I know today feels like Kardashian Drama Overkill, but think of it this way – it’s going to be AWFUL when the baby is born. The drama will get taken to a really ridiculous level. There will be more magazine covers and tweets and photos and back-and-forth stories about what happened behind the scenes. So think of this is a preparation for the Gossip Marathon. Life & Style has a funny cover story this week – something about Kanye West wanting Kim to give birth naturally, and Kim’s birth plan involves drugs, a C-section and a tummy tuck. Once again, part of that is just subtext.
Let the parenting battles begin! As pregnant Kim Kardashian’s July due date creeps closer, it seems strong-willed Kim and father-to-be Kanye West aren’t seeing eye-to-eye on some very big decisions.
In fact, Life & Style has learned that the two have been bickering over the biggest decision yet: trying for a natural delivery, or to schedule an elective C-section.
“Kim told friends that doctors warned her she was likely to need a C-section,” a close pal of the reality star tells the new issue of Life & Style. “She can technically still have a natural birth, but they told her the baby was large and sitting in a way that applied pressure.”
Although sources say her sights are set on surgery — “telling her girlfriends at her June 2 baby shower that she is petrified about giving birth and would do anything for it not to hurt” — insiders are telling Life & Style that’s sparked a battle with the father of her unborn child.
“While Kim’s told Kanye that a C-section is what she wants, he’d prefer she did not have one,” says the pal. “He wants an all-natural birth. But Kim feels it’s her right to choose.”
After losing his mother to complications of elective surgeries, friends of the couple say, “Because of what happened with his mom, he’s really paranoid about medical stuff and he doesn’t want any unnecessary risk. As far as he’s concerned, surgery equals more danger.”
I’ve discussed my feelings on childbirth often enough that you should know that I fear birth more than pretty much everything else. Which means that I have no shade or judgment for Kim if she has a C-section, whether it’s because of doctor’s orders or because she’s “too posh to push”. I will judge her a little if she gets a tummy tuck, but even then… it’s her body, her choice. Some women are just terrified of the pain. As for Kanye’s wishes… well, I’m thinking that in real life, Kanye really doesn’t give a crap what she does. He’s too busy picking up ladies using his new line, “I’m just with Kim for the publicity.”
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
Yawn. Old news.
Let me get this straight, according to the tabloids last week Kanye was not going to be in the delivery room. Now this week a tabloid is claiming that Kanye is telling Kim how to have the baby? I wonder what the new tabloid headline will be next week?
Kanye cancels the birth because of a concert? ;P
I get her, I am only 23 and not planning on having kids now but when I do have them….C-section only!!!! and lots of pain killers!!! 🙂
you do realize that the post-op pain from C-sections are waaaaaaay worse than from natural childbirth right? and that they are more risky to you and to your (future) child, right? Soooo… yeah. SMH
Totally agree! I HAD to have a an emergency C-section and that recovery SUCKED!!!! Plus, your chances of having a skin “apron” (skin that hangs over the incision) are very high!!
That’s the beauty of choice. You don’t have to want it or do it but everyone gets the right to chose the option that’s best for them.
I’m pregnant and the thought of something coming out of my vag in 7 months scares the shit out of me. Also, my cousin died of a brain aneurysm and stroke as a complication of a natural child birth. I’m doubly freaked out. I want to do what’s best for my baby but at the same time, I’m petrified.
Edited out b/c I just saw Devon’s response. No need to scare her more.
The gist of what I was saying is that it takes a lot longer to heal from C-section than natural child birth. Also, that C-section is more painful. There is no pain free child birth. I’ll leave it at that.
@Kate — oh yeah – the skin apron! Perfect description – I never can get rid of it.
Pain from a c-sections sucks yes, but I bet those of you who have had it were also taking care of your new baby too, right? Life did not stop so you could recover. Kim will have this luxury. And pain is relative. My mother-in-law had a c-section and was fine the next day. She also had a hysterectomy and was bending over like it was nothing. Kim will afford the lipo and skin tuck also so any scarring and extra skin will be dealt with. A c-section will be a no downside way to go for her.
This will be the year of c-sections.
The second Justme was not me, btw.
I think it’s so strange that people fear “something coming out of my vag” (which is what our bodies are designed to do) and having a scaple cut open your abdomen and pulling the baby out sounds more appealing. I know that c-sections have to be done when medically necessary and the most important thing in the end is a healthy mom and baby. But, ELECTIVE c-sections are bizarre in my opinion.
I have had one epidural delivery with lots of drugs involved because of medical reasons (premature water break) and one totally natural delivery and I’d say with 100% certainty that FOR ME drug free was waaaaaaay easier.
@ Devon
I’m sorry about your cousin and wish you luck; that would freak me out as well. I’d be scared to get pregnant for a long time.
I think I’m a lucky person, what with what you brought up, with Angelina’s mastectomy. The women in my family generally live long live, no major health problems (unless they smoke or drink…nothing hereditary), and we generally have no problems getting pregnant. I have one cousin that, ugh, had five kids by the time she was 22, but I also have another cousin that just had her first kid at 29 because she had fertility issues her whole life. Doctors said that she couldn’t get pregnant, and I grew up thinking that she just didn’t want to be pregnant…she adopted when she was 24.
So I do feel lucky that as long as I take care of myself relatively well, that I won’t have any health issues.
If you walk alot the baby comes out easier. Celebrities need to quit being lazy and push! I had my 2 kids natural and it only took 3 pushes each time. I walked alot during my whole pregnancy. My sister had 3 kids through C-section and the doctor told her if she keeps getting cut open she could die. She had to have her tubes tied so shecant have anymore. Natural birth is not hard, the contractions are whats worst! Just WALK WALK WALK!
Yes. My c-section babies ended up in the NICU because they were “juicy”. They had too much fluid in their lungs because it didn’t get squeezed out on their way through the birth canal like it’s supposed to.
it may surprise you but I do know…and there is a risk with everything,that’s how life works….I made my decision…just be careful that your head doesn’t start hurting from all that shaking.
i love how people like to think they know best but just because u don’t approve of c-section doesn’t mean it’s not a good idea for others
Question, I didn’t think c sections were elective. But I am not dumb enough to think that money can’t buy you one
I don’t have kids, so what do I know? But…
That’s why I’m dumbfounded when women say they want a c-section because they’re afraid of the pain. Um…hello! That’s a serious surgery with a serious recovery. Recovery pain PLUS holding/nursing/taking care of a newborn baby? That sounds way scarier to me than a natural birth. As Just Me said, there is no pain-free childbirth.
I had a c-section and I have no skin apron, my son came out completely healthy with perfect lungs and body, and the whole experience was calm and pleasant for everyone involved.
Yes, recovery sucked, but I am so sick of people speaking so poorly of c-sections when these days a lot of times they end up being less risky. Every situation is individual and every decision regarding childbirth is between a woman and her doctor. Everyone else stay the hell out of other peoples businesses.
Childbirth of 3 children naturally, with epidural block was a piece of cake compared with three surgeries I had for various things. Childbirth pain ebbs and flows and then you have a baby. Surgical pain is just there and is much worse.
Caesareans HURT! A lot! It”s SURGERY, with stitches or staples, nerves and muscles cut, risk of infection, etc. The bowel stops working because you’ve been opened up. The gas pains are excruciating once your GI tract starts up again. It hurts to pee for a week. It takes several weeks before you can pick up anything heavy.
She is not getting out of this pain-free.
Personally I didn’t care because I was all about the baby! But I’m not sure KK is the maternal type. Her whining is going to reach EPIC proportions!
You do realize you’re awake for a csection right? Unless it is an emergency cs you’re awake while they are cutting through your abdomen.
It is also a lot easier recovering from vaginal birth.
I was awake during my two hip operations, having spinal for both of those. I understand what it involves but my cousin literally died because the strain of giving birth. Had she not given birth or had a c section, the aneurysm wouldn’t have ruptured and she would still be alive. Would that not freak you out?
My vaginal birth was waaaay easier than my csection. I had an epidural and slept through my labor.
My csection I was in pain for a week! And my baby ended up in the NICU too because his fluid didn’t get pushed out either.
I have one of those hanging meat apron things from the c-section…Also, I was tired for almost a year after the last one. It’s major surgery. It took me months to really get any kind of energy back.
