Kelsey Grammer refuses to say his ex wife Camille’s name, while he’s trashing her

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Oprah somehow thinks she has a big exclusive with her new Kelsey Grammer interview, even though he’s pretty much trashed his ex wife, Camille Grammer, at every turn in multiple interviews before. He’s also admitted to cheating on her a full six months before he bothered to break the news to her. Oprah did get the first sit down interview I’ve seen with Kelsey’s new wife, Kayte Walsh, a 32 year-old British former stewardess who just had the couple’s first child in July. Kayte was as defensive and meek-seeming as I expected her to be, although I definitely have a bias and have only seen segments of the interview. She seemed to defer to Kelsey frequently and not be sure of what to say.

Here are some quotes from the segments that have been released so far, thanks to Radar and The Daily Mail. The interview airs Sunday on OWN.

“Had you known that it was going to be as public and as much vitriol,” Oprah asked Kayte, “Would you still have stepped into this?”

“It’s OK to say you’re not sure,” the enigmatic Kelsey interjected, though Kayte was swift in her answer, saying she would have gotten involved with the veteran actor “because I love him.

The former flight attendant, who met her now-husband working a Los Angeles to London flight, said the hardest part of her marriage to the 57-year-old Cheers star is people judging her “and not knowing anything about the truth … just marriage is hard, generally.”

Asked if she was aware of Kelsey’s presence on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, she said she understood that Kelsey had given it to Camille as a way to soften the rough end of their crumbling marriage.

“I mentioned I was doing that as a going-away present,” the Boss star interjected.

“I don’t know — I think the more you’re with someone and you fall in love with them, you say, ‘How could I have been in this situation?” Kayte wondered aloud. “How could he have done a reality show when he was saying he loved me and all this stuff?” – From Radar


Kelsey, who refused to utter Camille’s name, revealed that – for him – the 13 year marriage was over before it even started, telling Oprah he remained out of duty to the former Playboy model.

‘I stayed because I’m a stubborn cuss. I was not in it, or happy in it for a long time. It was pretty much over as soon as it began,’ Kelsey said.
While he refused to say her name, the actor didn’t hold back when it came to his ill feelings toward Camille.

‘She always wanted to be famous,’ Kelsey said before admitting he helped her secure a role on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

‘I did believe that I owed something to that person,’ he added about his appearances on the Bravo reality show adding, ‘that I owed fame.’

The actor and producer then sarcastically remarked: ‘Because she’d given up so much to endure this life with me.’ – From The Daily Mail

[From Radar and The Daily Mail]

Camille is the mother of two of Kelsey’s children, and all he can manage to call her is “that person.” He’s ridiculous. As I’ve mentioned before, he made Camille go with him to the Tonys in 2010, we saw it on RHOBH, even though he had been with Kayte for around six months at that point. So he had no problem using Camille when he needed to, and then discarding her afterwards. I’m not saying that Camille is a saint or that Kelsey should have stayed if he was so unhappy, but he was with her for 13 freaking years. If he was miserable the whole time and never had the balls to tell her or to do something about it, that’s his problem.

In response, Camille took the high road and simply said “I wish [Kelsey] no ill will and I have moved on.” It certainly doesn’t sound like Kelsey has moved on – he still can’t even say Camille’s name, like she’s Voldemort or something.

Here are some segments from the interview. There are more clips on YouTube, including Kelsey discussing his tragic family history.

Kelsey on the end of his relationship with Camille. He denies he’s a cross-dresser but says he’s “very sexually adventurous.” He explains staying in his marriage as a “sentence,” like a jail sentence.

Kayte on how people judge her.

Kelsey on how he “owed fame” to Camille.

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Camille Grammer

Kelsey is shown on 8-20-12 outside The Late Show and on 8-25-12 with his youngest kids. He’s shown with Kayte in January. Camille is shown on 7-21-12. Credit: WENN.com and FameFlynet

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  1. valleymiss says:

    Kelsey is that guy who always seems to worship whatever wife he’s with…until it goes south. Then he’s all about trashing her and saying that he was never happy, blah blah. And yeah, it IS his problem that he didn’t speak up and leave earlier. He’s such a weakling that it took an affair with another woman to spur him into action. Pathetic.

