Prince William’s latest scheme to avoid royal work: becoming a commercial pilot?


I think the New Zealand leg of Duchess Kate and Prince William’s grueling royal tour is done, and they’re arriving in Australia today (or have they already arrived?). So, I’m playing catch-up. I’m trying to use some of the NZ photos I haven’t used before. It’s sort of exciting that we’ve got another few weeks of royal photos to come as well – I suspect that Will and Kate will be doing even more in Australia, mostly because the Aussies still make noise about becoming a republic. I wonder how William feels about that? There’s a theory going around that William might be a closet republican and he’s trying to take down the monarchy from the inside. It’s an interesting theory.

Anyway, this story popped up and I just though “of course.” William is rather famously in the midst of his second “gap year” of rediscovery. He’s no longer with the RAF, he recently completed (“completed”) a “bespoke” program in agriculture at Cambridge, although I don’t understand how he completed the program when he was on vacation, but still. Anything to avoid his royal duties. And now he’s got another excuse to avoid full-time royal work: he’s going to get a commercial pilot’s license.

The second in line to the throne has admitted he is missing flying for a living after quitting his role as an RAF search and rescue force helicopter pilot in September following seven and a half years in the military. William, 31, has already obtained his private pilot’s licence and is now going for the next stage up, a licence that would allow him to fly civilian planes for money.

He talked about his plans to Peter Townsend, chief executive of Canterbury Employers’ Chamber of Commerce, during a visit to the Air Force Museum of New Zealand today, where he and Kate attended a lunch to discuss a blueprint to rebuild Christchurch.

“He told me that being in a hall full of aircraft made him long to be flying again,” Mr Townsend said. “He’s got his private licence and he’s hoping for his commercial one.”

William has hinted that in the future he would like to find a way of combining undertaking official royal duties with performing some sort of public service role that would allow him to indulge his passion for flying.

He is currently on what Kensington Palace has called a ‘transitional year’, learning more about royal duties, charity work, and the Duchy of Cornwall landed hereditary estate that he will inherit when his father becomes King. In September he intends to embark on a new role performing public service but has not decided whether that will be by undertaking full-time royal duties or by working for a Government department, a charity, or some other venture.

A senior royal source said yesterday there were several options on the table but he insisted none of them involved William flying for a living.

A commercial pilot licence, which typically costs £6,000 to £8,000 in lessons, enables the holder to fly single pilot planes for money or act as co-pilot of some multi-crew aircraft. But there is a higher qualification, an airline transport pilot license, which allows the holder to be in command of a multi-crew aircraft such as scheduled air carriers.

[From The Express]

It bothers me that William is 31 years old and he’s still trying invent schemes to avoid royal work. I believe that we often wrongly slam Duchess Kate for her lack of work, and while she is an adult and that’s on her, I think she follows William’s lead and, as we’ve seen time and again, she’s terrified of overshadowing him in any way. When she does do these kinds of royal tours and appearances, she’s decent-to-good and getting better every year. If William would only make up his mind to actually engage in royal work full-time, Kate would follow suit. Anyway, William as a commercial pilot? Yeah. That’s not going to happen. It’s just another scheme/excuse to avoid his duties.





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  1. QQ says:

    I really didnt read the article I just busted out laughing like a lunatic at the title! they are Exquisite at being Lazy without appearing so gauche LOL *goes back to really read*

    • T.C. says:

      LOL. I read the full article QQ, Kaiser’s headline summary is all you need. I agree with her that Wills will continue to find schemes to avoid royal work and Kate is probably just following his lead so not to overshadow him. I give Kate hell all the time for her years and years of laziness but that woman seems to have been playing it smart. Do little and lazy Wills won’t be afraid that your work ethic will shine a light on his laziness. You will get your ring and ta da, it happened. Or maybe they truly are both lazy with Wills finding his perfect match.

      Watch your back Harry. Lazy Wills enablers will soon start getting mad at all the royal work you do. Start leaking negative news about you.

      • Liberty says:

        Amazing isn’t it that Harry just dove right in and does work, while work-shy Baldtop swings from scheme to scheme. But, a closet republican? I doubt it. Because he shows no sign of a civilian citizen’s necessary work ethic. Unless he plans to fly his swanky friends around via Lear jet as his new job.

        I must admit I am laughing at the idea that a secretly work-hungry Kate is sadly out there shopping five times a week, getting her hair done three times a week, and spinning her sausage curls in terrified tears the rest of the time just because she has no choice. I think like her husband, she just likes the “fun parts” of life.

      • Emily C. says:

        Civilian citizens who are born into immense wealth don’t need a work ethic. If the monarchy were abolished, Will could just jet from vacation to vacation and not have anyone telling him he should be doing anything. His family owns a lot of property in their own name. Paying his own bills might be a wake-up call; but nah, he’d hire someone to take care of that.

      • bluhare says:

        I totally agree, Liberty. Kate enjoyed the perks of being William’s girlfriend, IMO, as did her family, and they all still do.

    • GoNatural says:

      Can’t believe anyone still pays attention to them (I bet they can’t believe it either!).

      It’s part of the showmanship of Australian federal politics. Great distraction from the corruption of our politicians…!

  2. Tatjana says:

    Oh, for the love of God.
    Kate’s bitchface in the second picture is EPIC.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Right? I’m speechless.

      • Lemonsorbet says:

        It ages her. Quite badly.

      • Ag says:

        that’s what i wanted to say – both of them look quite older than they are.

        and, if he wants to avoid royal duties so bad, why doesn’t he “quit” being a royal, get a job, etc.? but then he’d actually have to work…

      • wolfpup says:

        It reminds me of the photo she had transformed into art. I think I remember reading her decision for this was based upon the wish of seeing who she was before her entrance into the BRF. What she didn’t realize, was that she only had getting older to look forward to! She does look, however, much richer. It will be interesting if character becomes etched upon her face.

      • bluhare says:

        I hope not as I see tinges of dissatisfaction.

    • Lorelei says:

      Ok, what if he really doesn’t want to be a royal, as in do “royal” work? What is wrong with him getting a pilot job? I mean I know he’s the heir and all that, but honestly, it wasn’t by choice and if flying is what he really wants to do then fine by me. Let him worry about royal duty when he actually becomes king, which I don’t think is gonna happen any time soon.

      • Sarah says:

        I kind of agree – why does everyone else in the world get to pick what they want to do, but he had his career chosen for him at birth? It must suck in some ways.

      • Mich says:

        If he doesn’t want it, he can officially step aside. What he can’t do is have his cake and eat it too.

        And are you seriously feeling sorry for someone born with the whole silver cutlery set in his mouth?

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        What’s wrong with him not doing “royal” work is that he is wildly, madly, generously, copiously compensated for doing “royal” work. As Mich says, if he doesn’t want to, he can step aside and stop taking the money. Very little is asked of him. Do you honestly think he wants to trade places with a commercial airline pilot?

        I wouldn’t have this reaction at all if he was pulling his weight with charity work or humanitarian causes. I have a problem with a grown man taking a bloody gap year, now stretching it by taking up a new hobby, while his pay stays the same and while he’s contributing so very little. How many of us would give our right arm for an ounce of his influence towards good causes, never mind the money? That’s what I object to. He could do SO much, with very little effort, and he chooses to find a new toy to play with.

      • Suze says:

        Because he doesn’t get to opt out of royal work until he becomes king. There are a lot of royal duties to be done, and someone has to do them. The queen is slowing down, as is the DoE. Charles is edging out the ancillary royals, like Bea and Eugenie, and he, Camilla and Harry can’t do everything.

        You can’t have the heir disappear for years and then pop back up on the scene after dad dies. (All while living in state subsidized housing, and being guarded on the state dime.)

        That said, he could probably fly a little, but I think the fear is that he will disappear into commercial flying and not be available to open shopping centers, make tour appearances, etc.

      • LadySlippers says:

        In order for anyone in the BRF to ‘step aside’ a law needs to be created (personally I think they should have combined that with the gender law). So it’s not as easy as many think.

        He is getting funds from numerous places that are tax payer sourced because he is a senior Royal. If he doesn’t want to work he needs to decline or reimburse all the funds that are directly tied to the tax payer.

        If he did that, and starts living off his family’s private funding, then by all means, he (and others) can do as they please.

      • T.C. says:

        He is already a Prince so his royal obligations began when he reached adulthood not when he is King. He won’t be King until he is his father’s age. Every other royal in his family who is over 18 does royal work. Wills is getting tax payer funds to support his lifestyle so he is obligated to give back. Otherwise, take yourself out of the line of succession, give back taxpayer funds and live on your own income + inheritance without anymore press coverage, people bowing at your feet or being a celebrity.