Every birth is different, and every situation is different. I wouldn’t assume recover from a natural birth is easier. I had a 3rd degree tear from my natural birth and ended up with over 100 stiches-making recovery a long painful process. Can’t compare with a c-section because i never had it but while labor was no piece of cake, i was more prepared for that pain-i wasn’t prepared for the mess that my body was after birth. Still, I personally would not choose to have a C-section though i do think next time I will take the drugs!
@ All-in-all – Girl! when you have a c-section, after taking the baby out of you, they literally take out your uterus and put it on your stomach so they can clean it out. Then they put it back inside you and stitch your ass up and it takes over 3 weeks to heal. Give birth the regular way with an epidural and you are up and walking 12 hours later. To me, it’s a no-brainer!
Wow. You are so wrong. This must be a joke
I’m just going to assume you have no prior childbirth experience… what a ridiculous comment.
@Lisalou and la – nope. She’s right – the uterus is removed from the body and inspected, usually scraped out, and stitched shut before being replaced. I have no idea if stitching one’s “ass” shut is intended to be literal, but yes, one’s uterus is lifted out of the body cavity.
I sounds like you aren’t ready to have a child yet if you think like that.
I guess you have problems with reading since that is exactly what I wrote…
I’ve given birth both ways and want to add my voice to the discussion. Natural childbirth is WAAAAY easier. I was uncomfortable with labor pains for a few hours and after pushing through three contractions the baby was out. It doesn’t happen that fast for everyone, I know, but with the c/s it hurt for so long. Even sneezing months later was a scary prospect. I still have numbness in my abdomen from it. If you have a choice, I would HEAVILY advise avoiding a cesarean (and doing everything you can to decrease the chances-do those kegels, ladies!).
Also, birth is not the hard part about having a baby. There’s nothing wrong with being scared, but mothering is not for sissies.
‘mothering is not for sissies’ – best comment.
A friend told me the contractions were not that much worse than period pains. Definitely natural birth over a C section any day.
I agree with your friend. That is how I felt about them. I clutched my husband’s hand and moaned or grunted through them, but I never felt like I was dying or being ripped apart. I think not being afraid makes a big difference.
Recovering from a c is much much worse. Just get that epidural in there ASAP and you are good!
Guess I am in the minority here. I had 3 c-sections, first 3because of emergencies and I was walking and no pain the next day. I have the skin flap, which sucks lol, but I had no pain. 🙂
With my vaginal birth I was up and walking like 30-45 minutes later. I had to lay flat on my back for 8 hours with my csection. I was up the next day because Everyone has to get up and start walking around the next day.
I also had both,and think the c-section was for me….way easier.Way.I ripped it all,the c-section suck too.But I’d prefer c-section.
Go with the epidural, but try to hold off until the constractions get too painful to bear. I was in back labor for about 6-8 hours prior to requesting my epidural, but I held off because I did NOT want it to wear off. Pain free birth, easy recovery. I’m serious-ToddlerTarheelBuckeye arrived with no pain, about an hour of pushing, and only a little burning afterwards for a few days. From what I hear, C-sections are a bitch for recovery.
Every birth experience is different even with the same person. I had an emergency c-section and was on my feet the next day and had an easy recovery. No “skin apron.” Just like with a vaginal delivery, prepare for the worst and hope for the best. If I have another (and I plan to), I’ll have to have a c-section and will hope for a repeat experience but won’t count on it.
I love the baby’s “name”.
@skeptical: MrBuckeye requested I give him some credit. Apparently the fact that TTB is a red headed mini-me is a sore spot. 🙂
I had a c-section and my best friend delivered naturally on the same day. One day later she was up and around and cheerful, while I was suffering pain for weeks. Trust me, c-section isn’t easier.
I have to say that a c-section would scare me way more–they are cutting open your abdomen!!! I thought the medical community was back-tracking on the c-section ‘fad’. If it’s not medically necessary, a woman should not have surgery. There are way more complications from surgery than a vaginal birth. By the way, I know I’m in the minority, but I two pretty painless vaginal births. Just get the epidural as so as they will allow you and it’s not such a big deal.
I had a C because my son was breech. 1 week after the C I was in the most excruciating pain. I still have no feeling in that part of my abdomen 4 years later. I have no idea why any woman would electively choose a C.
Breech c-section here, too. +1 I remember the agony and wondering who in the flip would purposely choose a c-section with its weeks and weeks of pain…
One month out from a c section for breech here, and I still have nightmares about it. Can’t compare to natural birth- never had one- but the c section was painful and terrifying!
@Amy – it really does get better soon, I promise! And if you’re having nightmares, there are therapists and even doulas who can help you process the surgery. Your sleep is already interrupted enough – you shouldn’t have to have nightmares on top of that!
I’m sitting in a hospital bed now after delivering my baby boy via c-section yesterday. It’s definitely not an easier road!
Congrats kate. Baby boys rock.
Congratulations!
Please consider not circumcising him, and let him make his own decision about his own body and religion. 🙂
I hope you become more mature before you become someone’s mother. The labor process is just the beginning of the sacrifices – if you are trying to be a good parent, that is. Medically needed C-sections are one thing, but there are benefits to the baby from having a vaginal birth.
@Devon – you need to talk over your concerns with your doctor. Perhaps your cousin had a pre-existing condition that caused her stroke. I understand that it is more upsetting to you because it was a family member that suffered in this way, and you might be wondering if it is some sort of genetic problem. In any case, I’m sure that, intellectually, you realize that having a brain aneurysm and stroke is extremely rare. Epidurals are your friend, and I highly recommend them.
Good luck with your pregnancy!
I am mother to two kids born by C section. Leaving the reasons behind the C sections alone for a moment, the birthing is not the destination. It’s the journey. If someone is terrified of giving birth, having a C section is not child abuse. And there are always extenuating circumstances to consider, like having one child and needing to plan for that child’s care while having the second, so instead of waiting for when it happens, you plan it out so your mind is at ease while having the second child. I gave my kids formula and they are now 8 and 5 and perfectly healthy, but you wouldn’t know it listening to the breastfeeding police. You now have to reason and beg for formula (what if your kids are adopted?). As long as a parent is being reasonable and making safe, healthy choices, s/he shouldn’t be judged. Not everyone is into the organic, natural trip.
Devon – I’m an RN & work in an area where we regularly see brain aneurysms & treat them. Your cousin had a bad draw – anesthesia from c-sections also poses a risk for rupturing. I saw one a few weeks ago where a woman ruptured after anesthesia. If you’re worried about an aneurysm, you can go see a neurologist – we often have family members come in & get tested for them after they’ve had a close family member die. They can be genetic, but are still really rare. I’m sorry about your cousin.
LMNOP: *lucille bluth style EYE ROLL* Whatever, hon. Having a C-section and being afraid of childbirth (a totally valid fear) does not make someone immature.
I think you’re the one who needs to do a little chillaxing and growing up. Every woman is different and birth choices are personal. Be mature enough to respect that.
lmao at the sausage feet, and the cover photo!
Remember the last time she had a pregnancy scare, she flew to africa to chill in some club…so yeahh..not sure If I believe in this second “baby may be at risk”
I have no problem believing this.
I’m surprised its taken this predictable story so long to be written. Poor little girl (32 years old!!) is so afraid and scared. Oh. Everyday something else. It hurts being pregnant and she’s afraid of giving birth. I doubt a 16 year old pregnant girl would complain that much. she annoys me to no end.
American doctors WOULD NOT operate on Donda West. That’s why she died on the operating room table in Brazil. A simple stress test will tell you when a potential patient’s body is not physically capable of surviving surgery. Elective surgery on an overweight woman with very poor cardiovascular health is NOT the medical equivalent of a Csection.
Somehow I’m sure the false equivalency is beyond Kayne’s comprehension…. Thus proving he’s not all knowing God.
