I watched most of yesterday’s Lohan-centric episode of Dr. Phil. It was pretty awful, but the vibe was different than the crack-drama-tastic promo we watched last week. When you sit there and watch Dina for minutes at a time, you realize how screwed up she was and is. When I say “screwed up” I mean, yes, she has mental health issues and issues in general, and I also mean “screwed up” as in “she was high and/or drunk”. Vulture and TMZ have some slices from the (surprisingly extensive) interview:
Believe it or not, this wasn’t the low point of the interview. This was actually Dina being somewhat coherent. She got worse as the interview progressed, and what struck me most of all is that Dina is a really bad liar. Like, she doesn’t have a “poker face”. When she lies or deflects and simply acts crackie to avoid answering a direct question, it’s really obvious what she’s doing. But you know the most shocking part? Dr. Phil did a video link-up interview with Michael Lohan, and I swear to God, I think I ended up agreeing with The Vagina-Kicker about more than half of his answers. Like, Michael did an armchair diagnosis of Dina, saying that in his opinion, she’s mixing sedatives with alcohol, and that she’s the one who desperately needs to be in rehab. I mean, I get it, he’s still an abuser and an awful human being. But so is Dina, so where does that leave us?
Other highlights (if you want to call them that)… when Dr. Phil was showing Dina the list of Lindsay’s crack scandals and legal scrapes, Dina said, “I know but, we’re in LA, so… If she was living in New York, five of them would be obsolete.” Dr. Phil responds, “You’re missing the point.” And Dina hedges, “I understand that demise. But…you’re under a microscope here. In New York it’s not like that.” I also found it interesting that Michael Lohan sent a number of allegations to Dr. Phil, which Dr. Phil then read off to Dina, and she crack-lied and deflected and refused to answer all of them, including questions about how she had allegedly out-right stolen thousands of dollars from Lindsay, and how Dina was still getting 20% from all of Lindsay’s work, and how Lindsay is the cash-cow supporting her entire crackie family.
In the end, it was just sad. I guess I was expecting that. I don’t actually feel bad for any of the Lohans, except Lindsay’s younger siblings, I guess. But other than that, I have to admit: Michael Lohan is right, and Dina needs some kind of intervention. Mother Crackie is a f—king mess.
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I really feel sorry for Ali, I hope she will manage to escape from all of them.
Yeah, me too. Crackie and Mother Crackie already have their paws on Cody, the younger brother, and rumours are they are going to turn him into a male prostitute for some rich, sick man.
I really wonder what is Ali doing in Asia: they said it was “modeling” but you know… maybe Mother Crackie sold her off as a sex slave after all.
Dina is disgusting.
Ali, if your alive and can send a message out, reassure us that you’re well, please.
Also: “You’re under a microscope here. In New York it’s not like that”. Meaning what, that Lilo can do drugs, drive under the influence and prostitute herself without being caught?! EW.
Exactly!!! Yes please Ali escape. Hey instead of “Free Winona” we need “Free Ali and Cody” shirts!
Regarding Ali in Asia: I’ve been reading this book called People Who Eat Darkness. It’s about a serial rapist/murderer in Japan who targeted “hostesses,” attractive young foreign (mostly Western) women who are hired by hostess bars to circulate and chat up men at their tables. The (wealthy) men pay fees based on the time the women spend at their tables. The women aren’t prostitutes, per se, and sex is not a part of the picture in these bars. However, the women are expected to convince the men to occasionally take them out to dinner for money, after which they are encouraged to bring the men back to the bar. The serial killer, Joji Obara, convinced one young UK woman, Lucie Blackman, to accompany him to his apartment at the seashore, where he later raped and murdered her.
Anyway, when I read the bit about Ali, I wondered if this same sort of gig is what Dina’s had the girls doing over the years. It’s a sketchy arrangement from the get-go, but I could see the family convincing themselves that it isn’t prostitution, which it technically isn’t…until the pressure’s on from the man, the money needs are dire, and it suddenly is. Or something worse. 🙁
I worked with a woman years ago who went to Japan to model. She was a model who wasn’t runaway or really magazine “worthy” for lack of a better word. Anyway – her agency sent her over there. Japan likes to use N.A. women on their products so there’s lots of work available apparently. She wasn’t involved in anything hinky to my knowledge and she did get some work while over there. It’s to try and build a portfolio but it’s really for people who will be doing catalogue work, not the prime stuff.
SHE is the one that asked for the “Session”. She was expecting a sit down “interview” thinking she would control the situation w/ lil sound bites. She was flustered because what she got was a real “therapy session” w/ normal questions asked in a true session. Those weren’t even the hard down deep therapy questions… And she showed her true colors w/ Dr. Phil calling her out on it. She was wanting an “interview”. Wrong show for that. Didn’t care for him before…but he was pretty quick yesterday to call it as it was.
A big WOOPs! Sorry sweetie iPad issues hit wrong reply key!:)
I think it’s too late. Isn’t she already turning tricks overseas? I thought for a nanosecond that she maybe went to rehab (for a hot minute) for an eating disorder – but then I remembered Lohans only do court-ordered rehabs.