        Royal work is pretty cush.,It doesn’t even have to be hard work, just help out charities by showing up for an hour to smile and make small talk. Charities, good works. Things us regular folks do for free all the time even with 40-50 hr work weeks with families to take care if. It’s really amazing how much enabling Wills and Kate get to not work from the public.

      • Jo says:

        @Lorelei Thank you!!!

      • Liberty says:

        I agree with Mich.

      • FLORC says:

        When it is asked why william gets so much dislike drawn up about wh he doesn’t work more as a royal I feel like they’ve formed an opinion on 1% of the available information.
        Not really shading anyone, but i’m not sure how else to phrase it.

        While I agree with the above commentors.. It’s like William s the boss’s son. His family own the company. And all employees must cut out a percentage of their take home pay to go straight to their son. The bosses son acts with full entitlement and could very well bring down the company once his family passes.

      • Emily C. says:

        Most people have very little choice in their lives. There are millions of people trying to get crappy jobs and failing. There are billions of people without health care. There are people driven to crime and prostitution just to put food on the table for their children. There are people who don’t even have a table, ffs.

        So oh, poor guy, born into as much wealth and privilege as possible, he doesn’t get to do absolutely anything he wants with his life whenever he wants, how very sad. Right. He could give up the crown and divest himself of his wealth if he wanted a “normal” life, and he’d still be way more privileged and have way more choice than the vast majority of people on this earth.

        I feel bad for the little girl who was shot by the Taliban for advocating for education for girls. I don’t feel bad for this loser.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I’m having a big laugh at this! He is either deluded or just plain stupid. He can’t work commercially as a royal.

        I only know of one royal who gave up his royal status in order to work as a commercial designer and that is the Swedish prince Sigvard Bernadotte, son of King Gustaf IV Adolf of Sweden and brother of Queen Ingrid of Denmark. He ‘lost’ his royal title when he married a commoner, but he had a real passion and talent for design. He designed the Margrethe Bowl, named after his niece (now Queen of Denmark) – a brilliant and utilarian design that is still incredibly successful after 60 years – I have a set gracing my kitchen shelf (they can be found in a variety of colours, but the teal version is my favorite). His silverware designs for Georg Jensen is just exquisite! He designed timeless classics! The world has definitely been better served with him not remaining royal.

        Images of his designs:

      • Sixer says:

        There’s Viscount Linley, who has a furniture business? Although he was never really a main working royal.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I might add that Sigvard Bernadotte campaigned for years to have his princely title restored – though not his place in the line of succession. In 1951 he was created Count Bernadotte of Wisborg.

        Princess Märtha-Louise, daughter of the Norwegian king Harald, is another royal who officially has lef the NRF and declined her apanage and tax-exemption to be an independant businesswoman. I not quite sure if she’s still in the line of succession.

    • paola says:

      She’s is almost unrecognisable when she’s not smiling! Holy resting bitch face! Smile Kate! You’re so cute when you smile!

      • Suze says:

        Very few people have lovely resting faces, but you can train yourself to look less annoyed when your face is in repose. I had to do it. Everyone kept asking me what was the matter all the time.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Suze, me, too. When I was young, people on the street would say “smile!” Or “it’s not that bad” when I was just minding my own business because my resting face was apparently sad or mad looking, so I tried to change it.

      • bluhare says:

        Me three you guys. I got so sick of “smile!”.

      • Suze says:

        Heh – I think it’s common.

        One of the remarkable things about Diana was that she had a very photogenic resting, non-smiling face. It went a long way to making her the darling of the press for a long long time. No matter how sad, angry or preoccupied she was, she looked rather composed and attractive in photos.

        Of course when she turned on the charm and flashed her smile, her charisma level amped up into the megawatts.

      • Liberty says:

        I have resting bitchface too when I am tired. I also get the “smile, honey, a girl like you should be smiling!” crapfest constantly if I just walk down the street minding my own business. SMILE! SMILE!!

        I was waiting for my delayed flight out of LaGuardia a couple of weeks ago and having a coffee and this guy says to another female business traveler near me, “Smile, honey, it’s not that bad!” Without missing a beat and barely looking up from her laptop she said, “It will be when your nuts are in that trash bin.” He left.

      • FLORC says:

        Liberty you share my pain. Random strangers asking why you’re so sad or upset when you’re tired or zoned out.
        I feel for those like me.
        Although, When i’ve needed to turn it on i’m hyper aware to keep smiling. If I got to wear amazing jewels and fancy gowns I would be beaming up a storm.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Oh, Liberty, that is priceless! Once, just once in my life I wish I had the guts to say something like that! Lol

      • Liberty says:

        FLORC, I know, right – when I am tired or getting a headache and minding my own business, yah let me skip the smile though like you, sure, I will carry on smiling if needed. And I agree, toss me jewels and gowns and I would be giggling inappropriately. HEY lookatthiswillya!

        GoodNamesAllTaken, I know, the guts! And honestly she was so calm, or seemed to be, it was like she’d been through it before. And had gone past needing guts, to needing to say it.

    • FLORC says:

      I really must say that’s not Kate’s b-tch face. That face is best displayed with Pippa at the Wimbledon royals box a few years ago.
      She looks bored and zoned out here.

    • TorontoE says:

      I was struggling to identify who she reminds me of in the second photo….and I think there is a bit of Kate Gosseling (obv much prettier through)…

      • LadySlippers says:


      • FLORC says:

        It’s the jowls. Is the Kate of 8 a smoker too?

      • Lahdidahbaby says:

        I don’t think Kate understands that wearing her hair down in a dark curtain on each side of her face is aging her terribly. Look how much better she looks in the pic above where her hair is up! That’s because an up-do (or at least a pulled-back do) exposes the smoother, younger-looking parts of her face, whereas with the Curtains of Doom covering most of her face, ALL we see is the jowly part.

    • Cersei says:

      My gosh, are those JOWLS or a trick of the lighting in the red suit photo? She’s too young to have that kind of sagging. On topic, yes, PW is lazy. He can’t seem to find his bearings, and I don’t think he really wants to be king.

      • LAK says:

        Unfortunately, she has a drooping face tending to jowls now that she has lost weight. Luckily, she’s always photoshopped meaning not many people will realise it unless a truer picture of her is published as it was last poppy day.

      • Cersei says:

        Lak, I think you’re right about the weight loss being the culprit. She looked so young and healthy when she was pregnant. Unfortunately, if she ever regains the weight, it may not come back in the right places and the sagging could persist.

    • lex says:

      Imagine how bad us normal folk would look with such high def quality cameras taking candid pics of us…. Yikes!
      Give them a break. They normally look lovely.

  3. MonicaQ says:

    Man, I wish I had the luxury of working just because I want to and not because Sallie Mae will flay me and my credit score alive.

    I haven’t had coffee. I’m going to do that now.

  4. raindrop says:

    Something I’m curious about with the Cambridge program is that I believe (I’ve HEARD, please correct me if I’m wrong) that upper-level Cambridge programs tend to consist of a lot of reading and writing that’s largely self-directed and doesn’t require the student’s constant presence on campus. Many American graduate level programs work that way, too; you’re on campus for the seminars and maybe you have an assistantship (which William obviously doesn’t need), but other than that you sort of hole up in your study carrel and read until your retinas bleed. I felt like a cave troll as a grad student.

    What I’m saying is that maybe William did complete his bespoke program. Moreover, since it’s bespoke, who knows how difficult it actually was?

    • LadySlippers says:

      Most American graduate degree programs I’ve looked into aren’t that easy.

      Now, a graduate certificate might be…

      • Lindy says:

        That’s actually exactly how most PhD programs in the humanities work. And it’s the furthest thing from easy. About 2 years of coursework when you do have to be on campus and regularly present, And then a solid year where you prep for candidacy or qualifying exams and in which you could easily go days without talking to another human being because all you do is hole up and read and study. (For me there were also constant intensive language courses–I was pretty solid in three languages when I entered my PhD program but my field demands another 3 or 4, most of which are ancient and/or Semitic and not terribly easy to acquire even if you’re a language person). And then 2-3 years of research and writing to complete the dissertation, which tends to run to about 300 pages. All while teaching or working part time or doing assistantships and living on ramen and beans and rice.

        Doesn’t sound even remotely like what Prince LazyPants was doing. Maybe some kind of fluffy continuing ed program. But I did want to weigh in and confirm what raindrop said–it’s the way it does work, and it ain’t easy. More like sprinting a marathon.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I’m curious: Where did you take your Ph.D. – and what’s it about?

        In my country, a Ph.D. also contains an obligation to teach courses (about 1 year out of the 3 years the program runs).

