Michael J. Fox hilariously mocks Taylor Swift: ‘What a way to build a career’

Have I ever talked about my childhood crush on Michael J. Fox? I grew up watching Family Ties and then Back to the Future and then the criminal underrated film Doc Hollywood (I LOVE THAT MOVIE), and I was always a fan of Michael J. Then I lost touch with my crush for years – I still liked him and admired him, but I just didn’t follow his career much when he did Spin City and he became a prominent activist for Parkinson’s. And then, like a bolt of lightning, he appeared on The Good Wife as a recurring character – a sleazily effective corporate lawyer always looking to hire Alicia away from the firm. My crush grew again, just because I loved that he was playing against type, as a soulless, ethically challenged lawyer looking to screw over “the little people”.

So, in my eyes, Michael J. Fox can do no wrong. I’ve always believed that in real life, he must be a really nice guy who never has a bad word to say about anyone. But as it turns out, he’s perfectly capable of letting out his inner bitch, especially when it comes to the subject of his son possibly dating Taylor Swift.

Remember at the Golden Globes, when Tina Fey told serial dater Taylor Swift to “stay away from Michael J. Fox’s son,” Sam? That was a pretty amazing moment.

So you can imagine how thrilled we were to relive it with the elder Fox himself last night at a book party for Ann Leary’s The Good House.

Would Fox approve of a Sam/Taylor (Saylor) love connection? we asked.

“No. No … Just back off,” he told us.

“I don’t keep up with it all,” he said. “But Taylor Swift writes songs about everybody she goes out with, right?” Right! “What a way to build a career.”

So if Swift showed up to a Fox family dinner (possibly wearing her fox sweater), how would he react?

“I wouldn’t even know who she was,” he said. But it’d probably dawn on him after the breakup song hit the radio. “Yeah, exactly,” he said. “‘Sam, You Piece of Sh-t.’ Oh … that was the girl you brought home!”

[From Vulture]

How much do you love this? I mean, he didn’t GO HARD after Swifty. But this was definitely a put-down, and it speaks volumes about Swifty’s grating shtick and how everyone has caught on at this point. When Michael J. Fox is like, “Oh, she’s the girl who talks smack about her exes in songs… well, that’s an interesting career choice” – you know you need a new shtick. For real, Swifty.

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  1. Joanna says:

    wow his son looks just like him. and same pose too

  2. LadyMTL says:

    LOL! I also had a crush on MJF when I was younger…I think I saw Teen Wolf 82 times. 😛 I absolutely love the fact that he called out Swifty on her ever-so-slightly freaky love life – he made my day, I can’t stop giggling.

    • only1shmoo says:

      Ditto, I thought I was the only one. I was born in ’85, and I had the biggest crush on him between grades 2 and 5 🙂

      He seems like such a genuinely wonderful guy, and his frank disapproval of Swifty has now rekindled my crush.

    • j.eyre says:

      I lusted after him in “The secret of My Success” I cannot turn that movie off if it ever comes on.

    • Tiffany says:

      I loved Teen Wolf too! I saw it in the theater one night…then the next night my uncle was taking me and my sister to a movie. We pretended we hadn’t seen it just so we could watch again!

    • Lauren says:

      MJ Fox is brilliant & witty..despite all his health challenges. Thank you Michael for clarifying Taylor`s career path for the last six years. MJ is being classy & truthful..a wonderful man,husband & father.

    • Nina W says:

      I also had a crush on him back in the day. I watched the tv show Family Ties where he played a preppy little conservative in a liberal family. I think he’s an amazing talent and a genuinely nice person. I will always be a fan and root for him.

  3. la chica says:

    Burned! lol!

  4. alons -y alonso says:

    Ha! I love you, Michael J. Fox! Swifty, girl you better go put some ice on that burn.

  5. Riana says:

    She needs to stop writing songs about guys she dates, seriously. I don’t think she even needs to do it honestly.

    That being said I look at someone like Kelly Clarkson who pretty much every song she’s ever done is singing about being happy to be free, being sad they’re broken up, wanting to be with someone, how much the guy hurt her – blah blah blah – and put her in the same category.

    Romance is 90% of all music on the radio these days, Swift’s mistake was being so public about her song-writing inspiration.

    • Nina W says:

      I agree, I think many song writers use their “real” lives as inspiration but Swifty needs to stop naming names.

      • Lulu says:

        Except some of the biggest hits even had names attached to them. Remember ‘Oh Sherry’ by Steven Perry? And ‘In Your Eyes’ by Peter Gabriel was widely known to be about Rosanna Arquette. I guess it’s OK if the guy does it, but not the girl. Then she’s hated and slut shamed me thinks. Sexism is still rampant and anyone who slams Taylor for writing about her past loves is participating in it IMHO. Agree? Disagree?

      • Mandy says:

        @Lulu – It’s one thing to name names in a love song that’s praising your partner, how much you love them, etc. But Taylor seems to specialize in breakup songs, and in most cases, she’s shaming the ex for supposedly wronging *her*, and except for “Back to December,” it’s apparently never her fault that the relationship went downhill. If a man wrote a song like that about his famous girlfriend, I would say that that’s pretty low of him, too.

      • Lee says:

        @Lulu
        I think if she’d written one or two songs about famous exes that would be one thing. But album after album full of them? I think that is what people are criticizing.

      • MonicaQ says:

        Oh jeeze, here we go. No one is condemning her for dating around. A lot of girls do/did that in their early 20s (I would not personally know, I’ve dated my husband since I was 16). But it’s her constant bad “12th-grade-he-sucks-pass-it-on-bad-da-Vinci-Code” songs that are just so done. It’s obvious who she’s talking about and it’s *not* in a positive manner.

        One or two of those songs I get. Fine. But she’s built her *whole* career on it and then wants to get mad that she’s called out on it? It’s like Twilight–she writes something that’s blank that girls can throw on and say, “THAT’S ME!” and she’s laughin’ all the way to the bank.

      • Reece says:

        @ Monica Re TLC: “Waterfalls”, that’s they’re biggest song of all. It’s hard for me to remember any love songs from them. “Creep” although “she” the main character in the song, is the one doing wrong so not Swifty-like at all.

