Alright, let’s talk about Beyonce. Beyonce Beyonce Beyonce. Queen B. Our lord and savior Beysus. We knew coming into the VMAs that Beyonce was definitely going to perform and that she was definitely going to pick up the MTV Video Vanguard Award. We also knew that Beyonce would explicitly or implicitly address the now-constant rumors about her marriage being in shambles. We were all waiting to see if Jay-Z was there, if they would sit together, if Bey would make a reference to her marriage. And they made us wait and wait and wait. But it was worth it.
First, Bey walked the red carpet alone. She also did the press room, backstage, alone. No Jay-Z. But Jay was seen on the backstage camera early on in the night, and we saw that he was there and he was holding on to Blue Ivy. By the way, Beyonce’s red carpet look was the black lace Nicolas Jebran Couture. I’m not into it, but I rarely like lace on a red carpet, it usually looks cheap and Fredrick’s of Hollywood to me. Beyonce’s burgundy Zuhair Murad dress in the press room was a tad better, but still not really great.
So, with everybody primed and everybody waiting until the very last moment for Queen B, she finally arrived. There was a smoke machine. There were her special Bey-fans. There were amazing back-up dancers. There were stripper poles and dramatic back-lighting. And Bey kicked our asses for 16 minutes, doing mostly a medley of songs off her new album. She even threw in part of her “Flawless” remix with Nicki Minaj, referencing “a billion dollars on an elevator.”
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Even for Beyonce, this seemed like an especially emotional performance, right? But I always have to give it to her – she WORKS. She brings production value to everything. She made the VMAs a must-watch event. Anyway, after she performed and cried and busted her ass, Jay-Z came on stage with Blue Ivy to present Bey with her Video Vanguard Award. Well-deserved. I feel like their body language was supposed to tell us that everything is fine, that they’re working through their problems. But what I got out of it was that Bey was acknowledging that they were having problems. I tweeted this last night and I think it’s true: they’re not breaking up now. Not this week. Not next week. But maybe in October.
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I do not buy anything coming from this woman, and about her divorce (to me it’s like Clooney wedding: I’ll believe it when I’ll see it) , I am more interested in the Mariah’s one.
BUT: I really like the red dress.
They showed the baby to say there is more to us than money, we have a child to think of. However, I am so done with them. Just freakin announce your marriage is not working.
She looks pulled. Her face looks hard. This whole happy family crap is taking its toll.
When I first saw her I thought it was her mom
She likes good. I never was a hardcore fan of hers. I was a mid-way fan, but I was done after that Grammy performance and those raunchy MV’s she did for her last album.
I agree there on your critique. All together she always looks like that when she is all covered in makeup and glitter. I
Yes. She looks a whole lot like her mother.
Everything is for show, and bringing their daughter to make a point is so tacky to me.
She is almost on Kartrashian level now, pimping her kid for favorable PR. Blech!
ITA. Genuine? Hahaha,nothing coming from B is genuine at all!! The red dress is spectacular, the black one is godawful.
this post was oh so on point.
Only thing that would have made it better is if Blue Ivy came out and shot divorce papers out of a t-shirt cannon into the audience.
Also, that Zuhair Murad dress looks like a Kim Zolciak “Tardy for the Party” knock off. Oooof.
All I could think about when I saw the spider-weby dress was, Jay Z better have his food tasted because she looks like Black Widow
“Only thing that would have made it better is if Blue Ivy came out and shot divorce papers out of a t-shirt cannon into the audience.”
LMAO, I feel bad for laughing cause it involves an innocent little baby.
LOL!
Hahahahaaa!!! Amazing!
And little North West coming up and pushing Blue off the stage, ‘Yo, Blue! I’m happy for ya and Imma let you finish but my parent’s marriage is the greatest of ALL TIME!’ Drops the mic, then kicks Taylor Swift for good measure as she waddles off stage.
Bwaaaaahahaha!
I know she is very ambitious and wants to be this great legend one day, but she has worked hard since she was a child, she has all the money in the world, she should jst relax for a year or so and just handle the business aspect of her empire. She looks strained, take a rest Queen B.
Huh? She was off for what, 2 years, after “4” ? She only just came back, lol.
2 years, don’t think i remember since she became famous, her ever taking two years off. Maybe months, the official line was maybe two years but she did not completely rest,she was touring up until she was showing.
I never recall her disappearing for a solid year even.
you mean when her pillow was showing???
Great advice–I feel this way not only about her but so many over-hyped celebs. She needs a break. The public needs a break from her. After the break we will all be so excited to see each other again.
Perhaps this dates me, but I miss the days when a star or band would only release an album and tour about every 3 or 4 years. It really built up anticipation for that new music. Now, if the new album is released more than a year after the last tour date, it’s called a “comeback.”
She can’t take a break, she is just another race horse in the entertainment biz. If she doesn’t race she doesn’t make money. She is a very sad reminder for how brutal showbiz is, but she is driven, fame hungry and greedy. But if you overdo it, like she clearly does, people lose respect. I wonder what crappy PR and other shady people she has around her giving her bad advice. I almost feel sorry for her, because she looks very strained and unhappy. But on the other hand she is just one of those cheap singers young girls look up to, making them believe taking your clothes off and shaking your bits represents a strong feminist idea.
Taking your clothes off when you feel like it IS a feminist idea.
Objectification is coming from men who see that in her performance, it’s not coming from the women performing!
Black dress is a HELL no, Red was Better, Performance onesie, VERY elaborate
Amazing job of doing a gazillion songs and switching from one to the other and the other like that(even the ones i never give a full listen cause meh! Everything not Flawless/Blow/Partition/haunted/grown woman) , and not losing breath and all that good stuff, Lovely baby, a bit disingenuous to tell is she was too emotional at seeing her husband and baby and performing stuff she does every night but it was irresistible nonetheless and the best of the night
Blue Ivy KILLED me with her little dancing. ADORABLE.
Yeah, I felt she was acting too much after watching it a couple of times
Best thing about her performance :
https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/48F099E5E41115526715146383360_2c00c311539.5.1.13162063435510817045.mp4?versionId=UFF703YhuuCh8.Yy3LqCTF_71kP.aCin
Bonus :
http://cdn2.crushable.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Blue-Ivy-single-ladies-dancing-2014-vmas.gif
Blue Ivy was THE best part of the whole night for me lol. The “yay mommy” part was cute too.