‘Thus proving he’s not all knowing God’. Ur right,he’s only YEEZUS;)
Celebrity plastic surgeon Dr. Jan Adams operated on Kanye West’s mom, Donda West. She did not have surgery in Brazil. Dr. Adams believes that aspiration (the sucking of fluid or other substances into the airway when breathing in) is to blame for her death, saying that she probably “laid down, ate, had narcotics onboard, aspirated, her lungs got all this food in it and then four minutes later she passed away. Following the Donda West case, Dr. Adams served eight months of jail time and surrendered his medical license after a series of DUIs. He’s now petitioning the medical board to get his license reinstated, which he expects to happen soon.
Dr. Adams insists that he “never struggled with alcohol before” and that he no longer drinks, as “it doesn’t serve [him].
Boy, I bet she never thought this pregnancy thing actually involved having a baby.
Agree. Guess it’s easy for her to forget, babies aren’t like her normal accessories, you can’t just pick em’ at Prada and carry on with no mess, no fuss.
She should have really thought this one through.
Honestly, I know for myself, I watched all that “A Baby Story” and stuff, I KNEW that the baby had to come out eventually, but I was totally not mentally prepared. I really just wanted to be pregnant, and then one day have a baby in the bassinet. a Stork type thing lol. When the DR told me he was sending me to the hospital I freaked. I ended up having an emergency C-section. Honestly, I’d do it again. I just can get it in my head to push a bowling ball through my vagina.
The DR told me my C-section healed really nicely and I could likely have a vaginal birth next time but I had SOOOO many complications that i think were due to having preeclampsia and an epidural that I think my best bet is to just have another c-section.
Please research diet in regards to pre eclampsia. Apparently, what a person eats can make it better or worse. My mother had it with all 3 of her children, so I will be watched very carefully if ever I get pregnant.
@Jag: despite those claims, there is no proof that diet affects pre-eclampsia. New evidence suggests it’s the mother’s body attacking the foreign DNA of the fetus. In fact, my midwife specifically told me not to follow one of those “anti pre-eclampsia” diets, the Brewer diet because she said it makes huge babies.
@Skins:
Ha! Like your comment! It does seem that “thinking things through” isn’t one of Kim’s best qualities.
She is going to be so surprised when they hand her that little bundle of Kash, I mean joy.
Ha ha, so true. My take is that she got pregnant to snag Kanye, and is absolutely shocked and horrified by the toll the pregnancy has taken on her body.
I have no doubt that she’d prefer a C-section over the messiness and pain of natural labor. (I’m not judging — I’ve never had a baby, but I have to admit that labor scares the hell out of me.)
I’d be very surprised if she ever has another biological child; she seems to hate being pregnant.
The sad thing is that she doesn’t seem truly happy or excited about the baby.
If she doesn’t develop any maternal feelings, I hope she doesn’t end up being the primary custodial parent. (The writing has been on the wall for a while: Kanye is going to officially dump her as soon as he’s got his legal ducks in a row regarding the baby.)
That close up pic of her swollen feet is the stuff of nightmares.
Have to scratch my eyes out to forget the sight of those feet. And yes, I am terrified of giving birth, which is why I was never dumb enough to get pregnant…
She needs to get off her feet completely. Her blood pressure has to be up. She lives differently, but a recliner is so nice for this stuff. At one point in my pregnancy after flying at 6 months, I had paperback books placed under the foot of the bead. Getting in a pool is good, too.
Birth in any way scares the crap out of me (vaginal or c-section). They are both equally scary in my eyes. I never get why women think a c-section would be less scary.
I had an emergency c-section because my kid was early, but I had planned one anyway because he was breech and I was just as terrified of that as I was labor (which I got to experience anyway because he was early). But the far more terrifying part of it all was leaving the hospital with my son without any clue what to do with him. I can still remember my husband and I getting him home and panicking about how the nurses were gone and we were now completely responsible for this tiny little person. THAT was scarier than anything else.
I can relate to that. Suddenly you realize that you are a grown up in a way that you never were before. The baby will die if you don’t take care of him or her. That little creature cannot eat or even move on its own. It’s sobering and a bit scary.
I’d guess she’ll have a nurse and/or nanny waiting when they get home from the hospital, so that’s probably not terrifying to her.
That’s my fear now too, I’m just over 4 months along but I’m so scared of breaking my child when I bring him home, they’re so small and fragile I’m not sure how my husband and I are going to handle it
@JenD – true enough. Hand the little person over and bring them back a few weeks later for the “cover shoot”, with Kim looking photoshopped in a white robe and the poor little offspring/accessory held in her tender arms.
I do hope she finds a loving nanny at least.
@LucyS Same here. When I got discharge from the hospital I felt SOOOO overwhelmed that I cried a few times. We went from being a fun loving(just pack your bags and go) couple to being responsible for a human being. I had my hubby and mom with me but I still felt like all the responsiblily was on my shoulder(mom thing I guess). I don’t know about others but I know I didn’t enjoy the first week at home with my daughter because I was so scared that I would not measure up. But by the second week all was good and now I cannot live without her.
You are so right!! The terror begins when they kick you out of the hospital. Then it continues until your kids are 21 (or later if you can’t get them out of the house)
Lol!! I totally agree, I have no birthing horror stories, vaginal birth yadayada…BUT I was terrified to take the squirmy, slippery, tiny little creature HOME!!!
My tiny creatures are now 20 and 21 years old, and let me tell you, the ‘birth’day was not the hardest time, not by a long shot. Someone said upthread that parenthood is not for the faint of heart! How very true!
I cried the entire time I had my planned csection. It was my biggest fear. Getting cut open and having major surgery just seems so scary to me. Pushing a baby out didn’t seem nearly as scary.
Unfortunately I can’t have children but I was always more frightened by the c-section idea. I hate surgery.
I’m totally sympathetic on this one! I had a c-section at the last minute with my baby and I was all, color me relieved!! The idea of pushing a 10 pound baby out through my Hoo ha scared the day lights out of me! My mom kept reassuring me that I hadn’t “failed” and al I could think was how I lucked out!
Pimp Mama Kris probably wants Kim to go the C-section route because she doesn’t want Kim’s ladybits to get out of shape. Gotta keep the babymaker/moneymaker tight in case they need to send Kim back to pr0n.
I am a healthcare professional and I work as part of a team that attends high risk deliveries. C sections are NOT elective. At least not in my country. C sections should only be done if they are medically necessary. Also, I had my own delivery, not a C section, had an epidural and was very comfortable. So pain really isnt an issue. I think she’s being vain and wants to preserve her vagina for ‘Ye. Yup. I said it!
Agree! But really, after all these men, the sex tape, etc… wouldn’t you think the “vag” has seen better days?
I’m not so sure that’s how a vagina works.
I’m thinking if the doctor is advising a c-section because of size and position of baby, it’s not exactly an “elective” one. Those are sound medical reasons to have one.
I don’t for a second believe that this is an actual recommendation. This seems more like a “Kim is lazy and selfish and this is what she prefers” type situation.
I’m sure the doctor’s “orders” are akin to her needing to have less stress from her divorce…she says what she wants and uses “the doctor’s orders” as an excuse.
I clicked on this story and wish I hadn’t.
But because I tortured myself by seeing those photos and some of the comments, here’s my opinion. She’s a selfish, vain bitch who is only concerned with herself, doesn’t give a sh*t about her baby, and will have a No Push C-Section with tummy tuck and lipo if she can get it. Maybe even the buttpads removed.
Because it’s not about the baby. It’s about preserving Kim’s “beauty” which is her income.
PS If you are planning a baby, or just go off BC because you can, isn’t this the stuff you should think about before you do it??
Tania, agreed. Here in Canada I know that C-sections are not elective either (you only get to have one if there is an actual REASON to have one). So I don’t understand all these people who are saying that they’ll have a C-section because they are too scared to push. When did it become a choice? A surgery where they cut you open with minimum six weeks healing time is preferable to a vaginal birth? Imagine trying to take care of a baby when you can barely move because of stitches in your stomach.
Side note, I’ve seen C-sections performed on my father’s cattle before. It’s pretty interesting.
littlestar — you are wrong. google “rebecca eckler” and c-section…
I think elective c-sections are a Hollywood thing. I’ve also read they frequently do them a few weeks early (35 or 36) because the last four weeks are when the skin stretches the most.
I wouldn’t do an elective C-section and I am NOT a Kim K fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I’m not going to throw any shade at her if she is planning to get a TT after giving birth. I know women who have done that – they also get their tubes tied at the same time. (Which I can totally see Kim doing, after her experience with this pregnancy.)