    And it’ll be really lovely when his kids catch wind of this interview, pretty much negating any feeling they have that their parents were once happy together. My god, Kelsey, how are they supposed to feel about this interview and your “It was over right after it began” sentiment? They were BORN during and after all of that, you know. Jeez, what a blockheaded JERK.

  2. Shitler says:

    What a bunch of morons.
    Take a good look at Camille, Kayte. That’s the ghost of your future. I get the feeling this fool gets rid of his wives once they stop being deferential & in awe of him

  3. assistantrachel says:

    What a douche.

  4. daisydoodle says:

    it’s one thing to get out of your marriage, but everytime you say something bad about the ex you’re “dissing” the children’s mother…bad form Kelsey

  5. Jackie O says:

    if i were the new wife, who had just given birth, and my husband could not stop discussing his ex wife publicly, i would be greatly concerned.

    i also love how he always feels sorry for himself. he is always the victim.

    king of the douches.

    • Genevieve says:

      +1.

      He has always struck me as an egotistical, sanctimonious douche.

      This is when I start to feel old…I remember about 15 yrs. ago (?) when there was a huge spread in In Style Magazine covering K & C’s wedding. After that, various stories would pop up about how Camille was such a “diamond in the rough” and how Kelsey was always trying to “polish up her rough edges”. Friends of K’s were always cited, so that’s clearly the image that K wanted the public to have of her. WTF is wrong with a guy who obviously wanted to portray his WIFE in that light- pretty much from day one? Why even marry her if that’s how he truly viewed her?

      Sleazy.

  6. Katren says:

    He’s a selfish creep!

  7. LeslieM says:

    I love him! Fraiser is the best show ever put on television. I also married someone and it was over before it started because he treated me terribly. This was bound to happen, it just does, every time. I am so glad he is happy. When spouses hurt you all the time nature intervenes and gives you another chance. I would never cheat on my husband now. We’ve been married 20 years and he has never mentally abused me. It is a real marriage. His obviously was not.

    • Bengalcat2000 says:

      ITA. I honestly don’t care what he does in his personal life. So he acted like a douche. BFD, so does the rest of Hollywood. And dude has had some serious tragedies in his life. Not making excuses, he should keep is mouth shut for the sake of his children, but I wish him much happiness.

    • JudyK says:

      I agree that FRASIER was the best comedy series ever on t.v. due to a stellar, perfectly-matched cast. I just adore David Hyde-Pierce, and Kelsey Grammer is no doubt a genius with perfect timing.

      Aside from that, I agree that Kelsey has major emotional issues and not saying Camille’s name is beyond absurd and just plain childish. This interview was very passive-aggressive and manipulative on his part. Yes, Kelsey, even we average people can see through that self-serving, pious interview.

      Hope this is the final marriage and that they can both be happy and that, for the sake of his children, he can start acting like a grown-up.

    • D says:

      Seriously? How the heck do you know anything about what went on behind their closed doors? I could are less about either of them but it sounds like you are projecting your crappy marriage into his former marriage. No one knows what really went on but them, just as in your situation. I feel certain they are both pretty high maintenance. Glad you are happy now, we all deserve that!

  8. SleepyJane says:

    Cue all the comments about how Camille is so much prettier than the new wife…because that’s all that’s important in these situations. Ugh.

    • RHONYC says:

      kinda weird that ‘you’ are the only one who has commented such.
      :lol:

    • Canda says:

      The new wife is obviously younger than the ex wife, but that’s pretty par for the course with old guys who need to trade in for a newer model every so often.

      Kate is REALLY hard to understand when she speaks, however. It’s like her jaw doesn’t move, just her lower lip, and she never seems to open her teeth. How annoying.

  9. Krock says:

    What a pig. HE still has children with her. Does he really think its a good idea to be so mean and disgusting to their mother?