Wow, I had not heard the rumours of Ali being in Asia. It makes me incredibly sad if it’s true they are already trying to prostitute her out. What a f*ck*ng sick family. Disgusting, despicable losers! If I had the kinds of issues Lindsay has, my own mother would be doing everything in her power to help me. Unlike Dina who is doing everything she can to enable Lindsay, and then feed off of her. Sick sick sick.
I agree with ‘Moo’. Shows like Dr.Phil definitely appear to be taking advantage of ‘situations/conditions’ of guests. What really bothers me is that Dr.Phil is a psychologist who is suppose to care about healing people. Dina needs healing just as much as her daughter. Why set her up for failure, embarrassment, humiliation and lower her self esteem lower than it already is. Not nice Dr.Phil!
She’s clearly drunk and crazy, but damn, Dr. Phil- he’s really pushing her and she’s really, really, really uncomfortable talking about her abuse. I get that.
Ugh Dr. Phil, you just made me sympathize with Dina effin Lohan. Shame on you.
edit: Second viewing. This terrible b**ch is lying about her emotions. What a freaking phony. I am mad that I even empathized with her for a minute.
@ cmc: Really? I don’t think he was pushing her AT ALL. He was asking a GROWN ADULT very simple questions and he asked them in a very calm and understanding manner. To me, it seemed he was using kid gloves when he spoke to her.
I would have jumped up and shook her cause she was working my nerves just listening to a minute of her delusional crack talk.
Edit: Just saw your edit 🙂
Ok finally right feed lol, iPad issues this morning.
SHE is the one that asked for the “Session”. She was expecting a sit down “interview” thinking she would control the situation w/ lil sound bites. She was flustered because what she got was a real “therapy session” w/ normal questions asked in a true session. Those weren’t even the hard down deep therapy questions… And she showed her true colors w/ Dr. Phil calling her out on it. She was wanting an “interview”. Wrong show for that. Didn’t care for him before…but he was pretty quick yesterday to call it as it was.
Part of me believes this is all a ruse to take attention away from Crackie because she messed up again. She has been keeping a low profile while in NY. And how many times can Crackie’s publicist keep running the, “she’s on a comeback” story line? It’s been what, 5 years now? This family is just as pathetic as the KarTRASHians.
Say what you want about the Kardashians, and believe me, I say plenty, but no one’s in jail, no one’s driving drunk, no one (except Scott) is on drugs, everyone shows up where they are supposed to show up and does exactly what E pays them to do. I don’t agree with the fact that we support them as entertainers, but we, consumers, made that decision, and the Kardashians are handling it like true professionals. All the stories about the starlets not showing up, or showing up bombed, or stealing, or refusing to work once they arrive-you never hear it about the Kardashians. I cannot stand them, but that family communicates, they are committed to their brand, and they stay on point.
And I cannot believe I just defended the Kardashians. I’m going to hit the decontamination chambers now.
I can’t believe I’m defending them either… but you’re right. When Kim says she doesn’t drink I believe her, and the few times you see the other girls drinking, it always seems like they’re having what’s tantamount to good clean fun.
I feel like I need a shower.
EDIT: I just remembered that years ago, Khloe got a DUI. She also REALLY earnestly apologized and admitted she screwed up and swore to never do it again… and hasn’t. Damnit, Kardashians.
Diddo Shame on you! Not impressed with your tactics!
you could have left ‘or’ out of the heading
Exactly! She is Crackie’s mother after all!
Absolutely!… I read an article in the NY Daily News about Dina recently celebrating her 50th birthday in NY with Lindsay and they were both boozing it up. And Dina claims that Lindsay wouldn’t be in so much trouble if she had been close to her in NY? Right.
Drug problem or not, she is a disgusting human being.
True. And it totally pissed me off that she made me agree with Michael AND Dr. Phil. That’s when you should KNOW you have failed at life.
yea, you know her interview went terrible when Michael Lohan looks like the “good one”
Okay, I NEED to see the full episode now. Dina probably started her day with a handle of gin and is so coked up she hasn’t felt her face in a week. I can’t believe Michael Lohan is turning out to be the “better” parent in the long run!
Well yeah..until you see the end of the interview where Michael has a love child with another woman, whom he has never taken responsibility for. She is 17 and looks JUST like him. Talk about a family with issues…no telling what all else we dont know about them. How could we handle any more?
I think the reason he appears to be the better parent at this point is because their contact is so limited. The love-child he’s never claimed is probably best-off.
Damn you Dina Lohan for making me co-sign both Michael and Dr. Phil. It’s a dark day…
Choosing between Michael Lohan or Dina Lohan is like choosing between a fishing hook in the eye or bamboo skewers under toenails. You’re screwed either way.
I found the love child bit confusing. As I recall, the mother didn’t actually tell him until the girl was about 13 and he said it was definitely possible but a paternity test was necessary. My deadbeat dad never paid any child support and he definitely knew about us from conception (well, since his wife’s first missed period at least). But I would never have gone on national tv to make sure he knew I didn’t want anything to do with him except to take a pile of money. Geez, write a letter. (I just got my older brother to tell him I was done with him, at age 14. Excellent decision.)
“so coked up she hasn’t felt her face in a week”
Too funny, LMFAO!!!