        Now I need to go listen to some TLC. lol

      • LAK says:

        @Lulu – clearly you are forgetting ‘You’re so Vain’ by Carly Simon which is thought to be about either Mick Jagger or Warren Beaty. Not to mention most of ‘Jagged little pill’ and it’s title song ‘you oughtta know’ by Alannis Morrisette is about the guy who played ‘Uncle Joey’ on FULL HOUSE.

      • LAK says:

        @Lulu – mind you, Marvin Gaye’s sexual healing album was mostly inspired by the wife he met and married in Holland so there is THAT kind of inspirational music too.

        Then there is Dolly Parton’s ‘I will always love you’ famously covered by Whitney Houston written about her professional partner, Porter Wagoner on the TV show they were working on in the 60s as a goodbye song.

        Oasis ‘Wonderwall’ thought to be about an unnamed woman in Noel Gallagher’s life. General consensus was thought to be his then wife Meg Matthews but apparently not.

        The point is, loads of people write songs about their experiences and or people in their lives. men and women. Taylor seems to get with guys as reserach for her next ‘men done me wrong’ album/song. She claims to be a romantic who is in love with love and yet you don’t hear that aspect of her via the medium of song.

      • Tiffany says:

        I think putting the names and clues in her liner notes takes it to a whole new level. I think writing a song about a guy, dating him when you release the single, and then tweeting lyrics from that song when you break up is taking it just tacky.

        I don’t think it is sexist to call someone out on the cheap way they handle themselves. Her actions are so insincere.

      • Nina W says:

        I don’t think my comment is sexist or “slut-shames” Swift. I think it is inappropriate for any person, male or female, to kiss and tell in such a public way. I think many people feel as I do and that’s what people react to.

    • Nicolette says:

      In all fairness a lot of songwriters draw from personal experiences for their work. Look at Gwen Stefani, love her, “Tragic Kingdom” is all about her broken romance with Tony Kanal, and it put them on top of the charts.

      But I still can’t stand Swifty.

      • T.C. says:

        Yes everyone writes about love but they usually don’t make it an obvious game of REPEATEDLY dating a famous guy and writing a tell all song with that person’s identity revealed in code books. It’s a cynical game to make money not actual love and heartbreak. Swifty gets away with it cause she LOOKS sweet and innocent. Have someone like Rihanna do it and no body would be defending her.

      • Lulu says:

        Oh snap! But really, still, other song writers do it all the time. Why all the Taylor hate?

      • Tiffany says:

        Because Taylor hasn’t done it for one or two songs, and she has been very obvious about who the songs are about.

        This is what her 2nd or 3rd ALBUM filled with songs about her exes? She has written like 15 songs about real people, and then puts their names/clues in the liner notes! It is a gimmick and it is tacky.

        I would have more respect for her if she kept the object of her songs anonymous, but she names names repeatedly.

    • Annie says:

      Romance is on 90% of the music “these days”? Lmao. Romance is all music ever in the history of mankind! All music is about finding love, wanting love, losing love, hating love. Heck, all art is about this subject.

      I think someone is just a little too aware of their romantic status. Turn off the radio for a bit. Musicians, all of them, write about love. Love songs are all there is.

      Give Swift sh*t for using it for publicity. But not for using these experiences for album material. What else is she going to write about? Her nana? Her period? Her dog?

      • Riana says:

        She could write about the perils of the music business, how it feels to be a girl in this time period, body issues, culture issues, war, abuse…etc.

        I like Swift, I think people obsess too much about her and make everything she does a cardinal sin, but let’s not act like there’s 0 other topics she could sing about.

        I’m only saying she’s not alone. I’ve only heard one Kelly Clarkson song on the radio NOT about a guy, and a LOT of folks definitely write about their life. Like I said above Swift’s mistake was admitting to it, she’s not unusual at all in her songs.

      • MonicaQ says:

        Well writing poppy songs about losing the “wub of her life” is going to make her money. Writing about body image isn’t. TLC had “Unpretty” but the rest of their songs? Not so much. Same with Christina and “Beautiful”. It got played on the radio but those aren’t the songs that are going to move records.

        That being said, I don’t like her music anyway because I’m not the biggest country fan. And I’m not 12. But she playin’ the game and she’s laughing alllll the way to the bank.

    • Alexandra Bananarama says:

      Songs, lyrics, the type of music makes a connection through emotion not romance. Swifty is singled out because she seems to date just to write songs about specific people and specific instances.

      Kelly Clarkson doesn’t publicise her romances in the same fashion as swifty. Yes they’re on 2 levels of fame, but swifty could dial it back if she truly wanted privacy.

      She’s been found out and nobody that’s a true Alister with staying power will touch her with a 10 foot pole.

    • MW says:

      @Lulu – Oh, Sherry, In Your Eyes, Rosanna (about the same girl), Angie, Bell Bottom Blues, and countless others, are not derogatory toward the person they were written about. That’s the problem with TS. It’s not slut-shaming that’s happening. She’s hitting below the belt. She shames the exes, and names names, or at least gives too big an embarrassing hint. JMHO.

    • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

      Yes. Maybe that’s why I listen to so much classical music, all of this, ‘Oh, Heart’ business is grating.

  6. sasa says:

    The man speaketh the truth.

    • Priya says:

      Michael J Fox did not quite realize how talking ish about a young woman could be a really bad idea, especially if said woman made $57 million in 2012 alone. That money could have gone a long way in helping to fund Parkinson’s research. Hope he apologizes.

  7. Ms Kay says:

    “Sam, You Piece of Sh-t!” is already in my imaginary iPod and my favourite imaginary song from now on. Go Michael! 😀

  8. Amelia says:

    *sniffs*
    Ahhhh, I love the smell of bitchiness in the morning!
    Seriously, Swifty, go hideout somewhere for a few months, let us forget about you and stop serial dating your way through Hollywood.
    Or at least do it quietly.

  9. Cherry says:

    Why do all the people in these photos look so creepy, like something’s off in their faces?

    • Green_Eyes says:

      MJ Fox, has what those of us w/ Parkinson’s eventually get..the Parkinson’s mask. The rest can’t explain…

      MJ Fox is a very nice person and has a great sense of humor. Most of all he has a heart of gold. 🙂

      • Lulu says:

        I had always thought that too until this latest comment. I mean come on, Was that really necessary? I always thought he was bigger than talking down about other people, especially young ones. Maybe it’s his Parkinson’s making him crabby?

      • Meh says:

        @Lulu “Maybe it’s his Parkinson’s making him crabby?”