    Besides, HE is the one that cheated on HER! So why be so vulgar? Big dumb douche bag. I can’t wait until he new young bride leaves his old ugly ass and takes all his money. Jerk off!

    • DreamyK says:

      I’ll always remember him as the desperate alcoholic and drug addict that Kristie Alley testified for because he tried to weasel his way out of jail time.

      http://articles.latimes.com/1990-05-17/local/me-412_1_kelsey-grammer

      He’s vile. I have no idea why any woman would want to get with this freak, let alone bear his children. blech.

    • stinky says:

      i didnt hear anything bad. whats everyone going on about. hes being interviewed, questons are being asked, and he’s answering in what sounds to be a pretty honest way – wtf.
      people break up all the time, and sorry – but they DONT DO IT THE “RIGHT” way. NO ONE jumps ship w/o another ship there lingering. seriously. no one does.

  10. Stellax2 says:

    I saw a few snippets of this interview. He is a certified douche bag. He has no shame or remorse. I feel sorry for his kids.
    As far as Kayte goes, she’s made her bed and now she has to lay in it.
    I saw an interview with Kelsey and Matt Lauer. Kelsey claims he wants more kids. He needs a reality check.
    He’s very haughty and seemingly self-serving.

  11. B says:

    Unlike his Frasier character, he doesn’t have an ounce of class.

  12. Blue says:

    Ugh he makes me so mad I can’t even type everything I want to type.

  13. Cam S says:

    Is it just me or does his new wife look like a real life cartoon caricature of herself?
    I think he’s mad at Camille for not going along with his kinky sex acts. I saw their wedding rehearsal televised back in the day. My memory from it was that he brushed hair away from Camille’s face and I thought it was so tender. But then again, he IS an actor.
    I also saw him on Oprah in the 90′s with YET another wife, exclaiming his love for HER. How many times has this douche been married?

  14. Jill says:

    Wow, in the pic on the sidewalk of him with his kids with Camille you can see the striking resemblance the kids have to their mother. They really have her eyes, etc…

  15. Starsky says:

    He’s gross and she seems naive/immature but I won’t feel sorry for her when he has a second “awakening”/epiphany and falls in “love” with the next flight attendant.

    Kayte has the Leann Rimes “you don’t know MY truth” schtick going on.

  16. Janet says:

    Pathetic little worm…

  17. putchka says:

    Let’s be real here. Camille was a 2 bit stripper when she met this douche. He was an alcoholic, drug addled,famous,rich easy mark. Just like he is now. I got pissed off when Camille said to someone “Where did she get those shoes, Payless?” Girl couldn’t even afford those when she was 20 years old. They deserve each other. Poor kids… FUKUP parents, narccisim at it’s worst.

    • Anonymei says:

      My thoughts exactly. Water seeks its own level. Kelsey and Camille were 2 peas in a pod. She thought she was superior because of who she married. Karma is the b* that bit her and brought her back to reality.

  18. The Original Mia says:

    Kayte is a fool, but she made her bed. I hope she knows that Kelsey doesn’t love anyone as much as he loves himself.

    Camille has her issues, but she’s no where near his level of unpleasantness.

    I feel for all of his children having this narcissist as their father.

  19. Ri says:

    “Poor” Katye is the future Camille. Somebody needs to warn her…or not.

  20. Cathy says:

    I never realized until now what a funny shaped head he has. It seems oblong, like it was squooshed when he was being popped out the old birth canal and it stayed that shape.

  21. TheOriginalKitten says:

    God this guy is a douche of epic proportions. Yeah we’re all supposed to feel sorry for you because you married and divorced a famewhore?

    That’s what you get when you go to the Playboy Mansion looking for a wife, you effin’ toolshed.

  22. liteNOTSObrite says:

    Mr Lite doesn’t even follow any of this gossip nonsense and he called bullshit during Kelsey’s interview.

  23. dorothy says:

    What a sleeze. It’s over, your happy now, Camilla’s happy now. Why would you continue to carry on with telling the world how unhappy you were back then? Watch out Kayte, your next.

