Huffpo is reporting on this tweet by Chris Brown’s mother, @mombreezy, which points us to a website called “CB Breeds” featuring Chris Brown holding up an adorable pure bred pit bull puppy and looking pouty. Several four month-old pit bull puppies with papers are featured on the website at a cost of $1,000 a piece. (Which sounded steep to me, but is actually on par with what other breeders are charging. The one big fail on that website is that they don’t mention where the dogs are actually located.) It’s probably a venture by Chris’ mom that her son is lending his celebrity to, and it’s not a terrible idea for his image, as Huffpo points out. Everyone looks softer with an adorable puppy, don’t they? This may backfire on him though. Here’s more:
In surprising celebrity business ventures news, it appears Chris Brown is putting his assets into a little bit of adorableness.
The entertainer’s mother, Joyce Hawkins, tweeted an announcement of the new business on Sunday night, along with a link to the new “CB Breeds” web site:
On the site, Brown is seen posing with a puppy above a list of named, adoptable pets, all of which are priced at “$1,000 each.”
If this is some sort of ploy to get us to associate Chris Brown with cute puppies, we’re just not going to fall for … — oh gawwwwd look at ‘Freedom’s’ little wrinkles!
[From Huffington Post]
This is spurring a whole debate in the comments on HuffPo about the issue of buying from a breeder vs. adopting rescue dogs that need homes. I think as long as you don’t support puppy mills, it’s a personal choice, but many animal advocates are outraged. Here’s a sample of the negative comments on Huffpo:
Yes, the puppies are adorable …. so are the thousands upon thousands of similar “Wrinkly” puppies in the Shelters that are desperately waiting for new homes or facing death!! – JCNash1
I volunteer as an animal rescuer for a local no-kill shelter in my city and this incenses me beyond belief. I have seen the effects of animal over-population, cruelty, neglect and abuse; things done to animals that would make the strongest soul weep. Anyone who breeds MORE animals in an over-burgeoning world of homeless cats and dogs is useless, greedy and ignorant. – boppills
Anyone with a lick of sense knows better than to buy a dog from a breeder. There are too many animals already without homes. I think that this will hurt his image, especially with educated animal lovers – cracker88
[From comments on Huffpo]
I’m not a dog owner due to my living situation, but this is tugging at my heartstrings a little bit. We went to a dog event over the weekend with my parents’ rescue dog and there were so many sweet puppies there without homes. I was actually grateful when this pug I had my eye on wouldn’t come to me.
Pit bulls have a reputation as aggressive dogs, but that’s often due to improper training and owner neglect. There are countless pit bulls in need of homes, and if you’d like to adopt one The Pit Bull Rescue Center is a good place to start. I was reading some of the dogs’ stories on that site and found them very touching. I’ve always had a soft spot for pit bulls though. They have such attractive, expressive faces.
So will this do damage to Chris’ already well-deserved bad reputation? He does that well enough himself in his spare time on Twitter. His Instagram handle is “f*ckyopictures,” no asterisk, and he recently tweeted a photo of his pants on the ground with the title “taking a sh*t before the show.”
Here’s Chris performing on 4-15-12 in Australia. You may think I used only the bad photos of him, but he pretty much looks like this in all of them. Credit: WENN.com
Once a piece of shit always a piece of shit! Why is he selling pit bulls? So they can fight, I bet he needs the money! He is f’ing DISGUSTING!!!!!!
+1
Pit bulls are not appropriate for people without knowledge of dogs. He’s so dumb to campaign for that.
Those last pictures are scary.
I have 2 dogs. My dachshund was just from a family who happened to have some puppies. My dachshund/bassethound/lab mix is from the humane society though. They are my favorite beings in the world. It breaks my heart for all the puppies I can’t adopt.
What an imbecile. Not to mention, if you want a pit bull, go to any shelter you can think of and find a ton of them.
Poor dogs. Although I don’t agree that “it’s all in how you train them and treat them”. They are terriers, and every terrier can be a bit bratty, even if 99% of the time they are fine. I know tons of pits, own a dog who’s part terrier, and have been a dog owner for decades who has seen many pit bulls go off and attack, seemingly out of the blue, at assorted parks. There IS some genetic legacy of aggression in many/most of these dogs. I wouldn’t trust one 100%, though I know plenty of nice pits.
“There IS some genetic legacy of aggression in many/most of these dogs..”
Link, please.
And you are right. It is not in how you train/treat them. If that was true, the many pits that spent the majority of their lives trained to fight (take Michael Vick’s dogs, for example) would not be living happy, healthy lives in nice families now.
Ignorance can be fixed if you try.
You think I’m going to respond to someone who calls me ignorant? GMAB.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/peninsula/2011/08/fatal-pacifica-dog-attack-dredges-questions-over-pit-bulls
there have been quite a few fatal pitbull maulings in the bay area over the years. most of which happened where the family pet mauled it’s owner, or a child of the family inside the home. everyone knows pitbulls have aggressive tendencies. so do other breeds. pit owners get so defensive…until their dog eats their cat or mauls someone. I think some pit owners geniunely love their pits and then I think some pit owners use the dogs as status symbols, to intimidate. I’m personally not a fan of the breed, I have witnessed too many scary aggressive pits and I can’t put my finger on it, but most (not all) pits I’ve encountered unnerve me a bit, especially the way they can stare a human in the eye. I don’t know. just me though. Of all the breeds for CB to breed, he chooses pit bulls? Not exactly a family friendly dog like a golden retriever or a lab. Big Shocker. The pounds around here are full of abandoned pits and chihuahuas. That says something about those breeds. He’s so trashy.
A guy in Sydney has been charged because his pitbull went into someones house, grabbed a four year old girl by the face and mauled her to death.
