Mad Men Season 5 premiere: Zubi Zubi Zu and other spoilers

******This entire post is full of SPOILERS for last night’s season premiere of Mad Men.

After an epic 16-month haitus, Mad Men returned last night with a two-hour premiere. I was literally counting down the minutes, so you can imagine how happy I am to simply see my Mad Men people, regardless of story. At one point, I was trying to figure out when the season began – yes, it’s Memorial Day weekend, but what year is it? It’s 1966, right? Right. So… the story has skipped along to about a year from when we last saw these people.

What’s happened to them? Don Draper has married his secretary, Megan, and made her a junior copywriter – Peggy is her boss, right? Because Peggy is pretty much Don’s second in command. It doesn’t seem like Megan is an amazing copywriter or anything, but she’s also not actively bad, and it seems like Megan and Peggy are trying to be friends with each other. As for Don and Megan’s marriage – you get several wildly different impressions of the marriage throughout the two-hour premiere. At first, I was like, “Aw, that’s nice – Megan is a great step-mom to Don’s kids, that why he married her.” Then it was, “Ew, they come to work together every day and Don seems really different now and Megan’s not that awesome at her job.” And then after the party, I thought, “Oh, great. He married another woman who is absolutely clueless about what embarrasses him and what he thinks is appropriate.” And finally, in that last sex scene… g-ddamn. Megan KNOWS him. She knows what makes him tick. Don and Megan understand each other in a different way than we’re used to. After that sex scene, I kind of love Megan. Oh, and Don has told her everything, did you notice? She didn’t even blink when she said “Dick Whitman.”

As for the other characters… Roger is still being an a–hole, but Roger gets some of the best lines, right? He’s out of sorts, he’s trying to steal Pete Campbell’s leads, and it’s like… Roger doesn’t know how to do any of this. Oh, and he hates his wife. And she hates him a little bit too. As for Pete… did they put some kind of pillow on his body? In some scenes, he was looking fluffy. Pete and Trudy both looked middle-aged – and they’re not! They’re barely 30 years old, right? I also love that Pete’s storyline was “He misses living in the city.” He hates the suburbs. He loves the noise of the city, and he misses it terribly. He and Don Draper have traded lives in four seasons. Pete’s house even looks like Don and Betty’s old house.

But my absolute favorite part of the premiere was Joan, Joan, Joan. This is 1966 – before “maternity leave.” You find out that Joan did have Roger’s baby (a little boy named Kevin), and that she “promised” to come back to Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce after she had the baby. It was nice seeing Joan with the baby, it was great to finally see her mom (who is a piece of work, just like Joanie), but the best part was when Joan brought the baby to work for a visit, and to make sure she still had a job to come back to. I absolutely LOVED her scene with Lane Pryce. It was magic! Lane is such an odd creature, but he said absolutely everything Joan wanted to hear, and he showed her a kindness and gentleness that I was not expecting from him. He made her feel… needed, but in a professional sense. And he even made a fuss over the baby, which was cute. Did you notice that all of the men in particular made a fuss over the baby? Don, Lane and… Roger. Was this the first time Roger saw his son? Is Roger helping Joan pay the bills? So many questions.

There’s a lot of other stuff to talk about, but I don’t want to go on and on. Peggy is still with her journalist boyfriend. VietNam is heating up. The civil rights movement is upon New York. Megan singing and dancing was… interesting. I was embarrassed for her, that she put herself out there like that. It also reminded me as to just how young she is… but she’s going to stick with it, I think. I’m not sure how I feel about the tone of 1966 – only Megan and Peggy feel like the “young people” in the office, everybody else seems prematurely aged, and like they’ve skipped past the summer of love and have just resigned themselves to 1970s ennui. Like, half of the characters are still living in a John O’Hara novel and have of them are living in a Rick Moody novel.

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  1. Katie says:

    Why didn’t we see any Betty? That was my only disappointment!

    • zoey says:

      apparently its bcos jj was on maternity leave having xander last august. they said they filmed around her schedule so she is expected back as s5 progresses

  2. Michelle says:

    The Don and Megan sex scene made me uncomfortable because Megan is doing exactly what Don needs but how unhealthy is that? He is damaged goods and she is young and okay with it but I wonder how long it will last. Roger Sterling is the sh!t. He delivers a line perfectly although it was Jane with her “why don’t you look like him?” that wins the night!

