On Monday afternoon/evening, TMZ reported that John Travolta was being sued by a masseur (a male massage therapist). The masseur claimed that Travolta groped him thoroughly during a massage at the Beverly Hills Hotel. Travolta – through his lawyers – jumped on the lawsuit and issued denials far and wide, claiming that Travolta wasn’t even IN LA at the time of the alleged incident. Go here to read yesterday’s story, including my background information on Travolta’s VERY ALLEGED history with gay spa sex. Oh, and here’s a bizarre update to that story: Travolta (through his lawyers) claimed that he wasn’t even in LA on the date of the first masseur’s groping/assault. Last night, Travolta’s lawyers released a Mr. Chow bill from NYC to “prove” that Travolta wasn’t in town. They also seem to have provided TMZ with one of the weirdest Photoshopped images ever – go here to see it.
So, yesterday, in the midst of the Met Gala fashion explosion, Radar reported a new twist. According to Radar, Travolta is being sued by a second masseur who also claims that Travolta got quite handsy (and then some) during a massage at “an unspecified resort in Atlanta, Georgia on January 28, 2012.” This second masseur has the same lawyer as the first dude too! Once again, the language and imagery are pretty graphic, so if you’d like to read all of Radar’s story in all of its gory NSFW details, go here. The basic gist: the second masseur claims that during a deep tissue massage, Travolta started jerking off. There are some really gross details, but this part made me sad: “Sweat was pouring down Travolta’s neck, and he asked Plaintiff again to say something nice to him.” Poor, sad, sweaty Travolta. Also, Travolta was pretty much begging this guy to do a lot of “work” on his glutes and he was trying to maneuver his butt in a certain way to ensure… well, you get the picture. After that, Travolta allegedly grabbed the masseur and groped him.
Beyond the sex stuff, you know what I find interesting? How a common thread to all of these stories seems to be “everyone knows John Travolta gropes masseurs.” This second plaintiff claims that he asked a co-worker to take the in-room massage but the co-worker refused because “Travolta has been banned from a spa that the coworker used to work at in Los Angeles.” And after the masseur was assaulted, he complained to his bosses “to no avail” and Travolta even demanded that the masseur come back and “finish” – which the masseur refused.
And this time, Travolta can’t claim he was out of town – everyone knew he was in Atlanta, working on Killing Season with Robert DeNiro. As for Travolta‘s response? His lawyer says, “The problem in America is anyone can sue anyone. However, in this case this unidentified plaintiff and his lawyer will regret they filed this fabricated suit. We intend to sue both of them for malicious prosecution.” Yeah… this is no longer “funny stories about gay spa sex.” These are stories about Travolta physically assaulting men and everyone turning a blind eye. If the stories are true, I hope Travolta has to pay out, big time. If the stories aren’t true, I hope he can defend himself in court.
UPDATE: Oh, and this lawyer representing the two masseurs? He says that there are plenty more victims of Travolta’s sweaty groping. Ugh.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
It’s one thing to be gay, but he sounds like a desperate pervert
A man must be REALLY repressed to get to this desperate kind of unacceptable behaviour.
I don’t know. This is some bold behavior. Wouldn’t the repressed person go grab a prostitute?
Maybe the idea of not screwing prostitutes appeals to him. If so, he sure wouldn’t be the first one to think that.
Exactly! Some people are born gay; there is no shame in it. However, if these allegations are true, Travolta’s promiscuous, predatory behavior is despicable! Expecting professional masseurs to perform sexual acts is unethical, illegal, and immoral. I would feel sorry for Kelly, except that I believe she knew exactly what she was getting into (unlike Elin Woods)!
Absolutely. This is not about being gay. This is about sexually harrassing service workers because you think you can get away with it.
I agree. It does seem to be a disturing trend that many of these accusations come from people he EMPLOYED. It seems he is fine degrading someone he considers a servant.
I agree with CB. If these stories are true, I hope the victims get justice because this was a form of sexual assault. If they are not true, I hope Mr. Travolta has the ability to get justice as well.
+2
I believe this is 100% true. I was visiting a spa in Hawaii seven years ago, and while my husband and I were getting a couples massage, we asked if any celebs were around. Our massage therapist told us none that week, but the week before JT was there and threw a tantrum because he wanted an enema and the spa would do it for him. So I believe these claims are true and hope they get his money for being a closeted perv.
UGH.. So gross
I don’t mean to offend anyone, but who the hell asks a spa for a freaking enema?!
Usually, where there’s smoke, there’s fire. I remember back in the day when Christopher Reeve was considered the ideal for masculinity and all things testosterone-laden. A real lady killer, right? Unfortunately for him, his bisexuality was the WORST kept secret in the business. We shared friends in the hunter/ jumper horse biz, AND a decorator in NY right about the time he made his final, tragic showing at Devon and became paralyzed. The backlash from admitting you weren’t 100% straight was obviously greater then than it is now…but everyone, and I do mean EVERYONE in our circles knew, despite the fact that he fathered children and made a huge effort in the press to be seen only as the “Uber-Straight Family Man”.
In this day and age, when Neil Patrick Harris can successfully play both a womanizing cad on his sitcom AND have a successful marriage and children with his male partner in real life, I guess my question is this: WHY bother with all of the subterfuge? The court of public opinion would probably swing way more in Travolta’s favor if he’d just come clean. Whatever arrangement he and the lovely Kelly Preston have is their business, who cares at this point? Other than the “ick” factor of him harassing men sexually, would anyone really give a damn that the guy from Pulp Fiction is actually a pillow-biter?! C’mon….this is 2012. Give us all a little more credit, Mr. T. 🙁 After all…this IS show biz, not evangelical Christianity at its highest levels, lol.
@ Genevieve: the subterfuge is all because of the CO$. They hate gays – and not just a little. Except when they squeeze out confessions and have that to hold to their delusional followers’ throats in the name of compliance with their BS.
So if JT admitted he’s bi or whatever, his “church”/untaxed blackmailers would kick him out and do who knows what to him, because they would be very pissed off at him for admitting it. It’s way bigger than him and his sexual preferences.
What a beautifully worded comment @Geneviève. But watch out for those who ridicule a very popular saying, that is not in line with the periodic table.
Where I don’t agree with your comment, is that people are dependent on his remaining in the closet. Yes, Kelly can play the victim; or she can also play the good friend who wanted to have a family with a man she loves and respects… But the CO$ Geneviève is a whole other deal.
Not only they are reputed of making, illegally, tapes of members confessions during “auditing sessions”, and would use it in a harmful way to sway members’ decision to defect; They were also able to highly recruit based on JT’s popularity, as well as fronting the cure for homosexuality.
In 1950, Hubbard had clearly included in his Dianetics how harmful homosexuality is to one’s soul, and has set aside specifics in cleansing one’s soul from homosexuality, as well as aggressive auditing sessions. So admitting their knowledge of an openly homosexual member, or even worse, admitting that their “cure” does not work, is something they’d rather not out. Pun intended.
In covering for John, they had spent money and efforts. And because of all the trouble that ex-members are now causing, the renouncement of a highly visible member would be a blow the church would rather not deal with.
@Maguita – it’s been proven scientifically and as it applies to gossip to be untrue.
honestly, no one uses that phrase anymore unless they want to undermine their own argument.
He is a sad gay, im surprised when i find people that DON’T know he is fronting
Well, today Lainey outted him:
“I can’t speak to the validity of these particular accusations but I can tell you that John Travolta + Male Masseur = Er*ction is a very basic Gossip Principle. When he was shooting Hairspray in Toronto he’d spend time at a posh member’s only fitness facility. I know two people, personal friends, men, who told me they were propositioned by him in the locker room. And there was allegedly at least one massage incident there too. One of my very best friends, male, years ago, was working at a hotel and showed Travolta to his room. He remembers clearly that Travolta did not want him to leave.”
I totally believe that. Here’s the deal: If he would have come out and said, yes, I also enjoy sex with men, then all the good will that has built up for him would have paved the way. Instead, he is outed as a creepy perv who sexually assaults men. He had the opportunity to clear the air the right way, but apparently gets off sexually by this random BS of forcing himself on men in sauna’s, massage parlors and even waiters.
http://www.celebitchy.com/140399/john_travolta_hits_on_young_hot_waiters_in_front_of_his_wife/
@QQ: What exactly do you mean by he is a ‘sad gay’? Couldn’t you just say he is a sad ‘man’? Why use the word like its a label?
Tell me, if someone reported something about you, would you like it if there was a comment that said you are a sad ‘black’? How about ‘negro’?
See where I’m going with this?
Save your ignorance for Fox News.
I don’t think QQ meant is it as a negative. The problem we are discussing right now stems from the fact that Travolta is a closet homosexual (if true anyway). It’s not unrelated. Your attack would make sense if we all knew Travolta was gay but he was being sued for a gambling problem and the poster called him a sad gay. Try not to jump the gun and attack people for no reason.