In assuming she thinks a tummy tuck is painless? No matter how you look at it, birth is a traumatic process for the body, throwing another procedure in there and whining about fear of pain doesn’t garner her much sympathy from me.
I am a healthcare professional and I work as part of a team that attends high risk deliveries. C sections are NOT elective. At least not in my country. C sections should only be done if they are medically necessary. Also, I had my own delivery, not a C section, had an epidural and was very comfortable. So pain really isnt an issue. I think she’s being vain and wants to preserve her vagina. Yup. I said it!
It’s a myth that giving birth destroys the vagina. Doing Kegel exercises helps it restore its shape faster. Our bodies know what to do if we let them.
Dear Jag…i can (RE)ASURE you…birth doesnt destroy the VAG.Its the way you handle your body AFTER BIRHT.TRUST ME ONE THIS ONE.Some just let the doctor, put some extra stitches, that way the ‘opening’, stays as they want to..
I used to work in sales, and I was the only woman in my team. Most of the guys when they talked about their wives amongst themselves the number one complaint was “things did not feel the same down there after the baby”. It annoyed the hell out of me when they would do the echo sound as in a cave. Until one day I said: do your wives/wife know about this? And almost collectively they said No Way! That would hurt their feelings.
Effin men.
Alexandra- I would have started making fun of them for having tiny d!cks.
Can you really get an elective C-section in the US? You walk into your OB-GYN’s office, declare you’re too posh/scared/embarassed to push and that’s it: a C-section on a date close to your delivery date which suits you best?
I’m amazed (and maybe a tiny bit jealous, since giving birth to my son lasted for two days straight and hurt like hell:-). In Holland you get sent away for psychiatric evaluation if you ask for a C-section just because you don’t like to push. We do finally get epidurals here, so the Dark Ages of childbirth are almost over.
If Kim is afraid of the pain, she could ask for an epidural, right?
No, it shouldn’t be done in the U.S. unless it medically nesassary. It sounds like the doctor is preparing her for the possibility because of the baby’s size and instead of considering the two options she’s just going with the c section because that’s what she wants anyway. Plenty of women deliver vaginally to large babies.
Who are you to say that a woman shouldn’t birth the way she wants? I think an elective c section should be an option for everyone! It was so easy, I was back in school after one week.
@China – well. We all pay insurance premiums and c-sections cost double or triple what a vaginal birth costs, so there’s that. Add in the fact that the risk of either mother and baby dying are both higher for c-section births, and it’s not like getting Botox. Glad your recovery was a cinch (mine sure wasn’t), but it is major abdominal surgery and shouldn’t be treated lightly.
It shouldn’t be done but it is all the time. If insurance is footing the bill, there is generally some kind of justification (i.e. cephalopelvic disproportion) but that is only because these doctors want to get paid.
About 30% of US deliveries are via C-section. My doc put the option on the table, no pun intended, when I was losing energy during my son’s delivery, so if there’s a trend, doctors are complicit. (After a 2nd epidural, I went natural and, 8 weeks later, I’m still recovering.) Not sure what I’d do in retrospect, but I tend to think all surgery should be avoided unless absolutely necessary.
That’s my mindset when it comes to a c section. i will do it if I need to. And remember you still have to take care if that baby while recovering from surgery
I think you can schedule one under certain circumstances (high risk due to maternal age, multiples, or if you already had a c-section). Hollywood does its own thing, though.
Also, I believe doctors do a lot of c-sections because they are afraid of malpractice if anything goes wrong during an extended labor.
When ppl say they want a c section it shows just how uneducated they are about giving birth. I wouldn’t elect for major surgery which will leave me in pain and with restrictions of my activity for weeks. It’s not a easy way out and is more dangerous for mom and baby. It should only be done when medically nesassary. Just get an epidural to help with the pain.
Agreed get epidural and have vaginal delivery. Avoid surgery at all costs!
A planned csection after 39 weeks before labor has started is actually quite safe for both. A csection after labor has started and especially after a failed vaginal delivery is a much higher risk csection. Often the statistics combine all types of csections and makes planned csections look overall worse than they are.
I think they should be elective however if there is no medical need people should pay for the difference out of pocket. Insurance shouldnt have to pay.
They should not be encouraged as an elective procedure. The benefits do not out weigh the risks. C-sections should be done based on medical necessity not out of vanity, fear or for convenience.
A c-section will hurt more for longer.
Just get an epidural if you wamna avoid pain
I absolutely believe that she would get an elective c-section not medically required because it doesn’t take the baby into account at all. She obviously doesn’t have a midwife and doula because they would be guiding her to attempt a natural birth after doing exercises to turn the baby. I bet she’ll be cutting the cord immediately (which isn’t medically sound) and will be drugged to the hilt, which will drug her baby. Then since breastfeeding can hurt, she’ll formula feed the baby immediately, instead of even trying. She won’t research anything to see what’s best for her baby, so the doctors will make all the decisions – right or wrong. I just hope that she gets a good nanny for the child who stays with her until she turns 18, so that the child will have some love and stability. They should just go ahead and name the baby aKcessory.
She knows nothing about babies/children. Thinking a baby doesn’t walk for two years for example. She should be embarrassed
Right? And, she claims to spend so much time with Mason and Penelope. She should have recent experience if that’s true.
Not only can breastfeeding be painful, it’s a lot of work for someone who probably doesn’t want to be tied down that much.
And FYI, I’m planning on breastfeeding when my little one comes in a few weeks, so I’m not knocking BF – just pointing out KK’s probable reasoning of doing it the easy way.
breastfeeding is easier than a bottle once you get through the first 4-6 weeks
i’m dreading getting bottles of BM ready to take my daughter out today. but i don’t like breastfeeding in public
you’ll do great. just get everyone around you to support and encourage you. and don’t be afraid of asking for tips/advice
Pls give breast feeding a try, but if it doesn’t work out, don’t feel you have “failed”.
One argument for supplementing a bottle feeding while BF- my second baby got so attached to the breast that he refused to take a bottle at all! This went on till he weaned at about 10 mths! All this while keeping up with a toddler! Still don’t see how I survived!!
I’ve read that when a celebrity has a C-Section most of the time it’s because of STD.
True, and that is something to think about. Of course, having an STD doesn’t make someone a bad person at all. But let’s face it, celebrities get around. And some STDs can make childbirth risky for the baby. A c-section is the best choice for them.
Are there any STD infections besides HIV where a c-section is the standard of care?
I guess if you were in the midst of an active genital herpes outbreak then yes, you would probably get a c-section to protect the baby. But I can’t think of anything else.
They give you antiviral medication to decrease the likelihood of an outbreak.
Mainly herpes, HIV, and GBS are the infections you’re worried about with vaginal deliveries. Herpes in a newborn can lead to encephalitis. HIV in a baby is aggressive since their immune systems are so weak. GBS, which is found normally in our bodies (in the rear end) can cause meningitis in the baby. That’s why that screening takes place towards the end to assess the levels of that bacteria.
How will I feel after a cesarean delivery?
Like any new mother, you’ll probably feel both euphoric about and overwhelmed by the new person in your arms. But you’ll also be recovering from major abdominal surgery while dealing with typical postpartum issues such as engorged breasts, mood swings, and vaginal discharge.
C-section patients typically stay in the hospital for two to four days before going home. But your recovery will be measured in weeks, not days, so you’ll need help taking care of yourself and your new baby. What’s more, if you have other children, they may be feeling needy after you’ve been away from them for a few days – to say nothing of the fact that you’re returning home with a new baby! Plan to get all the help you can.
How will I feel right after surgery
You may feel groggy and possibly nauseated right after surgery. Nausea can last up to 48 hours, but your caregiver can give you medication to minimize your discomfort. Many moms also feel itchy all over, particularly those who received narcotics in their epidural or spinal. If this happens to you, let your caregiver know so you can get medication to relieve the itchiness.
What will I get for postpartum pain relief?
If you get an epidural or spinal for your c-section, your anesthesiologist may add morphine, which can provide excellent postpartum pain relief for up to 24 hours without the grogginess that comes from systemic narcotics. Some anesthesiologists leave the epidural in for 12 to 24 hours after surgery so you can get more medication through it if needed.