        You maintain that MJF is picking on Swifty unfairly, then you write the above quote, are you serious? What he said was nothing compared to what you just wrote.

        He was asked his opinion and he gave it, big deal, everyone is entitled to their opinion, including people with Parkinson’s.

      • Green_Eyes says:

        Lulu, I know MJF and yes he is a very nice person. Having PD myself for decades, I can say that though all illnesses can affect an individual’s mood & make them crabby.. However I sincerely doubt that is Michael’s mood. I do however myself agree w/ Meh. Just for future reference as the next person may not overlook such a comment. As much as an illness can affect ones mood, making a comment about an illness when unwarranted or in poor taste will damper a mood quicker than any illness can. Having dealt w/ this for decades, doesn’t bother me. But someone else it may. We all react differently, as we are individuals..not the disease:).

      • Lou says:

        Tacky comment, Lulu. -50 points.

      • Lulu says:

        I think maybe you all took my comment in the wrong way. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. I know when I don’t feel well, I may not come off as my best self. When I spoke of his disease, it was in a general sense, such as perhaps his symptoms or his medications effecting him. Since when are these things beyond the pale to discuss? My own grandfather died of complications related to Parkinson’s, and we used to give him a lot of passes on uncharacteristic behavior as the disease progressed.

        All the best to you Green_Eyes.

    • renata says:

      I thought the same thing when I first looked at these photos — that something looks off with them. My initial impression was that all three of them look like something out of a Madame Tussauds exhibition. I’m not sure if it’s their expressions or just the quality of the photos themselves, but they really look like wax figurines in these particular shots. If you look carefully, you’ll see that their mouths don’t even change position in the slightest between the top and bottom shots — yet their heads have changed directions. It’s strange.

      I love Michael J., I think the world of what he’s done. I marvel out how much courage and hope he gives to so many, but these photos creep me out. Sorry.

      • Green_Eyes says:

        Can’t say what’s up w/ the other 2…except sometimes we pick up mannerisms of those we are around all the time. That being said..again Michael has the classic PD Mask. I have it & hate my photos because no matter how much you think your smiling,..your making a face similar to that, look expressionless, or mistaken fir being mad. My own mother who has PD always asks me (for 13 years mow so wondering how much is habit from her) ‘why do you look mad’? I always tell people now “the smile may not reach the mouth..but always look in my eyes & see all you need to see.. They are my expression”. Photos however don’t always pick that lil tip up;)!

    • Green_Eyes says:

      @LuLu. Thank you very much sweetie. I am sorry that your Grandfather had to go thru it. It is so much harder on the elderly. My Mother has it & the neighbor we grew up next to passed away from complications of PD. So I have seen first hand how much quicker & harder the symptoms hit when they occur in later years.

      No worries sweetie, as I said having dealt w/ this for decades comments do not bother me. Actually I try to use those as teaching opportunities & awareness of the disease, even more so since I was appointed state director for a PD advocacy group. The posts are examples of how easily comments can hurt. I have learned years ago, everyone handles illness or set backs in life differently (especially illness) and have a hard time accepting & making the best out of the hand dealt. Some are bitter, some sad, depressed, etc.. Not just PD, any illness. As w/ life in general everyone reacts to a disease differently. So it stands to reason that we all react differently to comments that generalize an illness..as they effect everyone differently. I wish you the best LuLu & sorry that you were misconstrued. That’s unfortunately the problem w/ being on Internet (& perfect example of PD mask & monotone voice…you cannot read the mood or see the expression when comment is made so it is often misconstrued). Much peace & love LuLu

  10. marie says:

    and the hits just keep on coming.. haha, I love Michael..

  11. T.C. says:

    Finally someone famous calls her out on her tired shtick of dating famous men to get rich off writing mean songs about them. If I had a son I would never let him date someone like her. Too bad the Kennedy clan is not as protective of their kids as Michael J Fox. That’s what any loving parent would say to her-NO!

    • Nina W says:

      I think the Kennedy’s did right letting it run it’s course, she’s a proven flake and forcing young people apart usually backfires.

  12. DanaG says:

    Taylor isn’t ever going to be able to settle down with one guy her song writing will all dry up. I think that is why she dates who she does. The whole sweet little virgin thing is over for her I don’t think anyone buys either these days.

  13. MacScore says:

    Love his comment – and love the fact that he and his wife (Tracy?) are still together – she looks gorgeous and I think they don’t look “off” but happy. Good for them.

  14. Angie says:

    I love it so much! God, Taylor is really becoming a joke.

  15. Amy says:

    Michael J. Fox: Set and Match
    Taylor Swift: 0

  16. brin says:

    Hahahaha…this is the icing on Swifty’s humble pie…love MJ Fox!!!

    • Little Darling says:

      Totally. He’s been the best of the best for so long now. Talented, famous, grounded and funny. What a man!

  17. Mel says:

    Oh Michael J Fox, my new hero 🙂

  18. poppy says:

    never a fan of his until now.

    ot, recently one of his homes was featured in AD and i do have much respect for their taste or their taste in decorators/designers.

  19. CTgirl says:

    At 23 Sam Fox is too old for Swifty. Somehow Swifty is a cougar at 22.

  20. Eleonor says:

    The main point with Swifty is: she isn’t doing terrible things, you know, she’s not a crack mess. A lot of girls in their 20’s change boyfriends very fast (me at her age for example 😀 ) and there’s nothing wrong with it.
    BUT: nearly all her songs are blind items, because her stories seem pr stunt, and she wants to come out like the bon ton girl next door, that is boring.

    • Erinn says:

      And that’s the problem. I think if she’d just go ahead and date around, and not make a fuss about it, nobody would say anything. But she acts like every single guy is the love of her life, who ultimately lets her down. And then writes and sells these super ‘secret’ songs that are generally pretty obvious as far as the subject goes.

      • Kimbob says:

        @Erinn…you hit the nail on the head. How she’s going about this dating business is just all effed up. Acting like she just SO LOVED these dudes she’s dissing…it’s just so…..I just feel the need to take a shower & scrub myself real good every time I hear she does this.

        You could tell she didn’t like the disses the other night. Oh well. She should’ve seen it coming…she did it too much….& now it’s coming to bite her on her ass.

        Boooooo….go away Swifty. Go date in obscurity.

  21. s says:

    meh, most songs are written about love/breakups.