I do not know what QQ meant, but maybe it would translate to “if he was merely gay, it would be perfectly OK, but this is looking like a really scary gay guy, because he seems to feel entitled and/or pervy to the point where assault or rape is all right and part of the turn-on”. Only QQ shortened it to “sad”? That’s sadly what it looks like to me, if true.
@ gg and Maquita;
You’re absolutely right. I always fail to realize the power that CO$ wields these days, and the stealth with which it operates. Spending most of my youth on the “other” Coast, I had little opportunity to experience the full effect of what CO$ has become, an its hold on some of the industry figures I knew going on a decade ago. It had just started really taking hold, and I, of course, laughed like hell when the concept was explained to me. I do feel really sorry for the celebrities who get sucked into this. Most of them aren’t smart enough get out of their own way where their careers are concerned, so this really SUX.
Ugh this is starting to sound like Tiger Woods.
Wasn’t his skeevery at the very least consensual? Because if these allegations are true, Travolta is committing crimes.
Anne, you stole the words right out of my fingers.
John is sounding more and more predatory. I think he believes that he is paying for it; because let’s face it, you can go to saunas in any big city, and get the action you crave. Whether we like it or not, approve of it or not, saunas are the destination of free sex without the hang-ups.
The big difference here, in Hollywood women are expected to shut it when Mr. Hollywood Star harasses you at your work, and no one blinks. Heck, some might even say, oh, she was looking for it. But not if the harassed are men, because THAT is taboo (weird, right). Remember the masseuse who complained about Kevin Costner asking/insisting on a happy ending the DAY OF HIS WEDDING? Do we know What happened to that case?
Whatever, let them all get out of the woodwork. I think
If you take the homosexuality factor out- it’s the same scenario as big ego male celebrities/directors forcing themselves on naive young actresses on the casting couch. Nothing wrong with being gay, however, sexual harassment is NOT COOL. Some famous (and not famous) men have huge egos, and think they should have anything they want.
We all know he is gay, but I hope the harassment is a lie
Except Tiger Woods didn’t assault women. They gave it up to him for free. This man is FORCING himself on these workers. That is sexual assault.
Tiger Woods is a repressed gay or forced himself on service workers as it alleged? I fail to see the connection.
What @brin means, is not unlike Tiger Woods, a whole lot more of hidden lovers, or in this case, harassed workers, are going to surprise the sh-to out of us, and come out of the woodwork in flocks.
She is comparing the shock of how far away from a clean, loving, father and husband the new allegations are going to show John Travolta to be… Just like Tiger.
Agree. Fans of gossip columns would be well aware of JT’s rumoured double life. Those who aren’t into gossip have absolutely no clue. I tried talking to work friends once about JT and they flatly didn’t believe it. They also didn’t want a bar of Nicole Kidman being horrible. Or Tom & Katie having a contractual arrangement. Or Timberlake & Biel being not a bed of true romance. There would be real shock if anything concrete about JT is revealed. I like him as an actor. Think he could have handled things differently.
The jig is up
Haha, my thoughts exactly.
one story and it’s a rumor, as many stories as JT has/had it becomes truth. the guy is a skeeze..
If he’s not going to come out of the closet and out from behind his lawyers then I hope he seeks some kind of therapy. Sexual assault is unacceptable, I don’t give a crap who you are. I can’t believe this has been a known secret all this time.
The CO$ does not believe in any psychological therapy. They think psychology is all completely false and based on nothing but lies. All of it. Amazing, I know. Because $clions believe they can overcome everything all by themselves. With a generous gouged “donation” to the CO$ of course.
See: Tom Cruise calls Matt Lauer glib.
@gg – it’s because co$ via auditing offer therapy.
This article in the new yorker is very informative about how co$ actually works and explains what the auditing sessions are.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright?currentPage=all
it makes a scary amount of sense if you think that essentially the co$ members get therapy disguised as ‘auditing’. The problem lies in the fact that the sessions are then used to blackmail people into behaving how co$ wants you to behave whilst not giving you the full set of tools so that you want to go back for more which of course they will charge you for.
i am surprised they did not do more to shut down Paul Haggis for revealing all this stuff but maybe it’s also because he finishes the article by saying he isn’t against co$, but simply the way it is run.
Damn ಠ_ಠ
you got to love that ph photo of him. i would let someone dress up as an masseur and film his patetic ass
It looks like his head on a hobbit’s body.
Will be interesting to see how this is handled by his team. I suspect he will end up in “rehab” and then try to go back to his “normal” life. He must get serviced by some of these massage therapists otherwise why would he keep using them?
I think he probably gets serviced by MOST of them! If JT tips 100.00 on a 200.00 meal, can you imagine what a masseur could take home? I believe every bit of these stories- it sounds as though JT found an avenue of available, (mostly discreet) sex and has been taking full advantage of it for years. These “spa” stories have been around forever! I simply don’t believe that most celebs are what they portray themselves as- it’s all an intricately crafted image by PR people and personally, I think JT is probably a big old, entitled gay pig.
I think he’ll go with the prescription painkiller excuse.
Dibba–ITA, except they can invoke Jett’s passing to say it lead to the scrip abuse, which led to him turning into a ‘temporary’ gay predator. Nevermind John’s been doing it since well before he lost Jett, but it will invoke sympathy from Middle America. They can even get a Co$ ‘physician’ to go on record of how abusing painkillers + grief = gay predation on service workers. Done and done.
(I’m typing this from Middle America, that was no slam.)
I hate to get super serial, but–there is still stigma attached to the massage therapist profession even though the large majority of us seem to have no problem going to a spa to get pampered. It requires hundreds, and usually thousands of hours of training and licensing to do it independently or in a spa.
Then you have pretend “masseuses” with very obvious ads on CL and work in curtains-drawn hovels (even though legit therapists will list on CL too). I’m sure JT knows where to look for what he wants. The thing is, some people get off on “the chase” and the act of sexually harassing others. I would imagine JT is getting bored of guys that simply bend over for him at the sign of $$ or his busted famous face.
ahoyhoy, i was going to say that about his son, but couldn’t bring myself to write that. Who would do such a thing. If they do, i hope they burn in hell. LOL about the formula for being a gay sexual assaulter. The spin possibility are endless so should be interesting to watch. Let’s see: Kelly “leaving” him temporarily, cryfest on Oprah, Book about grief, etc.
I wonder what Qantas’ response will be if this is proven. JT is brand ambassador and much is made here in Australia of the connection between the two. Qantas is super-conservative and mainstream. No Richard Branson (anything goes) types there.
$cientology does not put people in rehab. They don’t believe in any therapy of that nature. Instead, they put them through “cleansing” treatments of their own shady design.
If he does anything other than denydenydeny and fight this through legal channels, I’ll eat my shoe. His goal will be to shut down his accusers and not admit even the slightest culpability.
I doubt very much that we’ll see this being PR’d in any of the usual ways. There *might* be a Will-Jada happy families walkabout, but I think there’s a very slim chance of even that. Someone who’s played as giant a charade as this for so long will see it through to the bitter end.
It’s another nail in the coffin of the Co$, though. With this, and the Janet Reitman book, and Paul Haggis and the other talkative defectors, and the FBI investigation, the dominoes are falling fast.
it’s sad if it’s true, and sad if it’s false
Sisi, I agree that it is sad if it is false. If it is true though it isn’t sad, it is a crime! If a hetero male treated women like this we wouldn’t feel sad for him at all. I think the same should apply for Travolta. There is nothing in this world keeping him from behaving in a sexually responsible, dignified manner. No one gives a crap…okay…most people don’t give a crap if he’s gay. However, people do give a crap that he would mistreat people to get off! Lastly, due to his Scientology affiliation, he probably thinks that treating “wogs”, second class citizens, doesn’t and shouldn’t count anyway.
*breathe* End of Rant
I get the “sad” connotation b/c I have always liked him it is sad that he can’t be more accepting of himself. That doesn’t give him the right to make his problems someone elses’ problem.
really don’t think it’s true.
If a man is coming on to you why wouldn’t you leave? He even said John was touching him and he still didn’t leave. Some of this doesn’t make sense. It reminds me of Al Gore. I thought be must be guilty unt I listened to the hour long police interview of the supposed victim. She was absolutely nuts and made no sense and seemed to love the attention in the police interview, laughing, reliving events with Al by acting them out like an actress. It was hysterical. He was innocent.
All Certified Massage Therapists (the educated, above-board kind) still get random customers who hope for extra. It’s a job hazard, and most customers will take the hint and stop asking. Travolta is a longtime aggressive sexual predator, and didn’t take the first ‘no’ for an answer.
From this guy’s account, he tried repeatedly to just do his job, continually refusing John’s advances. Then HE DID LEAVE, and John came back and wanted him to finish. He REFUSED. It’s all in the article.
$. Greed.
Except in this case there is a long history of similar complaints and at least one “spa” that has banned him. I’m sure it is a well known fact that he has been banned from many such spas.
