Benedict Cumberbatch: Sophie ‘is a helpful tool, she’s a helpful asset’

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So much Otter. I can’t even. I guess this means the brief lull of Cumbergossip over the holidays couldn’t last forever. Incidentally, Benedict Cumberbatch ended up confirming a story I didn’t believe: he and Sophie spent New Year’s in the Caribbean. I think he went to Scotland to spend time with her family around Christmas, then they flew to some Caribbean island for NYE. Otters do love the water. Anyway, while Bendy was in Palm Springs, he spoke to the Wall Street Journal. The WSJ even points out that they had to edit the crap out of these quotes because Bendy can talk and talk and talk. You can read the full WSJ piece here. Some highlights:

Going without coffee during his Caribbean holiday: “I’ve just had a first coffee since my holiday. I don’t know if you ever decaffed for awhile, because when you have it again, it’s pretty strong. It’s a very, very strong drug we drink in the morning.”

Filming on Richard III: “They’re [still] filming in Northumberland, freezing their asses off, going at it medieval style with broad swords and chainmail [armor] and horses, smoke and mud. I’m in an SUV moving my way down to Palm Springs! But I paid my dues.”

On privacy versus making art for the people: “I think it’s very important to do that, to remain true to your nature. Just to be able to have some space that is your own. The more you work, you’re in the public focus, but that’s obviously what our work’s about in a generalized way. We need an audience as actors, doing this kind of art…”

Sophie is so important to him: “Also, I’ve got things that are more important for me going on now in my life. I’m sitting next to one of them right now, my fiancée [Sophie Hunter] – she’s a helpful tool [laughs]. I said that to make her laugh. She’s a helpful asset! She’s a lot more than that. But it’s brilliant to have something that I think is more important than myself in my life to focus away from myself, you know what I mean? That brings me into a good space.”

Fear of failure: “I think the fear of failure is a really powerful motivator. That really is a tool [laughs], because there are moments when you can get completely and utterly blocked. Then you have to step away from the problem…You’re right, that fear is always there. I stepped towards it a lot last year in particular with all sorts of things. I mean, little things. I presented at an awards ceremony, I had never done that before. I did quite a few things where I was like, “Christ, I’ve never done this before, and you’re 38, what the hell are you doing?” I got a real kick out of taking risks.

Playing the “dark arts” part of Doctor Strange: “I’m very excited about that spiritual dimension, obviously. It’s something that’s been a huge part of my life….I meditate a lot. That’s a huge tool in trying to calm myself, get away from the crazy circus of it all, have a focused mind as well as be a kinder, considerate person in the world. I took a lot of stuff away from my experience in Darjeeling, West Bengal, right at the Nepali border. It was Tibetan Buddhist monks in a converted Nepali house in India, with a view of Bhutan. It was a profoundly formative experience at a very young age. It’s something I’ve tried to keep in my life. It features already.

[From The Wall Street Journal]

He also talks at great length about Richard III and what new historical records show and whether he’s vaguely related to Richard III. Which is true, genealogists claim Bendy is 16th cousins with Richard III, because I guess Richard III was having sex with otters (it was a different time, people). As for the mention of Sophie… the impression I’m getting is that Bendy is actually trying to convince himself that this is what he wants. A wife, a baby, a partner, someone to come home to. But is he really like that?

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  1. jen says:

    How romantic to have your fiancé refer to u as a ‘useful tool’

    • Ingrid says:

      Oh, but she is just that. A tool. For his Oscar campaign, you know.

    • mia girl says:

      I reserve “helpful tool” for those few times Ashton Kutcher fixes my noisy AC or broken refrigerator.

    • Erinn says:

      I kind of am starting to think he’s a giant tool. He’s got a charming voice, and he seems intelligent, but he’s coming across as what MAYBE he always has been. An arrogant dude who is able to play up the charming to win over people. Talented actor for sure. And I could listen to him talk for a very long time. But at the end of the day, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that maybe the Benedict that everyone who loved/loves him fell for was just another role. He is, after all an amazing actor.

      • littlestar says:

        YEP! Totally agree Erinn, this guy has a beautiful voice but he is a snob. Something is up with him, I just can’t put my finger on it though, maybe he is pulling the wool over everyone’s eyes?

      • Jac says:

        Couldn’t agree more, Erinn. He’s the tool.

      • Erinn says:

        I really think that’s it. Because it seems to have just gotten worse in recent months. And I don’t think it’s all linked to the engagement. I don’t think Sophie is making him miserable. I think he’s just been putting on a good act, and has put his guard down. Everyone says how terrible Sophie is, and how he couldn’t possibly be happy. But what if he is? What if so-called terrible, evil smug Sophie is exactly the kind of person he’s attracted to because it meshes with his personality well.

      • Aeltri says:

        Oh he ain’t happy with her, the candid body language, dead eyes etc. don’t lie. No one can keep up an act 24/7. He was strong armed into this mess, I am sure of it. BC is a thirsty fool who like many newcomers to fame didn’t know how faustian Hollywood bargains really are. I do agree with Erinn with regards to BC having a very unpleasant side to his personality. Given the stress he’s under, it’s now starting to show more than ever.

        Notice how he now covers his face while he’s in the car riding back from Setlock. I mean really? He didn’t care about ‘overexposure’ before! I think he’s reeling from the media backlash of the last few days. More people are now starting to ridicule him and SH openly, I’d probably hide too. Oh wait…I wouldn’t because I’d never wh*re out my personal life like he has! My dignity and integrity are worth more to me than any stupid award.

    • OhDear says:

      I thought he was joking when he said that: “Also, I’ve got things that are more important for me going on now in my life. I’m sitting next to one of them right now, my fiancée [Sophie Hunter] – she’s a helpful tool [laughs]. I said that to make her laugh. She’s a helpful asset! She’s a lot more than that…”

      (Still sounds a bit self-obsessed, though.)

      • Lindy79 says:

        I get that he was kidding but it’s still a really really odd and almost dehumaizing word to use to describe your fiancee of 2 months who you are so crazy about, you proposed after only 5 months.
        He also never uses her name, only “my fiancee” and “her/she”, he’s all about the me,myself and I as usual. Every time he speaks about her or poses with her, its so…..detached.

        I’ve always loved his bitchy foot in mouthness but since last August or thereabouts it’s taken a turn in a different direction.

      • **sighs** says:

        A bit? They’re both tools….she needs to go away and he needs to.stop.talking.

      • j says:

        it’s a joke, he was next to her and it’s a financial mag (tools and assets). idk what the state of their relationship is though. could be heck in a handbasket, not easy to navigate in a public space

        generally speaking, actors speak about themselves in interviews, like that is the point lol

      • Kat says:

        J, it’s a bit of a stretch to say he said that because he was talking to a financial paper.
        And most people who aren’t using their relationships for publicity finder it easier to navigate. Just act natural and normal and stop pulling lame publicity stunts. It’s not rocket science. He’s PUT this relationship in the public space.

        Erm, yes actors speak about themselves in interviews, but after talking about heir need for privacy, they don’t usually feel the need to crowbar in the ‘SO’ with comments that range from odd to the completely bizarre.

      • j says:

        @kat

        ill give you tool, but the asset joke, definitely financial lol

        im saying the whole thing could be a right mess in private tho, and its spilling over in public. im not one of those people who think we know whats going on entirely though

      • Aeltri says:

        Oh, clever BC with your puns. It is not acceptable to make ‘jokes’ at the expense of another, especially not your SO. He was being passive-aggressive, it was a thinly-veiled barb directed at SH so if she was there and laughed she IS a tool (an idiot).

    • MissMary says:

      She’s a tool, like a prop. Makes sense. *side eyes BC and HW so effing hard*

    • Janet says:

      Reminds me of “Jane Eyre” when Jane says who wants to be married to a man who considers his wife only a useful tool?

      What a jerk.

    • phlyfiremama says:

      Is she a wrench or something, for dogs sake?! Maybe he mixed up wench and wrench??

    • Someonestolemyname says:

      Congrats to the couple on the Pregnancy!
      So sweet.

      • Kat says:

        Oh isn’t it?! So, SO sweet. Only dating a matter of days and yet seeing the silver lining! .. Hang on?! I’ve got an Oscar campaign coming up! This couldn’t be better timed!
        Ding! Cue the red carpet parade in front of photographers to get the rumour mill churning and drag out as much publicity as we can from it. But DO remember to hold a crappy little bag at stomach level at all times because then people will think we are all private and that.. Keep smiling at the flashbulbs and give it all you’ve got though. Oh and stick the stomach out. Don’t forget that.
        Oh, it warms the cockles of my heart, it surely does. It’s like Disney.

  2. Eleonor says:

    a screw gun is a helpful tool.

  3. Francesca says:

    Why I otter… Punch him in his narcissistic throat. He is starting to sound pathologically self obsessed. Relationships are as much about giving as receiving. Ugh.

    • MtnRunner says:

      Better yet, kick him in his narcissistic balls. With him, it’s 100% about Ben. ALL THE DAMN TIME.

      • Aeltri says:

        If you want to do anything to BC’s balls you’ll have to ask Harvey Weinstein for them…

        I CALLED it YEARS ago. When everyone was going “Ain’t BC sweet?” I was all “Um, NO.” He’s an exceptionally talented actor with a great voice…unfortunately, he’s also a pretentious, self-absorbed twat of the highest order.

        Examples? Here are few: He expects Wanda to call HIM on Mother’s Day. At a bar in Berlin he took off his coat and it nearly fell on the floor because he expected Karon to catch it for him. He was already in a relationship with SH and was openly hitting on some dude’s gf at TIFF. The list goes on and on…

      • **sighs** says:

        Hitting on someone’S girl at TIFF? Do tell, I didn’t hear about this…

      • KT says:

        I’m sure he can be at times, Aeltri, like most of us. Nothing you posted is verifiable-for example, we don’t know the circumstances of his mother’s phone habits and daily routine-or a capital offense.

        Generally speaking, I go by coworkers, and he passes there.

        My money is on him being unable to do what is required for a campaign properly.

  4. Abbott says:

    Maybe he found his otter half? Or maybe they’ll drift apart and agree to see otter people? Who knows!

    But I hope they surprise us all and it’s a baby TRex. I’m running otter jokes.

  5. maria says:

    Oh my god, why doesn’t he just stop talking about her? They edited those quotes and that’s the best thing he said? Christ.

  6. Mia4S says:

    Mmmmmm, nothing gets me hotter than when a man calls me a helpful tool and asset! Hot!! 😉

    • Just Here says:

      I wonder if he ever referred to his parents or friends or Adam or his ex Olivia as a ‘tool’ before.

      What a crass joke. So glad my SO doesn’t talk about me like that!

  7. silken_floss says:

    If my hunny bunny refered to me as an “helpful asset”, I’d karate chop him in the throat :/

  8. Jaderu says:

    Otters will roll around on the ground to see if they’re compatible and should mate. If it all works out hunky dory then the male otter will bite the female on the nose. Sort of a love bite, if you will. After the bite on the shnozz GO signal, they jump in the water and do it till they’re exhausted and then they each take a puff off an Ecig.
    And now vee dance
    The End.

  9. Lindy79 says:

    Someone yesterday tried to say that WSJ had in fact used the word tool in their question…they did not. So, there you go.

    “At the height of his genius, Alan Turing worked in secrecy. As an actor who is very much in the public eye, how do you negotiate that creative need for privacy with being scrutinized all the time?”

    He also uses it later when talking about meditation

    • Ingrid says:

      And before anyone says the question was edited, how do you fit the word tool in that?

      This is the only option:”…how do you negotiate that creative need for privacy with being scrutinized all the time? Tool.”

      • Lindy79 says:

        I said it yesterday but if Mr Lindy referred to me as a tool or an asset in work or a similar situation he’d get scissor kicked right in *his* tool.

