SPOILERS for last night’s Grey’s Anatomy
Earlier this week, Page Six had an interesting story about Patrick Dempsey and how he hates being on Grey’s Anatomy and how Shonda Rhimes kind of hates him too. Sources accused Dempsey of “diva behavior” and said that even though Dempsey recently signed a new contract with Grey’s, that Shonda was looking for a way to push him out. Well… that Page Six story was timely, wasn’t it? On last night’s Grey’s Anatomy, Dempsey’s Dr. Derek Shepherd died.
Since I don’t watch GA, I found about this news this morning, as every single site is covering it like it’s a real death. I sort of feel sorry for the GA fans who missed the show last night, or just taped it with the idea of watching it later today. Big spoilers, y’all. McDreamy is DEAD. Twitter apparently erupted last night and all the GA fans are now pretty pissed at Shonda Rhimes. I’m not! I like the idea of killing a character off because the actor is a diva. That should happen more often in television.
You can read a recap of the episode here – people are mad that McDreamy died in a car crash after he witnessed a car crash and saved a bunch of people. It does seem… I don’t know, kind of like lazy storytelling? But whatever, I can never get into these shows anyway.
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Haven’t watched since Shonda made Izzy’s character revive a deer in the back of a pickup. She certainly loves to punish actors that leave.
Plus, the George actor (I cannot even remember his name) who supported Heigl when she was at war with Rhimes. She killed him off as well. She has said very clearly that she has a no diva rule. My guess is that her rule is really more along the lines of “there’s only one diva on my shows and that’s me!” But whatever. I think Dempsy’s off screen antics and all the gossip ad rumors swirling around that may have done him in as much as being a diva.
She didn’t kill him off because of Heigl, he asked to leave the show thinking he would make it in movies (hahah no) and he used the Isiah Washington scandal to his advantage doing the talk show circuit saying the fight was about him being Patrick’s fag or something to that affect. Turns out though Isiah and Patrick got into it it was never about T.R. Knight. Shonda wasn’t happy he did that.
The deer story line is when I stopped watching as well.
I stopped watch four seasons back when they brought in all those obnoxious new interns. I couldn’t stand any of them. And the old characters seemed to be getting stale and tired. Shonda should have pulled the plug on this show years ago.
I stopped when Meredith died in a bombing and came back from the dead. It was too much soap and not enough real, which is what initially drew me into the show.
Honestly the series has been on for close to decade, I’m sure Patrick (and many other actors are bored) and ready to do other projects. Shonda does other stuff too, maybe it’s time to let greys atantomy die.
“It was too much soap and not enough real, which is what initially drew me into the show.”
This describes the entire show perfectly. The first few seasons were great and I was a huge fan of the show, but Grey’s is basically a night-time soap opera now. It got too ridiculous for me about 6 years ago. I know Shonda thinks she is incredibly gifted and I respect that she has fans, but if you’re a really good writer, you don’t need all the sensationalism she relies on. Nearly all of her main characters have been killed off, and at least 1 character is killed in a ridiculous, farfetched way every season.
Ha! That;s the same episode that did it for me too.
Drowning. But the point stands.
I stopped when Izzy started seeing dead people.
… And having “sex” with said dead person. Just too much. I still watch but a “friend” on FB spoiled it last night. She got a earful for sure. I was going to watch this morning. Maybe I will maybe I won’t. The show has sucked so bad this season.
Supernatural has a running joke about this show. Their version is called Doctor Sexy. Got the doctor seeing ghosts, the hot doctor with the “Mc” for the cute nickname, and all the drama that seems to crazy to work.
I stopped when Izzy cut the LVAD wire and didn’t get fired. Cause in real life, she wouldn’t still be a doctor.
What will they do for the series finale? An asteroid lands on the hospital and the screen goes black?
Yeah, that was season 2, the last good season in this series. Season 3 was ok, but it seemed that when Isaiah W. left, the best writers of the show left with him.
Why does it always have to be death. Cant actors be replaced or simply move away. So many crazy death scenarios.
Well. Addison…moved, I wonder if they’ll have Kate Walsh make an appearance?
That writer’s room must have really hated Heigl. Between the deer, ghost sex, Gizzie… her stuff was just the worst.
Once I found out that the woman who produces the absurdly ludicrous Scandal, with the horrible acting and ridiculous plots, I felt glad Imhad never wasted time on GA. She thinks she’s gifted? Snort!!!
+1000
@Nancy Thank God for people like you.
@Nancy. I totally agree. I just don’t get why people think Kerry Washington is so brilliant. She has got to be one of the worst examples of overacting ever.
I wish someone would tell her, because she ruins the whole show. In fact she makes it un-watchable.
As for Greys Anatomy, McDreamy got the laziest send off ever. It did not do justice to one of the originals, who has carried the show for years. People certainly don’t watch it for the boring interns, overacting Amelia Shepard ( who told her she can act?) or the ‘I only have one leg, so there’ Arizona.