As for Kelly being shocked and leaving him, I don’t see it happening. I’m sure she has known about this for years, although she is probably unaware of how aggressive he can become.
he has been getting away with this for years…so glad he is finally being called on it.
he is very sad, but the sense of entitlement is astounding.
LMAO
So let me get this right, another John Doe is being violated for an hour before he too decides he is actually being sexually assaulted and leaves. Yet he too decides not to report it to the police but wait another almost 4 months then contacts a lawyer who is over 2,000 miles away
LMAO
How about it is actually the lawyer who wants to get some money in this recession and as his first claim was so full of holes and hysterically funny, he decides to put in another claim to try and back it up because he read on IMDB that JT was filming in Atlanta at the time so he can’t say he was elsewhere.
If you read the second lawsuit (which is the amended first one on Radar) the entire second suit looks slightly more professional and not written by some Jackie Collins fan. But surprisingly enough they are written by the same person. Why the huge difference in styles of writing?
And the first case has just crumbled due to proof he was not even in LA at the time. TMZ have confirmed he was in New York via Mr. Chow
What his sexuality is; I don’t care. But you have to feel sorry for him over this. To have someone try and hang you out to dry over a false claim is horrible
That NYC photo is SO not Travolta. Travolta weighs at least 75 pounds more than that body they ‘shopped his face onto. the belly is concave!
And I don’t see his signature on that Mr. Chow receipt.
Regardless, John is a pilot with his own plane. One dinner receipt does not account for the time the allegations supposedly happened.
Btw, professional masseurs get ‘chased around the table’ a lot in their work. They often pride themselves on diffusing those situations smoothly and with compassion, so they can complete their job and get the money. If a masseur (or even a damned waitress) ran away immediately every time somebody hit on them, the industries would come to a total standstill.
TMZ have confirmed JT was in the restaurant. Presumeably Mr Chows actually checked their receipts and forwarded it on with confirmation to TMZ. Of course you are not going to see his signature on the receipts because no one has the same signature for their finances to what autographs they will sign for fans.
I seriously doubt that he travelled to NY straight after. And here is why:
1. It takes almost 6 hours to get to NY flying, not to mention he may not get a flight pattern straight away.
2. NY is also 3 hours in front, plus travel time to and from the airports, plus checking into a hotel and actually having time to eat his food; means the attack took place at about 8am.
Could happen, but:
The plantiff said his chef that was so skilled, was preparing hamburgers, for lunch? which means he could not have made it in the time period. Unless JT eats hamburgers for breakfast, but the plantiff was so detailed in his claim he would have mentioned it was strange that burgers were being prepared at 8am.
Also as JT was so forth coming in telling John Doe all about how he got into the business, yet he forgot to tell him that he was going to be flying to NY in an hour or so; even in the car (as he surely would have struck up some sort of conversation there)
And Yes, Massage Therapists get hassled, but how many law suits have these 2 got going?
The first must have loads. He advertises for his business on the web only. JT must have been his first client if he hadn’t been hit on like this before. Same as the other guy. Why didn’t either of them go to the police? Why wait 4 months then contact a lawyer?
Sorry, not buying any of it
Mr Chow is notoriously up the ass of any celebrity they can help out. There is NO signature on the receipt I saw. Nor any part of a credit card number that could be confirmed by the issuer.
Hamburgers at 8AM? have you seen John’s physique? He’s a big guy, and that photo proof TMZ has , has his head on a 175-pound (max) body.
The point is, Travolta’s been known for this for YEARS. C0$ helps pay people off. I’m sorry you hadn’t heard these stories yet, but he is absolutely notorious…banned from high-end spas all around the country. The MSM ignored it all b/c they try not to lead the news with gay scandals of actors (wouldn’t have time for real news..lol). I promise you, he has been doing it for years. I’m sorry you had to find out this way, but he’s a predator. You’ll see.
He has a private jet so no it wouldn’t take 3 hrs up front, he wouldn’t be checking in with the peons. The airports are about 30-45 min from the city but Teetoboro NJ where private jets come in is about 15 min from Manhattan right across the GW bridge.
The reciept is time stamped @ 11:58 pm assuming he was in the restaurant for an 1hr or so this could have happened in the afternoon or morning and he would have had plenty of time to hop on a plane and dine in NYC.
Just because it is JT’s credit card doesn’t mean he was actually there. Many times a star has a team of staff that they give cards to in order to get their work done. It is very possible that someone from JT’s team was having a business dinner at Mr. Chows, and not the man himself. Signature is important.
I don’t trust Mr.Chow, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I think video tape confirming JT’s location should be available to prove it one way or the other.
Of course TMZ is the epitome of righteous reporting. They aren’t up anyones ass now are they?
JT just wishes it was his!
Hmmmm………i’ve seen your comments on this elsewhere. Are you a CoS troll?
Yesterday actually, twice and 3 times today, wow I must be famous if you remember me. And I am not involved in any religious groups. I am an atheist
@mln76
Whether you fly commercial or private it still takes nearly 6 hours and just because he owns a plane does not alter time differences between LA and NY which is 3 hours. So that is 9 hours even before you add in travelling times to and from airports, restaurants, hotels, eating etc.
@ahoyhoy
He has signed the bill, look at the bottom left hand side, you can see it in part. And I don’t care what sexual orientation he is or what he does in Spas. This is solely about the facts of this case do not add up.
This has turned into a witch hunt rather than anything else. I would hate to be the defendant if you lot were on jury duty.
Help me Mr Wizard, I am in Salem in 1692
agreed.
I’ll never understand hollywoods obsession with keeping gays closeted in this day and age. They want to keep women interested in heart throbs but Travolta isn’t one anymore. Besides speaking for myself I wouldn’t care. I don’t go to see clooney in movies because he’s hetero I go because he’s a good actor and in good movies. It is called acting afterall!
ruh roh! coming out of the woodwork now.
OMG> This is the moment celebrity gossipers have been waiting for. The tabloids are about to be vindicated.
If the world is ending in 2012 let’s bring all that fuckery to light!
Will, Jada, Katie and Tom…you’re next!
they yet started with Will Smith and it’s weird because the rumors started when Will Smith became friend with Cruise via scientology
Travolta’s gay? Can I get a collective, “DUH!!”
if it’s true,Travolta has a crush on the masseurs and he totally is idiot because there are many spas who “finish at hand” and sign confidentiality agreements
First off real spas don’t do prostitution. I consider it akin to the situation you have where mafioso claim to be in ‘sanitation’. Do you really think your garbage man is Tony Soprano? Then why would someone who’s spent literally thousands of dollars and gone through a bunch of testing and school endanger their rep and career by prostituting themselves.
JT is getting off on his behavior. The man has access to any prostitutes etc that could fulfill all of his desire and keep their mouths shut but he somehow is getting off on the idea that these people are unwilling participants.
Exactly! This isn’t desperate guy needing a hand job, it’s aggressive sexual predation! They get off on the power dynamic.
‘Liking unwilling participants’ is the really scarey part because there could be so many of them for JT. . .
I have mixed feelings about the acusers. One the one hand, they kind of stayed in the situation instead of leaving immediately. Then, on the other hand, I’ve never been a sexual assault victim so I don’t know what it’s like to be in those shoes. I’ve heard of victims “going along” with the situation in hopes of getting out alive. For me, it’s too early to judge the masseurs but I’m leaning toward their side because of the long told stories about Travolta.
I’ve been sexually harassed and stayed because I hoped, after I put the man in his place, he would stop and I could continue to work for him and make money. He paid me very well, but his behavior became even more aggressive each time I denied his advances. He went from rubbing my shoulders to taking my picture, then touching my behind and trying to slide his hand down the back of my pants. (He would also make dirty phone calls to me multiple times a night). I often tried to diffuse the face-to-face situations by walking away and trying not to be alone with him (which was difficult because he often placed me in situations where it would be just us). The firmer I was in my rejection, the more he would cut my pay. I was also nervous about bringing this to anyone’s attention for fear of being “black listed” in the industry (no one wants to hire someone that airs dirty laundry, even if it’s true). I eventually left, but he continuted to make perverted phone calls all hours of the night and i had to change my number. The take away is that, just because these men didn’t leave immediately upon being harassed doesn’t mean that it isn’t true. They were probably trying to politely diffuse the situation, finish their job and leave. Obviously, like my boss, he couldn’t take the hint and they had to leave before it escalated further.
In my work I have to deal with men alone, frequently. They often make advances, and I always try to diffuse them and stay. Firstly, if I get huffy and leave, I don’t get paid. That, right there, is enough incentive for me when rent is due. Then there is the belief that you can simply diffuse the situation and restore the balance. Because having someone freak out on you because you don’t reciprocate is more than awkward, it can be scary.
thank you for your comments. I was a thin blonde waitress for 17 years, and even in the finest dining, men think it’s okay to ask me rude questions (are you a natural blonde? snicker), demand over & over that I sit on their laps (yes, I refused), just any and all inappropriate comments you can imagine.
