Yay! The rumors were rumoring for a reason! Duchess Kate and Prince William are officially expecting their second child, less than 14 months after Kate gave birth to the heir to the crown, HRH Prince George. And much like her first pregnancy, Kate is already experiencing some complications in the first trimester – she’s being treated for extreme morning sickness, although this time she hasn’t checked into a hospital. She’s staying at Kensington Palace and the doctors are coming to her.
There’s another royal baby on the way! Princess Kate is expecting her second child.
“Their Royal Highnesses The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are very pleased to announce that The Duchess of Cambridge is expecting their second child,” said the official announcement Monday morning.
“The Queen and members of both families are delighted with the news.”
The statement continued: “As with her first pregnancy, The Duchess is suffering from Hyperemesis Gravidarum. Her Royal Highness will no longer accompany The Duke of Cambridge on their planned engagement in Oxford today.
“The Duchess is being treated by doctors at Kensington Palace.”
Kate and Prince William, both 32, welcomed son George in July 2013, and from the moment he was born, the third in line to the throne has captivated royal-watchers around the world. From his first play date to learning how to walk, the red-headed toddler – who William calls “a little rascal” – has kept his proud parents on their toes.
As for the arrival of his sibling, Kate is believed to be fewer than three months pregnant.
When she was carrying Prince George, she was admitted to the hospital suffering from the same illness before she was eight weeks along.
Monday’s announcement came, in part, as a result of her having to pull out of that day’s appearance in Oxford with William Monday. The Palace is now reviewing her upcoming engagements, including her two-day visit to Malta scheduled for later this month. She was also due to join William at brother-in-law Prince Harry’s Invictus Games later this week.
I’m surprised they’ve only canceled one event thus far. The other day, I was actually wondering (to myself) if Kate was going to end up canceling her first solo overseas trip (the Malta trip), just because it really didn’t seem like something she wanted to do. The palace is probably playing it by ear, seeing if she starts feeling better under doctors’ care, and if they cancel, it will be closer to the date of the trip.
So… if she’s only a few months along, that means her due date would be… April? A royal Aries baby?! Also: I really, really hope this one is a girl. They always say that William wants a daughter.
Photos courtesy WENN.
Well…it’s not like there’s anything else interesting about her. Congrats, best wishes for a healthy baby….and yawn.
exactly…
She’s so uninteresting that you took the time to click on the article, compose a response and hit “submit comment.”
If you don’t care, fine. But when you invest time in making a point to let everyone know, “I DON’T CARE,” you kinda do.
I believe you misread. The commenter said it’s the only interesting thing Kate has done, not that she didn’t care. Chill.
The point @Countess is that it should be interesting. I’m anti-monarchy but Queen Elizabeth is a fascinating woman. The system from a sociological standpoint is fascinating and the media keeps telling us to be interested. However this woman is an insufferable, and apparently lazy, bore. The only interesting thing about her is popping out heirs. Again…Yawn.
Congratulaions to the happy couple. Kate is excellent at dealing with the media frenzies. Gracefully handling the pressures of being under a magnifying glass. She is a naturally beautiful person from the inside out.
Amen, I think they are so cute.
I agree.
She’s supposed to provide future royals, so congratulations!
Besides, George needs a sibling. Badly. Learning how to share and all that. Plus William and Harry are so close I would expect William to want a buddy for Georgie. It would be pretty lonely as a singleton.
You don’t need a sibling to learn how to share.
@sigh((s)), so true. I have sibling 17 months younger than me and I am awful at sharing. My husband was mostly an only child (occasional step sibling cohabitation, but not much) and he is very giving.
We have all been predicting that she will be pregnant soon to avoid any more Royal work as George moves out of his baby stage and like clockwork boom it happened.
Maybe she and William really do want a second child. Is that so hard to understand?
YES, of course! She only got pregnant to get out of work! Carrying a child to term and caring for it for 18+ years is so much less work than going to a handful of royal PR functions. You are right, there is NO WAY that she is having this kid because she wants siblings for her first child, or because she wants to expand her family. No, no, no. It must purely be motivated to use pregnancy as a “get out of work” pass.
Isn’t a Royal wife’s “work” to provide babies? What work has ever been expected from Royals throughout history. They are just expected to be royal. Not sure why she gets such a hard time about it. I think it must be because at one time she was a commoner. She gets the jealousy anger.
So true idsmith, I agree.
@Tiffany
I am going by Kate’s past behavior. If Royal work was so easy for her compared to taking care of a kid with an army of nannies, chefs, Housemaids, personal assistants, her mother and millions of free money, houses, food and clothes why can’t she do even 30% of what is expected in terms of charity work. Other Royal women with children manage to do that all the time.
My mom has a frenemie who had children to avoid work. Whenever her husband started harranguing her to find a job because the kids were grown enough not to need her home full-time, she got pregnant and the pressure to work went away. If you wonder how she avoided work by becoming a mother. She wasn’t a very good one. She was more interested in her clothes, hair, shopping and lunching than doing the daily grind of raising a child well. My mom even went shopping with her once and forty-five minutes after her daughter got out of school this lady still wanted to shop rather than drive to the school to pick up her daughter. given that they were forty minutes from the school, my mom insisted they go because the secretary would be off work and leaving soon. The difference between this lady and Kate is Kate has a full-time nanny to take care of her child while she’s on the Kings Road at Zara. So, it can happen. A woman can have a child to continue with her hair appointments, shopping trips, and lunches. Kate so reminds me of this woman my mom knows (who I won’t embarrass by naming publicly).
As for Kate working hard and taking time off for a baby. When did Kate ever work hard? Her first year that she was supposed to use to ease into her role, she made a couple of appearances and chose six charities after months of considering her options. One year spread into two years and just as people were really losing patience with her, she gets pregnant. No problem. Pregnancy is part of her job but she avoids a lot of the hard work because she has HG. Again, no problem except she manages to find the energy for shopping, sporting events, luxury overseas vacations and weddings. Basically, all of the fun parts of her job while her charities and the “boring” stuff languishes.
Then, Kate takes a year off for maternity leave. More lightweight work for a year. Now, we’re starting the fourth year and wham! just as Kate is expected to get to work full-time, the palace announces she and William will be hiding out at Anmer for the next two years, instead of taking on full-time duties in London like promised, and guess what again, Mrs. Wales pregnant with HG. Two more years of lightweight duty for little miss while she has the HG and the baby and takes another year long maternity leave from her barely existent job. (I’m skeptical she actually has HG but that’s another post related to this one.)
Before I run out of breath, anyone want to take bets that Kate will get pregnant and have more HG just as she is expected to go back to work after the birth of this latest child? By the time she is done with that baby, provided she doesn’t have anymore, Kate will be eight years into her marriage and still no full-time duchess. Just a woman who feels too sick to do the heavy lifting in the public appearance department but isn’t too sick for the fun parts of being the same future king’s wife.
Taken together the whole thing looks like avoiding the boring aspect of being a royal and doing 300 public appearances a year, not all of which will be sporting events and movie premieres, which she would attend even if she weren’t married to William.
Excuses, excuses, excuses at this point Mrs. Wales.
Notasugar LAK MIA4
+1B
Waity workless doolittle is just undernourished anorexic hence her child bearing is rough. And the waybaby PG was underfed brestfeeding. So Waity has morning sickness like us Regular folks (like she is!) Docs pretend to be more for Doolittle now Waity married Title).
This grandstanding of HG (undermining women with the real HG illness) then magically Waity can be on more expensive vAcations, (way overdue from ‘vacation in UK this summer!”). To shopping. She must be held up in ma corella buckleberry again.
Articles keep saying King Harry (PH) is bumbed when in actuality King Harry who will do a wonderfil Invictus Games, is next in line to Willnot if not POW, until PGTips become 20+ uncle Harry rules.
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Maybe I’m not that up to date with royalty acronyms, but I really don’t understand what you are saying here?
What theeee hell?
You’ve got quite a nasty streak. How do you know that she’s “faking it”? Are you her doctor?
@Pippa M..
That’s a good question. I wonder if she’s really at KP or back at Bucklebury with mom. I also wonder how long she will stay hidden.
Pippa M
I only turn into a Kate defender when people stray from facts and seem to attack her on level different ffrom criticism to her work behavior/schedule/spending.
I’m not censoring you. Only saying it takes away from me finding your comments credible and fact based when “waity”, “dolittles”, etc… get tossed around.
Speaking for myself only I stop reading because the comment seems very hate-based. It reminds me of past Royal blogs that got very mean and nothing Kate did was seen in a positive light. I don’t want this site to turn into that.
Sorry if this sounds offensive. Really trying to phrase it to not be.
FLORC, good points fairly made. I agree.
Thanks for this, Florc. I get out off by all the name calling too. Think what you want of her, but do we need to sound like we’re running around the schoolyard pulling each other’s braids?
I like to read the stories about her, but I haven’t made my mind up one way or the other. As people like to say on here, I don’t have a horse in this race. 🙂
As far as the baby goes, I’m happy for them. I’ve read that they want at least 3 closely-spaced children, so I figured we’d be hearing news soon. Couples often decide to try to model the # and spacing of children after their own nuclear families. And I’m with you, Kaiser–a girl this time would be wonderful! But I’m biased; I had a boy first, then a girl, and I’m loving watching my son grow into a caring & loving older brother.
Lahdidahbaby and Petrichor
Thanks! I really thought my comment and opinion might be poorly received.
Petrichor
Not all you read is on the level. That 3 baby article goes directly against what William has stated numerous times saying he only wants 2 children (heir and spare, no more). And there was no speaking for William in it or direct quotes. Just a puff piece. These threads get fun when it’s about sifting through history of real articles and fake pr. How history is rewritten and such. In fact, it’s my opinion that these threads are the best when we drift off of Kate ad on to other royalty both current and past, and their politics.
I agree, Florc. I love it when these threads digress into history. I find it fascinating, and I always learn so much,
Re the 3 kid thing, I don’t have a clue where I even heard it. Probably in the comments on here! Lol But as I said above, I think couples often model the makeup of their families after the way they grew up (or wish they had). My sibling and I are 4 years apart and fought until we were adults (and occasionally still do lol). Meanwhile, all my friends growing up who had less than a 3 year gap between them & siblings were all really close with them. Hence my decision to space my children more closely together, 2.5 years.
Since Will & Kate both have siblings close in age to them who they appear to have good relationships with, I don’t have a hard time believing they would want their kids close in age too. Same with #s. Kate is one of 3, so I find it feasible that that could be a number she has in her head. But, I’m also swayed by the argument we often see on here that goes something like, “William gets what William wants.” 🙂
If she actually was anorexic then she wouldn’t be able to conceive. Log off, Pippa. You’re drunk.
The daily mail said the Malta trip will be decided on later. And that she’s less than 12 weeks, so it could be a May baby
Anyways, I know they get a lot of hate here. But congrats to them. I hope they have a girl purely for baby fashion reasons.
I hope they have a girl, too, and I’m happy for them. They seem to love being parents. I’m bracing myself for how she’s “using” this to get out of work, though, as if a pregnant woman shouldn’t care about her baby’s health. It’s tiresome. But congratulations!
GoodNames
To be fair this is established behavior at this point. Not that Kate will use her pregnancy to get out of her duties. Just that her work related events are often cancelled citing various convenient reasons. It’s likely her cancellations will be legitimate, but at the rate and frequency she’s cancelled before it just fits this will happen.
It’s a case of crying wold imo.
I’m a card carrying member of the ‘she uses her baby to get out of work’.
Long before PGtips was a possibility, about a year after the wedding to be exact, I predicted that she would have the heir and the spare (plus any other number of children she decides to have) and use her children as the get out of work excuse.
I also said that each pregnancy would be timed just when the calls for work were becoming louder.
She’ll never put in a good showing as far as work is concerned until the last child is in boarding school at 8yrs of age.
And by them, we’ll be so used to her non-work that we probably won’t notice it at all.
And lo and behold…….
@ LAK – Today, I’m a card-carrying member of the referendum conspiracy. I think they bumped up this announcement by a couple of weeks to try to get Scottish independence off the front pages. British media is in a meltdown today. Otherwise, I agree.
Sixer: I quite agree. I’m on the referendum conspiracy too, specifically to remove that particular wrinkle from front line news.
Exactly.
(I can’t type much; I’m supposed to be working and have BBC News 24 on in the background. With this coverage, I’m going to spend most of the afternoon using my own emesis basin. D’you think Kate has a nice stock of spares she could lend me?!)
(ETA: freakin’ Ada, they’re even laying the ground for a cancelling of Malta on Kate’s behalf. Sigh @ BBC).
I don’t normally comment on posts about Kate truthfully speaking she just doesn’t interest me. That being said I had to chime in to say I agree with you ladies about the “get out of my royal duties” game she is playing. She’s already letting it be known that she is once again suffering from severe morning sickness. The I can hardly get out of bed kind. I know some women do suffer from unbearable MS but come on Kate, were not all buying what you’re selling.
@LAK & Sixer – Those are interesting scenarios. I think there is probably truth to the “get out of work” excuse. My big problem is that this excuse will undoubtedly spillover into Will’s workload. You know, he will be comforting Kate and being there for support. It’s all about family, except on hunting trips with an ex-gf, or partying it up at a close friend’s American wedding. You know, the important stuff.
“I also said that each pregnancy would be timed just when the calls for work were becoming louder.”
WHAT?
14 months is a VERY common time for women to have a 2nd child. When a woman is in her 30s, it can’t be guaranteed that getting pregnant will be easy.