So cute!
Have you seen the video of Blue dancing during all of Beyonce’s songs and Jay’s reaction? Those videos were so cute!! They looked so happy and proud of her last night
Yeah, she’s an adorable little girl! For her sake I hope the divorce rumors are just that: rumors.
And HOLY CRAP is Bey an amazing performer. Her show was above and beyond the best one of the night!
Impossible to watch that and not smile. She’s adorbz.
Jay Z looks cute. haha
You know, I really have a major pash for Jay Z. He reminds me of a really great guy I had a fling with…who was white and half Jay’s height, so gawd knows where the resemblance lies.
That’s funny, Chris, cuz one of my best buds is this totally scrawny white guy who looks exactly like Jay-Z, same mannerisms too. Makes me laugh everytime I see him.
good lord, she’s a cutie pie.
That’s just too adorable.
I’d like to say that Bey was the highlight of the night but Blue pretty much stole the show for me lol. That kid can already dance better than Swiftie.
Bey’s performance was the best performance of the night for me though, 16 minutes felt like 5. Such an engaging performer. She made all the Grande Lattes and Jessie Js seem flat.
Lol Blue totally does have the moves. And more like a Grande half caf non fat easy on the foam. Blahs.
Liked your write up. Aren’t we all a fight away from stained relationship. There no different. They’re not breaking up. Just like everyone else. Marriage shit. It’s a hustle. She was excellent last night amongst a bunch of nothing. Everything else paled. Except maybe Sam Smith. And that Queen worked it. He can sang.
Was it really necessary to call him a “Queen”? Kinda offensive
Marriage is a hustle indeed. I’m not sure if what Jay-Z and Beyonce have is simply a business arrangement or a marriage based on love(I suspect it is somewhere in between) but I do think they respect each other’s talent and ambition, they both love their child, and they love their image as a couple.
Seeing as they are both hustlers, I suspect that they will work their butts off to salvage the marriage. I can’t see them divorcing.
Purely damage control. She’s trying to convince us her business arrangement/marrige is fine. Now she’s using Blue as a prop in her PR game. She tries so hard to hide the baby face on her instagram so why expose her on national television. I found her performance boring and nothing special.
totally agree. her songs sounded all too generic, and i don’t really get all the hype around her and this cringe-fest “QUEEN B” thing. Her getting teary-eyed was the highest cringe-worthy moment.
I don’t think she used Blue last night since she’s been sharing videos of Blue as part of a segment for On the Run tour, it fits the whole theme of their tour. And last night Beyonce was basically showing us a glimpse of her tour
She’s a prop. Think about it. Bey didn’t start using Blue’s full frontal face until after Elevator gate. It’s all to distract from the rumors of trouble in paradise. She went full circle with her damage control last night. The crying was laughable because it wasn’t genuine, it’s Bey putting it on for the cameras.
Uh no. There is footage of toddler Blue on her album (the track ‘Blue’), face hidden and then at the end at least 10 seconds of her full face (close up) and talking.
Then on the tour (not sure if it was Mrs. Carter or On the Run or both), there is LOADS of footage of her and Jay holding baby Blue, full body pregnancy shots with Jay cupping Bey’s belly NAKED (funny how NOBODY was talking about this despite the fact that this is the proof the conspiracy theorists wanted) and footage of toddler Blue.
On her documentary she also showed Blue’s face after months of people talking about why she doesn’t show her child etc as if we’re entitled to it. So yes, I feel like the parents have every right to control the way their child is shown to the world. Especially when they’re so famous.
Then on Tumblr there is one shot where you can see her face and this is pre-Elevator gate.
Anna was right.
I’ve seen pics of Ivy full frontal before, I didn’t say we never saw her face. TMZ has shown her face as well as pap shots. Bey even showed her when she was an infant and I saw that well planned staged documentary as well.
That still doesn’t change my opinion that for the most part Bey usually hides Ivy’s face and this is damage control to the fullest. The footage of the family is what she is using on the “On the run tour” . Elevator gate happened before that tour started. This is a well excuted plan by Bey and her team to prove their marriage is fine. She’s just over dosing now and a lot of us are not buying it.
i think it’s just terrible to use an innocent child for PR.
the entire “performance/presentation” seemed like a carefully orchestrated damage control move.
whatever it was, it has EVERYONE talking…
so they succeeded.
Except you did, you do know your original post is still up?
Bey didn’t start using Blue’s full frontal face until after Elevator gate.
And I gave enough examples to dispute your claim. And since you know that, what are you really discussing? Whether it’s planned or not? Well yeah, why wouldn’t they plan it? What’s so evil about it? In a world where celebs sell their children to magazines and photo ops, Beyoncé clearly doesn’t and finds other ways to keep her fans happy with personal stuff.
Whether it’s planned or not doesn’t matter, fact is Bey showed it us so no she didn’t use it AFTER Elevator gate. In fact, there are more pics and video before that incident LOL.
I also forgot she showed Blue’s face during her Beyoncé album explanation. Also pre-Elevator 🙂
Yes I said until after Elevator gate wish is false because like I said I have seen her face. That being cleared up Bey has turned it up a notch on using Blue’s frontal starting with the recent tour and her performance last night. She does hide her face more than she shows it.
Still doesn’t change my opinion that this is just a PR stunt and Bey doing damage control. She’s trying to make the public believe all is,well with that business arrangement. So yeah it does matter because she is using that baby as a prop. She’s using her even more since elevator gate. She upped her game by bringing Blue to an award show and parading her on stage. She’s pathetic.
She does hide her face more than she shows it.
She’s using her even more since elevator gate.
Which one is it? Using her or hiding her?
Seems to me like Beyoncé just gives us a bit more occasionally. She gave out the baby pics for free full face then months of nothing until the documentary. Then her Tumblr pics of hiding Blue’s face while paps provide the public with full face shots (out of Bey’s control), then Bey gives us full face. There’s a pattern, she knows there’s a demand and people complain either way. Fans (like me) are happy with whatever is provided. And frankly, considering people’s mean comments about this child, I don’t blame Bey for protecting her child. She knows Blue is in demand but we don’t see daily pap walks or even her Tumblr pics aren’t excessive!
Blue was backstage the whole time until Bey was onstage, while this was obviously planned, I can’t really snark on her when most celebs actively sell their baby pictures and then complain about invasion of privacy. Bey just plays a different game.