    • kbomb says:

      Jane’s line was my favourite line of the show. My favourite PART of the show though was watching Roger make fun of Megan. He is the bomb.

  3. deb says:

    Hey glad I’m not the only one that thought Pete bought the Draper’s old house. Loved the scene with Joan and Lane, unexpectedly sweet. I don’t know what to think about Meagan yet, but I’m just happy as hell to have my favorite rogues Don & Roger back again.

    • Anonny says:

      Megan’s teeth really, really bug me. I can’t take my eyes off of them.

      • Fallon says:

        You’re not the only person who feels that way!

      • lucy2 says:

        Me too. It’s distracting, and she’s very pretty otherwise, but my eyes go right there.

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        She used to be on Canadian programs pretty frequently. She was thin then, but nothing compared to now. The teeth weren’t as prominent then. Anyone who has tooth hangups get my empathy, seeing as how I spent the last month and a half getting seven dental surgeries to fix the swamp that lithium made of my mouth. My teeth look great but they taste expensive.

      • Gobi says:

        Her teeth take away from her looks. It’s hard to believe that an actress, especially one who is very attractive, would not have veneers. I look at her and only see spaces.

  4. Jade says:

    Loved loved loved mad men premiere. It had everything in this episode that makes Mad Men so amazing. Can’t wait for the rest of the season.

  5. lucy2 says:

    My first thought was “wow, Don told Megan everything!” and my second thought was “wow, that’s going to come back to bite him when he eventually screws it all up and the marriage falls apart”.
    Roger and his wife crack me up, their mutual hatred is just so out in the open.
    I too enjoyed the Joan/Lane scene.
    Of course Pete comes in when Peggy is reluctantly holding the baby!
    They really captured the modern shift in styling, the set and wardrobe people do a great job.

    • zoey says:

      i am glad i am not the only one to notice that pete comes in when peggy is holding the baby, she’s uncomfortable and tries to give it to him and he reluctantly takes it and leaves. i was also thinking that pete and don switched roles!
      loved the joan scenes they were awesome.
      i think i am the only who dislikes megan with don. like someone else said he is damaged goods, and for a long time i had hoped he and betty worked their stuff out together as they have so much history. but i think they’re too damaged. which is why i thought don and the therapist lady from last season showed so much potential

      i really dislike the stereotype of megan / secretary with don, and that he has made her a copywriter. she is there becos he’s given her a job, not bcos she is good and not bcos the company can afford another employee. she hasn’t earned her dues like other women in the office like peggy or joan.

      • amy says:

        i absolutely hate megan as a character and i hate don with her. when she walked onto the balcony to sulk after don got mad at her for throwing the party, i wanted her to jump off just to get her miserable character’s plot line over with.

      • maemay says:

        I HATE MEG ALSO!! KARDASHIAN HATE!!

      • Franny says:

        first of all, the expression is “paying your dues” not “earning your dues”

        second of all, Megan “paid her dues” just as much as Peggy did. They were both secretaries who had the oppurtunity to move up. Yes, it helped that Megan married her boss, but she started off at the same position as Peggy.

      • zoey says:

        english is not my first language. so I’ve noted the distinction that you’ve pointed out – but why don’t we instead focus on the content of my post, rather than my language limitations Franny, which seems to make up 1 of 2 of your points.

        My point is, Peggy used her brains, ambitions and hard work and earned respect in the workplace and rose through the ranks. Megan on the other hand used her sexuality to sleep with the boss, marry him and have a title handed to her. By paying dues, I mean the use of sexuality.

      • Boo says:

        I was hoping she’d go off the balcony, too! And that stupid Zubi zubi zu song has been stuck in my head all day! :O(

      • Lurker says:

        I absolutely agree with this. There is something about the Megan character that I just cannot stand. Maybe it is because she plays into stereotypes of women and I agree that she got handed her copywriters job while Peggy had to claw her way up. I am hoping the writers of the show penned her this way on purpose, knowing some viewers would not look favorably on her and that there is a breakup on the way for her and Don. I also thought Don and the blonde psychologist lady made a better couple. Like the other poster, Boo, I too have the Zubezu song stuck in my mind, lol. Other than that, the premiere was really good. I too liked the Lane and Joan scenes and the comment by Jane that others have mentioned.