        There was also ZERO need to bring her up as a response to that question. He answered it, then went into another paragraph about her.

      • MissMary says:

        I’ve been with my SO a long time now and we’re very comfortable with one another, jokingly calling one another teasing names in private, but if they called me a tool and an asset in a public forum esp in relation to their work, I’d be snarling and packing their bags because I wouldn’t be able to look at them without smacking them for a while.

      • j says:

        @ingrid: IDK if it was edited or not, but simply ‘Any tools?’ at the end would work.

    • Maggie says:

      From the article:

      “Speakeasy talked with Cumberbatch about “The Imitation Game,” his various future projects, and the tools he uses to stay calm and “get away from the crazy circus of it all.” Below, an edited transcript.”

      So the “tools” he uses to stay calm and get away from the crazy circus was the focus of many of the questions and the article.

      It was a joke about Sophie. She was in the car with him (the interview was done over the phone) and he was indicating that his relationship is one of the things that keeps him grounded.
      ” But it’s brilliant to have something that I think is more important than myself in my life to focus away from myself, you know what I mean? That brings me into a good space.”

      And he used the word tool as a joke to make her laugh.

      The whole interview is excellent by the way.

      • Kat says:

        Maggie,

        Give it up. That still doesn’t prove that the interviewer used the word ‘tool’ and who cares anyway? Why are you so desperate to try and prove it?
        ‘He said it to make her laugh’. Yes, we read that for ourselves, thanks, but a lot of us don’t believe all his crap we’re reading verbatim.
        If you want to do something constructive, how about going back to imdb and questioning the insane person claiming that gossip blogs are ‘dangerous’
        The delusion and obsession over there is chilling. And as much as as you seem to want to spread that here, it ain’t gonna happen.

        Also, SH wasn’t in the car with him on the way to the festival.

      • Felice says:

        What about asset then? Is she property?

        You are clearly the context master.

      • Lucinda says:

        I’m no huge fan of the guy one way or the other but Maggie’s explanation makes a lot of sense. If he was in the car and giving the interview over the phone, that would certainly explain why he clarified that he said that to make Sophie laugh. If the interviewer was asking about tools he used to stay calm (which is not a strange wording at all imo), then the joke makes complete sense. It’s a joke. Lighten up.

  10. kri says:

    I am so saaaaaad. Sad because..he is starting to sound like GOOP, and I can’t take it anymore! Where is the sweet BC I saw in that with Tom Hardy when they were filming “Stuart”…dammit. I just hope Weinstein doesn’t get his hooks into (as @Sixer calls him) The Bloke. Jesus, if he starts spouting off about placenta and curated jorts, I will cry.

    • Ingrid says:

      Waiting for his conscious uncoupling.

    • EscapedConvent says:

      Hmmm….you bring up a good point with the jorts. There will be a new Jorts Season soon, and those jorts aren’t going to curate themselves. But this year, they will be 800 dollars a pair, and will have floral trim.

    • maria says:

      *snort* I’m not sure it’s that bad at the moment, but it certainly is a lot of ME ME ME I I I

      does anyone ask him about the movie and Turing? Thrown over board once again. Poor Turing.

      • EscapedConvent says:

        He might not need Alan Turing as much now. A genealogist has just announced that Cumby is related to Richard III (third cousin, 16 times removed).

        Actually, it’s rumored that he is also related to Alan Turing. And one of the Henrys. If this continues, the Windsors will just have to hand him the Throne of England and call it a day.

        It also would not surprise me if he discovers he is a descendant of Hamlet. ;-}

    • MtnRunner says:

      “I just hope Weinstein doesn’t get his hooks into (as @Sixer calls him) The Bloke. Jesus, if he starts spouting off about placenta and curated jorts, I will cry.”

      I feel the same about Hiddles. God help us all if he prostitutes himself to that horrible man. My status as a Dragonfly will be in serious jeopardy.

  11. Maria says:

    i think he unvoluntarily showed her purpose. she IS a useful tool. engagement with an attractive partner brings votes for the Oscar.

  12. Katey says:

    Maybe not romantic, but I wouldn’t be upset at being called a “helpful asset”.

    On the other hand, this is what passes for news when you post about a very boring guy who says very boring things every single day.

  13. 'P'enny says:

    why has he given up coffee? [I’m not really reading the whole article] he gave up fags and now coffee? is this in support of her pregnancy? because you can only have one coffee a day? because I am pretty sure you can get coffee in Caribbean? its not all pineapple juice?

    as for the spiritual stuff of Dr Strange? what has he been smoking or not as the case officially maybe? He does realise he is in a Marvel movie not joining Jefferson Airplane.

    • LolaBones says:

      Yes, its strange saying he gave up coffee while in the caribbean. We have plenty of coffee, and good one. I just thought he was being a snob, it sounds he kept drinking it when he made it back home or wherever he went.

    • **sighs** says:

      I think he’s joining Jefferson starship..

    • Lilacflowers says:

      Oh God, Grace Slick would swallow him whole

    • Veronica says:

      Might have given it up to “detox.” Your body will eventually develop a tolerance for it, so giving it up for awhile will readjust your reaction to it.

    • icerose says:

      Well some one has already elevated Marvel with his Shakespeare spin so he cannot use that-and a great actor with an Oscar nomination has to have a peg to hang his Marvel comic book film publicity spin

    • gg says:

      No way did he give up fags, check out the video of him on the rc in Palm Springs, he is chewing the hell outta that nicotine gum. Also at Heathrow. If he had given up….three months ago?…..he would not be needing the gum anymore.

  14. vv007 says:

    I am so sick of hearing about Sophie. Every time I open up CB now I am guaranteed at least one Cumberbatch story where of course Sophie is featured! lol Do not care.

  15. Kiddo says:

    Fear of failure=tool, Sophie=tool, Meditation=tool, Fear of mediation failure=Sophie?

    Someone check my math, I’ve had too many Comet Sophies whilst painting my masterpiece artwork of “Bulldogs and Scweddy balls with eyeliner, playing poker” on a velvet canvas.

    • Jaderu says:

      You’re math is correct. Bendy tried to do a Full Lotus while meditating and accidently fell on Sophie and she got all pregnantated and they had to get engagematized.

      • PunkyMomma says:

        You’re still recovering from yesterday’s Sarah Palin thread, aren’t you my dear? Here – have a mimosa.

    • PunkyMomma says:

      Otter tools – I cant help but feel there’s a hidden message Benny’s trying to send. Is he clicking his heels three times while saying “tools, tools, tools” and an Oscar appears? Otter Tools – an anagram? All I could get is Loser Otto? Who’s Otto? Is Otto an Otter? Where’s Sherlock when I need him? Oh the angst! (Where’s my mimosa?)

      • Jaderu says:

        No more mimosas. I used up all the sparkling wine trying to see if the pigmentation and age cracks in Kiddo’s Scweddy ball masterpiece were authentic.
        Conclusion.
        Forgery.

      • PunkyMomma says:

        Bahaha! (Your use of “age cracks” in conjunction with “Schweddy ball” is nothing short of genius!) I bow to you, Jaderu

      • icerose says:

        all I get is an otter stool which coupled with “sometimes I get completely and utterly blocked” is not a conversation I wish him to pursue.
        But how about it is otter nick name for his not so secret ” totally outstanding orgasmic love support “TOOLS
        or perhaps
        stool pigeon to his otter humour.

      • PunkyMomma says:

        (Whispers – the TOOLS acronym could be a secret love message to Comet Sophie – well done, icerose )

      • Aeltri says:

        It’s L-Otto. As in BC’s got more chances of winning that than wresting the Oscar from Michael Keaton. TBH things are so cattywampus right now that I don’t think the Academy is going to be all that impressed. BC needs to shift his starship to reverse before it flies straight into the Kardashian Event Horizon.

  16. epiphany says:

    Yeah, so is a crescent wrench.
    Why do I think this entire relationship is phony?

  17. littlestar says:

    SO ROMANTIC. SO THOUGHTFUL. SO MUCH IN LOVE.

    Anyway, I think this guy is going to kill any kind of love the public has for him with his over-saturation in the media the past few months.

    • epiphany says:

      PT Barnum maintained that the way to keep the public’s attention – “always keep ’em wanting more.”

    • briargal says:

      @littlestar–Please say this is true! Maybe he’ll just fade away into the sunset! Be gone, Bendy!!! All these people getting so hot for someone who is soooo NOT!!

  18. Kim1 says:

    I can’t wait to see their baby

  19. Felice says:

    Sherlockians are pissed. She went to the set….for 10 minutes.

    • InvaderTak says:

      They need to get over it. When is there going to be a serious discussion about that kind of attitude? It’s gotten out of hand. And I don’t think BC has it worse than say, RPatz.

    • Ingrid says:

      Loved BC’s both product placements: fiancee and Dunlop (umbrella). Good PR boy.

      • Felice says:

        She appears to have left before the actual paps arrived. Also it’s not because she’s “dating” him, it’s because Sherlockians really don’t like anything messing with that show.

    • Aeltri says:

      For all of 10 minutes…WHY? To share her Pot Noodles with him? To cheer him up with miming? To make sure he wasn’t fooling around with an extra? Oh that’s right, just long enough to get papped…ugh, I can’t with this avant-garde fameho. According to CDaN that ain’t the only type of ho’ing she done either!

  20. Gracie says:

    The first picture is so awful my eyes hurt.

  21. Annoys Me Too But... says:

    Maybe he was teasing her … he was on the phone and she was sitting nearby. Maybe they’re just having a few laughs about the Oscar campaign?

    It could be they think they’re so smart that they don’t realize how sarcasm will come across.

    Dumbing down a bit never hurt the public image.

    Otherwise … good luck to her; he’s very self-absorbed.

  22. Jan Harf says:

    Ahhhhhhhhhhh- everything he says lately makes me queasy. And I will not back down- she needs so much help in the hair department. She is the opposite of elegant or polished and I do believe that’s the look she is aiming for.

    • Esmerelda says:

      I think the scruffy style is a kind of uber-posh marker, “…we never purchased a looking glass, we make do with the Roman bronze mirror great-uncle Alphard brought back from his amateur excavation of the Domus Aurea”

    • Aeltri says:

      The general public couldn’t handle the regalness of an updo.

  23. Kat says:

    What the hell is up with her arse in that first pic?

    • Gracie says:

      Those shoes must be hell to stand on. Or she’s sticking it out for different reasons. Either way, awful picture. Too much WonderGlow or Becca Skin Perfector used on her face and he looks like he’s suppressing a yawn or trying to loosen something stuck to the back of his teeth.

    • lorraine says:

      The reason her arse is sticking out, is because she’s trying to look pregnant, the little madam is playing games with everyone, & i wish she’d stop it. But i get the feeling they are both using each other, she’s using him for fame & he’s using her for babies, but there’s no chemistry between them , she always looks so bloody cold .

  24. **sighs** says:

    Actually the article never says “they” went on a holiday. It says he came back from “his” holiday, and he says “my” holiday. No actual mention of her or them. So you really don’t know if she was there or not. I’m sure you’re supposed to think so…..

  25. Lilacflowers says:

    A tool. An asset. Something. Not someone. Something. Words of love from the epicenter of epicene equines.

  26. scarf girl says:

    It is Oscar time. I lean toward the Fox Mulder philosophy: trust no one. God, I never thought he would be worse than Anne Hathaway. But he is so thirsty it is just off putting.

  27. OTHER RENEE says:

    I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to accept that maybe he met the right woman, fell in love and wants to marry her and have someone special to come home to. Mr. Other Renee and I were engaged within months of meeting and are really happy together. When you meet the right person, you just know. And if you’re the marrying kind, you get married.

    • **sighs** says:

      Did you look like you wanted to rip off your own face and slink into blubbering pile of goo in his presence immediately after you got engaged?