Pitbulls (whether or not its genetics) can be a very vicious breed and should only be handled by experienced owners. Not asswipes like Chris Brown who use the ‘vicious’ dog as a status symbol to show how badass he is.
anon pit bulls are huge family dogs. They have a bad reputation and it is also based on the owners and training.
http://www.dontbullymybreed.org/
Where there is smoke there is fire..meaning there are too many instances where pits have turned on family members, or even strangers. To defend animals who attack children I find a little appalling. Dogs who are prone to aggression to that degree should be banned in the community…they were in our last community. EVEN if its the owners fault…which in many cases it is and I completely agree with that testament it should not be a defense against what pit bulls are capable of doing. Sometimes you have to protect people from themselves and that means making smart choices on what type of animals should be allowed in your community.
@melanie – there are loads of dog bite reports from small breeds and yet they don’t get the reputation of being aggressive or vicious. I understand that there’s a big difference in the actual effect of a bite from a large breed vs a toy (though there was a postal worker who was killed by a chihuahua a few years back) but disregarding the issues with small breed b/c they’re not big ol pit bulls and demonizing a breed is not the answer. People need to be responsible pet owners regardless of the size or breed of the dog; in the absence of that responsibility any dog can do damage.
My husband and I used to foster pittbull puppies when we were living in Boston. The breed is so over-breeded in many metropolitan areas. With that being said, we used to foster them until they were adopted. They are a naturally aggressive breed until they get fixed (both male or female) but they were 1) both bred to be aggressive; and 2) are the sweetest big dogs ever looking for approval from humans (whether aggressive approval or not.) I think it’s disgusting that he is breeding them when they need homes like crazy, puppies and all.
Please educate yourself before making claims about pits/terriers and genetics. Anyone that follows BSL knows that many of these falsehoods, e.g. aggression, lockjaw, bite compression, etc. have been scientifically disproved. Like other terriers breeds, pits can show signs of inter-animal aggression, but so can any dog if not trained properly. Try walking by my neighbor’s house, their Bichon Frise is the most vicious dog on the block. It saddens me when I see people continually spread these falsehoods to support BSL – and tons of good dogs continue to die on death row.
So they don’t have aggression in their genetics, but as terriers they can be aggressive with other dogs? That would indicate aggression in their genes. I didn’t say anything about lockjaws or another myth, so don’t conflate what I said.
I have a dog who’s part terrier (who btw adores friendly pit bulls and seems to seek them out a lot at the park) and regularly take care of another terrier. I know TONS of other terriers and terrier owners. I know *terriers*. Because of that, I wouldn’t trust a pit not to snap and attack another dog. I have seen it more times than you would find believable.
That Bichon may be vicious, but he won’t do as much damage as a vicious pit or a vicious GSD.
I don’t believe in stereotypes but what could possibly explain why Pitbulls are known to be responsible for the mauling DEATHS of humans? You can’t really deny this breed hasn’t killed several human beings over the past few years. It is what it is. There are obviously some bad pits out there if they’re killing humans. Maybe if jerks like CB and Michael Vick and drug dealers who use the dogs as protection, not pets, didn’t get to raise and breed these dogs, they wouldn’t be so violent? Don’t know. I know several cities regulates pit bulls. It’s clearly for a reason. Just saying!
But it is ignorance – they have a tendency for aggression towards other animals – not people. They do not inherently attack people. They do have a high prey drive. But so do a ton of other dogs.
Dogs that attack people usually have never been socialized. Again, any dog can do that.
socialization makes all the difference which is why you absolutely need to socialize bull terriers and bull dogs as early and as often as possible and you need to continue socializing them frequently on an ongoing basis.
Ok people, it is pretty obvious that genetics have a role in the level of aggression of certain dogs. It is not a singular problem of Pit Bull Terrier dogs but many others. Mainly it is a problem of pure-bred dogs. It is very easy to understand. There is a lot of problems coming from pure-bred dogs: behavior problems, health problems, and so on. Why? Because most of the times, to get pure-bred you are breding from other dogs that are their relatives. So, we all know that when human relatives have children together the probability of having children with cognitive and health problems rises drastically. That is genetics and that is the same thing that happens with pure-bred, and obviously certain kind of dogs will have bigger predominance of certain issues.
Apart from that, education is also very important for any dog, but certain dogs will need more education than others.
http://www.journals.elsevierhealth.com/periodicals/applan/article/0168-1591(86)90042-0/abstract
He is a disgusting creature. I feel bad for any dog that has to be around him, they deserve better.
I always think rescue/adoption is the best way to go, but I understand some people want or need a specific breed – in that case I hope they buy responsibly. And in no way does any company associated with that turd sound responsible.
I agree with you CB i think its a personal choice, and I dont think you are a bad person for choosing to buy rather than adpot.
This is like PETA saying everyone who eats chicken is bad. as long as its not a puppy mill and you can afford it ( i dont see y not)
Leave people alone. Let them buy from a breeder or adopt. Go adopt a dog if youwant to. I have one from a breeder, one adopted, a cat adopted. But it’s nobody’s business if I wanted both from a breeder. But I have such an aversion to pitbulls. I would never own one ever.
Let’s discuss the fact he’s advertising the pups as fighting dogs shall we?
4 generation performance pedigree?
No mention of performance titles, just performance pedigree.
Pouty face and cute names be damned, he’s advertising these poor pups as fighting prospects
Of course. It’s sickening and heartbreaking.
I used to think people were a teensy bit too hard on CB, when they give other alleged abusers a pass, but this solidifies in my mind that he is in general a bad guy.
Hmmm. He MAY be referring to a UKC Performance Pedigree (breeding and relatives championship record) but parents aren’t listed which is suspect.
It may be an ad by uninformed idiots but I’m still suspiscious as all get out
I completely agree with you. The aspect of this whole thing that I immediately saw as suspicious was that ‘Performance Pedigree’ claim.
Other breeders who reference such a thing with ‘Dog Shows’ in mind practically JUMP at the chance to talk about lineage by Parent’s names, + what/where awards were won, because it increases the pup’s value so much to potential buyers.
He’s making it sound very much like the parent’s/lineage of these pups were fighters he personally watched win fights. =\
He’s a douche!