Many women breast feed for a year. The 1st three months after breast feeding stops is when a woman is most fertile (or the 3 months after she gives birth if she doesn’t breast feed). So 12 months of breast feeding + 1 to 3 months of super fertile time = 13-15 months after 1st child is born is ideal time to conceive 2nd kid.
Tiffany
Your points are valid, but do not discredit the other theory. If nothing else it could have just been a happy coincidence Scotland makes noise to cut ties.
I hope they do not have a girl, because that child would never escape the specter of Diana.
GNAT, she clearly uses pregnancy and “caring for the baby full time” as excuses not to work. Has been shown time and again. Why would you think it tiresome when her own behavior brings on the criticism?
Got to disagree with you on this one. Diana’s star has faded a great deal since her death; I find she’s much less present in the European and US media than one might expect, although I can’t speak for the UK. The younger royals have really taken her place.
My daughter was born in 2003, and I don’t think she has any idea who Diana is – although she could easily identify all four Beatles, Elvis, Michael Jackson and Marilyn Monroe without a hitch. I just don’t think Diana’s iconic status has outlived her.
I think if they had a girl, it would all be brought up again, just as it will be when Charles takes the throne. There will be something big around the 20th anniversary of her death in a few years, which would only be heightened if W&K end up with a blond daughter.
@notsugar
Because I think ALL mothers, including her, should spend as much time as they can with their infants. I don’t see that as “getting out of work.” I see it as taking care of your child. I know a lot of women can’t afford to do it financially or career-wise, but if you can, I think you should be supported, not criticized. Maybe it’s because I worked in law firms for 25 years and I saw such competition among the women over who came back the soonest, even though they had paid leave. It was all macho – “I came back in two days!” “Well, I was negotiating a deal while giving birth!” That just doesn’t impress me. I think our society should be more supportive of women taking time off with their children, not less.
Look, I get that not much is required of her, and she barely does that. But I think it’s completely unfair to say any woman has children to get out of work, especially when she is so obviously crazy about being a mother. I think she is having children because she wants children, and that canceling an engagement because you’re hurling your guts out is reasonable. And limiting your engagements when you have young children is reasonable.
It’s just like all of the people who are suddenly doctors on here saying she’s not really sick. Just because people don’t like her, they make accusations about her that I find ridiculously biased and unfair. You can’t say anything nice about her on this site without being “corrected.” That’s tiresome to me. Not that people don’t have the right to feel and say negative things about her, and there are certainly many legitimate criticisms of her, but any even slightly nice thing you say about her is shot down like it’s a fact that she’s pure evil. Every time I comment on a Kate thread, I say to myself that it’s not worth it. Maybe I’ll listen to myself one of these days.
+1 GNAT, I agree with what you’ve said 100%. You always say what I’m thinking, but much more eloquently. Please keep commenting!
I am a working mother. I stayed home with my children for the first years and was very happy to do so,but when I had a chance to go back to a job I loved I jumped at it. I have a lot of friends from my sahm days who are still home and are happy to be there. To each his own. Stay at home moms do not deserve to be shamed or shaded, just as women who work don’t deserve it. If the job I took had been something less important to me, I might have stayed home (economic difficulties and all)) for much longer. At the end of life I’ll never regret having spent MORE time with my kids.
GNAT-
I completely agree. It’s just more mother shaming with an added touch of royal shaming.
GNAT … +1,000
You nailed it.
Seriously, fourth try at this.
@respect. I agree with everything you typed. Problem is, she isn’t a sahm she is masquerading as one. That’s offensive to sahm and parents who work outside the home.
@GNAT
The facts of her behavior during the previous pregnancy do not mesh with HG. Everyday morning sickness and norovirus, but not HG.
You’re forgetting that she doesn’t spend as much time as she can with PGTips. She is constantly photographed and caught on twitter shopping, at hair appointments, shopping. She took a cooking class and flying classes. She is not a full time stay at home mother. They have multiple staff taking care of everything – including multiple staff taking care of the baby. Does she spend time with him, sure. Is she with him 24/7/365 as you seem to believe? Not by a long shot.
She has time to do those things, to dump him for 2 weeks on the nanny, to dump him for 10 days to go to the Maldives. But she doesn’t have time to work? The excuse – give by their official mouthpiece – is that she cannot work more because she is a full-time stay at home mother. The facts disprove that. If she can spend hours every week getting blowouts and shopping, she can spend 1 hour a week working. Smoke and mirrors, some can see through them, other cannot.
GNAT,
I would agree normally with what you said here, but I can’t regarding Kate. No woman should be criticized for wanting to spend time with her children. The thing is, Kate has done nothing to give any impression that she spends a significant amount of time with her children. She spends less than most people. He is only 14 months old and she has spent several full weeks away from him. I am not here to criticize her parenting, and as an American I have no cares about how much work she does/doesn’t do. Basically, though the sentiment you expressed applies to almost all mothers, Kate is an exception.
NotaSug
+1
hope its not a girl.
As a working mother its hard to tolerate been raised by a workless Waity Doolittle ma caroela muddletons.
Doolittle as a representative to a dynamic QE2 (r models QMary and QE) for Doolittle caroela muddletons upbringing – where scheming entitled to taxpayerd and royal funds and yet workless, unregal and giving back yet a member of BRs for UK GB Commonwealth. To speak nothing of unregal dress lack of style- yuk!
@notsugar, @Stephanie, @Pippa M
Do you guys realize you just jumped in and immediately “corrected” GNAT? The exact thing that she was commenting about with the tone of the Kate posts.
@notsugar
I typed a long, (apparently too long) response to your statement and it was deleted. I thought it was polite, so it must have been the length. I don’t have the time, energy or interest to recreate it. You’re entitled to your opinion, but your opinion isn’t fact. I do wish you, and several others I could name, would stop acting as if it were. It takes the fun out of the debate.
We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
@Bridget
Thank you.
To imagine Kate as the poster girl for mothers is the height of absurdity, I think. Given her lifestyle and behaviour, she’s nowhere near in the same league, IMO, as hardworking moms of all stripes. Quite the come down, in fact. I don’t understand why anyone would choose to use her as a role model or place her in the same pantheon. SMH.
I don’t know why, but it has eaten several replies today GNAT. Not sure if it is length related, or if we’re all just keeping the computer server really busy.
We’re expressing opinions here Bridget, opinions only. Each individual believes in their opinion, that’s why they’re expressing it I’d suspect. Agree or disagree, that’s why we’re all here. If you cannot understand that, I’m not sure why you’re here or why you’re complaining about people expressing opinions.
GNAT, I agree completely. She and George are clearly very well bonded. The fact that she takes some time for herself (for shopping or cooking classes or whatever) does not in any way prove or even suggest that she is not a good SAHM.
I feel for her regarding her hyperemesis and completely understand why that would lead her to cancel engagements. It’s not a normal job – if she was photographed running off with her hand over her mouth retching, the media would be vicious and that pic would be viral in seconds. I would be in complete seclusion if that was me. I had HG with my second pregnancy and it would be completely unpredictable. I once threw up on the sidewalk at the farmer’s market!
THe commentaryisn’t on people having a differ in opinion, rather than the need on these posts for individuals to be “corrected. There’s an inability of those who dislike Kate to just let things lie – rather, everyone needs to be told how they’re wrong and how she’s awful. There’s no real discussion happening anymore, its just relentless negativity.
Do you all have webcams set up in their house?
Cause a lot of people seem to know for sure that Kate just passes George off to nannies all day and night
Having help doesn’t mean that she isn’t a very hands on and involved mother
“Having help doesn’t mean that she isn’t a very hands on and involved mother ” I think this was what many people had said (me included) a few posts ago. She isn’t a regular sahm, but that doesn’t mean she isn’t engaging with him when she is with him.
The ongoing point being, her being a “sahm” is given as the reason that she has no time to work. When she is caught spending hours every day outside of the home – “taking some time for herself” – it puts a lie to the notion that she doesn’t have time for an hour or so of work per week.
GoodNames
It’s not mother shaming. Or at least it’s not my intent to shame her as a mother for cancelling work to be with her child(ren).
That said this is a line to me. She’s taken time off and cancelled much to be with George. Then we find out she’s hardly around George and instead has the nannies take the bulk of his waking time. If she could find hours a day for working out, beauty trips, and shopping away from George (nearly daily) couldn’t she find the time to keep an engagement or 2? And if she was actually spending even half this time with him it would be better. Private time and not engagements with George for photos. Mom’s need that time away for themselves. I get it. Her case is different. Security, spending, and neglecting duties all while not doing the very reasonable reason for cancellations.
It’s not mother shaming. It’s calling out the dishonest behavior. And this irks me from a press standpoint. How the truth gets twisted around. Photos are banned and info that is truth cannot be printed to uphold another image. The press are simple enablers imo.
@ GNAT I agree with you completely. Bridget is also right about the negativity here. No real discussions happening any more. That happens when people claim, they are just “expressing opinions”. But these “opinions” can be quite revealing about the people themselves.
@GoodNames,
I agree with your comments. It was nice to read something that I actually agree with without having to take the time to type it out. Also, I don’t think Duchess Kate is going to engender much support simply because many don’t like her, some with very valid reasoning. I just think the rational statement that you made will be overlooked/argued over ad infinitum for reasons other than the logic of it, i.e., she isn’t well liked on this site. My point being that like or not (for valid reasons or otherwise) doesn’t change the fact that …..basically, what you said 🙂
All sahm moms shop, get their hair done, run errands, visit their friends, etc., without their kids in tow 100% of the time. Kate is in the fortunate position of not having to call around for a sitter when she wants to go out with George, but suggesting that she isn’t a “real” sahm because she isn’t with him 24/7 seems like a stretch.
It’s interesting that Kate get’s a pass on not working, but Kim K doesn’t get a pass on actually doing her job. Kim K is a TV personality whose monetary flow is based on keeping herself in the public eye. As annoying as the hosting gigs, red carpets, and endless array of selfies are, she gets paid for some of these and they lead to future profits. It’s her business. She is her brand. The only difference between Kim and Kate is that we can see Kim doing her work, thus we have the opportunity to see her without her child, which gives us the impression that she spends less time with her child. ****In reality, Kim K and Kate could spend equal amounts of time with (or without) their children.**** Just because we don’t see Kate (thanks to more control over the press as well) doesn’t mean we can definitely say one way or the other that she’s with George. I guess Kate leaves more room for credit since she’s more private, but it’s no mystery that she’s workshy. Yes, Kim seems to spend more time away from her child than would be my personal preference, but at the same time I assume she has a crazy schedule some days. My overall point is, I don’t understand why it’s upsetting that people think Kate uses motherhood as an excuse to get out of work, but calling North an “accessory” is acceptable.
Bravo, Goodnames! Saved me from having to say it, & you said it better than I would’ve. Great, welcome, & much-needed post, IMO.
GNAT: Standing ovation. I get sick of the ‘experts’ too.
Megan: THANK YOU, I agree with you. Kate always has child care, that’s the difference. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t adore her boy, it means that running errands/shopping with a robust toddler in tow is not convenient for ANY mom. And the kids aren’t too into either, usually.
Kate can ‘afford’ her babysitter, so what? Lots of ‘normal’ women can too, or use their relatives for free. It doesn’t mean they don’t love their kids as much (?!) .
So much mommy-shaming, so unfair. If I were Kate, I’d have to either avoid all media, or need therapy every darn day.
I agree with you, GNAT, for what it’s worth.
I’m privileged to live in a country and work in a profession that enables my husband and I to make full use of our 52-weeks allowable parental leave. When our first was born I took 44 and my husband took 8 plus his 2 vacation weeks. We took the time concurrently, with my husband starting his right after the birth. I was then lucky enough to be able to use accrued vacation time to take another 2 months off. So my son was about 14-months when we first put him in daycare. Now, with my second, I took 38 and hubs took 15, again concurrent. Like I said, I realize that not everyone’s in our position, but I will fight anyone, mma-style to protect the rights of parents in my country to take the time they are legally allowed.
If you ask me, the real shame is that only about 14% of fathers here use any portion of their parental leave benefits.
S
George has bonded better than we realized with his nannies also. I think he’s just a happy boy. All the cuteness he showed with Kate he showed with his nanny. We only saw this because the George with nanny photos were recently allowed.
HH
Get out of here with your logic! For KimK’s horrible fashion and wretched mother she does work for her money. That’s a big part why I let off of her. Nori is aware it’s her mother. She’s got a cute little face. I screamed my head off like my parents were abusive as an infant, but they were loving. I was just a noisy baby.
The rest. It seems there’s no middle ground. You either defend Kate all the way or you criticize all the way. You can’t say she’s a good aristo style mom. 1 who has loads of help and sees the baby when she’s ready while retail therapy and beauty regimen takes up the bulk of the day. That’s mother shaming I guess.
I didn’t say Kate didn’t love and adore her son. More that he’s a reason to avoid work, but she finds many reasons daily to not be around him. Since that’s the reason she cancelled events it makes little sense.
Shame we’ve gone off balanced here.
@FLORC – LOL! I just don’t understand why it’s crazy and/or disrespectful to say that Kate uses pregnancy to put off increasing her (and therefore William’s) workload, but it’s okay to say that Kim K has no connection or love for her child beyond that of an addition to her outfit and PR image………….????? Let me be clear, I’m not stating that Kate ONLY has children for the sake of putting off royal duties, but I think she and Will consider it a VERY beneficial byproduct.
I am 13 weeks along and due on the m iddle of March. So the baby might be a March/ April/ even May baby.
@Bridget,
Corrected? We are talking about a difference in opinions. There is no right or wrong with opinions. I disagreed with GNAT. I didn’t attempt to correct her.