    • Little Darling says:

      It’s not about the songs being about breakups, love or relationships. Those are universal themes.

      I mean, Alanis Morisette’s You Oughta Know is one of the BEST breakup burn songs. However, does anyone have any doubt that it was a long term pivotal affair in her life that sparked that song? Rumors about who it was swirled forever. She also wrote that one, “Unsent” that actually describes problems with each guy she dated. Still another great song, and no one was able to go off a checklist of celebs who they could be. (Although rumour has it Oughta is about Dave Coulier).

      Point is, Swifty is having TWO month “relationships” that involve ice cream and coffee, hand holding and candid photos. She only dates famous guys, she’s up their grills after the first date, she always has that smirky smirk on her face (and probably a tape recorder in her pocket) while she flaunts around town her newest flame. Then, when they inevitably can’t manage to stay together, she writes songs about them…ridiculously thinly veiled songs, and then still plays the victim (lonely swan photo shoot/lonely boat ride back) and is all, “I believe in true love just haven’t found my prince yet.”

      She isn’t looking for love, this is her formula. It’s not that she’s writing love songs OR breakup songs from relationships she’s had that has everyone poking fun, it’s that she is pooling from famous dudes, dudes we all know, yet not one relationship has been quiet, or real enough to last more than six months.

      Eh. It’s her thing. Her relationships aren’t about love they are about material. End of story.

      I gotta say though. I love “We are never getting back together” and in that middle part when she says, in a mocking low guy voice, “I still love you…” I always imagine Jake Gyllenhall saying it.

      🙂

  22. Miss Kiki says:

    It’s a good thing I’m not a fan of Shifty Swifty because right now I would have dropped her like a hot potato in support of MJF. There is NOTHING he can do that would make me not love him.

  23. Marianne says:

    I know a lot of people like to poke fun that she writes songs about her boyfriends, but it’s not the only kind of song she has written. And it kind of becomes annoying when many other stars (including Adele) write songs about their love lives. Yes, I realize everyone is gonna throw the “Well she’s talented” line at me, but I’m saying its stupid to hate on her for writing songs about her relationships when everyone else does it.

    • Tessa says:

      Oh come on, it’s not the same thing. It’s one thing to write a song based on the emotions that you felt over a lost love or a bad relationship, and it’s totally something else to write, hmm, “Dear John” actually calling the guy out by name, describing intimate details, and leaving nothing to the imagination. That Back to December described Taylor Lautner physically, and actually mentioned dates that everyone and their mom had seen paparazzi pictures of. She uses detail, she makes it obvious who she’s writing about, and her view is so immature. She’s never loved any of these guys because if she did, she wouldn’t see love as so black and white, she would be more cautious of their feelings, even if they did hurt her. When it’s really love, even when it’s over, you respect it in a way. You don’t dress a model up to look exactly like the guy and reenact moments you had together. That’s so beyond immature I think Taylor Swift might be mentally ill. She’s crazy, I’m almost sure of it.

      • Mandy says:

        Yeah, I also think the way Swifty writes–dropping names, physical descriptions, specific date outings–kinda makes it hard to relate to her music. People love Adele because her music is universal. We’ve all had the shattering break-ups and “I want him back!” moments that she writes about.

      • Diana says:

        @Tessa, You told it like it is.

      • Masque says:

        This!

    • Amelia says:

      I’d struggle to name a songwriter or singer that *doesn’t* use their love life or past experiences as inspiration.
      The difference with Swift is that she very publicly dates these people and leaves codes in her album booklets for her fans to decode. Yes codes. That is her level of emotional maturity.
      She doesn’t just revel in the speculation and attention she gets from the clues she drops, she *invites* it.
      Correct me if I’m wrong, but Adele has never name dropped past boyfriends. I believe she’s referenced them in interviews and how they contributed as song inspiration, but she’s never publicly humiliated them by giving her fans clues as to who they are.

      • Nina W says:

        It’s hard to believe Adele and Taylor are almost the same age, they are so very different in their public behavior. I think Adele is very talented and has had not the easiest life. I think Swifty is a pop princess who always had it easy and success was handed to her without a lot of heartache. Swift is lighter weight and I don’t mean on the scale.

      • Bijlee says:

        @nina w actually I tnk both might be comparable. Taylor was apparently bullied alot as a child. Instead of taking her new found fame with graciousness she ended up turning mean and stuck up. That said I like her songs now. They’re catchy. I don’t worry about who she’s talking about because it oesnt interest me. Should she get new inspiration? she prolly should no one can survive on this forever. Especially when people are afraid shell write about them. Those of you saying she has no talent, disagree. She does she’s just not as talented as Adele. The girl won poetry contests when she was younger. She has talent. Just more as a writer musician than a singer. But she should find some new inspiration. Even Adele said she needed to find new inspiration abdout herself because couldn’t she write about breaks ups forever. Swifty needs to do the same. Men/romance/relationships aren’t the only thing in life.

      • Nina W says:

        @bijlee I find this bullying thing about her quite interesting. She seems to attract a lot of it on-line but I do wonder if it is part of her “woe-is-me” poor little rich girl story-line. If she was badly bullied, as so many are, I hope she learns the most important lesson, never be a bully (even a passive-aggressive code writing one.)

  24. VV says:

    At least she is honest? And it won’t be a matter like Carly Simon dragging out the inspiration of “You’re So Vain” FOR DECADES!

    Now that is a lame schtick.

    I also love MJF. He was great on Curb Your Enthusiasm. “It’s the Parkinson’s!”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI4lFjWoFqc

    • keats says:

      The entire point if you’re so vain is that it applies to everyone who thinks that song is about him. It’s right there in the lyrics….

      • Riana says:

        Thats not what VV was referring to.

        Carly REALLY used that song for publicity.

        If I’m remembering correctly there was even a contest or something where someone won the right to finally know who the song was about from Carly but had to sign a confidentiality contract and some other stuff to make sure he never revealed it.

      • keats says:

        @riana I WOULD get put in my place after a snobby little comment. Haha thanks. I didn’t know that!

      • Riana says:

        Lol, not at all, just one of those random factoids that I read once and it stuck with me. It wasn’t too long ago either I believe. That’s why I can say the topic of Taylor’s songs doesn’t make her too new in the music biz of writing songs about ex’s.

  25. lovely says:

    Everything else aside I LOVE Taylors earrings and the colour of her dress in that pic! What is that colour called? Aubergine? Give me those earrings LOL!