After awhile, diffusing sexual stuff from customers becomes routine. It’s not right, but if a restaurant wants customers, management will almost NEVER correct a customer for bad behavior. And if you want to keep your income, a waitress learns how to handle sexual harassment. It’s a well-paying career if you have the backbone for it. After 17 years, i couldn’t and gave up.
I have 2 former (male) waiter friends who became Certified Massage Therapists, and they tell me stories that make my hair curl.
Thanks for sharing ladies. I feel like the way the massage therapists handled the situation was normal (and similar to what we’ve all described).Sticking around for any length of time doesn’t mean they were complicit. I’m sure they were trying to diffuse the situation politely because they feared losing their jobs (if they made Mr. Travolta unhappy).
Ahoyhoy, I feel you! I’m a waitress and have been for 5 years. Men can be the biggest pigs, and look at you as somehow beneath them because of your profession. I once had a customer leer at me while I offered the table dessert, asking if I was on the menu. This was in the presence of several other ladies, one of which I assume was his wife. Both said nothing. One time another man drunkenly grabbed my ass and attempted to kiss my neck when I dropped off the check. These are just two of the most memorable instances, and agement only to have them blow me off and make light of the situation. It’s sickening what I’ve had to put up with just for fear of losing my job and my home if I were to complain. No one deserves to be treated in such a way.
Well, there’s more than just a little inequality here, dont you think?
It’s a Big Star vs. the massage dude.
The masseurs might have been afraid to just walk because they thought the Big Star might complain and get them fired.
Big Stars tend to be more believed at resorts than hourly massage dudes!
In this bad economy some people really need to keep their jobs, ya know? . . . Maybe being a masseur is a last thread for some, and they cant risk losing thier only source of income. . . But then the dudes could only tolerate things up to a certain point and bolted.
I would rather live under a bridge than compromise my dignity for any “job” and a smart person can always land on his-her feet. I love it when people do the right thing and protect their character. I do hope many of these masseurs just up and left.
Those are some tough words, there, Anna. That’s pretty self righteous. By your definition, the homeless and poor are only so because they are stupi.
These are words of someone who has never actually been faced with a real threat of homelessness, I’m sure.
Thank you all for sharing. It’s very eye opening! It’s easy as an outsider to chime in but much different being in those shows – especially considering the need to remove yourself safely from a situation and income. I can’t judge people for staying in a job for income. I stayed in a shitty job where I was being bullied but I needed the money and didn’t want to mess my resume up, especially because I was just starting out in a small town.
This is all going to be interesting to watch.
Since we all know that “The Cult” will do everything possible, to dis-credit the men making these allegations. I hope those men have new addresses.
But the one person I would watch out for is Kelly Preston. She is going to be on the war path. And will not be pleased about her husbands shenanigan’s making the press.
That girl is knee deep with “The Cult”. And I see her making it her personal goal to squash the men who dare talk about her husbands… men on men groping!
I forgot about something I read yesterday about this case; Someone speculated that this whole sexual assault case was instigated by the Sci “church” because Travolta was trying to stray too far from the fold, and if he gets back in line they will drop the charges and “make it go away”.
From everything I’ve read about these sleazy people, I wouldn’t doubt it for a second. (Doesn’t mean Travolta isn’t a big old pervy pig though-)
That could be true! They have so much dirt on the members from those “auditing” sessions, all on tape. It’s sad that they lure people into giving up their deepest, darkest secrets with the implication that there is some kind of religious or doctor/patient privilege involved. Why else would they tape it and keep the master recordings, unless they planned to use it?
That’s what I was thinking.
Oh I like that! I have no problem believing Travolta hires “massage therapists” all the time, and would just assume he could sex them up, I have a really hard time believing that he wouldn’t back off when told to.
Yes, it’s entirely possible, and quite a few people are starting to put two and two together. For quite some time now, there have been these rumblings of “Travolta wants out” of C0$, with people speculating (even many months ago) that if JT did try to leave, leaks AND lawsuits would be coming out of the woodwork in an effort to smear, defame, and ultimately devastate his career and life. This pair of lawsuits especially fits the bill, since it’s supposed to be common knowledge that JT has a thing for masseuses.
It’s the first thing I thought about when Lawsuit #1 hit the Internet, and now that #2’s been made public, C0$ involvement seems more and more likely.
Also, I note a serious lack of mindless commentbots for this subject as opposed to, say, the ones for stories about Katie/Suri. So I’m not being too quick to judge any of this as the truth. These are people who would stop at nothing, especially if such a high-profile member as Travolta suddenly bailed out of the church.
I subscribe to this theory!
Especially because of all that “background” stuff that Travolta supposedly shared with #1 i.e., “This is how I made it up the Hollywood food-chain, blah blah”. Weird to think someone would actually say that (like the villain in a movie confessing everything). To me it seems like COS are sending a message to Travolta via things they learned about him via their auditing.
I believe Scientology is banned in Germany–or it was.
A smart move. Freedom of “religion”, yes. But this kind of coercive nonsense? Forget it.
It was either Leeloo or ZenB*tch who had fronted the theory.
Which wouldn’t surprise me in the least from these people. Going through one’s trash, is the least of the extent they’d go to bring you back into the church’s “loving fold”.
Ugh this has nothing to do with his sexuality it’s Sexual Assault. And yes he’s infamous for this behavior I’ve heard of a place in New England that’s also banned him. What you jerks blaming the massage therapists don’t understand is that if they walk out they don’t get paid and their bosses/ hotel staff may or may not support them not wanting to alienate JT. Also usually a-holes like this build up slowly doing something borderline then stopping then upping the ante testing how much they can get away with.
It’s also about power-JT has it, the therapists don’t.
exactly!
Exactly. This blaming the victim(s)–who has/have been paid to go there and don’t want to risk their jobs–is crazy. It’s likely these masseur dudes have dealt with other people who come on to them but have been able to handle the situation…but with Travolta, it got too far out of hand, so to speak (he has gotten away with it so often that he thinks it’s normal and is shocked when someone doesn’t go along with it).
It is sad, though. Poor sad closeted scientologist who needs a stranger to say something nice to him so he can get off. It’s sad and disgusting at the same time. Allegedly.
Whoever is lying in this scenario, and it could be either side, this is one messed-up situation. BUT- any of us who have been sexually harassed on the job know that it’s a really confusing situation. I was in a situation where I literally froze and didn’t know what to do, until much later (days later) when I finally reported it. And I was told that I had probably misinterpreted things, and I should just forget about it. Being faced with that kind of response, why is it surprising that they finally got a lawyer? I’ll bet they got shut down on all fronts, and finally found someone who would listen to them. For cash, yes, but they were let down by their employers.
OR Travolta is innocent- I am sure he can find a guy who will give him what he wants if he’s paying, and probably plenty who would do it for free, right? The sick thing is if he likes the “unwilling victim” scenario. Ick.
I’m so sorry your claims weren’t taken seriously. In my situation, the man harassing me was the business owner, so there was no one to report to. However, my industry is very tight-knit. So if I told anyone else in the business it may have hurt my reputation. When the power dynamic is so skewed, people will err on the side of believing the person who has the power. Perhaps because they harbor the false belief that a subordinate who accuses a superior is on a power grab.
Some of the reactions to this story are deeply upsetting to me.
Admittedly, it’s just an accusation and an alleged crime, and if you want to hammer that nail, then, fine. It’s possible that it *might* not have happened, or that details are being misreported or exaggerated, etc. (I don’t really believe that myself, but I can grant that much of the argument).
But claiming that, if it *did* happen the way it’s stated, the masseuse is somehow complicit in his own sexual assault? That by remaining in a room with Travolta he somehow made what happened to him permissible?
No. No, no, and no. Whatever the gender, people who are the victims of sexual assault *do not deserve* the blame of the assault. If this happened the way it’s described, then Travolta is to blame. Period. I don’t care if the masseuse stayed in there for two minutes or two days, I don’t care if he “knew” Travolta was a perv, whatever. If it indeed was sexual assault (and again, that’s alleged – that’s the bone you can pick) then Travolta is to blame. Period.
The level of victim-blaming in sexual assault and abuse cases these days scares the crap out of me.
Cosign! That was very well said.
ITA. Well said.
Very well said. Co-sign.
Omg, that “photo” of him in NY. Looks like they ‘shopped his face onto Justin Theroux’s bod (and under his hipster hat). Seriously, that’s not even his build!
I totally agree! They could have at least shopped his big head on a big body to be more convincing! Travolta hasn’t looked that thin since Saturday Night Fever. Lol
OK, so who else is going to dust off their Face Off DVD tonight?
It’s like his face is 1½ times too big for the body they’ve ‘shopped it on to!
LOL, no kidding, huh?!
from yesterdays celebitchy post on JT:
“Original Lucy says:
May 8, 2012 at 6:56 am
and it begins…I think Travolta is the gay Tiger Woods…I predict 85 more dudes come to the surface and tell their “massage” stories…”
This is sad..