I think Bridget is referring to people on here always responding to positive remarks about Kate with an attitude of condescension and that their opinion is fact. I don’t think that was particularly true in your case, but it is in others. I don’t mind someone saying “I do not believe Kate had HV.” What I DO mind is someone saying “Kate did not have HV because she got well in two weeks.” See the difference? Neither of us knows whether she had it or not, or what her true feelings are about work or why she wears so much eyeliner. We’re all speculating and that’s fun. We’re all entitled to our opinions. But I’ve noticed on the BRF threads that any time I say anything, even times when I’m negative about her, there’s a group of people who say, no that’s incorrect. It is well established that Kate despises broccoli because she was forced to eat it as a child. And there’s this sort of “well, believe that if you like, you stupid idiot, but it’s not true” attitude that I don’t find on other threads. Anyway, I’ve monopolized the conversation for long enough, so I’ll just attempt to shut it now. Thanks for listening.
GNAT,
I agree with you about people diagnosing her. I get nauseaus for a day with my monthly. That is more than enough for me. I can’t imagine months on end of it. I believe it is a great reason to cancel engagements. I am not a Kate hater or sympathizer (sp?) here. I just find the gossip fun. I am also not accusing her of having children to avoid royal work. It does seem to me to be an added bonus and a convenient excuse to cancel more engagements that don’t suit her/his/BRF agendas.
Anywho, I read your comments all the time. I hope I didn’t discourage you from continuing to do so.
Stephanie
I must also put up my hand on this, and agree that the usual tenor on BRF chats is very much one of ‘opinion’ swiftly countered by stern ‘facts.’ Of course this doesn’t apply universally, but one shows any support of the majority of the royals with great trepidation!
My first foray on CB was a thread like this, and someone (GNAT?) sardonically said, when saying something uncontroversial, that she would surely be ‘schooled’ if she were in error. Damn me, within 5 minutes there was chapter and verse from many, ‘proving’ that (eg) that earring was in FACT worn on a TUESDAY. Deadly serious stuff, and quite impervious to levity, let alone frivolity.
Jolly interesting chats nevertheless, but the bolts of solemnity can get wearisome. 🙁
@Stephanie – it was more about the fact that GNAT was talking about the tone of these threads on Kate (which I agreed with) and was immediately responded with more of that negative, corrective tone.
Obviously, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I have no problem with some fun snark (seriously, if you have nothing nice to say… come sit by me and we’ll make fun of everyone). Yet the tone of the Kate stuff has taken on a different tone altogether – almost overwhelmingly negative and more than a bit pedantic. If you say something positive you’re immediately replied with how you’re wrong, with plenty of “proof” cited. You know it’s bad when a poster interjects a differing opinion and someone will actually reply that the subject had actually been covered before and that you needed to just go back at old Kate threads to read the comments there to have it explained to you. Plus it’s just getting downright mean. It’s as though some people have simply lost the ability to just *not* post, that they *have* to correct people with a differing viewpoint.
Chris: I think that was me. 🙂
I wish people would just accept that other people have differing opinions, talk about them, and not take it all so personally.
So unsurprised by this. Kate is playing it by the book re: heirs and spares. Betting on another boy!
What can I say – it is great that the nature allows them to play by the book.
lol. exactly splinter.
It’s a win either way: if she has a boy, their fam pic would be reminiscent of Diana (will and harry), and if a girl, still so cute – CONGRATS!!
Yep. Securing that line. Afterall, it’s her biggest responsibility on the job, and the only one she seems to accept somewhat happily.
They’re a young couple that want children. Why does it have to be a conspiracy to not work, in your mind?
Congratulations to the couple. hopefully she has an easier pregnancy this time.
Congratulations. I hope she feels better soon. Feeling sick all day ist just horrible.
I had the same condition while pregnant, and even though it eased up at 4 months, with medication that I had to stay on the entire pregnancy, I could never go through that again.
It was horrific.
So sorry for you, I have heard how horrific the condition is. I’m curious if you have a son or daughter? My friend suffered through HG twice and had girls both times. I’d heard HG is far more common when you’re carrying a girl, so maybe this is a sign that Kate’s having a girl (even though her first pregnancy produced George)?
I’ve known two women with it, both suffered the entire pregnancy and both had girls , one of them even did it twice and sick again the whole pregnancy with a girl. She was in the hospital every week. What a nightmare.
FWIW, I also suffered from HG throughout both of my pregnancies… and both are girls!
First pregnancy, it hit right at 6 weeks. (Though the HG diagnoses came later.) I waited way too long to try medications (first baby, worried about everything, including taking meds), and it took a long time to get it under control. I was on medication until the day I delivered. Second pregnancy, I was sick almost immediately, before I even knew I was pregnant…. started medication as soon as I found out for sure that I was pregnant, and was able to manage the HG quite a bit better, though I was again on medication the entire pregnancy. Still miserable, but not quite as bad as the first time around.
I hope Kate feels better soon… she seemed to be doing better after the first 3 or 4 months of pregnancy the first time around, so hopefully it will be the same this time. While I still question the very early diagnoses of HG during her first pregnancy, I do think she had (and probably has now) some miserable morning sickness. Congrats to them and I am kind of hoping they have a girl this time too!
Esmom,
I think the old wives’ tale is you have morning sickness with a girl. I’ve certainly seen this borne out many times.
I did have a girl — but Kate had a boy! i could not even take low-dose bc pills —
I would throw up after 8 hrs of increasing nausea, after taking a pill every day. This was years before I had my daughter. And I started becoming nauseous the day after my period was late. Even with the full amount of medication allowed,
for the first 3 months I was completely bedridden, and either throwing up or on the verge of it for 18 hrs a day. For some reason it would subside quite a bit between 11 PM – 5 AM. I had to go live with my parents. I lost 12 lbs the first couple of months, and looked green. Anyone who makes light of what Kate has,
and suggests she should still try to buck up & show up anyway, just has no idea!
Impossible when you are in that state. You just want to die.
In my opinion, morning sickness is absolutely horrid. It’s not some cutesy little oohhhh I feel queasy so I ate a whole fried chicken and now I am all better deal like they make it seem on TV. It’s often like having the stomach flu. For two or so months. And as for this other thing… Good lord. The things I have heard about it. It’s a miracle we all still procreate. I had a friend who was so dehydrated she had an at home IV for fluids. Just crazy awful.
In my thinking – regardless of whether or not Kate has it – morning sickness is the devil. And it makes you feel isolated and crazy and so so sick. And as much as I wish she would champion causes more like Angelina Jolie- I have nothing negative to say about this. Feel better Kate.
Reading all the above makes me realize how fortunate I was. After listening to scare stories from my mom about how she suffered with morning sickness for seven months, I was prepared for the worst. Surprise! I had a blissful, nausea-free pregnancy. Not even mild queasiness.
Lol Look at all that Royal work that isnt gonna get done now!
I wonder if it’ll be a thing where she fronts like she is gonna care for both kids personally and then that’ll keep her busy
Or
They front frugal and give the spaniard nanny The Helion and the spare baby?
OR
New baby gets his/her own staff?
All of the above.
Rotflmao … Probably! Well played
Totally.
I’m not saying that we called it, but . . . we called it.
Hah! Yea. At least this time around William was seen constantly with Kate. That imo was what the pr was for. William by Kate’s side in her early weeks and not like last time when he was constantly away (on his Pelly no girls allowed unless they’re entertainment trips) while she suffered morning sickness. That was bad press.
All that aside i’m not without a heart or naive. She will do even less than before, but she is doing her main job. Birth the spare.
P.S. I really hope she takes on a baby or pregnancy related charity. Just having her name attached while pregnant will bring in so much for donations!
I wouldn’t count on it FLORC. Last time around all she did was take a baby basket – gifted to her that she didn’t want – and re-gifted it to EACH for a fund raiser. If she cared at all, she could have at least combined her shopping obsession with pretending to care about charity – and shopped for baby basket items herself. THAT would have raised money from Middleton’s obsessive fans.
Notasugarhere
I do remember that. There was more than a few whispers the charity was mad and wanted to remove her as a patron after that. And much speculation since they were talked to about keeping her on.
As I understand it she can’t (but does) keep the “gifts” so it’s really good she does donate. Otherwise they’re destroyed. That she gave the most plain 1 isn’t great, but it was a donation.
I think people took issue because it was simply handed off with nothing to make it stand out. No decorating or signed letter from Kate. Nor her attendance.
And I have 2 hopes for Kate regarding charities. 1. She starts to rock a trouser suit. You can be more flattering to your legs and rear in well tailored trousers.
2. She takes on a charity dealing with sick mothers or sick infants or both. She’s so lucky to have the health care she has. Others aren’t so lucky. Even to just bring awareness to an infant related sickness would be great. And it needs to happen while pregnant imo or just after.
And as far as shopping for things to donate. I disagree. That’s more spending. Now, she could work with a business to make things for her to donations. That would generate help for a business and a charity. Like how Camilla had her group construct those luxurious soap and cleansing kits to be handed out to woman recentlly raped. It’s tthe little things like that that make the greatest difference.
I’m sure Kate has people that can do that stuff. It’s really up to her to stick to a schedule and visit a charity.
Baby will also need their own kitchen in KP and a brand new nursery wing and a passel of nannies and protection officers. I see more taxpayers funded renovations to make room for another baby and their entourage. Ha!
What is going to happen with Willy’s job? Is he going to an absentee daddy and hubby?
On the upside, Waity’s ‘work’ is almost done.
Of course she is….
Congrats to them!
I know 2 other women who had babies about the same time she had George, and both are pregnant again too.
I know everyone’s been body language monitoring her for ages now, but you know when I really “knew”? The dinner at the pub when they were reportedly, “very lovey”. I remember being newly pregnant and also when we decided to adopt – those were moments when I felt especially connected and in league with my husband. When that story came out I got a pretty strong feeling about that.
So, congrats to them! I hope she’s not too ill. I have had a few friends with severe sickness, which has gotten worse with each pregnancy. My cousin just delivered her third child and her doctor has already said no more, as she spent most of the time ill and/or hospitalized with severe sickness.
That’s awful. I was wondering if it was normal to have it twice, I guess it is.
Maybe she’ll stop at 2. Given everything William and Harry went through as kids, it makes sense that William would want George to have a sibling close in age.
They get ragged on a lot for being lazy, etc. But it really must be hard to be a royal, always in the public eye and not sure of who to trust(look at how Kate’s friend leaked this news….like a month ago?).
It would be good to have a sibling to confide in.
I think it was longer than a month ago. Maybe late June? I don’t buy that whole “they were forced to announce it so early on because of her illness” line that’s been floating around on twitter. We all heard the rumors around mid-summer.
+1
Congratulations to the Cambridge family!
The “friend” said something in mid July.. Which is interesting to me, considering she and kate haven’t “spoken” in years
Mutual friends like to gossip
ataylor
Hah! That was a good one. Such sickness she drives herself past a few great hospitals to enter the one with Tanna perched at the side entrance to capture the whole thing and bring William back from his boys vacation.
Another good example of how Tanna has the inside track to all Middleton news.
I’m snarky today.
@MrsBPitt below
Yes. Isn’t it nice to have a child born into a family that doesn’t dictate the lives of its members or live off of the goverment to support a very luxurious lifestyle. Did you see the Duggar’s mansion? It’s insane they have that much wealth.
FLORC, you type truth not snark. Timed exactly to get William away from his hunting weekend and all captured by the Middleton family pap.
Audrey,
I’d never thought of the mutual friends angle with Jessica Hay, and I bet you’re right. She’s not spoken to Kate in 15 years, but they likely have someone close in common.
I suspected by looking at her face. Whatever she regularly had done to her face was stopped the last time she was pregnant. I specifically remember this because her face looked more reminiscent of her college years, and it wasn’t related to weight. However, her face returned to its post-marriage look about 6 months after birth. I think she attempts to mask it by coinciding the change with weight loss, but it’s something else. I think she had something done to the brow/eye area but it wasn’t surgical (hence it not being permanent). I’m going with Botox, but that’s the only non surgical method I know. Anyways, I will issue the standard congratulations.
PSA: Since we’re talking about kids, please everyone read up o the respiratory virus going around the US. It’s mostly Midwest, but expected to spread. It’s very scary. I would hate for someone to be caught off guard because the symptoms start off like the common cold.
What? I’m in the midwest and my teen son has a cold! We are both slightly worried and watching him closely because he had horrible pneumonia last winter but so far he only has congestion and a mild cough, no fever. Do you have more info or links?
Wait a minute –
HG sickness wasn’t around week ago. wasn’t there Waity doolittle at country restuarant with Willnot PR photogs, and eating dessert. Not to mention Train ride PR pics.
They really don’t spend time together. For willnot and doolittle make so much effort to PR pics – except poping the spare.
Coundown to Waity and wife #2. Wife 2 may really work for HM BRs taxpayers. Camilla DoC work ethics proves this support.
Send Doolittle back to ma muddleton and buckleberry outlet shops
@Esmom – Here you go! You can also Google “respiratory virus” and find more links. It’s very scary. I know someone who’s child is currently in the hospital in critical condition. He’s 3. 🙁
Just want to make sure people stay on top of this because it’s seems pretty severe.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/unidentified-respiratory-virus-hit-kids-country/story?id=25334106
http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/07/health/respiratory-virus-midwest/
http://kdvr.com/2014/09/05/severe-respiratory-virus-impacting-hundreds-of-kids-reaches-colorado/
@Pippa M,
You make me smile. A lot!