  26. FreeSpiritedGirl says:

    HAAAAA!

  27. FirstTimer says:

    I still think she’s harmless, unless you dated her. LOL!

    • Carolyn says:

      I think she’s harmless too. Don’t get the Taylor dislike. She’s successful and having the time of her life. She’s young. Plenty of time to settle down later.

      To those who are really taking umbrage at Taylor…you realise articles like this are just PR stunts don’t you….?

      • Nina W says:

        I’m curious, how is this a PR stunt? It seems way more like an off the cuff comment that the Internet has promoted to feed us merciless gossip hawks, just saying.

  28. Nicolette says:

    Love love love Michael J fox, always have. He seems like such a great guy, never heard a bad word about him in all these years. Doc Hollywood & The Back To The Future (all 3) are some of my favorite films ever.

    His son looks just like him! Talk about “back to the future”. And I love him even more for the burn on Swifty, it was perfect 🙂

  29. judyjudy says:

    I want to date Taylor so I can break up with her and she can write a song about her one-time lesbian affair with a tired, 36-year old stay-at-home-mom. I bet it’d be a hit!

  30. pinkheart says:

    i doubt she haslearnt anythin frm this ,i hope michael j hasnt given her a new idea to now pen songs abt her romeos parents

  31. Cam S says:

    Love that he and his wife are still together after all these years. I remember her on Family Ties and the episode where he went chasing after her in the night. So romantic!

    • Lucinda says:

      Love him and yes, his wife! How fabulous does she look? He’s really fun to watch in interviews because he’s pretty witty.

  32. Jayna says:

    Michael is so talented. I see his Parkinson’s is getting worse. I love that he and his wife stayed together. There’s a lot of love there. I loved him on Spin City.

    One of my dad’s co-workers, who became a family friend, used to be so feisty and funny and she developed Parkinson’s and it was horrible in its later stages seeing that once feisty woman struggle so. Michael has done well for a long time, far longer than I thought he would, and I’m glad he can still have a productive life in the acting field.

    • Leah says:

      I read recently that he’s in the “late mild” stage of the disease. It hasn’t progressed that far, but it will eventually.

  33. serena says:

    Oh lord, how much I love this man. I was a little girl when watching Back to the Future and the others, and the movie was already old but still, he was my crush too. Even today, I’m still rooting for him and if HE says that…well Swifty, it’s seriously time to change.

  34. hopperlea says:

    My crush with MJF started with a little movie called Poison Ivy.

    I really wanted to go to camp,when I was really little, but my mom would not let me for fear of all the weirdos so I would watch this movie whenever it was on in the summer to fullfill that void. And thats when my MJF obsession began.

  35. Joyce says:

    I think it is fine writing about your own personal experience but every freaking break-up. That’s the reason I start disliking her.

  36. Mitch Buchanan Rocks! says:

    Hey michael J won’t let me date his son sam
    they say he’s too young even though he’s older than me dang

    we’ll I’ll have you know he’s younger than me too

    because he hasn’t been out there as much to screw
    people like I have
    yeah
    so I think it’s only freakin fair
    Oh I think we’d make an excellent pair

    lets go back to the future so me and Sam can make up some family ties
    we’ll go shopping for used furniture and wear only the latest thrift store finds

    So Mr Fox will you let me date your son
    I’ll be writing yeah until this battle is won
    and when it is over I’ll be whining a song
    and you know I never mention anything about dong

    only fluffy poodles, hello kitty and cotton candy too
    ’cause that’s the thing that I really like to do
    between the sheets and all that sticky stuff is really neat
    and I can look innocent by wearing some pleats
    and all I can say is he’d better not cheat
    These are all the things that are important to me
    so please mr fox won’t you let your son date me?

  37. Dana says:

    The movie “The Hard Way” was good too.

  38. Emma says:

    I love MJFox. I used to watch back to the future all the time and I had such a little crush on him. He is amazing and a great activist because before him people I think knew of Parkinsons but didn’t really know about it.

    I love how he knocked Swifty (great nickname because she moves swiftly from guy to guy B) ahhh) down, but didn’t do it with any hate. Great guy.

  39. Mindy says:

    Michael J Fox used to be a customer of mine in the early 90’s (I worked at a boutique toy store in NYC very close to his home there). SWEETEST GUY IN THE WORLD. Sam was a cute little booboo back then. Nicest family you’d ever meet and he has always been really protective of his kids. If Sam ever brought home a serial dater girlfriend like lil Miss Swifty… Michael wouldn’t be as nice as he says here.

  40. DebraSam says:

    Love MJF! I haven’t seen his guest role as Dwight in Rescue Me mentioned here. He played a wheel-chair bound addict who dated Tommy’s (Denis Leary) ex for quite a few episodes. Hilariously well done.

  41. Thiajoka says:

    Hey, hey, shout out to “Doc Hollywood”! Love that movie.

  42. Elceibeno08 says:

    Don’t you think that writing songs about a person takes a lot of effort and talent? How many of you hypocrits would love to write songs about your ex boyfriends or husbands? I’d much rather have Taylor write songs than make sex tapes.

    • gg says:

      I sure would. However, she’s done it so many times at this point, she’s begun to shoot herself in the foot with it and it’s backfiring. Time to move on.

    • Aagje says:

      Now, now, let’s not call each other hypocrites.

      The girl works hard. But she should have expected a backlash as this is the umpteenth ‘ZOMG Love of My Life’-relationship followed about three months later with a ‘Whaa JERK! Let’s write a song about this!’ instance. She dates very publicly and usually with a very high-profile person. Then, after the inevitable break-up, lo and behold! A song! And then she oh so mysteriously dangles in front of the public the name of the song’s subject.

      Girl may work hard but her schtick is getting very old.

    • Masque says:

      If she did it with artistry and finesse it would be okay. But she’s obvious and petty so it just comes across as pathetic.

    • bluhare says:

      Writing good songs about anything takes effort and talent. No one is disputing that.

      It’s just most of us think she’s fake fake fake.

    • Leen says:

      I can write songs about the serious boyfriends I’ve had, however the guys I’ve dated for 2 months max, no unfortunately they don’t really inspire any creativity in me since 2 months does not equal a serious relationship for me.

