Jon Gosselin plans to sue Kate for primary custody of sextuplets, ‘they live in fear’

Jon Gosselin on the Wendy Williams show
I don’t know where to start with this story. Whenever I try to take a parent’s side, I end up concluding that they both suck and that the kids would be better off with caring relatives. (You thought I was going to say “being raised by wolves” didn’t you?) Who is there for them other than their famous parents, each deeply flawed in different ways? (Kate’s brother and sister-in-law tried to advocate for the children five years ago, but we haven’t heard from them since. It’s safe to assume that Kate pushed them out of the children’s lives.)

That’s preface to the fact that Jon Gosselin is now claiming, on the cover of In Touch no less, that he’s going to sue Kate for primary custody of his 9 year-old sextuplets. The last time we reported on Jon he was living in a cabin in the woods, driving drunk with a local journalist in tow, and working as a waiter. He since got a gig as a contestant/D-list celebrity on VH1’s Couple’s Therapy, and is continuing to trash Kate to the press. While I think he’s accurately describing what a taskmaster and piece of work Kate is, I question whether he’s a viable alternative as a parent, and whether he should be making his concerns so public. Jon thinks he’s helping his kids, though, and says he at least has to try. Here’s what Jon told In Touch:

Jon Gosselin is taking Kate to court again! Jon reveals the bombshell news in an exclusive new interview with In Touch, explaining to the mag that he plans to sue for primary custody of 9-year-old sextuplets Aaden, Alexis, Collin, Hannah, Joel and Leah, and give them a chance at a normal childhood.

“They live in fear of Kate,” Jon says in the new issue of In Touch, on newsstands now. “Every time I see them, they tell me they want to live with me.”

His twins’ appearance on the Today show was the last straw, Jon tells In Touch. He claims Kate violated their custody agreement by not giving him the option of watching the younger six kids when she took Mady and Cara out of Pennsylvania.

“First, I’m going to file for an emergency petition for contempt … The next step is to fight for custody,” says Jon, who adds that he will file as soon as he saves enough money for lawyers and paperwork fees. “It’s the only way I can protect the younger six.”

Jon can’t bear to see his children suffer anymore — and he believes that seeking custody is the only option he has left.

“Regardless of what the judge decides, I have to at least try,” says Jon. “I just wish Kate would wake up, realize how she’s behaving — and change her ways.”

[From In Touch]

That last sentence tells me that Jon realizes he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell, but that he’s trying to send a message to Kate that she needs to show him respect as a co-parent. He wants to put her on notice for both trying to trot the kids out in the media again, and violating their custody agreement.

We heard earlier this week that Jon hasn’t had contact with his 13 year-old twin daughters, Mady and Cara, in over nine months. Radar Online claimed that Jon had signed away the right to veto any media appearances for the children in exchange for not having to pay child support. The twins felt abandoned or something, although it’s likely that their mother is convincing them that Jon is not to be trusted. Apparently Jon has seen the younger kids, since he’s claiming that they’re telling him how much they prefer him over his ex-wife. Again, neither scenario bodes well for these poor kids, but I do see Kate as the more responsible parent, as well as the more severe, manipulative one. It’s Kate’s way or the highway while Jon is still bumbling around, finding his way.

Jon Gosselin on the Wendy Williams show



Jon is shown outside the Wendy Williams show last week. Photo credit: Fameflynet and

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  1. smevelyn says:

    How awfu to have your dad only fight for custody of some of his children. If I was one of the twins, this would damage my relationship with my dad further.

    • Enid says:

      I am not 100% sure on the custodial laws in their state, but in many states once a child turns 12 or 14, they can determine where they want to go.

    • Winosarus-rex says:

      In a lot of states the kids can make the decision when they turn 13 on whom they want to live with. That’s what happened for me when my parents got divorced, and most of the other people I know. The twins are old enough to make that decision, but the younger ones aren’t, so he has a better shot of it. it’s doesn’t mean he’s not inviting the twins as well, but (of course I don’t know the full custody arrangement) even if he fights for it, unless he can prove Kate is negligent and abusive the twins can still say no.

  2. teri says:

    I can’t even imagine having that many kids full time. I can believe she has to have a tight rein on them so they aren’t running around like hoodlums. I don’t for a minute think she planned to raise them alone, even if she was a major douche.

    • judyjudy says:

      Of course she didn’t plan to raise them alone. From the second they popped out she’s been hustling to get other people to pay for them and manage them.