What’s your point? I said yes we have seen Ivy’s face before but I bet you will find more pics where her face is concealed than it is shown where Bey is concerned. Posting my comment of what I wrote doesn’t change that,so once again what is your point?
Yeah there are some celebs that sell pics of their kids and they own that. But Bey always said her personal life is private but now she’s trying really hard to share her personal life with us starting with that pathetic documentary. Notice how that docementary had a lot to do with her pregnancy because people were saying she used a surrogate. Even when they showed her belly it was in silhouette or they never showed her face and belly in one shot. She’s trolling us with that sham of a marriage and it’s funny to see how some people are falling for it hook, line and sink. If people didn’t really care about what Bey does why are they defending her so hard?Let people have their opinions even though it may differ from yours.
I don’t understand the problem with wanting your child to witness you achieving a career milestone. We all do it on a peasant level, they just have cameras that stream worldwide. Why is it always a case of “using”? That’s way too bitter and cynical for my taste.
And why should she tell everyone that her marriage is having problems when they’re trying to work through them? It’s none of our business. We can gossip and wonder but at the end of the day, if I don’t expect my cousin to tell me everything wrong in her relationship, I don’t expect Bey to owe me that explanation. You don’t go into work talking about the horrible aspects of your personal life, why should Beyoncé or any other celeb? V4Real, seriously get real. It’s ok to admit that your original statement was false. If you can’t admit that on an anonymous blog comment, how do you have the nerve to demand that Bey admit problems in her marriage to the world? The internet, hotbed of logic.
@V4Real , that’s exactly what I thought. You took the words right out of my fingers. Cringe worthy all around. When Jay brought Blue to the stage I thought it was cheap to use her daughter to try to get the rumours of her divorce to go away and then we have the crying, God that fel the fakest of all the fake rolling around.
Like Sonny and Cher bringing their child on stage.
Beyonce is first-class as a performer and she’s def a hard worker. It’s who she is. Everything, and I mean every little single thing is calculated and thought out. It’s no wonder that her personal life is exactly like her stage life. But even she can’t hide it anymore. That was some overly-staged sh*t last night, trotting out Blue(yes, very adorable kid) and jay to present her award to her. Please stop trying to pull wool over my eyes, B. I’m allergic. And it ain’t working.
+1000
I agree. I think it’s gross to use your child for this.
V4REAL I have to disagree. Bey showed her daughter’s full frontal in her documentary, in the Blue video and throughout the tour. The VMAS are special to her, especially since she announced her pregnancy there.
As for the crying, Bey is NOT a good actress. I think the tears were real. She was probably overwhelmed and felt honored. Also, she cries at the end of tours so I didn’t see this as anything different.
V4Real – I completely agree!!! Blue is her ace in the hole, if the chosen one can’t distract ppl from the negative, nothing can. Hiding the kid’s face was keeping the ace up her sleeve – strategic and planned from the start, she just didn’t when/how she’d need to play it.
God help her if some other unplanned negative event leaks – Bey’s out of moves, and I will thoroughly enjoy watching the narcissist control freak squirm.
Exactly! You would think that people would know all of this stuff since they are perched in these threads like it’s a personal vendetta. There were so many posts about this, selective memory….You can find the Blue footage on their tours on Tumblr.
And totally, Bey sucks at acting. I bring forth ‘Obsessed’ as the only evidence we need! She’s best (like Madonna) when she has to be herself. When it’s all about her. Add to the fact that she looks tired as hell and I fully believe her emotions were real. When you work as hard and long as she does, it’s not hard to imagine the few moments she can ‘relieve’ herself of the constant pressures of fame and performing. And this was that kind of moment.
@antisocial
LMAO!
@Almondjoy
Agree! People really do have selective memory.
As I said above I too have seen that well planned documentary. No selective memory here. I also have seen Ivy’s face before but Bey hides her face more than she shows it. She has just turned up her game since elevator gate which happened before The On the run tour.
And just because you think someone is a bad actress doesn’t mean they can’t cry on demand. Hell I’m not an actress and I can do it. That was as fake as her lace front wig.
I meant cry on command.
@antisocial, I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy, but I seriously doubt Bey was planning to keep Blue out of view as a strategy for any future, possible damage control. As any thinking parent would who has to deal with the paparazzi, she was obviously trying to protect her daughter. I’m not saying she hasn’t possibly used her for damage control at some point, but initially, and for the most part it was for the protection of her child.
This this this.
They used their baby as a prop. For publicity. That is sick and disgusting.
They BOTH have been pushing that child into the limelight since she was born. I don’t care if all the photos are of her back. It is gross.
And BeYawnce was awful. Over engineered, overdone, just crotch, head twist, hand movement, repeat. If this is the best this years has to offer, well…what can I say. the MTV VMA’s are boring, boring, boring. Everyear is worse. It is just a showcase for the Alist. Even the clothes were awful. This was not the Oscars. What happened to the musicians who used to dress like muscians, not celebrities. The celebrity culture has eaten the music industry. And bey and Jay are scarfing down the most. Egotistical famewhores.
Great post Rudy. You forgot to mention how shitastic both of her dresses were …
that black dress makes her look incredibly short
She’s really starting to look like her mother, how her mother looks now in the present day.
I don’t understand the woman’s clothes, it’s like she doesn’t want to look good.
Agree. She could look elegant and sexy and showgirl all at the same time, but her inherent taste in clothes is just not that great.
I did not even know the VMA’s were on! I guess Beyoncé just doesn’t have the same impact on the public consciousness as Miley Cyrus these days.
I don’t understand your comment, Miley was there in the ugly leather tube top, did you not notice because she wasn’t twerking badly?
That black dress looks like a Halloween costume. I see skeleton legs, or something like that (Pinocchio legs?), within the glitter panels. The red dress is better, but I’m not in love with it either.
Both dresses suck and she looks really tired in these photos.
I thought she looked very Solange-y in the photos, or as another poster wrote up thread, much like her mom. And yes, very tired.
Bringing the baby onstage? They’re done.
Damn that red carpet dress is ugly. Beyonce has always been such a tacky dresser. She’s her mother’s daughter, no doubt about that.
But it was part of the Vanguard award (or whatever they called it) so it wasn’t just another performance like the other artists last night. Why not go over the top with the baby, for an award that acknowledges her as a music icon?
Beyonce never seems genuine. The performance was good, not my cup of tea, but good. The whole Jay-Z and crying part was annoying.