He’s going through a divorce and anyone who’s been there understands the stress that comes w that. Maybe his TV family should have extended him some support & given him time off? Firing him seems cruel, especially since he’s already going through one major life change.
My thoughts exactly. Vindictive Shonda couldn’t calm her ego and just sent him to DC, she had to kill him in an unoriginal way, knowing that would hurt so many fans. PD is not a diva, he is just having personal issues, like every single person. He is not a machine. Hope he finds happiness.
Shonda has repeatedly said she has a no diva rule. As much as I think her shows are overhyped soap operas, I really respect that attitude, esp. esp. in showbiz.
At the same time I can’t blame someone for wanting to leave that show after 10 YEARS. Gah.
Scandal and How to Get Away with Murder are very over-the-top but both shows are very good at it.
It’s funny, I’ve never seen a single episode of GA before (seemed boring/bland) but I’m a huge fan of Scandal and HTGAWM.
Shonda is a fantastic writer and I love her ability to get past the usual Hollywood egos and enforce her “no divas” rule on the sets. She’s a great feminist and role model for all women, and has given so many POC work opportunities on her shows.
Good riddance to Patrick’s ridiculous ego and diva ways, and GO Shonda!
Agreed. I used to LOVE Grey’s up until the Izzy mess. LOVEDDDD Scandal till the whole mess with Olivia’s father and Fitz and Jake. HTGAWM is just drama drama drama with a good cast. It’s unwatchable.
I wonder if Shonda has ever stopped to think it’s her diva personality that people can’t take, which is why they leave.
It’s funny how some people automatically assume that being a talented black female writer with multiple successful shows under her belt automatically equals diva. But it’s great that she tackles these very same issues on her shows.
No, my perception of her being a diva doesn’t even come from her being a black woman. It’s come from all the people working with her, having issues with her. Maybe it’s not them and her because after awhile you need to look at yourself and realize your problems. I would say the same thing if she were a black man, Asian woman or man, or a white woman or man. My views wouldn’t change. People have to make everything about race.
Perhaps the perception of her as a diva comes from her quote that she’s the only diva allowed. Her own words. Motivated by neither race nor gender.
When did anyone mention race or gender? Let’s not be one of “those” people and just accept that she herself has claimed to be a diva and the comments are motivated simply by that. Smh
I think you are right. As for her being black, I had no idea what she looked like until like 2,3 years ago, after Izzie and George debacles.
She kills everyone. I guess they’re all just big divas, every last one of them. I’ve never seen a producer have such conflicts with their actors, and for it to become so public and messy.
This! I’m beginning to think the “diva” street goes both ways. He’s been a working actor since he was a teen; do you really buy that suddenly he sprouted a ‘tude? Let’s not forget he IS going through a divorce. Maybe cut him a little slack? Imho, killing off the character everyone tuned in for was a HUGE mistake. GA will be done within two seasons.
Unfortunately Dempsey has a long time history of having a ‘tude. Its why he had to crawl back on humble hands and knees to the biz after literally being shunned by Hollywood in the late 80s early 90s after having SUCH a promising start in his career. He even talks about it in past interviews.
@OriginalTessa, I totally agree with you. Sounds to me like Shonda is the big diva because she kills off her cast repeatedly and almost all of them have alluded to her being a terrible person to work with by asking to get out of their contracts early. Katherine Hiegl committed career suicide to get away from her Shonda…LOL. I’ve seen articles for years now claiming that Patrick Dempsey was trying to get out of his contract as well periodically (I guess he would change his mind and end up staying) all because Shonda and him couldn’t get along. So who is the real diva here? Her writing is crap anyway. True talent means you don’t have to rely on pulling out all the stops and throwing sensationalism out there. I stopped watching a long time ago but my sister remains a fan and I couldn’t help but laugh when she told me how McSteamy died. Too ridiculous for my taste!
Many, many of the actors on Shonda’s shows have spoken very highly of her. Both Patrick Dempsey amd Katherine Heigl have histories of being difficult to work with. And call me old fashioned, but shouldn’t the onus be on them to get along with their boss?
Bridget
Where there’s smoke there’s fire. Shonda gets high praise from those who have jobs because of her. Or want to get back in her good graces and have to brown nose heavily.
Yes, those actors are tough to work with, but that doesn’t mean by default Shonda is any easier. She’s just in the seat of power and with that comes a certain amount of security people won’t trash you if they value their jobs. Or future jobs.
@FLORC: people aren’t always going to like their bosses, it’s a fact of life. But it doesn’t make it any less necessary to figure out how to get along with them, unless you want to get fired.
Bridget
I agree, but that wasn’t really my point.