      • Godwina says:

        Seconding what Lindy said. The PhD program I went through worked my ass off for just under 5 years. The Masters, oddly enough, was even crazier–no time to even shower most days and not even kidding.

    • L says:

      It’s a certificate program, not a graduate program. Every single major university in the world has these kinds of specially tailored programs for high level professionals. It’s a huge money maker for them, and gives a random board member a chance to put ‘harvard’ on their resume. He’s not getting a MA or MS

      Same goes for the prep sessions over the summers. Alot of the UK ones have A levels prep over the summers and they are also huge money makers.

      • FLORC says:

        So, when he signed up for this bespoke program it was to prep him for diving into the Duchy business. Now that he’s done he wants to be a commercial pilot?

        And this bespoke program seems like a walk in the park getting to leave for vacations and not acting like you’re accountable.

        I also felt the burn of the sunlight when I emerged from my masters program.

      • Liberty says:

        I see it now: DUCHY AIRLINES. We’ll treat you like a princess!

      • bluhare says:

        LOL, LIberty!! HAHAHA!

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Liberty, he needs to hire you for the marketing! 🙂

      • wolfpup says:

        He sounds like a little boy playing “i want to be when I grow-up…”

      • Hazel says:

        Here’s a couple-three examples of the kind of course PW took. A friend of mine took a six-week course in European history at Oxford one summer. When I was a grad student at Cambridge, my suite-mate (for lack of a better term–and trust me, my lodgings were not ‘suite’ or ‘sweet’) was a policewoman from Malaysia on a special course for police officers. If I remember correctly, that lasted for one term (eight weeks). She had a devil of a time with her coursework; not only because of the language differences but I don’t think she’d ever written an essay before. She needed a lot of extra tutoring, poor thing. And finally, during the summer, a group of students from Davidson College in the US stayed at my college while they were on some special course–English literature, I think.

    • Sixer says:

      What L said. These things aren’t official academic programs. They’re just a few seminars and there for moneymaking. Oxbridge in particular charges a fortune for them because people want the cachet.

      • Feeshalori says:

        This is what is called in the U.S. continuing education where you don’t need a degree but the time and money to take courses. Many adults take courses that deal with learning foreign languages, cooking, painting, ballroom dancing, or courses that lead to a certificate in accounting, medical billing, American sign language etc.

      • Sixer says:

        Not so much, I think. We call that adult education in the UK. Many state schools and colleges run such courses, often in the evenings. They are heavily subsidised here, costing under £100 for up to a year.

        What William has done is attend a few very expensive seminars and lectures by leading academics. Like um… private TED talks. You can then say you have studied at Oxbridge. It’s cash for cachet more than cash for education.

  5. Deedee says:

    What a great scheme! He could fly them to their vacations in the Maldives! to Spain! to ski resorts in the Alps! to places where they can sunbathe topless! I’m surprised he hasn’t thought of this before.

    • qwerty says:

      lmao. Imagine flying on a commercial plane where William is the pilot – they’d probably put a metal detector up your ass before letting you on board.

      • Deedee says:

        “This is your captain speaking! We’re about to make an unscheduled landing. Nothing to be concerned about. Just popping in at Middleton Manor! “

  6. HappyMom says:

    I agree that they’re not exactly workhorses-and seeing how much the Queen and the Prince Philip do at their advanced ages really put them to shame-but I can’t blame him for trying to figure out something beyond just cutting ribbons and saluting. I think his brother has found a way to do something more “meaningful” and I hope William does too. Quickly. And with vigor. And then Kate can follow suit.

    • LadySlippers says:

      William had that option that Harry did and wasn’t that invested either — William almost lost his wings.

      IMO something is off with William. I do not share everyone’s opinion he is just simply lazy. I think he’s being passive aggressive (assuming he is and it’s not something else) for other reasons.

      • Suze says:

        I don’t think either of them are really lazy, actually. God knows when they are doing something they like (mostly vacationing, lol) they throw a lot of energy at it. So they’re misguided, maybe, and Wills seems a bit resentful.

        I mentioned it below, but I do think that they have hit on a good, even great, working relationship on this tour. We’ll see what happens when they get back.

      • pleaseicu says:

        Maybe he’s having a quarter-life crisis about the reality of his life now that he left the military? Life with wife and kid(s), and royal engagements and duties for the rest of his life.

        Retiring from the military really took away his perma-out for dodging royal duties and a lot of his freedom to live a relatively private, free life (for an heir to the throne that is). He seems to really only enjoy and engage in things when he gets to do what he wants when he wants. I can imagine the prospect of what’s ahead for him, a schedule and duties largely beyond his control, probably freaks him out and has him searching for ways to prolong any bit of freedom and privacy.

        Or, it’s entirely possible, he’s just a spoiled, entitled brat who doesn’t feel like working and resents being a royal but doesn’t want to lose the perks that come with being a royal so he’s searching for ways to avoid having to be a full-time royal but still keep the perks.

      • Suze says:


        I think the quarter life crisis is very possible, but it doesn’t make him particularly sympathetic. You’re right in that when he wants to do something, there is a lot of energy, enthusiasm and even charm.

        So go off in private and have your crisis, Wills.

      • HH says:

        I think that being the heir just isn’t that appealing anymore. For the longest time, the world’s richest and most powerful individuals were Kings, Queens, and their heirs. Then Kings, Queens, heirs, and the aristocracy. Moving forward to now, the richest and most powerful individuals are the wealthy, elite business class who are accountable to no one and have privacy. I don’t think William is as jealous of his brother as he is his group of friends. A group of wealthy individuals that no one truly cares about. Sure their names come up in peerage books, but no one is really paying attention to them. Yet, they get all of the perks as William, if not MORE. As superficial as the following sounds, I genuinely mean it: Unless you’re a female royal member who gets to wear tiaras, jewels, fancy gowns, and sashes, why would you want to be a royal? (Haha!) In the world of today, you could also just be wealthy and influential, but with your freedoms and privacy in tact. This doesn’t really answer your question Lady Slippers, but I just got off to thinking on a tangent.

      • LadySlippers says:


        You’ve touched on something I’ve long said now. I think William would gladly give up his HRH as the cons greatly out weigh the pros. His friends are RICH, totally unaccountable to anyone, and have privacy. They also get perks up with wazoo. What’s not to love?!???

        I think a great many people are dazzled by Royals and royalty, except those that are in it and around it. It’s just not all it’s cracked up to be. But being a billionaire — *that’s* where it’s at.

        *singing songs from The Aristocats*

      • Sixer says:

        I think that’s absolutely right. In terms of his over-privileged set, Willy’s life is circumscribed. It’s just yer average stiff who looks in aghast. But yer average stiff pays his taxes to support this, so he gets to be right.

      • FLORC says:

        LS, HH, and Sixer
        I’m a bit puzzled as to why you all feel this way. William to give up the throne would also be giving up his glowing coverage from the press and they could very quickly seize the chance to lash out at him from years of oppressive behavior.

        He also gets his butt kissed. I don’t think his ego would handle the Bertie David switch well.
        Harry would be the golden child and William would be the screw up. Kate could also take a Wallis-Simpson size blow.

      • AM says:

        Exactly, HH/LS/Sixer. When William or Harry talk about wanting to be “normal”, it’s this. Not actual normal.

      • Sixer says:

        Florc – I mean to say that’s how little idea William has of REAL LIFE as lived by the likes of us. I completely buy that he resents not being rich and unencumbered, like his friends and that it would never occur to be grateful for the privilege.

      • HH says:

        FLORC – I wasn’t speaking in terms of abdication, just highlighting the fact that royalty is actually far more hindering than people think. We’re not talking about the days of yore when Kings and Queens could do whatever, whenever, as long as the country and the monarchy remained in tact. These days, a title just determines how other see you; an instant solidification of your importance. It would be interesting to even assess the perks of a having a title in an existing monarchy vs. being a “pretender to the throne.”

        Also, I don’t think abdication is as viable an option as people believe. Even the public is less invested/tied to the monarchy than previous years, I think they would still be disappointed and perhaps resentful. I don’t want to speak in absolute terms because I’m not British nor have I been to the UK so I can’t truly assess any real sentiment towards this idea. And in terms of today’s media, it would not be like Bertie. William could not just retire to a life of privacy. And Kate!! OMG Kate! Holding on all this time for such status and then BOOM! Ripped away. She would LOSE.HER.MIND. Nevermind the backlash from the monarchy; nevermind “the people.” Carole Middleton is whom William should fear most if he ever has thoughts of abdication.

        **long winded, sorry!**

      • LAK says:

        AM: wishing to be *normal* is William’s thing.