What I don’t get is this. So Michael has abused them. He is this horrible man as per Dina, the kids and Kate Major. Yet Dina can’t give real instances of the abuse, Kate Major after having a restraining order against him is now having his baby and Lindsay after getting arrested on this latest incident asked her assistant to call her father!! He has been sober for 5-6 years. Not once has anyone disputed that, because it’s true. I’m not saying he is an exemplary father, I just don’t think he’s as bad as they make him out to be. Lindsay calls for her father when she’s scared and to her mother when she wants to party.
None of the kids really had a chance, did they? They would have been better off raised by wolves.
+1
Who knew that glib Creepy bastatrd was THE sane Parent?!?
I mean it was Horrific, for one she sounded an acted and had mannerisms like … She was trying to BE her daughter BUT in arrested Development state, Like a Teenage Starlet asking about her light and “are we rolling” like she is sophisticated or something!! It was Fucknuts!
Horror Moments:
Her Ridiculous hair to match her dress
Trying to Pound Dr. Phil
Talking over him, the excuses
The random buzzy meaningless words (that IS embarrasing, when Dr. Phil calls you Ignorant)
I wonder if Eyes For Lies should break this mess down on er blog but is pretty clear these people are straight up assholes
“feels like we’re on a date”
yes!!!!
OMG! Hundred & I were watching it yesterday saying the exact thing. What a messed up family when the abuser/ drug user was the sane one. Don’t know how he is now w/ drugs & alcohol. Says he is clean. If so good for him, if not, at least he’s got enough sense not before going on national television. Not that it’s a good thing, but she’s just a complete older version of Lindsay!
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The fist pound was mind boggling. I worked out early so I could watch the whole thing. I laughed me ass off. Crackstravaganza!
Michael Lohan is the more normal, honest and sane one! He answered all his questions while maintaining eye contact, unlike mama Cracken. She is a pathetic excuse for a human, denial, delusion, excuses, wrong words! Has she ever met a dictionary? Inept cells phones? I have seen that demise?
Totally was worth moving my workout to watch every deluded and epic second. She looked worse on the full show than the clips! I will never feel sorry for a Lohan. They make honey boo boos family look positively fantastic!
Epic! Hey, are we rolling?
I wonder if I can watch it on demand?
Dina Lohan, erudite wordsmith, shrewd business woman and wonderful mother!
And don’t forget fine humanitarian Mort. She was in attendance at a charity function earlier in the year.. okay, so she skipped out on the $2,500 bar tab, but she was THERE and that’s what really counts right?? 😀
Skuddles, the woman is nothing short of a saint! Who do I speak to about canonization?
I love that he called her out for using “big” words in the wrong context. So damn funny and spot on.
That was the best! “Inept doesn’t work in that sentence” – Dr. Phil. “Not necessarily.” – Dina Lohan.
I never watch that show but I watched this and I kept thinking Dr. Phil’s internal dialogue must’ve been hilarious.
Haha that was pretty great. He didnt hold back one bit. So funny!!
I watched it and needed a flea bath after. First time seeing Dr. Phil and he is loathsome. Dina didn’t get called on half her shit and he didn’t push her at all. He was too busy promoting himself and his ridiculous theories. This man is a real doctor????
And Dina was disappointing. She didn’t say ‘Lindsay’s just a little girl!’ once. The funniest part was the part she filmed while sober which was basically telling her life story. that was some funny shit!
*shakes head in disgust* Lindsay has to be humiliated by her mother going on TV & failing so hard in this interview. She’s such an idiot, She manages to make Lindsay look even worse, if that were possible.
& Who the F-blames the state they’re in for their criminal record? That’s like saying “Well, I wouldn’t have gotten in trouble for stealing if no one saw me! It’s *their* fault I got in trouble!”
How can she even say she wasn’t drunk/high/on pills? That was the worst.
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree does it? This is why Lindsay is so mixed up and it isn’t in Dina’s interest if she is raking in the cash for her to truly get better. Dina is most certainly, drunk and/or on something. Besides ruin her kid’s lives what does she do?
The rotten apple doesn’t fall far from the diseased tree, no. & when it falls, it hits the ground hard…
And splits open to reveal the rotted insides, then the flies come.
Apt description.
Isn’t there a younger brother? Who is parenting that kid? i know Lindsay is an adult now,and needs to take responsibility for her actions, but she really got dealt a shitty hand with these parents.
There have been pics of him and Lindsay together (going on big spending sprees) in LA. He doesn’t stand a chance.
That poor kid. Hopefully he can overcome both nature and nurture.
A lot of people are dealt crappy hands and they don’t have the money Lindsay had/has to help them. At some point you have to take responsibility for your own actions. Lindsay likes to blame others. She needs to go somewhere and keep out of the spot light and find out who she really is and not who others think she is.
Lindsay is the oldest of four – 1 sister and 2 brothers. Poor kids. Hope they can become success stories!
I dunno, I am actually less outraged than some. She clearly deflected and shut down. She wasn’t a crackie or drunk to me…she is just simply someone so very uncomfortable in her own skin, who knows she is lying and is unable to help herself. She’s an emotional cripple as the saying gos.