Never had an ‘Elevator Incident’ but several times a year my neighbours probably think we’re breaking up. We aren’t. I’m so pleased we’re not famous.
Made me laugh. Life in the public eye would suck bananas.
LOL
i’m with you @charlotte!
Yes @ Charlotte
THIS!
Yeah the announcement is coming soon. Baby on stage was overkill. So she can stop hiding her face in all the pics now right?
I thought that was odd too, for all the photos they post they never actually show her face, but then bring her out for all of this media spectacle?
Beyonce is a controlfreak. She hides the face because she can. She decides when we are worthy enough to see her offspring (barf)
She hid the kids face partially because of people’s mean comments about the kid’s looks. The thing is you are famous, so why the need of pics of your kids anyway, unless it is every blue moon.
@Sozual People talk about that little girl’s looks a lot. There was even a petition started about her hair. On some level I get why Beyonce only shows the back of Blue’s head. On the other hand she just shouldn’t show Blue at all.
Agreed! People are cruel out there. That is exactly why I was saying what you said.
I adore Queen Bey for life. Her performance was amazing.
But at the end there she was SO try-hard emotional. They’re totally done.
She did great. I liked hers better than Justin T last year.
I personally loved her performance and thought it was great and the tears at the end with Blue and Jay seemed so genuine. Both of them were really into the performance, you just have to watch the videos of them watching Bey. I don’t see how people figure she’s “using Blue” since when Beyoncé wins these types of awards her family always presents it to her and the VMAS have always been important to Bey, she announced her pregnancy there so this was showing how far she’s come since then. The whole performance made sense to me lol I’m shocked some of you guys are calling her tears fake and whatnot. People seriously can’t give her a break at any point and it’s kind of sad and embarrassing now.
agreed!
I think there is a lot of jealousy over her success and that’s why she attracts so many negative comments on line. She’s talented and their baby is darling.
It did seem kind of final last night. Maybe it is over, for real. Not just to sell tickets…
interesting…so, you think last night was the FINAL for beyonce and jayz?
was that the emotion she showed?
B can’t dress but she can sing so who cares. Blue is adorable and Jay Z looks cute. They’re going through shit but they’re married and I’m sure they’ll work through it. This seemed to me a ‘we’re family and we’re sticking together’ kind moment. And she’s a complete cornball who cries over back up dancers, so i can imagine she felt overwhelmed at the end. Those saying those tears were fake are no doubt the same who think blue ivy is not her biological child/she’s sleeping with her bodyguard/has a surrogate pregnant with twins/etc.
Can’t wait until it airs tonight in the UK and i can watch it in full. Not her hugest fan but girl always puts on a show, and i admire her drive and professionalism, particularly when put next to those other hot messes of performances.
I don’t know what happens between Beyonce and Jay Z these days but he looked proud of her and she deserved it.
I saw her in concert last year in Paris. She rocks on stage.
I’ve always loved Bey’s music but I never considered myself a hard core fan…..until now. I’m pretty sure my friends and I had a near religious experience watching her last night, whatever pr media control she’s spinning I’m buying LOL and then the tears, jay z and blue, Laverne Cox GETTING DOWN it was too much amazingess
That black dress is all kinds of fug. The red/maroon one is better.
About her performance, hands down the highlight of the night. She’s an amazing performer, there’s no doubt about it. But this whole thing with Jay and Blue on the stage seems like a damage control. Like she’s trying so hard to convince everyone that they’re okay, that the rumors are not true which I think is unnecessary, she should’ve just ignored it if everything is really alright.
Blue Ivy is so cute! But she didn’t need to see her momma booty shaking and spreading her legs on stage at such a young age. Lol.
+1
This! Close those legs Bey! Enough already.
I don’t know when or if they’re breaking up but I can’t help but think there isn’t anything they do that isn’t a carefully planned stunt. We all talk about the public vs private personas of all these celebs and I don’t think there’s any better example of how wide the cavern between the two can be. I just see nothing genuine about them.
I didn’t watch last night but I saw some highlights. She is an amazing performer. I’ll give her that.
All I could think during her performance was that she came on and made all the other women who performed before her look like little girls compared to her grown ass woman self.
This right here. She slayed and I very rarely use the term “slay”.
+1,000
Yep, I have to agree. Her performance was AMAZING. And I am by no means a Beyoncé fan.
Doing her new album instead of previous hits was a genious move.
Lol. Still everyone excited by a possible split. I will never understand the reasons people are so invested in their personal life but whatever.
I think she tried to cram too much into the medley. You didn’t really get a chance to get into or enjoy any of the songs because they were over before they started. Also, I preferred JT’s medley from last year, because while he gave us a bunch of his new stuff, he also gave us his “classics” which are the reason he and Beyonce are even up for a Vanguard “award” — because they’ve been making hits for a decade. I want to hear the old stuff, because I haven’t even listened to any of the songs she just sang…so it was a snooze fest for me.
Also, I know the footage of her and Jay with newborn Blue is a ploy, but it was still sweet. There’s nothing quite like a newborn baby. It’s a really special time.
And something nice…she was killing that body suit. Just killing it.
She already did a 15-minute medley of her old hits at the Superbowl Halftime show last year. It would have been redundant to put the exact same show on when everybody still remembers that.
Meh. The move with him presenting the award with the child was tacky and contrived, with or without break up scandal.
Ok, true, but I always enjoy seeing the babies.
I feel like Bey and J were paid a lot of money by MTV
She looks stressed and is finally starting to look her age. (Whatever her true age is. Lol)
That baby is adorable.
The fact they’re using their baby – again – for publicity tells you it’s over; how phony and contrived. However, they’ll probably just quietly live separate lives for a few months, let Mariah and Nick suffer the divorce heat, then issue a statement on some Friday afternoon during the holiday season in December when the news cycle can’t catch up to them.
epiphany AKA your prime PR agent.
Hey, if that’s the case, where’s my 10% commission?!?!?!?!
To everyone saying she looks tired, what did you look like last night? The woman is on the final stretch of a 7-8 mth long promotion, including tour of her album. She’s an active mother and past 30. Let’s see you get on an eliptical for 5 minutes without looking like Beyoncé after 16 min of dancing and singing! Save some of the snark sometimes, it comes off in such a bitter way.
Not a Beyonce fan yet glad you pointed that out.
Yawn.