Breeders are horrible, irresponsible, oblivious people who should have to volunteer at animal shelters to balance out their stupidity.
I volunteer at an animal shelter on the weekends and it’s HEARTBREAKING. Animals are tossed out and treated worse than garbage. You can adopt a pit puppy for next to nothing. And this asshole’s charging $1000? GREEDY.
Totally agree. These people have some nerve.
Good on you for volunteering though! 🙂
“Breeders are horrible, irresponsible, oblivious people who should have to volunteer at animal shelters to balance out their stupidity.”
Actually, this is a horrible, irresponsible and oblivious–not to mention STUPID–thing to say. Do you know every animal breeder in the world?? I usually don’t rant online, but you really pissed me off. So you work in a shelter–la di da, good for you. That doesn’t give you the right to insult breeders and lump them all in some ignorant box. My niece is a dog breeder, and she does it because she loves animals. She lives on several acres of land and owns several rescued cats, rescued dogs (including one pit bull & one pit mix), chickens, bunnies, and yes, she also breeds a couple litters of puppies a year. ALL her animals are amazingly well cared for, and she screens her purchasers like crazy. She also requires that all the pups she sells are spayed/neutered by their new owners. When I was a child we had one pure bred dog from a breeder, one rescue dog and one rescue cat (among various other pets like lovebirds, box turtles and snakes). We are simply a family that loves animals–no matter how they were born or where they came from. My niece is a kind and caring young woman and stay-at-home mom that has found a part-time career that supports her love of animals and helps support her family. She is a strong advocate against puppy mills, and as an owner of several rescue animals not only recognizes the plight of shelters she is well aware of people’s desire for both bred dogs and rescue animals. For example, many people with young children are wary of rescue dogs and prefer pups from breeders for their family. That is a personal choice that everyone is allowed to make. Should we tell everyone who chooses to give birth to their own children or use a surrogate instead of adopting an orphan that their stupid, oblivious and horrible people??
Well said. I felt the same way when I read that comment, but I didn’t have the energy to write what you did, so… co-sign 🙂
Both my dogs are rescue dogs and I have a 6 year old daughter and have had younger kids over – the dogs are great with them.
It is really sad and based on ignorance sadly that there is somehow something wrong with rescue dogs thus can’t be trusted around kids etc. Most are lost or given up because the owners lost their homes, don’t want the responsibility of a dog anymore, divorce, owners having major surgery etc etc.
The dogs who are put up for adoption are screened. I spend a lot of time in the county shelter and there are absolutely wonderful dogs there who are there at no fault of their own.
“Actually, this is a horrible, irresponsible and oblivious–not to mention STUPID–thing to say.”
Second.
I own a purebred Rottweiler, who we purchased from a reputable breeder. If we could not have afforded our quite expensive dog, then I would have had no issue going down to the local humane society and adopting.
Really, I am shocked that any animal lover would turn their nose up at dog simply because it’s a purebred or from a puppymill unless there were health or behavior concerns.
I think it is incredibly important to support REPUTABLE breeders as well as local animal shelters. A reputable breeder is not in the breeding business for money. They do it because they love the breed and think it is important to maintain standards by breeding healthy, well-behaved dogs. I would never support a breeder that didn’t 1. breed healthy puppies, and 2. that they raised didn’t in their home.
Bottom line: there is a vast difference between a puppymill and a reputable breeder.
I encourage anyone thinking about buying a purebred dog to do their research, starting with the AKC (American Kennel Club), and speaking folks in their breeder referral services. Breeding is a small world, and anyone who loves the breed you want will make sure you know who is a reputable breeder.
Also – and I can’t believe I am saying this – CB’s Mom may have raised a horrible son, but that doesn’t mean that she abuses or fights her dogs.
Well said!
We are getting our first dog this summer, from a reputable breeder in town. She has bred Rough Collies for over 25 years and you can see her love and devotion in her four-legged family members. We searched for two years before finding her. There’s nothing wrong with getting your pet from a responsible breeder or a shelter.
If you worked or volunteered at an animal shelter, you would understand. Idc how well intentioned your neice is, she is contributing to a huge pet overpopulation problem and every time a breeder has a litter, that takes homes from needy animals wasting away in “shelters”. Go to the south and walk around in a “shelter”. I guarantee it is an eye opener and will make you cry. Millions of dogs are put to sleep every year simply from lack of homes and you can’t see how breeding is irresponsible?
I don’t care where a person gets their dog; breeder, rescue, neighbour, side of the road. What I care about is that the person gets an animal who is a good match for them that they are prepared to train and care for.
Know the breed/type, know yourself and be realistic. If you are a novice with dogs, find a trainer first and get guidance on what to look for.
AMEN, sistah.
Also, know the commitment. This dog is yours for the rest of its LIFE, not til your new baby comes along, til you move to a new apartment, or til it has some housebreaking issues.
Exactly!
We have one dog we got from a breeder as a pup(now 6), 1 cat from rescue (now 16), 1 cat from a friend (14, i guess?) and an 11 yo dog we just adopted this winter. (Skinny, blind, 3 toes on one foot)
Both dogs are purebreds and testaments to good breeders. Both have amazing temperments and structure. The old guy is shockingly sound for his age obviously had good training at some point, which made keeping him an easy decision even though we didn’t really want a 2nd dog. (we were fostering)
We just moved almost halfway across Canada and they all came with us. They are stuck with us whether they like it or not. (although they are all pretty happy)
Not totally related, but I knew a woman who had a large dog (very friendly) for 10 years. Then she got a little puppy, held it up to the older dogs face and he bit the puppy. She said well they can’t live together so I’ll have to get rid of the dog THAT SHE’D HAD FOR A DECADE! Over the 8 week old puppy that could have easily been rehomed!
Just goes to show there are some people (even if they don’t abuse their pets) that do not deserve them!
Yes, buying from a breeder vs. rescuing is a personal choice. I will always rescue.