      • teri says:

        So she’s damned if she does work and damned if she doesn’t? Get over yourself.
        As far as I’m concerned she’s the only one out making money to not mootch off tax payers.

      • Jennifer12 says:

        @teri, I don’t understand. She doesn’t work. I don’t like either parent, but Jon was working for a while. The only job Kate wants is on TV so she can get attention and have nannies to raise the kids. She hasn’t had any job since TV, except a brief foray into couponing. They both chase reality TV roles. Kate is, I believe, a nurse, but hasn’t bothered to get a job doing so since she found she could sell her kids.

    • deehunny says:

      @Jennifer– I think she has built a nestegg when she was “hot” so I think that’s how she’s getting by without working. Raising all those kids must be a crazy fulltime job. I’d rather work any day.

      @Teri– Her ship is run incredibly tight. She was on “Wife Swap” with Kendra Wilkinson (it was reported on this website) and I recorded the episode since I was curious how she made Kendra cry. Every minute of the day is planned, from breakfast in the morning until bedtime. She has a strict schedule in writing that all the children adhere by.

  3. Nashville Girl says:

    Michael Lohan 2.0.

  4. Belle Epoch says:

    Signing away his rights to 2 of his kids to avoid child care payments was a TERRIBLE move. It would be easy peasy for Kate to turn those two against their dad. Has he given up on them completely? Those poor kids.

    • Anastasia says:

      He didn’t sign away his rights to ANY of his kids. No such court document exists to support such a theory.

      • JudyK says:

        Thank you Anastasia. I remember you from years ago trying to expose Kate for what she is. You are absolutely right…and informed.

        Jon has always been the loving parent. I totally believe the little ones have told him they’d prefer to live with him. He’s doing the best he can with the kids.

        I don’t understand his choice in women at all, including the current girlfriend, but he loves his kids…all of them.

    • Tammy says:

      He did not sign away his rights… he agreed to waive any right he had to OBJECT to the children being on TV in exchange for not having to pay child support. That is not selling his kids like Kate has told her two oldest children nor is it signing away his rights. CHILD SUPPORT is separate from has nothing to do with the other. Do I agree with it? No. But all it is an agreement where he does not have to pay child support in exchange for not fighting Kate about the kids being on TV>

    • Lauraq says:

      My biological father did that to me and my two siblings. No more visitation in exchange for no more child support. Thankfully, it made it easier for my real Dad (not biological father, but real Dad. Some people call him my stepfather, but I find that inaccurate) to adopt us.

  5. Shannon1972 says:

    Those poor kids. Seriously, they need a real advocate…the Gosselin parents’ priorities in life are seriously screwed up. This debacle must be so humiliating for the kids.

  6. QQ says:

    UGH both of these people are so gross and greedy

  7. Lucy2 says:

    As soon as he got a bit of attention again, he’s right back to trash reality shows and talking to tabloids. He is just as bad as her.
    Those poor kids. There has to be tension among all the kids too, which is sad.

    • Erinn says:

      I won’t say he’s as bad as her, because I have never once seen him abusing his children. She would yank on these kids, and hit them on camera. God knows what she did when people weren’t watching.

      Jon’s no Saint, but watching that show for even a few minutes shows what kind of hell he was living with her. She treated him like another one of the kids.

      • JudyK says:

        Exactly, and don’t even get me started on how she treated the dogs and how she still treats the one dog. Just like with the kids, Jon was the one who cared for the dogs and showed them affection.

        They were just messy objects to Kate. She’s as cold as a winter freeze.

      • Lucinda says:

        I too only watched a few minutes of one episode and was pretty horrified by the way she talked to her children and her husband. I find it telling how many people have had that same experience. He has his issues for sure but I don’t think he abuses his children. I can’t say the same for her.

  8. Marigold says:

    Hmm…I don’t think I buy that he contracted to not pay child support. Typically, that kind of arrangement wouldn’t be accepted by the court.

  9. Dame Snarkweek says:

    This creepwad has always known what a soulless shrew of a harpy his ex-wife is. Where was his motivation to help his kids when he was living out his frat years with Ed Hardy and Michael Lohan? The Gosselin and Kardashian-Jenner girls should jusst all move in with Bruce Jenner. At least the kids would finally have a kind hearted, compassionate mom.

    • Miffy says:

      Oh you can see Bruce breaking out his best Doris Day for his new brood.