        Harry gave an interview on his return from his 2nd tour of Afghanistan in which he said he recognises that there is no such thing as normal and that *his* normal is different from other people’s normal and he simply had to do the best with his lot and he accepted that.

        In terms of actions speaking louder than words, I think we can believe Harry means what he says.

      • AM says:


        Harry in 2012: “There’s a lot of times that both myself and my brother wish, obviously, that we were just completely normal.”

        But you’re absolutely correct that he’s since said otherwise, and I think it’s clear from his public persona that he’s come to terms with his position. And frankly seems to enjoy his position – Wounded Warriors is a great fit for him, and I even believe that he works hard at his new desk job (hard being a relative term). I think that Harry is engaged with his duty in general, but he’s also managed to find a way to tailor it to his interests and is really shining in his role.

        All of the senior royals have found signature causes – e.g. Charles has a number, Anne has Save the Children, Edward has the DoE Awards, Andrew has grifting, etc. Which is just to say that there’s plenty of example for William and to join the chorus that it would be easy for him to get his act together if he actually cared.

      • FLORC says:

        Not long winded HH.
        And thanks to you all for the clarification.
        The Normal we know and the idea of Normal William has is very different.
        But his idea I’d imagine sounds like would be the same as if I quit work, but still felt entitled to my pay check.

        William needs to commit to something. Early 30’s with a family. The Queen isn’t guaranteed to be around for x amount of days and neither is Charles.
        Harry is more prepared at this point to be King tomorrow.

        And Lol! Carol is to be feared! Of course, if William did abdicate andGeorge was also pulled out of the line… if Kate stayed and the Midds didn’t start leaking damaging info to William through passive aggressive nature I would believe they were together for love.

      • Birdix says:

        is it possible that he’s heard so much about his dad being overshadowed by his mom that he is terrified to overshadow Charles? so sets himself up not to do much?

      • FLORC says:

        If William is using that excuse to avoid working it’s a poor one. Diana took over. She made appointments and meetings to distract her from her home life.

    • LAK says:

      He has been given more time than any other heir to find something meaningful to do with his life. The deadlines have continually been re-set to allow him to explore his latest fancy.

      This is all ennui of someone who has been handed everything, who recognises that perhaps it’s not what he wants, but didn’t bother to explore what he might be interested in when he had the time to do it.

      The solution, as traumatising as it might be to the British system, would be for him to step aside, but he doesn’t have the gumption for that and so he continues to torture himself and us with this tale of woe.

      • LadySlippers says:


        I’d bet William has never seriously thought about what needs to really happen to make him happy. It just seems to always be ‘not that’ to whatever is proposed.

        I think the entire Succession should be re-worked so people that don’t want ‘The Top Spot’ can gracefully exit. No muss, no fuss. He isn’t the first to not want it and won’t be the last. So why force anyone to do it???

      • AM says:

        I wonder if some of this dithering when it comes to patronages is because Charles plans for William to take over the Prince’s Trust. Total speculation and not an excuse for William to be doing ZERO work right now, but I wonder if there’s some avoidance of getting really stuck into something right now because there is a succession plan to take place after the Queen’s passing, which of course is a date they cannot speculate.

      • LAK says:

        AM/LS: I think his handlers are actively engaged in keeping William occupied as part of their job description in the face of no interests on his part. Can you imagine the internal meetings?!

        He is one of very few people in the world who never have to think for themselves and so it doesn’t occur to him to ‘think’ what he might do, and so he accepts what is presented to him and resents it even as he accepts it.

        As for his inheriting The PRince’s trust, i strongly feel that this lies in the aforementioned ‘let’s find William something to do’ file.

        He barely works for his own foundation.

        Charles never had to inherit EIIR’s personal charity WRVS which went on to become an independently run charity which should be the fate of The Prince’s Trust. William has shown no interest in it’s work just as he barely shows any interest in the charity he inherited from Diana, Centrepoint.

      • AM says:

        VERY interesting, LAK. I had never contemplated that fate for Charles’s charity, but that’s a very good suggestion.

      • Liberty says:

        LAK, can you hear me applauding? Wait, I’ll take off my little gloves. Now?

      • Christin says:

        If nothing else, I thought he would take on Diana’s charity. I still remember how petulant he seemed as a kid, and wonder if we’re just now seeing the physically grown up, more veiled version of that.

      • My2Pence says:

        Charles founded the Prince’s Trust (age 28) and continues to be the driving force behind it. He doesn’t “run” it, however, it is run by over 600 employees. There is no reason for William to be sitting around twiddling his thumbs because one day he *might* become the member of the BRF who takes up the banner of The Prince’s Trust.

  7. murphy says:

    Why does he hate it so much? You meet with people to discuss things, get your picture taken, maybe try some tricks of whatever trade you’re “inspecting”, all while people bow and tell you its so nice to see you–what is so offputting about it?

    He should just put us out of our misery and pass the crown to Harry–he would be much better at it.

    • Suze says:

      Well, George comes before Harry now.

      • FLORC says:

        If William abdicated would that remove George from the line?

      • LadySlippers says:


        That IS a great question with no good answers. Both sides have valid arguments.

      • bluhare says:

        I’d say if William finds it so onerous, why would he want it for his son?

      • FLORC says:

        William strikes me as the kinnd of guy who has only cared about himself. If he cared about others he’d be more involved in his charities and the future stability of the monarchy. Also, so his son has a future that he had. Instead it seems like it’s all about William’s immediate wants and desires.

    • LadySlippers says:

      Both William and Harry have stated that William hates it because he’s lost control of his life. Harry talked about it when they both were in Africa.

      • wolfpup says:

        How much control do any of us have, in our need to survive? Why does he think that he is so special that he can avoid that necessity? Or that other people will support (fund) him, because of his specialness?

      • AM says:

        William’s problem is he wishes he had been born the son of the Duke of Westminster instead of the son of the Prince of Wales. I can’t put it any more simply than that.

      • Suze says:

        He’s lucky he wasn’t born the son of that plumber down the street, the one who fell on hard times, Mr. Charles Wales. And he needs to look at it that way.

        Almost every other birth scenario is worse than the one he drew.

    • Joy says:

      I too wonder why it’s so difficult. It’s a lot if smiling and waving and hand shaking. Boo hoo it’s so hard. Said NOBODY WHO EVER HAD A REAL JOB.

      • LadySlippers says:

        This is a very simplistic view though. It’s lots more than just that.

      • FLORC says:

        It is a lot more, but you’re given all the best resources to prepare you for it. All resources aside it can’t make you want what you don’t want.

    • chaine says:

      It is VERY VERY VERY hard to do a job that requires standing on two feet and holding a wine glass, while simultaneously savoring the taste of the wine and maintaining a facial expression that is both regal and thoughtful.

      • Curious Cole says:

        So hard a job Kate nearly fell over trying to master it! (Although that can possibly be put down to idiotic heel height on uneven ground)

        Thanks for the chuckle Chaine 🙂

    • Mel says:

      “If William abdicated would that remove George from the line? ”

      No. That’s not for him to decide; he can only decide for himself.
      Like the monarch herself/himself, the succession line is appointed by birth right and “divine grace” (which is also why it is such a big deal to renounce it, i.e. to abdicate).

      So, if William renounces his position (yeah right), George will be the next in line, after Charles.

  8. Kali says:

    Farewell William and Catherine from the land of the long white cloud! May we never have to hear our newsreaders breathlessly describe what you two were wearing ever again….

  9. Talie says:

    I’m not sure if William would be as hung up on being overshadowed as Charles was — truthfully, it’s now at a point that William’s son has taken top billing, as is normal. The new heir is here and the public always focuses on the new.

  10. Ray says:

    Kate is lazy on her own and so is William. perfect match.

    And what is he going to do with commercial license.. Its not like he is going to work seriously after that.

  11. Jaded says:

    Three words for Prince Balderdash….GET.A.LIFE.

    All this angsty navel-gazing is just an excuse to avoid the grunt work that comes with being born into wealth and position. Own it William, do the fecking job. All us commoners have to work long hours often doing things we’d rather not be doing but it’s called making a living and gives us the opportunity to do something meaningful with the rest of our time. I’m in my 60s and still have to work part-time to feed Uncle Hungry, but volunteer Reiki healing at a wellness centre for cancer patients.

    Most of us don’t have the luxury of faffing around wondering what we want to be when we grow up or feeling sorry for ourselves because we don’t want the responsibilities of being born privileged and Royal. Try working paycheque to paycheque, long hours, getting 2 measly weeks of vacation a year when you can’t even afford a vacation away. In other words, grow up. I really thought more of Diana’s work ethic and respect for the “underclasses” would have rubbed off on him but I guess not.