She’s in deep denial and I actually do feel sorry for her. Even more so because people are trying to treat and hold her accountable as they would a healthy sane individual.
She isn’t. And by hammering at her and judging harshly, it’s akin in my mind to poking fun at disabled people.
It was all very grotesque and I would rather see her get true professional help off camera. In fact, that entire family could use a good dose of it!
It all just comes across as excuses where Dina is concerned. Not saying she doesn’t have problems of any kind, I don’t know. But it surely doesn’t excuse all the things she’s done over the years.
I feel like giving her a health problem to fall back on would be like giving her a crutch to lean on every time she does/did something wrong. Just my opinion, of course.
I agree… Giving her excuses just enables her to act like she does. She clearly has problems (psychological, ethical, drug, alcohol???) and has to be confronted and held accountable for her actions. Yes, she is traumatized and had an asshole husband, but bottom line, she has done this to herself instead of using healthy coping mechanisms for her issues.
She asked for the session, she was expecting to control an “interview”. You don’t call a therapist for an interview…nor do you call him for a public interview if your uncomfortable in your own skin & can’t face the road you have been on. I have faced my demons & abusers, I have given public interviews & didn’t need a crutch (booze & pills). Before I had come to terms w/ what I grew up w/ & lived thru in my first marriage no way in hell did I tell my closest friends yet alone think to call anyone to speak about it publicly. So I agree w/ Dr. Phil, she thought it was going to be a celebrity type interview and she talk about Lindsay. I don’t feel bad for her because you don’t set up a public National Televised Session w/ a Therapist for a television interview unless your ready to talk about yourself. As a medical professional SHE is the one in front of him for the session, not Lindsay. Any half intelligent adult would know She would be the one discussed not Lindsay. She couldn’t manipulate the situation & it showed…badly.
I found it both fascinating and horrifying how she managed to escape answering almost all of the questions. She was completely unable to cite any examples of abuse, and it clearly had nothing to do with having suffered any severe trauma. I’ve never seen a public figure who suffered abuse appear in public and then refuse to talk about it AT ALL, after stating that it was their goal to help others in similar situations.
What was even more disturbing was watching her use the exact same verbal machinations as her daughter to avoid directly stating any real, identifiable facts about her life. She’s clearly making it up as she goes along.
What a horrible, awful liar. And what a kiss ass Dr. Phil was. I’ve never watched that show before and never will again.
Hi, Betty Ford? LAPD. We’re sending over Dina Lohan. We don’t know what the exact substance of abuse is, but the bitch just tried to pound Dr. Phil. See you in 5.
Love it!!!
Does anyone know where I can watch this? I’m in England and I really really really want to watch this train wreck.
My husband and I watched this together and it just made us sad. This woman has something wrong with her and it’s really no wonder her daughter is also a hot mess.
I totally agree and that’s from only watching the videos that have been linked here. There’s a point where I hold LL responsible for the s**t she’s pulled but with these 2 for parents she never really had much of a chance
Hubby & I said the same thing about Lindsay…poor kid didn’t stand a chance. Sad thing is adult Lindsay is still under her thumb so to speak so she will never see the mess her life is, not as long as her Mom is in denial also. Some serious mental issues in that family.
After watching Dina, for the first time in my life, I had a slight feeling of empathy for Lindsay.
That was hard to watch.
Oh I MADE the time to watch this episode live. I was lookong forward to it more than the premiere of New Girl. It was so bad. And by bad I mean awesome.
Dina was high/drunk, and I think part of her was attempting to act like a delicate victim, and another part of her was trying to charm Dr. Phil into being on her side. She failed.
I honestly thought he could’ve done a better job about teasing out information. It’s hard to follow her crack logic, but he didn’t even try very hard, so it wasn’t a gloriously long interview.
Still, it was performance art. Fist bump? Oh, no?
Dead on + 1, how I see it.
I felt like I was watching a 15 yr old defensive girl and not a 50 year old mother. The hair, the finger, the hand bump, the vocabulary…. very uncomfortable to watch. It made me feel sorry for the kids.
I don’t think Phil should have aired this. If he really wanted to help he would have offered rehab and killed the interview. She obviously doesn’t know what a mess she is, but he is the “professional.”
I suspect her problems can’t be cured by therapy. It would be pointless. Rehab for her alcohol and drug use might help a little if she were serious about getting off the stuff (unlikely) but I wouldn’t expect big changes. She is who she is.
I agree with everything said. I watched this and GOOD GOD was it annoying to hear her interrupt EVERY F*CKING THING that he said.
Oh and, what was with Michael Lohan saying “do you want my opinion as a trained drug interventionist?” ….WTF?
When is that asshole going to realize that NO ONE wants his opinion on anything?
Haha yeah that was funny
The fucq? I trained drug interventionist? More like a seasoned drug abuser!
Mort – for realz
At the direct second Dr. Phil came on with the preview of the show it started raining harder than hell here and my directv went out and was out the entire show so I haven’t been able to watch it. I was so pissed but now I am thinkig it was a message that I wasn’t suppose to see it.
She jumped around like a rat that needed a fix. Babbled like a idiot about his shoes and are they friends now?! Just a total train wreck..