JT as wealthy as he is sexually harrasses these people because he feels that they wouldn’t have the balls (no pun intended) to stand up to him and the scientology mafia backing him. If he were to pursue more wealthy or high profile guys he would have to be more sensitive to his actions and how he goes about in his homosexual promescuity. it’s just like George Michael–he would get it on in the fields behind truck stops with total strangers. I believe it’s partly the thrill but mostly the no strings attached quickie that they crave so they can go on about their celebrity lives unabaited
Both he and George probably feel like they’re gracing the plebs with the presence of their celebrity dongs and these ordinary poor folk should genuflect at the sight of them and do their bidding.
This story boils down to Travolta and alledged sexual assault. George Michael for all his shenannigans has never been accused of sexually assaulting anyone. I think George likes the bushes for anonymity, Travolta’s the opposite, he uses his celebrity.
this is sad on so many levels. strange that travolta lives in this world where he feels that being openly gay is not an option. AND, that he feels like his money, fame and power give him the “right” to harass and traumatize others. if this is true, he’s a pathetic excuse for a human being.
In today’s world of tiny cameras I seem to think if this was “known” and people “expected it” one of these dudes would have some damning grainy video…
This is from the Lindsay Lohan school of “if it isn’t captured on video, it didn’t happen” school of thought, which is very disturbing indeed. Bringing a camera in to video your massage clients? Yeah, that sounds legal, ethical, and smart.
I didn’t say it didn’t happen, it very well might have. I am suprised though, that him being famous and this being KNOWN, no one filmed it. Legal, ethical? With all the people that sell stories that isn’t the words I would think of for them… I think that if this was going on forever or if it was as just “understood” that one of these people would have gotten something they could sell to TMZ. That’s all. Maybe, even, I am waiting for that to happen. It would make sense, acuse, get lawyer – if no payout happens start parading all the acusers and then drop the bomb that one has text and one has video… I think holding that back is so that if a payout does happen the whole thing is kinda let go. If they bring out video upfront then it can’t be erased and there is less reason to make it go away with money.
I also agree with the commenter that said if it’s true he must like the fact that the parties involved don’t want it, because if that wasn’t part of the appeal why wouldn’t he just hire someone down for that behavior…
omg that pic is SO photoshopped. They think people will believe that?
Also, I agree that the girl to watch is Kelly Preston. She’s worked too hard for too long (surprise pregnancy, anyone?) to maintain the facade of their marriage and their children to go quietly. Fear her, she’s way more dangerous than her husband.
I remember reading an article about a waiter that Travolta was hitting on in front of Kelly. And she just acted like it was so normal. What the heck is she doing with him? He isn’t even attractive.
Talk about sexually transmitted diseases. This guy sound like a very sick man. And forget about blaming the victims of his sickness. Power is the name of this game
It’s quite simple she’s his beard. On her own she’s be a never been star ( I can’t honestly recall any film, or TV work she’s done can you?). With him she’s got a ton of influence within Scientology and a vast fortune.
You need to have sex with someone to get a sexually transmitted disease. I don’t think Travolta and Kelly have sex.
Not to mention if all he is doing is jerking off in front of other guys, he isn’t catching anything. He’s a creepy, voyeur or exhibitionist or something.
Yeah, I don’t believe he has sex with his wife either. That pregnancy has insemination written all over it.
But regarding Kelly, I believe that she wanted the lifestyle, not necessarily the work opportunities that go with it. Nothing terribly wrong with that, especially at the time they had gotten married over 20 years ago. A lot of people, men and women, marry for money or power.
IF she wanted the roles, I believe she would have tried as much as Katie Holmes is trying in becoming a movie star… Or she tried, and I haven’t noticed?
Sorry but I still don’t buy it. BOTH of these “John Does” just coincidentally have the SAME lawyer? C’moooonnnn. Once one lying thief comes up with some BS story to get money, then all the cockroaches come out of the wood work.
I still think this is BS.
ITA!!! i seriously think this full of s h i t and then some!!
It’s possible that when victim #1 came out, victim #2 contacted the lawyer representing victim #1, knowing he’d be taken seriously. I would do the same, if I were in victim #2’s shoes.
How would the 2nd one know who he was or who his lawyer was in order to contact him? He said himself that his client was a “John Doe” to protect his identity.
I completely agree. This is bs.
And flight records are out.
Oh and one more thing. The man is a known pilot. He used to fly everyday a 1,000 miles or more to a film set and back. The receipt for dinner is at near midnight. It’s not unbelievable that these events took place and then he hopped on a plane to NY.
He can hop on HIS plane any time he wants to. He’s a pilot licensed to fly jet planes. His house was featured in Architectural Digest. It showed his own private runway with a a full-size commercial jet parked right outside his front door.
It is more of a possibility mln76, because as you said, the restaurant receipt in NYC is nearing midnight, while the accuser has officially stated that the massage meeting in LA was at 10 a.m.
However, John’s lawyer is now stating that he was in NYC also the day before… We need proofs of this. Hard proofs.
A check from Mr. Chow is his alibi? That place is totally focused on accommodating celebrities. And John has a fleet of goddam planes. Who says he couldn’t have traveled to both locations in the course if a day? He’s the gay Tiger Woods. Hopefully he can rip himself free of the COS and live as an out bisexual or gay man whatever he is
You have to file flight plans, so it can be trace times of his travels in his plane on that day.
BUT no one has investigated any flight plans yet, have they? Because John’s attorneys could have already shown an official record of when exactly John flew in & out of NYC. They haven’t offered that, and it would certainly be a lot more precise and official than a receipt with no signature. They could put this lawsuit AWAY instantly if they released those records. Why wouldn’t they I wonder?
ahoyhoy, exactly. An unsigned receipt is evidence of absolutely nothing. And they haven’t released those records because they don’t exist, I’m almost sure of it.
I think the words masseur and masseuse are frowned upon, like stewardess. I think they prefer LMT or massage therapist.
+ 1
Am I the only one who is suspecting this campaign is being funded by insiders of the Sci-Church, to assault or punish him for potential anti-sci thoughts, words, or actions?
Maybe because of his wife, their new child?
I wouldnt leave it out of the equation, just given the insanity of the Sci church and their tactics of control and ownership. Sounds like personality and image slander if it is a planned attack….
It sounds oddly familiar to teh whole “Tommy is a closeted gay” – which means either one of two things (or both)- that Sci is full of perverted gay men (in that they assault people, ot because they are gay) or that Sci uses the route of sexual harassment cases against their own members, because that is a crime that few people can forgive and no one forgets, and is very harsh.
I haven’t thought about it but that’s a great theory.
Also, if I’m not wrong, quite recently he had to admit — in court — that he hadn’t provided the best treatment for his autistic son (because of his religion) which ultimately caused his death.
Honestly, when it comes to CO$$$$$, absolutely nothing would surprise me. CO$ is an EVIL, PLOTTING, MONEY-MAKING, GREEDY CORPORATION/CULT that would stop short of NOTHING to get what they want accomplished.
I HATE “Scientology!!!” And the fact that there is one attorney at the helm of this ship (sorry for the Scientolobot pun..haha), yes, this could be that CO$ is behind this. If this proves to be true, although I’D LIKE TO FEEL SORRY FOR TRAVOLTA, there’s no way I can, as we’ve all seen the writing on the wall w/regards to CO$ for years and years.
Travolta should have told them a long time ago to shove that E-METER up their arses and left. SO WHAT he’s gay? Who cares, really? If Travolta would have just COME OUT before all this, the FREEDOM AND RELIEF he would have felt would have been exhilarating!!!
there are blinds that point to Lisa Marie Presley wanting to leave Co$. I wonder what they will throw at her.
She already left and has been holing her ass in her home. Last I heard, she was trying to move to London, and has hired security guards in the meantime to keep CO$ from her front door.
All over sad.
@maguita – i did not know she had left. we definitely have co$ in Britain. Their HQ is down my road. not as fancy as the one in Beverley Hills.
maybe they aren’t as aggressive abroad. i just thought she’d simply decided to move to England because she liked it. I did think the body guards were excessive but what you say makes sense.
I didn’t know Co$ had offices (it is a money making machine after all) in Britain.
The only difference I see with LA, more specifically, is that Co$ members are everywhere. There is a reason a lot of crap got hidden so tightly for so long. It only got out with the Children of Scientology reports on YouTube. Social media made it possible to out CO$, and force the FBI to investigate. Which they still are.
I believe in Britain, cult harassment, as they go on in LA are more than frowned upon. But that’s more your alley… What are regulations on cults in your corner of the planet?
i don’t think it’s easy to set up a cult here. churches are registered under charities act. there is a strict regulation of them. it does not mean that rogue ones don’t exist, but it takes one complaint to the police to start an invetigation that soon shuts them down.
The other thing though is that we are very suspicious of religion in general. our leaders have to hide their religion, church attendance, whatever the faith except perhaps muslims, is down,etc. so it’s not as easy to acquire followers what ever you are selling.
co$ is definitely here. but very low key. i’ve seen them in only two places in London. one is the centre down my road. the other is tottenham court road.