    • maureen says:

      I hate Megan too! Please make her go away! When she sang that song , and Don put up with it, it reminded me of when Roger came on to Betty and Don got angry with her. or when Betty came down to the kitchen in a bikini and a swim suit cover up and Don said she looked ridiculous. He treated his wife like dirt, and smiles as this little bimbo makes an ass of him! END IT NOW!!!

  6. Tiffany27 says:

    My favorite line of the night,
    Roger’s wife: “What time is it?”
    Roger: “Oh shut up”
    I love that it has become pure hatred so quickly lol. Wasn’t she his sidepiece in the beginning?
    Anyway I loved the premiere and I like Megan too, but I can’t see her and Don working.

    • zoey says:

      yea i didn’t know whether to laugh or be horrified with the exchange between roger and his wife

      • lil ole me says:

        I found it suprising about Roger & Jane also. Does he tire of his shiny new toys quickly- or is he pining for Joan? I’ll never understand why he didn’t leave his 1st wife for Joan, but he did for Jane. Men- so confusing..

  7. Franny says:

    I felt very strange watching this. I felt like I didn’t know any of the characters anymore. Even from the beginning with Sally and the way she talked, it felt so unnatural. Is the Francis residence a giant mansion/castle? I knew Henry had money, but not that much!

    Don seems off, and the whole “Don doesn’t do anything” throughout the storyline felt strange. There was no advertising in his plotline.

    I feel that Megan understands Don as a man, but Peggy understands him as a person. She was the one who told Megan that Don hates surprises. It’ll be interesting to see how the Megan/Peggy relationship plays out.

    The Pete Campbell storyline just made me sad. He seems so annoyed and pissy and over it all. There was no usual spunk to his mannerisms – it was all “f off, I’m mad about everything”. And who was that old guy on the train?

    I did enjoy the Joan/Kevin/Mom story line. Her mom is crazy for sure. Whats the backstory there? She’s divorced and a alcholic who hits on young latin plumbers?

    Well, in the end, I’m really excited for the season to be back, but the premier wasn’t all that I had hoped for. Hopefully the characters straight out to the point that I recognize them again.

    • mememe says:

      I really like your take on the episode. I had the same train of thought as it unfolded.

      I’m looking forward to the season but not sure what to make of it all so far.

    • Jane says:

      I agree that this first episode was a little bit of a let down, but I was so glad to have it back on the air maybe I expected too much.

      Peggy seems to know Don better than any one. She also commented on how he was different. One of the things she said that was different was he was kind and when asked if that was bad or good (I am paraphrasing here) she said she didn’t know yet. She definitely sees a change in him and is waiting to see what result that change brings about.

      • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

        I can’t help it. I know it’s an unpopular opinion but I have hated Joan since day and nothing since has abated my dislike of the character.

        When she started snivelling about how nobody visited her in the hospital, I thought that I was witnessing a colossal lack of self-awareness. Here is a character who in unable to do anything more with woman than put on her mannered lack of manners show. She treats all women as if they’re competitors and called her higher-up (Peggy) a bitch for reacting differently to that gross picture of her and Lane. Yeah, I’m going to take my personal time and spent my personal money on someone who called me a bitch. Grow up. And horrible as that picture was, she wished death on the louts who created it. They were so disgusting, but c’mon, how likely is it that anyone would say this? ‘Remember when that woman wished death on us? Let’s run, not walk to the maternity ward.’ Why she would even want them there is one thing, but if she’s surpried by her situation, she’s got rocks in the brain.

  8. truthful says:

    I was pleased w/the 2hr premiere, Roger tickles me, he says whatever he wants.

    not too crazy about Draper’s new wife, but she’ll do–I guess.

    Lane is hard but soft when you catch him off guard..

    love this show!

  9. Bad Fairy says:

    Thats what I love about this show. Don and Betty are my parents. They weren’t there for the Summer of Love either. Most people at that time weren’t. It was something that was happening, but the rest of the world was just trying to keep up with the changes without imploding. This show is amazing.

    • Carolyn says:

      Yep – not everyone was off enjoying the Summer of Love. My parents weren’t either – they were indeed working, raising kids and getting by. People change, the characters have changed – they reflect what is happening at the time. I’m in the minority -I can’t stand Roger but the show needs him as a character.