After that, you’ll be given systemic pain medication, usually pills containing a narcotic and possibly acetaminophen. It may help to take ibuprofen, too. You’ll also be given a stool softener to counteract the constipating effect of the narcotic.
If you have general anesthesia for your surgery or you don’t get a dose of morphine through your spinal or epidural afterward, you’ll be given systemic narcotics for immediate postpartum pain relief. You’ll either get a shot of pain medication every three to four hours or you’ll use a system called “patient-controlled analgesia”: You push a button when you’re feeling discomfort and medication is delivered through your IV. A machine controls the doses so you don’t get more than the safe amount.
In any case, don’t be shy about asking your nurse for more medication if you’re uncomfortable. You don’t need to suffer in silence, and the longer you wait to ask for the medication you need, the harder it will be to control the pain.
If the medication that’s been ordered for you isn’t working well enough, let your nurse know. If the nurse can’t help you, ask to see an obstetrician or anesthesiologist. The more comfortable you are, the easier it’ll be to breastfeed your baby and to get moving again.
It is NOT awful for everyone!
I was LUCKY, my labor was only 2 hours and I had NO drugs and it WASN’T that bad.
My friend was absolutely terrified of giving birth, and was really hoping that she’d be able to have a c-section. In the end, her waters broke, she laboured for about 3 hours and then pushed that sucker out in 30 minute!
Me too! I know we’re not in the majority, but it does happen!
I go quickly too and it hurts like a mofo – or it hurt ME like a mofo. The first time, I went in to the hospital in the middle of the night at around 2 cm. They gave me an epidural at 4 cm, maybe an hour or so later, so I could sleep. They woke me at 6 am – just a few hours later – and said my labor wasn’t progressing and gave me Pitocin. I went from 4 cm to birth in an hour & 45 minutes after that. The epidural did nothing for the pain after they introduced Pitocin. With my son, I could feel him coming out, but the nurses didn’t listen. They had checked me before and I was at 6 cm & didn’t feel like checking again. They ordered an epidural, I suppose to shut me up – and I swear to you – within 15 minutes of it being finished, my son was out. Not a comfortable feeling trying to sit upright & perfectly still on a baby that’s coming out hell or high water while they do an epidural. Total labor time for him was 45 minutes & I screamed bloody murder the whole entire time. Poor kid. The good news is that I was up and walking around almost immediately after popping him out. Almost completely back to normal. The bad news is when you go quickly, there’s nothing they can do for the pain. Or so my doctors told me.
I can’t believe that your were admitted at 2 cm! Many/most hospitals send people home for that little dilation.
Also, it is still possible to do epidurals even with a quick delivery. I went from 6 to 9.5 cm while they were getting me checked in, and I still opted for the epidural because I was in so much pain from (“back labor”) that I wasn’t able to push effectively. You do need skilled anesthesiologists who are willing (some do have the x cm limit) and you also need to be able to stay completely still, which can be hard for some as you get more and more dilated and the contractions are more frequent and powerful.
Ugh. She’s a full blown idiot. I just can’t with the Kardashian news anymore. A section is major surgery with a long recovery and potential complications. I ended up having one with my son (heart rate was going down weith every push) and it. was. terrible. I had breakthrough pain during the procedure and my incision ruptured like a week and a half after the birth. Fun times.
Yes, I too had one of those potential complications after my 2nd mandatory C-section. Septicemia with a temperature of 105° F. Spent one week in a semi-comatose condtion. And it took me about 2 years to really recover my health. As you say, fun times.
So I really don’t understand people who think a C-section is the easy way out.
Somehow I think that’s not the only reason she’s opting for a c-section. She probably wants a tummy-tuck done at the same time. So shallow.
She can get a tummy tuck at a later time. Vain!
If the rumors are true and Kayne does not want to be in the delivery room then he should not really have a say how the baby comes out. As for the pain, I had my kid the natural way with and epi and it hurt like hell when I had to push because my dr wanted me to have feeling for that part. I hear C sections are no walk in the park and the pain after along with recovery is longer. I am not judging and Kim should defer to her DR. Maybe she wants a C section because it will be cleaner to air on tv?
” “He wants an all-natural birth. ”
He should give one then.
so all of these pretenious too cutesy celebs NEEDED a c-section???
not believing it and I also beleive that they do plan them–money talks.
they get the two for one w/the tummy tuck..Heidi Klum-cough and many others.
soo many celebs get a c-sections, I find it hard to beleive that they ALL needed them…unless they all have vaginal stds.
BUT its their business, shrugs—
yep, she wants a C-section so she can get a tummy-tuck at the same time. You know it!
Please. She just doesn’t want to do the work required to give birth. I had two kids naturally and it’s no wonder they call it “labor”.. after both I felt like I did a HUGE amount of work, I was exhausted. And even though both were long, partly induced, with vacuum used etc. I’d still go for vaginal over C-section, having had a similar incision for a gyno surgery recently – the incision hurts like hell and you’re weak and sore. With an epidural vaginal delivery is not that bad.
I had worked for an unmedicated birth (home birth, midwives, Bradley classes, everything), but had to have a section. Trust me, though I wasn’t allowed to go into labor before my section, I “labored” plenty in the weeks after with surgical complications…
Hard labour is right minxx. I was literally falling asleep on the delivery table between contractions I was so tired.
Did Kim ever wonder how the baby would come out until now? Lord this woman is dumb as a box of rocks! That being said, it’s her body & if that’s how she wants to give birth, do it. She has gone thru this pregnancy alone, she can do whatever she pleases! I’d tell him to keep on stepping the way you have for the last 9 mo. He has no right to interject any opinion.
Oh please, she’s never alone, she always has PMK with her, her various flaky family members and her camera crew, not to mention the paps. When is she ever alone?
Of course she’s having a C-section..she’s already booked the tummy tuck and lipo
(probably getting her tubes tied too)
Because the baby is sitting in a way that applies pressure??????
Hello! All babies are applying pressure. Every pregnant woman can tell you that. She is so deluded to think that she’s the only one to ever experience discomfort during pregnancy.
And, I think these doctors that offer elective c-sections so the moms can have tummy tucks should lose their license.
Kim, the angels aren’t going to sprinkle fairy dust on you and make your baby magically appear. No matter which route you go, it’s gonna hurt like nobodies business!
Kanye, butt out! The way your baby comes into the world is 100% NONE of your business. Not your hoo-ha? Not your problem.
Finally, Kim and I agree on something. I’m petrified of her giving birth too.
Best comment!!
Before Baguette was born, I was nervous about giving birth. But what I really wanted to avoid was a C-section. I’d have had one if I needed it for the health of me or my baby, but I didn’t want one, and was relieved that I didn’t have to.
LOL at baguette. That is both cute and hilarious.
Totally agree. I wanted to avoid a C-section if at all possible. Major abdominal surgery with significant risk of complications. Not what I wanted to be contending with as I was responsible for a new life.
This ‘natural’ birth vs ‘too posh to push’ stuff really annoys me. You know what else is ‘natural’? Smallpox. As long as she’s not endangering herself or the baby, she should be able to give birth however she wants, and with whatever medical assistance she wants and needs.
AGREED!!!! I certainly don’t judge women for how they have their children, (I try to reserve my judgment for how they raise them 😉 But seriously, too posh to push?!? How is bullying or belittling a woman who is already terrified of the impending labor (and its subsequent responsibilities) helping? Having a child is a painful, difficult thing, raising a child is a painful, difficult thing, no one is going to do either the same way for all the same reasons.
I’m so tired of hearing the “If you want a C-section/if you’re scared about your post baby body/insert dead horse to beat here” then you’re not ready/deserving to be a mom. Bulls**t. You’re not brave if you’re not scared. Kudos to the moms out there brave enough to voice their concerns, regardless of the judgmental harpies waiting to feast on the fears of these moms-to-be thereby satiating their own harpy insecurities.
As practical as it is in theory, we rarely learn from others mistakes. Instead we put our own spin on the problem and fall on our face despite the warnings (sometimes warranted, sometimes not). Nobody knows everything, and nobody knows your body better than YOU. Instead of condemning a mom-to-be for valid fears, educate her, support her, reaffirm that either choice is fine, the focus is health and happiness. As in nearly everything, compromise is essential, even in personal sacrifice.