WHOA WHOA WHOA
Please do not say that Michael Lohan is the “sane” one here!!! Obviously both parents have major problems. However, abusive males can be very charming, come off very well in public, can seem very sane and rational…I know this from experience! There are men who can convince the world that they are so sane, and are just trying to do what is best for their family. The man did 10 years in prison, I am NOT going to cosign a word he says.
That was not in defense of any Lohans, that was just in defense of all abuse victims whose abusers could easily go on Dr. Phil and appear to be “the sane one.”
+1
Passive Aggressive men can be cruel in private and come off Mr. Great in publis. It is part of the sick manipulation.
So true.
Thank you.
I agree.
I think Michael has used and continues to use Lindsay as much as Dina. The difference is that Michael is smarter and has more understanding of public perception. Thus, he tends to come across better than Dina does, at least to the casual observer.
Relatives need to step in and get custody of Ali and Cody. They clearly have a very dim future ahead with this woman as their mother.
Was she on drugs or is she just a crack-liar?
Both.
Lindsay looks horrible in this picture:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/lindsay-lohan-toasts-dina-50th-birthday-bash-long-island-dad-blues-booze-ar
She thought she could giggle and flirt and come off as a great person I guess. Fail.
She’s sharp on talking points fact.. mindlessly ignoring much on reality, aware of her thankless fate.. Brain is fried from abuse.. and she is coping with whatever makes her tolerant and somewhat stable to work.. And it is living hell stuck in this robotic mother, counselor, manager mode until she gets enough money stowed away to tell her dependents to go to.. #%@! scram.. If she lives that long..
Bloody hell. That was rough. He was being a bit of a dick though, he could have thrown her a line. I think she would have settled down a bit and they would have gotten somewhere. She sounded just like an addict being confronted though… like a teenage one.
I saw it differently. I saw him throwing her line after line, attempting to get SOMETHING out her; even going so far as to soothe her and tell her she’s not a bad person or mother. When she couldn’t cite any specific examples of abuse, for instance, he fed her some story about Michael breaking into the house. He bent over backwards to the point of obsequiousness at the end of the interview.
She’s bad and the ex is worse. He is a fame ho mess and he and his drunk girlfriend are always in the press filing something against each other and now he knocked her up. They guy never works.
The mom is a mess, but she is the one raising the children. He’s not in their lives. So the mom needs to get her s…t together. At least, the son came out all right, went to college, nice-looking, well-mannered. Ali seemed to be doing good, but the weight loss I am worried about. I wonder how the youngest boy will turn out.
I see Dina getting worse, though, down the road, not better. Lindsay high-earning days are over. Ali won’t make enough to give her a decent earning off the “manager” percentage. The boys won’t make her any money. Her glory days of living high financially have been dwindling drastically for the last several years with Lindsay’s career imploding and it will only get worse. Dina won’t handle that and getting older very well. I expect a lot of self-medicating to be going on.
Men like him… Should be neutered as part of their ‘sentence’ for failing as a human being.
That he’s bringing another child into the world is horrific. His girlfriend is obviously no prize-catch either.
Lindsay is a habitual criminal and substance abuser. I am not sure there is anything there to salvage in her. She did a couple of cute movies as a kid, but she grew up to be a rotten husk of a human being and has been given a 100 times more chances than your average person. Her mother is just as despicable, and YES..you see that Lindsay gets it honestly. But really…I am sick of hearing about the lot of them. All they want is attention, and I am officially going to stop giving it to them. Call it Tough Love.
Bingo. Robert Downey, Jr., was a good human being with a substance abuse problem. Lindsay is white trash. She has a character problem, not just a substance abuse problem, which I have come to realize as the years go by.
Dina and Michael Lohan will keep using the media to make a few dollars here and there like this deal with Dr. Phil. The idea of either of them getting a real job is unimaginable to either of them.
SO true…people always had sympathy for RDJ, because he was willing to admit he had major problems. He never blamed his actions on others. You rooted for his success. The only reason people are still interested in LL is that she NEVER seems to have to pay for her actions and it’s disgusting and infuriating to watch- and I think we keep hoping one day she will get her comeuppance.
There’s also the difference that RDJ TOOK his prison sentence and just did it, and didn’t whine or complain or try to get out of it in any way. He just went, served the time and came out. He also doesn’t try to blame everybody else for his issues. RDJ is an example of how people can be forgiving and compassionate – when proper contrition is shown and blame is accepted. Lindsay is still a joke because she chooses to be.
You are giving “white trash” a bad name here. Lilo is in a category all on her own.
I didn’t see it. I turned it on when the illegitimate daughter and her mom came on. The illegitimate daughter looks just like Ali and him. He is such a loser.
Hopefully, I can get time to view the full interview of “mom of the year.”
Don’t know if I’m glad I missed it or not. Had to work. But the situation is truly pathetic if the crackenfather is looking like the sane one in this group.
There’s not much more I can say about Dina. But, did anyone watch until the end of the show?
Michael said he would take a paternity test to see if he is her father. At the VERY END, Dr. Phil said that Michael has not had a chance to take the test, but is willing to do so on tv. The girl declined his offer because she doesn’t want it to become a media circus. She is the ONLY one on that show that seemed sane and mature. And she’s a teenager!