But, there are more pit bulls in shelters than ANY other breed. I think anyone who would actually buy a pit bull rather than rescue one is contributing to their suffering and breeders are doing it even more so. Particularly anyone who would buy anything from Chris Brown. If he hits women, what do you think he does to animals?
“If he hits women, what do you think he does to animals?”
Ding! Ding! Hit the nail on the head, my friend.
personal choice. my bf has pure-bred pit bull. i was scared the first time i came in the house, he was so intimidating looking, but he’s like a baby. he was laying in bed w me last night, snuggled up against me. but my bf will not let me walk him as they are very strong and if he tried to go after a squirrel, i would not be able to hold him.
I love my pit. My pit is such a big puppy. We’ve had him since he was a puppy and he is so good with kids. My son jumps on him and lays with him and my pit doesn’t even flinch. I hate that they have such a bad rep. Most pits in shelters were probably once breeded and given to some a-hole who couldn’t take care of it and gave it away. It makes me sad.
Our pit is a giant baby too. She’s so patient and sweet with our kids.
However – we’ve had her since she was four weeks old because some douche was selling her by the side of the road downtown as a good fighting dog. They were too little to be away from mom but he just wanted cash. We bought all of them off him and took them to my mom (who is a vet) to get them healthy and find good homes for them.
Our pit has been through ridiculous training and is very very well behaved. But she is still an animal and we do not allow our kids to play with the animals unattended (they’re all under age 6). It breaks my heart to see pits being sold because you know that people who genuinely care about these dogs and want to raise them right would at least look at shelter dogs first. There are ALWAYS pit puppies at the shelters.
Bet you don’t love those pitty farts though? Oh boy! 🙂
@Kait I agree, never leave any child unattended with any dog. That is so sad that people do that. I am so glad you rescued them.
And @KK woah baby, those farts are horrible. I think pits have stomach issues. Ours was diagnosed with IBS so you know they’re bad and like every 10 minutes or so. LOL.
@kk
YES HIS FARTS ARE HORRIBLE!!!!!
Nothing compares to greyhound gas. I have a pit and his farts are like flowers compared to my dearly departed greyhound. My pit is also AMAZINGLY gentle with my two boys (1 and 3 1/2) who regularly try to pull his lips and take a little ride on his back. When raised right they’re excellent family dogs!
If I were a dog and horse’s ass aka women beater chris brown was my owner, I would very much rather be put down.
Prob his mom was thinking that by showing a pic of deepshit with the pups, people would feel sorry for the dogs and quickly try to buy them and save them.
…and Chris Brown continues to hang himself quite nicely…
While this practice is not as bad a puppy mills, a lot of the same very negative aspects happen when you breed puppies instead of supporting shelters. Bred puppies, especially pit bulls, are not sent to proper homes a lot of the time. Pit bulls often go to owners looking for cred rather than a home that would treat them carefully. Because of this, pit bulls are abused and neglected a lot of the time.
Dog fighting rings usually do not use puppy mill puppies a lot (because puppy mill puppies are often very weak and poorly bred) and will use dogs bred for aggression (pit bulls very much included) in private homes. It is extremely selfish and stupid to think that a person can breed puppies and send them off to be well adapted to society rather than trust the professionals at animal shelters to situate puppies properly.
I have met wonderful pit bull dogs in rescue shelters, but they need to be cared for properly by people that want to end the cycle of training pits for aggression and sport.
It is sad the way some breeders, who rely on the internet for sales, will ship a puppy to anyone who will give them money. Even chatting with the prospective new owner is not the same thing as inviting them into your home to truly get a vibe for their intentions.
It is true that there are many pit bulls in shelters, and they are one of the breeds I would not bother going to a breeder for, BUT- it depends on your living situation and local laws. A few years ago, I tried to adopt a pit bull puppy from the local Humane Society. I was not allowed to because I did not own my own home, and for liability purposes they will not adopt out “dangerous breeds” to those that rent.
Then every time I showed interest in another dog, they had another reason why I couldn’t have them, no fenced in yard, etc. I even sent them a lengthy email explaining I was an Animal Science major with a good history of animal care, but they never replied and never helped me find a dog that was a good match. I gave up and found a great local breeder. I now have the most fantastic Aussie anyone could ever ask for and I’m glad things went the way they did. Still a shame that I couldn’t give that pit pup a home, because my search would have stopped there.
You know we lost our renters insurance because we own a pit bull. It’s really sad that they want people to give these dogs a home, yet make it nearly impossible for those that really can and want to. Pit bulls and pit bull owners are discriminated against. Not all are bad. By that, I mean not all pits and pit owners.
I have a German Shepherd and I love the breed, we are a perfect match. Because of genetics it’s important to know the lineage, therefore I bought from a very small breeder who is in it only for the love of the breed and to produce sound but also very sweet dogs. Everyone is amazed at how sweet tempered my dog is. My cats are all from rescue shelters. I resent when people are in my face about buying a dog (he was quite cheap) – when you know the breeder and the breed well, you know what you are getting, in most regards. Of course all dogs require training, socialization, etc.
I agree. We mated our wonderful collie mutt with a neighbors dog and she produced a litter of puppies that were all adopted by other people in our neighborhood. We just gave them away! And we watched these beloved dogs grow up over the past 16 years. They brought bones and condolence cards to our mama dog when she passed. We visited some of their dogs in the days before some of them were put down, to say goodbye. Our dog from that litter is the last survivor and families drive by and stop their cars when they see him in the front yard, to say hi and let their kids run out and pet him. They were a special litter of pups and sure, these families could have gone to shelters instead but The litter we bred brought so much joy to all of us! It’s ok too!
I have a purebred dog. I got her from a reputable breeder. I get really annoyed when the rescue advocates call people names because we disagree. It doesn’t support your cause at all. I tried to adopt a small dog and there was a ton of paperwork, and a home visit. WTF?!?!?! They wanted to me to repair the gate on my courtyard BEFORE they would let me adopt. Nevermind that I intended to litter box train the dog just like my other dog. Neither of my dogs ever even go into the stupid courtyard anyway. And they also had me provide proof of my vet care, which I did. Then they questioned me about my 14 year old pomeranian’s diet and why he had heart disease. Because he was f*cking 14! It was an infuriating experience.