  24. putchka says:

    One more thing, I spelled narcissist wrong but my point is,she insulted her audience when she put down “Payless”. All the hard working mothers and fathers who don’t pimp themselves out for money. Hey if you want to strip, OK. Don’t sneer down at people who do real work for a living. Ms. ‘Can’t have children cause I’ve got an ass problem’ or more honestly ‘I won’t carry children cause it will ruin my body and that’s the only thing I got’.I guess I’m in a bad mood today…

  25. yellowshaba says:

    Wow douche, just wow…

  26. RobN says:

    Well, I for one hope this turns out well. I think he’s had a weird life that probably would have screwed up most of us, some of it his own doing, a lot of it wasn’t.

    Camille has clearly gotten herself a much better PR agent, but let’s not forget what an incredibly high maintenance pain in the ass she was before she decided wronged wife and devoted mother was a better look for her.

  27. shannon says:

    Gross. Just gross and disrespectful, to call the other parent of your children “that person.” If it was like, Susan Smith’s ex-husband, I could understand. But this guy is just a trash-act. And I used to really like watching re-runs of ‘Frasier’ :(

  28. claire says:

    Gross. What a pig. Great actor, had some great shows, but in real life, just a nasty person.

  29. Isa says:

    I had no idea about his past. That’s horrible. And his new wife having a miscarriage and then get pregnant with twins, only to have one of them die.
    That’s all just so sad.

  30. G says:

    Well he sure is nothing like the characters he plays…what a jerk. :(

  31. KellyinSeattle says:

    He thinks he is so “it”. He was great on Frasier thanks to a great supporting cast, but he’s now not a big superstar. “Not relevent anymore”….Reminds me of Friends…one person makes a fool out of the whole cast , in a way (can’t stand that show)….Kelsey ruins the memory of his show for the others….that’s all.

  32. TheTruthHurts says:

    He is a great actor, but what an asshole of a human being.

  33. D says:

    I bothers me to think that is children, that he supposedly loves, would publically TRASH the mother that they love. That will come back and bite him in the rear end someday and someday always comes!!!

  34. D says:

    Typing way too fast but you know what I mean! :\

  35. Kristen says:

    I saw the whole Oprah interview and I also happened to have been following the whole Camille/Kelsey break-down on RHOBH.

    On RHOBH, Camille made it seem like she was totally blind-sided and very much played a victim role. Kelsey came across as a cold, withholding person and we come to find he’s cheating on her.

    Well, on the Oprah interview, he said that the night before he met Kayte, he was on the phone with Camille for HOURS coaching her on how to get a guy interested in her. He said this had been going on for months or years, I can’t remember.

    I think Kelsey is a narcissist and I think Camille is a vapid manipulator. Not impressed with either. But I kind of believe Kelsey when he said that it was way over before all that and that Camille MORE than knew it. Of course she’s going to pretend she didn’t – it only can make her a more ‘sympathetic character.’

    I thought the other interesting thing was that Kayte made some mention of how “marriage is hard.” My thought was – already? UH OH.

    Kelsey Grammar is the next Liz Taylor. Diamonds perfume and all.

  36. pau says:

    I think his flip-side is very transparent…he has a very obvious nasty side to himself. To be honnest, it seemed like Oprah didn’t take to him to well either…it seemed like his demeanor, and his way of laughing off deep topics is evident of someone who is living very much on the surface

  37. Chris says:

    Let’s just put it out there. He’s never really gotten over Diane.

  38. Linda says:

    I’m quite sure he’s just like his character in Boss in many ways. Yuk.

  39. alxandra says:

    How come no one has mentioned the Nick comment?
    Kelsey said that five years ago he was helping Camille writing hook up emails for Nick, or something like that. Also Camille said once that she Katye had to get in vitro because Kelsy can’t. I think goes both ways for these two. Regardless, the guy is a pretty awesome actor

  40. skuddles says:

    Hope you’re taking notes Kayte. Chances are he’ll do the exact same thing to you one day… once he’s off with wife # whateverthellmanyitis.

  41. erika says:

    uhmmm you’re gross mr grammar…