      • Lindy79 says:

        Thanks **sighs**, I just made a really loud indeterminable noise and had to walk away from my desk.

      • OTHER RENEE says:

        They’re BRITISH! Nuf said.

      • Lindy79 says:

        I’m IRISH, how am I meant to act? Because I think I might be doing it wrong…

      • **sighs** says:

        You’re welcome, Lindy. You’re Irish, so I think you’re supposed to be angry and drunk. 😉
        I know lots of Brits, and they generally seem pretty happy. My FB feed is full of smiling Brits. I should tell them they’re doing it wrong.

      • Lindy79 says:

        I was thinking drunk, eating a potato while doing a jig and saying Fiddle-de-deee a lot, which I would happily oblige.

      • Kat says:

        Rofl, lindy. Don’t forget your lucky charms..

      • Ant says:

        That’s all you lot have: he ‘looks’ like yadda-yadda-yadda-to exhaustion. “Looks’ – that supremely accurate piece of evidence, widely accepted in courts – in the 17th century! When women looked like witches, hence let’s drown them in the river. The thing is, if this man marries/entered a long-life commitment primarily for publicity, he’s garbage. How can you be a fan of garbage.

      • Ingrid says:

        Ant:

        Looks > says.

        Because if he says something, that’s the truth?

      • Kat says:

        “You lot”? .. Rude.

        If someone consistently looks like someone’s shat in their socks, then you do start to wonder. And there isn’t just “looks” anyway.. There’s “says” and “does” too.

        What’s with the absolutes and black and white definitions? Who’s saying he’s definitely going to marry for publicity? What people ARE saying, is something is supremely OFF.

      • Ant says:

        What Cumby says, I’m pretty sure you lot memorized it by now and you know it better than me. It’s his pretentious twatspeak for being in love, in the center of the universe cum tool usefulness kind of way. And what does he do? Prepping a nursery probably.
        So it’s back to looks. Or a mysterious undefinable ‘something’.

      • Kat says:

        Still persisting with the ‘you lot’? I think we know you mean us.

        Nope, that’s not his ‘pretentious twatspeak’, it’s just forced and really weird. He’s never done ‘pretentious twatspeak’ before when talking about people he cares about.

        There’s no mysterious ‘something’. Why try and turn this into some ethereal crap.
        Anyone who can’t see he’s acting really weird and looking like he wants to punch a wall whilst wilfully shilling out his private life, is either really stupid or completely delusional.

      • Ant says:

        Aah looks again! And so so so defensive, like I insulted your cat or something. And thanks for the insults, prepare to impart a lot more in the months to come.
        BTW, what’s your take on moon landing, did it look real or not?

      • Kat says:

        You know, if you cannot recognise a human looking constantly miserable, then that’s not my fault. And if you can’t see a manufactured publicity plan/stunt, then that’s also not my fault. Good luck with life.

        And seeing as you’re now comparing people calling out Cumberbatch shilling himself out for his Oscar campaign, to moon landing deniers…then I think we’re done.

      • ScottyisaRelic says:

        Hehe, good one, Ant. The moon landing… dunno… did you see how miserable Armstrong looked?

      • Aeltri says:

        ‘Reserve’ and all that *chortle*. They are leaving enough room between them for their Lord and Master. What makes me think this is a fauxmance? This standoffish behavior is coming from a man whose hands were all but crazy-glued to his last LT gf. SH on the otherhand, has been photographed sitting on a male friend’s LAP.

    • Kat says:

      Why do these comments keep coming up? There has been nothing normal about any of this. Why do some people find it so hard to actually read what people are saying instead of writing everyone off as ‘unable to accept boy meets girl, falls in love, gets married’
      How many times does it to be said? People wouldn’t be discussing the weird if there were no weird to be discussed.

      • Lindy79 says:

        Possibly because it was more like

        Boy faffs about for 6 months with various women
        Boy gets papped at tennis with Girl but looks more interested in his ice cream
        Boy and Girl go to lengths to avoid being seen publicly together
        Boy and Girl go to same premiere of Boys film
        Girl marches up red carpet on her own not with Boys family and friends but they avoid being seen together
        Boy and Girl go to restaurant together, Boy leaves Girl in the car while he walks in alone
        Boys and Girl announce engagement in The Times of London

        Its like Gone with the Wind

    • Kat says:

      *sits in the fridge to quell rising rage*

      As a British person, I find I have to ask you what on EARTH you are talking about?

      • **sighs** says:

        You are to always look like you swallowed a lemon or have just happened on a pile of dung, didn’t you know?

      • Kat says:

        Balls, I wondered why Ive never fitted in. Where should I go? Where do the happy people live?

      • Cate says:

        They live right next to Polka Dot Sweat Pant country, in Floraldiapocketia, didn’t you know? It’s also really close to Octopusopia. And around the corner from Weinsteinum.

      • Cara says:

        Well, British people USUALLY aren’t publicly affectionate, I think that’s what Other Rennee meant, that they are discrete. Not every couple has to make googly-eyes at each other on the red carpet.

        People in this post need to take a chill pill or something, geez…

      • Kat says:

        Oh for goodness SAKE. I can’t believe people are this ignorant. I am British and we are not a bunch of bumbling and repressed Jane Austen characters.
        We are warm with the people we love. These ludicrous generalisations are borderline offensive.

        And nobody expects ‘Googly eyes’ or ‘PDAs’ on the red carpet. Just warmth? Not looking like he wants to die? Don’t know how many times that has to be said either..

      • Lindy79 says:

        Fair enough but he seems really relaxed and joyful with everyone but her, even at same events, he’s stone faced on RC and beaming in pictures he’s not with her.

        Eddie Redmayne and his wife are a good comparison, and example of reserved yet still looking into each other.
        Everyone’s different obviously but Benedict has had no problem in the past showing affection towards friends and girlfriends. He’s acting very very different with her, it just seems odd since she’s his fiancee.

    • MtnRunner says:

      That’s great for you Other Renee… really. Unfortunately, when the clock is ticking and more importantly, an Oscar is at stake, things tend to get muddled. The quick engagement announced two days before his US Oscar Campaign started was enough to bring on the side-eyes.

    • Ant says:

      Wrong place, sowwy.

  28. Lizzi says:

    They look like brother and sister.

  29. FingerBinger says:

    The Richard III movie sounds interesting. That’s all I got.

  30. Lucifer says:

    Were not we complaining that , when talking about her we get the feeling that He is the more important entity so now she is more important for him. ON RECORD. hey PR pay us some bucks. HILARIOUS

  31. OSTONE says:

    I just hope, for our sake, that he gets the same backlash as AnnE “it came true” Hathaway did for her obnoxious Oscar campaign. I don’t know how I am going to be able to watch Sherlock again (if they ever get on it) without thinking how far his otter head has gone up his *ss.

  32. ellesbelles says:

    The picture of Ben on set under the Dunlop umbrella, I honestly thought he had a Dunlop shoebox on his head at first. In my defense it was 430am when I saw the photo.

    • Ingrid says:

      When I saw those photos, I felt compelled to go and buy some Dunlop tires.

      • ellesbelles says:

        Since we’re on the subject of product placement, who do we call to request Hiddles in Jaguar branded underwear in the middle of Piccadilly? Or you know… my bedroom. I’m not picky

      • Gracie says:

        @elles, please let there be a Hiddles bank/library so that each of us can call to request/reserve Hiddles time? I’ll take him with clothes too. You know, not picky. 🙂

      • ellesbelles says:

        come to think of it Gracie, I think I prefer clothes on as well. Its all the more fun to remove them later.

      • Gracie says:

        IKR *wink*

  33. laura says:

    I am sick of his face. I’ve never been a fan, but he didn’t bother me in any way until I started seeing article after stupid, boring article. Someone just compared him to Anne, and I think that’s pretty apt.

    Also, the obsessive bashing of his relationship and fiancee is pathetic. None of you had – or have- any chance with him. Stop acting like the sad high school wanna bes.

    • Gracie says:

      *yawn* How do I put this delicately? No, I am just gonna say it. The door is on the right top corner. Thank you for dropping by for a visit and insults. Please click “X” and don’t come back.

    • Kat says:

      Oh the irony of someone accusing others of being ‘sad high school wanna bes’ whilst accusing them of their opinion being based on thinking he could one day be our boyfriends and we are all heartbroke. Please grow up.

      You’re by your own admission not a fan,so you obviously have no idea what we’re talking about, so how are you able to judge anything based on that? Seriously, this is like some random storming the pub you’re in, screaming ‘you’re talking sh!t’ and running out again.

    • ellesbelles says:

      @laura

      I wont come out with my claws out, because I agree, I don’t have a chance ever of being with Benedict, and that’s fine. I’m an adult and I realize the reality. The fantasy is sure fun to entertain sometimes though!

      But to discount theories that something in the engagement milk isn’t clean simply because you are annoyed with them is a pretty weak argument.

      CB has plenty of other articles that may interest you if the ongoing Cumberbatch saga does not. Perhaps one of those is more to your liking

    • Gracie says:

      There. Those ladies have put it far better than I did. It’s nearly 5 o’clock in the afternoon and I am due to meet my mother and freaking tired. Bloody hell, not everyone wants to get into Otter’s pants okay? The site is called celebitchy. If you can’t see that he gets bashed as much as she does, not just up the relationship ante but also the RP tactics, then I don’t know what else to say.

    • Mikasa says:

      @laura I thought you were referring to him when you said….
      ‘the obsessive bashing of his relationship and fiancee is pathetic’ – LOL

  34. Lucifer says:

    is not bristol 2-3 hours away from London?? Why would she take 2-3 hours drive back and forth just to spend 17mins there???? STAGED as whazoooo

    • AG-UK says:

      Yes Bristol is that far away and if in a car could be slightly longer as the train I bet at this point is not an option for him

      • Lucifer says:

        They are NOT even staying thr. AA already tweeted that.Why does she NEED to go other than getting photographed. He is cming back at home anyway. Oh wait, she is going to Edin and He to London 😉
        SOLVED

    • Ingrid says:

      Oh, but she didn’t. She’s staying in Bristol and they are obviously sharing a house with all of his family and friends. So, so cozy and loving, you know. And she left 17 minutes later because she and her BFF Emily decided to go shoe shopping (while holding hands, of course).

      • Lucifer says:

        LOL.. some pajamas too. maybe some street side donation camp?

      • Ingrid says:

        Yes, Lucifer, but nothing wedding related, of course. As we all know, Benedict is in charge of his wedding which he planned in his sleep on airplanes and which isn’t a priority at the moment.

      • Lucifer says:

        NOPE, wedding is our groomzila’s division.

    • Angie says:

      I’m almost done with it ; ( I wouldn’t even say I’m a Sherlock fan, it’s just too much, the harder they try, the less it’s convincing. It seems like they don’t care if it repels people or not

      • Ingrid says:

        Pregnancy baiting (real or not), the hobbit premiere, Emily photo-op, this. No, they really don’t care.

        Is there anything left that they haven’t ruined?

      • Angie says:

        I ve been thinking about it for sometime tbh, that of course they would stick to it, no matter whats ruined during the process, they get what they want, the nomination, even a possible win. Still…*sign

        By the way, the setlock hair looks quite similar to W…and FYI, some CN bnf nannies said they lv it anyway, even said its the best *eyeroll, saw one “no cmmt”, not all random fans taking it very well.

  35. scout says:

    I bet she is helpful, Lord Epicene! Helps you with your image of being a good husband and her future baby daddy I bet!

  36. Freebunny says:

    For once I agree with BC, she’s a tool.