I too had a frustrating experience with my local shelter (see reply to sarah above). I understand why they make you jump through hoops, to prevent a dog being mistreated or returned, but I feel that they are sometimes so picky that they prevent perfectly good people from providing homes. It was day and night adopting my cat, they didn’t even bother to call my landlord to see if I had permission. I don’t get it!
The breed rescues and some of the smaller private rescue groups are much worse than the city shelters/pounds. I’ve always gotten my dogs and cats from a municipal shelter or the MSPCA/ARL big outfits. The last one, we drove from MA to WV to get him after seeing him on Petfinder.
Seriously you are upset they checked into you vs handing the dog over to someone who could have been abusive to the animal or put it in a bad environment? They were doing their due diligence as any reputable group would. I hope you never have kids – yikes!
Kim
I think you missed my point. I don’t mind them checking into me. I allowed the home visit and provided the vet paperwork. The point is that it went entirely too far. There is a difference between making sure that my home is safe and being overbearing.
What a horrible thing to say to another person, that you pray they never have children.
Hi Kim,
wow…bold statement. I have a pug, purebred from a breeder. I attempted to adopt 5…FIVE different times. I was rejected because
1. husband had a job and wouldn’t have time for her
2. I was in grad school and could not financially provide for her
3. I had cats
4. I had a broken LINK in my fence
5. we lived on the second floor
So yeah, after 5 heartbreaks, I went to a breeder. Not to mention that the adoption fee was 500 for a 3-4 year old dog with some health issues, while the breeder was charging only a few hundred dollars more for a puppy.
In short, maybe adoption places need to reassess and make the process a little bit easier and cheaper so people actually WANT to go to them.
PETA has the paw print all over this. Last I looked this was a free country. And if I want a purebred dog I will have one. And I do. Pitt Bulls are great dogs.
Why would anyone hate Chris for loving this breed? he has every right.
I was looking into a shelter dog. What a bunch of self righteous control freaks.
Everywhere I look my rights are being trampled and from what I can see this is just another way to do it. I am not about to have a group of people dictate to me how to raise a dog I adopt. I will never agree to the home visits. The idea I need a chain link fence. I have had many dogs. And the fee was 600 for the pleasure of adopting. No thanks
Some may need to feel PC. And allow this sort of control in the name of CARING.IF you don’t like purebred dogs don’t get one. Put leave my rights to have one alone.
“I don’t use the word ‘pet.’ I think it’s speciesist language. I prefer “companion animal.” For one thing, we would no longer allow breeding. People could not create different breeds. There would be no pet shops. If people had companion animals in their homes, those animals would have to be refugees from the animal shelters and the streets. You would have a protective relationship with them just as you would with an orphaned child. But as the surplus of cats and dogs (artificially engineered by centuries of forced breeding) declined, eventually companion animals would be phased out, and we would return to a more symbiotic relationship – enjoyment at a distance.”
— Ingrid Newkirk, PeTA vice-president, quoted in The Harper’s Forum Book, Jack Hitt, ed., 1989, p. 223
+1
-1. Have you ever seen how most dogs are bred??? If you did you would never own pure bred. The majority of breeders raise the dogs in completely inhumane conditions that would sicken you and they do it for the $ not the love of the breed.
@ Kim
Yes I have, so I know what you’re saying is utterly incorrect for every good dog breeder I know. (And I know MANY!!!) The breeder I got a dog from has been breeding fantastically healthy and beautifully tempered dogs for 2 generations in her family. Most dog breeders do more health care for their dogs than themselves.
I also volunteer for rescue.
Kim, that is so not true. There are good breeders and bad breeders, just like there are good rescue groups and bad rescue groups. I have had experiences with both good and bad breeders. My first dog’s breeder dropped him off in a pet shop with a horrible reputation and we discovered he had lyme disease. To this day we don’t know if they had sold him knowing this. My (soon to be) second dog’s breeder is amazing. Her family has a very personal relationship with the families purchasing the puppies and I saw their home, where they raise the dogs, in person. It was a lovely farm house and they knew their stuff, which is important with this breed which is prone to health problems. True breeders take a big hit financially in raising puppies–it is expensive and unpleasant and they will mostly take a loss on it. Breeding is a science, not something to take lightly, but not all breeders suck at it. I myself am interested in learning how to breed (for our farm, not for sale–we have a need for hunting dogs) and have been doing a lot of work to understand how best to do it so the dogs are comfortable and healthy.
I have a rescue puppy, we are not quite sure what she is but she has this brindle coloring and before her ears stood up (making her look like a Shepard) she looked like a pit mix. One day walking down the street two guys offered my husband $500 for her – which was more than we paid. But if I had to guess they wanted her for fighting or breeding due to her pit resemblance. It’s sad what that breed has to go thru, they are seriously the most misunderstood dog out there.
She sounds beautiful!
So now you believe Peta cares for animals. And they just want homes for shelter dogs. Well really they are a front to make having any pet a right.
New Documents: PETA Killed a Near Record-Breaking 95 Percent of Adoptable Dogs and Cats in its Care During 2011
Hypocritical Animal Rights Group Brings Pet Death Toll To 27,751
Today the nonprofit Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) published documents online, obtained by a Freedom of Information Act request, showing that People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) killed a staggering 95.9 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2011. Despite years of public outrage over its euthanasia program, the notorious animal rights group has continued killing adoptable animals at its Norfolk, VA headquarters, at an average of 37 pets every week.
According to records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services, PETA killed 1,911 cats and dogs last year while placing just 24 in adoptive homes. Since 1998, a total of 27,751 pets have died at the hands of PETA workers.