    • ZenB!tch says:

      Same here – I see my parents except they were more Don and Peggy than Betty. At first I thought it was “ancient times” 1960 but the show is getting closer to when I was born and it’s very interesting to watch. I hope they do the entire decade.

  10. ang364 says:

    I noticed early in the episode in the Y&R office window a “Goldwater ’68” sign, so is it really ’66? Or is it later?

    BTWs–summer of love is 1969, so we can only hope they get to that!

    Loved not only the role reversal with Pete & Don but also that Roger & Don both married their secrectaries–so cliche! Except that Don’s wife continued to work there.

    • maemay says:

      I think they are campaigning for 68.

    • Happy21 says:

      The Summer of Love was actually 1967. I thought it was 1969 as well until recenly but it was in fact 1967.

      🙂

      • anon33 says:

        It’s one of those things. Woodstock was in ’69 so it makes sense to think that was the “summer of love.” By the time Woodstock actually happened though, the summer of love stuff was starting to go wrong (ie Manson.)

      • ZenB!tch says:

        It was 67, I got the 20th Anniversary shirt when I was 18 from the Haight-Ashbury district.

        69 was when whatever they were doing ended. Manson and the Rolling Stones concert at Altamont. It’s all California history so growing up here I know a lot about it.

        The actual movement started around 1965 with the Buffalo Springfield and the Doors in LA and the Jefferson Airplane and the Dead in SF.

    • wunder says:

      Summer of Love is definitely ’67.

      My folks still have their ‘relics’-tye dye and love beads-from that very famous year!

  11. maemay says:

    Ugh, even when I don’t like Mad Men I love it.

    I mostly cringed…I HATE MEGAN! yep I said it. Stop whining! You go to work at 11 and then get upset when noone respects you UGH!! worse than that hippie teacher!

    More Joan and Peggy PLEASE!! less zubi zubi UGH!

    • zoey says:

      exactly.
      peggy had to earn her dues and get the copywriter job.
      megan had it handed to her. she leaves early with the boss while others work all evening/ weekend and then wonders why they dont respect her

      • maemay says:

        I know, I fear the writers want us to pity ZUBI ZOU, but I don’t. Peggy should not have apologized she was right and I hate her cowering to Don when in the past she felt free to tell him which end was up!

    • zoey says:

      But the fact that Peggy apologized just makes her that much more relatable I feel. Women in the workplace, no matter how good they are, are often anxious that if sth dosn’t go well, its due to some fault of theirs. I.e. they personalize the issue – no matter how unrelated it is to them. I really felt thats what happened with Peggy.

  12. Marina says:

    zubi zubi zu? I thought she was singing “bisous bisous bisous”.

    • Tiffany27 says:

      The song is called “Zu Bisou Bisou”. I think.

      • Kaiser says:

        Thanks, I didn’t know how to spell whatever it was. It’s also a reference to how Roger & the dudes were making fun of her.

      • HoustonGrl says:

        Bisou is french for “kiss” (pronounced bi-zoo). So Megan was basically saying kiss over and over 🙂

      • Parisienne says:

        I think that, too, but it had for me a satirical twist as “zubi” means teeth in many slavic languages and well, Megan and teeth … 😀

    • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

      Like the greeting. Double cheek kiss, double ‘bisou’.

    • Scooter Debouter says:

      I loved Megan’s performance of ‘Zu Bisou’. As far as her marrying Don, I can’t imagine that paranoid Don (with good reason) ever marrying a secretary in his firm much less revealing his deepest secret.

      Pete Campbell is developing as you would expect a sneaky little worm like him might given some success. I can imagine him twenty years from now a nasty and thoroughly obnoxious tyrant making everyone’s life miserable.

      Joan, Lane and Peggy have all changed and it will be interesting to see how their characters develop. Roger is still Roger and I hope he doesn’t change.

      Overall, the premier was disappointing and the story lines seemed confused and lacking the tight integration of earlier seasons. There had been a synergy between the characters that is missing in this new episode. Nobody seems to be connected.

    • maureen says:

      That song was so horrible! It haunts me still. I may never recover from it! EECCCHH!!!!

  13. BW says:

    I want the dress Megan was wearing at the party. I promise to wear it every day until I die.

    Also, John Slatterly must love this job. They give him all the best lines.