    • **sighs** says:

      And an ass….et

    • anon says:

      Or maybe the “tool” comment was merely a “tool” Bendy used to let the world know that his fiancé WAS in the SUV with him?
      Also-check out the Palm Springs photos. The two where she really looks pregnant. Bendy has a total “what were you thinking” vibe and the other one looks like he’s getting ready to walk ahead.
      Srsly though-for a guy who has stated he wants kids, he hasn’t once put his hand anywhere near Sophie’s belly. Odd, no?

      • Felice says:

        Honestly, the whole exchange reminded me of Back to the Future 1 where they’re in the car and Marty sees Lorraine’s dress lol.

  37. chantal says:

    My friend, the cumber person, I would not dare call her a cumberbitch because her boyfriend BC does not like that name (whatever…) does not think it is PR. She thinks it is the case of two people who should have known better to use “French letters”, but did not. Now they are face with this situation (pregnancy?) and are making the best of it. She does not think he really wants to be married with kids. For him it is and ideal life/illusion. She should know right, she thinks she knows him. She annoys me sometimes with her BC stories. Anyway she has a funny theory, well I think is funny:
    BC was trysting with Balfour or/and others… hey, he was single. Met the fabulous huntress, and start trysting with her over the summer and the trysting developed into something more, but not planned. She knows him so well, that she can pinpoint when she got pregnant, assuming that she really is and not a bad case of bloating from eating too much Caribbean food during their holiday. According to her, it is the night or the weekend of that Elle magazine interview. She said there was something different in the interview. It seems to her that he was ready for the hunt. When I read the interview I thought he was just flirting with the interviewer. What do I know? She is sadden by this situation because she does not think BC has found true love (in her mind, it is probably her). He is trying to rectify a bad situation that he is responsible for. If only, he had listened to Sherlock. He would not have been in this predicament. Just like Sherlock, he should have tested the latex, used his violin fingers and not enter.
    I cannot stop laughing at that because I think she is serious.

  38. chantal says:

    I am not in the conspiracy PR thing. My only two observations are the stroll in LAX and Emily picking them at the airport. Couldn’t she wait for them outside in the car? Did she have to go inside the airport? Is it usual for her to go inside to pick him up? I really don’t think this HW work. If it was, it would have work seamlessly and no one would have notice. It is BC taking matter into his own hands and PR trying to remedy the matter because he is moving so fast for some reason. HW will never let an engagement overshadow his movie. No sireeeeeeeeeee…

    • Lucifer says:

      sometimes I think that too. Weinstein PR HAS to know better than this

    • Ingrid says:

      FYI, Harvey is a man who sinks his own movies if he doesn’t get his way. This has Harvey written all over it.

      • Lucifer says:

        Even after 2 months I can’t quite wrap my head around this. BUT I do think Ursula acts on her own sometimes.

      • ellesbelles says:

        ^^ This

        See: Snowpiercer

      • Angie says:

        @Lucifer yeah, I think maybe shes not paid much and gets annoyed sometimes, or she’s just too bad an actress

      • Felice says:

        @Angie
        I said below why I think she struggles with acting.

        Free acting tip: Pretend the camera is not there (while easier said than done, lots of practice and it can be achieved). No matter what, she always finds the camera. And it’s not a nervous glance like people with anxiety would get, but an actual pose. I’m sure if people took the time to look through individual frames, it would not shock me if there were instances where she glances into the lens.

        Even if you’re not looking at the camera, awareness of the camera can cause tension in the body.

  39. Linz says:

    The IMDB Nannies think the Anti-Sophie blogs (SoGo, WikiAnon, Benedict’s Third Testicle, etc) are dangerous.

    “To be honest some of them have now reached such levels of insane hatred that I genuinely think they are likely to do SH physical harm if they ever got near her. It’s gone from a bunch of people irritated by the engagement to something way more sinister and potentially dangerous. It’s really unlike me to say this as I’m all for free speech but I do hope some of BC’s people are monitoring those blogs because it’s really getting to a point where they might need to think about getting the appropriate authorities involved to check some of these people out.”

    Some of the Nannies over there are “certain” Sophie is pregnant (Because they say the pictures are proof, and because his team hasn’t denied anything.) They are talking about how far along they think she is, and are trying to figure out when she will have the baby..That’s not obsessive or crazy… 😉

    • Lucifer says:

      LOL.. WE are officially cyber criminals now 😀 kudos to us

    • Felice says:

      They aren’t gonna do anything. Assault is the imminent threat of harm and no one has implied that they will go out and find her. And it’s not just those blogs that are pissed off about this whole thing. PR is monitoring those blogs though but it’s to see what their next stunt should be.

      Honestly, they have a right to be annoyed. A lot of those blogs had no real opinion of SH before the Cavelli dress and the Heathrow shots. Now they just see her as a thirsty fame whore. Someone suggested that this would have been the time to start fading her out but then she started to do things on her own.

      And I’m starting to think the real reason she can’t act is because she is always aware that there is a camera there.

      • Lucifer says:

        Nannies & fans on the gag side have expressed that Sherlock was a ‘no no no’. And look what she/PR did… She (and or PR) knows Sherlock is the precious and did not care

    • Ingrid says:

      But offering to babysit their Otterbaby is normal and harmless. Of course.

      DANGER!
      https://38.media.tumblr.com/cb8e92ab455bf7239d58b690e81fadcc/tumblr_msllr2MRnF1qjqzoeo4_250.gif

    • Madly says:

      Hatred? Dangerous? Personal harm? I don’t think those words mean what they think they mean.

    • Kat says:

      Omfg. What the f*£k wrong with them? Wow, that is deeply, deeply scary. You have to be one hell of a delusional crazy obsessive to say something like that.
      Those blogs don’t even say anything particularly horrible about her, it’s a lot of disbelief and eyerolling at the whole situation, including her blatant publicity stunt on that red carpet.
      Anyone can see that, so what exactly are they trying to achieve by lying?

      God, I’ve never been anywhere as terrifying as IMDB. I was aghast the crazed and obsessive posts on there and it made me really uneasy. Places like this are largely full of people who are intelligent, have their own relationships and lives and are unafraid to call out Cumberbatch when he’s a …..tool.
      IMDB has a very, very dark atmosphere and the worship there is genuinely unsettling. Thankfully I was there long enough to notice the regulars when they pop up on here to evangelise.

    • alice says:

      You want to know real crazy – when the engagement was first announced a thread was started on imdb discussing future cumberbabies. It got into their respective ages, went from there to a discussion of sperm and eggs and surrogates. Nausea inducing.

    • SkepticBlog says:

      As the owner of one of those ‘Anti-Sophie’ blogs (clarification, I am not anti-Sophie, I am anti-being lied to and told the sky is green when I know its not) I resent the hell out if those insane IMDB trolls that I would harm Sophie and/or Benedict. I wouldn’t touch either of them with a 10ft pole. I’M not the one offering to babysit. JFC. Why would I risk going to jail for something pathetic as an engagement? I’m just having fun, calling Benedict out on his wtf actions, tis all!

      • gg says:

        Apparently I am dangerous too, b*tches just be jealous because I’m going to see Hamlet LOL. And yes, B&S have more to worry about from nannies hitting them with a cupcake bomb…..

      • Felice says:

        @gg

        You are my savior though.

    • Old Enough says:

      Lol, but the “nannies” who stormed his Agent’s office to deliver their gifts are not to be of concern? At least the blogs are just talking. This talk of threats has more to do with the threat to their certainty, I suspect.

  40. Madly says:

    His comment on her being a tool and asset is the first honest thing he has said about their showmance.

  41. Kat says:

    I just love that a crazy fan has not only photoshopped his face onto a picture to make him appear more affectionate, but they’ve used a photo where he was looking at Eddie. Lol

    And just to make things extra funny…here’s a crazy tumblrite’s comment under said picture..

    “I love how he’s staring at her lips as if just waiting for the next opportunity to kiss them. They’re adorable!”

    😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • Felice says:

      The person who made it is actually pro-GAG I’m pretty sure. She’s more indifferent tbh she likes Martin Freeman a lot.

      I know the girl who reposted the photo though (without credit insult to injury). She was trolling those blogs earlier by calling them little girls even though she is 22.

      It reminds me of that Ukrainian living Barbie who would respond to trolls by calling them “Woman” because that is an insult in her world for some reason.

  42. Lucifer says:

    After explaining the clusterfck to husband, He made the silliest joke -so she is a stunt director now,not a opera director?? that’s some demotion 😀

  43. Felice says:

    Anna Chancellor is in the special *flails* yaaaaaaaasssssss. She played the leader of the evil housewives in Suburban Shootout with Tom Hiddleston, the mother in Fortysomething, and she’s in Hitchhiker with Martin Freeman.

    She’s so amazing I love it.

  44. Ice Queen says:

    After George and Amal, I thought I will never see a couple with so little chemistry. I was wrong. This two top the list.

  45. chantal says:

    Get ready for a surprise! she was there with BC at Turks and Caicos with Christy Brinkley family and Alexa refers to Sophie as his wife! The world is coming to an end. She is wife according to Alexa Joel. Maybe they are already married. That is why SH is smiling.

    • Lucifer says:

      hmmmm

    • Ingrid says:

      Or she wanted attention?

      Donna Karan & Calvin Klein sponsored New Year Party? So private, not business…

      But honestly, after today’s Setlock, I don’t care anymore.

      • Lucifer says:

        me neither. Parade’s end

      • Lucifer says:

        who r these ppl anyway?

      • anon says:

        Wait-Donna Karan and Calvin Klein hosted a New Year’s Eve party and you don’t think it’s business? EVERYTHING is business with these guys! Wonder how manyou Acade my members were there?

      • Ingrid says:

        Well, Bieber, Brinkley, Karan & a Baldwin were there, so it was either a disgusting socialite party or there were some serious people as well.

        But after 7 months, we have finally a relaxed photo of BCSH. I mean the posed one, the one where they didn’t know they were photographed, they look miserable. But anyway…

      • Lucifer says:

        oh come on they knew it would be all over social networking sites

      • Cee says:

        @Ingrid – What happened on setlock? I know she was there, but I wasn’t able to keep up with the photos/tweets/madness that followed. My job protects me from most PR stunts LOL

      • Angie says:

        I call that smile perfunctory, LOL

        I just feel bad for him, but how naive I was to think he could actually take some break during the holiday to prepare himself for January, for Sherlock. *sign

      • KT says:

        Oh, there’s no breaks. He’ll be expected at Harvey-sponsored functions like this for the voters.

    • Felice says:

      ….what?…..aren’t they still filming?

    • Linz says:

      @Chantel.

      Where does it say “wife?”

      “Benedict Cumberbatch whose charm matches his enormous talent and his sparkling and lovely fiancée Sophie”

      • Ingrid says:

        It said wife before but she corrected it quickly. They seem very close friends *snort*

      • chantal says:

        She corrected it. They are throwing us off scent. I think they are married and she is pregnant. Her boobs look very big in the pictures. She was on the set of Sherlock to be introduced to the staff and colleagues and Emily was there too. Just my opinion, I think she is pretty. I don’t think he could have done any better.

      • Kat says:

        No they’re not married, but she did a very good job of showing everyone on the red carpet she’s probably got pregnant, which as I said, would explain his demeanour.

        But you’re joking with this comment, I presume? …
        “I don’t think he could have done any better.”

      • Lucifer says:

        @chantel yet the very same boobs looked like its original shape on the day before yesterday??? is a monster growing inside her?? like twilight?

      • Linz says:

        I don’t think they are married and I don’t think she is pregnant. There are wine glasses in front of her and Benedict in those pics.

        The dress she wore, it even made the model look like she had a bump.

    • Kat says:

      Link?

    • lindy79 says:

      So it was a dinner/party hosted by CK and DKNY? Or was it something more intimate hosted by Brinkley?

      Wow…just…..wow.
      Are they even friends with these people?? Enough to be going to a party with them?

      Alexa is SO like her dad!