I think it’s amazing how most people commenting here know, absolutely for sure the state of their marriage/relationship and that everything is fake and etc.
I am a big beyonce fan but even I don’t care, I don’t think divorcing him would hurt her image I think she would have many many MANY men at her door knocking, possibly richer even. And btw she is richer than him.
If they are having problems, and they are working through it, good for them I wish them the best.
And Blue Ivy is the cutest yes. How she was waving at the audience was priceless.
Awesome performance. Well deserved.
That bejeweled leotard was phenomenal.
Beyonce just seems, to me, to be a work horse. They flaunt their money but Beyonce has to go out and writhe on the stage is her weird onesies that give her the illusion of Kim K hips. Why do they need to prove anything anymore? They are established and successful and still feel the need to “prove” to us that they are perfect, or more than perfect in their personal life. Just be quiet about it, it seems they are very unhappy which is the reason they needed Blue’s birth to launch their mega-star careers. Why not just focus on their little family instead of doing world tours and elaborate award show performances?
Yeah, that is what I wondered about them. These people have been working for over 15 yrs making hits. They try so hard to punch people in the face stating they are number 1. There are number 1’s but there is no number 1. They should spend some time behind the scenes working on their craft. Jay-Z has only put out a few conscious songs and Bey has had two good albums, but nothing astounding. That was 4 and B-Day for me. They should take a few yrs off and chill. Jay-Z should retire though and come out every blue moon. I guess do 15 date tours or something, at the most.
Or, you know, maybe they can just do whatever they want, and keep on entertaining their millions of fans who love to see them perform at any given chance…
This is hilarious. I’m sorry, did you mistake her for a stay at home mom or an accountant maybe? She is an entertainer. So you know: doing world tours and elaborate award show performances is kind of her job.
Haha. Well it doesn’t have to be, they are both extremely accomplished and rich beyond anything you could imagine. They don’t need to gig or prove to the world that they are perfect. I’m just saying, if they’re having problems (which it seems they are) why not take some time to work on them instead of putting on over-the-top self congratulatory shows?
They both seem like workaholics to me, that isn’t something you can just turn off.
Performance was great, but Jay Z’s eyes looked troubled. Great family unit. Hopefully they work things out. Beyoncé is the ultimate professional…and actress,…but the eyes don’t lie.
I agree! I thought that when Beyonce said “my beloved, I love you” – the camera flashed to Jay/Blue and Jay’s eyes had the look of cringe.
Seriously? What kind of psychic magic have you got going on? There is no one anywhere that can know what someone is thinking by the look in their eye. Enjoy your delusion. Eyes most definitely do lie, all the time. ALL the time.
Both of those gowns are very unflattering on her figure, especially the black lace.
Her performance was amazing. I always wonder how other pop stars feel when they see one of their contemporaries kill it. Katy, Rihanna, Ariana, Iggy,Nikki…none of you can do what B just did. I hope they all enjoy a slice of humble pie w/ their cristal.
I agree regarding the list of names you just gave, BUT Beyonce uses the ass/stripper moves business just as much, if not more than some of the others. Beyonce is entitled to call hersel a feminist – – and I am entitled to call BS on her brand of feminism. I agree with the messages that were put up in lights behind her – but I don’t believe Beyonce lives them. She wants you to think she lives them – -and she wants to use them as a pre-emptive backstop against people calling her out for objectification.
I don’t have a problem with female performers being sexy. I have a problem with hypocrisy.
She can’t be a feminist or live her life by femanist virtues and ideals because of how she dances? I was entertained & I’m pretty sure that was the point.
Nah, I expect those ladies you mention would be too busy celebrating not having gone 6 years and 21(!) songs since they last had a number 1 single.
Why else do you think her private life is now so public? To distract people from average album sales (her single sales are catastrophic compared to a decade ago) and empty seats at concerts.
No one can stay at the height of popular taste forever. Artists fall in & out of favor. Number 1’s are great but no artist, not MJ, Madonna, or Stevie Wonder could churn out #1’s album after album. It doesn’t happen in pop music.
Beyoncé’s performance did it all for me. I hate the black dress with a passion, but she made it up with the red dress. I guess she wanted to wear a timeless dress for a timeless moment in her career. Blue Ivy is so cute, too! When Jay Z, Blue and Beyoncé were on stage together, that was definitely a low-key acknowledgement to them having issues. She cried. I cried. She thanked God. All was good.
Blue Ivy should have been in bed, not being used as a damage control prop for her parents. Waiting for the pictures and Instagrams of the family with Auntie Solange to surface.
No comment re: the marriage stuff, what their presentation last night “means” or doesn’t – – just this: You just put full frontal of your small child on a jumbo tron for millions – and the actual child on stage. Do not b*tch and moan about your kid’s privacy going forward.
And yeah, I think Blue Ivy was, to some extent, used as a prop. I get wanting your kid there for a special moment, but that was a LOT of Blue Ivy, the kid who not too long ago was only available for back-of-the-head shots.
I have no idea what’s going on in her private life, but either she’s decided on a departure from the previous We’re Super Private as a calculated business decision, or something is causing her to flail around in the Not At All Private zone.
Yeah, she’s flailing.
“Do not b*tch and moan about your kid’s privacy going forward.”
When has she ever done this? Honestly, I can’t think of a time when has Beyonce ever complained or moaned about anything period, let alone privacy. You might be thinking about Kristin Bell or another celeb that complains about privacy.
I have not reviewed every word ever uttered by Beyonce so I don’t know if she’s complained about privacy or anything at all, but please note the words “going forward.”
She said “going forward”. You could save yourself some time (and money for blood pressure medication) if you’d pay attention to what people write instead of jumping on everyone who dares to have a negative thought about the “beloved queen of the universe.”
@RosettaStoned, why so rude? Almond Joy was perfectly polite (as she always is on these boards) in her response.
Tobasco, when I read the words “going forward,” I think of something that has been done for awhile, but from here on out needs to end. I was just pointing out that privacy is something Beyonce never complains about.
RosettaStoned LOL blood pressure medication? I asked a simple question and I wasnt mad at all. It takes so much more to get me upset. Also, I have NEVER once “jumped on” someone here fir their opinions nor I view Bey as the queen of the universe.