    • Frida_K says:

      Too bad the little Sheen boys couldn’t be added to this list…maybe they could go too? Get them away from Brooke, Charlie, and the Skank o’ the Month…?

      A good mom with a kind heart is what all of the above kids need, and yes, I do agree that they’d get one at Bruce’s.

    • Dame Snarkweek says:

      Exactly! Bruce probably went through all the rings of hell with PMK so he would know how to not let history repeat itself with these poor kids. Nothing but love, guidance, nurturing and mani/pedis. And they can pick up baby North on the way to kindergym. I love thiss idea.

    • Tulip Garden says:

      Was Kate always a soulless shrew? Genuine question because I only watched their show once and that woman made me want to punch her and Jon made me want to scream, “Set a boundary and keep it with this woman for the love of God”. NEVER watched it again but have read blogs about them. Anyway, opinions wanted: Did fame make Kate this way or was Kate always this way?

    • Dame Snarkweek says:

      It is hard to say, but from the early days of the show it was easy to see that she was wound pretty tightly. As time wore on that degenerated into full-blown bitchmode. Money and fame does not shape your character, it exposes it. This woman is a nasty piece of work.

      • Tulip Garden says:

        Thanks for your answer. I agree that her character was exposed by fame. Also, I believe that without the fame, she might have been forced to check herself (or been checked by someone close to her). But, as we all know, the famous are immune to the same societal expectations that the rest of us are (or so they think).

      • Green Girl says:

        She’s always seemed wound up to me, but I guess I would be, too, if I were in charge of eight kids. I am not condoning or excusing her behavior, BTW.

        Look at the McCaughey septuplets instead. They do a big family interview every year or two, and that’s fine. They get some notoriety, but the kids generally live normal lives.

  10. Dawn says:

    I watched the show until it became Kate + 8 and it was obvious that the kids were over it, especially the Twins. So I do believe that they all in fear of that woman and I suuport Jon and hope he wins custody. Kate is one of those people who needs an intervention for meaness.

  11. Anastasia says:

    About 50% of the stuff reported about Jon is wrong. Kate is a master manipulator, and is trying to keep the older girls from Jon. However, locals have seen all eight kids with Jon as recently as Christmas (there’s a very up to date, detailed blog just about this couple and long time locals occasionally post).

    Kate is a narcissist and a horrible parent. Jon’s not perfect, but he’s a loving dad, and her little games are hurting her kids.

    He’s has legal right of first refusal, meaning he is always supposed to be allowed to watch them before she gets a babysitter, but when she took the two older girls to NY for those disastrous appearances on talk shows (on which they were supposed to trash talk their dad), she left the younger six with a babysitter and didn’t tell Jon. She also took the older two out of state without informing him, which she is also not supposed to do.

    She plays games, and she thinks she’s infallible.

    • Erinn says:

      I agree with this. She’s always twisted things. People automatically shit on Jon because I think a lot of women can unfortunately relate to dealing with deadbeats, and it doesn’t sound like a stretch. One of my roomates watched the show when I was in Uni, and I couldn’t believe how often she sided with Kate over things. I got suckered into watching the odd episode, and couldn’t BELIEVE the way Jon was being treated, and how the kids were being treated.
      The woman is a control freak. She controls every single thing around her, including people’s perception of Jon. He got cheated with this whole situation. The man deserves at least 50/50 custody.

    • yuck says:

      I think you’re spot on. I also think that Jon is well aware he is unlikely to get full custody. His objective is very likely to get a guardian ad litem appointed for his kids, so that there is a “disinterested” third party who has the ability to call Kate out when she’s doing something damaging to her kids (as in, last week’s degrading public “debut” for her twins). He obviously doesn’t have that sort of power in this situation.

      • Tulip Garden says:

        Interesting. Thanks for this. Love the guardian ad litem idea. Let Kate (and Jon) argue with that person and see how far it gets them!

    • togsos says:

      I cannot reconcile the phrase ‘loving dad’ with this person. I will admit to have never seen their show so all I can comment from is what I see on blogs etc. But seriously how is it millions of parents worldwide sue for custody of their children without doing a magazine interview first. He is a famewhorish as Kate, he just doesn’t have any product to sell, as he doesn’t have the kids, other than than the badmouthing of his childrens mother. He needs to stop talking to magazines and just get on with business of being a parent!