And yes, harrassment of any kind, especially of the religious kind is very much frowned upon and will get swift action from the police.
That picture from TMZ looks photoshopped — that face/head looks too big for that body!
comes from a dark place to ruin another’s person’s life.
Yeah, and sexually assaulting somebody, bringing their job and livelihood into danger if they complain, is pretty goddamn ruining of their life.
Oh wait, you mean that these men are making things up to ruin poor JT’s life? Because I know who has all the power in a super-rich-client-getting-a-massage scenario, and it sure as hell isn’t the massage therapist.
LMAO at that “photo”! Wow. Why not just paste his head onto a body with six pack abs and a giant dong while their at it? Maybe riding a unicorn and passing out food to the homeless? the sky’s the limit!
I smell an internet meme about to be born.
Hey, the article from Radar mentions Travolta Jr. is around 8 inches. That’s quite sizeable, if you ask me 🙂 .
So I guess it’s not hands & feet we should be looking at, ladies…It’s the head! Go for the guy with the giant head!
😝 please don’t remind me. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to get the description of his dong and wirey pubes out of my head.
If it’s the head then Tom Cruise should be phallically blessed.
If it’s the head then Tom Cruise should be phallically blessed.
And Leonardo DiCaprio’s dick is bigger than Fassbender’s.
Nothing then could outgrow Christopher Meloni’s head… Boy, you ladies are making me blush.
lol, fabgrrl—thanks for the image!
Wow. That’s both funny and kind of disturbing at the same time.
Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.
Hon, a basic understanding of the periodic table should tell you how untrue that is.
Same with unsubstantiated gossip.
Where there’s smoke there’s smoke, usually a smokescreen.
Grow up.
(@LAK: I don’t think she knows what the periodic table is.)
Ok, this is a serious matter but I can’t stop laughing at this comment (fron TMZ’s thread):
(by) My Big Salami
I believe John T. grabbed John Doe # 1 and John Doe # 2’s weiners!…I also belive in the next couple of days there will be more John Doe # 3 # 4 # 5 # 6 # 7 # 8 that agree with #1 and # 2 that John T. also grabbed thier weiner….Thats alot of weiner!…But in the end who is the winner?
Oh my gosh! Big Salami is too much 🙂
Well, to be fair, Weiners do come (heuh) in packs of 12.
LOL!
I love this thread.
There is no way that photo is him, or untouched at least, unless he dropped about 50 lbs while crossing the country to NY.
I’ve long felt sorry for him that he seems to be forcing himself to live a lie, but if these stories are true, I feel no pity. No matter what you’re going through, you don’t have the right to touch, harass, or assault anyone else.
There is no way that photo is him, or untouched at least, unless he dropped about 50 lbs while crossing the country to NY.
LMAO!!!
Like I said yesterday, I DO believe these accusations. Also, w/regards to Travolta being in NYC, like I said yesterday also, Travolta has more than one plane/jet, & is a well-known licensed pilot….so it is VERY POSSIBLE for him to have been in LA AND NYC in the same day.
I’ve tried reading all of the blogger comments, but got tired of reading all of them, so I probably haven’t read like, the last 20 or so, but if no one’s brought this up (about him being a pilot & the REAL POSSIBILITY of him being able to be on both coasts in ONE DAY, I’m kind of surprised).
When I’m confronted w/a “situation,” I always try to 1st see/establish if there are any “patterns” to behavior/circumstances/situations, etc., & if “patterns” are present, then I usually err on the side that tells me there is the possibility of such an occurence.
I’ve heard of Travolta’s same-sex sexual encounters at spas, steam rooms, etc. FOR YEARS NOW. I see a “pattern,” so therefore, I err on the side of the coin that tells me this is a pattern of behavior, not happenstance.
To me, he’s probably done what all has been asserted. Honestly, I hope I’m not right, but this is how I’m feeling/thinking right now.
Being that he is a pilot, who flies himself every where, is it not interesting that as evidence, restaurant receipts were given rather than flight plans?
A restaurant receipt means nothing without his specific signature.
i know of restaurants that do not trouble select customers with the bill at the restaurant but send it their office instead or have an assistant take care of it after the fact. That assistant would have CC details that can be phoned in.
If he’s a regular they could put it on his tab and send him a bill at the end of the month.
@JAnet – exactly.
what photo?!
This one:
http://www.tmz.com/2012/05/09/john-travolta-masseur-lawsuit-photo/
LOL! Hilarious photo. How does that prove anything, other than Scientologists have horrid Photoshop skills? The receipt? How is that proof that HE ate there and how much did the dude eat?!
OMG! It’s John TraBieber!
ROFL, what a fake! The head doesn’t fit the rest of the body. Somebody flunked Photoshop 101.
he is not just thinner, he is shorter!!!
Against a wall? really?? that could be in his house.
That receipt only proves that someone dined at Mr Chow.
Now,see… When I look at that pic, my first thought was “They just photoshopped Tom Cruise’s face to make it look heavier/rounded. (LOOK at the eyes! Hold your hand up to cover the rest, & tell me those aren’t Tom’s eyes.)
@ Hakura, OMG, I never noticed that before, but I can totally see what u are talking about – Tom Cruise’s eyes (and nose).
I’m SO glad I’m not the only 1 who sees it xD It really stood out to me. Maybe it’s not a coincidence that both Tom *&* John are Scientologists?
Wouldn’t put it passed those weirdos to have Tom pictured ‘in public’, then editing it to look (somewhat) like John. x_x
And how does it prove he was in NYC? He’s standing in front of a wall. Is it a New York wall? They should have ‘shopped him in front of a street sign or something.
This is sad. My mom lovedlovedlovedddd John Travolta since the Welcome Back Kotter days. She saw every one of his movies. She passed away last year, and I’m really glad she never had to read this latest bunch of news, even if they are old rumors.
I have a photo of me with John Travolta at my daughter’s party at Build-A-Bear in New Jersey on the date in question. We are holding a newspaper so you can see that date. Kind of like a kidnapping.
I don’t remember where I read it but someone sighted Kelly Preston being quite affectionate on a plane with a man that was not John. I might have read that on Gawker.
What bugs me the most about this kind of thing is the insult to our intelligence. These ppl think we’re stupid.
Karma.. Butt.. Kicked has arrived..
I don’t understand women who beard. Who would want to live their life living a lie? Don’t get it.
Money. Lifestyle. Think Kelly Preston could get a mansion on her own paycheck?
Right on the money. Plus, they (women) usually have someone on the side too.
Frigid? Lazy? Greedy? Desperate? Don’t understand them either.
Maybe they love each other? Relationships are complicated.
There’s been rumors about Travolta, Cruise, Clooney, etc., being gay for years. If they are, why not come out and say it? There may be some backlash, but I don’t think most people would care. I sure wouldn’t.
Well, even if most people don’t care, good luck getting cast as a leading man anymore. I know it’s stupid, but it’s true.
Of course, guys like John Travolta and Tom Cruise don’t need to work again in their lives. But if they came out, the public is going to resent being “lied to”. And how does that make Kelly Preston look? Nicole Kidman? Katie Holmes? It makes them look bad too. It even makes their kids look bad by association. Again, it SHOULDN’T but it does.
Travolta is past his leading man years, and Cruise and Clooney soon will be.
Maybe I am niave but it seems to be John would of just paid this guy to shut up and go away. You know that is what this guy is after. Money. If it was not about the money he would not of hired a lawyer to sue for money. He would have gone to the police and pressed charges! So if it were true John would not want it coming out. Totally believe he is gay just not buying this. 🙁
Ok, I’ve actually got some decent gossip to contribute! I was just waiting to hear back from a close friend. It’s not massage-related, but…my friend dated a relative of John’s about 10 years ago. According to my friend, ” John is really into 20-something men. Apparently he likes getaways in Thailand and enjoys all it has to offer…but NOT with underage kids….just younger men. And just to feed more of your curiousity….the Travolta/Preston house apparently has his and hers master bedrooms…both with discreet outside entrances.” Juicy, no? And fairly believable, considering everything we’ve heard about JT over the years.
^^^^^^Come on you guys! Great gossip in the post above! Lol ^^^^^^^
Yes, thank you. Glad he likes only grown-ups.
The two-entrances situation does not surprise me at all. Besides, who isn’t into 20-something men? If he were a het 60-year-old actor, he’d be into 20-something women.
The whole situation makes me think about George Michael, who has been out for decades and has a loyal male partner, but still goes out for “strange” in parks, bathrooms, whatever. Making out with randoms is just sexual preference, and I don’t know that Travolta’s love for it is entirely due to Scientology repression. It could be that even if he were happily married to a man, he’d still be out grabbing at helpless service workers.
And while it’s easy for me to believe that the massage therapists’ claims are real, I don’t necessarily think the trauma they suffered is worth 2 million dollars. That’s, like, plane crash money. I’m sure they were upset, but they weren’t physically injured and the emotional harm seems minor.