  43. bettyrose says:

    The year Back to the Future came out, my room was plastered in posters of MJF. I read all the teen magazines, and knew everything from his real middle name to his favorite dish. I think he was dating Nancy McKeon for awhile, is that right? I was sooo jealous.
    I’ve always thought he seemed like a good guy, but I see nothing wrong with him protecting that super-cute son of his from a predatory dater.

  44. gg says:

    Wow, does Tracy Pollan look great or what?

  45. Drdeb says:

    Show me a songwriter that doesn’t write about life experiences. Taylor Swift is no different. She will continue to sing about whomever she wants all the way to the bank. Plus she has immortalized all those “boys” with her songs.

    • Tasha says:

      Then John M is not an ass he just immortalized all those “girls” with his songs and he shouldn’t gut Sh^t for it.

    • Aagje says:

      Clapton wrote Tears in Heaven for his son, who had tragically died.

      Swift wrote We are Never Getting Back Together about a PR-relationship.

      Whilst both life-experiences, I still see a difference…

      • Eleonor says:

        Tears in heaven breaks my heart and makes me cry nearl every time I hear it.

      • Marianne says:

        But Taylor doesn’t just write about her exes. She’s wrote a couple of songs for her mom, and on her first album she wrote a song for a classmate who was bulimic and thought she was worthless. It was a song to tell her how beautiful she was.

  46. Green is Good says:

    Ha ha ha! Love it!

  47. BlueAngelCV says:

    I get really tired of all the hate thrown at Taylor Swift.
    I’m by no means a fangirl but I think it’s out of line the way grown adults seem to go out of their way to critise this young girl about some fairly harmless things.
    I don’t mean this site, I’m fine with a bit of snark even if I don’t agree with it, but I didn’t like what happened at the Globes and I don’t like MJF doing it.

    • Feebee says:

      I hate it when a grown woman of 23 is referred to as a young girl. A girl is under the age of 18. A young girl would therefore be, I guess, under 13?

      • Emily says:

        I’m 36. There’s a world of difference between after-25 and before-25. Taylor is really, really young. And yes, under-25s are “girls” and “boys”.

      • Leen says:

        Emily, I’m 21 and Swifty is not a young girl. She is in charge of her career, her brand and her image, that alone removes her from the ‘young girl’ image. Yes there is a difference between being 35 and 23, but believe me it is rather sad that a woman in her position of power and in charge of her career/finances/management is considered a ‘young girl’.

        Hell I’m nowhere near her level of profession, in fact I have just finished undergrad education and now preparing myself for grad school and building up my career. I will be mortified if anyone viewed me as a ‘young girl’.

      • LittleDeadGirl says:

        Agreed. She is an adult, a fully mature one, and I give no passes based on age. Having said that I think she get’s alot of flack when she’s relatively a good role model and makes some catchy songs. I’m not a fan but she seems too harmless for how much dislike she get’s thrown at her.

    • Leen says:

      I’m 21 years old (2 years younger than this ‘allegedly young girl) and I find her annoying and reminds of these really annoying childish middle school/high school girl who go OMG HE IS THE LOVA OF MY LIFEEEEEe after dating him for 3 weeks then going OMG I HATE HIM. It’s pathetic to act like this at this age.

      I’m in college now and rarely do I see anyone acting like an immature high school girl.

      Actually I like relationship/love songs, but I find Swifty’s songs so pathetic and unrelatable. How the hell can she manage to fall in love with 10+ guys in the last 3 years and publicly shame every single one of them? I mean sure go ahead date as many as you want and sleep with as many as people as you want, I’m quite open-minded about these things but please don’t pretend that every guy you date for a couple of weeks is suddenly the love of your life. UGH.

      • Jordan says:

        LOL, let’s level set ourselves here…we are all taking time out of our lives to comment on a celebrity that has zero effect on us and most aren’t even fans to throw the most vile insults we can think of to demonize her b/c of some pre-conceived slight she has given to us. WE ARE ALL TAYLOR SWIFT!! Except of course, we hide behind our computers.

      • Leen says:

        It’s called escapism. I am certainly not wasting my entire day and life commenting about Taylor swift. In fact I never did except this one thread. And please, you don’t really know me to compare me to Taylor swift. I don’t understand what’s up with the personal comments but okay.

  48. Beatriz says:

    Omg just when I thought I couldn’t love Michael J. Fox any more than I already do he says something like this!!!! Love it that he has the guts to say what everyone is thinking about Swift. I had a similar experience with my crush towards Fox-it disappeared for a while, but then when he popped up for a few episodes on Scrubs a few years back and I just loved him all over again 😀

  49. Shelly says:

    Not sure I agree with all of y’all here…I don’t really care that Taylor writes about her love life. She’s hardly the only artist to do so. Her sweet innocent act may be just that – an act – but I prefer her to the Katy Perrys and Lindsays of the world. I’m not really sure why Michael felt the need to sort of bash her.

  50. Reece says:

    He was my childhood crush too & ITA with him!

  51. Kelly says:

    Love Michael J. too! And Doc Hollywood! Ya I used to like Swifty too but totally over it with her. I like her getting called out.

  52. lylaooo says:

    HAHAHHAHHAHHAH THIS ACTUALLY MAKE MAY DAY!!!!! I NEVER EXPECT THIS FROM MICHAEL J FOX HAHAHAH…I ♥ IT!! I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A VIDEO OF THIS !!! =)=) TAYLOR NEEDS VACATIONS ALONE…JUST HER! THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE SOME PEACE! SHE GETTING ANOYING JUST LIKE THE KARDASHIANS!

  53. wyldstallyn says:

    I LOVE doc Hollywood! When the old doctor school MJ by prescribing a coke to the kid with a stomachache is genius! And he is just adorable.

  54. Layale says:

    Swift is a prime example of how quickly you can fall in this business. Since I used to be a fan, I hope she turns it around. But if she doesn’t, she deserves what comes. Sorry to be harsh, but seriously, enough is enough already!

  55. Elceibeno08 says:

    I can understand Michael J. Fox is trying to protect his young, delicate, sheltered son from the wicked claws of Taylor Swift. Taylor might break his son’s young tender heart by writing a song. I can tell that boy has to have his daddy’s approval for his dates and girlfriends because his daddy might cut off his trust fund.

    • connie says:

      Seriously, hOw old are you?