      • Anastasia says:

        Well, if you haven’t seen the show, you’re right–you have no idea. She was absolutely horrific to him. Not a single moment of affection or warmth from her to him. She routinely humiliated him on national TV and seemed to take pleasure in it. I remember watching just horrified, thinking if this is how she’ll treat him while being filmed, just imagine what she’s like behind closed doors.

        Just go on YouTube and watch some clips. Get an eyeful and and earful of how she treated everyone she came in contact with.

        She was cold , unloving, and often cruel to the kids, and he was warm and loving to them. That’s the basis of my judgment call–hundreds of hours of video.

  12. Carolyn says:

    In 5-10 years we will watch interviews with the children from these awful reality shows with them discussing the impact their parents’ activities had on their lives, the issues they may have from it. And specifics as to how much things were staged.

    Looking at Honey Booboo, Dance Moms kids, Kartrashians, Octomum kids & Gosselin kids.

    • Tammy says:

      At least Honey Boo Boo’s parents love her. I can’t say the same about Kate with her kids.

      • Carolyn says:

        yes (agree)…I put Alana in this group from the perspective of the pressure of the pageant circuit and that from the network for the whole family to be thrust into the limelight. as opposed to PMK, Abby Lee & the Gosselins’ desperation to try & stay relevant at any cost.

  13. Assistant Rachel says:

    Run kids! Run Luke the wind, away from BOTH of your parents!

  14. Samtha says:

    If he really cared about his kids, he’d just file for custody rather than broadcasting it to the world. I wonder how much he got paid for talking to In Touch.

    He’s just as bad as Kate is.

    • MollyB says:

      Yep. He loves to talk a good game but we’ll see if he follows through. He reminds me of so many dads from the old neighborhood. The kind who will tell anyone who will listen about how much he loves his kids, lives for his kids, blah blah blah but oh yeah, haven’t seen them in two years because “their mom’s a bitch” or whatever.

    • Lucinda says:

      It’s not always that straightforward. My mom was a nightmare but the one time my dad fought for custody, it made things worse, not better for a multitude of reasons beyond his control. He had his issues and wasn’t always the greatest, but he tried. We have no idea what is going on behind the scenes but it really feels like Kate has all the power here.

  15. Greata says:

    Dude needs a paycheck. This is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

  16. Lila says:

    Oh please. He gave himself an out in the interview- he can’t file until he gets the money together. I bet that takes, oh about 9 years. And until he gets that money together, he can say whatever he wants about all the agreements that are being violated and how victimized he and the kids are while he’s too broke to fight back and since their custodial agreement isn’t actually looked at since he’s telling tabloids not the court, no one can prove him wrong.

    Why no mention of the twins? I can’t with this guy. Kate may be awful but she’s the one raising those kids. From all appearances and statements, she is the primary custodial parent, Jon said that she handled their schooling, she provides for them- and Jon is bawling to the tabloids about how Kate is exploiting their children. Both sides have talked about a nanny. Those kids’ best chance would be if Kate got a job where she traveled a lot and the nanny raised the kids. Jon can go masturbate on camera again to get his D-list paycheck from another reality show and leave them to it.

    • bluhare says:

      Why no mention of the twins? They said they don’t see their dad, and at 13 I expect they have some say in where they live. Would you want to try to force two 13 year olds to come live with you?

  17. eliza says:

    I know eveeeeery one hates Kate and feels sorry for this douche bag but not me. I do not like Kate BUT I would rather her have those kids than the dbag who blew all his money on Ed Hardy and Affliction t-shirts, lived the high life for a hot second in Trump Tower, running up huge bar and food tabs at fancy NY establishments acting like he was some hot celebrity. Just because he is waiting tables doesn’t mean he’s a humble,nice man. He is just as bad or worse than his ex. Only thing different he was smart enough to stay out of sight for a while and play the pity card.

    • Tammy says:

      He is not just as bad or worse than Kate. Did you even watch one episode of their reality show?

      • eliza says:

        I have my opinion. You have yours. I do not have to justify my opinion because you do not agree with it. Not trying to be rude.

    • Anastasia says:

      So she’s verifiably abusive to the kids and to him (did you ever watch the show?), but he’s worse because of some SHIRTS he wore six years ago?

      That’s….crazy. You must know that.

      • Lila says:

        She’s verifiably abusive? Since when? Because the courts apparently didn’t think so. I did watch most of their show. She’s a bitch but I never saw anything indicating that those kids would be in danger living with her, physical or otherwise. What was clearly abuse to you was lousy parenting to me.