As stupid as it seems to photo shop John Travolta’s head on another thinner person’s body and pass off a receipt with no evidence on it except that John Travolta “tips well” as proof that he didn’t grope somebody, it totally sounds like something the Church of Scientology would try to pathetically pull off.
I remember hearing stories of them getting caught digging through celebrities’ trash like raccoons and clearing out slave camps (because if the slaves aren’t physically there at the moment, it never happened, right guys?). Their antics would be funny if they weren’t so terrible.
Never found him attractive at all. Now he looks downright ghastly. I wonder if its true about how he had to prostitute himself to get work in Hollywood. If it is, he must have ZERO self-esteem. I’ll never understand why some folks so desperate to be “famous” that they would sell their souls to perverts.
I can’t see it. Back in the day he was very attractive, had charisma to boot, an edgy coolness (most prominant in Pulp Fiction) and was a half decent actor. I still look at pics of him in his prime and melt.
Haha!!! That “photo” they provided to TMZ is terrible. Laughable. The more I look at it the worse it looks. Check out the neck on that image – it is from someone who has thin, defined neck muscles. I looked through the gallery of JT photos on TMZ – not one can you see any neck definition. He is just too large of a man to have a neck like that. I seriously can’t believe they are trying to pass that off as legit.
While I can’t in any way condone any of the alleged behavior on Travolta’s part, I personally don’t think that many human beings can withstand the public barrage and tab frenzy that is going to come down on him. I feel sorry for him.
Very very sad and diifficult.
tom cruise next
I think whatever skeletons are in Tom’s closet he’s much too controlled and maniacal to ever let his secrets out. He probably made Suri sign a non-disclosure contract in the delivery room.
He probably made Suri sign a non-disclosure contract in the delivery room.
ROTFL now. Seriously.
“he’s much too controlled and maniacal”
lmao at that along with the Suri comment.
*wipes tears*
And…people go a little crazy when they lose a kid. I’m sure JT lost some of his ability to cope and completely control the situation since Jett died. Tom Cruise hasn’t had any major traumas.
lisa Marie presley too. there are rumours she wants out.
Reading some of the comments above, I’m inclined to believe that this could be a put-up job engineered by the COS.
Those creeps will stop at absolutely nothing.
For some really good background on the COS, check this out. Long, but excellent reading.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/02/14/110214fa_fact_wright?currentPage=all
Interesting, too, that the weapon of choice was a civil lawsuit, not a criminal complaint for sexual assault. The standard of proof is lower in a civil lawsuit and anyone can file one, unlike a criminal complaint.
On the other hand, it’s not like this would be the first time the police didn’t follow thru on a criminal complaint(s) when the accused is either someone in a high profile position or has signicant financing backing. For God’s sake, if Lindsay Lohan can get away with it, anyone who has money can.
@Janet – i emailed that article to all my friends when it was first published.
I love that it is informative in a rational rather than scary, bogey man way, so you can really see why a rational person can be sucked in to co$, even when they are presented with the alien theory.
It also makes sense why he and the other lady who defected could remain scientologists while abhoring it’s methods and leaving the ‘church’
Maybe I’m a prude but I would have left the room as soon as he spread his cheeks.
??? Who sticks around after that???
A masseuse that wishes to be paid.
Somebody with bills to pay? Somebody who is worried that the super rich and powerful client is going to complain about them to the boss and they might lose their livelihood?
Seriously, are people not seeing the power inequality in this situation?
I understand someone not wanting to lose their job, but the person DID walk out before the massage was over and is suing for harassment (as he should).
If it were the cheek spreading would have been the deal-breaker.
Double post. Sorry
OK I’m late to the party. But I’m telling you, this has Co$ written all over Iran’s not in the way anyone thinks.
Kelly doesn’t give Benjamin barley water?
John admitted Jetta was autistic during his son’s inquiry?
These are not the statements of a faithful Scientology family. They want out. Both of them.
John doesn’t care anymore. He doesn’t care what this does to this career. He’s 57 years old and past his leading man days. It’s been rumored he’s wanted out of Scientology since Jetta died.
Do you know why these John Does haven’t come forward? Because they’ve been bank rolled by Co$. I guarantee if John came running back to them this would all go away very quickly. But he won’t. He doesn’t care about them and he doesn’t want to do it anymore. He’s been preparing for this, hence hiring the pit bull Marty Singer.
But I guarantee you, Kelly is 100% behind him. Whatever their relationship is, it is something that she benefits from. Despite his (and possibly her) extracurricular activities, they are a family. I doubt he would make a move to leave the Co$ without Kelly being 100% on board. There wouldn’t even be a whiff of dissent if both of them weren’t on board. This is something they both want and if the Co$ is behind the allegations (which may be true to a small extent but bankrolled by Co$) you can be sure they won’t stop until John is ruined.
As far as the allegations themselves, I tend to think #2 is a bit more credible than #1. But I think both parties exaggerate their claims. I think John made passes at them and left it alone after being shot down. It’s still sexual harassment but it’s not sexual assault.
His late son’s name was Jett, not Jetta. Travolta’s into planes, not Volkswagens lol (sorry I couldn’t resist) 🙂
Tell that to my phone’s auto correct. 😛
Autocorrect makes some humorous mistakes sometimes!
The idea of Kelly standing behind John brought a tear to my eye. Family is family. Even if they aren’t sexual partners, the two of them are bonded together as parents, and hopefully as friends.
I wonder if they blame COS for Jett’s death? By denying his diagnosis, maybe he didn’t get the care he needed? Or, if it isn’t that extreme, the “church” encouraging them not to love and cherish a “defective” child during the time they had with him?
How does someone who assaults men on a regular basis become the victim? This isn’t about sticking by your husband and providing support, or about a man who has not gotten the “care” he needed. It is about a man who has assaulted other men for years and finally deserves to pay the consequences.
Plenty of stories have surfaced about John. And it involves much more than masturbation. Steam room tryst in front of the public. He was opening his legs to expose his anus and you think he just wanted to masturbate. So ever hear of a few woman complaining about men? i have and the employees higher ups dismissed their complaints also. Big stars get preferential treatment.Guess it is fortunate for the victims the guy has money. To bad so sad.
just.give.up.the.fronting.and.come.out.
HOLY SH*T!
If Carrie Fisher says your gay, YOUR GAY!
Absofruitly! She would know. And she’s so wonderfully, unapologetically blunt.
Absofruitly!!!! This is my new favorite word! Mind if I use it from time to time?
Have at it Maguita!
I think someone is crying out to be caught. John wants to come out, but he can’t and that must be devastating for a man who can’t be who he really is. He may feel there’s too much at stake and that the powers that be have a lot stocked in him to come out. I say Dear John, it’s time! Your wife, family and trusted friends will support you!!
I would think the Beverly Hills Hotel has security cameras all over the place. If the incident did occur, there would probably be some photographic evidence that Travolta was at the hotel. I wonder if the plaintiff’s lawyer has any. (I’m not saying it did, or did not, occur — only that these days, there are cameras everywhere).
I like the conspiracy theories regarding the CO$ wanting to smear Travolta. However, I just read the First Amended Complaint and could barely get through reading it – not because of legalese (I’m a paralegal) but because it was chock full of typos and so poorly written! It was obviously written by a very budget attorney. I would think that CO$ could afford a better attorney than that. On the other hand, maybe that contributes to the conspiracy theory, in that they’re trying to make the Plaintiffs look more real by using such a low budget attorney. I just don’t know what to think, but that is one poorly written legal document, that’s for sure.
I know Marty Stinger is Travolta’s lawyer. But I’m betting the other side is an unknown, waiting to get the big get to make his rep.
No doubt! His name is Okorie Okorocha – he’s a budget harassment attorney. And he needs to learn to write!
This is complete heresay, but one of the guys at my gym said he was at the FontaineBleau, Miami with friends and Travolta propositioned two of his friends on two separate days. Apparently they were in the sauna and JT came in, sat close and began to nudge the men with his leg. He then dropped his towel, stood up, began to masterbate and asked “are you up for it?” According to the guy telling the story, both men proceeded to get up and leave without saying a word to JT.
This is why I hate cases like these… They’re hard enough to sort through with normal people, but when you throw in a celebrity? Suddenly the possibility rises that everyone & their uncle Pete once-removed are making claims.
It’s awful, because jumping on the bandwagon only causes doubt in cases that ARE legit…True victims become ‘gold-diggers’. Not only that, but obviously being accused while innocent (& having the WORLD watch) is terrible.
But that is NOT to say your friends weren’t telling the truth, it’s just that so many lie or exaggerate just for a pay-off, & to be associated with a celeb, no matter what the reason.
ITA. The guy telling me the story seemed credible, but I don’t know him outside of the gym and he could be a total lunatic in disguise. I thought it worth repeating here because it seemed just as plausable as the claims being made by the massage therapists.
I hope I didn’t come across as chastising you for your comment, because I definitely didn’t mean to!
I don’t think there’s *anything* wrong with your sharing the story that guy told you. If his story is BS, that’s on him, not you. It actually really contributes to the conversation, given how it’s different in one way (no masseuse involved) but still so similar (happening in a spa-setting) in another.