    • Ingrid says:

      Google Christie Brinkley’s Instagram. Two photos.

      • Felice says:

        Oh god how dare she? I love Christie Brinkley on Parks and Recreation. As Tom would say, I am DONE-ZO with her.

        (I jest but ugh. I love her so much I am so disappointed)

      • Lucifer says:

        she corrected it to fiancee. and they are smiling 😉

      • Lucifer says:

        so benedict has a instagram which is private with 0 followers?

      • lindy79 says:

        And shes only posting them now yet has been instagramming every day since NYE…clearly knows him well as she’s tagged him with a non existent @ (!)

        Christ this is just such a mess. How is this a private relaxing holiday with your fiancé? Pure networking.
        Hope its worth it to you Benedict..
        Truly.

      • Kat says:

        Oh dear. What an honour to be sandwiched inbetween fawning photos of that little creature Bieber on an instagram page full of desperate photos of a woman apparently intent on sharing her life with the world.
        A cretinous socialite celeb party. Didn’t think it was very likely he was doing something quiet and low key.
        Still, good thing he managed to stay present with his family over xmas anyway

      • Felice says:

        Interesting that these are being released now. Not like there was any s***storm on the internet lately about her behavior or anything.

      • Lucifer says:

        exactly my point. New yr party on 6th??? most likely these were held on weekends or 31st and released now.. makes me sick. m already sick. whoever paints benedict as naive victim is an idiot

      • Ingrid says:

        Her glass seems awfully small for a water/soft drink glass… Hmmm…

      • Lucifer says:

        why @chassechasse was not tagged and was written Sophie?? if thr intentions were pure FUN??

      • moodgirl says:

        What’s next? Why does Ben look so miserable and uptight in public with her and relaxed here in private? One act is phony but which one and why?

      • Lucifer says:

        @ingrid look at the second photo when they’re not aware of the camera. Dead eye ben is back 😀

      • Felice says:

        Well Christie Brinkley took the picture and you know he had her pics up on his dorm wall.

        And why are all of these validating tweets coming out now? Oh wait.

      • **sighs** says:

        I think someone(s) got a serious talking to before Xmas. No one was buying it, and it has now gotten amped up like nobody’s business. They are serious about this looking legit now.
        I love this stuff. I have never followed a celeb like this, and I don’t even really care for him other than thinking he’s a relatively good actor, but this is the most entertaining thing ever!!!

      • **sighs** says:

        Felice- I think there was a lot of alcohol involved here. A lot.

      • Mikasa says:

        hahaha…that other photo where everyone is smiling and the newly engaged couple look miserable and no’t inter-acting’ with each other speaks for itself – they didn’t know they were being photographed!!
        ahh, but that other photo shows a big bust and a lot of cleavage so still a possibility she could be pg?

      • Ingrid says:

        @sighs x2: ITA. I think we need to be prepared for this to start look legit. I mean they were making so.many.mistakes. last year.

        And a lot of alcohol is involved, as is very beautiful Christie taking that picture…

      • moodgirl says:

        He looks like he’s eating to me and in between chews.

      • Kat says:

        There’s a few cosy pics of weinstein with Brinkley online. Just saying.

        Hollywood’s a small world. Ahem.

      • Felice says:

        @Kat

        That explains why she could convincingly play Jerry’s wife on Parks and Rec.

      • Ingrid says:

        @Kat

        I f*cking love this ninja googler group of ours! Of course she’s cozy with Weinstein.

      • Linz says:

        @Mikasa.

        There is a wine/champagne glass right in front of her. There is another glass (does not look like a water/juice/soda glass) in front of her. I think it’s pretty obvious that she was drinking. Someone already pointed out, that her breasts looked their natural size/shape the other day.

    • Aeltri says:

      WHEN did the wedding happen? With NONE of their closest friends there AA, JR and apparently none of BC’s OR SH’s relatives either? Nothing coincides quite frankly. Besides if they flew into Turks and Caicos over the weekend they would have to wait for days to file the paperwork etc. If it was in Edinburgh it would be easy to find the info, someone would have dug it up already. I am not saying it isn’t a possibility but it seems highly unlikely. I have a feeling that (if the above claim is true) it was a deliberate Twit slip to get people talking, “Are or aren’t they?” AJ is not stupid enough to leak private info and she is certainly no stranger to the PR game. IF her mom is friends with HW it is a favor she did for him. After the PSFF debut SH is now officially mother of the Cumberbaby, so even if they are not married she feels like she has enough clout to act like they are. Because BC HAS to “do the right thing”…sooner or later.

  46. ScottyisaRelic says:

    …..

  47. Lucifer says:

    alexarayjoel
    Such a classy, low-key, sweet, charming couple… Benedict & Sophie love them!!!

    • anon says:

      Interesting – I’ve read some old articles with/about Sophie and they a point about her not wanting to be in the spotlight. One article specifically mentioned that she couldn’t be bothered with celebrity. How does someone labeled as “almost strange”, uncaring of success, unwilling to appear with a more famous BF for fear of people thinking she was riding his coattails, hitch her wagon to someone like Ben? He is quite gregarious, he’s working it to the max, going to celebrity parties, working non-stop, RC city. I mean did she just change in the name of love? Practicality? $$$? Nobody does a 180 like she has without a VERY good reason!

    • MissMary says:

      those interviews were when she was with an artist type so it looked good for her to say she wasn’t interested in fame, etc, because it gave her an “arty” vibe. Now, she’s with a well to do actor who is very famous (in some circles)… she can’t play the odious card (though she can be odious all day long).

    • Aeltri says:

      Alexa Ray Joel is another talentless fameho. She WOULD like someone like SoFail…

  48. Lucifer says:

    why Benedict’s all friends are pretentious snobs?

    • moodgirl says:

      Because Benedict is a pretentious snob.

    • Felice says:

      I want to think PR is directing them where to go and who to be with. They want him to be seen as “one of them”

      They know people are questioning it and they know people see BC looking like he resents her so why not have B and C-listers fawning over them?

      • Lucifer says:

        i want that, but i can’t anymore

      • Ingrid says:

        1. I’m starting to think Sodious and BC are match made in heaven. One of them talented, both of them pretentious snobs.

        2.It seems the resort was filled with jetsetters. Imagine if he had been there sans fiancee? Would have raised some eyebrows…

        3. He had the guest of honor seat next to Karan

        4. He might be in love with Brinkley, not SH

        5. His hand is on her shoulder very… platonic way. SH looks like “don’t touch me”

        ETA: 6. Forgot the most important one: where the hell is SoGo? Did Harvey finally kidnap her?

      • Felice says:

        @Ingrid

        Don’t. These are from over the holiday. What happened in Palm Springs, Heathrow, and today still happened.

        ETA: It’s a weekday. I’m sure she’ll be back later.

      • Ingrid says:

        @Felice -Thanks for the cyber CPR. 😀

      • Felice says:

        I understand. I don’t care anymore what he does with this women as long as I never have to see her ever again in public appearances.

      • moodgirl says:

        Maybe they really are a couple because she is pregnant and he had to get on board – no pun intended – but he is embarrassed about the way it went down – again, no pun intended.

        I can imagine how he is going to feel when all the magazines – People, Vogue, Time, Wall Street Journal, plus all the entertainment shows and internet sites that kissed their supposedly very British, very upper class asses – he from Harrow, she from Oxford – find out that the truly romantic couple that announced their much fawned over, rich people engagement in THE TIMES because “that is what I would have done even if I weren’t famous” just did so because she was knocked up. Just like non-famous people do. Or horny teenagers. After knowing each other to what amounts to a couple of weeks. And they are no better and certainly no smarter than anyone else. I guess bigging up Sophie’s resume really didn’t make her any smarter in real life.

        This is why his parents and friends are keeping their mouths shut, they are embarrassed for him. If I became pregnant by a man I knew three weeks I wouldn’t talk about it either. And yeah, I know his parents waited until Ben’s head almost hit the floor before marrying but one would think he would have learned from their experience. I bet my car if Sophie is pregnant Ben’s parents are embarrassed as hell because the guy is way old enough to know better. He will marry her. He will just be coy about it and play word games for the fandom to ruminate over.

        Anyone want to punch holes in my theory? I’m open to anything.

      • MissMary says:

        @Ingrid: Like I said downthread, these parties are pure PR. The invite lists are always a who’s who and who’s hot of the moment, and damn near sponsored (“we’d love to provide champagne for your party…make sure it’s the only wine served, okay? Oh, you need gift bags for your guests? We’ll provide them but make sure there’s no other brands of soap, lotion, etc on site”) BC doesn’t know DK in real life, or Christie Brinkley, and I’d be willing to bet SH is the only person he knew there before the party started. It’s very PR, down to the point where the people attending are aware any snaps will be made available to the media. It’s not an intimate get together of friends for a NYE dinner. It’s an industry party minus an awards ceremony.

      • moodgirl says:

        Miss Mary don’t you think we have made every excuse in the world for him? I just don’t see it ending any differently. He should be upfront and honest and quit playing games so she can wipe that smug look off her face.

      • Mikasa says:

        @moodgirl its a possibility but it doesn’t make sense to announce the engagement so publicly if he was ashamed about it. Most guys just keep quiet like Renner. Why bother blow everything up??Unless everything was orchestrated by the opera director from oh I’m fertile tonight, perfect he’s back from the GQ party and very drunk too…now’s my chance, BC wakes up in the morning and uh-oh naked with SH and then grumpybatch starts showing up…gives weird interview bout settling down just in case she is pg, plays nice with her with out of town trips and invite to lff…and turns out she is pg, quick trip to edi to tell mommy and she tells him they have to get married or. she will abort his baby…and he gets anxious, upset but agree hence the sadpissybatch we now see….?? Some things still don’t add up and I can’t quite put my thoughts into it.

      • gg says:

        SoGo is buried in work! The kind that pays the bills….or so I am told.

      • moodgirl says:

        LOL!! Your imagination/attention to detail is like mine. If she’s pregnant he had to announce the engagement because he couldn’t afford to have a baby momma waddling around London/New York/Edinburgh while he chased an Oscar. Someone would find that out for sure and he would look terrible.

        Anyway, you don’t think showing up on the red carpet with a cheap dime store clutch over your stomach isn’t announcing anything? IF she is pregnant then she will spill the beans before he will and I simply would not allow her to do it. Her smugness and thirst will not allow her to keep that secret. If she is, get it over with and move on.

      • gg says:

        Cumberbatchweb tweeted earlier that Benedict would make a “flying” visit to the Globes this weekend. Any chance Sophie might actually stay away, just to keep pregnancy rumors in play? Because she can’t wear another tent, not to a nationally televised red carpet

      • Felice says:

        @gg She’s an extension of him, remember? But if she’s not there it may be to flame the rumors or because regardless of baity glamour articles, she is not fit for live television yet.

      • Ingrid says:

        Gg& Felice: i have been thinking the same. She has two perfect excuses: short trip/ long flight and, you know, she’s fragile pregnant lady now.

        Maybe Karon said it will be a mess, maybe BC said no, I’m not taking her to the biggest night of my career?

        But would she be willing stay away? No f*cking way. She has real fondness for RCs now. (And paparazzi)

      • MissMary says:

        @moodgirl: Oh we have but…I’m still not buying what they’re selling.

      • KT says:

        MissMary is correct about these types of parties, but usually around Oscar season, they include Oscar voters.

        Basically, that party was full of voters. Harvey is a huge fan of wining and dining voters, drags his actors and sometimes, directors, to all of them. But he uses someone else to throw it for the obvious rules reasons.

  49. Hickup says:

    What if he merely made this “tool” joke and it turned out to be that kind of joke that went slightly but unintendedly wrong?

    Same as some guys who do some slightly macho talk in order to compensate that they are actually friendly and caring human beings but often ridiculed for being “not man enough”.