HH, thanks. I have been googling, and saw the CNN story, it is disturbing. As I said my son had severe pneumonia and was hospitalized for 10 days last winter. It was a heinous virus that triggered it, so it’s alarming to hear of yet another one making the rounds.
And the train pics were probably the result of a helicopter ride making her feel even more yucky, so they took the train.
I’d rather vomit in a limo into my golden basin/outside my limo, than on public transport/in a public washroom/in the aisle.
aww…congrats! Baby news always makes me smile! I mean, unless the news is from someone like Octomom or the Duggars…then I just grind my teeth!
Sigh. Too sick to work, quel surprise. This explains why they’ve been spending so much time together. Had Will taken himself off with his sidepiece(s), she would’ve checked herself into hospital again to humiliate him. Not that I blame her for wanting her husbands attention while pregnant. I just wish she wasn’t so lazy.
I dislike her (UK tax payer here -_-) but hyperemesis gravidarum is no joke – imagine puking all day, every day. I wouldn’t feel like getting out of the house either.
You’ve seen her medical records? It’s been reported that she had/has HG but it’s not fact.
She never had HG. They ran with that ridiculous excuse, but she didn’t have it, thereby making light of the suffering of women who actually have that debilitating condition. Women with HG do not magically recover just in time to take a 10 hour flight to a remote island (with no medical facilities) to spend a week on the beach. But magically the condition reappeared anytime she was expected to work an hour. lies lies lies to cover the laziness.
I’m sure it’s serious, but it just sounds so darn much like a Harry Potter spell.
notasugarhere, I suspected the HG story was BS last time, she just didn’t seem sick enough compared to the people I know who have suffered through it. I’m not saying she didn’t have bad morning sickness but HG is indeed more serious than many people might imagine.
Esmom, that is the point. Pretending to have HG and then flitting around to Switzerland and Mustique? That only makes it that much more difficult for women who HAVE the condition to get sympathy (or sick leave). “OH, you have what Kate Middleton had when she was papped pregnant on the beach in Mustique? Get back to work.”
As I posted above, I questioned the HG with her first pregnancy, in part, because of the early diagnoses. Plenty of women get really sick early on, require IV fluids and medication, feel better once they get into the second trimester, and are never diagnosed with HG. I had HG with both of my pregnancies… and while I was very sick early in the pregnancies, the diagnoses did not come right away in my first pregnancy. It is not only about being very sick and requiring treatment, but also having the sickness persist… usually well beyond the first trimester, and for many, through the entire pregnancy (though it can usually be managed somewhat with medications).
I would add that my HG diagnoses did come earlier in my 2nd pregnancy… probably because it was partially based on my history of having it during my first pregnancy.
I should also add that my impressions are based on my own experience and people I know in the US. It is possible that the healthcare systems in other countries differ in how they diagnose HG… as in, maybe sickness in pregnancy that requires treatment with medication is automatically diagnosed as HG?
William has Sidepieces? What?
for his hair – he orders them from the Jessica Simpson collection.
Mitch BR, f**king A! LMAO!
Red Notasug Gigi BettyRose Jiji
+1Billion
Willnot must have worn Wai-ty doolittle down and his trips away with pals.
Its been said Maldives luxury was baby making but Waity wanted to ‘wait’ -what new (close to solo duty!) but Willnot didn’t (Their pals). Willy want the spare taken care then he can be on his own time .
Will Willnot cry off ambulance job now or more reason to stay in country tax payers can afford doctors commute..
There are varying degrees of sickness with HG — it’s not an either/or thing. Some women are ill throughout the entire pregnancy. Some women are only very ill for the first few months. And everything in between. It is not outside of the realm of possibility that she was genuinely nauseated for the first few months and felt fine in the later trimesters. I know plenty women who were very ill early on, but felt much better in the later months. As well as plenty of women who swear by the new crop of anti-nausea meds….
Congratulations to them!
Congratulations to them!
Yay. That calls for an extra Splenda in my coffee.
LMAO!
Ha, perfect!
*grabs popcorn* It’s a slow day at work, so this is exactly what I need. Thanks Waity!
Wishing Kate an easier pregnancy and a healthy baby. Congrats.
Absolutely. I have only good wishes for her health and the baby’s health. Hope it’s a girl this time!
explains a lot doesn’t it? could harry be send in in her place to malta? god knows it’s never enough of harry’s pics
Now that’s what would get my toe tapping a baby Ginge. Harry has always been the more interesting one….to me at least. Cute boy
How soon before Kim k announces her next pregnancy ??
Exactly what I thought ! Lmao . She really believes she’s royalty
Ugh. People here think more about KimK and what she’s thinking than she does. It’s not enough to have that thread. She needs to be discussed all the time.
FLORC Exactly!!! Obsession.
Agree with Florc. The comparisons are way past tiresome.
Hahaha..my thoughts exactly when I heard the news…. waiting for KIMYE!!! Lmaoooooooooo
I had hyperemesis gravidarum when I was pregnant and I don’t think Kate ever had it. She just seems to have normal morning sickness. She was only in the hospital for like a day or two. I was throwing up for weeks and wasn’t even diagnosed as having hg until after I’d been throwing up constantly for about 3 weeks.
It was really miserable. I was so exhausted from throwing up that I was too tired to cry, talk or even lift my head from the pillow.
Where I work we have plenty of pts who are only in for one day, they most certainly had it, they, and she, may not have had as severe as you did, but they had it.
If this is a condition that only lasted a day or two for Middleton, why did they use it as an excuse for her not to work for the duration of the pregnancy? She was healthy-enough to travel to Switzerland and Mustique for fun, but wasn’t well enough to work more than a handful of hours? Nope, not buying the HG.
Which makes me wonder about that lovey dovey date last week at the pub. Weren’t they supposedly eating fish? No way if she was having morning sickness.
women react differently to different smells.
I was fine with fish while pregnant. But I couldn’t smell any pasta sauce or pizza or I’d be sick.
Morning sickness also doesn’t usually hit until around 7-8 weeks. She may have felt fine until recently
With me it was hard boiled eggs.
Didn’t kate have a “white wine spritzer”?
Proof that story was made up, IMO.
@AmandaPanda – I thought the same thing this morning! I wasn’t sure if the story was made up, or if the Brits have a different attitude than the US when it comes to having a drink or two during pregnancy?
For me it was pizza as well. Which broke my heart as I love pizza and was craving it all the time. But the second the box would open…urgh. No issues with fish.
well,mine started in week 8..didnt know i was pregnant till then and I hate fish now..unless it salted and fried crisp dry
I thought Kate had severe vomiting for several weeks before going into the hospital? Because she’s in the royal family precautions are usually taken even if it seems unnecessary.
I’m sorry you were sick, but I am so tired of people who aren’t doctors and haven’t examined her or even met her deciding that there’s some big conspiracy and she doesn’t have it. You have no idea whether she has it or not. Just because yours may have been different or more severe doesn’t mean she doesn’t have it. Every person is different. She was hospitalized. Why would they lie? It’s just ridiculous.
She was hospitalized for her first pregnancy. She’s being “treated” by doctors inside Kensington Palace this time around…no hospitalization.
I was referring to her first pregnancy. Sorry I didn’t make that clear.
T H I S.
Yassss. Different strokes for different folks you guys.
Exactly. I have never been pregnant but I have been around pregnant women and they do not react the same to everything. People’s dislike for K&W really clouds their judgement when it comes to pregnancy issues.
THIS.
Again, this theory falls apart when she was healthy enough to play (Switzerland, Mustique) but not healthy enough to work more than a handful of hours the entire pregnancy.
+1,000,000 Goodnames!
I’d guess that she’s not hospitalized this time because they know what’s wrong with her and are treating it earlier. In her first pregnancy they probably thought it was simple morning sickness for a long time, and only sought treatment when it was bad enough that they got scared. I’m guessing this time it was an “Oh eff, here we go again” scenario and they called the doctor to their house (perk of being HRH!). There’s not much you can do in a hospital that you can’t do at home to treat HG (IV meds/fluids).
Well said, GoodNames.
It was bound to happen. Here We Go!
Morning sickness and HG are the same. HG is an extreme form and lasts much longer. I believe the numbers are still 15% of woman who HG opt to abort the pregnancy it’s so terrible. To swallow your own saliva can make you sick.
And Kate did not officially have HG. The Noro Virus was circling the UK at that time. A 48 hour bug easily caught and causes extreme sickness. And the Palace in a statement said she had it.
And no way she could have presented with David Beckham shortly after being “diagnosed”. The scents of perfumes in the air would have been too much.
And HG is not diagnosed that early and in the 1st pregnancy. You just can’t know that early on.
Does Kate have morning sickness? Likely. Is it more than that? I really doubt it.
Now lt’s put this “fact” started by the sloppy KP PR to bed
Thank you FLORC! We’re supposed to buy that she was violently ill but gee, none of her family members could drive her (past) those couple of hospitals you mentioned. She drove herself to the hospital where Tanna was waiting. 48 hours before she was running around a field hockey pitch in heels with kids – at a school where noro virus was running rampant.
Not HG, never was.
But what do you mean she “did not officially have HG”? Bc her doctors didn’t release medical records? You’re completely entitled to your opinion, and I do agree that Switzerland/Mustique are slightly suspicious, but to be honest, like GoodNames mentioned earlier it is tiresome to hear people repeat what they believe as FACT. We can (and do) speculate, but to state what you feel she “offifcially” did or did not have based on your interpretation of the facts is a bit much.
The facts of her behavior during the duration of the pregnancy disprove HG.
Right, and I agreed that her behavior was suspect. But, as I said, my issue is when opinions are being presented as fact.
And I genuinely wonder, had she worked more during her pregnancy, (in addition to her trips to Switzerland and Mustique) would people have still been so quick to dismiss her HG? My guess is no.
Well, I *am* a physician and I personally have had mild HG. Her symptoms were consistent with HG. She may have had a good response to treatment and been justifiably afraid to be in a public situation if her symptoms recurred suddenly. A lot less embarrassing to run to the bathroom clutching your stomach while on a secluded vacation than in a public setting with cameras flashing in your face.
@S,
Now how can you know what symptoms she had? Do we even know she was throwing up and how much? Were we told any other symptoms? So how can you diagnose this?
All that was reported, IIRC, was that the palace announced, but *not* the hospital, that she had HG. That’s *all* the ‘evidence’ we have. And then a short while later, she was flying off to Mustique.
Given their penchant for outright *lying* and shying away from royal duties, why should we believe them now?
@hmmm,
Why would you expect a hospital to announce ANYTHING? And assuming the UK has similar laws to the US, the hospital COULDN’T make that announcement anyway [HIPAA, anyone?]. That’s asking an awful lot…
Dani Lakes DDS
No. A doctor doesn’t need to disclose that and they shouldn’t. I’m only saying the Palace whipped out a sttement claiming she had severe HG while she was in the hospital for a matter of hours. Considering the Palace didn’t even find out about it the moment she went in is something.
S
I’ll say is this, because I can’t prove my position in the medical field without giving up my personal info. I’ll only claim i’m in the medical field also. Kate’s symptoms were well documented very openly.
What we know from coverage and palace stantements is Kate had morning sickness during a time when a 48 hour virus was circulating. The Noro Virus mimics HG perfectly. And S. She was in public quite often shortly after her hospital stay. She was caught shopping often, a few pap friendly lupo walks, and doing choice events. Sports awards, field hockey, and general active fun eents or dress up in a gown events. While she vacationed through out this she was hardly hiding away incase she feels ill. She was quite visible and very active.
For anyone here’s a link that goes through what the key points of HG are. And how it’s different from morning sickness. Keep scrolling through page to get symptoms, treatment, etc…
Morning Sickness
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/morning-sickness/basics/definition/con-20033445
HG
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperemesis_gravidarum#Diagnosis
And http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001499.htm
Just a few points to reference. I am not treating Kate. I have no access to her files. Just based on how she was during her 1st pregnancy outside of that 2 day stay at a hospital it does not look to be HG. Award show presenter, various long plane rides, all day shopping trips on her feet smiling away. It’s just not supporting more than morning sickness combined with a possible Noro Virus, combined with her carrying the heir and doctors rightfully being very cautious over her health and well-being.
I’m leaving it at that. Going over Kate having not having HG is beating a dead horse. Time to move on.
@DaniLake,
You’re right- the hospital would not announce it. I was trying to make a point, lamely. You did choose to ignore the rest of the comment though. And what were her symptoms?
FLORC and others have stated numerous times the reasons why they think it wasn’t HG. I agree with them for the same reasons. No one has given reasons why she had HG considering the fact that no one was privy to the symptoms, only the PR statement, which we should take on faith. I guess some are believers, others are not.
You’re right, FLORC, time to move on.
@hmm,
You’re right, I did choose to ignore the rest of your statement. The part of your statement about a hospital confirmation is the only part I wanted to respond to, bc I have seen that mentioned before [not sure if it was by you or by other commenters in the past] and it has bothered me. So yes, I DID willingly ignore the rest of your statement, in fact I only skimmed it . But since you seem to want me to answer the rest, I will.
I do not know to her symptoms, nor have I ever claimed to. I never said one way or the other whether she did or did not have HG. All I know is that the palace released a statement saying she had HG, and I never felt a need to question it. It is my opinion, that unless dealing with certain forms of mental illness [hypochondria, for example], if a person says they have an illness, I choose to believe it. Why lie? Have they lied in the past about lots of other things? Absolutely. But I have always viewed lying about an illness as borrowing trouble. I also know how it feels to have an illlness and have people question it, so I tend to believe people when they say they have something. You may choose otherwise, and more power to you, but I do not like the attitude that some posters have that anyone who chooses [for whatever reason] to believe her is stupid/glib/sheep.