Latisse, thank you so much for that! I really appreciate what you said 😊
It’s funny but every time BeYonCe and Jay-Z have rumors about their marriage they always have to show the world it’s the opposite. It’s too bad these two do not honor their marriage. They got married for business reason and once their contract is over it’s divorce time. They do not think how it will affect the kid(s) they just think of themselves.
I didn’t watch what came after her performance because I knew it’d be awkward, but she KILLED it. Say whatever you want about Bey, but you can’t accuse her of not working her ass off in performances. Bey always gives the show people were expecting/paid for.
I wish she would just say they’re having problems. It’s so transparent. She’s making herself look like a fool.
I love Beyonce. Her last album was flawless but she’s becoming overexposed. I’m sick of seeing her and it not just because of the marriage rumors in recent months. It’s like she never takes a break. After, her tour ends she needs to disappear for about two or three years. It wouldn’t hurt her. She has had two big world tour back to back and an a huge album. She is an amazing artist but the media praises her like she’s a God or something and it’s just ridiculous. Why did she have to bring Blue Ivy on stage? Maybe without the marriage rumors it wouldn’t look like damage control, but this sure does.
She’s been overexposed for a good two years or so now. Really needs to disappear for bit. And get a new look, for the love of pie! Ain’t gonna happen though.
Umm…I knew that she upped the sexuality but wow that was a whole lot of straight up sex thrown in our faces for 16 minutes. What happened to singing your biggest hits when receiving this award…
the part that probably upset me the most was when the screen read “feminist” and she said something along the lines of “when you were a little girl you wished you had this now bow down to me b!tch” ….yikes.
+1,000
Those dancers’ exposed butt cheeks really were unnecessary. Beyonce is a good enough performer not to stoop to this level. She really needs to class up her performances.
As for the performance itself, I always get the same vibe from, and come away with the same opinion of her performances: Excellent, but never going to be full-on “legend” level.
I’m going to use MJ as a reference. I think she wants to be considered on that level. I think MJ level requires a lot of Try but a hell of a lot more pure natural talent. I think Beyonce has plenty of natural talent and a TON of Try (I mean that in a good way – she works the *hell* out of every performance) – – but I don’t think even that level of Try can make up for the deficiency in her pure natural talent. Now, Beehivers, relax. I’m saying she has a TON of pure natural talent. I’m comparing her to MICHAEL JACKSON. To say someone is really talented, but not on tht level, is hardly an insult. It means she’s pure solid gold. But she’s not once-in-a-lifetime platinum. And pure solid gold is pretty good and a damn high level.
I feel bad for her in a way because it’s obvious she wants to be considered on that once-in-a-lifetime platinum level, but she just doesn’t have the MASSSIVE natural talent that requires. Hardly anybody does. A Beyonce performance leaves you with Excellent and Try. An MJ performance leaves you with INCREDIBLE and practically effortless. I don’t think she accepts that and it makes me feel like, girl, 0.0001% of the population has that level, you’re really talented and you’re on top of the current pack, relax!
THIS!
Also…20 years from now people will still be singing songs by MJ.
Yep. Hell, it’s already been 30 years since Thriller and you know you STILL turn up those songs when they come on the radio and car dance!
A very insightful comment there….I don’t watch much of this stuff any more but you make an important distinction between thr gold, and the rare platimum. MJ was incomparable.
I agree completely, though I do think Beyonce is the closer to legend-tier we have currently, so I’m not mad at her wanting to be there.
Yes, I agree about your comparisons. I do have to add that Michael Jackson trained for years, throughout his career, from the time he was a child into adulthood. The thing about Michael was he had the Jackson 5 and he learned to be n sync with his brothers while dancing. Then as he got older he took elements of dance from people like Fred Astaire and James Brown. Through other artists he was inspired and created something new. Beyonce is literally a copy and paste act.
She is pretty and has good stage presence (with all her facial expressions and crowd hyping abilities), but she has never took time to train as a dancer,writer, producer, and etc. These people have so much money and time, yet they can’t learn any classical dances. Ballet is one example. Michael learned to stand on his toes and Usher has learned the same. Watching the Nicki Minaj performance, I was thinking how limber and flexible her dancers were. I am not trying to make a sexual comment, but if you are a true dancer show some athleticism. Too bad they (dancers) are being wasted on Nicki with all the booty shaking. Beyonce has had dance moves with structure and weren’t copy & paste performances. EGO and SWEET DREAMS are examples. Now she is just a booty pumper. I wish she worked on her structured dances.
Michael also worked on his vocals throughout the years. Beyonce seemed to have spent some time with a vocal coach around the time B-DAY came out, but based on live vocals from the last 2 yrs she is not practicing anymore. I remember 15 yrs ago when an actress (Countess Vaughn) showed up Usher on singing. Now Usher is one of the best voices out there. I didn’t like Usher when I was young, but now I have a whole lot of respect for him as an artist.
@Sozual: Wonderful comment! I agree 1000%. I think people take for granted artists who actual practice and grow. As you stated, you CAN see the growth and development in Usher’s skills as an artist throughout his career.
I agree about the dancing. She can move, but most of what she does is booty-popping/i’m-so-sexy stuff, not really *dancing*, like say a JLo. I’m not going to even compare Beyonce to MJ in the dancing department because, NO. But I found myself throughout this watching the dancing skill and athleticism of the *backup* dancers, sort of looking past Beyonce’s kind of now-tired moves to the incredible dancers around her. The part with the two male dancers in white, one on each side of her? Those guys were *amazing*.
Beyoncé can dance. On her MTV dairy she was rehearsing for Baby Boy and she busts out some difficult moves. For ‘Why Don’t You Love Me’ she had a precise choreography which she picked up pretty fast and she worked her ass off to learn how to belly dance with Shakira. Her ‘Get me Bodied’ performance for one of her first tours shows her talent and hard work. Old footage show Bey rehearsing with her father and she was as good as any person training for years and years. She’s a jazz dancer with hip hop inspired moves just like Britney et al.
What Beyoncé does is unmatched. Even Ciara who is a great dancer cannot dance and sing at the same time because she chooses to focus on dance. Obviously, B is not going to bust out MJ or Paula Abdul moves when she is actually singing live for the majority of the time whereas MJ had to lip synch because you simply cannot do his type of choreo while singing live.
@Hiddlesgirl85 & @tabasco
Yes exactly. I just turned 31 and you know I am a music snob. I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s you know. I just think people that appreciate true art are not as obsessive about entertainers out there. Mostly kids buy music these days and us older folks stick to the music we know, cause it’s awesome. Putting in time and money into someone new takes…well time and money.