    • Suze says:

      If he had a plan, even a vague one, for using that license to add value to royal humanitarian work (for example, to drop off food to refugees in Central Africa, or to get supplies to families in flooded areas) I might be able to sign on to the latest scheme.

      I doubt there is any such plan in place.

      • Ayre says:

        This made me smile. I love how newspapers can fluff these kind of quotes up! Rather genius, actually. It’s worth pointing out that if you read the source article, Mr Townsend only says that William mentioned he would like to go for a commercial license:

        “He told me that being in a hall full of aircraft made him long to be flying again,” Mr Townsend said. “He’s got his private licence and he’s hoping for his commercial one.”

        “Hoping for” a commercial license is not announcing a new career direction. It’s a not uncommon goal in the flying community. He should probably find something concrete to do soon, though. He does seem to be at loose ends for someone his age.

      • Liberty says:

        This. He is going to get the certificate because of himself, what he likes – – he he HE HIM HMSELF!! He misses flying and wants to fly to be happier himself and so, okay, to fly more, go for a certificate…as Ayre says, it is not a career direction. As Suze says, I doubt there is a plan in place.

      • Hazel says:

        Now that is an excellent idea (flying supplies to refugee camps, for example), but I don’t think his mind veers that way. I think it’s more of a rich man’s hobby for him. John Travolta has a commercial license–shoot, he has his own airstrip by his house in Florida!–& he flies his family here & there. That’s probably as much thought PW gave it.
        Remember when Fergie got her pilot’s license ? Did she do anything with it? No. Neither will PW with a commercial license.

    • bluhare says:


  12. Loopy says:

    Maybe i need to do a little more research in exactly what ‘royal work’ is, because for the life of me i don’t see how it can be so hard or is it that they find it boring and tedious. Wouldn’t being a commercial pilot be much harder work?

    • Suze says:

      I don’t know that its hard, really, but I can believe it is dull and tedious and never ending.


    • Curious Cole says:

      I’d find the royal repetition and protocol stiflingly tedious. At least as an HRH you’re getting paid to meet new people and patron charities, with five star working vacations thrown in every year.

      Perhaps an earlier post was correct, and William has jewelry envy 😉 Holidays and the jewels are the best material freebies available to them, and he’s feeling ripped off, unable to partake in ALL the perks?

    • ArtHistorian says:

      I very much doubt that he has any idea about what work entails in the “real” world that the rest of us peasants inhabit. The same goes for his idea of being “normal”.

  13. FLORC says:

    We will forever hear about what William wants to do instead of earning his life of extreme indulgence and luxury.
    Lots of bloggers have said here William is the issue. Kate followed William around the world at a moments notice imo not because she is lazy, but because that’s how William lived and Kate had to adapt. Kate could be a hard worker imo. She’s driven in the right circumstances. Maybe i’m wrong though. Maybe she chose William because his status would provide financial security for life.

    • Suze says:

      I”ve never really fully signed on to the lazy Kate story line, only because when she wanted something (Wills) she showed great discipline and tenacity. Also, her family is very much steeped with a work ethic.

      I think she follows Wills lead. And right now he’s wandering.

      I do think they have done a good job with the latest tour. They are finally working very well together, and in my humble opinion, it’s Kate having a good effect on William. If they could build on that when they return, I may change my tune about them. Jury’s still out.

      • LadySlippers says:

        Agreed Suze.

        Most people, when they are engaged with something, excel. And William has shown he *can* excel. It’s the minute he feels he loses control that (IMO) he gets pissy. He started out loving his RAF job but I’m guessing there were LOTS of restrictions (Harry had them in Afghanistan which is why I think William had them as well) which caused him to fall out of love with his job and thus, almost lost his wings.

      • bluhare says:

        Agree with everyone, and absolutely no sympathy whatsoever for your (good) point, LadySlippers. We all lose control of our life every now and then. I am seriously losing patience with all this. His life is so awful, wah, wah. Well, get out of that rarefied air and come see what real life is like, William. You’ll be begging security to let you back in soon enough.

      • LadySlippers says:

        But bluhare, we lose control of our lives temporarily; he loses it for the *entirety* of his life.

        I have enormous sympathy for his predicament. However, I don’t agree with how he’s handled it though. In all fairness, I do think he feels powerless — I just don’t think he understands he can turn his feelings into a powerful change for the BRF, for the better.

      • hmmm says:

        “….we lose control of our lives temporarily; he loses it for the *entirety* of his life.”

        Explain that to the working poor and the down and out who have little control over their lives. William needs to grow up. It’s that simple. His privilege is obscene. I’ve got more deserving people to spend my sympathy on.

        He sounds like a control freak to me and indeed, tries to control many aspects of his life, largely, IMO, like a rebellious adolescent. We all have a duty to something, like our families, for example, and yet he is the special snowflake above duty or any demands on his life. Look how great an absentee father he has been.

      • bluhare says:

        Disagree, LadySlippers. I have to work to do things I enjoy, so I don’t have control of my life either. I wouldn’t be doing what I do now if I did. I can feel sympathy for him to a point, but only to a point. And I’m past that now!

      • LadySlippers says:

        Hmmm & bluhare,

        I AM in a predicament of being very close to heading into a homeless shelter (and am totally amazed that I haven’t been in one yet) due to finances, or lack thereof. I am unable to work (health reasons) and do not qualify for benefits either. So I’m ‘stuck’ in the very way you describe hmmm. I still can feel for the guy. Being poor doesn’t deprave me of my humanity.

        And while I do believe he has numerous options that are unavailable to me, I’m not sure I would trade my life for his. It’s a gilded cage, a very nice gilded cage — but it’s still a cage nonetheless. (Although it would be nice not to stress about money though)

        I am able to sympathethise but my sympathy is also up to a point. And that’s because I don’t agree with how he’s chosen to *handle* his situation. I very much believe he has been passive-aggressive for years so it’s not just a quarter-life crisis as others have suggested. He could be using his position to ‘update’ the monarchy as he has so famously mentioned before. He wants choices, which I totally understand, so fight for them. And help extend those choices to others that have choices taken away from them too.

        So I differentiate between my empathy and sympathy for his feelings/situations from how he’s chosen to handle said feelings/situations.

      • FLORC says:

        We do this every time Kate is seen in more than 2 back to back events or shows personality. We forget that once they return home William will leave for whatever reason and Kate will clear her schedule for shopping and hair appointments. I might be jaded or just very aware there’s a strong pattern here.

        So sorry to hear of your poor health. Hope it’s managed and under control.

        And William has been handed the world. He could do whatever he wanted. That gilded cage has an open door. He just chose to throw a pity party it seems. And I think William has more control than many of us over our own lives. We must work to survive. William does not and maintains a better standard of living. Yes, he has a future planned out for him, but it’s not as without choice as he makes it seem.
        In my early years of clinicals I had to convice a woman who called me a crazy cracker to let me have a poo she was holding onto. Yea.. William gets no sympathy or empathy from me.

      • hmmm says:


        He has way more control over his life than the poor (and many not so poor)- that was my point. Certainly, he’s had great latitude in his choices of “work” and a “gap year”. And meanwhile he gets lauded and fawned over in his gilded cage, while the poor, like caged animals, are oppressed and humiliated.

        His life has no necessity in it but it does offer duty, which he rejects. He can’t even commit to his kid, and it’s not like he’s out there scrabbling for money to support George. Like I said, he needs to grow up and stop whining. His life is obscenely privileged. He’s coddled enough, and deserves a good smack, not sympathy.

        ETA: I’ll never forget that he and Waity skipped out on the paralympics for another sun soaked holiday in France, and LIED about it.

      • bluhare says:

        LadySlippers, I can relate to more than you know. I do have my health, and I won’t be in a homeless shelter soon, but trust me when I say my life has been much smoother than it is now.

        I’d give you a bunch of suggestions that you’ve probably considered a million times, but at least know you have my thoughts on your side.

      • LadySlippers says:

        Thanks y’all. I mean it.

        (And my health is far from well managed right now. 🙁 Pray for me, please? I could use a change of luck, health, and opportunities right now.)

        Actually, William has very little control over his life. Up thread LAK mentions meetings and everything I’ve read has stated that William DOES have ideas and they get shot down right and left. William has very little control so he ‘gets even’ by pouting in a corner. Harry, in my opinion, has come to terms with what little control he has and fights for things to normalise himself. You know the ole saying — pick your battles. I think Harry has but William either can’t or won’t.

        An example for both men, Harry was only able to go up in the air while in Afghanistan if the situation was ‘just right’ which meant he was grounded more times than he wanted (this is from a tumblr blog that had a relative on base at the same time Harry was over there. The info she shared makes total sense with all the safety precautions senior Royals endure).