        I don’t doubt that those kids have a drama filled household. Watching the twins with their mother in the two interviews recently, I also don’t believe that the kids are all beaten down little robots. They have opinions, they talk back, they help with their younger siblings. Considering how many times they have been to court, if Jon was so obviously a better parent I think he would have those kids more. If there was evidence of abuse, physical or emotional, he could take custody and Kate could pay child support. Yet the court apparently gave her primary custody. There are eight of those kids, all old enough to talk. If things were that bad with Kate and they were begging to live with Jon, he would have enough to get at least increased visitation and an investigation rather than just telling his stories to the tabloids. He hasn’t and if the other reports are true, hasn’t even seen the twins in nine months (which I believe because he apparently didn’t know about their big trip). He isn’t fighting for his right to see the kids either. Father of the year there.

      • Anastasia says:

        This is to Lila. You only had to watch the show to see how verbally and emotionally abusive she was to the kids and to Jon. More examples than I can list, but one I’ll never forget was putting one of the little boys on the ceramic tile floor in the laundry room, in the dark, with a bucket while he was throwing up. That way he wouldn’t mess up his bed. When Jon came home and discovered this, he was incredibly angry, as any loving parent would be. The child was crying, feverish, nauseated, and was placed on a cold hard floor in the laundry room with a bucket JUST so he wouldn’t mess up anything.

        And then there’s the wooden spoon she carried everywhere. She called it “the spanker.” There’s the photos of her whomping on one of the little girls for blowing a whistle OUTSIDE. AND then of course, there are her own words: the words in her journal. She kept it electronically, threw the hard drive out, and it was recovered then published by a local author. Her own words were CHILLING. She admitted to throwing the kids in their cribs by their HAIR and not even caring. That’s just one example.

        Seriously, the more you look into this woman, the scarier it gets. She’s a horrible human being.

      • eliza says:

        No need to be insulting to me or aggressive because I do not share your opinion. This is a blog for all opinions not just ones that jive with yours. As I explained I do not have to justify an opinion on someone to anyone here. It is how I see things and not through you eyes. Sorry it angers you.

    • Erinn says:

      Sorry. I don’t count wearing Ed Hardy, and blowing too much money when he finally has a bit of freedom as something comparable to child abuse, animal abuse, and really, spousal abuse.

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      • eliza says:

        Again, it is my opinion. I am respectful of those opinions different from mine. You don’t have to agree with mine.

      • PoliteTeaSipper says:

        This exactly. The guy makes a mistake and they’re all ready to crucify him, but give Kate a pass on all her abuse (which you can see on their show!) under the sniveling excuse “that’s my opinion and I’m sorry if that angers you.” Makes me sick when people give a pass on child abuse.

    • sapphoandgrits says:

      I 100% agree with you, and this latest round of famwhoring just solidifies that opinion for me. I’ve never understood the pass so many folks on here give Jon. He doesn’t even pay child support, and now he’s publicly saying he doesn’t even want custody of the twins. wth

      I am far, far from a Kate fan.

      • bluhare says:

        If he gets custody of the sextuplets, do you think he should receive child support from Kate? If not, why?

      • Lady D says:

        50% custody should include 50% child support. When him and Kate broke up, he completely turned his back on those children. It became all about Jon until he realized the money was running out.
        For the record, I too think Kate is a first-class bitch.

      • eliza says:

        Hahaha. You are the only one. Better duck and take cover.

      • Anastasia says:

        How do you know he doesn’t pay child support? Where are you getting that from?

      • jwoolman says:

        Jon has paid plenty in child support- much of his share of the tv money was set aside for the purpose and given to Kate. He pays all expenses for the kids when they are with him. Kate won’t allow them to take anything with them, so Jon has separate sets of clothing, toys, bikes etc. for all of them. It’s been speculated that the twins are being bribed by Kate in various ways to reduce time with their dad, and one aspect might be the “mom buys us designer clothes” thing. Big expenses are actually covered by the money the kids already earned (tuition, Kate’s house expenses etc). But Jon has joint custody, the idea that he isn’t supporting the kids as much as Kate just doesn’t make sense. Jon has worked regular jobs for several years. He hasn’t been running away from his kids, but he has been dealing with a very strange situation. I never heard of kids being kept out of phone contact with their father when staying with their mother in any other case. But Kate does that.