You also ask “without knowing her other symptoms, how can we diagnose this?” Why is it our place to diagnose her? Either we believe her or we don’t. I do. You don’t. Such is life.
And you’re right. FLORC and others have stated why they don’t believe it. And I can absolutely see their point, yet still maintain my own opinion. I’m not acting as though those who don’t believe her are crazy conspiracy theorists bc they don’t see things my way, why can’t some people who don’t believe her treat the rest of us with that same respect?
@DaniLake,
One small point: someone claimed to be able to diagnose her with HG from her symptoms. That was my issue with asking “how can we diagnose without other symptoms”. Fact is, no one can, and no one can diagnose, period. Not even medical personnel on this site. It’s all speculation and opinion.
As for the rest, fair enough and well said!
@hmmm
Can I just say that I’m really enjoying this study break [aka procrastination time! lol], and that I also enjoy that this has been a rational conversation, even though we don’t really agree? Hope you have a good rest of your day! 🙂
Dani Lakes DDS
Yes. there’s no reason why a difference in opinion should grant or deny your comment any less or more respect here. How you phrase it and interact with other poster? Absolutely! Not claiming you did this. Only to give example as to why 1 might withhold respect here.
We’re all entitled to our opinions and sometimes here people get very aggressive when you defend or criticize the subject of the post. That’s a shame.
I do give the side eye to crazy conspiracy theories that pass through here. I won’t mention any because it could spark debates.
I believe she didn’t have HG. While i’m also basing this on my 1st person encounters with those suffering from it i’m only stating facts I can back up here. So, there’s more info that sways me to not HG you’re unaware of.
You’ve been polite in your posts here so no need to lunge at you for having your own opinion.
P.S. Many of some really fun posters have left these royal threads because they’ve gotten too negative. Civil debate is nearly gone with a line in the sand. Name calling and conspiracy theories have slowly been creeping in. I won’t/can’t stop this, but will leave.
Exactly. And it’s worth noting HG was never ever mentioned by them again when the media started talking about what a serious condition it can be. I think it was brought up by doctors as a possible diagnosis during her hospital visit, and they ran with it not realizing it wasn’t just another way to say bad morning sickness then had to retreat when people started talking about abortion and maternal death.
I had HG. I spent 4 months on total bed rest and most of the time I couldn’t so much as turn my head without starting another vomiting episode. I almost choked on my own vomit once because I didn’t have the strength to turn my body over. By the third trimester I was off bed rest, but I still couldn’t manage much more than a walk around the block, and the retching was still constant. I didn’t even have particularly bad HG. Never had to have an extended stay in hospital, mostly managed to keep enough food and water down, didn’t lose my baby.
Kate may have had very bad morning sickness for a few weeks, but there’s no way she had HG. Just weeks after being let out of hospital she was playing tennis and shopping for hours on end. At that stage in the pregnancy, anyone with HG will just be extremely lucky if they can still move about their own home a little and not be on total bed rest.
Kate
Glad you made it through that. My heart goes out to any woman having to suffer through what should be an exciting 9 months of growing your child.
I think people here are confused as to the difference between HG and MS. Sadly, many are quickly educating themselves from a quick search on it. Its more than that.
Morning sickness is the worst. Mine lasted all day, all night for 16 weeks. Could barely function. However, there are specific criteria for this to be called ‘hyperemesis gravidum’ which I don’t think Kate met last time, and I doubt she is having now. (This includes irretracible nausea, inability to keep down anything, weight loss, dehydration and electrolyte imbalances, which in typical HG last well into the second trimester and beyond.)
I’m not saying she doesn’t feel HORRIBLE, and that she may be needing some medical care, but many women with real HG end up in the hospital, on zofran drips, for weeks to months. I think the royal pr machine is just using ‘HG ‘ to explain why she is missing functions to make it sound more serious than it is, to garner sympathy. I am also not saying she shouldn’t be excused from trips, etc- again I bet she feels terrible. (It’s like a hangover that never ends. No relief after throwing up. It’s awful, really.) But let’s call a spade a spade and just call it bad morning sickness, and moms around the world will have the same sympathy for her without needlessly sensationalizing it.
I think it’s inordinately cruel to police or dismiss other people’s medical crises. And inordinately absurd to do from a distance! On this kind of thing, I will ALWAYS give the stranger/patient the benefit of the doubt. Where is people’s empathy?
And why does everyone insist on diagnosing her when they aren’t doctors and haven’t seen her medical information? It really is just ridiculous and unkind.
THIS! I find this whole argument that “she never had it” or “she was never diagnosed” spoken as fact to be so disheartening.
GNAT, One one hand I hear you because we peasants will never really know what the real story is, as with most celeb gossip, but on the other hand I don’t think it’s necessarily cruel or dismissive to speculate, which is pretty much all we do around here.
Based on what I know of HG from a friend who experienced it twice, Kate’s experience with George seemed far less severe, based on how much she was out and about. I don’t doubt she was sick but to label her with a diagnosis that may not be legit does a disservice to those who truly have suffered from HG. Hence my skepticism.
And now I will try to gracefully bow out. 🙂
No, no, Esmom, I speculate all the time. That’s what we do. My only objection is when people on here say she definitely didn’t have it because thus and so, and if you choose to believe she did, you’re wrong. They have no way of knowing, any more than I do. I happen to believe she was sick enough to be hospitalized, and it probably varies in degree, so I buy that she had it. But I certainly can’t state it as a fact, and neither can the people who don’t believe it.
Also, I do understand your point about falsely labeling it being a disservice to someone who really has it. Hope your poor friend is better.
And now, I will truly try to bow out as well as I have run on and on. So sorry!
So long as the sickness crisis is real and not overboard for PR. Then yes we understand.
+1B on opinions….
I don’t read any comment as hate towards Waity Dooluttle muddleton.
We are commenting crtiquing behaviour, unregalness, waste of tax payers funds- unnecessary renos; ‘Waity Doolittle from 20s, as workless muddleton to representing HM the BRF for GB Commonwealth – 1-2 hours a week giving back, shaking a few hands small talk promoting a charity instead of running around shopping, hair shop, multiple luxury vacations, etc.
We have the paps from around the web other sites- and pics : a mom. Who have LOTs of me time and without baby PG.
Yes, regular morning sickness. The pattern of her treatment last time just didn’t match with the treatment for women with HG.
But why cant it just be a matter of every body is different? I have seen patients with deep caries or patients with TMJ problems that “don’t match the (typical) treatments “…doesn’t make their problems/ailment/disease any less valid.
NAS – your comments are always so logical!
How do you know her pattern of treatment? She was in the hospital those first few days, and as you shout ad nauseum, didn’t do much else during the pregnancy. She was seen out on some walks and went shopping and took one vacation as far as we know. She wasn’t seen anywhere near every day out and about doing normal day-to-day things. So I’m going to suggest that its just as possible that she was seen out and about at times when she was feeling ok and spent the rest of her days feeling like crap.
HG varies in severity for different people. Most women go about their normal daily routines, which includes working, despite the crap that is HG. She’s lucky enough to have the option of limiting her work, a luxury that most women don’t have, but it doesn’t mean she didn’t/doesn’t have HG.
Congrats to them both. They are defenetly in a position to have another one so quickly. Morning sickness can really suck. When I was pregnant at my work there was a real pressure or unspoken code that just because your pregnant, don’t think you can be calling in sick all the time. Which was really hard sometimes. I only called in sick once and that was with the flu. I was vomiting in rubbish bins and some days I could barly keep my eyes open. I was never as serve as Kate but still it was hard.
Wow, that unspoken code sounds like it belongs in the rubbish bin.
So sorry you felt pressured to work through such awful sickness.
So was the reporting about their date bogus? Because it very clearly stated that Kate was drinking wine, while William just had soda.
A little wine while pregnant is fine.
Oh, I know, but there’s still enough stigma around it that I’m surprise they were OK allowing that detail in the report.
Actually, it’s not. Every single person and every single baby responds differently to alcohol in any amount. There is no exact science to what someone is “safe” with and someone else may be harmed. The British do have a more relaxed attitude around drinking during pregnancy, but as the mother of five children who were prenatally exposed (and dealing every day with the consequences of those “few” drinks), I can tell you the best advice is 049 (zero alcohol for nine months).
Maybe they didn’t know at the time? It’s also possible she just took a few sips and switched to water.
Did Kate find out that she’s pregnant yesterday or something? When she and William went on that lovey dovey dinner date it was reported that Kate drank alcohol. Did she not suspect that she could be pregnant? I mean she must have missed at least one menstrual cycle unless she’s irregular. Well I don’t think her alcohol consumption will harm the baby since she’s still in the early stages on pregnancy. Congrats to them on the baby.
To call off rumors and distract tabloids, I’d order alcohol, but not drink it. Even so, I think a little bit is not that bad.
I am happy that they are working on that family. They are already in their 30s, so why wait?
Maybe she had a glass of sparkling water with a lime in a wine glass? That would look like a white wine spritzer to me.
She had one wine spritzer and it may very well have been dealcoholized wine, we don’t know. Maybe she had a few sips and didn’t finish it. Please folks, she barely drinks at the best of times, I don’t think this will have any deleterious effect on anyone.
Yay!!
i hope it´s another boy… a girl would likely be the next generation of eyeliner abusers 😉
Anything to get the voter’s minds off of a free Scotland! A conveniently-timed announcement I think, especially when when she’s not even 12 weeks along or staying overnight in a hospital. Yes, I’m a conspiracy theorist. lol.
I am not a conspiracy theorist – anything BUT – yet I’ve had the same thought.
i really, really doubt it is a coincidence.
It’s my PR background. One thing I know for sure is, at least 75% of all front page news stories are PR driven. I give all breaking, front page news that doesn’t involve a natural disaster or a violent crime the side-eye. Force of habit. 🙂
I know all about it, my esteemed colleague… well, EX-colleague. 🙂
I still make it a hobby of mine to analyse the headlines of different newspapers.
You know why. 🙂
P.S. As a matter of fact, there was an article in the DM yesterday that practically said as much: I think it was something along the line of “will this baby save the Union?”
At last someone with the same thought as me. News reports all weekend that the country is in crisis with the Scotland vote, the Queen meeting with Cameron, and then this… Yep a massive coincidence. Also a conspiracy theorist, definitely not a royalist!
Oh, I bet there are more of us – of the same thought – than you might suspect. 🙂
Unfortunately, the idiots seem always to carry the majority and rule the country.
And that goes for every country on this planet.
Rubbish. Because Scots will keep the Royal family anyway…. So your conspiracy is quite a bit flawed lol
Queen Elisabeth is the Queen of England and Scotland and Scottish PM said nothing will change in that regard (he wouldn’t have been so stupid to give up all the profits coming from Royals visits…)
It’s not rubbish at all, psychologically (if not constitutionally) speaking.
There was an article in the DM yesterday which actually formulated the thought “aloud” as it were: “Will this baby save the Union?”
(Yes, it’s the pitiful DM. But the DM is still one of the most reliable pulse-takers of Britain.)
I should have scrolled down before commenting above. I think the timing of the announcement was all about the latest referendum poll too. Anything to get it off the front pages.
@ Lady M – I don’t think conspiracy in a way that it would remind people of the lovely (!) monarchy that they might lose by a YES vote (as you say, they wouldn’t) but I do think it’s fair to say that the Establishment would do just about anything to get the independence referendum off the front pages.
@Sixer
Well… Off where? Because be sure that the yes lead in the poll will take over Scottish papers front pages tomorrow anyway… English papers don’t count lol
So, if it was that way,…. Attempt failed!
They are 51% yes 49% no this morning
@Lady M – I didn’t say it would WORK! 😉
I simply think the smug twits in Westminster have suddenly had a fuse lit right under their youknowwhats and are scrabbling around with desperate rearguard actions. You can see how much notice they take of anything outside their bubble (Scotland, any of the regions, anything that isn’t in their tiny little sphere) that it’s only just dawning on them that YES is a significant possibility.
@Sixer
Well, for sure it won’t work!! LOL 😀
Then, Scottish papers are different from English ones. Unless, publishing Kate’s news, they will ‘come out of their yes or no closet’ lol
Yes, Westminster woke up, finally. It is not much use though…. Sterling pound plummetted a lot this morning and Westminster twoats might have taken notice.
Problem is another… from my point of view, Scotland will go towards a civil war, no matter the vote. Did you see the stuff posted online?
They sold votes on ebay, ripped other people postal votes, yes camp even has a ‘terrorist’ website, NO and YES signs in fields get trashed after being put there… It doesn’t bide well my dear, not at all.
‘Us’ who are ‘border-people’ are a bit worried, I’m not really far from Scotland… I’m following the issue quite closely.
Oh wait… trying to find my tin foil hat too, conspiracies of any kind flying around….
Yes – been following for a long time (long before the MSM got a handle on it) and feelings are HIGH. And there won’t be a significant enough majority – whichever way the Scots decide to go – for feelings and resentment to dissipate any time soon.
What’s the little ex-spy/diplomat guy’s name? Rory something. I watched his series on the Borders a few months back. It was great. I can see why you’re concerned, Lady M.