Us folks that appreciate the real thing are out there and if someone puts quality in our face, I believe we will take it. There is a diverse group of consumers out there, but entertainers/labels just want the easy consumers. You gotta put in work for me! I hope we all can work to be conscious consumers. One reason is so that these artists don’t price gouge like your Timberlake’s, Jay-Z’s, and Beyonce’s. Propping a few artists up like they are the black card of music is not healthy in multiple ways. I couldn’t believe how much money they were charging for tickets. $1,250 or more.
YES, Beyonce’s back up dancers did a great job too and were athletic also.
@Sozual
LOL. This post shows how little you know about Beyonce. She’s been training since she was little. Hardcore training. She basically had no real childhood because she was training. Her father even had summer boot camps – the girls had to sing in harmony while running for miles and doing rutines, in heels. She has trained. She paid her dues and that’s why she is where she is today. I wouldn’t compare her to MJ either but to say she hasn’t practiced, trained or nurtured her talents is just a flat out lie.
@Artemis: Hard core MJ superfan here. And well-educated on the subject. It is not at all true that MJ had to lip synch to dance. There were (*very few*) times when he did lip synch for acousics reasons – – pretty much his Super Bowl performance – – he isn’t/wasn’t ever much of lip synch-er at all. Didn’t need to – and could absolutely do his choreograhy while singing live. Most acts that incorporate heavy dance – like an MJ, Paula, JLo – do dance breaks where they’re purely in dance mode and not singing, ya know, the “break it down” section. For MJ anyway, it’s not because he can’t dance while singing. There’s loads upon loads of evidence of him doing exatly that available on YouTube.
As for what Beyonce does being unmatched, I would only agree with that statement with qualifiers. Unmatched versus all musical acts in recent history? No way. Unmatched versus current chart-toppers? I dunno, possibly. Unmatched effort/energy as compared to current contemporaries? Definitely.
I don’t think Beyonce is a crap dancer or singer – not by a long shot. I just think she *wants* to be considered on that once-in-a-lifetime talent legend level, but just isn’t.
@ Artemis @ Em
I am glad you mentioned Paula Abdul. I will add Janet Jackson, and old schoolers like the Temptations. I love choreographers like Tina London(worked for Janet), Fatima Robinson (worked for Aaliyah, the Oscars, and etc), and Paula Abdul. I am working on a non-profit organization. I have ulterior motives. It is based on health & nutrition. What is one method of being healthy…exercise. What is a seductive method of exercise…dancing. What gets you to dance…music. All of that pelvic thrusting is not burning any calories. I am a music fanatic and dance fanatic. I cited some videos of Beyonce doing good work and I also liked Get Me Bodied. She is not a jazz dancer, cause her butt would not be all over the place. This is Jazz dancing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AkY92WMAdY&list=RDRDucQwUgw8E
If she did some training for tap dance, jazz dance, ballet, gymnastics, and martial arts there would be something to talk about. We would be discussing how she incorporated those moves into a Pop sound, but she has found a shtick and she is sticking to it. Mind you Pop artists in other countries have already done this.
This to the nth degree!!
Yeah her performance was a bore for me. I have seen her do soo much better. She’s very fortunate that the rest of the performances were so sub par. Even Usher, who I usually think does amazing performances, fell flat. The whole nite was a waste.
Blue Ivy and her fabulous dress was the highlight of the show.
I think she didn’t want to do too much seeing as she has a special coming on HBO.
You’d want to do too much so people would tune into the HBO performance. Come on now. I also agree that Usher was good, but not his usually GREAT self.
I found it “boring” in the sense that it was very long and very Beyonce – like, 16 minutes of what we’ve seen a lot of from her before, no costume changes, etc.
I found him bringing up Blu Ivy in the clip very rehearsed. The baby knew to smile, and “clap for mommy” and when it was time, right after he announced her the best performer alive or whatever, he very quickly siddled left to let her have her room for her acceptance speech. I think Bey saw that it was too quick and tried to walk a bit closer to him to mitigate some of the body language
Beyonce puts herself out there through her work. They’ve been together over ten years now. Why does she have to announce that they are having problems she didn’t even announce that they were getting married. I would like to challenge anyone who’s been in a long term relationship to say that some days you want to leave and some days you want to kill them. They are no different. Last night looked like a husband there to support his wife along with their child who they do carry just about everywhere. Not grammatically correct but you get the point!
16 self-indulgent minutes?!?! Yawn.
And every puff/PR piece on every website out there is just a reminder of how aggressive her PR people are. Seriously, every time she does ANYTHING, some BS write up about how “perfect” she is at it, or how she puts everyone else to shame by doing it so “flawlessly” – does anyone really believe all the hyperbole? Girls got serious issues.
If anything, Bey showcased how crappy her record truly was, nothing stood out except her ass and her dancers asses. I know she like some other singers love saying how they wrote the songs, which if you read her songs info, she is never the main writer, she definitely needs to get some new material, if you just read her lyrics without the videos, it is worthless. Winning an MTV award is meh, used to be a fan now just sick of her pretentious attitude. How does flashing feminist in the background while pole dancing and imitating sexing on her vault dressed in a onesie show respect for women to be equal to men? I am sick of her instagram pics of Blue’s head, I get it it is your kid (for sure Jay’s) and you should shield her but SHE is posting her head, wtf is that? So why bring her out in front of thousands of people? Why keep showing clips of her in a montage. Stop using your kid as a prop. There is nothing great about her lately, her last record is all sex, all dressed in almost nothing showing us you eff your man. I am sure Blue loved watching her mama twerking on a pole, nothing says mother of the year, feminist and role model like an ass in the air. Oh and the best entertainer in the world? Why? She like the others lip synch, has crap songs and over sexualizes herself. If anything this show showed that A. sales were low and THEY created the divorce drama to up her sales and image &/or they need to show unity till their HBO special
I agree with a lot of this.
I Also felt that the material in her performance may not have been suitable for Blue Ivy to see? Maybe that’s just me and my “clutch the pearls” parenting mentality.
You thought it was unsuitable for Blue Ivy to see her mother being honored for her achievements, cheered on by thousands while doing wonderfully the thing she loves the most — performing?
Personally I would have loved to have seen my mother in that light as a child. Beyonce is an inspiration. I say that with absolutely no snark or sarcasm. She has managed to stay relevant and successful, in an industry that chews up performers and spits them out, for almost two decades now.