    I wasn’t wild about seeing a giant asshole and balls in my face being smeared with diaper rash cream, but I did laugh. The poor kid will never live that one down. (Interviewer: “And what’s the first thing you did on TV?”)

    Also, would a real woman who’s just given birth be able to flop down face first on a bed? I would think her breasts would be tender and leaking milk.

  14. Jackie says:

    i LOVE megan. she is a great addition. she is sexy and interesting.

    LOVE the sex scene with her and don. they are perfect for each other…for now.

    also, really like the direction they are taking with harry. he is going to be a swinger!

  15. HadleyB says:

    I don’t like Megan with Don either. She seems a totally different person/character than last season. wtf?

    I get it Don needs someone more like him, not a meek willing wife but Megan wasn’t like this at all last season, so we are suppose to buy this crap they are selling about her now?

    But I love Mad Man, Roger’s lines, Don and I still despise Pete. I wish something tragic would happen to him and his wife, they are boring useless characters …

  16. Lizzie says:

    I wish Joan hadn’t had the baby. It’s tying her down! And she doesn’t seem too crazy about it either.
    But a interesting plot point i guess.

    • ZenB!tch says:

      Joan as a mom made me pause for a minute and thank God that I was born 3 years after Kevin and have so many more options than my mom did.

      Some of us are born with out the maternal gene – Joan is one of us. She will not be happy as a mom unless Roger finally makes an honest woman out of her. I can see them lasting. I don’t like Joan but I understand Joan.

  17. HoustonGrl says:

    OMG my overpowering love for Mad Men was reignited last night!!

    #1 LOVED the scene with Lane and Joan. It was so touching and perfectly executed.

    #2 Staten Island, hahahaha

    #3 Why don’t you sing like that…Why don’t you look like him?

    Favorites aside…I had one beef. I did not understand the scene with Megan and Don (you know, where she strips down to her black underthings and bends over to clean and that’s somehow supposed to be a giant F*ck you to Don)??

    • G says:

      No I think it’s her ability crack through his angry wall and make him feel vulnerable.

      When they have a conflict she doesn’t withhold sex like Betty, she provokes to keep the juices flowing.

    • Jackie says:

      a woman on all fours cleaning, while wearing black lingerie, can be very hot. especially when she refuses him, tells him he is old, etc. don likes his light s&m.

    • Nakli says:

      Me too! Loved the scene with Lane and Joan. My best line was when Lane said to Joan, “I saw his soul leave his body” referring to Don’s reaction to Megan’s dance, which I loved. I felt embarrassed for Don but I also loved how uninhibited Megan is. Her lack of self-consciousness is in complete contrast to Don’s extremely private self. I missed Betty, however. The episode felt incomplete without her.

      • MaiGirl says:

        I KNOW!!! I just about cried I laughed so hard. What a great turn of phrase from our man Lane. Such a complex character!

  18. G says:

    I love Megan! (Didn’t get her last season.) I love Don’s exposed discomfort at how freely and unashamedly Megan loves him and sees the two of them relating in society compared to Betty’s bitchy reserve.

    Am I the only one who things that Peggy’s beans will be singing Zu Bisou Bisou next week? Possibly launching Megan into a whole new career?

  19. Diane says:

    Well, Meagan was sure right when she made the remark that none of them smile, they smirk! I loved that!

    • maemay says:

      But I like that smirk, are the writers trying to get us to like megan and hate the regulars? I watch MadMen for that smirk, if I wanted a smile I would watch Barney. I just to buy sunshine and S&M Megan.

      • Diane says:

        That’s what makes this such a great show. Everyone sees something different.
        I lol’d at your Barney comment!

  20. Franny says:

    also, is no one allowed to have a happy marriage? every single one is portrayed as miserable.

    • ZenB!tch says:

      Based on my parents and my friends parents marriages in the 60s were miserable. Times were changing women were changing, the wanted to work, men were not amused. I’m shocked Don let Megan work. I was impressed actually, almost proud.

  21. kazoo says:

    I am confused about Roger and the baby. I mean, he has to know it’s his, right? But the way he acted when Joan was at the office, it didn’t seem like it. Weird.

    I think Megan is going to turn out to be crazy. I can’t wait until she spends some time with Betty.