The mother of the teenaged girl declined having the paternity test done on television and stated that she would have it done through the courts. The child did not.
Regardless, all Michael Lohan wanted out of the paternity test was more TV time, not to find out the truth about his daughter.
Her incessant denials and defense of Lindsay’s behavior wouldn’t bother me as much if I thought this was something she was doing to protect Lindsay publicly. If she was privately reprimanding her or getting her the help she obviously needs then it would be a different story, but it’s clear that her denial is across-the-board and that she really just doesn’t acknowledge any of her daughter’s indiscretions (to put it mildly).
*sigh*
I feel like giving my momz a big hug right now.
Totally agree, as much as my mom enabled my abuser…she was & is a Rose next to Dina & thankfully my mom saw her wrong doing. BIG hugs to my mom after watching that train wreck yesterday.
Kit I agree. Seeing this disaster of a woman/wife/mother/human allows us to understand and appreciate the good ones in the world.
She is a mess and Dr. Phil exploited it this time for ratings sake. The more attention you give these kind of people the deeper they digress into their f*cked up worlds…either one of their making with substance abuses or their mental illness or in this case, both! How many times can we say DON’T FEED THE MONSTER!
I feel sorry for her, Dr Phil is an A$$!
YES! “Dr.” Phil was a condescending a**hat pretending to care.
I understand it’s all for rating, but with such a sad case I came off hating him more than I now hate kat face for how she carried that poor kitten.
umm.. she didn’t have to agree to be on the show, she could have said no. I mean, I agree the “Dr.” Phil is an ass but she should have known what she was getting into.. They both come across as d-ckweeds if you ask me (which you didn’t but I’m telling you anyway)
She wasn’t even asked to do the show. She CALLED Dr. phil’s show and set it up herself to “set the record straight”. That’s what one does for a PR interview w/ a journalist or commentator. Not w/ a TV Therapist. She thought she could steer it into an interview and he called her on it.
When someone goes on any of the big talks shows, like Oprah or Dr. Phil, you go on because of Oprah or Dr. Phil’s reasons, not for your own reasons. It’s all about Dr. Phil, not you. He doesn’t do anything without an agenda…its a business and he has an image to uphold. There’s a reason he wanted her on there, and he’s going to showcase her in light of his reasons, whatever they may be.
As much as I loathe Dina and Michael, those clips made me very sad. Whether a result of spousal abuse, drugs, or alcohol, Dina is clearly so uncomfortable in her own skin, she just skitters and jumps around and deflects, deflects, deflects. She psychologically blocks the hurt by her bizarre behavior (and abuse, of course). I completely believe her story about the Bible being thrown at her head on her honeymoon, and that being the first act of abuse by Michael. Maybe that was the tipping point and it was all downhill from that moment. Such a sad family…all they do is break each other apart.
Actually, Lillian Glass points out in a 9/18/12 post analyzing Dina’s body language that all signs point to the bible toss story being a lie, along with many other things she claimed. Glass, who has attached the label “toxic man” to Michael Lohan in the past and isn’t a fan, ended up wondering if Michael had actually been correct in what he’s said about Dina over the years. Google “Lillian Glass” plus “Dina Lohan” to pick up the full analysis. Dina’s tears were also fake. As Glass says, tears don’t come out of just one eye…. Glass felt the tissue was just a prop, and basically we were watching a deliberately deceptive performance throughout. Dina couldn’t walk out because she would be in breach of contract and would lose all the promised goodies. (Apparantly Dr. Phil ain’t no fool….she can’t sue him, either, guests sign waivers).
i’m curious, which of the crimes LL committed in LA would not be a crime in NY? The DUI’s? The drunken hostage car ride? The jewelry theft? the drug use?
Or was this a reference in part, that they would still be crimes in other states, only LL would not have gotten caught..
I know…and wow how telling (regarding their unlawful encounters) that she would know that right away (if true i cant see how any would be lawful in NY).
The ONLY thing I can think of, is that in NY she wouldn’t need a car, therefore all of the vehicle charges would be “obsolete”.
Obsolete, really, Dina?! And cell phones weren’t as “inept” back in the early ’90’s as they are now?! I’d say someone give the woman a dictionary, but I don’t think she’d know how to use one.
Oh my god she was so high. Seriously – I would bet it would be some sort of sedative or something (but most likely Ambien because the Lohans love Ambien). I couldn’t get over how all over the place she was and totally avoided the questions, didn’t pose herself properly for the camera etc, waving her hair and hands around. She should know how it works, she’s on TV all the time! Normally Dr. Phil uses the juiciest clips for his promos but this interview just got worse and worse and worse. I honestly thought he was going easy on her because he’s thinking “Oh my god she can’t even answer a question”. But his producers must have been shitting themselves!!
Who goes on camera in that state and is so delusional they think they can mask it and control the situation? It makes the mind boggle and wonder who these people surround themselves with that no one said…mmmm this may not be a great idea.
Wow.
Things I learned from Dina’s interview on Dr. Phil:
Cameras roll.
Dr. Phil is from Texas.
Dr. Phil wears cute, little shoes.