*shudder* Imagining ANY of those scenarios makes my skin crawl.
No worries. I didn’t take it that way at all 😃
I have to give a huge OH PLEASE to people claiming the Plaintiffs are COS. COS is protecting Travolta just as they have for decades. As Lainey said in her column today JT and Kelly will be audited and put forth a front that they are still a happy family. CO$$$ will intimidate and tarnish those Plaintiffs just you wait.
which ever way you look at it, co$ is screwing someone. [excuse my language].
Per all the rumours, JT appears to have been doing this for a long time but was protected by his celebrity, money and co$.
From his POV, it is immaterial whether the two victims are truthful or not, his career is over. he has been outed not so much as gay but as an agrressive sexual pervert. not sure any publicist can make the public forget that.
There was a case recently of a hollywood celeb who gave his civilian one night stand herpes. The victim sued without disclosing who the celeb was, and in the end he won [or case was settled, don’t remember which], so there is precedent for suing JT without naming him.
Case was settled. But we don’t know if the victim got the $10 million he/she was asking for… Or was it 20M?
But definitely settled. And victim was able to keep anonymity, as well as the star in question. It was brilliantly done and negotiated. But I believe the victim had video proof of the night in question.
i am not saying that it is impossible for members of the public to sue him, just that Co$ is very aggressive about protecting their own especially of his calibre.
so it seems shady that such a weak case can be brought against him when there are so many witnesses and spas that can substantiate his bad behaviour.
whoever is telling the truth, everyone but co$ is screwed. [excuse my language]
I too believe that Scientology is behind this. Travolta and his spa tryst have been an open secret for many years. Why now? Because I believe that Travolta is disillusioned by Scientology after his son Jett died and possibly wants out. They will not have it and will ruin him with these true allegations that have been kept secret for years. You are only as sick as your secrets, let it out John and let the chips fall where they may.
It is not an unlikely scenerio that his aggression has been escalating, and his sense of entitlement is now so prounounced that more and more massage therapists will be unwilling to let what is legally an assault go unpunished, regardless of the consequences.
It looks like both the public & legal system are conspiring to drag him out of the closet in handcuffs. (Pink fuzzy handcuffs >.> )
I hope it isn’t true, but honestly, there have just been too many similar incidents (which sort of paint a guilty portrait).
Well, maybe in their golden years they can come out (if they really are) and stop living a lie. My sister is a closeted gay woman, she is afraid to come out because my parents are very conservative. It really is a terrible way to live.
There is a huge difference between someone who is gay and someone who is gay, and takes advantage of his position and money to sexually assault men who are vulnerable.
For those men who have been assaulted, it is a terrible thing to go thru, and any man or woman who puts that on another person deserves to pay the consequences.
@MST – I can’t imagine what your sister has (& is) going through. I’ve had many gay friends who put themselves through *so* much just trying to hide who they really were. I really hope she finds herself at a point where she can be honest about herself soon. <3
Why isn’t the police involved?
If severaal women would have claimed that a guy have sexually assaulted them and exploited a situation in which they gave him a massage, then an investigation would have ensued.
Thia ia just wrong. You can’t get away with criminal acts, just because you are a famous actor with loads of money.
I wonder if Kelly is just a beard or did she actually thought she was in a real relationship and after she had the kids she realized what is really going on and stayed becuase “for the kids” and stability.
Are u kidding me? It happens all the time. A police complaint is often not pursued, if, for whatever small reason, the prosecution does not think they can win.
I’m sure many people have their own story, but when I was a teen I was raped during a date. It was before date rape was brought into the public eye. I was told point blank by the police that they could not do anything with my complaint. I don’t even think they believed me.
Their reasons: I was on a date, I invited him in, we were drinking, I hung out with a bad crowd (the same crowd as him), there was no physical injury (bruises), and, out of humiliation, I didn’t go to the police until 2 days later. Stupid, young, and naive yes, concentual no, a crime yes. He completely got away with it.
I can see how a similar scenerio could be painted by the police if they had a complaint by a massage therapist, especially if he wasn’t a registered therapist (a masseuse) or didn’t work at a posh hotel. Factor in to that equation, the fact that Travolta is a well known and respected actor who has money. How unrealistic is it to think such a complaint would not be pursued?
You are absolutely right. If this happened to women, people would be more in an uproar. Sexual harassment is disgusting no matter which gender is being affected. Maybe some of these male masseuse were sexually harmed as kids. I do believe more than two men will come forward with claims. I do believe JT is doing this to men. Maybe this harassment is bringing up bad memories for these men but they are too embarrassed to come forward. People who have been sexually assaulted before are prone to becoming numb to it and letting it happen to him because of dear.
Dude, you’re going down (and not in the way you like).
*SNORT* Nice. He can be sure to bring the aforementioned fuzzy handcuffs. Gotta go out in style, you know. xD
(I say these in jest, of course, but I gotta admit there’s a lot of ‘interesting’ incidents.
Once a sweathog always a sweathog.
his story reminds me of the hushed Merv Griffin sexual allegations against young males in the service industry.
Merv would grab, grope or try to demand a bj from from handsome young waitstaff. He was beligerent w/his as he got older.
“don’t you know I can make you?”
I read somewhere that Liberace was the same way.
Don’t forget his alleged rape of River Phoenix at one of his parties.
Wait, WHAT? More details,please.
And Ryan Seacrest’s facial scar (allegedly courtesy of Uncle Merv).
At one of his parties, young River Phoenix caught ol’ Perv’s eye. He got him drunk, then led him to a room so he can “help” him get better. Even though apparently River had rebuffed his advances previously, Merv got his way, forcefully, with a very drunken River.
The witness in question saw Merv coming out of the room with a smile on his face, while a dead drunk Phoenix passed away on the couch. The witness asked him “why did you do it Merv?”. Merv’s answer?
“He was just too pretty for his own good. I could not leave him alone”.
One cannot wonder why so many young promising stars sometimes fall so far into drug and alcohol abuse: they need to forget the horrors they, intentionally, and at times unintentionally, put themselves through, in the name of becoming a star.
River is only one of very many to have gone through “uncle Merv’s” hands.
If it is true he should be prosecuted and I hope more accusers come forward to bolster the claims. He must be stopped as it seems he is becoming more aggressive and things could be worse for future victims. A trial might caution other powerful celebrities from sexually harassing service workers.
I think this is bunch of bull, instigated by a pair of greedy gold diggers and their enabling ambulance chaser who sees the dollar sign left and right. Their stories sound sketchier than Lohan’s “I was home!” stories.
At the end of the day, I highly doubt this will go anywhere near a trial. If JT can’t get a summary judgment, he WILL settle because he doesn’t want to go through the discovery, where there’s a good chance that lots of his skeletons will come out.
The amount JT has to pay out will depend on whether any of the REAL abused will step forward as well. It’s very well plausible that this little fishing expedition by that ambulance chaser will yield a real catch here or there, instead of two gold diggers he’s got now. Then, JT very well may get bankrupted to keep this under wraps.
Wouldn’t it just be easier if he came out of the closet?? Then he wouldn’t be so repressed. He could get out of his fake marriage and wouldn’t have to troll bath houses and massage parlors at night for some action. I hate fake people!
sure…..
While that’s true, it’s understandable that he hesitates. Everyone has their personal reasons… Family, career, children.
I *still* rhink he needs to be bound in fuzzy hot pink handcuffs & dragged kicking & screaming… It really *seems* to be something that could improve his life..But it isn’t so simple. =<
This is sad.
Sexual harassment is wrong. Period. If Travolta did physically violate those two men, he should have to face the legal consequences as the rest of us would.
That being said, I don’t think Kelly Preston is some innocent angel. She’s the ultimate puppet master. She’s the one in bed with CO$, and keeping Travolta oppressed is all for her benefit.
I don’t think this has to do with coming out of the closet, because apparently he has been having very public sex at spas for years. This has to do with celebrity entitlement, like the Merv Griffin story, if true. It’s about a star getting their way for years and just assuming everyone around them exists to service their needs, willing or not. If it’s true, it’s criminal and he deserves to go to trial.
This is not sad, it is wrong.
I just finished ” The last take”, a book about Marilyn Monroe our Zelda recommended. At that time, studio bosses were above the law and treated people like sh+t. “This was the fifties, it’s over now.” Well, money still buys silence apparently. If it’s true, I consider JT’s actions like rapes. He FORCED himself over these men and has to be judged like any other rapist. I’m NOT tolerant AT ALL when it comes to sexual offences.
I have never believed the Craigslist guy. So much about it rang false. Craigslist masseur ads are prostitutes anyway. There are articles about crackdowns on Craigslist. I doubt this guy is some victim. I don’t believe John would be cruel and threatening. That part did not ring true. Sure enough. John has produced flight records and receipts. He was no where near this guy. It reminds me of the Bieber scam and the Al Gore scam. Both were proven to be a scam for money.