        My guess is it’s even worse for William. Harry, after a LOT of persuading others, was able to go to actually serve in Afghanistan. Not true of William. Not only could he not serve like he wanted — he probably could only fly when eveything was ‘just perfect’ which totally limited his love and ability to do his job. You all forget how that can wear on a person. I think both men want to be useful and actually be treated like MEN. David was the same way — being kidgloved isn’t fun for men or women.

        Not saying lying about your activities (France during the ParaOlympics) is excusible.
        (Nor is the other passive-aggressive stuff he does). But William is kinda really stuck. AND isn’t doing what he could to unstuck himself, or others.

      • Curious Cole says:

        LadySlippers I’ve been sending positive energy your way.

        An observation: It appears a majority of people railing against royals are actually upset at their own lot in life, and are using the cover topic of William as a way to vent their frustrations in a socially acceptable manner.

        Suze, I agree that William and Kate seem to have a great working relationship on this tour. It’s far more relaxed than their honeymoon tour of Canada. I’d like to see them to do more engagements together back in Britain after this.

      • FLORC says:

        Curious Cole
        I’m wondering how you have observed this. Meaning was there a poll of people just look miserable.

        Speaking for myself I’m happy in my life. When Kate turned into something young girls aspire to I grew dislike. And I mean that they wanted to grow up and be cared for by a man and never work.
        Also I would kill for her platform. And frustrated in a way that it would take nothing for her to use it.

      • Curious Cole says:

        Florc – just reading a lot of comments that start off about William but quickly turn to the commentator’s own life, which is why I noted it as an “observation”, not a poll.

        I likewise had high hopes for Kate’s charity work profile, because I do envy the platform she has to make a difference. I view that as a reasonable saving grace in exchange for losing one’s privacy forever. I really don’t like it when she’s called a role model either, although, sadly, I suppose she is to some.

    • Mel says:

      Lady Slippers: you hang in there.
      Things CAN change in a hearbeat – and not always for the worst. : )
      I do hope you regain whatever it is that you want or need the most.
      You sound like a brave heart.

      • bluhare says:

        LOL, Mel. I’m really looking forward to that light at the end of the tunnel NOT being the train!!

      • wolfpup says:

        Lady Slippers, you are so right, your humanity does not change whether you are poor or are a prince. The real value lies in our humanity. (We are waiting for the prince to show some of it).

        It’s hard, very, very hard to be afraid. I don’t know what your exact circumstances are, but I know that things will eventually work out for you and get better. One or two years of hardship will not be remembered so much as the scores of good years that you will certainly have. Don’t let this experience change the respect that you have for yourself. And remember that your humanity is cherished by great numbers of people.

  14. Nick says:

    I may be the only one but there is NO WAY I want to be on a 757 and hear the pilot of my plane is Prince William of Cambridge (or whatever his name would be). Though I know the chances of him actually flying a commercial airline is < .0000000000001%. Did I leave out a zero?

  15. Cazzee says:

    He could always just abdicate and give the throne over to Harry, if he hates it so much…you know, this isn’t the tenth century. Being a king nowadays is boring.

    William really needs to get used to that fact and deal.

    • LadySlippers says:

      Abdicate is something only a Sovereign can do.

      In order to step out of the Line of Succession, a bill has to pass in the UK and the entire Commonwealth. Which is something I think should have been incorporated into the last succession bill.

      • bluhare says:

        But it doesn’t mean he couldn’t start the ball rolling.

      • LadySlippers says:

        I genuinely think he feels powerless in this regard. Perception, like possession, is 9/10ths of it…

      • bluhare says:

        Still doesn’t mean he can’t start the ball rolling. Powerlessness is less confining when you admit to it.

      • AM says:

        Hasn’t the last succession bill still not actually passed in most of the Commonwealth? I think they’d actually be up a creek if George had been a girl, because it would have forced some of these countries to show their hand re: future plans to become republics.

      • bluhare says:

        AM, you’re right and I agree!

      • MinnFinn says:

        I think William has already set the ball in motion towards abdication and that he’ll make it even more clear after his granny passes away.

      • Penny says:

        He could simply ignore all the bureaucratic stuff, publicly announce that he will abdicate when it’s his time, and retire from royal life. He’d still be in the line of succession until Charles died and he could formally abdicate, but in the meantime he could opt out of all his royal duties, and no one could really do anything about that.

        Of course he won’t because despite all the grumbling he likes the perks being a future King grants him.

  16. qtpi says:

    Kate is judged for not doing more but I wonder if they are trying to restrict her a little bit lest she turn into another Diana. They are probably telling her to focus on being a Mom and to shop for suitable clothes for a Duchess.

    Seems that if the palace had an issue with what these two are up to (or not up to, for that matter) something would be done quickly. And nothing really changes.

    • T.C. says:

      I don ‘to think the palace is doing anything to stop Kate from working, maybe Wills but not the Queen or Charles. They used to try releasing info about how much work Kate’s going to do, how she’s picking her charities right now. Then they gave up when there was no follow through. Wills and Harry seem to pretty much decide on their own schedules within limits. No one’s trying to hold them back and everyone works more that Wills.

      • AM says:

        Exactly this, T.C. It’s always “she’ll be announcing more patronages shortly”. Even on this trip, when the pregnancy rumors came about, the unofficial response was, “she actually intends to increase her work schedule now that her unofficial maternity leave is wrapping up”. And once again, we’ll see.

    • bluhare says:

      I don’t think she ever has to worry about being another Diana. She doesn’t have it. But she does have the ability to eclipse William if he isn’t careful. That will be fun to watch. I don’t know why, but I suspect Charles will look like a saint with Diana compared to William with Kate.

      • kibbles says:

        I see more of Charles in William now and believe he would also feel threatened as his father did if Kate eclipses him. It isn’t difficult for any attractive woman in the position as the prince’s wife to eclipse guys like William and Charles who don’t have much charisma or good looks. I think whoever will be Harry’s wife will have a harder time eclipsing him though since he is much more charismatic and better looking than William.

    • LAK says:

      what TC said.

      You only have to look at Harry’s schedule to know that the palace isn’t holding anyone back.

  17. HoustonGrl says:

    I do believe the theory that William is a closet republican and that wishes to see the monarchy scaled back, A LOT. Just look at his behavior! Ever since college, he has been finding ways to evade his duties. Kate is on the same page. I think William genuinely does want to fly, but on a minimal scale, which isn’t unusual for rich people with spare time. Flying is an expensive hobby, a ‘sport de riche’!

    Nonetheless, William’s not in the wrong in some ways. Can you blame him? Look at what media, monarchy, power and wealth has brought his family, and his mother (God rest her soul)! If England did give up the monarchy, William and his family would be left in peace with generations of wealth at their disposal (castles, world class paintings, investments, and an unbelievable property portfolio). Maybe they would have to give up their London properties (and the maintenance of these) and jewels, but they would still have more than half a billion dollar fortune. William has never liked the spotlight and I think he sees these insignificant charity appearances for the charade that they are. One thing’s for sure, people know when they make a difference and when they don’t. Let’s be real, these little walkabout parades aren’t changing the world, and they bring him and his family a lot of scrutiny and exposure. Who would want to expose their baby to that? No one in their right mind.

    • bluhare says:

      They’d lose most of the property, castles and art. That belongs to the country. But he would have a nice tidy trust fund.

      • HoustonGrl says:

        Yes, but they would still own Sandringham and Balmoral, both estates with multiple stately homes and more than 40,000 acres of *prime* land. These properties alone are probably worth 300 million (at least). And the queen’s private fortune is estimated at $400 million plus, not to mention William’s inheritance and land from Diana, and Kate’s family, which is not too bad off either. Tidy trust fund is putting it mildly. These are some of the wealthiest people on earth.

      • bluhare says:

        Hence the nice, tidy trust fund, HoustnGrl. 🙂

      • Suze says:

        I would like to tuck myself in a cottage in the corner of the Sandringham property. No one would know I was there. I would be able to make myself useful gardening or cleaning or driving people places.

        I’m very unobtrusive.

        Given my job lately, this sounds good to me.

    • wolfpup says:

      I’ve wondered…what is the money these charities take in compared to the cost of the royals?

      • HoustonGrl says:

        that’s a really good question.

      • Christin says:

        Another question is how much tourism (economic benefit) can be truly attributed to the royals?

        My family traces to England and Ireland, and if I travel to the UK, catching a glimpse of the royals and / or their properties is actually one of the last things I’d spend my time doing. I live in an area of the US where UK ancestry is prevalent, and most people I know feel the same way.