      • elceibeno08 says:

        I am old enough to realize when someone is being demonized. Not all of Taylor’s songs are about her ex boyfriends. And not all of the songs she has written about her ex boyfriends are negative. She has not put a gun to anyone’s head to make them date her. Michael J. Fox was a little out of line denouncing Taylor as a boy-destroying Succubus. Taylor’s fans don’t seem to mind her songs. She is making MILLIONS of dollars with her ‘schtick’

    • Nina W says:

      I know, so crazy that a parent doesn’t want their son to get involved with a serial-dater.

  56. Asiyah says:

    I don’t see anything wrong with a person writing a song about an ex. My issue with Taylor is that the songs are badly-written and she makes it seem like she can do no wrong. It’s always THEIR fault, not hers. With Adele, for example, she said in one song, “I know I have a fickle heart, and a bitterness, and a wandering eye and a heaviness in my head.” Like she knows she’s not a walk in the park, but still he fell in love with that. Taylor doesn’t really admit she’s that flawed. And look at this lyric: “Don’t you think I was too young?” While I agree that you were young, you were also an adult at that point and could have decided that he is too old for you. Why does HE have to make the decision? Why can’t YOU decide that HE is not in your age-range? That makes it seem like she has no decision in her relationships. Not very empowering. And finally, her songs suck. I will admit I liked 2 songs of hers and those 2 weren’t break-up songs. Maybe that’s why they didn’t bug me? But overall her songs suck.

    • Jayna says:

      Bingo. She’s got her shtick going on it and laps it up for publicity, so has to take criticism about it too. Where’s the insight regarding herself in any of this? Adele is the same age and writes songs with far more depth and texture and different emotions to the lyrics, not just one-note angles about the next boyfriend who dumped her. It only works for so long. She’s talented enough, though, for a certain age group. So I don’t begrudge her her success. She’s a hard worker. I just get tired of her aw shucks persona at 23.

  57. Eleonor says:

    I know it’s out of context, but the woman between MJF and his son is Jerry Hall??? Whoever she is looks beautiful, really.

  58. Amanda says:

    Hah. Michael J Fox is officially awesome!

  59. G says:

    Alex P Keaton is the MAN for that! LOL!

  60. RobN says:

    Probably the only one, but I find a 51 year old man taking shots at a 23 year old woman so he can be clever on a red carpet, to be extremely creepy and in poor taste. She’s basically harmless and his comments were unnecessary. I’m guessing he’d be having a cow if somebody made similar comments about one of his children, whether they’re of age or not.

    • bluhare says:

      What does age have to do with it? Taylor Swift was the butt of a joke about his son, and he responded to a question about it. And if I were the parent of that boy, I’d probably say something similar.

      • BeesKnees says:

        A lot of these comments are cracking me up. Taylor Swift uses PR relationships to write mediocre pop hits, it’s a gimmick. She certainly isn’t in love and writing deep, emotional songs about her relationships. People are calling her out on the gimmick, this isn’t sexism or agism. And I will fangirl Michael J. Fox forever because I loved him as a child of the 80s. The other women who commented on here seem quite pressed about the situation but I won’t go Brangaloonie (which is a compliment, those are dedicated fans) on them about the shade they are throwing at MJF!

    • Lulu says:

      No, you’re not the only one. I was frankly surprised by it too. Michael J seemed(s) like a more stand up kind of guy than that. Guess not.

    • elceibeno08 says:

      I totally agree with you. When I read Michael’s comments about Taylor I felt immediately like defending Taylor. Who does he think he is?

      • Lou says:

        Why are people not allowed to rag on Taylor Swift? She’s an adult, she can handle it. Everyone treats her like this precious snowflake. She’s a public figure. If she couldn’t handle a mild joke at the Golden Globes, she shouldn’t have gone. Tons of people were joked about.

        And who does Michael think he is? He’s MICHAEL J FOX. He can talk about anyone he likes, because he is awesome.

        If Taylor can give it, but not take it, then she (and her fans) need to harden up. All she ever has is three-month relationships. Forgive everyone for not taking them seriously.

      • connie says:

        Not to mention that technically, she has made her fortune on publicly ragging on the guys that have had the misfortune to date/contract her. Seems a little unfair, non?

      • bluhare says:

        Connie: I agree. It’s like slut shaming for men.

    • another nina says:

      yeah, I agree it was a cheap joke.

  61. UrbanRube says:

    She is talented and she worked her tail off in her earlier years, writing her own songs and playing guitar until her fingers bled, etc. My ex (a critic) finds her a good interview and she’s always been kind to our daughter backstage and remembers her name, etc. But she needs to get some therapy, stat. It’s not great to be pegged as the one who shares every bitter thought publicly and keeps choosing the same kind of guy and making the same kind of mistakes over and over for decades.

    • Lulu says:

      Decades? She only has 2 under her belt, and only about 1/2 of 1 of those was used for dating. I remember being that age, and how exciting every new romance was and how catastrophic every break-up was. I’m sure I was every bit as histronic (in fact I know I was). But once I hit 25 or 26 I started to get a harder shell and learn to guard myself better. I’m betting Taylor does too.

    • Emily says:

      Yeah, uh, decades? She’s been dating since she was 2?

      She’s 22 years old. I don’t like her, but that’s super-young. My problem with her is her attempt to hew to this “good girl” serial monogamist image, instead of just being happily 22, single, dating, writing music, living her life. She’s furthering the myth that women must be in love in order to have sex, and that women fall in love with every man they date, and profiting off those two myths. It’s gross.

      • Leen says:

        THANK YOu! that is what annoys me so much about Swifty. Seriously, I would have no problem if she actually acted like a normal 23 year old who dated, lived her life and had a normal, healthy sex drive. I don’t really care if she dated 20 men, but please stop making it seem like every single one of them was the love of your life etc. And oh poor swifty is a prude and can only have sex with the guy she is so ‘in love with’. Lord if you had sex with a guy who you were casually dating after a couple of week, I would respect you a lot more than declaring that you are just so in love with him and after getting bored or it wasn;’t working out with said guy, you dump him and declare the next one the new ‘love of your life?’ I can’t relate to any of that, and I am a 21 years old.

  62. Violet says:

    Ha ha, ouch.

    I adore Michael, always have.

  63. KellyinSeattle says:

    She’ll probably write a song about Michael, now. That girl takes herself wayyyyy to seriously; has anyone ever seen her crack up, laughing? Anyway, go MJF!!!! Love your beautiful wife and handsome son, too!