I agree that a mom shouldn’t be bullied over the way she has her baby.
However, in general, a person who has never given birth before is not offered an elective c-section. It’s medically proven that c-sections should only be used when necessary and not be an option just because you don’t want to go through childbirth. I feel that these celebrity OB’s should be working under the same system that all the other OB’s are working. So, my beef isn’t with the mothers, it’s with the doctors.
FWIW, I’ve had natural births and a c-section.
It’s irresponsible to encourage women to have medically unnecessary surgeries. I really don’t care if it offends those who like to feel free to make ill informed decisions.
Don’t worry. Kim will get whatever she wants because she can afford it.
The word and “Kim” and “educated” might as well be “matter” and “anti-matter.”
Amen to you.
Every single medical intervention, from penicillin to dentistry is unnatural.
If the natural way is the only way to do it, then there shouldn’t be epidurals and resort to emergency c-sections because nature didn’t intend that.
Am i being literal? Yes, but so are the ‘natural’ birth ladies.
Meh. I just wrote it upthread, but c-sections cost double or triple what vag births cost, and have higher maternal and neonatal risks, including death. It’s major abdominal surgery and I don’t think ACOG supports its use unless medically indicated.
This is a specious argument. A c-section would be the small pox in your metaphor – that is the choice that has been proven to be more dangerous and worse for the baby and mother. Too many mothers make the birth all about them and don’t consider things like what is best for the baby.
AGREED +2!
Why do women keep trying to apply their personal experience to everyone else!!! Guess what, both c-section and vaginal birth have pros and cons! Let the mums and their doctors choose what is best for them and stop being so f* judgmental! Jesus…
My birthing experience was ruined because I had a c-section. I wanted so desperately to have a natural, unmedicated child birth. I was handling my contractions well, even my OB was shocked. Suddenly my little one’s heart rate dropped and I was rushed into the OR. I was terrified. I wish things would have gone how I wanted then to. I wouldn’t wish a c-section recovery on anyone. The searing pain is like nothing I’ve ever experienced. Also having to learn how to go to the bathroom again was very difficult.
Sorry to hear that. If it helps, going to the bathroom after vaginal birth with stitches sucks too 🙁
Sometimes c-sections are necessary. I take care of an adult whose brain was damaged during natural childbirth, his mother refused a c-section. During childbirth, the oxygen supply to his brain was cut off by the umbilical cord, and his brain never progressed past the infant stage. He is in an institution and will remain there for the rest of his life. Its sad that his mother did not want a c-section and insisted on a natural delivery instead.
I just had my second c-section 4 months ago (first was twins, second I also had hernia surgery and tubal ligation) and, yeah, it hurt like a motherloving biatch. Second hurt a LOT more b/c of the additional procedures. I WISH I could have had vaginal births.
Had to vaginal births one c- section I’m 5 ft 2 and small framed the first baby was 8 pounds the last was the smallest and delivered c- section due to the fact he had Down syndrome I would choose vaginal birth any day over c- section the recovery is awful!
The way I got over my fear was this: get some perspective! Women have been giving birth since the dawn of time. It’s natural, your body knows what to do, and you will recover. Your mother did it, your grandmother did it, you can do it.
I ended up with two vaginal births, both unmedicated (not by choice). And I survived!
ITA! So many women have done this since the dawn of time with no drugs medical intervention or moral support. Its what a woman’s body is designed to do! Now for the moms with serious complications thank goodness we have docs hospitals surgery medicine….etc. but I really cant with this “too posh to push” or the “having a kid naturally freaks me out” maybe you shouldn’t have gotten pregnant if you don’t want the trouble of delivering it…heaven forbid these young entitled ladies go through labour. Millions of other women did it without drugs! Grow up!
Yeah and it was the number one cause of death for women and babies for the vast majority of this time.
Jeez ladies.
“Scared of the pain?” You do realize that most pregnant women aren’t thrilled by the pain of childbirth?
As someone who has had two babies– GROW UP, Kim. Being scared is normal. Having an elective surgery (and using “size” as an excuse- YAWN) when she does not need one is just not smart. I’m (GASP) siding with Kanye on this one– and, yes, I was terrified before the birth of my first.
A doctor can’t determine the size of your unborn baby. I know so many people who had to be induced “early” because the doctor swore it was a 10 pound baby and out came a 7 pounder.
My doctor told me my daughter would be 6 and she was 9 pounds. The technology just is not there for sizing at the later months.
I hope she poops on the table and someone captures THAT on Instagram.
Part of the reason the doctors may say the baby is so big is that they need a “medical reason” to justify the C-section or induction to the insurance companies.
Being born early, especially electively, is also bad for babies. Even electives births that are fullterm but early (i.e. 37 or 38 weeks) have been associated with increased rates of psychiatric and cognitive problems. Babies are born when they are for a reason.
Geez, childbirth is relatively painless compared to the next 18 years…just kidding…for life.
This vapid famewhore should find a way to shoot the kid out her ass, since she somehow found a way to get pg that way.
Ever hear of an epidural? Jeez. It doesn’t hurt THAT much! When did women become such wimps? And yes I had a vaginal birth! And no I don’t have a big ol’ vagina from it!
Man, I would have LOVED to birth either of my girls without getting my uterus chopped up. That wasn’t even the worst part, honestly. Since you are given antibiotics during a c, which pass the barrier into breastmilk, both my girls got intractable cases of thrush, which is painful and extremely difficult to get rid of (took eighteen months with one daughter, and my other daughter has had it since she was five days old with no sign of letting up anytime soon). It can also cause the baby’s lungs and heart not to function the right way, since the process of labor helps the organ systems start functioning.
Gawd, the thrush. I am so grateful that the antifungals for both baby and me worked. Nursing was like torture.
So true. A lot of people don’t understand the beneficial physiologic effects of labor and vaginal delivery for the baby.
I wish I could get my “Blue Steel” to look like Kim’s in that second pic.
Apparently it causes obese children in later years. It’s not a natural process but sometimes necessary.
And everyone else is terrified of hearing about her boring childbirth stories. News flash, ladies: everyone was born. There’s nothing remarkable, newsworthy or interesting about it.
No insurance company is paying for an unnecessary surgical procedure just because someone doesn’t feel like going through childbirth. People are really ignorant.
Also, I will never get tired of seeing her chubby feet stuffed into those shoes. What was she thinking?
I was terrified too and, honestly, with the epidural, it was fine. It was a LOT easier than I expected. Get the pain killers and it should be ok…
It’s not like I expect great attention to detail or accuracy in reporting from these mags, but… A “natural” childbirth is not the same thing as a vaginal childbirth, and an elective, planned csection is not a emergency csection.
Oh sweet Yeezus, those feet!!!
Her face looks like a mask of someone else on the cover.
She cares about nothing but her own vanity, so she’ll do whatever is best for herself in that regard.
Just last week on her show, she was telling the doctor she wanted to eat her placenta, for sure, to help her stay young looking.
Can you do that with a C-section?
I had to have C-sections with my babies (they were unable to turn at all – turns out my uterus was deformed) and let me tell you it wasn’t fun at all. IMO it took away from the birth experience. I wanted an all natural birth, to wait before cutting the cord so we could have skin on skin time right away. I wasn’t even able to hold my first baby for the first 12 hours afterward becuase I was shaking so much from the shock. It was aweful. And I was never able to breastfeed (just didn’t produce enough milk – yes it happens quite often with C-sections). I was devasted and the recovery aweful when you have a baby to take care of as well. I’ve since also had a hysterectomy and although its been a year I still don’t feel 100%. And I was awake during my C-sections and during my second one I heard a nurse say “I’ve never seen that before” and “oops” NOT what to hear during major surgery.
I can’t believe how immature she is, read a book sheesh there are plenty on childbirth and pregnancy and children and I just don’t see this woman having any connection with her unborn child at all. I think its so sad.