    • Jane says:

      The flashbacks from the last season showed Joan telling Roger the baby couldn’t be her husband’s, so he knows. I don’t think Joan would have him on silver platter if he was available. She knows him too well.

    • Lurker says:

      Oh, I like that possible storyline, kazoo. The first thing I thought when Megan stripped down and started cleaning and spewing insults at Don was that she seemed mentally ill. I hope the writers go this way. I wonder what Don would do with a wife in a mental institution.

      • G says:

        Oh, I don’t think that she’s crazy at all. Megan is the generational zietgiest that’s going to sweep across the early 60’s landscape of the show.

        Expressive, carefree, experimental, sexually free, socially and racially pluralistic. A game changer.

      • Jackie says:

        @G – totally agree about megan.

    • Katie says:

      I was confused about that too. I thought as far as roger knew Joan had an abortion. I thought it was weird that it was never addressed.

  22. Ann says:

    It was funny how pretty much every married woman is miserable on Mad Men. Ain’t that the truth!

  23. MBGB says:

    What’s up with Lane?

    I gather he’s broke, because he’s told the wife not to write any checks and she’s asking for cash to buy groceries. Is he embezzling from the firm? Is that why things are so tight?

    Clearly the wife doesn’t know since she’s asked for Megan’s realtor and decorator.

    And what about that phone sex thing with the wallet owner’s “girl”. Is it the owner’s GF or daughter?

    Is Lane a closet kinky guy?

    • Franny says:

      I think so, for sure. He has to keep up his prim and proper thing (which, if you noticed, everyone keeps commenting on and how he is such a stand up guy) but he’s secretly kinky.

      I wonder what happen with his chocolate bunny since it seems that he is back together with his wife.

    • ZenB!tch says:

      I thought he was miserable – money not being able to confide in Rebecca, etc. and this girl was just talking not wanting anything.

  24. Happy21 says:

    Ok here goes!

    I started the first 30 minutes or so confused about what had happened. It felt different but I don’t know why.

    Loved the Joan story and her part with Lane. That was touching and sweet.

    I do not like Megan. She seems immature and childish. I have a feeling that she is going to make work very difficult soon. I think the whole “they don’t like me and I don’t know if I like them” part when her and Don were lying there. I have a feeling she is going to be pitting Don’s love for her and him wanting her to be happy at work against the others at SCDP. I think that somehow someway her and Peggy are not going to end up friend even though we were having that feeling at the very beginning of the show.

    I missed Betty and Henry.

    And wow, is entitlement ever back when it comes to Pete Campbell! I agree that they seem to have aged 10 years. Something has to happen there!

    I am hoping more for the next episode.

    They released Zhu bisou bisou on itunes last night at midnight! Will people really buy it? Hilarious!

  25. apsutter says:

    I loved it!! Surprisingly, this episode actually made me like Megan. I was psyched to see little Sally again and all 4 plots were quite good. I loved it when Joan went back to the office in her beautiful pink dress. The scene between her and Lane was so sweet and I can’t wait for her to be back in the office for good.

    • lucy says:

      It made me like her and feel a bit sorry for her too. ALthough, I do think that Don is crazy about her and actually WANTS to be with her vs Betty when it was more of a chore. But it’s much easier when you’re only a part time dad….unless she’s pregnant :-0

  26. lucy says:

    I loved it when Jane said about Pete (at the party): “Is he going bald???” lol!

    She must be picking up some zinger lessons from Roger…love it.

    • ZenB!tch says:

      Me too. I’m glad she is getting some of Roger’s lines. I’ve hated Pete since Season 1. I’m also hoping Jane will lead to a storyline about crazy old coots and their trophy wives.

  27. CooCoo Catchoo says:

    All of the men in the office seemed genuinely pleased to see Joan – Don & Lane especially. I don’t think Lane is cooking the books – if he were he wouldn’t be as keen about Joan coming back to help with the accounting. Maybe I’m wrong, and she’ll notice discrepancies when she’s back.
    Did anyone see a spark between Lane & Joan? I kinda thought they were leaning in for a kiss. They’re both lonely.

    • Happy21 says:

      I heard rumors as we were gearing up for the return of a possible Joan/Lane affair. Maybe they were more than rumors. I, for one, just dismissed them “as if!” but am now wondering. I felt a little bit of a tingle there between the two of them…

  28. Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

    Pete said something about being 26 in the first season.