    • Mikasa says:

      well, to be fair BC has never been good at making jokes, especially to journalist. I still remember the snarky joke he made to one who ask him what he does during his down time and he snapped ‘none of your business’ – but he said it was a joke. Not a very good one.

  50. Flower says:

    He really needs to stop talking, enigmatic and quite is far more interesting.

  51. Lucifer says:

    Are u sayin these are from the caribian holiday?

    • Felice says:

      Yes. New Years Eve.

    • MissMary says:

      AKA “PR opportunity because these parties are full of people no one knows IRL and are solely invited b/c they’re up and coming or very “hot” at the moment and it’s industry insiders, producers, fashion and socialite types so they can make connections.” AKA “not a romantic getaway”, aka “famewhoring.”

  52. Koodles says:

    Looks like sophie was drinking a vodka tonic…..

    • MissMary says:

      Or wine. There’s a wine glass on her right, which is where most services place wine glasses since folks tend to be righties. Yes, I’m that bored that I CSI’d that pic.

    • Mikasa says:

      It looks like a tall glass of water…its just half empty that’s why it looks like a small glass. Wine or champagne could be her drink tho, I don’t see her going for the hard stuff or getting super drunk, which is probably why she lays off the after parties.

    • moodgirl says:

      One of my co-workers drank a six pack of beer every day while pregnant. Kid came out fine. Some people don’t feel it’s a big deal.

  53. Ingrid says:

    The newly engaged* Benedict will be on The Ellen Show on Jan 14th.

    I love, love, love Ellen and now this GAG will ruin her show for me as well. FU Harvey!

    *I’m adopting DM’s writing style.

    • Felice says:

      Yeah I’m actually not excited for that since I’m very pissed off at this being shoved down my throat. In any other situation, I would be ecstatic that he’s going to be on that show.

    • Mikasa says:

      OMG. That is gonna be one big disaster if grumpybatch shows up!! Hopefully dorkybatch will be there…*fingerscrossed*

    • MissMary says:

      Oh lord. This will not end well at all.

    • Lucifer says:

      Omg even I adore Ellen. And she asks totally personal questions. We should get ready for more fuckery. God. I hope she pulls a Nicki Minaj on him. That would be enjoyable. Again when he was on jimmy Fallon GAG did not get much hype. So lets not lose hope

    • Cate says:

      Surely he’ll bring his useful tool aka his fiancée with him? Maybe she can do a dance-off with Ellen? Hands firmly in pocket, or coat pulled together. She might even bring her octopus! Oh the joy. (I kind of hope Ellen will prank BC, give him a good scare…Idea: Have HW come by and tell him he’s a free man again. Then take it back! Gotcha Benedict!)

    • Ingrid says:

      Just an update, things Her Toolness/ Sankapus (newest nicknames I read today, they just get better and better) has ruined for me:

      Benedict
      Sherlock
      The Hobbit
      TIG
      Award Season
      Paris
      Edinburgh
      Bristol
      The Caribbean
      The Brigertons Series
      Palm Springs
      Ellen
      Floral dresses
      All the tabloids

      Feel free to add yours.

  54. Lucifer says:

    Kay folks m off. We knew these coming months are gonna be harder. And it has started. I say take deep breaths,have popcorn , get ready for more tomfoolery. M totally prepared for an actual wedding 💒. We need to just stay together and laugh our arse off @these stunts

    • Mikasa says:

      I’m ready for the birth to happen – that might possibly come first.
      Still can’t decide whether to put my money on otter or octopuss?!

      • Ingrid says:

        The Weinstein Company will produce the birthing video.

      • moodgirl says:

        I don’t think Harvey has much to do with these shenanigans.

      • scarf girl says:

        I am of the opinion BC is behind the most offensive shenanigans. HW was just the enabler.

      • moodgirl says:

        Yep.

      • J says:

        LOL

        yeah harvey is spending millions but letting a low rung actor and his out-of-depth pr rep run it

        ok

      • KT says:

        This is pretty typical of Weinstein, actually.

        Fake romances (if that is the case) and wine-dine voters parties are common tactics of his. Also, blackmail and smear campaigns of the ‘nearest competitor’, but not sure if that applies here.

  55. Diego says:

    Good job, Harvey

  56. Lucifer says:

    Ohh he is with felicity nd Megan. Hopefully it will be strictly work related.thanks heavens

  57. Pariz says:

    My how ya’ll have turned on this man…

  58. Lucifer says:

    Turns out these Christy whatever photos were taken in newyork where he was sighted on new years weekend.

    • Linz says:

      Where did you find that out?

      • gg says:

        People in my inbox seem to think it was Turks and Caicos. Jesus I leave for a few hours and it’s like a bomb goes off….I will be SO GLAD when this sh*t is over

      • Gracie says:

        A bomb has indeed gone off. Ladies, keep calm and brace yourselves! We still got 2 months ahead of us!

    • Mikasa says:

      Ahh…the new jersey guy who tweeted must have met him there then! The pics looks like they’re outdoors tho? Would have been freezing!

      • Ingrid says:

        It’s Parrot Cay in Turks & C. I’m 99% sure. Donna K owns part of that resort or something like that.

        BTW, isn’t it interesting that these pics are released now, the first working week, not on NYE, when everyone is busy.

      • Linz says:

        @Ingrid.

        It is interesting. One photo was posted yesterday the other photo today.

      • Claire says:

        Good point ingrid. I’m just coming on now. What have I missed? I’m scared to go downthread.

    • Ingrid says:

      Uh-oh, the plot thickens: Cumberbatchweb, the most official unofficial source of BC just tweeted that picture. Has she ever tweeted “private Instagram” photos before?

      Karon has been a busy bee…Too bad Brinkley wasn’t available to attend church on Christmas Day in Scotland.

      • Felice says:

        No she hasn’t.

      • Gracie says:

        If I was a betting man, I’d say somebody just raised the stakes before the fourth community card. They could have a pair of aces or a pair of twos, or something completely bizarre like a two and a ten (which is more than the reality imo).

      • Linz says:

        It’s not really a “private” photo. Christie posted it on her very public Instagram Account.

        Young Girl in a Facebook group. Claims Benedict and Sophie got married around Christmas, but it was kept extremely secret. Said her very close friend knows Sophie’s Cousin and she was at the Wedding (Sophie’s Cousin)

      • Lu says:

        @Linz, yeah, in that case, what a beautiful honeymoon he just treated his ladylove to. Two days in Edinburgh and a couple of days in Turks and Caicos with a bunch of industry people. <3 <3 <3 What a great husband he'll make!

      • Linz says:

        @Lu.

        LMFAO! I don’t believe her.

      • gg says:

        And I could post on my Facebook that my dog married Benedict’s cat. Doesn’t make it true!!

      • moodgirl says:

        Why is it always a cousin or friend or cousin of a student of a teacher or roommate or whatever of a friend of Sophie’s. Never a friend or cousin of Ben’s. Such BS.

    • Ingrid says:

      Sorry for the post galore, but I cannot help. Had to share this.

      The Wife gate from IMDB’s Mary Poppins from Hell: I’d love if they’d be married already. It would be a masterpiece in secretiveness”

      I pissed myself laughing…

      • Gracie says:

        Dear god, just out of interest, has anyone tweeted or posted Eddie and Hannah’s wedding picture or visits to work site other than the official announcement? Has anyone even seen it other than their family and friends? What should that tell the nannies?

      • Felice says:

        Stephen Fry’s marriage just shows that it’s impossible to keep a UK marriage a secret. Sorry.

  59. Ingrid says:

    Found this gem from The Hollywood Reporter (2011): Academy Issues New Rules Restricting Oscar Campaigning at Panels and Receptions

    “There are no restrictions on screening events — Q&As and receptions — before nominations are announced Jan. 24. So presumably many of the promotional events that studios have held in December under the guise of “holiday parties” will not be affected.”

    Interesting read (a few years old, there might have been changes since): http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/academy-awards-oscar-party-rules-238604

    Speaking of THR, the newest issue “Cumberbatch was first to play Hawking”: http://cumberninjas.tumblr.com/post/107348281691/found-these-little-treasures-in-my-copy-of-the

  60. lindy79 says:

    Bieber is the new Calvin Klein spokesperson and he was there. So it was definitely not an intimate get together, it was schmoozing and industry.
    Wonder how long before these pics are picked up by the DM, People.

    • moodgirl says:

      Hasn’t Beiber been deported by now? I thought there was a petition to get him booted back to Canada.

  61. Howbout them apples says:

    BC/SH talk about significant other or even just boards a simple plane…examine every every word and always conclude it is negative and SURE that everything is hate, twisted, vile, pr stunt, he is miserable, she is trapping him. He is dead to me and she is an ugly snob

    Jolie Pitts say something similar or act in a similar way (like board a plane or wear a sack of potatoes dress)
    She is doing it because she is a saint and you are all just jealous of her beauty for judging her.
    Nope, no double standard at all.

    • Gracie says:

      Wait, I must be too tired and reading things wrong. Who is Jolie Pitts and why is she a saint?

    • lindy79 says:

      Ive never said anything about the Jolie Pitts..
      *shrugs*

    • scarf girl says:

      Please. He is just a hungry narcissist who is a very good actor (a talent that goes hand in hand) and we are now calling out true colors because of the most blatant, in your face Oscar campaign in recent memory. At least the Jolie Pitts do some sort of public good, and I don’t ignore their antics but it balances them out.

      And as for SH, you are the company you keep. Let the pretentious people of this world gather and couple together. Lowers the likelihood they will sneak into my set.

  62. Ren says:

    Wow, narcissist much. He speaks as if she’s just an object, there for his gratification. Just wow. Something here is fishy.

    • Kat says:

      I think that’s a two way street. She’s clearly using things for her advantage and she seems far happier/more comfortable than him.

  63. Ingrid says:

    Page Six: BCSH are having a baby. Sources say.

    How reliable are they? They did get Keira right.

    • Felice says:

      not

      • Ingrid says:

        Well, at least he needs to address this now. Just jared picked it up already.

        Poor Ben if it’s true. He’s marrying the only person who makes him miserable.

        And yet again, they created a media storm a few days before a big US event.

      • Felice says:

        Keira showed genuine symptoms of pregnancy before people started asking. Page Six also posted the secret girlfriend crap.

        ETA: Also, didn’t Page Six print every single rumor about Beyonce and Jay-Z divorcing by October 2014?

      • Lucifer says:

        Ohh he wont
        “Keeping myself amused and others confused”
        I just woke up and had the weirdest of dreams. BC Ursula got married in that dream and it was as gaudy as possible. Covered by all media outlets. He gave her a giant truck as a wedding gift.
        I m totally sweaty nd out of breath now. In our culture dreams at this time of the day come true.

    • Anon says:

      WTF?!? The fandom is going to go bezerk.

      Lord help him if it is actually true. If he looks this miserable now, I can’t imagine what he’ll look like if she were to give birth.

    • Linz says:

      Not reliable. They are a Gossip/Tabloid Column.

      But that isn’t stopping the Nannies on IMDB from congratulating them. And Benophie Daily also congratulated them.

      • Ingrid says:

        Isn’t that just creepy? From best to worst scenario, the oopsie pregnancy is the worst.
        Best: they are happy and in love
        Middle: it’s PR
        Worst: unplanned pregnancy with someone he dated for a few days.

        How is that a happy occassion?

      • Claire says:

        i agree, Ingrid. I hesitate on the ‘poor Ben’ line though. He’s a grown up. He screwed up.

    • MissMary says:

      They are a tabloid and there’s ties btw HW and Rupert Murdoch, who owns Page Six’s parent company. Maybe reaching here but “interesting”. So until Karon or BC himself comes out and says it’s true, consider Page Six a massive troll.