I haven’t read all the comments so sorry if someone already mentioned the fact that with a c section she can get her tummy tucked and fat vacuumed out at the same time. Then some big clothes for a few months, then she can tell everyone how hard it was to lose her pregnancy weight and then the big reveal. She acts like she’s the first woman to ever give birth. Edited to add….. just looked at the pics and LOOK AT THOSE SAUSAGES she calls feet. I understand your feet swell while pregnant but surely she could have found some more flattering footwear :/
Sorry when it was allegedly said that the baby is large and was applying pressure I was thinking if the doctor mistook her ass for the baby. That injected ass probably has its own heartbeat.
A great pic of Kim & Kanye:
http://www.zergnet.com/news/59107/hilarious-look-at-celebrities-turned-into-regular-people
I just read Kanye’s 5 page interview interesting piece.. There were parts where u want to choke him and other parts it was like ok I get what Ur saying..
Maybe Kai can post tidbits of it
As long as the woman giving birth makes an informed decision about the choice of delivery, and mother & baby are healthy, then IMO that’s all that should matter.
I am 3rd of four children, and was born by C-section. So were all 3 of my siblings. Yes, my mother had FOUR C-sections starting with my older sister who was breech. At the time, she was 5’1″ and very petite. All of us were born healthy and normal.
No complications and little pain with my Mum’s incision. She was out of the hospital in 3 days for each of the birth and moving around the house in a week. She also breastfed with all 4 babies. Never had nannies to help raise 4 kids.
No woman is weak or a wimp for getting pregnant, delivering, and raising a child. It takes more than the choice of giving birth to determine the strength of a mother.
If you gave birth naturally, good for you! If some gave birth by C-section, good for them too! I hope your babies are all happy and healthy.
As for Kim, who knows what she really wants to do. Hopefully her child will be healthy and will be raised in a good environment. And maybe she will also realize the need to get better shoes. Her feet in the photo above looks painful and the magazine cover looks so ugly.
If someone chooses an elective C-section, I would argue that they are likely not informed as to the many benefits of vaginal delivery for the baby and mother as well as the risks and long recovery time of a C-section.
I don’t think Kim is just afraid of the vaginal birth. I think she’s scared to death of an episiotomy.
I have two kids, both were under seven pounds, and never needed an episiotomy or a stitch. But my sister, who deserves a medal, had three huge kids, one over ten pounds, and she never had one, or needed stitches either. I guess we’re just flexible or something.
Anyway, I went back to normal, Kegel exercises restored everything, and except for college tuition bills and some gray hair, you might not know I had kids. Buck up, Kimmy. Motherhood isn’t for sissies and the birth process is just the beginning. Once you’re a mom, you’re a mom forever. That “worry” switch gets flipped on and never switches off. It’s a heck of a ride, but worth every minute.
C-sections should NOT be elective, period. Vaginal delivery colonizes the baby’s gut with good bacteria. Why c-section babies are at risk for allergies. Epidurals pretty much remove the pain of childbirth, women can just do that if they need to, it’s so clear really.
Unless you have tons of money like Lucifer’s Army here, you have to go natural unless the doctor deems the C-Section as needed. At least that was what they told me and I live in Washington state.
Kim probably cares not about the drugs she’s going to be on and how it passes to the baby, she’ll be high and that’s the first thing I thought as to why she wanted the C-Section in the first place. My sister-in-law had to get a C-Section and she was in the worst pain of her life. They have to push down on your stitched up stomach to help with the uterus after birth and she said she cried the whole time. She had to have help for the next couple of weeks because it hurt to lean down to pick up or put her son in the crib. I’m sure Crowley up here with have all the help from Lucifer, Lilith, and Alistar.
(Who ever gets those references I will love you forever.)
Childbirth isn’t anything to be scared of. I’d go back and have my daughter every day. It was too late for me to get an epidural and while natural did hurt, you don’t remember it really. It comes and goes quickly. I cringe more when I remember being burned by cooking oil. So don’t worry ladies, it seems scary but the pain is so worth it in the end.
Supernatura! Lol
I have nothing new to add to this conversation. Everything’s already been said
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It’s really shameful that so many of you think a c-section means “weakness” or “fear”. A c-section is normally done as a last resort, often after hours and HOURS of painful labor (as was the case with me). If you popped out your baby after 20 minutes of pushing and a 2 hour labor then you really need to STFU about what most women go through prior to having a c-section. Birth is difficult and painful no matter how you do it.
If you had a c/s OR a vaginal birth, you are a success. You are a strong woman. You are a good mom. Same goes for formula feeding or breastfeeding. Get something to actually be proud of instead of boasting about something you cannot control (whether your body pushed out a kid or not). Big freaking deal!
Unfortunately, the vast majority of c-sections in this country are not emergencies, but scheduled. And they are scheduled for convenience or because mommy is afraid. I find it ironic that women fear a vaginal birth but have no issue with a spinal epidural and being torn from side to side.
I had my first with an epidural (back labor), my second “natural,” and my third as an emergency c-section (almost lost my son). There is no contest: the natural was far and away the best for me and baby. Do I feel that the others were “lesser” births? No way, but I wish all three could have been naturals.
You are misinformed if you think that is what most C-sections are in the US. Some do happen how you describe, but most are elective.
And even pushing a while is negotiable. I was in labor for over two days, pushing for 3.5 hours. No c-section (although they wanted to do one after 3 hours).
To cut or not to cut. That is the question.
I’m pregnant and I have read SO MANY articles and websites and stories of mothers on both sides, and I believe I do want to have a natural birth. I had a natural 2nd trimester miscarriage, and while it was sad, there is nothing like the rush you get when your body is in labor and you push all that stuff out yourself. I had about 2 liters worth of golf ball sized clots, baseball sized placenta, avocado sized fetal sac coming out of me and while that didn’t involve the stretching pain of a full term fetus, I still got the same rush I hear about from women who have had uncomplicated natural home births. I had no meds to ease the excruciating contractions and no help, I was all alone in my bathroom. But it’s like you go into a trance and the pain is HELL but once it’s over it’s like the best natural high I know of, better than any high I got when I was speedballing in my drug addict days. I can’t imagine how much better that high would be with a healthy little baby in my arms after the ordeal was all over.
I am going to do everything I can to have a natural birth, hopefully at home.
Kim is probably worried about tearing, which can be avoided to some extent if you labor down and don’t lay on your back, legs wide open stretching that skin to begin with. Supine is such a bad position to give birth in, IMO.
I absolutely believe she wants to section and tummy tuck.
But Kanye doesn’t give a SHIT either way.
If she’s that afraid of pain, why does she insist on wearing those terrible shoes that probably hurt her feet like plastic-y hell?
I’ve had both a c-section and “natural”, in that order and for me the c-section was so much easier.
Second bub was an emergency forceps delivery after 12 hours of labour and I was so messed up they took 3 hours to stitch me up and stop the bleeding. Then it was months of physio to get my pelvic floor functioning properly again. No more babies for me, thank you very much.
“Natural,” which many in the birth community no longer use (unmedicated is the preferred term) refers only to not using drugs, not a vaginal birth.
You had a complicated vaginal birth, not necessarily a natural one. Natural means no epidural, no pitocin, no other meds.
Of course she’s getting the c-section tummy tuck combo. How is that news? This bimbo wouldn’t make any choice that isn’t governed first by her needs – I doubt she ever thinks about that child.
Without judging whether or not the c-section is elective and whether that’s medically sound, I will say this: If Kanye wants a natural childbirth so badly, HE should be the one to squeeze out a bowling ball.
If men had the babies, they would each only have ONE!
If men had to have the babies our species would be extinct.
I have given birth twice and the pain is actually the last thing I remember. Of course it is not a “walk in the park”, but it was definitely not something so terrible. And it is true that (in most cases) it’s much easier to recover after “pushing” than after the c-section. Not to mention the benefits for the baby who is meant to enter this world exactly like this.
I am not against c-sections when performed for medical reasons, but it is so not the case far too often these days
Aren’t ALL women afraid of childbirth? I mean, I had three kids, and even after I knew what i was getting into, I was still afraid. She is not some unique little flower who feels things no one else feels.
SUCK IT UP, KIM. As a mother, you have to do tons of things that frighten and/or disgust you. It’s part of the selflessness of being a mother. This is why we get cards and breakfast in bed once a year. Welcome to it.