It was that Shonda could easily be as bad if not worse than those actors with the bad reputations to work with. They are like independent contractors and Shonda is the big firm that will hire them. Should they leave that firm on bad terms that firm could ruin or harm their chances of getting hired elsewhere.
This imo has very little to do with people getting along with their bosses and more about who’s in the seat of power and why you don’t want to cross those who sit there.
@FLORC: I feel like a couple of false assumptions are being made on this thread: 1) that Shonda not getting along with some of her co-workers (many of whom have a history of being difficult to work with) automatically makes her a diva, and 2) that all praise given to her is only because people want to keep their jobs. My point is, Shonda Rimes is the show runner. She’s the grand pooh bah of Grey’s Anatomy. How is it being a diva to choose not to keep someone disruptive around?
I thought it was interesting that someone downthread said it was implied that there wasn’t even a goodbye party for Dempsey. He’s had one foot out the door for a long time. Stylistically I dont agree with the choice to kill him, but I think that’s more a question of taste rather than spite. Shonda talked for years about how Meredith and Derek were the core couple, and she knew she pushed the make-up breakup thing too many times.
Bridget
While I ofcourse admit to those assumptions I don’t believe they’re without cause. Loads of actors praise coworkers for appearances and for job security. That Shonda shows tend to have track records for killing off actors in ways that have plot as an after thought (and might even hurt the storyline) doesn’t go to her favor imo.
Shonda has been big on saying she won’t suffer divas on her sets and doesn’t like that type. Though, she has diva tendencies that even we in the cheap seats can see. You can protest certain behaviors all you want not realizing you’ve got the same tendencies.
And yes Shonda is the grand poo bah (wizard?) of those big shows. Those shows that always have diva scandals behind the scenes and have actors wanting to walk away from acting all together. And while her shows get much promotion the writing and structure gets terrible past 2nd or 3rd season. That people still watched GA post paranormal coitals was weird to me so i’m not their target demo I guess.
End of it for me it breaks down to this. Where there’s smoke… Where there is a woman that announces she wants drama free sets yet always has drame filled sets it begs a closer look.
Regarding her shows getting old fast. She does recycle storylines too often and things escalate swiftly into the absurd. Some shows are great. And they’re great because they went out before getting bad. Really bad.
Who quit acting after Grey’s Anatomy? And really, aside from Dempsey, Heigl and Knight (who was ticked he had his screen time reduced, but that’s a pretty normal actor complaint) has there been any other real drama? Chyler Leigh quit on her own (20+ episodes a year, 14 hour days, and the woman has 3 young kids) as did Eric Dane & Sandra Oh. And there’s been very little word of discord from Private Practice, Scandal, or HTGAWM. I mean, quality is an entirely different discussion (there’s an awful lot of fodder there), but I’m just not seeing a ton of diva-ness.
Bridget
A few and from her various shows. For GA it’s Ellen Pompeo. She announced after she leaves GA she doesn’t want to continue acting. It was covered here.
And Shondaland shows all seem to have actors leaving on bad terms and writers killing off characters in ways that add nothing tot the story more than other shows.
I don’t think we’re going to agree. We state eachothers opinions with support, but do not agree in the end. Agree to disagree 🙂
Show runners having trouble reigning in “stars” isn’t new at all. Both Heigl and this dbag have diva histories. Remember that Isaiah’s homophobic rant was triggered by McDreamys diva act. And with Shonda, her status as the first truly successful black female show runner means that she is a media personality too so the tiniest leak develops into a real gossip news item.
She’s the damn boss. When these “movie stars” (pardon me for referring to Dempsey or Heigl as movie stars but you know that’s how they thought of themselves prior to the sacking) make her office difficult, she has every right to not only sack them but write them off the show in a permanent fashion.
@the Other Pinky, agree. I don’t think that Shonda wanted to let Isaiah go but she had three divas that made the situation impossible. I think Isaiah used a gay slur on a hetero man while a gay man watched. In other workplaces he would have gotten a warning.
Anyway, I don’t watch GA because I don’t like watching Patrick Dempsey. He is a bad actor with GREAT hair.
Firing Isaiah was a huge mistake. That’s when the show started to crack. Personal issues with the actors needed to be kept away from the production and dealt with quietly and professionally. This shows biggest problem is that all of the internal drama leaks out and makes messes around the show. None of the actors ever seemed happy. This was never a happy set. That’s too bad. It was once a very promising show.
denismich – I don’t think it was that benign. It was reported that he specifically referred to TR Knight by saying “I’m not your/a (f word) like TR, so don’t eff with me” or something to that effect. That was blatantly offensive and not using the word in general (which I agree would warrant a warning). He specifically slurred and insulted someone.
Let’s remember she killed off Mark and Lexie too.. and the actors just wanted out, no diva behaviour or anything.