“PETA hasn’t slowed down its slaughterhouse operation, even as the group continues to lecture the American public with its phony ‘animal rights’ message,” said Rick Berman, CCF’s Executive Director. “It appears PETA is more concerned with funding its media and advertising antics than finding suitable homes for these dogs and cats.”
Despite its $37.4 million budget, PETA employees make little effort to find homes for the thousands of animals they kill every year.
A 2010 inspection of 290 PETA animal custody records performed by the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services discovered that PETA killed 84 percent of the animals it took control of within only 24 hours. Additionally, the inspection discovered that PETA’s animal shelter didn’t meet PETA’s own published guidelines for running a humane shelter.
“For the 13th year in a row, PETA’s leaders have shown they don’t care about the unlucky dogs and cats that come to its Norfolk facility,” Berman continued. “It’s about time PETA’s ‘shelter’ is reclassified as a slaughterhouse.”
CCF has obtained PETA’s “Animal Record” filings for every year since 1998 from the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services. Members of the public can see these documents at http://www.PETAKillsAnimals.com.
He just loves living up to a stereotype in every possible way. What a douchebag. Ugh.
Seriously you are upset they checked into you vs handing the dog over to someone who could have been abusive to the animal or put it in a bad environment? They were doing their due diligence as any reputable group would. I pray you never have kids.
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING. What f*cking douche bag this piece of sh*t. My f*cking God, could he make himself more of a scum bag?????
Last July and last December I adopted two dogs from the county shelter. TONS and TONS of abandoned pit bulls there. The shelter tries so hard to get them adopted. They have a program just for their pit bulls (run by volunteers) to train them and make them easier to adopt out when people look at them.
IF they are even looked at. The saying is basically a pit bull is already dead when it enters a shelter because essentially no one wants to adopt a pit bull.
Row after row of pit bulls I saw every time I went to the shelter. HEART-BREAKING.
And this piece of shit is breeding them?? What f*cking LOSER.
Thank you!! Same story here where I live. Shelters are FULL of pit bulls and pit bull mixes that were bred by ignorant pieces of sh*t like this douchebag, and now no one wants them. You are right, it is truly heartbreaking. How much stupider can this guy get?? I shudder to think…
I see a terrible future for these puppies.
i work it pit rescue and im not gonna read through the ignorant comments people make about the breed. please dont hesitate to visit your local shelter and rescue a pit bull, they’re amazing,loyal, smart,and athletic dogs. there is no need to sell any pit bull for 1,000 while hundreds die every day in our shelters.
Hello Michael Vick Jr.
This animal should not be allowed to have dogs! Hope one bites him in the balls…
This would require that he actually have some ‘balls’ to speak of…I have my doubts.
As someone who works at a local animal shelter I can see all sides of this debate. The choice to buy or adopt is a personal choice, I have no problem with responsible breeders who check references and continue bloodlines for the love of a particular breed. Unfortunately, in South Mississippi, responsible breeders such as the ones I mentioned are few and far between. Most down here do it strictly for money and the conditions are usually deplorable. If you do decide to buy always educate yourselves beforehand. Ask to see vet records and always ask to see the parents. If a breeder is unwilling to allow you to visit their facility or view the parents it’s probably a good idea to walk away. Good breeders should always be willing to work with you.
As far as the Pit issues, I can say that I have seen some of the sweetest babies at our shelter, but I have been around some that have even made me nervous and I have experience with dogs. I can say that some of the sweetest pits I have seen were fighters, unfortunately that sweetness did not extend to other animals though. I do believe that only experienced owners should own certain breeds. When people say it depends on how you raise these breeds they are partially correct. When people hear that they automatically think abuse or neglect, which is untrue. People with good intentions can turn these animals aggressive, not by abuse but by not being firm and in command of them. Once a dog has learned that it has dominance over a person is usually when trouble starts to arise.
Thank you for weighing in. I adore dogs and it kills me to say it, but some pits are edgy. Even a pit that is fine usually can get edgy. For instance – I know a pit who’s awesome when he’s with his male owner, but when he’s with his female owner, he doesn’t listen as well to her, and I’ve seen him get into scuffles. Minor, but still scuffles. I have seen a lot of owners whose pits kind of scare me, and many of those are rescues by well-meaning people. Never ignore your gut about a dog!
And I keep going back to the fact that pits are terriers, and terriers can act up at times. Even if they’re teeny tiny.
Also on the “reputable breeders” – I think, and I am not saying this about anyone here, that sometimes merely being pleasant and not overtly sleazy qualifies a breeder as “reputable” to some people. If I were so inclined to get a purebred dog, I would insist on one who does genetic tests for the major diseases afflicting my breed of choice, and have her/him show me the results. I don’t expect a perfect dog, but I would rather avoid some major health issues that could be fatal or debilitating, if possible.
Pit bulls were bred for dog fighting. Thus, they may have some issues with other dogs. Not a deal-breaker. As for their temperament toward humans, aggression was never tolerated and it was bred out of them. This was until idiots like Michael Dick… I mean Vick, started to breed just for aggression. I own 4 pits and know that they would not harm a person. Sorry, I know enough about the bred to know a good pit vs. a good dog who had a horrible owner. Chris Brown deserves a good ass-kicking because for him to breed pit bulls when 5,000 are euthanized every year in Philadelphia alone, is a tragedy. Go to your local pound an meet a pit if you never have. Once you meet a pit bull and get a kiss, you’ll find it hard to resist adopting him or her. They are such people-loving dogs.
I don’t want to trash the breed but morons like Chris Brown are the last people who should be breeding them….
I have a friend who has a pit and she is amazing but she came from a breeder,they knew her parents and grandparents-she has also been raised with cats,kittens,rabbits and assorted other animals-she has all the good traits of the breed-shes a natural comic,has a lot of energy and personality…
I tried to rescue a pit and we tried to socialise him slowly with my other dog-it was going fine until one day he got my other dog,pinned him down and it took 3 guys to pull him off-who knows what he had been through before we got him-I took him to the shelter and had him euthanized -I would never put an dog like that up for adoption if he’s going to attack another dog….