      • Claire says:

        “troll” isn’t the right word. more like “complicit party”, or I hope not but “controlled leak”

    • Lu says:

      Gee, I guess this means Benedict didn’t know she was pregnant yesterday when he said “one thing at a time,” “wedding planning can wait.” *eye roll*

      • moodgirl says:

        Maybe he knew about the gossip coming out and he didn’t want to fan the flames. He couldn’t say that his gf is knocked up and he will have to marry her so he won’t look like a jerk. He has to wait if out.

    • moodgirl says:

      From Just Jared:

      “The 38-year-old The Imitation Game actor, who announced his engagement via a newspaper notice back in November, is supposedly “delighted” to become a dad.”

      A few definitions of the word “supposedly” –

      1. “Supposedly” is usually used to mean, “most people think this is true but I think it is questionable or clearly false”.

      2. “According to what is generally assumed or believed (often used to indicate that the speaker doubts the truth of the statement).”

      It is obvious Ben is really unhappy with this situation and most people see it.

    • Mikasa says:

      Harvey is still negotiating their People and Hello exclusives!! But we’ll most likely get confirmation just before the Golden Globes – if true. If it’s fake she can either stay home to let the rumours extend or torture us with more horrible shapeless dresses!

  64. ScottyisaRelic says:

    All the conspiracy theories are very, very stupid, and stupid me for stating the obvious. They’re stupid either in content, or idiotic because the women who purport them don’t even believe them , but they’re enjoying this vicious game. Get outside your rooms, there’s a life and a world out there.

    • Kat says:

      No they’re not. What’s very, very stupid is people who cannot see how this has been managed from start to finish. It’s embarrassing the way it’s played out.
      Wake up. There’s no ‘viciousness’ in seeing through what has been orchestrated in the media. This has been managed like a true PR campaign and a marriage and accidental pregnancy doesn’t change that.
      And I tell you what else is stupid .. Getting someone pregnant when you’ve been dating them for a few months and then feeling the need to propose to them. It’s not 1865 anymore and there is no warmth between these two at all .
      Cumberbatch is despicable. He has used this whole mess for Oscar publicity and that is just disgusting. I absolutely knew he’d play this trump card just before the Oscar voting finished and explains her little red carpet parade on Saturday. Appalling.

      • scarf girl says:

        ^ this. It had to be managed, because how bad can your timing get on knocking someone you have barely been dating when you are trying to sell dignified, British refinement? Tomorrow’s write up will be fab. And I will remember to refill a certain ahem, prescription.

        JustJared now carrying PageSix story. How classy, how private, having a “source” confirm pregnancy to PageSix.

      • Linz says:

        @Scarf girl

        Page Six is not reliable. Take it with a grain of salt.

      • Ingrid says:

        Scarf girl, suddenly he doesn’t seem to mind that he’s not “controlling the message”. Hmmmm…

        If real, Karon will confirm it tomorrow.
        If Harvey planted that, they will let it stew for a while.

        But we’ll know after GGs, no way he can avoid the questions now.

        The one thing that still doesn’t match: FO photo-op.

      • Felice says:

        It’s just too convenient that this is out after “One thing at a time”

      • Kat says:

        Most things are explained now. When did he start looking like misery personified? Oh yeah, about three months ago.
        But FO was clearly set up, so yeah….weird. A real relationship he wouldn’t have put out there so publicly in the early days.

        But using this rushed engagement and pregnancy as Oscar campaign pawns?
        Just terrible.

      • scarf girl says:

        Guys, JustJared doesn’t pick up every PageSix item. Just doesn’t (no bad pun). And that site is used (JJ) by PR. So the fact that they picked it up leads me to believe it will be confirmed. After that dress, before the GG, it is perfect timing to confirm. The Setlock visit-it really is a perfect PR puzzle when you take a step back.

        And yeah, my guess is a HW plant and a Karon confirmation. I don’t know if they will let it stew.

      • scarf girl says:

        Actually, we already have a confirmation of sorts. Benedict is going to be on The Ellen Show. January 14 I think. Do you think he is there just to sell Alan Turing? No. This is the opportunity to sell Benedict, the happy father to be. Because what do you sell on Ellen? You sell your personal life.

      • Ingrid says:

        Scarf girl, it all points to PR plant. The wording and JJ posting it 5 minutes after P6.

        But if it’s real, why didn’t they just confirm it right away? Seems more “proper”. IDK anymore…

      • Kat says:

        But you’re all forgetting the worst things of all..

        His people have clearly been planting leaks with the grottiest of all gossip sites – showbiz spy.
        And BC himself has been baiting this in the media too. The ‘I’ve had the most important news of my life, but it’s private’ and the ‘I have to remain coy’
        It’s all just really tacky and rather sad really. He’ll adore his child but nobody can tell me that he’s in love with her. He’s convincing himself for this but the way he interacts and always has interacted is not a man that’s besotted with the mother of his child.

        Also, I find interesting that his last comment on kids is the first time he’s said anything negative about being a parent.. The “being a godfather is great because you get the side of parenting without the headache, it’s win win”
        A shame that he says that after finding out he’s going to be a father.

      • tsmiv says:

        He’s on Ellen because he’s in an Oscar campaign.

      • moodgirl says:

        Why does every think HW is involved in this mess? HW will be so happy after the Oscars are over he will turn back flips when these two oddballs go back to London and stay there. This crap is solely the baby of Ben and Sophie. Pun intended.

      • moodgirl says:

        Maybe it really wasn’t used as pr. Maybe Sophie was just there because he thought she had to be. Once he found out about the baby he felt he had to get engaged; if he didn’t and it was found out he had a baby momma looking like a bum wandering around Britain, he would be labeled a cad.

        So he put it in The Times because it made his private problem public and he had half his problem solved. He could ease into it instead of having her show up nine months pregnant and shocking the hell out if everyone. Now they are already engaged so it isn’t as shocking and he doesn’t look so bad. So they rolled it out in two parts to try and save his reputation.

      • scarf girl says:

        Kat you and I think alike. Look, I understand if people have different opinions. And I respect that. Me, I am snarkily waiting for the video snippet of Ellen giving him his first baby gift. Because that will be the epitome, to me, of how he has used his personal life during the Oscar campaign, which to me has seemed reactionary to blogs, public perception, and oozed of weirdness. And a guy who knocked up someone right before a whole lot of publicity-well, that explains a lot. Not everything. But a lot. Not trying to influence or discredit those who think differently. Had too many fun convos with people here to do that. Peace out, and will see you at the end of the race.

      • Angie says:

        I ve been thinking maybe it’s just because deep down I don’t want to believe hes that sort of man that hv been making excuses for his behavior all this time. But I’m actually find with that now as it’s been two months, no matter what hes thinking at the beginning doesn’t matter anymore, no matter it’s fake or not doesn’t matter anymore, hes using it for PR campaign, that’s all.

      • Janet says:

        Gossipcop just gave it a 7 out of 10 on the reliability scale. They’re waiting for confirmation.

      • Linz says:

        @Janet.

        Lmao! A gossip site giving a story from a gossip column a 7 out of 10. That doesn’t mean anything.

      • KT says:

        @moodgirl

        Well, I mentioned it above, but probably because it’s pretty vintage Harvey.

      • Claire says:

        Just remember all this fluff might be coming off the backs of our speculation the other day. Don’t think those tabs don’t keep track of our comments: it’s like we do their work for them.

        I really hope it’s not true. The idea of this actor I used to like using his engagement and impending fatherhood in Faustian Oscar PR campaigning literally turns my stomach.

        Maybe some desperate Hollywood type, but him, the guy family means everything for? Wow.

  65. Cc says:

    She reminds me of a female version of Hiddles and I’m not sure whyyy ;_;

  66. tsmiv says:

    Where’s SoGo? She hasn’t posted a thing about the page 6 thing.

    • gg says:

      SoGo does leave the house occasionally….or so I am told.

      Anyway, still catching up on news. If true, Karon will confirm tomorrow and this shitstorm will be over and I can go back to my life! Hoorah. Page Six, pinch of salt, etc.

      If true, they sure as hell timed the announcement for PR purposes. And it was an oops baby. What a f#cking idiot……

      • Felice says:

        We’ll miss you xoxo. And yes he is an idiot and I just won’t be able to take him seriously anymore.

      • tsmiv says:

        I’m still unconvinced, but it would explain his uncomfortableness around the fiancee. He’s embarassed and I firmly believe he’s the type to be embarrassed by knocking up a RAC or even a serious girlfriend. I also still think she may have jumped on a gravy train. Or it could still be that that gossip sites are picking up gossip from fansites and blogs! The title of yesterday’s celebitchy thread did say “pregnant looking.” Either way I’m beginning to feel sorry for him. Actually, I already did, but more so now. Pimping out your life for an ugly trophy is gross.

      • moodgirl says:

        I can’t imagine that he has or ever will again make a mistake as big as this. He may not have ruined his career but his life, if he marries her, will be crap. The best thing he can do is break his engagement , co – parent and continue to look for his true love. She isn’t it.

      • Janet says:

        He’ll look like a complete schmuck if he breaks his engagement after her pregnancy is all over the media.

      • moodgirl says:

        I think he was just too embarrassed to reveal it and decided to wait until he could no longer avoid the situation. He has her to thank, she pushed the reveal by putting that clutch in front of her. I bet he didn’t know she was going to do that. She controls this situation and he is in massive trouble. She will not be ignored.

      • Linz says:

        @Janet.

        No he won’t. It happens all the time. Plenty of stories/reasons/excuses they can come up with.

      • KT says:

        Well, technically, if you’re saying there was an ‘accident’ baby-wise, timing is out of their hands. You can only hide it so long.

        What a mess that would be.

      • Alice says:

        @tsmiv. I made a comment similar to yours about an hour ago, but TPTB moderated it right off the page. I added that I couldn’t imagine the embarrassment he must have felt on the Sherlock set facing his colleagues after the deluge of gossip today and the release of those ghastly W photos and the Christie B. IG. I feel very sad for him, especially since his family must be mortified or angry the way they’ve withdrawn from the scene.

        Perhaps, if it’s true, BC and SH have spent time since the engagment working out custody arrangements, visitation rights, child support and a hefty cash settlement. I hope so, for his sake.

      • An says:

        He’s not been right since he played Turing, and he knows it at least unconsciously, going by some of the comments he’s made.

        Going to end up in a hospital for “exhaustion” before Oscar night, mark my words.

  67. KT says:

    I know people are up in arms, but I guess I’m just desensitized. This isn’t even near the levels of some campaigns I’ve seen in the past, and hell, I’d do it for my career.

    He may be the most unhappy person I’ve seen about it. Not positive, though, I recall how angry the SIL cast seemed back in the 1990s, but boy, that was an ugly campaign.

    • Claire says:

      I was wondering what you had to say KT, compared to other campaigns. (HBIC and Madly too). Do you think this pg rumours is more campaigning a la Aniston or do you think it’s real?

      • KT says:

        @Claire

        Hard to say because of the circumstances.

        You’ve got three different sets of PR teams at work here: one for Karon and two for Harvey. It’s unlikely they’re playing 100% nice together.

        Weinstein is NYC-based, so it could be him. The rumor may be true or false, but it’s possible Cumberbatch’s camp didn’t want to announce or plant it, which is why Karon has been silent–she’s weighing her options to avoid a pissing war.

  68. Lucifer says:

    more preggo articles. So I was right all along??BOY!!

  69. Angie says:

    hmmm, seems like another happy announcement is on the way? I hope not.

    I’m still not convinced tbh. Although the PS RC pic looks likely, there’s one from side, every time I look at that pic, it’s just weird, looks like shes pushing her front out on purpose and made her hip sticking out.

    Then the LAX one, although some of them look likely, too. The first one when they just got out of the car wasn’t holding hands, the coat puckered, seems empty underneath.