It really pissed me off when she killed off Mark and Lexie. She couldn’t just let them finally be together and ride off into the sunset, nope, she had to kill them! So ridiculous.
Littlestar, I’m so with you! She had me crying and banging the walls there. That’s when I decided to stop watching it -still keeping updated though-. What she did was totally nonsense and she shattered all the fans feelings..
I really liked Mark and Lexie and I was very upset how she killed them both off. Then I was hopeful for Owen and Cristina and she couldn’t have them leave together either. I am meh about Derek and Merideth (their love story was so much better season 1-4?) and have been half-heartedly watching since Cristina left. I will finish this show since I am a masochist I guess but I really think it is far past its expiration date. She needs to focus on How to Get Away with murder.
Yeah, two people, whose characters were in love, wanted out of the show? Give one character a transfer and have them both move! Don’t let one die in a plane crash and get eaten by animals and have the other die a month later from the same crash! SO DUMB.
Killing a character doesn’t necessarily mean that they were fired or that the actor was a ‘diva’. A lot of the time, killing a character is an opportunity to give an actor a proper send off, with a nice meaty death scene. Like Jimmy Smits on NYPD blue. Look at Katherine Heigl -her character just left. No big goodbye, no fanfare, just walked away never to be seen again. Wouldn’t that be way worse to an actor?
I think they did a good job of writing Christina off the show last year without having to kill her off. Sometimes I think killing characters off is the easy way out, instead of writing a proper goodbye for them.
It’s not like they give every character the same ending. Some characters die when the actor chooses to leave, some don’t. It isn’t necessarily an indicator of whether or not the actor was a diva.
A better indicator is the abruptness of the character’s death or departure. Sandra Oh gave a ton of notice, and the writers gave her a lot to work with for her final storyline. Sometimes the character’s end is death, sometimes it’s that they leave – but the more abrupt the exit on the show, the more abrupt the exit behind the scenes.
Don’t forget the other doctor that slept with Callie. She went into the parking lot and we never saw her again.
What pissed me off was that his death was a clear case of medical malpractice yet Meredith told the screw up surgeon that it was ok? In real life, it’s talk to my atty I’m going to shut you all down. WTF!
If there was a local hospital, that had that many of its staff being killed off… they would have no employee’s. Has anyone done a head count yet, of how many dead doctors there has been?
I stopped watching after the shooting at the hospital. Which was years ago. I was so p*ssed that the show had added some new interesting doctors. Only to kill them off.
Plus they killed George. He was always my favorite from the original group.
And when I read that Christina was leaving the hospital. I was stunned that she was not murder off. Because gawd forbid a doctor leaves that show alive.
George was indeed my favorite and his character was the one who “held” the whole cast together. Everybody got along with George.
ps: I was really P*ssed the way Mark and Lexie were killed off and I am really p*ssed as to how Mcdreamy was killed off too.
Seattle Grace/Mercy Death indeed. They kept those lousy new interns. Stop making Camilla Luddington happen, she’s not going to. Same with whiny April – stop making that one happen too.
I stopped watching when Mer/Der had that stupid non argument after he turned down the job. In retrospect, they should have divorced.
It’s like Julianna Marguiles and the people she supposedly doesn’t get along with, like Kalinda. I think JM may be the diva there.
Exactly. It always seems to be Shonda and some actor/actress having trouble. Either her shows attract an unusual number of divas or maybe the big diva doesn’t like other divas standing their ground.
Haven’t watched since the end of the third season (was that when Izzy started hallucinating Denny?) but let’s all take a moment to mourn McDreamy and his beautiful hair.
My son has that hair. I literally take Patrick Dempsey’s photo when he gets a haircut. He won the genetic lottery there. A moment of silence is appropriate.
Let’s not forget she told the doctor that botched the treatment that it’s ok. OK my butt. That’s a malpractice suit.
I can’t believe she killed off the most beloved character on that show. People were literally watching for him.
I’m only there for any second of Jesse Williams I can get!
I don’t think so. Not anymore. He wasn’t even on that much. I stopped watching Grey’s a few years ago and started up again last season at some point watching Sandra Oh’s exit. I’ve kept up with it this year, mainly because I loved the Geena Davis arc. So, I haven’t watched it yet and was spoiled from the second I woke up because they were talking about it on the radio. But whatever…I’ll watch and be sad and I’m sure its a tearjerker. But Derek wasn’t the center of anything anymore. As Christina Yang said on her way out the door, “He isn’t the sun.” I think that was prophetic and Shonda knew what she was planning even then.
yeah but he was really one of the most beloved, even if he wasn’t on it much lately.
i think the forshadowing going on all season set up mcdreamy’s departure…
whether by death or by leaving grey…
BUT
what a freakin let down as to the script.
so, meredith had to make a decision as to pull the plug or not…
and she does this within hours
WITHOUT CALLING ON HER COLLEAGUES/FRIENDS…
who are ALL revered surgeons…
not one call for another opinion to be sure…
no call for a shoulder to lean on once she makes the decision???
where’s webber?
mcdreamy’s sister – who is A NEUROSURGEON!
his SISTER!!!
alex???
i mean, WOW, shonda rimes…
sloppy, lazy, unrealistic writing.
i was so mad i was going to go on Twitter to rant…
but decided to save it for my celebitchies 😉
@bella I ranted. Everywhere. LOL but I don’t regret it because I’m just too disappointed and needs to unleash my rage at Shonda. GA needed to stop 2 to 3 seasons ago IMO.