    • Elceibeno says:

      I’d love it if Taylor wrote a song about MJF. My suggestion for the song title would be ‘cranky old man’

  64. Pink Elephant says:

    Can we clarify? This is all just building an image for a less than mediocrity. Taylor Swift – like most other well-packaged industry products such as Beyonce, Rhianna, Beiber, Carrie Underwood, etc. – Taylor Swift barely sings, let alone WRITES her own music. These stories are just part of the machine that creates the illusion of an artist, instead of a very carefully groomed product.

    These generic “I-love-you-but-you-hurt-me” songs coupled with highly publicized pretend relationships has done the work of a thousand publicists: Taylor Swift isn’t just a pretty, vacant, auto-tuned puppet, now she’s a self-sufficient talent.

  65. Miss Kitty says:

    I like that Ms. Swift has graduated to a more adult look – loving the gown, accessories and styling. Very elegant.

    That said, I think the issue with her is twofold. First, she writes songs with a romantic inspiration as revenge. The sense of “You Oughta Know” and “You’re So Vain” is not a tell-all meant to punish but someone suffering acutely and unleashing the torrent of emotion they are experiencing. It’s a captivating story, a relate-able experience. Taylor’s pattern and her detail-dropping are aimed to name, accuse, and condemn.

    The second part is the fact that these relationships are brief and arguably therefore somewhat more shallow – she’s seeking an ideal and sacrificing the people that do not fulfill it on the altar of her ego. Her grasping, ravenous desire for Prince Charming (love-of-her-life monogamy and devotion) and wrathful response when she is disappointed portray something that is an unfairly stereotypical female-specific behavior and is reviled by men. I think it makes it easy for other women to react strongly because they would like to distance themselves from that seeking, needy image.

    • Jordan says:

      I agree with your first paragraph. As for your second paragraph, I think we need to keep in mind who Taylor Swift’s target audience is – teenage girls. They obviously relate to Taylor’s songs plus they are the target group who actually BUYS music and are savagely loyal. Seriously, it’s not like she is an executioner who has ruined these boys’ careers. That they are also famous probably means they have just as big of an ego and eat up the fact they have a song written about them. Plus, unless they are idiots, they probably saw it coming and some might argue, why they got with her in the first place (especially since many of them have gay rumors floating around them).

      “I think it makes it easy for other women to react strongly because they would like to distance themselves from that seeking, needy image.” What does Taylor’s dating life or view on love have to do with any other woman’s image? Honestly, there’s a lot of issues surrounding women and how they are treated / viewed, and I can assure you, Taylor’s need for Prince Charming is no where near the top issue.

  66. erika says:

    hey now, nothing against using real life to inspire art, BUT when you have such a transparent, ‘cutting’ (ie: bitch the deal is on you stole my guy i’m gonna get you back or he dumped me i’ll show him!) manner of writing songs, well for one:

    1-don’t invite us over and over to your living room so you can bitch for 3 hrs about the dude you broke up with after ‘dating’ fr 45 hours. ” ”

    you’re easily putting a ‘dont touch’ stamp on yourself when you s**t on each guy who says “hi” to you. you’ll see yourself dateless and horny at age 30

  67. Fancyamazon says:

    @Kaiser I have followed Michael J Fox’s career in approximately the same way you did, and had a crush on him during his Family Ties years too. And because he was a Canadian, I had that little bit more for him as well. 🙂

    As for his comments love them, love him!

  68. Decent says:

    Wow lol

  69. Beth says:

    I actually think this was kind of rude. The only link to MJF and Swift is Tina Fey’s joke. He could have just said, “It was a funny joke, but I’m sure she’s a lovely girl.”

  70. Cassie says:

    I’m in Michael’s team on this one.
    Hopefully his son will pick someone who is not after his money while with Taylor he could feel better knowing that she has enough money to sustain herself.

    But I must say that everyone is stupidly ignorant about believing Taylor is the only singer/composer who does music about the men of her life.
    Every single female artist has done and they all still do what Taylor does.
    Taylor is just bullied because she chose to date famous gay boys.

  71. Lory says:

    Whatever happened to making music for the love of it? Not for the amount of money you can make, not for revenge, not for celebrity status.
    Swifty is talentless. She teaches her impressionable fans that going out with a player is cool and when they inevitably dump you (as is their nature) you should exact some form of revenge (writing songs about them in her case).
    Extremely pathetic!

    • Marie says:

      Musicians need money to buy drugs to keep on being creative so money is a very important matter.
      Hey, there are countless famous women who do what Taylor does, spend your time on them too. Please.

  72. Aud says:

    Swift is like one of those personal sex/relationship bloggers that write about every relationship they’re in. These sorts of people will end up being alone because they’re completely untrustworthy.

  73. Agnes says:

    I had a huge crush on him too! And it’s hilarious that he called Taylor out on her shtick .

  74. Lisa says:

    She isn’t the first or last to write about relationships. I know a lot of people want to be supportive of Swifty because she writes her own songs and plays guitar, but look at the quality. They’re like something my mom’s grade three kids would write.

  75. ??? says:

    I had a huge crush on MJF back in the day too. And that crush has just been reignited.

    For the people upthread who said this was rude/tasteless, Michael J. Fox has never, to my knowledge, at least, stirred up any kind of public controversy by bad-mouthing, being difficult to work with, etc. He’s had his share of considerable success and has chosen to lay pretty low over the years. He’s quite respectable. By any standard.

    I highly doubt he was trying to mean-girl Swift just for attention. Rather, I think he’s part of a dying class of celebs who find it hard to stomach the extreme opportunism of current-day entertainers. Why should he share in the fake ass-kissery that so many partake in when it comes to the ever transparent Swifty? (Btw, she’s an adult at this point. I would be more inclined to side with her — despite my general dislike — if she were still a child.)

    IMO, Fox is perfectly entitled to giving his frank opinion on the question he was asked, especially because it directly has to do with his kid. In the land of smoke and mirrors, it’s actually kind of refreshing when someone steps forward and tells it like it is.

  76. London says:

    I don’t see why this guy is being hailed for what he did to Swift which was outright rude. First of all, it is ungentlemanly to talk smack about and thereby humiliate a woman behind her back. Second of all, what age is this for a father to dictate whom his son should date? Rude, ungentlemanly AND kind of a dick to his son. He’s one to judge.