There are bad dogs in every breed but pits are used by these idiots and its wrong…personally I think Chirs Brown is a psychopath period and it doesn’t matter whether he’s holding a wrinkly puppy or not.
Statistics don’t lie.
http://www.dogsbite.org
-Pit bulls are noteworthy for attacking adults almost as frequently as children, a characteristic not shared by any other breed.
-If a pit bull or rottweiler has a bad moment, instead of being bitten, often someone is maimed or killed; that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk.
Very true, Mary. I don’t trust them (Pitbulls) and never will. They are have been bred from their killer instinct and I have no idea why someone would want one. Especially someone with children. How many stories do we need to hear about attacks and maimings to get it???!
How stupid do you have to be to quote dogsbite.org? Their statistics are literally made up and that website has been debunked by numerous professionals many times. Just read what they have to say in their about me section. She literally implies that her website is the only one slamming pit bull type dogs because it is some huge conspiracy that “pit promoters” and *GASP* VETERINARIANS (NO, NOT THE VETS!) are in on to post websites dedicated to pit bulls to get false facts out there.
“We are the only website dedicated to putting the safety of humans before dogs, as we are the only source of information on this topic that is not owned, controlled, or funded by pit bull breeders, owners, veterinarian or animal welfare groups.” http://www.dogsbite.org/dogsbite-about.php
They literally just said they are the only website run by a non-expert in the animal fields. And you quote them? Methinks you need to do some fact checking before you open your mouth.
Personally I don’t have a problem with animal breeding, to a certain extent it can help to preserve the positive tendencies of a breed, however, of all the breeds in all the world, pits?
Now don’t get me wrong, I love pit bulls, I think they’re fantastic dogs. If you take into account the number of people that get pits for the vicious reputation, and use crude methods to turn them into ‘attack dogs’ it’s speaks pretty well of the breed that there aren’t more attacks than there are. The breed is at the mercy of the humans that are breeding them for dog fighting/ to use at attack dogs. Cases where they do attack get much more media attention than other cases which has a lot to do with their bad image.
So…All of that said, why breed pits? they are the single most common dog in shelters and they are the most commonly destroyed dog in America. To an extent I can see responsible breeding of them as a boon to their reputation, but there are so many, and they are so frequently and tragically destroyed…
*note: I edited my comment because I can’t seem to locate the stats I had referenced.
Aah he makes puppies frightening, yeah Chris whatever you’re doing to win us over, (IE: apologizing with someone else’s words and then throwing an adult tantrum on twitter when nobody buys it because it’s disingenuous), it will never work because the psycho look in your eyes is still there.
I agree with the person who says what matters most is that the dog is a good match for the owner, but it really does make me sad that my friends and family seem to be getting puppies of their breed of choice rather than adopting. I will insist on adopting when I am ready to have a dog.
Yes, it’s a personal choice, but I still can’t help being disappointed in a person and mildly angry if I hear they bought their dog from a breeder rather than adopting. So many dogs are put down that are sweet and loving.
Don’t breed and buy while shelter pets die 🙁
The dog we got in December was not even planned. I happened to be there when she was put out ‘in the front’ to be looked at for adoption.
She was a 2 1/2 year old chihuahua who was taken by police from a puppy mill. There are some atrocious puppy mills – google them if you can stomach that humans could be so cruel- but she was essentially just with a DUMB *SS who had 9 dogs, including her, who he kept only to breed.
Neglectful and given bare essentials only to make sure able to get pregnant etc. She didn’t even have a name – obviously not a pet.
She and her puppies were brought to the shelter. Her puppies were being adopted super fast but not her. She was terrified, cowered on her towel on the cement floor and tried to nip and bark at anyone who approached her.
No one was adopting her and her time was almost up as have to make room for more dogs. On her last day (chance to be adopted), I went up to her from the side and just sat with her for a little bit. She let me do this. I put a baby blanket over her gently and she finally looked over me with the sweetest, saddest face. After sitting with her for a long time and putting the blanket on her, she finally let me pet her.
So, I took this 6 pound chihuahua home on December 23rd and it has been SO wonderful to see her blossom and thrive and be happy with us. She needed lots of space and time and we gave it to her.
Now, she is the most loving animal. She lets my 6 year old play vet with her – patiently lying there while my daughter listens to her heart and gives her pretend medicine.
We take her off-leash in a huge open area and she is like a completely different dog. She runs, frolicks!, and even swims in the shallow part of a lake! A chihuahua swimming!
My long point is, sorry, is that when I hear of *sses like Chris Brown breeding, it makes me SO sad to think of all the dogs being killed EVERY day in shelters – especially pit bulls. Our little Lily was scheduled to be killed because of how she was. Made that way by a dog breeder.
When I see dogs in pet store windows or advertised on Craigslist, it really makes me sad. Those are exactly who Lily’s previous ‘owner’ sold to.
It drives me nuts that people base their opinions about pits from the media .. German shepards and rottweilers are known to attack also and of course you wont see that on the news . I own a pit and shes the sweetest dog ive ever met and is great with everyone she meets . So once you own one then you can judge.
I find this very suspicious that this creep is selling pit bulls. I wonder if he is actually breeding them as fight dogs & these are left overs. I cannot abide this man, everything he does is repulsive & I do not trust that there is not something shady, cruel & devious behind his pit bull sales.
Does this surprise anyone? This kid has got to be the biggest tool in music right now. He’s an arrogant, self-absorbed, unintelligent little thug. I expect nothing less from him than this kind of tool-y shizz.
Imagine the even bigger tools who are buying puppies because they have this tool’s name associated with them. I pray for those little four-legged souls.
All shelter dogs should go to a good home before any breeder can breed again. Then breeders and buyers should be taxed up the ass to keep the population back down.
Dogs and cats should be a luxury to own and RESPECTED!!!!!