    • Dawn says:

      Oh my god…did you ever watch this show? Just because Kate is a woman doesn’t automatically make her the better parent and in this case it simply is a false statement. When they were together Jon did most of the child care giving and when Jon wasn’t there Kate had what she called helpers from their church and she basically sat on her ass and drank coffee. It was always this or do that or you did that wrong or didn’t move fast enough and who can ever forget the coupon episode. I get so tired of people acting like this was all Jon’s fault and Kate is just a perfect parent and human being…wrong! And who can forget the time she left I think it was Joel of Collin lying on cement floor with a bucket for hours because she didn’t want to deal with a sick kid or the mess and waited for Jon to get home. If you had to contend with some like Kate as your partner I will bet you too would be a mess.

      • eliza says:

        Good Lord. Some of you need to CHILL. I never said she was wonderful, did I? I stated an opinion. It isn’t that serious. Not going to sit here and debate over my opinion differing from yours. This is truly silly. Read what I wrote again. They both are awful people.

        Enjoy your day.

      • Lauraq says:

        Eliza, you are indeed free to have an opinion, but you must realize that unless you are prepared to defend it logically no one is obligated to accept it. Not all opinions are created equal…that’s one of the first things they teach you in college.

  18. Scarlettmoon says:

    Okay, so yeah, Kate is a real piece of OCD work….wouldn’t want that for a mother, no way no how! But at the age of 13, the twins are definitely old enough to make the decision whether they want to see Jon or not. My biological father signed paperwork giving up his parental rights to me when I was 6, and even though we do have contact and somewhat of a relationship, I still suffer with a few abandonment issues at 45. Kate is obviously, still the better parent out of these two and even with all her nuttiness, I sure wouldn’t want to deal with raising 8 kids. At this point I think Jon is using the media to keep himself relevant and honestly just to make Kate’s life a little more miserable. Those two were never going to make it as a couple and probably never should have been together at all. Jon’s a creep and needs to slink away back to the woods.

    • Erinn says:

      They’re completely old enough to decide, but think about who they’re living with. Do you think she’s ever encouraged her kids to have a relationship with their dad? Do you think she made sure not to bad mouth him in front of the kids? I’m sorry, but when you’re living with someone who has always badmouthed your other parent, eventually you’re going to assume it’s true and adopt the same kind of attitude. As I’ve said, Jon’s no saint, but he loved those kids.

      I don’t think she’s a better parent. She’s better at controlling them. She’s better at manipulating the kids, and the public into thinking she’s got it all under control, but she also uses fear and anger as the major tool to achieve this. I don’t doubt for a moment that she constantly bad mouthed Jon; she had no problem ridiculing him on their show in front of the cameras. Imagine what this woman does and says behind closed doors.

      I think the only way he thinks he can get through is to use the media. It gets more attention. Hell, she’s admitted herself in her diary that got leaked that she uses objects to hit her children. Nobody wants to raise 8 kids alone, but she INSISTED on having more kids, knowing that it was likely that she would have multiples again.

  19. FingerBinger says:

    I thought Jon was broke. How can he afford a lawyer to sue her for custody?

    • Anastasia says:

      Well, he did say he needs to get the money together, but there are attorneys who work pro bono, which means their fees are waived in certain circumstances.

      But I agree with someone above who said he is trying for a guardian ad litem, which will be a neutral third party to step on and call Kate on the carpet every time she violates their court orders, including not giving him rights of first refusal, not contacting him before taking them out of state, etc. She has repeatedly flaunted that agreement and thumbed her nose at it. She’s gotten away with it, and thinks she can continue to get away with it. I think he’s finally trying to make sure that it stops, for the sake of the kids. She’s a classic parental alienator, trying to drive a wedge into the relationship they have with their dad.

      The woman isn’t always automatically the wronged party always in the right. In this case, the actions and evidence of both tip the scales in Jon’s favor a bit.

  20. Eva says:

    Kate reminds me a bit of the ‘tiger mom’. I can’t remember the exact book title but it was a best seller and very controversial. The described patenting style very similar to Kate’s and that driven, ocd, mean spirited style is popular in some cultures. In my opinion it’s not ideal, but way better than John. No perfect choice for custodial parent, just the lessor of two evils.

    • Erinn says:

      Ah. So hitting your kids with spoons and abusing their dog, and constantly ripping on their father is the lesser of two evils. Good to know.