    Funny all the RC pics show most obvious bump, hes so far away from her. And that small video when they first met before going on RC, friends? yes. engaged couple at their late 30s expecting their first baby? NO WAY. And this, makes me sick to even consider it’s true.

    • Lucifer says:

      Hope NOT. we knew we r gonna go through harder times in these left two months. For us wise would be to minimize our social media presence. Let them screw themselves. But I can’t look away from this. Its an imperial affliction 😉

      • Angie says:

        As I said before, I’m actually curious what it would be if we just step away. I almost think maybe they found it too quiet, no advice from us and had no idea what to do when it’s censored here LOL.

        But you’re right, it’s too hard to look away from this ; )

      • Lucifer says:

        they ll mess up. 100%

    • anon says:

      @Alice-oh I think there’s plenty of negotiations going on behind the scenes. This baby, if true is Sophie’s meal ticket for life. And don’t forget that she arrived just in time to capitalize on a Marvel franchise.
      @Angie-totally agree. The bigger the bulge, the bigger the distance. And not one belly pat, touch, rub, nada. Actions speak louder than words-and he ain’t playing happy.
      @Kim1-I thinK if the baby is a boy-they should name him Christopher-you know-Ben’s favorite character, the one he’s getting ready to play in real life.

  70. Kim1 says:

    I said this months ago when the engagement announcement was published.I said I can’t wait to see Benedict Jr. Someone corrected me saying that don’t use Jr wherever he is from.
    HaHaHa

    • Angie says:

      Yeah, I remember that, it should be Benedict II if I didn’t get it wrong? LOL

      • Lucifer says:

        the telegraph article got pulled.. suspicious 😉 i thought it was my server error 😉

      • Claire says:

        telegraph was going to run a pg article then pulled it? interesting. interesting indeed.

    • Lindy79 says:

      I think I said I hope they don’t call it Benedict Jr. if it’s a girl

      Telegraph are reporting it now…I’d be shocked if his PR don’t make some sort of announcement today or before the Globes. Either a denial or a confirmation.
      Hope he’s sorted himself out and acts a little cheerier when reporters on the RC ask him about it than he did about the engagement.

      • Ingrid says:

        Morning ladies, I see that Schrodinger’s cat is still in the box…

        Because that Page Six article was clearly coming from PR (the quotes give it away), this is basically what is happening: (Karon is in LA) she planted that around 6 pm PT and left it to stew for the night. She could have denied /confirmed it then, but no, they are stretching it out.

        Real or fake, good god this is pathetic famewhoring…

        (Unless Missy was running her own little show on the side and they need to put a stop to it: leak it and then denied it in the morning)

      • Claire says:

        Ingrid, what gives it away as PR to you? Not that I consider PageSix a reliable source, but as someone said, Keira…

      • Angie says:

        Ingrid, I was thinking, wait, page six is an us site right? if it is, I was wondering why it didn’t come out first in one of the uk sites. Then I remembered, yeah, Karons in LA. So, who knows.

  71. AG-UK says:

    No doubt from these photos… she is about 3-4 but I would say 4 + as you can see from her walking man that was quick she was probably preg. 2 months into dating.

    http://pagesix.com/2015/01/06/benedict-cumberbatch-and-sophie-hunter-expecting-a-cumber-baby/

    • Claire says:

      So by all accounts they started dating in June at the earliest. So you’re trying to convince us she was pregnant by August, when he was seen with other women? That would know make her about 5 months along.

      • AG-UK says:

        yeah it was early here so bad math.. I think you are right close to 5 months and from that photo looks like it to me. Dating June, preg by August?? I don’t know who the other women would have been as I wasn’t really paying attention but from that photo it looks like 4/5 months??? Depends on the person I suppose, I didn’t wear maternity clothes until I was 7 months mainly because they were hideous just bigger reg. clothes.

      • Claire says:

        But she was seen drinking booze months ago and now.

      • Kat says:

        Oh I expect that was deliberately done. Another despicable trick to put people off the scent. The timing of this has been very carefully planned and they wanted to play this one as their trump card. How sweet and romantic.

      • AG-UK says:

        Well in the UK pregnant woman still drink NOT a lot but a glass at a function they would. But maybe she didn’t know then, who the hell knows. I guess it will all come out soon if it’s true will have to. I could care less, but timing not so great, he won’t be in the UK for months and I guess she doesn’t work so she can take the baby and bop from place to place.

      • Kat says:

        Um… No they don’t? I’ve never met one woman here who would drink while pregnant and none of my friends would even consider it. It’s really quite taboo.

  72. 'P'enny says:

    This is all marvellous, Harvey W has take over the American distribution rights to Macbeth. I can’t wait to see how he moulds Fassbender into a PR lovely marvel. I wonder who he will find to drape his arm and make him respectable. Or will Harvey’s focus be on Marion C instead?

    what a mess, I dared ventured on the SOGO sight and the inside gossip is shocking – thing is there a lot more smoke to imply a big flame. I’m really worried that this is going to really blow-up Benedict’s face now.

    • Gracie says:

      As I said in a post that got eaten, it’s like waking up to yet another shitstorm. Whatever happened to controlled message? Is this controlled (or however he phrased) looks like?

    • Lindy79 says:

      IF it’s confirmed by them then, well it’s always just going to look, no matter how romantic people say the Times thing was, that he proposed because she told him she was pregnant as the timing fits.

      They’d have been better off just staying a couple, having the baby and then getting married, this just looks like he’s a delusional old fart who doesn’t want a baby out of wedlock and his demeanor kind of confirms that to me. He does not look like a guy who is getting everything he wants, professionally and personally. I don’t give a shit what any of his nanny fans say. He beams when talking about the film and interacting with the cast and shuts down/becomes emotionally and verbally stunted when talking about her. Hell he used the word “adore” about Olivia even after they broke up, what words of love has he used for Sophie? The woman I love, the woman I proposed to.

      Maybe it’ll all work out and he was planning on spending the rest of his life with her and having kids with her anyway but….I doubt it.

      • Claire says:

        But but but but but but…didn’t he just say days or weeks ago that he wanted kids of his own “someday”? Or was that to make it sound distant to make the announcement more shocking?

        All this makes me wish someone in his inner circle would punch him

      • Lindy79 says:

        I have no idea. This could all but complete nonsense. Nothing would surprise me.

      • Kat says:

        It all fits. He looks miserable because she’s not the one and the weird and bizarre attempts at making it sound like she is (forevermore speech was positively creepy) are because he knows this.
        He proposed because of it and that’s obvious and explains the change in him a few months ago.
        No way is that a man who’s found the woman of his dreams and the the man who so desperately wanted to be a father now looks like he does?

        Worst of all he’s using the whole thing to grab some Oscar publicity. Her mock coy display with the clingy dress on the red carpet was planned and that’s revolting.

      • Grace says:

        I am still not 100% convinced. If it is true, then good luck to him. I will say, however, this whole thing has been handled disgracefully since day one.

  73. Grace says:

    Testing!

  74. Claire says:

    Hoping HBIC and Madly come on to share their esteemed opinions on this latest Oscarmongering

  75. Claire says:

    Ingrid, don’t want this to get caught up in the threads above, but hats off to you for seeing JJ picked up the story 6 minutes after P6. Your eyes on this is incredible. I have no idea if this lessens the accuracy of the story – you ladies seem more schooled up on this ugly business than I do, but I hope it means you’re right. fingers crossed.

  76. Claire says:

    For what it’s worth, while we’re all still in purgatory over this, Gawker is skeptical of Gossip Cop, but…

    http://www.cjr.org/behind_the_news/gawker_ranks_the_rumor_mills.php?page=all

    So how can we know that Gossip Cop’s “source” is better than In Touch’s “Insiders”? (If we go by sheer numbers, there seem to be more insiders than sources…) Lewittes said the difference is that he has better sources—even if these sources often end up being unnamed in the site’s reports. “You’d be surprised how many contacts and insiders you can create over nearly two decades,” he said. “Now, when there’s a story involving a celebrity, I have three or four different angles to get to that person and the truth of the story.” But as even the most casual reader of Page Six and the like knows, the stars’ reps lie to the press all the time. How can you know when you’re not getting hosed by a rep who’s been ordered to cover something up, or at least lead people astray until an agreed-upon exclusive can be doled out? Lewittes said the role that he and his site can play in helping knock down erroneous gossip causes key sources deal with him straight up. “Once we got burned by subject of the story who on the record told us she was not pregnant and then the next day [told] Extra or Entertainment Tonight that she was pregnant,” he said. “So we came back to readers and we said, ‘Look we quoted her and she lied to us.’”

  77. Koodles says:

    I see that the fail has an article about this…no confirmation of course, but, I did have a good chuckle at Benedict’s face in the first picture. She is looking at him and he is looking into the camera and has this face like he is going to be sick.

    • Claire says:

      Just wondering, is it common for a pg rumor to be this widespread only to be false? I only say because it’s clearly out there now so widely and they’ll have to confirm/deny at some point.

      • Koodles says:

        @Claire-it’s happened several times to Jennifer Aniston.

      • Claire says:

        Ta Koodles. How widespread did those rumours go? Did it spread to all the tabloids and even a couple serious outlets?

      • Claire says:

        I’m going to work soon. Feel free to paste my comments onto the next thread so they get read!

  78. Claire says:

    I guess I just don’t get why he’d give those interviews like the Elle UK one that talked about fatherhood where it may or may not have been something happening soonish, and then said very recently he would have kids of his own “someday”. I just don’t get any of this. None of this makes sense. This is getting into Beckett territory.

    • Oh Hey says:

      He’s a crap liar. It went from ‘can’t wait to have kids’ (then all the nannies saying ‘pick me!’) then him retracting and saying “I can’t just get ANYONE pregnant, it has to be a relationship first’. Oh how ironic. Because he got someone pregnant without having a relationship, then denies, backtracks, and poorly explains the whole lot of it trying to lie about what really was going on. Good grief, he’s so gullible.

  79. Claire says:

    I asked this in the last thread, I’ll ask it again. Assuming this is all real, how do you decide to settle down and have a kid with someone so quickly and no sooner use them as part of a, soul-killing and pimping Oscar campaign? Did he sell his soul at one point?

    • Kat says:

      Well exactly. This is my point. He’s clearly not happy as a self confessed broody man should be. He has no natural warmth for her, I don’t care what the nannies say.
      But you’d think he’d choose to protect this from the Oscar campaign yet instead he’s chosen to do the opposite.

      I think he’s looked super tense this last week but interesting enough, she’s never looked happier and is apparently loving her role as ‘coy don’t notice me on the red carpet’ lady.

    • Grace says:

      Best guess, if this is all true and he just used the relationship for PR, I am not saying I am convinced, I think it’s a lot of things happening at the same time all coming to a halt. Perhaps she became pregnant (I am having trouble wrapping my head around it both ways, either accidents do happen or he’s just so careless, *facepalm* either way, let’s run with that) and he had some very unrealistic ideas about HW’s way of doing business, and then it just so happens that he needed a reason to stay in the headlines. Oooops baby, looking like zombies on the red carpet, smug looking wife-to-be. Here you go.

      Let me be perfectly honest, even if they get married, I don’t think I can stop myself from side-eying. There are so many ways to promote films and advance your career. He played the game and played the victim. I am sorry. Can’t have it both ways.

  80. Claire says:

    And because i refuse to shut up, just a reminder many of the ladies predicted there would be pregnancy rumours amping up come January for the home stretch Oscar push.

  81. Kat says:

    I have to laugh at these articles claiming she wore a dress to ‘hide the bump’ …wtf?
    They are surely taking the piss. Are they blind?

  82. Oh Hey says:

    Is there a problem with posts being eaten again?

  83. Oh Hey says:

    Uh oh, Daily Fail is running it – how long can they continue to deny it? Announcement in 4….3…2….