You want a dog that seems to have the most bites? Seems obvious that if you make that dog the most ‘popular’ breed for good pet owners and unscrupulous ones too that bites for that breed will rise. In ontario, where breed specific legislation is in place for pitbull types bites have actually risen despite the absence of pit types the people who would have owned a pitbull for all the wrong reasons have now chosen other breeds to breed and raise to be terrible dogs Yes terriers of any type and size are feisty towards other dogs, however pitbulls should never be aggressive towards people. People that have pitbulls purely for their tough appearance are probably not the ones concerned with maintaining temperment in their backyard bred, backyard kept, undersocialized pitties. Pitties have incredible resilience friendliness and will to please their person and anyone who has adopted one of these wonderful dogs can surely attest to that.
We have Staffordshire Terriers and they are one of the breeds now being bred to “take the place” of pits in areas where there is pit legislation.
what is the world coming to. first casey anthony is allowed to get a puppy and now this living breathing piece of shit does.
I’m VERY much against what he is doing…this only gives me more reason to suspect that this guy is bad news. I hope the dog issue is settled one day and people like Chris are banned from selling for profit. He does seem arrogant and self-absorbed. I don’t see anything positive about Chris Brown, sorry folks.
Okay, for the people saying “pits are aggressive by genetics” and “you can’t deny several of them mauling humans to death over the past few years”. Theseare the only comments I am going to take my time to respond to. First one “aggression”. American Pit Bull Terriers are just that, a breed of terrier dogs. Many of them have what is called “dog aggression”. All types of aggression that can appear in dogs have names ex: human aggression, food aggression, treat aggression. All of these different types of aggression are completely unrelated to the other. Meaning just because a dog has one type does not mean he has another. Many pits are dog aggressive but due to their history of dog fighting, their breeding has selectively weeded out human aggression over the past few hundred years. To find one that is human aggressive is very, very rare. Second point: There have NOT been several mauling deaths by pits in the past few years. Forget what you see on the news or what your neighbor tells you her cousins friends father told them. The CDC did a study over 20 years and in that time frame only 66 people were killed by “pit bull type dogs” meaning 66 people were killed by American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, any dog similar to these or mixes of these. That is roughly 3 to 4 people killed a year by a few breeds of dogs added together. Out of millions of dogs, that is not a very high number whatsoever. If you actually notice on news stories, when another dog attacks someone that they know is not a pit bull (ex: 2 nights ago they showed a video of two dogs chasing a kid up a car and then attacking a man…dogs had fluffy tails ie not pits) it was reported as “dog attack”. But if at any point they have a reason to suspect it is a pit either by rumor or whatever they will report “PIT BULL MAULS HUMAN” regardless of what the dog is determined to be at a later date. There is a group that goes around and investigates these claims and they report that at least 75% of the reported “pit bull attacks” are not actually pit bulls at all but other breeds. Look up the National Canine Research Council. Identifying a breed of dog by looks alone is nowhere close to being an exact science and frankly most people can’t tell the difference between a pit and something like a bulldog crossed with a lab.
i remember a pitbull attacked and killed a 5 year old kid in germany in the early 2000’s. it does happen. and they can attack the small dogs owned by neighbours and such. again, going with what i heard on the news, so it’s legit. not saying all pits are aggressive though, some do seem quite tame. but it’s just too risky imho. i would be afraid to see one in my neighbourhood…
I have a pitbull mix and he is two years old. In these two years he has never shown a single sign of aggression. It’s people that think like you that bugs the crap out of me. Every time some old lady in my bldg sees my dog they start freaking out; and he’s just sitting there next to me. Open your eyes lady and stop being so close minded. With dogs it’s the owner not the dog that brings out the aggression. Those little dogs are the nastiest f’ers of all. Cute my a$$
Figures Chris Brown would like violent dogs. There is no such thing as a purebred pit bull; it’s not a recognized breed. Anyone paying $1000 to Chris Brown is a sucker. And they’re bred to fight, it doesn’t matter how carefully you raise them. Pit bulls are dangerous due to instinct and jaw strength.
I have went thru and read almost everyones comments and some of you had really good points! Although some of you annoying me by talking so badly about pit bulls! Yes pit bulls do show aggression at times but what dog doesn’t people just put the bred down because of the stupid idiots out there that us them for fighting , pit bulls are Dang good dogs and i really do hate it for the people out there that are to stubborn and want to listen to all the negotive things that they hear about the breed instead of giving them a fair chance to show you good they have in them!!!!! I have a pitbull that will soon be 5 years old she is the most incredible dog I’ve ever owned , she is the whole families protector,extremely loyal and very well mannered! I do trust her around my kids which are ages 7 and 4 and they love her and she (my pit) loves them… Im very proud of my pitbull and would stand up for the breed any day anytime!!!!!!!!!!!!
So trashy!
In big issues like these, nothing is ever so ‘black & white’ in regards to positives & negatives of owning a specific breed.
I have nothing against Pits, they’re truly beautiful dogs. I did have one ‘edgy’ pit experience with an adult-sized (but still a puppy) female while in a Petsmart. Her owner was very careful, & was still obviously training her. We waited a safe distance before approaching at all.Finally she behaved & was allowed to approach us (we have no dogs, just wanted to say hello). She just slightly leaned (not pushed) against my thigh…Even *that* almost knocked me down, they’re just so powerful.
But then I felt her body tense & heard a low growly sound, & stopped petting her taking 1 step back. She pushed her nose into my legs again, making the sound again. I won’t lie, it scared me a bit, even after the owner reacted. We thought it was because we keep guinea pigs & that she smelled them on us… but as we left the store I realized that (based on where her nose seemed fixated) that it HAD to be because of ‘that time of the month’. I wish I *had* known, so I could… explain the possibility…to her owner, to prevent other possible problems.
On the same note, I’m cautious/vigilant around ALL dogs after being bitten at age 8. (My cousin’s GOLDEN RETRIEVER, of all breeds xD) I know all dogs have the potential to be aggressive, & it’s a combo of things that decide how under control an animal will be. I can understand *everyone’s* side of things here.