      • CynicalCeleste says:

        How telling it is that we assume if they were not on the public dole they would stop doing any charitable works.

  18. jb says:

    I am really starting to think its prince charles that fears overshadowing. and he does not want either to look so great – look what happened when Diana overshadowed him? He sees the writing on the wall with both his kids/wives/girlfriend – if they look lazy then it works for him. Which also must work for the queen but I don’t get how. This tour is pretty intense — I mean, I’d love to visit NZ but this is actually work – so when Charles/Queen tells them to work, they work. Maybe the queen fears upstaging as well. I really think that the hire ups want the mommy – shopping – working out Kate and the keep trying new things William. It works for the higher ups. the whole pr office re-org makes sense too — they want Control. they lost control of Diana and they will never let that happen again.

    • bluhare says:

      On some levels I can see this, but if Charles is really serious about the streamlined monarchy (meaning only The Queen, DoE, him, Camilla, William, Harry and Kate right now) they need to work. All of them. There’s a lot of stuff to do with only 7 people, 2 of whom are trying to scale back. So that’s where it falls apart for me.

    • LadySlippers says:

      Except the Palaces have routinely stated that each Royal is in charge of their schedule — with the exception of a few mandatory engagements — everyone does their own thing.

      And Charles has been overshadowed by everyone now for over 30 years. He has come to terms with being less exciting than others and Camilla has helped with it too.

  19. bluhare says:

    You couldn’t have chosen a better photo to illustrate the article. The little plane that could(n’t)!!

  20. booklover says:

    I’m not sure if anyone else covered this but, if he “stepped aside” as the Duke of Windsor did “for the woman he loved”, then William and Kate could permanently vacation. Both the Duke and Duchess pretty much just wandered for years after his abdicated the throne. They lived the majority of their remaining years in France, after a tour of duty in the Bahamas, but they sure didn’t suffer when it came to having money. So – if these two were to do that, they could take all the vacations they want but they would still be plagued by the press because people would want to know what they were doing. Money would probably be funded by the Queen, or King Charles (!!), and they would have to live on that and his trust fund. They wouldn’t have the security provided for them by the government/taxpayers. But!!! what would Kate’s parents think? haha

    • consigliere says:

      The Windsors lived in France because they couldn’t return to live in England…both George VI and the Prime Minister forbid it. You couldn’t have two “kings” living in the country. And they were well off because Edward kept all the money he had earned from the duchy of Cornwall and then also made George VI buy out his portions of Sandringham and Balmoral. He was kind of a dick.

      I think stepping aside is not an option. However, he could have married a catholic and that would have taken care of all of this, no?

      • bluhare says:

        Or he could convert. 🙂

      • LAK says:

        OMG Blu: definitely. the bill hasn’t been ratified on the religion point. He could convert immediately and thus step aside. simples.

      • Curious Cole says:

        David/Edward was actually a huge dick, but that eventually worked to England’s advantage. I cannot see him and Wallis being even a shadow of the stalwart leaders that King George and the Queen Mum were during the Blitz/WWII.

        Blu – I applaud your sneakiness, I hadn’t thought of the Catholic clause! Converting would certainly do the trick, in a very tidy manner.

      • bluhare says:

        Thank you, Curious! It had never occurred to me before until I started typing but he just needs to choose another religion other than Church of England.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        People who knew Edward/David and Wallis (and didn’t like her in particular) do say that she, indirectly, helped save the British monarchy.

        Edward VIII was perhaps the king least trusted by his own government since James II in the 17th century – and James also got the boot. While he was king, The uneasiness and uncertaintay about his possible Nazi symphaties can’t have been reassuring to a government at war and Churchill had to threathen him with a court-martial to get him to leave an occupied France.

        He did abdicate for love – but that’s not the whole story.

    • Nick says:

      Weren’t they also portrayed as Nazi sympathizers to further outcast them?

      • bluhare says:

        Yes they were. But in their defence, so was a lot of the British upper class.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        So was many aristocrats in Denmark as well – of course, that changed to an extent when the country was invaded and occuped by Nazi Germany.

  21. The Original Mia says:

    I think William needs to grow a pair and step aside. But he won’t because although he’s loathed to be king, he likes being royal and rich. No respect or sympathy for him. Shame on him for not being a man and stepping aside before he married and had a child. The people deserve better, especially in these trying times.

  22. itsetsyou says:

    I think she will eventually overshadow William, she seems pretty down to earth and willing to take on responsibilities. William comes off as entitled.

    As for the photo with her harsh face – have you ever caught yourself in the mirror at the moment of thinking or listening to something intently? You’d be surprised at the way you look.

    • Francis says:

      Kate has looked old for her age for the past few years, she and the other Middleton ladies just have hard faces. If you ever catch a close up of Late unretouched before the DMail and UK press get a chance to take the bags and lines out of her face, she looks a good 40 and that’s no joke. I’ve never found her to be more than a plain faced girl,lady with a ton of hair she uses to pass herself off as a beauty, she’s not a beautiful woman, she never has been. IMO

  23. A:) old prude says:

    For those who were saying their NZ trip is not a vacation but reasonable royal work, here are some numbers:

    Prince Charles did 53 engagements in same no of days as William had in NZ at the age of 60 plus, while only taking 1 day off.

    In comparison William did 19 total engagements in same days and took 3 days off.

    Just look at the difference between William and his old father’s engagements, this trip is as i said 1 long vacation.

    PS Kate’s engagements are even less then William but I’m not criticizing her as I get she can’t do more then what her husband does.

  24. idk says:

    What exactly would his “royal work” include? Seems like it’s more work trying to avoid “royal work” than actually just doing “royal work”.

  25. John says:

    Elizabeth will never permit it. Since flight plans have to be filed, he would be a sitting/flying duck for anyone who wanted to assassinate him.
    And kill a planeful of people.
    As long as Granny and Dad are still alive and Harry’s willing to take on the mantle, Wills and Kate will likely continue to enjoy their extended vacation until Charles dies. Too bad, I wasn’t a huge Lady Di fan, but she hustled for the Crown– and later, her charities– like a soldier.

    • LadySlippers says:

      QEII wouldn’t say no but The Grey Men certainly would.

      • John says:

        She would forbid it. Flying random people around on non-official or non-military business is not an appropriate job for a royal.

      • bluhare says:

        Oh my word, John, I think you may be right. That might be only marginally better than being *shudder* in trade!

      • LadySlippers says:

        Not true.

        QEII was very supportive of Edward & Sophie’s non-Royal businesses. They had to stop for numerous other reasons but they had her full support. Other junior Royals have needed to work and she’s been very supportive as well.

        The Grey Men usually put the kabosh on something like this — not HM herself.

      • bluhare says:

        Come on, LadySlippers. Let us have some fun thinking of the Queen being horrified at William’s plebeian endeavors!

      • John says:

        Ladyslipper- Heading up one’s own “non-Royal business” and transporting the masses for an airline are two very different endeavors.

    • Reece says:

      Exactly! He’d be a target and a plane full of people would die because he refuses to get over it, grow the eff up and deal with his life as it is.

      I really would like to not believe this but you never know.

    • Cersei says:

      Maybe he could be a crop duster for Daddy’s agriculture empire.

  26. Nymeria says:

    “Decent-to-good”? Are we talking about the same woman?

    I don’t believe Willie’s a closet republican; he’s not that noble. Dude’s a leech who loves dipping into the public coffers but doesn’t actually want to give anything back.

  27. anne_000 says:

    Remember that painting that was criticized for making Kate look old? That photo under the article looks like that painting.

    • Francis says:

      Darn right that painting in The NationL Gallery was accurate. The problem is the UK press retouched Kate’s photos for years. I have friends who saw her up close and said she has badly pockmarked skin in places and looks way older in person.

  28. RobN says:

    I think that if she worried about over shadowing William, she wouldn’t have thrown up the “L” for loser when her boat beat his during that racing day. That was great and it got a lot of coverage; she wouldn’t have done it if she weren’t feeling pretty secure in her relationship and how she’s viewed.

    • LAK says:

      She ruined that moment by apologising to him as soon as they were on land plus he retold the episode as one of his least favourite memories of the tour in a speech. ‘a joke’ obviously, but it makes one go mmmmmmm

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I’ve always found Williams ‘jokes’ rather passive-aggressive, which is a pattern of his!

        However, I must admit that I’m also rather sensitive to this issue. With passive-aggressive people snide comments are often couched as jokes, which makes it easy to brush it off when people object to this form of communication.
        I’ve had a many, many opportunities to observe this form of communication – because that’s what it is, not just a joke. In fact, jokes are another form of communication that can be extremely loaded, both emotionally and politically.