Cell phones were inept in the 80s and 90s.
Past criminal activities can be considered “obsolete” depending on what state you’re in.
Flipping the double bird on national tv is the very essence of grace and poise. Just watch, everyone will be doing it now. Dina, you edgy, trendsetter, you!
What a waste of time.
I don’t mean to make light of anyone suffering with alcohol and drug addiction or suffered emotional and physical abuse. That interview was a total joke. Uh, yeah….I’m sure all the women who’ve been abused feel so comforted and inspired by hearing Dina’s “story”.
If she’s that emotionally blocked she can’t even verbalize it then she needs real, professional help not Dr. Phil.
You can’t change the past, you can’t change other people, you can only change and control how you deal with your issues and live your life.
Get some help woman.
Perfectly said ohMyMy. If this Parkie fog didn’t have me in a grip this morning I might have written that. That was oh so close to what I told hubby watching it yesterday. So many others in & out of the Hollywood fish bowl, famous or not have had to do just that…. +1
Precisely!
Who on earth would let this woman carry a baby!!!!???!!!!!!!!
Yeah, she shouldn’t even be allowed to hold the baby. Maybe it’s Michael Lohan’s child. ha
I can’t stand Dr Phil, but she’s the one who made an ass out of herself. Couldn’t she have had her hair done before going on national TV. I didn’t watch the whole thing; just the clips, but “the truth is in the evidence”.
She made a huge mistake going on this show, & was obviously both physically irresponsible before going on, *&* mentally unprepared for the subject matter they were going to cover.
Always flying by the seat of her pants, never thinking ahead what she’d say & how she’d handle certain questions.
Damn, I haven’t seen this yet – off to search youtube for it now after I’ve read all the comments…
Guessing it will be worse than I’m expecting!!!
Gahhhh….can’t find a link to whole interview…anyone have one?
A couple of famewhores! Dina Lohan AND Dr Phil. This was sooo staged. Pathetic.
My question is why is Dr. Phil playing them against each other? Why is he even interviewing her? What is the point? Why would you make someone come talk on the show about their past marriage and abuse and then have the other spouse on right after?? This is bullsh-t – DR. Phil is a washed up has-been. He has ZERO credibility at this point!
Did Dr. Phil offer her help, as he has been known to do? Doubt she can afford it, Lindsay being sued left and right for bills unpaid.
I suspect she was “acting” so that she can secure a spot on the next season of Celebrity Rehab.
I wouldn’t doubt it… She is suffering under the delusion that she’s a ‘celebrity’, after all…
Exactly. It just felt like a performance to me. I think her behavior was completely calculated. We shall see!
I think she’s a horrible parent, and a broken person. But honestly? This interview made me sad (I CAN’T believe I’m saying that). She seems like someone who experienced a great deal of trauma at the hands of Michael Lohan and is now medicating with alcohol and pills. She’s not fit to raise Lindsey’s minor siblings, but neither is their abusive, drug addict of a father. Those kids don’t stand a chance.
I watched this, and it was BAD. She was definitely on something. It is sad when Michael Lohan seems like father of the year.
He has Kevin Federline syndrome. He looks awesome by comparison, and it is a STEEP comparison.
I’m sorry, but I’ve spent time on both coasts and… what exactly was her point about NYC? That they would have been obsolete because she wouldn’t have been driving in the first place? If anything, there’s MORE cops on the streets in Manhattan than in LA.
Never thought I’d say it but Michael Lohan spoke truth. I’m shocked myself. You know your life is a complete hot mess when Michael Lohan is the rational adult in the situation.
Um… She doesn’t look good in the dress in the pics.
I don’t know what Dina hoped to accomplish with this interview, but she did manage to confirm that she is a compulsive liar and a very stupid person.
I have not seen Dr. Phil’s clip with Michael Lohan. ML usually does manage to seem like he’s got one foot in the real world. Make no mistake about it, he wants a piece *however small* of what Lindsay earns as well.
I wish Dr. Phil asked Michael & Dina how they manage to support themselves when neither of them has a job. Also, I want to know where Ali is and where she’s going to live when she returns.
The weird thing in these clips (i didn’t watch the whole interview) is the childlike and frightened body language of the mother. This is a woman beaten on her wedding night. I’m not defending Dina Lohan, but did she ever grow up either? A shitty man ruled her young life, and shitty men rule her daughter’s. Soon, the Lohan women were surrounded by shitty H’wood producers, directors, probably men. I’m not down on men, love them, but preditors do want their pray and H’wood is built on them. Anyone woman of domestic violence, or assaulted by a man, understands how difficult it is to shed the victim skin. Even tough, determined women like Dina and Lindsy. She should have never done this interview.
When I witnessed her behavior, all I could think of was how eerily similar it was to that of my biological mother. My bio mom has been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, but she also shows symptoms of bipolar. When she experiences any heightened emotional state (e.g., excited, nervous, happy, angry…etc.) she acts so inappropriately. Im sure most people who dont know her assume she is on something, but that is just her. So, maybe* (*read: probably not, but perhaps) dina is telling the truth when she claims she was sober. I suspect significant mental illness. Of course, mental illness and substance abuse tend to go hand in hand…so, who knows?.. Sad though. Thank God my siblings and I got away very young. Note: not trying to diagnose this lady with anything, just an observation.