Lady M, I’m in Scotland. Please don’t worry – the Yes campaign doesn’t have a terrorist website, and it’s actually all really civilised up here. Whatever happens, there won’t be a civil war. I promise you. Tiny tensions between individuals are being blown WAY out of proportion, particularly by the Daily Mail, and there’s some downright irresponsible “journalism” going around with people desperate to create a story, stoke up fear and sell papers. What it’s doing is obscuring the fact that we’re having a huge, exciting and amazing debate about our constitutional and democratic future – a debate that’s being had by the people, not the politicians, in townhalls and community centres all over the country. It’s beautiful. And it’s a peaceful process, too – we’re hugely lucky, as there are precious few other countries can say that about any sort of independence debate.
Back on topic! Poor Waity, they’ve absolutely forced her to announce this far too early.
Haha… I had the same thought. Scotland is just about to vote for independence and this is announced? I’m sorry, buy Kate not showing up with William anywhere would not raise red flags. She rarely shows up!
I think the announcement was about not pi@@ing off Dickson Poon. He is a major player in biz and philanthropy in England, and no doubt a player in thawing the relationship between England and China. Today’s ribbon cutting was a big deal to a big person and Kate’s reason for not showing needed to be really good.
Aw congrats! It’s gonna be fun for George to have a brother/sister so close to him in age 🙂
Prince George is the cutest thing! Obviously, William and Kate make gorgeous babies. I hope they have a daughter and name her Diana.
Keep wishing, because William won’t ever name a daughter Diana. Most of the British journalists believe it’s something just would NOT do.
Oh nice, my son was born a few weeks before Prince George and I am expecting my second, who will be born in April as well…
It will be fun to watch her pregnancy alongside mine…
Congratulations on your impending arrival, and best wishes for a smooth, healthy pregnancy.
🙂
Yes, congratulations!
Contratulations!
And Kim Kardashian announces pregnancy in 3..2..
I am no fan of these people, I’d love to see the whole institution dissolved, and everyone on this board already knows how I feel about Kate’s eyeliner and how George creeps me the heck out. But please, let’s avoid the “faking/exaggerating her sickness” crap and the “she only wants to get out of work” crap today. Pretty please? Let’s be human adults and cut a sick, pregnant woman some slack. I don’t care how rich or pampered she is–life doesn’t get any more real for women than THIS.
THIS! I do criticize Kate and Will for many things but this is just uncalled for. We all can guess that Kate won’t be doing many royal work for seeable future but I don’t have it in me to snark about a pregnant woman’s sickness. I just wish they will have a healthy baby ( hopefully a girl).
Amen, Godwina. I give her grief for a lot of things, but a pregnant woman heaving her guts out is not lazy. She’s feeling terribly sick and needs to put her baby and her health first.
Sympathy for any pregnant woman who feels unwell, certainly. The pretend HG diagnosis is unethical and offensive to those who really suffer from that condition.
It’s a lot more offensive to pretend that you know for a fact that she doesn’t have a medical condition that she says she does have.
I find the bile on here for W&K so gross. I’d actually stopped reading these posts entirely the past few months, and I’m really sorry I decided to check this one out. You don’t have to like them. You can certainly criticize them if you think they should work more or she should wear less eyeliner or whatever else. But claiming as a fact that this woman doesn’t have a medical condition (because your sister’s friend’s neighbor had HG and hers was totally different, so therefore it’s impossible Kate could have it – eyeroll) or that she’s only having babies to avoid work or that she timed her pregnancy to upstage her brother in law — well, I’ll just say that I think that reflects a LOT worse on the people saying those kinds of things than on W&K.
Why are you attacking her for her opinion, Esti? She’s entitled to think whatever she wants about them. Just as you are entitled to yours.
Right, and my opinion is that her post was offensive and reflects poorly on her. Which I am expressing, just as she expressed her opinion.
Thanks, Mia. This thread is showing an interesting new twist on the usual “you’re just a jelli hater” bit.
@The Original Mia
I didn’t view her response as attacking her opinion, but more speaking about the fact that she is presenting her opinion as fact. It’s one thing to say “I don’t think she had HG”. Perfectly valid statement. But to state that is was a “pretend diagnosis” and “unethical” is quite another.
@notasugarhere
I don’t think this is a a “jelli hater” thread, I just think people are voicing their opinions. I get really frustrated with the idea of calling someone a “jelli hater” (to borrow your phrase) simply because they voice an opinion that’s different from yours, or stating that just bc people disagree with you they think you’re a hater. People disagree, that’s life. Not everyone is jealous, no is everyone accusing others of being jealous.
I just assume (and again, the dangers of assuming), that everyone on here understands that everyone here is voicing opinions. It is up to you to figure that out, or your mistake if you don’t. Otherwise every single post on this thread would have to have “IMO” on it which would be annoyingly repetitive. The “IMO” is implied in my mind.
@notasugarhere,
Yes the dangers of assuming. Bc you really do [at times] come across as condescending and as though your opinions are fact, and anyone who doesn’t agree is incorrect. Maybe that’s not your intent, but that’s how it reads. And maybe it’s not my mistake for not getting it, but maybe your mistake for not making yourself clear. [It’s likely a combination of the two, but you seem to want to put the onus on me]
It is also very difficult to read and convey tone in just text for lots of us (no facial expressions or other cues), which adds to it. Several of us have admitted to not being able to perceive sarcasm in written form.
@notasugarhere
Ok, I appreciate the clarification. I also hope it doesn’t come across that I am picking at you [as I realized I have responded to several of your posts]. That is not my intent at all. Just to clarify, my dental school taught based on a PBL or Problem Based Learning system. One thing we had drilled into us with certain case facilitators was that you cannot, under any circumstances, state opinions as facts, and without clearly stating that you are voicing your opinion, and not a fact. So I tend to get a tad serious when it comes to that, as it’s been hammered into my brain.
@notasugar,
Agreed. If true, it is, indeed, unethical and offensive. My watershed was when they buggered off from the Paralympics to soak up the sun in France, and LIED that they were busy working. From the Paralympics……how offensive can you get?
@hmm,
I agree! They made just as much of a commitment to the olympics as the paralympics, yet didn’t put in NEARLY as much of an effort or showing of support with the paralympics. They should have been ashamed of themselves. And while I truly believe the topless photo was a gross invasion of privacy, there was a very small part of me that kiiiinda felt like it was karmic retribution. [Although there is a larger part of me that wished the embarrassing photos had been of him, as I believe she was just following his lead in skipping the paralympics.]
Great comment Godwina, I agree 100%. Not everything is a conspiracy or lie.
Not everything is a conspiracy or a lie, but on the flip side, not everything is as true as they tell us.
They don’t have a very good track record when it comes to honesty (for example when they said they were too busy “working” to attend the paralympics…but then were caught vacationing in France). So I think this is where a lot of people’s hesitation and doubt comes from (including my own).
inthekitchen – they did attend the Paralympics. Not everything you read about the royals, good and bad, is true …
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/prince-william-kate-middleton-not-so-royal-wave-paralympics-event-article-1.1148149
@Megan – perhaps it was specifically the closing ceremonies then. It was definitely some event where they said they had to work and then came the whole naked sunbathing episode.
Megan – I believe the issue was not that they didn’t go at all to the Paralympics but that they dropped out of most of their appearances to go on vacation. I believe they refused to be sponsors or patrons for this reason also.
It’s in the linked article. They attended a couple of Paralympic events, then skipped the rest and the closing ceremonies “taking time to prepare for their forthcoming overseas tour.’ Preparation = naked sunbathing.
The point of my post was to clarify a lie that was being used to accuse William and Kate of lying. But since was are talking about the Paralympics, let’s not forget the queen ditched the opening ceremony because she did not want to miss her train to Balmoral and Harry (fresh off the Vegas scandal) also blew off the closing ceremony despite being the patron of Walking with the Wounded and the founder of the Invictus games. I believe Prince Edward was the only royal to attend the closing ceremony, so good on him.
Megan – so you are going to compare the two hardest working royals with William and Kate? This doesn’t work, for many reasons.
Christina – what a double standard.
Harry had “longstanding military commitments”–not what I would call blowing off the closing ceremony. The Invictus Games are a huge undertaking and he’s been very involved from the very beginning. He doesn’t just show up, shake hands and take credit, like some other royals I know.
Megan – a double standard would be me judging William and Kate even if they did the same amount of work as the Queen and Harry. They don’t. Harry had to cut his appearances short because of other actual commitments where as the octogenarian Queen was on her way to her traditional summer rest after her constant work that she still has to mostly fulfil herself because William and Kate refuse to take on any of those duties.
Good for them! Having a sibling close to George’s age will help him greatly in future. I hope it is a girl. I want to see cute toddler dresses.
Congratulations! Girl or boy, doesn’t matter as long as it’s healthy. And since every pregnancy is different, here’s hoping this one has less morning sickness.
HG is no joke. I hope it passes soon and she has a happy, healthy pregnancy.
Cynical response: I guess this means she’ll be spending most of her time in London, to be near her doctors, during the pregnancy… While William does his training in Norfolk.
Nice response: Best wishes for a healthy pregnancy and baby.
These two seem to be separated often. Why?
What bothers me the most, is that these two act extremely entitled.
As she’s pregnant again, they apparently aren’t separated when it matters.
1. This is absolutely timed to help the no vote in Scotland.
2. I knew something was up as a helicopter flew into and out of kp early this morning. It’s like clockwork. Id put money on her being in Berkshire and/or William going to Oxford by chopper.
It is great that you are right there, so can tell us these tidbits!
Just a thought… If this announcement was timed to help the no vote in Scotland (which I have no opinion whatsoever on, but think is an interesting theory – I hadn’t heard much about the whole campaign until the polls over the past few days showed the yes in the lead), then isn’t this an example of Will and Kate “taking one for the team”/putting the monarchy first/putting their own self interests second to that of their country etc. etc.? Something that many always say that Will is too petulant and stubborn to do?
Yes, there was a high level meeting several months ago, her ovulation schedule was mapped by royal ovulation schedulers, William’s sperm were tested to see when they’d be at their most active, a group of pollsters and marketing specialists were there to test the effect of a baby on poll numbers, and random Scottish people were contacted to see if they were stupid enough to be so distracted by a royal baby announcement that they would completely change their minds about the future of their country, and voila! Baby announcement!
She’s fulfilled her responsibility (heir and spare) so once this baby is born she can sit around and look decorative for the rest of her life.
Congrats to them and may her pregnancy go smoothly.
To be honest the only thing that interests me about this pregnancy is that it just shows that Jessica Hay was wrong and she doesn’t have any access to them anymore.
http://www.celebitchy.com/376306/duchess_kate_is_pregnant_again_says_her_friend_gossip-savant_jessica_hay_/
And really the tabs have had Kate pregnant almost every week before George after the wedding. Remember peanut butter gate?
But didn’t Jessica Hay say she was pregnant?
Look at the link. What I mean is that Hay was wrong because given that the Palace said she not even twelve weeks along that means that Kate probably wasn’t pregnant then. The only way for Jessica’s story to be correct is if she conceived in May or June which seems highly unlikely cause she didn’t look pregnant then.
The only reason why I’m going on about this is because I think Royal bumpwatch is ridiculous. The palace clearly has no problems announcing when royal family members are expecting a child. And as I said before, the tabs have her pregnant every week. I mean peanut butter gate was not the first time people were wrong about her being pregnant. Hell with most celebs in general bumpwatch is more wrong than right.
And let’s be real here: When people thought something big was going down, virtually everyone including myself was expecting a huge damaging scandal. Not another baby.
Kate seems like a sweet girl but lacks the mystical aura Diana possessed. America and its “stars/celebs” were as intrigued, if not more so, by her than the Brits. Kate and William having an heir and a spare is wonderful news, but not a monumental moment as when Diana was pregnant. She threw people into a frenzy with both of her pregnancies and people couldn’t wait to hear the next story about her. The King may not be dead, but long live the Princess. Bow down Kate.
That’s so true Gina. Kate does not have the magic Diana had.
I hope it’s a girl, and I’m relieved for Kate. Providing that spare gives her job security. Didn’t work too great for Di, but we’ve already established that Kate has different expectations of royal life.
It didn’t work for Diana because her marriage to Prince Charles was a farce to begin with.
True, but having done her duty, she was still able to maintain significant benefits in divorce: her title – minus HRH – and an apartment in Kensington.
One more thing: I guess I’ll have to put the popcorn away for any potential Royal Scandal. Any scandal will get buried now in the near future. I do still think the British Press aren’t as fawning over them as they used to be, but they aren’t gonna risk the Palace’s wrath by putting out anything scandalous during what is supposed to be a happy time.
Aw, congrats to them! Can’t wait to see baby George as a big brother!
Good luck to China on a diplomatic visit now. These two will be milking pregnancy and new baby for all it’s worth! They’ll need to recover or bond, or some other B.S.. Vacation will be wa-a-y more important than going to China!
Gold stars to the royal-trackers who predicted last week that an announcement of some significance was due!
In other, related news…I see Bonnie Prince George has ousted Victoria Beckham as the influence behind Marks & Sparks’ latest Limited Edition range. Giant old-fashioned nursery outfits in pastels. Appalling. 🙁
Congrats to Kate, William and George!!
I’m going to be generous and say at least she’s working. I hated being pregnant so it was like a job I was contracted to do that I couldn’t wait to be over. If I look at it that way for her she is on official royal pregnant duty.
Congrats to them and cheers to all those on the royal beat, they now have a reason to talk about nothing else for 7 months or so.
Earlier comment disappeared. She is being treated privately at Kensinton Palace (so not sick-enough to be hospitalized). This could have been easily hidden from the public. Since they are so fond of lying, they could have said George had the sniffles and she was staying home with him instead of going to Oxford. Instead, they trot this out just in time to take attention from Harry and Invictus. Yep, Pinkerton is back on the job.