    • Jocelyn says:

      That’s hilarious. I have a feeling I’d like Kate much more if I really knew her and not the sugary PR scheme we usually get.

    • itsetsyou says:

      Where can I see a picture of her doing the “L”? I keep hearing about the joke

  29. Emily C. says:

    There have been plenty of terrible monarchs who weren’t trying to bring the monarchy down. Quite the opposite. Because of “Divine Right”, they thought they were entitled to get literally everything they wanted when they wanted, to never have one ounce of trouble in their lives, and that everyone else existed to service them. It’s a pretty common attitude for people born into wealth to have. Add “born into royalty” to that, and you get Will. He’s not even the worst of them by a long shot yet, though that may largely be because people realized long before he was born what a terrible idea monarchy with power is.

    I don’t get the point of monarchy without power either, but whatever. Will’s supposed to run around doing good works and being good PR, and he’s not doing that, and I don’t think he’s ever going to do that, and I don’t think it’s going to matter. The English monarchy’s been through worse. I think people have the impression that Queen Elizabeth II is the norm. The norm’s actually a lot more like Will, though he’s abnormal in apparently being faithful to his wife. Of course, they haven’t been married long.

    • Angelique says:

      The BRF should really be working hard because the tide is turning against them. As Charles once said, there is a monarchy as long as people accept it.
      Will and Kate has done the opposite of what the tour was meant to do; foster good will between the BRF and Aus and NZ. Mostly what they’ve done is show of their freeloading, lazy ways.
      You know a lot of toys have been given to George. Did Kate and Will bring any toys for the other babies at the play date.

  30. Big Boo says:

    Perhaps Prince William ought to start a charity where he teaches disadvantaged young
    people how to fly, or prepare for the written aspects of pilot training. Or as a helicopter pilot he could agree to ferry needed supplies to areas where people require help in some way. This would utilize he could use the skills he’s gained, make a difference, and not just blow away his Royal position. He needs to talk to a career counsellor or his father, The Prince of Wales ! Yes, Prince William is at that junction point whereby he needs to start formulating projects and things to do that will endure for the rest of his life. Prince Charles went through a similar “What is my calling” period and came up with solutions for himself. ps: Obtaining a second wife would be useful in the future after he sends Kate off packing into the sunset. She is turning out to be unsuitable for Royal life for a variety of reasons IMO.

    • wolfpup says:

      What do you mean “unsuitable for royal life for a variety of reasons”? What are some of the reasons?

  31. Jocelyn says:

    I just find this whole thing funny now honestly. A commercial pilot… Next we’re going to hear he’s trying his hand at acting! Okay,probably not but I’m sure he’ll find something.

  32. greta2 says:

    Ben Affleck is 40+ if I’m not mistaken, but looking at his picture right below Baldtop’s, Affleck looks like the younger one!! Must be all the stresses of being a hard-working royal 😉

  33. jhava says:

    someone tell that man to shave it off or pop a rug on it, cus his three count is so low it is now officially a sheer fabric. literally his hair on top looks like a failed growth experiment or some forest-floor fungi and it is time to abort.

  34. Fan says:

    He just wants to be free. Free from what I don’t know.

  35. Bwarf says:

    What’s the big deal? He’s doing exactly what the transitional year is for, learning about all the things having to do with becoming the heir and everyone is faulting him for it because he’s not going whole hog into royal duties and still showing an interest in other things. He likes flying, so what if he wants his commercial license, he’s allowed to have interests.

    The Cambridges aren’t doing anything more or less than what is expected of them at this stage.

    All the criticism is harsh considering that none of us knows the extent of the work he will have when the Queen dies. Prince Charles learned by doing, William has the chance to learn first and that should come in handy, especially given what he will inherit- the Duchy, the charities, the duties, etc. If he’s going to have any part in even half the stuff Charles does, he’s going to need all the training he can get and he’s at the the perfect point in his royal career because he’s not yet the heir but he’ll most likely be the heir soon enough so he has the time.

    My opinion is that the royal family and the British government have realized that they can’t just throw someone completely into royal duties. It is a post-Diana monarchy, she still affects them to this day, no doubt William is still affected by her and her death as is the rest of the royal family. After all that happened with Diana and even Fergie, I think the RF is doing a good job of prepping William and Kate.

    Don’t forget, Charles had a lot of extracurricular interests in his younger days as well. We all live in a very different world from the British aristocracy. Like someone said earlier from Harry’s comment, their normal is a very different kind of normal. I try to empathize with that and put myself in their shoes which I guess is why I’m not as critical as others.

    • FLORC says:

      If William acted like he was taking his bespoke program seriously this wouldn’t be an issue. He’s pulled this exact same move before. And he keeps pushing back a deadline to take on duties. The best way to prepare is to dive in and learn that way.

      And William of course can have interests and hobbies. This just seems more like he’s killing time and has no real desire to fly commerical. Plus, for security reason it would never ever happen.

      As far as William being affected by his mothers passing, sure. It’s tough losing a parent at that age. But it was said long before this Williams behavior was always woe as me. Diana even commented she was not suited to be King and didn’t have the temperment for it.
      And he plays his mothers son card often. Always to get out of trouble. Meanwhile Harry also lost his mother and honors her by being active in her charities.
      So, if he feels so burdened he can step aside. He does have limited time. The Queen and Charles could pass tomorrow. The man is 31 and is still caliming he needs more time before helping to relieve his grandparents of their grueling work loads. Harry is doing that.

      So, just like after the RAF it was said he will delay his responsibilities. And then came the gap year/bespoke, and then Commercial flight. And then something else.

    • bluhare says:

      And this is his second gap year, for lack of a better term, where he tries to figure out what he wants to do. Problem is, it’s not what he wants to do, it’s what he has to do. And it appears he doesn’t really like it.

      I’ll admit it, though. I wish I had the resources he does so I could sit back for a year in luxury while I figure out what I want to do when I grow up.

    • My2Pence says:

      “The Cambridges aren’t doing anything more or less than what is expected of them at this stage. ”

      As has been stated repeatedly, on the record by the Palace, they set their own schedules. This NZ/AU Club Med trip was entirely their own idea according to the official spokesman.

      There are clearly people who expect much more of them, probably both increasingly-critical taxpayers and members of the BRF. They set their own schedule, they make their own choices, and they are choosing to be 1) lazy and 2) to faff about with excuses like “gap year” rather than getting to work.

  36. justkate says:

    He isn’t needed yet. There is still a reigning queen to do the royal work, and a princely heir doing more than is required even though he’s not been called yet. When Will is the monarch, he will step up. If he doesn’t, then he deserves the snark. Until then, I say leave him alone.

    • wolfpup says:

      I think that Florc is right when she says that Harry is honoring his mother’s memory by working.

    • Deedee says:

      I would think William would feel obligated to work, not only to “earn” his luxurious lifestyle, but also because there are plenty of charities and causes that could use help. What a tremendous platform he and Kate have to do good, yet they seem largely unmotivated. Such a waste.

    • My2Pence says:

      “princely heir doing more than is required even though he’s not been called yet.”

      Had to read that a couple of times to make sure I wasn’t imaging that it had been written.

      Charles has worked hard his entire life to try to make life for the average Joe Bloggs better, to protect the environment, to preserve the history of the UK. This is not “more than required” it is exactly what he (and his family) should be doing. Be of use, prove your worth, dedicate your life to your country, dedicate your life to trying to make things better. This is an enormous part of why the royals are still tolerated, it is not surplus to requirement.

      Charles is already taking on increasing duties from HM, so he has to be able to pass some of what he’s doing off onto William, Kate, and Harry now. They are needed NOW, especially with the plan to streamline down to just Charles, Camilla, William, Kate Middleton, Harry, Harry’s spouse.

      Average retirement age in the UK 64.6 for men, 62.3 for women (both are on the rise). Please note the ages of the royal workhorses vs. the lazy duo.

      Her Majesty, 87 (88 this month)
      Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, 92
      Prince of Wales, 65
      Duchess of Cornwall, 66
      Princess Royal (Anne), 63
      Princess Alexandra, 77
      Duke of Glouchester, 69
      Duchess of Glouchester, 67
      Duke of Kent, 78
      Earl of Wessex, 50
      Countess of Wessex, 49
      Prince Michael of Kent, 71
      Princess Michael of Kent. 69

      • justkate says:

        I think you’ve helped me make my point. When William is called, he’ll be working until he dies at a job he doesn’t want, without any hope of retirement. He is not needed yet. Charles has worked most of his life because he has been the Prince of Wales (the next in line) most of his life. That isn’t William’s story. There is lots of time.