I’m not claiming to be an authority on anything, but if you ask me: that’s a mother worth looking up to.
A 3 year old watching her mother surrounded by asses, imitating how she effs Jay, yeah that is something to be proud of.
I recall Withney Houston pre drugs, her performances were legendary, her voice was all she needed and she was something beautiful.
Maybe they shouldhave brought Ivy out after the x rated performance.
@Fee
“nothing says mother of the year, feminist and role model like an ass in the air.”
LMAO!
I have to quote it one more time.
LIKE AN ASS IN THE AIR
Too funny!
Also, whoever started pushing or came up with the “clutch the pearls” saying is amazing.
TY, lol, it is funny now that I re-read, I believe I will be using it too, like an ass in the air!!!!!!
@FEE
So true!
Beyawnzze is a sad reminder how cheap music has become.
@ Fee
I cosign!
She killed it. That’s all.
Is the “it” she killed Good Taste? Art?
Lol!
She is a mistress of PR for sure. Nice thing–that is one sweet little girl.
As usual, people who don’t like her watch the performance and come out to say just how much they don’t like her and how fake she is.
She killed it. She’s worked her ass off to get to this point in her career, there’s no denying that. She deserves all the success she’s getting.
I don’t really like Katy Perry but I can’t be bothered to comment on every article that comes out about her just to trash her and let everyone know that “I’m not buying it”. You don’t have to be a fan of Beyonce’s but millions of people are, so, you know…deal with it.
And I will never understand the obsession over the possible demise of her marriage. Does it please you or something? If it’s ending and they wanna pretend like it’s not, well that’s their prerogative.
Like I’m genuinely curious as to why some people hate her so much. Let her be.
Who are all these millions of people. She may have a million.
There does seem to be a double standard at work. Let’s leave it at that.
I don’t think people really hate her. They don’t know her. I think they get sick of her because they aren’t fans and she’s pushed in their faces on every entertainment site.
I’m no fan of B, but I can see she works hard. I give her kudos for working hard, but I don’t care to see them at the White House for dinner. I don’t beleive she’s a great role model for young girls. I don’t think she is particularly talented. I don’t wish for any family to break up and I hope that doesn’t happen. But you have to admit, that all the fakeness that comes our way, leaves us suspect and cynical. Who knows what’s real or fake with them. The fact is, I couldn’t care less about their personal lives. I listen to music because I like music. I watch music videos because if their good dancers too, it’s entertaining. I don’t want to see people trying to show me what a fairy tale life they live behind the curtain. It’s vain, narcissistic and almost always not true or they wouldn’t feel the need to show me otherwise. It’s usually the more private people who actually have good marriages and truly good lives. We just don’t see it because they feel no need to share it.
I wish I was as enthusiastic about B as the rest of the world seems to be, but I’m just not feeling it. When people are all like, “she flipped her hair”, “she did a medley”, “she sang and danced”, I’m like “ain’t that her job?” IMO, she isn’t doing anything performers before her haven’t done. I do believe she works harder than other pop stars, so kudos for that.
I agree with you completely. And even, I’ll admit she works hard to preserve her brand and to get it out there. Sadly, regardless of how cohesive JZ and Beyonce present themselves onstage as a unit, I think they will quietly split and go their separate ways as soon as that tour is completely over and done with.
I have no issue with Beyonce – she’s talented and has worked her butt off to be where she is. I’m not a huge fan of her music, but that’s just me.
What I can’t stand are the people who worship her like she’s the second coming or something and the media that perpetuates it. Get a grip.
I don’t think people ‘worship’ her they are just extreme fans that gets too defensive when she’s criticized, many other actors and entertainers have them.
My perception of Beyonce is that she’s one of those people that never feels like they have “made it” no matter how successful they are and are afraid it will all come tumbling down if they take a break. I have a few friends like this and they are obsessed with work and image, and it’s sort of sad they can’t take a breath and enjoy their success.
I read her emotion and Blue’s presence as having to do with the honor of winning the award of the night. But it did feel like a goodbye in regards to Jay IMO, and I wondered if that added to her tears. She may be calculated and controlling of her image, but she’s still human.
Haters will always hates
I don’t see how it’s cool to bring your little kid out on stage for any reason. It doesn’t matter what the event is, what the reason, great cause, no cause, no matter…you should not drag your kids into the spotlight. It’s just a way to emotionally manipulate the audience and it never works in favor of the child. I know I know, she’s just little and seemed to enjoy it….this time. That doesn’t make it any less manipulative. It also doesn’t mean BIC will appreciate it in the future. It’s not cool.
Beyonce did it for the same reason that Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie put their kids in movies and had her son there when she was got the award for her humanitarian work or Roger Federer wanted his twins daughters around when he was about to break records, they when their children to be apart of when for them are both public and personal achievement.
She was receiving a lifetime achievement award and wanted her daughter to be there, while Blue may not remember there will always be video of the moment to look back on
Agree! It’s not like Blue was a part of the performance!
+ 1! good point 🙂 similar to beckham bringing his sons up to stage when accepting awards!
mmmmm are you sure Beyonce’s mom isn’t designing her clothes again?
I remember when R.E.M. got the Video Vanguard Award in 1995. Good times. Better times for the music industry, certainly.
Shouldn’t they maybe show VIDEOS from Beyonce when she’s receiving a video vanguard award? I’m not gonna moan about MTV never playing videos, but at the VIDEO Music Awards, you’d think you’d see a few clips at the very least. Even when they did the nominations – they just sped through and didn’t even show small bits of those. the whole night was weird.
Beyonce was on tooooo long and I hate the new album songs, so it was painful and I couldn’t FF watching in real time. I think she’s a good performer and has some great songs, but these are not it. And my god – at one point I thought it was like a bad porn music video with the crotches aimed at the camera in unison. Really tacky.
Am I the only one who hated her performance? The music sucked. I thought she was going to sing some of her old songs and maybe Destiny’s Child was going to make an appearance. I’ve never really been a fan of her solo career. She scream/sings too much, and it seems to be a trend with other artists. It’s like fingernails against a chalk board for me ugh. She needs to put some pants on. I absolutely hate her onsies. Her performance seem to go on forever! Which is funny because when JT performed last year, his performance went on long too but he was giving such a good show it seemed to go by fast.