As an aside, my doctor never gave me an option for a C section (and I didn’t need one, thank goodness). My insurance wouldn’t have covered it unless it were medically necessary.
Yeah but with her money she isn’t going to have to worry about dealing with anything disgusting or even having to deal with her child at all. Kourtney has already said that Kim only uses her niece and nephew as a photo op. I doubt this woman has any type of motherly instinct.
Kim’s probably lying about the due date, I think she’ll end up having it at the end of this month. I’m sure they’ll be able to twist it into ‘Kim’s so stressed from her relationship with Kanye that it caused her to go into labor early.’ Then she’ll get interviews about having an ‘early’ birth and how ‘hard it is being a mom’ and what not.
I just wouldn’t put it past her at all.
Great comment 🙂 What makes it all worthwhile for you to go through all of this – and are you glad you had kids?
She looks too big to deliver vaginally. She still has another month to go, and babies grow a lot during the last three weeks in utero.
Geepers. There’s a huge misconception in our our society that giving birth via C-Section is a walk in the park…..WRONG! That couldn’t be further from the truth. It’s major surgery and many suffer from complications with anesthesia and the surgery itself. Given the choice, and I’ve had three children, I would choose an induced birth with an epidural every single time. It’s a controlled environment with little pain and the child suffers little trauma in the process. Whomever started the myth that C-sections are the way to go is an idiot. Must have been a male OB/GYN who likes to make money by scaring women.
Actually, I know a number of young women who subscribe to the Kim K world view and in their vain, shallow minds the c-section is cleaner and easier. They don’t want to be bothered by facts, they just want to be stylish and get their bodies back right away. I Don’t know what 50’s glossy mag they’re all reading but they all seem to think the c-section is some kind of miracle get out the baby free card. Idiots.
Does this debate over vaginal birth vs. C-section ever end? And moms, please stop judging each other. *sigh*
I had an elective C-section because I was scared of the delivery. Plain and simple and no shame to admit this! I don’t live in the US, so I went to a local private hospital, scheduled the date, went in about 30 minutes prior to the surgery, spent 5 days in the hospital and got home with my precious baby boy. Yes, it’s a major surgery so it’s painful too, but I wanted to choose rather the kind of pain that I know it’s coming than a vaginal delivery that I don’t have any idea of. A bit of an type-A personality… so what? All in all, the birth cost me about 10K that I paid with my husband for.
I have some friends that have had kids via vaginal deliveries and in a few cases, the child has got CP because a lack of oxygen at birth. The vaginal delivery is very risky too! And it’s impossible to say which one is faster to recover from, C-section or natural birth. Depends how much you tear, etc. I was back doing sports 6 weeks after my operation, but that was just my body and my experience. But recovering from the surgery didn’t in any way get in the way of taking care of my newborn. The good thing was, I wasn’t exhausted at all from the labor, so I had that much more energy at the very first moments.
Ladies, if you want a drug-free birthing experience, to deliver in the pool, at home, whatever, good for you. Go for it! But don’t judge my choice to get an elective C-section because I was scared. My body, my baby, my choice.
It’s not as good for your baby and gives your baby extra risk. You can and should be judged for your choices if they are selfish and to the detriment of your children.
Actually medical evidence shows that planned csections may actually be less risky than vaginal, despite whatever misinformation you are basing your judgements on. I work for a company that publishes a database of nonbiased medical evidence and distributes to healthcare professionals and universities all over the world. Perhaps you should stop judging now.
Did you know that 90% of statistics are made up on the spot? Don’t criticize others for questionable sources when you then site your own, doesn’t give your argument any credibility.
Bore. She cares only about herself, her mother and Kanye in that order. She is having this baby for reasons but I do not believe mothering is one of them.
That is how dumb Kim K is. She thinks unnecessary surgery carries less risk than birth. Doesn’t Kanye have a perspective on this?
I’ve never had a baby, but I can vouch for the women who are saying a c-section is way worse. I had major gynecological surgery on my ovaries back when I was 30 and I got the full “c-section” cut…straight across and the scar is still visable 18 yrs later. Because I wasn’t pregnant, there was no tummy skin flap, but MAN was there pain (and bruising). It was a week before I could stand up straight. And coughing or sneezing? God help you and be sure to grab a pillow and press it hard against your abdomen before you do. Oh – and because they open you up, air gets in. Air that has to come out. So they’ll force you to get up and start walking around in agony to work the air out or you get an enema. Lovely choice. Remember: your body is meant to birth a baby. It’s not meant to be sliced open.
I had an elective c-section. Told my doc at 7 months that the baby wasn’t coming out vaginally, so it would have to be the other option. He was fine with it, and my insurance company was overjoyed. There is a lower risk of birth injury with scheduled c-sections, than with vaginal births.
I had a healthy baby without one minute of pain. I was up and walking within 11 hours, home after 48 hours. Didn’t even need the Lortab they gave me…just a little ibuprofen. Was out walking with the baby on day three, and was back to the gym/running five weeks post surgery.
My doctor is the head of OB/GYN at a university teaching hospital in a big Western City. Not a quack. He didn’t encourage this choice, but totally supported it. And, at my six week checkup post birth, he made a comment about how I dodged the risk of pelvic prolapse and other nasty birth-related side-effects by having a C.
I respect every woman’s choice of how to have birth. I’m the only person I know who did it this way, and I’ve never lectured my friends who went natural about their choice. But.. I got a lot of criticism about my choice from the “natural crowd.” That’s why I’m a bit passionate about pointing out that an elective c-section can be a really great option, and does have some benefits.
Off soapbox now. Can’t stand Kim, but would give her a little more credit for taking a stand for the birth she wants.
I went natural, and loved it. But I knew from the get-go that’s what I wanted. And I think that’s the beauty of it–a woman’s right of choice. So, you (nor Kim, even though I can’t stand her either) won’t get shade from me.
I dont think she needs to worry. I am sure it will just stand up and walk straight out.
Did you ever notice that a good portion of celebrities opt for C Sections?
I think there is some other reason for it.
When Christina Aguilera did it people were saying they do some type of tummy tuck at the same time. I don’t see how that’s physically possible, but I do think there is something fishy.
Ok I know this was yesterday but I just have to say somethinG. Never ThouGht I’d seemThe day where I was in on tHis kind of debaTe but I do feel if a woman wants a c section because she’s scared to push or doesn’t want to ” destroy her vajaja” is nt ready to be a mother at all. Our bodies were made to carry and give birth to children. I don’t think anyone should ever go into to birthing ready to give up and have a c section now if the doctor tells u UR baby or u could die of course domwhatnu have to do but remember that that is why God made women the ones to bring children into this world … We were built strong and tough our bodies and minds were custom built for the task. I
Hmmm…crazy…I don’t seem to be a lesser mother for having chosen an elective C. My friends who had epidurals are awesome mothers too, as are my friends who went totally natural. We all made choices about how we wanted our children born, and we have all made pretty good moms.
Weird how critical women want to be about one another when it comes to childbirth and breastfeeding.
Haha…because of the pain. One should think she’s used to that, considering her attire and shoes…which look really painful and uncomfortable most of the time.
Joking aside…does she really think that a C-section won’t hurt? Really? It may be less painfull than pushin’ the baby out, but it sure ain’t no walk in the park. I wonder if women who think c-sections are just more convienient than natural births really thought things through.
Are you fing kidding me? Natural child birth is not as painful and not as hard? I pushed for three hours, was torn open and have never been in more pain during or after childbirth in my life. Idiots. I wasn’t right for 6 months. My vagina will still never be the same.
Are you fing kidding me? Natural child birth isn’t as painful or as hard to recover from? I pushed for three hours, was ripped open, had never been in more pain during or afterwards in my life and wasn’t right for 6 months. I couldn’t even stand up. My vagina will still never be the same.
Are you fing kidding me? Natural child birth isn’t as painful or as hard to recover from? I pushed for three hours, was ripped open, had never been in more pain during or afterwards in my life and wasn’t right for 6 months. I couldn’t even stand up. My body will still never be the same.
Are you kidding me? Natural child birth isn’t as painful or as hard to recover from? I pushed for three hours, was ripped open, had never been in more pain during or afterwards in my life and wasn’t right for 6 months. I couldn’t even stand up. My body will still never be the same.