@serena.
good for you!
i’ve watched since day 1, but the past several seasons i’ve half watched while working or reading at the same time because it lost its lustre for sure.
is anyone else out there slamming the script?
the ridiculousness of grey not calling anyone to review derek’s condition?
i mean, yeah, she’s a cool, calm mature surgeon now and is decisive.
but who acts that way when it comes to a loved one?
it was nuts…
and she had the presence of mind to talk that female doctor down and preach to her to keep going?
so so WEIRD…majorly weird.
i don’t think i can watch anymore…
not even half-watch…
@bella: Right?! I kept waiting to see if she was going to call his sister and nothing… Such a weird send off…
Don’t worry, he’s not really dead. They’re all just in purgatory and the hospital will reveal itself to be a Home Depot appliance department before suddenly cutting to black as a Queen song plays. (SPOILER! I’ve never watched the show).
Or the whole cast is in the shower with Bobby Ewing.
Sorry about the Dallas spoiler.
But the shower scene reveals itself to be only a fictional story, written by Roseanne in order to cope with the loss of Buffy after the Hellmouth opened over Sunnydale and ate her whole.
Lol abbott!
I am loving this thread.
@Abbot (I can’t reply to her) Thank you for that much needed guffaw. 😀
Hahahahaha! Love this^^
Then the camera pulls back and it shows a kid playing with a snow globe.
Edit: I swear if no one knows this reference…
How about this…
https://youtu.be/ZdNXBgces1Q
Another TV hospital… located elsewhere, perhaps?
I always confuse Twin Peaks and St. Elsewhere. Sorry, not sorry ala Renner?
Loved,loved,loved St. Elsewhere..
Love this show. Wish they would make more seasons of it available for us that didn’t grow up with it……
Yes, St. Elsewhere. The kid playing with the snow globe is suppose to have autism.
Edit: Blah. I just saw FLORC response.
St. Elsewhere was THE BEST hospital drama/soap EVER.
Eh-yup!
Wait. Wasn’t that the all in the mind of an autistic child and his snowglobe? If so that ending really upset me.
I laughed when I read that. I still watch Grey’s, I just can’t quit you, but I won’t miss Derek. They pretty much replaced him with his sister. Don’t let the door hit you on the ass on the way out!
Me too. It’s like an addition to me. I can’t quit it !
The only character I really miss is Christina Yang.
And if Mc Dreamy really dies she HAS to come back for an appearence, and I want to see dr. Yang get that Harper Avery !
I’d like to see single Meredith, but I fear she might become even more insufferable.
I don’t know if I like Amelia and I think her and Owen have a very awful chemistry…
I can’t stand Amelia, and I can’t stand her with Owen.
Why the heck did they bring Amelia to GA?? She had her story and good end in Private Practice!
I miss Cristina, but George most of all 🙁
Everyone has awful chemistry with Owen. I wish he would have an affair with April Kepner and God will drop a bolt of thunder through them and kill them off.
Ugh. This show really needs to just kill itself. The episodes are terrible, and last night was even more painful than normal. Not because Derrick died, that was probably well over due. But just because the plot lines are so predictable, cheesy, and preachy. I realize that these statements make me sound just as terrible for still watching. And that’s fair. I truly have NO IDEA why I still watch. Why do I still watch this? It’s been terrible for at least 3 seasons–maybe more. Is there a 12 step program?
The storylines are incredibly predictable. I haven’t watched a single episode since December, but every week a co-worker keeps me up to date with what happened. I predict every week what is going to happen and she would confirm it – sad! It’s just silly silly drama all the time now on the show.
Haven’t watched since about season 3 but damn…she kills more characters than Game of Thrones.
Lol, seriously. I haven’t watched in years, but when I read this all I could think was “how is it possible to have that many close friends/colleagues die by non-health related means in the span of 10 years?” I can’t imagine that doctors at Seattle Grace (or whatever the hospital is called now) are even able to get life insurance at this point. Who would insure them with that precedent?
Mc Dreamy died in a car crash.
In the other car sat Shonda Rhimes
^This. McSPLAT. 😱
Seattle Grace Mercy Death
Wow! A helluva year for Dempsey. McDreamy is dead and Dempsey’s marriage is kaput.