Yes to everything.
If she had just not shown up for two or three events she’s scheduled to be at this week, then everyone would have known something was up, anyway. It just would have meant that the press was full of speculation about Kate maybe being pregnant. Announcing it means there will be a bunch of coverage, but not nearly to the same pitch as her just disappearing off the face of the earth for the next few weeks.
Notasugarhere
I’d imagine they have great care facilities and staff for all royals within palaces. Tanna made the big hospital stay news. There is no reason Kate would find herself in need to drive herself to an urgent care facility. And I believe last time she was at her parents home and not at the palace.
Esti
Kate’s events are eggs counted before they hatch. It’s often listed, but not always attended. I doubt anyone would have thought much more than another cancellation with followup reasons.
Fair well Royaloonies! In need of a negativity detox.
Oh God! Here we go again….
We knew something was coming up and viola, it’s another baby. But for people who are sooooo private, why is it necessary to say she has HG? She didn’t act like someone with even a mild case of HG. She acted like someone who had morning sickness, got over it and then went on to Mustique with her family on vacation. Anyhoo…congrats on another baby. Guess we’ll see her work again in another few years because it most definitely ain’t happening now.
Wonder if Harry will go to Malta now.
China will be cancelled for sure.
If she goes to Malta, i’ll have a bite of steak (life long vegetarian here)
The test will be whether she travels to Italy for that wedding.
She’ll be too sick to visit Malta, but will magically be well enough a week or two later to go to the wedding in Italy.
I never believed they were going to China. Thought JLP put that out to make William appear kingly.
I forgot about the wedding. Hmm…let’s see if she does go. I doubt she will. She hasn’t been to too many society weddings this year. Not like in previous years.
Too sick to work today, we’ll see if she’s well enough to jump around and take the attention away from the athletes at Invictus in a couple of days.
Y’all, I’m excited. I can’t help it!
I don’t understand the comments suggesting she got pregnant to avoid royal work. It is far easier, IMO, to shake a few hands in Malta for a few days than deal with severe morning sickness and 40 weeks of pregnancy. Pregnancy and caring for a one year old seem like much harder work than royal “work”.
You’re forgetting that 1) she hasn’t really worked in her life so cannot deal with the idea of working one hour a week and 2) the nannies take care of PGTips.
The nanny can’t be pregnant for you though. Pregnancy is different for each woman though, and each pregnancy is different. Perhaps some pregnancies are easier than working but mine sure wasn’t!
@ Courtney
Yes pregnancy is different for different women. However, Kate has the best help, the most resources, and doesn’t have to still work a 9 to 5 until she gives birth (which a lot of women have to). She can relax through her entire pregnancy. I have family members who live in developing countries and worked in the FIELDS right up until giving birth…in 100 degree weather.
And isn’t her ultimate royal “work” to provide and heir and spare? Which is what she’s doing…
Yup, she’s fulfilling her duties. She’s not a part of the royal family to bring in money. I don’t think they expected her to work anyways. I think they want her to show her face every now and then, do a bit of volunteer work, but mostly live an easy life and have lots of kids. I have a feeling she’ll get pregnancy again within 3 years.
I wonder if Kate will be tucked away like the Queen Mother. I read somewhere (?) that the Queen Mother did not like public appearances very much.
@Wolfpup
That’s an interesting thought. I wonder if Kate truly just doesn’t like public appearances much. Granted, she completely 100% married the wrong man if that’s the case, but I can see that. I can also see her being nothing more than a glorified brood mare, which is what I imagine was the original plan for Diana. Have babies, look pretty, show up when absolutely necessary, and never overshadow the heir [the last of which Diana clearly failed at]. I wonder if her distaste for public appearances was known before the engagement, and accepted [welcomed, even], because the powers that be knew she would never rock the boat, and they’re fine with her remaining tucked away?
@Dani
That’s an interesting theory. Kate’s been the anti-Diana so far. And that may be the way The Firm prefers it.
I don’t think anybody thinks she got pregnant to avoid work, it’s just that now she has another, convenient excuse not to work. It’s better PR to say she can’t ‘work’ due to HG than try to explain away the shopping trip/vacation to the islands in lieu of work.
Congratulations to Kate and William.
Several of The Royal press on twitter is saying the reveal of the pregnancy was strategically timed for today, to distract and gain favor for a variety of reasons.
I just wonder why they didn’t wait until at least Harry’s games were through, then announce. Or maybe they had to explain why Kate might not attend, so they announced.
Why was William allowing Kate to carry those big bags while he tended to the dog,knowing his wife was pregnant and getting sick ( that looks even ruder now on his part.)
Reporters are saying the Malta Visit is probably off, since she’s supposedly experiencing extremely aggravated morning sickness.
I have to say, some here called this months ago, they said Kate would get pregnant before the Malta trip and she may not go.
Anyway Congratulations to them.
Yeah, definitely rethinking that non-bag carrying thing. I know she’s not an invalid, but she has not been feeling well & carrying her bags could have been the LEAST he could do!
Will is a real gent. 😉
Pregnant or not, it’s really rude for a husband to let his wife carry all the bags. Call me old fashioned!
Geez, and shame on them. The Invictus games affect so many people – war is hell.
Jeeeeeeeeesus. Why announce so soon? I must be a pessimist, or maybe just a realist, but there is a reason we’re advised to wait until the first trimester is over.
I really don’t understand the need to announce it so early, or telling the world that she has severe morning sickness. That info isn’t really necessary (the last bit) for the public to know. I have zero interest in knowing that she is very nauseous. What does that matter – she’s pregnant, that often include morning sickness.
Tanna is putting it out that she’s due in Feb/March. Time will tell if he is simply guessing or really knows the truth on this one.
And William just told someone at his engagement today that she’ll be over morning sickness soon, so there goes that HG diagnosis 2nd time round.
Or maybe, like last time, they are hoping her HG subsides in second trimester and with the aid of medication. Although HG can continue throughout the whole pregnancy, for most women it lets up by the second trimester.
Actually, the last time, every single royal reporter confirmed that she was fine by christmas, having announced first week of December and been hospitalised for less than a week. This report didn’t make front page news, because everyone was in a snit about the pap stroll they organised for christmas day. It was repeated when Mustique holiday happened, but again few people took notice.
Further, with every subsequent reporting, the level of her morning sickness episode that required hospitalisation was downgraded such that HG at first announcement of pregnancy was bad morning sickness by birth date.
Last time, she was suffering so badly from HG that she managed to drive herself (or if i’m being charitable, security drove her) all the way to London despite the many hospitals along the way, walk into the hospital unaided and be diagnosed with HG that same afternoon.
Too many loose ends.
More control this time. This time, the message can be consistent. Unless one or the other let’s the cat out of the bag as they inevitably do.
Last time, she did only two engagements between her hospitalization and the middle of February. She didn’t go to the traditional Royal Christmas, and that was widely reported as being the result of her being ill. She didn’t go to Mustique until February, either. Her first trimester ended in early to mid January, so that schedule is entirely consistent with HG that–as is true of most cases of HG–lasted through the first trimester and then got better. Particularly if, again as reported, she was taking anti-nausea drugs and responded well to them.
And of course it makes sense that Kate would drive back to London rather than stop at a local hospital. If it was a life-or-death emergency, I’m sure they would have gone to the nearest hospital. But a day or two of constant vomiting wouldn’t be that type of emergency — it’s concerning, and something she needed treatment for, but not something that was going to kill her in the next hour. Most people who are able to decide prefer to be hospitalized near home, and in Kate’s case there were enormous security issues to consider. The London hospital has dealt with many Royal pregnancies and was prepared for this type of situation; whatever random hospital was nearest her parents’ house would not have been. Bucklebury isn’t on the other side of the globe — it’s just over an hour’s drive, so she likely sucked it up and threw up in a pail in the backseat so that she could have her own doctor and be close to home.
HG ranges in severity. The fact that one woman can’t get out of bed for six months and needs to be in hospital for most of that time doesn’t mean that’s true of all, or even most, women who suffer from it. Many women respond to the newer anti-nausea medication that has been developed to treat HG, and most see it improve in their second and third trimesters. Every time people act like it’s clearly fact that Kate didn’t have it, they’re equally insulting every other woman who suffers from HG only in her first trimester, or who is capable of walking from car to hospital, or who isn’t hospitalized for months, or who responds to the anti-nausea drugs.
Esti: all that is true, but I guess you didn’t see the reports that said that she was quite well by christmas despite the official line. When they went off to Mustique, some royal reporters mentioned it again, saying Kate had been well since christmas.
The pap stroll i’m talking about isn’t the usual Sandrigham one. It was the one organised for whatever church the Middletons and WK attended that Christmas – it caused quite the snit because William decided to threaten everyone hours after the pictures had been posted to several online UK newsites. Some papers wrote editorials on the matter calling WK out about it.
Regarding medical emergencies where royals are concerned, you underestimate the care that can suddenly become available at a local hospital. Sophie managed to have a life risking birth (she nearly died) at her local hospital.
Megan: i’m not near a computer, so I can’t post the appropriate twitter conversation. The comment William made was to someone waiting in the crowd, not to the gathered media. His comment to media is more neutral.
Esti
Wasn’t that the Christmas where until then all paps were told to lay off family private outings. Then Tanna took the shots of them walking to church with the Midds and there was an outcry.
And how do you counter Kate’s few hour drive to a hospital where Tanna was set up/ tipped off to get Kate entering? The palace didn’t even know Kate was ill or en route to the hospital until she checked in if memory serves.
Last, I knew a woman currently suffering with severe HG when Kate was admitted. Then Kate was released and looked fine. This woman considered it an insult HG was claimed. Let’s put it to rest. No HG has been mentioned. Only morning sickness.
I’m guessing Tanna knows something. Time will definitely tell. He’ll let something slip. I’m also joining your conspiracy bandwagon on the announcement. After reading the Royal twitters, I do believe the Scottish vote has them worried, so why not announce the pregnancy early. I doubt the Scots are going to be so overwhelmed with joy for another royal baby that they’ll stop wanting independence. That’s the height of arrogance.
William was not quoted as saying she will be over her morning sickness soon. Here is his actual quote:
‘She’s feeling ok thanks. It’s been a tricky few days..week or so. But obviously we’re immensely thrilled. It’s great news, early days. We’re hoping things settle down and she feels a bit better.’
I don’t for a moment believe she has HG. She also managed a lovey dovey dinner with Willy, ate, and had a wine spritzer. Amazing! *And* took the train back from Norfolk when that is a time you would think she’d want a luxury limo with a vomit basin.
The dinner and the train trip were over a week ago. It is quite possible that the HG (or extreme morning sickness) had not yet kicked in. As for the spritzer, as some of us mentioned above, it could have been dealcoholized wine – or even just mineral water in a wine glass. William did not have an alcoholic drink that night – just soda and lime. It is likely she had something similar, but the glass it was served in made in look like a spritzer.
I just have to ask, why do you Americans care about the Royal Family?
I live in England and nobody here ever talks about them or even cares, they literally are like nothing to us, except when they throw themselves parades, which we go to because we like parades.
Honestly I went about work all day and heard nothing, then I go home and log onto American websites and it’s like, EVERYWHERE. Calm down. You are not part of the commonwealth. It’s a good thing, be happy that you don’t have them dragging you down.
Americans aren’t the only ones who come to this site. Many Canadians come here as well and we are tied to the British remember? I think, it’s mostly media outlets that want to cram the British family down our throats, plus it’s fascinating that a real life Queen, Prince, Princess exist. LOL.
Lol, do Canadians really consider themselves are tied to the British? Most English wouldn’t even know Canada was in the commonwealth. That’s weird.
Anyway I just think people should be thankful that they don’t have to put up with the Royals, it’s embarrassing.
Yes Canada is part of the Commonwealth. Your Queen is on our money ! I’m just glad our tax dollars aren’t spent on your Royal Family though !
@Ollyholly….Canadians don’t “consider” themselves tied to the British. We are part of the Commonwealth and many of us 3rd or 4th generation Canadians come from English immigrants. Both my grandparents on my father’s side were born in England. I’m sure most British realize Canada is a commonwealth country. And as Word says, the Queen’s face is still on our money.
Some of us are Anglophiles. Sorry I find y’all so fascinating, but I do!
Americans are interested in the royal family because well, there was the war with King George (Revolutionary War), and many of our ancestors came from that the British Isles. My ancestors are from Wales, and they were royalist turned American. America’s constitution is fascinating because of the separation of church and state and royals. Besides all that, for me, there is a great deal of curiosity as to why these people are the bedrock of a class system. A class system is bewildering to an American, at least to me. We vote about nearly everything, and our Presidents only have power for several years (like the Prime Minister). Anyway, I’m endeavoring to understand this, as well as the mind-set of the people who are engaged in it.
History, even history in the making, is fascinating to me.
wolfpup – I am interested in the BRF for similar reasons. 1. My English heritage i.e. about 50% of my own DNA is from English Puritans who arrived Massachusetts Bay Colony before 1650 2. Many of my ancestors were American Revolutionary war soldiers. 3. Royalty as an institutionalized class system is beyond bewildering for me. I find it preternatural as I have posted here before. 4. Ollyholly stated they are an embarrassment for many Brits. From comments I read by UK citizens on news sites, opinions vary greatly. What surprises me the most are the royalists. They revere the royals and they will not tolerate anything but adulation for K&W.
For some Americans, watching the royal family is kind of like looking into the past – or maybe like watching some ridiculous spectacle, but with more hats than our standard award shows. There’s also the fact that some people just really like the romanticized idea of royalty. Either way, I’d rather read something about these two than anything printed about the Kardashian people.