    • LovesGossip says:

      Did “Tiger Mom” also advocate putting her CHILDREN to work so she didn’t have to? (like lazy arse Kate)

  21. Immy says:

    I really feel so bad for those children, especially the twins. Hearing that their dad wants custody of the younger six and not them is like a slap in the face. especially if he has not seen them in six months.
    I remember the Pre-Jon and Kate plus eight. It was a special. The younger six were still babies in cribs, Kate looked like an ordinary mom, and the show focused on how she used organization to keep everything running smoothly.

    It’s really sad now to see both parents, especially Jon spewing hatred at each other, when they should be working together to raise their 8 kids, which is a huge responsibility.

    I think the worse decision they made was moving from their normal house in the suburbs in to the huge home in the country. With eight kids to care for it wasn’t the best use of their funds, not to mention the huge amount it must now cost to maintain, insure and pay taxes on. My grandparents had 6 kids, as many families often did have a large number of children, and never needed a mansion to house them. I think a lot of Kate still being in the limelight is her continuing to try to earn money to keep up that lifestyle.

    I remember Kate saying at the time that the house would belong to the kids…really? Because when they turn 18 and head off for college and start careers, they aren’t going to all move back and live together, and I don’t think Kate would take kindly to leaving it either.

    I get that their are hurt feeling on both sides. Kate got into the fame, into the money, she changed, and the stress of parenting 8 kids meant she wasn’t the best partner to Jon. Jon wasn’t exactly parent of the year either, running around with young women (ala the Ed hardy t-shirt phase) around the world, when the focus should have been creating a stable future for himself and his kids, and grow up.

    But now, so many years later, you would think that they could put their differences aside, and it’s so sad that they haven’t for the children’s sake.

    I think the kids will turn out OK though. I don’t think we are going to be hearing about them being addicted to drugs, or so forth. They aren’t the first kids with warring divorced parents, and few kids have the perfect childhood. It’s sad that it is being played out in the media, but with the kids largely out of the spotlight themselves I think they will get through it.

    • Lady D says:

      My dream is the kids prove that house was bought with their money, and sell the place out from under Kate.

      • prayforthewild says:

        I actually knew a person who did this. Found out an inheritance, that was left to them at about age 6, was used to buy their abusive mom’s house. They sued some 20 years later and won. The mom was truly abusive, as in should have, would have, gone to prison abusive.

  22. Alana says:

    The harpy or the sloth…hmmm.

    • Tara says:

      That about sums it up. And they’re both famewhores… who happen to have competing brands. My guess is Jon plans his custody battle meme to be part of his couples therapy gig.

  23. Meggin says:

    I really think these kids would be better off with their dad.. Kate is so fame hungry and uses her kids to try to be more famous. It’s disgusting. But it’s kind of awful to only fight for custody of some of your children. This is why you don’t have a zillion kids!!

    • Lady D says:

      Like Kelsey Grammar in his divorce from Camille. He only wanted his son. What an ignorant thing to say.

    • Jayna says:

      They would be no better of with that loser. Neither one is better. At least she isn’t bringing in and out of their lives different men like he has women.

    • Maureen says:

      The thing that makes me really angry about Kate’s IVF is that, first of all, she had only been married for 2 years when she did it the first time. By her own admission she had no proof of actual fertility problems — she just did the IVF because she wasn’t getting pregnant as fast as she wanted to. She was also very young, just in her mid-late 20’s. She had time to wait and see if she could indeed get pregnant naturally. Then she did the next round because she claimed she wanted a big family. I can’t understand why Kate ever wanted so many children when she is obviously a miserable person inside. Maybe she thought kids would change her.

  24. anne_000 says:

    It’s the younger six that’s been telling him that they’re scared of Kate, not the older two, apparently. Even Kate basically said that the twins are Mommy-girls & spend their nights talking to Kate in her bedroom. Also, as the other posters have said, the age of 13 year old may be old enough for a judge to consider the twin’s preference on which parent to stay with.

  25. Jayna says:

    What he’s doing is making money selling a story and that’s the angle he’s using, going for custody. Plus he’s mad at Kate for outing him, that as much as he carries on about his kids being on TV he traded having a say about that so he didn’t have to pay any child support years ago. So he got caught in his blustering about the kids on TV and stopping it when he sold that right long ago. So he’s getting back at her.

    They are both pieces of work. Selling stories to make money right and left and appearing on that dumb therapy show.

  26. BeckyR says:

    While neither would get an award for parent of the year, Kate comes across as a bitch, and the children look unhappy. I hope he wins custody.