I just read an interview with Dempsey over at EW, yeah, there is no way to spin this buddy. Well, at least he gets paid for two more years. Or are TV contracts different and they can be voided if they are no longer working.
I would think they mutually agreed to end the contract? So no two years of pay. It would be odd if they paid him to not be there, surely?
Entertainment Weekly spoiled that he was getting killed in its latest issue. Also, in the issue it was implied that no one in the cast or crew threw him a goodbye party. It doesn’t seem like they will miss him.
Yikes ouch. Brings back to mind the Washington incident. Wasn’t the fight really between he and Dempsey?
LOL, that kind of sucks. Work somewhere for a decade and people are like “yeah OK bye.”
He got the Dr Drake Remoray-treatment.
LOL
I always loved how pissed off he looked when he had to reluctantly fall down an elevator shaft.
I haven’t watched it yet but I found out what will happen the very moment I opened the Internet this morning. What happened with the unwritten no spoilers policy? CB is one of the few websites I visited, that had a spoiler warning in the title. The rest was like: Derek is dead! Can you believe they killed off Derek?
To those who have watched: Was this episode even interesting – don’t know if I should bother now? Or was this another one like that with Mark’s death, where nothing interesting happened and all the characters were sitting around waiting for him to die as the scenes from previous seasons were shown in the background? I don’t even know why I still watch Grey’s Anatomy. Probably just to look at Kevin McKidd.
Kevin McKidd <3
YEA Kevin McKidd <3
I must say Kevin McKidd is easy on the eyes. 🙂
There were some flashbacks, but it was not good over all. No one, I mean NO ONE, from Grey-Sloan came to see Derek before Meredith pulled the plug. Derek died because the sloppy ER surgeons neglected to do a brain CT prior to surgery, and the on call surgeon was too busy eating dinner to get there on time. Derek was narrating through the entire scene, and said, “It’s too late”, before becoming brain dead.
It seemed to me that SR was too cheap to include anyone from the rest of the cast in the episode. It’s also speculated that she was mocking Patrick Dempsey, by having the cause of the original accident be a racing sports car.
Thank you. It sounds pretty bad. I will probably just fast forward through it then.
As someone who just recently lost her mother to a negligent hospital staff, doctors not doing a CT scan after I asked for them repeatedly, and staff admitting they were cutting back on tests due to everyone being off for Valentine’s Day, I had a lot of different emotions running through this episode and had to turn it off before it finished as it was way too similar in the end for me and his inner monologue cut me to the core. However, I think it was interesting how it brought to light that not every hospital is like Seattle Grace. Not every hospital is a teaching hospital. And the doctor becoming the patient. I identified with a lot of it, especially Meredith, and it was sad to see an original character killed off after so many seasons, but yet it always is for me. Unfortunately scenes like the hospital Derek was taken to happen way too often.
Sorry for your loss – that is just awful.
Lots and lots of hugs and love for you Robino, I am so very sorry.
I quit watching last season and I have no regrets. They keep recycling the same story lines and I’m over it. RIP Derek.
I thought this was going to be a thread about Scandal and Jake. That show just got really lazy in the story too.
That is another show I haven’t watched since the first episode this season. I’m over Olivia and the President. She is a strong woman but damn girl, move on.
M.A.F.
My 2nd paragraph might have spoilers, but the 1st doesn’t give anything away that isn’t known already.
Jake as a character had substance and depth.
Then out of nowhere Olivia wears his grandmother’s wedding ring…
When she imagined her life with Fitz in Vermont it was a total panic attack and not realistic. He wouldn’t give up his place for her. Jake did and followed through.
As the story goes Fitz becomes more corrupt and a better match for his wife.
Then that new guy came in to the picture and you just knew he was B613.
I don’t really like any of the characters at this point and last nights episode was the 1st I wanted to miss since the show began.
I used to love Scandal, it was a something bit different. But she’s gone over the top with the blood and gore now. Why does everything this Shondra do have to be so grossly sickeningly violent. Its like every show is a tribute to Sam Peckinpah.
From now on I’m going to read the Fug girls recaps and quit watching.
I was thinking the same! I never watched GA but Scandal has become really boring since last season…it’s lost it’s charm.
I really enjoyed the first season or 2, but lately Scandal has annoyed me. It’s so over the top, there’s never a moment of calm, and everyone is too wordy and obnoxious. I keep saying I’m going to stop watching, but it shows up on my DVR and I play it.
I only lasted about 2 seasons with Grey’s Anatomy too, that seems to be the standard for Shonda shows. Still better than Ryan Murphy shows, which usually are a mess by the end of the first season.
I’m over Scandal now. I liked the first season and maybe, just maybe, half of the second season. I stopped watching after about 6 episodes in this year.