It’s things like this (seeing Dina for what she is, then hearing about other’s experiences with mothers having mental problems) that make me realize how fortunate I truly am.
My mother isn’t perfect, far from it in ways that have caused us issues, to be sure. But she was loving & emotionally stable our whole lives. I’m glad to hear that you & your siblings managed to avoid the sort of consequences some face when parents have these problems.
Thanks for your thoughtful response. I, too, always thank my lucky stars that we have an incredible father and grandparents who raised us up right and (for the most part) were able to protect us over the years from our bio mother’s shananigans. Had we not had them and had a father like Michael – well, let me just say that it isn’t all that hard for me to imagine why Lindsay and her siblings are the way they are. It isn’t an excuse for Lindsay’s horrific behavior, she is an adult now, but I’m sure she’s been damaged & has no idea how to be a responsible member of society.
Your childhood shapes who you are as an adult, what you know about the world, how you interact with other people, how you cope with problems/difficulty, what’s right & wrong.
Basically, Dina & Michael created a monster. Not saying it’s impossible for someone with horrible parents to become a contributing intelligent member of society, but more often than not, they simply struggle & repeat their parent’s patterns, then subject their own children to the vicious cycle.
What feels the most ‘off’ about Dina is that she’s trying to be Lindsay’s (peer) friend (not a very good one I might add) instead of a middle-aged woman with a grown child who’s life is in a constant state of dilapidation that she refuses to acknowledge.
I hate thinking this way, but I do truly feel sorry for the Lohan children. It’s not their fault they got the parents they did. Not that they should be excused from wrong-doing of any sort, but still.
It was horrifying to watch. It’s like Dina’s defenses are crumbling and she’s coming apart at the seams. I don’t think she’s a very nice person and certainly neither is her ex, but she needs authentic therapy/treatment, not more exploitation (whether by self, Dr. Phil or otherwise). Those kids need a stable parent but sadly, both are effin’ nuts!
Sorry if I will be repetitive. I cannot read all the posts, getting ready to Glen Hansard’s concert here in Boston.
Anyway, I am glad I did not see it… And… I was shocked to know she majored in dance from NYU!!!! meaning: she is living her dreams of being famous through her daughter.
She is not comfortable in her own skin and has major issues…sad, just sad…
Where can I watch this online? The full monty?
Dina talks as if she’s in her 20s, wow. She doesn’t seem well adjusted or adult at all. She could not stay focused on the interview and was not being authentic, trying to blow his questions off at every chance, even telling the cameras not to roll. It’s very clear that Lohan’s mother/father are very dysfunctional. Lindsay could have taken her own path, but instead, she sank deeper into bad behavior, where she still remains as far as I’m concerned. It’s a sad way to live one’s life.
After looking at the photos I think Dina Lohan should petition Lifetime to allow her to star in the mini-series version of Rielle Hunter’s autobiography. Acting wouldn’t be required – both of them are cut from the same delusional cloth.
After looking at the photos I think Dina Lohan should petition Lifetime to allow her to star in the mini-series version of Rielle Hunter’s autobiography. Acting wouldn’t be required – both of them are cut from the same delusional cloth.
I watched. It today and was shocked that at tines I also felt sorry for Dina and had to remind myself of all the times I saw her exploiting Lindsay and partying like a teenager with her! I also think she has an underlying mental problem,along with an almost illiterate sensibility! She seemed uneducated and flighty and her level of deniability was horrifying! I have often assumed that Lindsay would wise up and get back on track,but no longer think it possible…her looks and plastic surgery blunders are so distracting now,her look as Elizabeth Taylor is so bad,she makes a mockery of the lovely woman Elizabeth was….it was strange that Dina almost looked softer than her daughter. As to Ali..why is no- one calling this family out on her whereabouts?? It is frightening to see this! All in all a horrifying interview, sad,exploitive,disgusting! Dr Phil with his pseudo concern (“I don’t think you are a bad mother”???????) people need to stop watching all things Lohan!
very, very sad. this woman and her family are knee deep in sickness.
glad i only saw these clips and not the whole show.
dr. phil seems to have no problem exploiting and sensationalizing others for ratings.
ok wait, who let her hold a baby? Do they not know what she did to her own kids? That’s f’d up.
We can only hope (for that baby’s sake) that ‘Lohan Syndrome‘ isn’t contagious x_x
God only knows what fate would befall the world, if it is. Especially if Lindsay boned Charlie Sheen, who would then sleep with whatever he can get his hands on. Then those women will return to their street corners to share it with their customers… It’d be an Epidemic!
OMG. Just… OMG.
All those shows, this one included, probably lets the champagne flow in the green room prior to going on air. Loosens up the guests so “Doctor” Phil can ask the really embarassing questions that people would normally block, but don’t when they’re feeling loose.
Not that I am siding with this Lohan mess of a family – Not one bit! But, Dr. Phil’s show is a scam. Nothing more. He stopped being a doctor and became a celebrity a long time ago!
WOW. Now I see why Lindsay thinks it’s perfectly fine to act as she does.