  27. Maureen says:

    I’m just wondering how Kate can afford braces for her twins when she’s supposedly so desperately broke. Braces are damn expensive! Plus all the upkeep and things you have to buy like bands and retainers and what-not. I mean, there are tons of kids across America who are truly poor and could only dream of having braces.

    • gail says:

      Maureen, that’s the kind of question I would ask too- you must be a mom. Maybe they are still getting income from their show (residuals?). That would explain how Kate can afford her high maintenance appearance – i.e. plastic surgery, botox, veneers, hair weaves, etc.

    • jwoolman says:

      Maureen- Jon’s father was a dentist and made provisions with colleagues for free or low cost dental care for Jon’s kids after he died. Doubt that Kate is paying anything for it.

  28. JessSaysNo says:

    Do you guys realize that he will NOT file for custody? He is using this opportunity for a paid interview in In Touch. He doesn’t want custody, he doesn’t want to have to pay for them in any way. Kate is a miserable fame-whore freak. Jon is a lazy dead-beat dad. He supposedly worked in IT for years before they were famous. He could get a job within the IT field and make a decent wage $60,000-ish and easily pay for basic lawyer fees if he wanted to (seeing as he has no child support to pay and no children living with him). He doesn’t do this because he wants to appear on ‘Couples Therapy’ and be a general lazy bastard.

    • anne_000 says:

      How can he get a job in the IT field when he hasn’t been in it & hasn’t kept up on all the new developments all this time? There’s plenty of younger, more up-to-date, just-out-of-college techies out there that are better competition for whatever jobs there still might exist in this field. Also, he’s already working as a waiter. He said he likes being a waiter better than when he was working in a cubicle. Being a waiter isn’t the same as being a lazy bastard.

      It’s Kate who’s refusing to work a regular job. What’s Kate doing to earn some money (that doesn’t involve her kids working for her sake?) Kate used to be a nurse. It’ll be easier for a nurse to return to the workforce than somebody in the IT field who hasn’t been in it for years.

      She also has staff looking after her kids. She can go back to work while the staff continue being the children’s caretaker. The kids would probably be better off if Kate left the house & them 8-10 hrs a day. She can expend her bitter anger issues out on some sick patients instead of her kids.

    • Anastasia says:

      Why doesn’t Kate go to work as a nurse? Her license is up to date and everything! She could work while the kids are at school and make plenty. She’d rather sit on her butt and try to beg for a TV show.

  29. lanette says:

    this man could not take care of a hamster …he needs to have a few seats

  30. RobN says:

    He’s always getting ready to file for custody, but he never actually does. This is at least the third time that I can think of. He’s a talker, full of empty promises.

    I have no regard for her at all, but she’s the only actual parent. He’s the fun uncle who lets you eat cereal for dinner and watch movies past your bedroom.

  31. jwoolman says:

    Jon is using his new tv money on a five bedroom house just four miles away from Kate, which will make flexible custody/visitation arrangements much easier. He does see the twins but not as much as he would like, being closer will allow them to visit while still living with Kate. He has said before that some of the kids want to live with him, others with Kate. The split is probably twins vs tups. When he said before that he was worried about the poor socialization of his kids, I think he was talking about the tips not his older girls. They are very isolated- Kate doesn’t allow phone contact with dad on her time (I think she doesn’t have a landline so she can enforce it). Jon may be hoping to send a message to his kids this way, especially the twins and Colin, who apparently has had only limited contact with his dad since last August. Theories are mixed about why- Colin might want to stay to take care of the animals, or stay near his sister Cara, or be trying to make mom happy (he’s the one especially wanting to please her since he was little, and was one of the two expelled from kindergarten and showing many other signs of stress over the years). Jon’s respecting the twins’ decisions about where to live, but the younger ones really need a safe haven. Kate doesn’t see them as profitable anymore. They really do act afraid of her in pictures. She has a habit of physically punishing them fir minor infractions in front of all the rest, which is a habit reported by adult children of abusive parents. Anyway, Jon is right to be worried about them and is obviously taking steps to take it to court. Even if he doesn’t get full custody, he likely will be able to moderate her behavior a little and get better conditions than current custody arrangements.

  32. K says:

    Any parent who publicly slates the other parent in the media is a shitty one, IMO. No kid wants to or benefits from being exposed to that. It’s completely selfish and totally wrong. You chose to have a baby with someone – you deal with the fallout. Don’t saddle the kids with that shit. He’s not doing any better than Halle Berry or Charlie Sheen with that particular aspect, really. Horrible for the children.