Sounds like ABC’s Thursday lineup, which has been hyped up so much, is a total dud to me. I quit watching GA a few years ago. Tried watching both Scandal and HTGAWM but just couldn’t get with either one. How about a whole new Thursday lineup next fall without Shonda’s touch.
Shonda wrote herself into a trap she doesn’t seem to know how to extricate herself from. What hooked so many viewers on Scandal was the OMGWTF moments that blew people out of their shoes. It was like every episode there was at least one point where you’d jump up and yell at the screen. Shonda loaded up every episode with WTFs until there were so many they overwhelmed the plot line. Once you’ve gone overboard, how do you regain control? Lately she seems to be trying to rein it in somewhat but now people are complaining that the show has gotten boring because there aren’t enough WTFs any more. You can’t string together a bunch of WTFs and substitute those for a coherent storyline. That’s just lazy, sloppy writing.
loved the first two seasons of Grey’s. Season three was okay and then it just accelerated downhill (IMO). I hate watched for awhile but had to give up.
First couple seasons were world class television. I’d argue there was no better drama on basic cable at the time. Now? I haven’t watched since Lexie got eaten by wolves, so… Shonda seems like a sadist. She puts her characters through too much pain, and the viewers are desensitized to any real emotion the show might provoke.
I get why they fired Isaiah W but honestly after Burke left the show was never the same. Christina needed a Burke — Owen was just a sad, subpar replacement. Then all the George/Callie/Izzie/Meredith stuff was just awful and I have up.
Shonda looks really pretty there. Also, I’m starting to think shonda is the real diva.
Appears to me that her hat size has increased the past couple years—three shows at once are about to blow her head up to gigantic size along with her ego.
If every actor was fired for being a “diva” then Hollywood would be a ghost town
+1
After Will Gardner got killed off The Good Wife, no character’s death shocks me. That death was completely out of the blue.
RIGHT?? Not only out of nowhere, but it was such an awful way for him to die, too!! I figured he must have ticked off the writers or something for them to do him like that!!
I’m still traumatized over Will’s death!
In theory I like Rhonda’s ‘no diva’s’ rule, but in reality it seems like she’s the diva, throwing tantrums because her actors aren’t as invested in her shows as she is. She ruins her own shows by giving actors she has conflicts with terrible storylines, and then she blames them for leaving and ruining her vision for the show.
Seems like she can’t separate the show and what’s good for the show from her personal feelings for the actors. That’s not good.
+100 *CLAPS*
Great theory
She’s the creative force and leader of three major shows. The actors are supposed to follow her direction because she’s the boss. Why do some people have such a problem with a black woman being in charge?
And what does any of that have to do with her being black or a woman?
I’m a woman, I’m black. I’m a proud feminist. I also a fan. I have seen every grey since the first episode. And I think that they should have done into the sun. We should have had the right to a happy ending reunion.
Each time she’s not happy with an actor she kills his/her character. Twice with bad stories and useless death.
No matter her feeling for Dempsey she owed us, you know the public that made her a success, that’s been true to Grey’s McCouple for 11 years a better ending. And that has nothing to do with sexism or racism.
+ 1
I have a problem with anyone of any color whose success has gone to their heads.
I agree. Any time I think of “ghost sex” I feel sorry for Katherine Heigl.
Last season they gave a minor character (Leah) a nice sendoff. I mean, Webber fired her b/c she sucked at surgery, but she had a nice exit scene that gave the character a bit of dignity. And I thought they gave Eric Dane’s character a nice sendoff as well. They waited until the next season and showed video flashbacks while he was dying. He even got a Six Feet Under death card!
Heigl’s last scene? Justin Chambers breaks up with her with ‘I don’t deserve you. I’m too good for you.’ Yikes. It kinda seemed like Shonda was writing from the heart on that one.
I only ever watched the first episode. They already did that show, and did it better. It was called ER.
They already did ER. It was called St. Elsewhere.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medical_drama_television_programs#Americas
They already did St. Elsewhere. It was called a dozen other things.
LOL. I can’t believe General Hospital is still going strong.
Preach it! Mark harmon was so cute back then! And Howie Mandell with a head full of hair.
I’m not quite old enough for that. I remember it being on, but I wasn’t old enough to “get” anything about it.
I did, however, understand Magnum PI, knight Rider and Dukes of Hazard. Selective memory, I guess?
I like the no diva attitude rule in theory but at the same time it seems incredibly childish and spiteful to kill off a character every time an actor pisses you off.
Success and a little power went to her head. Old story.
I saw the previews and thought it was obvious what was coming. Do you know what my first thought was? “People are still watching that show?” It just seems like its moment was…8 years ago. I wish more showrunners took a page from Ricky Gervais’ book and ended shows when they’re in their prime rather than letting them limp along until they need to be shot (I’m looking at YOU NCIS, CSI, Scandal, et. al).