I don’t think you should speak for ALL of England do you? .. and say things like “nobody here ever talks about them or even cares”..
Obvious some English people do care about them as does the English press. I read the papers in your country often and find that people in your country comment quite frequently about them so maybe YOU don’t read the papers in your own country or know anyone over there very well or aren’t really English or you would know that.
Here’s today’s paper in case you’re not familiar how to find one of the oldest English publications in the world they seem to care a great deal about them. I believe the London Times ran a story too but you can find that one yourself. Cheers or whatever you should chill out…http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2747642/Prince-Harry-reacts-Prince-William-Kates-royal-baby-news.html
Annnnd here’s the answer to why they (Will) didn’t flip over the pictures from last week.
There goes Malta and China…
Congrats to them.
Wills needs to shave his head and throw on a pair of sexy eyeglasses–he’ll get all that lost hotness back.
And congrats to the young couple!
Congrats to them. Beautiful couple and Prince George is adorable. I’m not surprised she’s pregnant again so soon. Their babies will barely be two years apart.
It will be interesting to see how this impacts news of the long-delayed Jacintha Saldanha inquest, set for the end of this week.
interesting
I haven’t read all the comments, but I have to say … how much of horrible husband William is for not carrying her bag in those photos last week (of them walking through the train station). Chivalry is well and truly dead in that relationship.
If you look at those pictures, Kate is mostly using the bags to hide behind. Probably did it on purpose if she feels like she was starting to show and wasn’t quite ready to announce.
Kate is carrying those big bags, while William walked the dog Lupo.
William came off as rather rude he could have taken one of those bags.
The baseball cap and head down was how she shielded her eyes.
She was carrying those big bags and William looked like he was more concerned with Lupo.
He’s not a warm person. IMO He only comes out and plays nice to the press or public when it suits an agenda for him or he’s forced out in some way.
I wish them the best, but I’m not one of those people who hates her because she married a future king. Hope the next baby is as cute as little George.
Here it is, the obligatory jelli hater comment. Knew it had to be here somewhere.
Just because someone disagrees with her or disapproves of some of her actions doesn’t mean they hate her. And there are many legitimate complaints about her that stem from her behavior, not from people being jealous of her.
And there are plenty which are simply gratuitous shots. Half the criticisms here are either make-up or clothing related; it’s hard to imagine a world where you could even remotely call those behavior related. “Her choices are bad and I don’t like them” is hardly legitimate criticism.
You’re absolutely right. There are silly, petty and untrue criticisms of her on here, too, often. I happen to think people are too hard on her about a lot of things. I was only trying to say that it’s not fair to claim that the only only reason a person would ever criticize her is because they are jealous of her. I just don’t happen to believe that.
I’m prepared to see some really unattractive maternity wear in the coming months, that is if she leaves the house(s).
I was just talking to my mother about Kate and when she would get pregnant again, and we both agreed it would be soon. The throne needs to be secured, I wouldn’t be surprised if she had at least four children, although I think she will be over it by the second one.
The throne is well and truly secured already.
Indeed! What an anachronistic turn of phrase too.
I blame Jonathan Rhys-Myers.
😉
Congrats! I hope it’s a girl!
Hopefully she will see what is so obvious to the Celebitchy royaloonies, she looks so much better with some meat on her bones. Lets hope she doesnt lose all the weight after baby
Why overshadow Harry’s major accomplishment of the Invictus Games?? I suppose she timed it brilliantly to get out of the only legitimate work scheduled for this month but it doesn’t sound as though they actually needed to announce it. I used to have high hopes for Kate working hard for charity, silly me.
I’m curious to see George interact with a sibling. I wish them a healthy baby.
Congrats to the Cambridges!
I’m glad Kate has developed a tough skin from her years of dating and being married to William, because some of these responses from various blogs and boards have been like “whoa”. The public can be pretty harsh so I’m glad it’s on record from her that she only cares about William’s opinion.
I hope this means Harry will go to Malta. Or is it possible William can go…you know…on loan from his ambulance rescuing job *side-eye*. Let me stop, I’m actually happy for them. But I am also seriously hoping this means we’ll see Harry in Malta.
Kate has always had tough skin IMO. She dug her heels in PW and stayed the course until she closed the deal, which took a decade. To pursue William the way she did, put up with anything he put out. To go back after being publicly dumped, humiliated by his friends. Kate is a person who can be quite HARD when it comes to Keeping Her Eyes on the Prize.
Not a big surprise, honestly. A lot of couples like to have their kids back to back, especially if they start a little later. I do think it helps bond the kids – my sister and I (two years removed) are definitely closer than my brother and I (five years removed).
Have to say…Will has definitely lost the hotness for me. I was more of a Harry girl to start with, but he’s definitely aging into his father’s features and not in a good way.
I have a friend who have kids who are 14 months apart. She didn’t plan it that way she was told that you couldn’t get pregnant while you were breast feeding by her friends and mother.This was many many years ago. So she was really surprised to find out that she was and her first response to finding out was to call her mother and friends to say that was bullsh**!
I guess out goes the plan for Kate to cook for 30 people beef wellingtons, fish pies, & Eton Mess for Harry’s b-day party. Though not like she was ever going to do that anyways, at least not by herself or maybe not even at all.
I wonder how many more nannies she’s going to hire.
ROFL!!!! It’s like a fairy tale of possibility- all the things she could be doing- like going to China, Malta, cooking beef Wellington for 30 people. But it rarely if ever happens. Darn all those obstacles to being that dream princess!
To those saying she’s going to “use” her pregnancy to get out of working: I’m pretty sure making babies is her number one job.
Both the jobs of reproducing to create heirs (this is monarchy after all), and fulfilling work that makes the British Monarchy relevant and not seen as leeches, are equally important jobs. She is failing in the latter by her own choice.
This HG debate is silly. If Kate were well enough to go on vacation she is well enough to work. And if she is too sick to accompany William to events then she is too sick to carry his damn luggage, which he apparently was fine with her doing in that candid rail trip a few days ago. End of. We know her patterns and the track record of Will and Kate. It’s complete hogwash.
Celebitchy called this a couple months ago, saying she was holding herself a certain way, had a certain posture… that it was only a speculative guess. Pretty impressive call.
wills is never going to be outdone by his wife, no matter who she is
anyone else irritated by the articles saying “kate middleton” is pregnant. i dont know why but it irritates me.
In the morning the top headline was “Diana phoned Camilla and said: ‘I sent someone to kill you”… a few hours later Kate´s pregnancy was announced and made headlines.
Perfect to distract from Harry´s b-day, his Invictus Games and the new book about how Diana threatened Camilla.
the good thing about hyperemesis gravidarum is that it’s a little less severe with each successive pregnancy. Unfortunately, if you have it so bad that you need to be admitted, you probably have to be a Duggar before you have a pregnancy without needing some zofran to get you through
Congrats to the family on their new baby, a new baby is always a blessing, and i feel for Kate on her morning sickness problem, having said that, i do feel that the timing for the announcement puts Harry’s hard work to the side PR wise, I’m sure harry is happy with the news i mean is his family and he loves them and I’m sure he’ll continue to work hard to promote the invictus games, but it does take away focus media wise and i cant help but think that, that was Williams intention considering how the public seems to be of a more favorable opinion towards harry than will these days.
The British Kardashians. Famous for being famous.
With smaller asses. Sorry I couldn’t resist.
I said she was pregnant! Now I bet she’s canceling the Malta trip (which I think is actually smart if she’s sick and going alone) and will have a girl this time. I do think that Kate & Will are actually really good parents. So congrats! I also feel bad for Kate. Throwing up is gross and feels awful.
The British reporters have already said today that the Malta Trip is probably off.
Not being English, I can’t squee with joy over the news, but I will say that I completely feel her pain over the extreme morning sickness. The hospital was my good friend during my first pregnancy, and while their were less visits to doctors and the hospital with my second, it was still horrible.
I hope she is feeling better soon.
I think people don’t understand that most royal duties are not listed to the public and that she does more work than people think. I’ve never gotten the hate for this couple. They both work hard and both appear to be a sweet happy couple. Imo I think I Americans expect everything they do to be made public, that is NOT how monarchies work, and we in the Commonwealth know that so the anti-Kate thing seems mainly to be an American thing. Kate does far more work than you realise, she is not doing nothing just because you personally don’t know what she does.
These duties ARE listed in the court circulars and are made public. Kate does very little and it has been confirmed by royal correspondents that this is on her own initiative. If she were doing more they would be releasing it to counteract the overwhelming negative publicity about her lack of work. As it is they have to rely on pregnancy announcements to do that.
I knew it! I think it’s a good idea to have siblings so close. They will need each other to survive all the crazy royals and little George is too young to be jealous.
Wow, these comments were all over the place! I didn’t know someone deemed so “boring” could generate so many haters. Congrats Kate & William, may you have another healthy-happy-chubby cheeked baby 🙂
Someone above called Kate a broodmare.
Because she is pregnant again.
I always thought a woman was more fertile right after pregnancy. The age between George and the ‘BoyGirl to be’ is fine for siblings.
Kate may be boring, dress boring, do nothing, but now she is attacked because she is PREGNANT??
What does this girl have to do to please you guys. Win the Nobel Peace Prize?
I have never posted here before but from reading this site and comments for sometime now I am sure my opinion won’t be very welcomed. It seems like there are a lot of Kate “haters” out there. I guess I was taught not to judge others so much but instead to worry about myself ( making sure I was a good person). I doubt anyone out there truly has even the faintest idea what it is like to live in a fish bowl and have every decision you ever made dissected and criticized. I think it is truly remarkable that people are guessing as to why Kate has decided to get pregnant now. It could just possibly be that her and William want a family a family and love children couldn’t it? After all she is in her 30’s and there are no guarantees that getting pregnant will just happen if they wait. I got pregnant very easy with my first child but also had HG for the entire nine months. I vomited 30 times a day. It was very difficult and I remember people saying ” it is just morning sickness” eat crackers and drink ginger ale. But there is so much more to it than that. It was a constant struggle to eat and gain weight. My amniotic fluid was always low and I needed constant ultrasounds to monitor the baby. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. So to say she is ” using this or her pregnancy” to get out of work is very seems very harsh. And besides as all you haters constantly point out, she never works anyways. So why does she need an excuse now? I was unable to have anymore biological children, so I say CONGRATULATIONS to them.
Besides if Kate worked tirelessly and did endless charity work then she would be a horrible Mother for not spending more time with PG. Remember when the Queen left Prince Charles for an extended royal tour and upon her return she greeted him with a hand shake? I think most rational people would agree that is not what is best for a child. And remember Kate was not born into this “job” and while she endlessly waited fir William to propose she wasn’t allowed to do this type of work. I think she is gradually getting her feet wet so she can get better at representing the royal family. The work and tours she has done have been met with constant negativity. Her clothed are wrong, her eye liner is bad, her hair is too long. Who can blame her for limiting herself to such negativity. Besides I think she is trying to find a balance of motherhood and work. To me William and Kate prioritize their marriage. That is how it should be. They need time together as husband and wife and as a family. This marriage can’ t fail, the royal family has made that very clear. Remember Diana didn’t do as much charity work when she was first married or when her boys were young. Being royal has its privledges and sacrifices. But giving up your happiness and some tiny resemblance to normalicy shouln’t be one of them.
Whatever the label, I’m sure Kate is feeling unpredictably awful right now. Her only job for the next few months is to carry the spare safely to birth. As for the rest- I get tired of the twofer mentality when it comes to royalty, politicians, and company execs. It generally applies only to women. We need to get over it. William was born into a role that gives him more perks if he acts royal, but he would be rich without it. If anything destroys the monarchy, it will be these crazy expectations for both birthright royals and their wives.
As for comparisons between Kate and Kim Kardashian- the reason we doubt Kim spends much time with Nori is because of the weird body language for both Kim and Nori in all the pictures and videos. Kate and George show quite normal body language for a mother and baby. So she’s not only spending enough time with him, but she’s doing things that bond him to her. Yes, he also feels bonded to nannies. If he didn’t, they should be fired. Kate looks like a normal mom lookig at her baby also.
But poor Nori does not display that bonding behavior with either parent, and both parents show lack of normal behavior around her. She gets perched on a knee or carried for a photo op. Kanye might become more attached as time goes on, but there is something seriously wrong with Kim. I don’t mean evil but rather something is broken. She does not respond to Nori normally but only tries to pretend for the cameras. Nori doesn’t engage with her. At first I wondered if Nori had developmental issues, but other pics of her alone show normal baby behavior. So I think Nori can and does bond properly with others in her life, such as nannies, Kanye’s aunt, Kim’s sisters. But at the moment, Kim is just somebody who inexplicably separates her from her aunt or nanny periodically while cameras are on. That’s not to slam Kim, but to point out the depth of the problem. I don’t know how fixable Kim’s problems are, but I hope someone tries at some point. She doesn’t seem like a happy person; her non-relationship with Nori is a symptom of the disease..
Many here have followed Kate for over a decade and know and remember details on her history that have been documented.
Many of the posters are well informed and entitled to their opinions.
P.S. Did anyone see the comment Harry made about William. I wonder how much William complained with the last pregnancy and I recall his baby won’t stop crying or cries a lot complaints.v Harry said Something like he’s looking forward to watching William suffer again? All I could think was Wow, William must be doing some major complaining behind the scenes to Harry!
Quote: “Pr..Harry said Kate’s pregnancy is very exciting news and he can’t wait to see his brother Suffer more.”
This was a direct quote Harry made yesterday.