  29. b626 says:

    Even though Betty couldn’t make it I was dissapointed by the lack of Sally. That girl really nails the part looking forward to lots of her next episode.

    • roborant says:

      Sally has been a real scene stealer on Mad Men. I agree we need more of her– Kiernan Shipka is already such an accomplished young actress.

  30. wunder says:

    In the car scene with his kids, Don says he’s “going to be 40”.

    Damn, but Don IS prematurely aged on this show!!! 40??? REALLY, Don????
    (only if you’re a ‘Real Housewife’!)

  31. wunder says:

    Roger is a Baby Daddy now.

    My god, he is such a jerk but WHY WHY WHY do I LOVE him??? (I’m sure Joan asks herself the same thing)
    Somehow, Roger manages to be irresistable. How does he do THAT???

    The Don-Megan hookup feels gross.

  32. Poofba! says:

    I watched and I enjoyed seeing all the characters in play. I think Peggy and Don will end up in a relationship. Peggy has feelings that go much deeper than just friendship here. Don’s marriage to Megan will blow up but unlike Betty I predict she will reveal his secret for revenge. I predict Roger will finally realize Joan’s little one seems a little too familiar when the baby asks him for a light! lol… How can all of these illegitimate babies be kept under wraps for so long? You ever wonder who is taking care and raising Peggy’s little boy? Is it every going to resurface that this is Pete’s little one. They have painted Pete as the mid-life crisis guy riding on the train listening to a man old enough to be his Dad and suddenly he’s a malcontent about all aspects of his life? Come on writers…..He’s a much more interesting character than that. I really like Layne and his character, I hope he plays a much larger part this season and has a romance that blossoms into a real love story. That would be cool.

  33. jc126 says:

    I have no use for Megan, and no one in that day and age would be named Megan, especially a French Canadian. Good grief. Don revealing the truth to her will bite him in the ass.
    I was thinking that just like Betty, Megan shows signs of wanting some attention or having a career of her own (Betty with modeling, Megan with singing.) Maybe. And perhaps this will be a form of conflict.
    Roger is dangerously unstable. I think he’s going to die, or kill someone by accident when drunk.
    I could’ve done without the close-up shot of Joan’s baby’s rear end, too.

  34. The OG Sasha says:

    It’s Zou Bisou Bisou not Zubi Zubi Zu — it translates to “Zou Kiss Kiss”

  35. Suzette says:

    Funny comment about the teeth. Back in the 60’s women weren’t getting the work done to change their looks as much as today. There were some models with the gap in the front teeth, such as Lauren Hutton. I think Megan is gorgeous. Love the teeth. And the playful self-confidence.

  36. Zelda says:

    Beautiful as she is, the did a good job of making Joan look very out-of-date when she visited the office, compared to all the younger, mod women.

    Nice touch. I think it’s definitely where the season is headed.

  37. Marie Antoinette Jr. says:

    I about spit out my martini when Peggy was chatting with one of the copy writers–I forget his name–and he stood up, in false gastrointestinal distress and said, “excuse me but I have a ticket to the bean ballet and the curtain is about to go up.” Then ran out of the room toward the bathroom.
    So Funny!!!

  38. NeoCleo says:

    Zubi, zubi, shmooo. Damn that was about as stupid as it gets. I was so embarassed by it’s self-aware cutesy crapness that I turned it off when I heard it on the radio! EEEEWWWW.

    • maureen says:

      OMG! I totally agree! It was horrible, but I couldn’t look away! Like road-kill!

  39. Kiyoshigirl says:

    There’s more to Pete than meets the eye.

  40. Helen says:

    It’s fitting that my comment is the 40th one. I loved everything about the season 5 opener of Madmen! Perhaps Joan’s husband doesn’t come back from Vietnam. Either he gets killed or is declared missing in action. And then Joan and Roger get back together.

    Does anyone know the name of the song that was playing at the end of the episode?

  41. Elizabeth Beck says:

    I am late to the Mad Men game. But, I watched 4 seasons in one month. And then I watched season 5 opener and I almost want to stop. That’s how much I hate Megan. She slept her way to the top and is utterly clueless as to how her rise impacts the team. Plus, she isn’t nearly as pretty a Rachel or Betty. I really can’t stand her.