Her shows never stay good for very long.
I’ve often thought she’s like Ryan Murphy. Great shows until the 2nd or 3rd season. Things start getting over complicated and writing gets sloppy.
She needs to do what he did. Create a show that every season is the 1st glorious season like American Horror Story.
P.S. AHS Hotel should be amazing. So many possibilities!
I thought Coven was really good, I liked that it was such a female driven season. HATED Freak Show though. HATE IT SO MUCH. No driving storyline or plot, no characters that you loved or loved to hate, no real surprises. I didn’t even finish the last few episodes (my sister filled me in on them and all I thought was “wtf, ridiculous”).
I’m excited for Hotel too!
Littlestar
Freak Show was terrible. Completely awful. And how they tried to tie up asylum with it just didn’t seem natural. I understand they tried to wrap it up for Jessica Lange, but it wasn’t that good imo.
I hatewatched the last few episodes hoping there would be a payoff. Nope.
And I had some issues following a few scenes. Like where 1 twin ate the cupcake (but didn’t?). And the little one was killed, but then wasn’t killed, but then really was. wtf was that about? it never got explained. Best thing about it was that freaky clown that lasted only a few episodes.
I have high hopes for Hotel. And Emma Roberts won’t be in it so it can only improve. Though, it’s missing Taissa Farmiga still.
@FLORC, I’ve been behind on the casting news, so I’m jumping up and down with happiness that Emma Roberts is out this season. I’m hoping Denis O’Hare is out as well – his characters are always absolutely vile, and not in a good way. Freeing Evan Peters from Emma and Taissa sounds promising, and I’m assuming he’ll work closely with Kathy Bates.
I don’t see that Lily Rabe is back, so that’s very disappointing. And I’m shocked that Chloe’s back – she openly stated how negative her Asylum experience was.
Mayamae
He is creepy. He has the potential as an actor to have great range, but that will be limited in AHS. You’re the sap who gets it or the monster who gets it.
I miss taissa as a cast member. There doesn’t have to be a love interest. I just think the show was better with her than without her (freak show).
And don’t fret! Lily Rabe wasn’t listed as a cast member for freak show until the episode with her and her asylum role aired. It’s been heavily hinted she’ll be back for Hotel. Just not a regular cast member.
1 think i’m thankful for besides besides no Emma (though scream queens seems promising). There will be no Paulson vs. Lange showdowns. That made the supreme revelation in Coven all too obvious..
That’s why I love my K Dramas so much!
I don’t know. Last night’s episode should have been a tearjerker all the way around, and yet that wasn’t the case. It was lazy storytelling and it felt like Shonda’s attempt at an “Abyssinia, Henry” type episode. The foreshadowing that he was going to die was so heavy it felt like it would be a fakeout, and the actual fakeouts (there were fantasy scenes that he was taken to his own hospital and that Meredith later visited him post-op) didn’t help. Then playing Chasing Cars at the end felt really manipulative.
That’s the way I felt (although I loved hearing Chasing Cars b/c for some reason I started to like the song about eight years after I first heard it on GA). I kept waiting for Derek to wake up due to all the imagined sequences.
And Dempsey gave the flattest line reading ever, considering the character was being killed by other doctors. And Ellen Pompeo just looked pissed off. She gave an interview about Heigl recently saying the thing that bothered her with Heigl was that she renegotiated her contract, then wanted out right after she signed. I wonder how she feels about Dempsey wanting out after he signed his latest contract.
As I posted the other day, I will be very happy if Jo leaves and Meredith & Alex get together.
Oh, I love that idea!!
I read the recap and it sounded like really, really sloppy writing.
OR like a slap in the face. Like, “you’re not even getting a glorious death while you’re saving people from a car accident… your car accident will be stupid and boring a few minutes later, and it will be because your character was distracted — not heroic. And you’re not even going to die instantly, or at the hospital you call home. Nope, it’s going to be idiot doctors who make a really preventable error.”
She must really hate him.
“stupid and boring a few minutes later” – lmao that cheered me up Brittney
I haven’t watched since Izzie lived and George didn’t.
But I recall a couple years ago that he said he wanted to get out of acting to race full time? So maybe he’s pretty happy about it.
I still watch. Last night’s episode was sad and pretty ridiculous all at the same time.
I haven’t watched this show really in years, save an episode here or there, but it does sound like lazy storytelling on how she killed him off.
I stopped watching after last season when Cristina Yang (Sandra Oh) left GA. But Dempsey has hinted for years he wanted off the show. Plus, yesterday, before the show even aired, the cat was already out of the bag about his character’s death.
Diva or not (and I think that’s shonda spin) killing off the main male character in a random non sweeps week episode is lazy writing and insulting. The character who is part of the lead couple of the show-the coue that has been since minute 1 of the pilot episode. It was rushed. It was sloppy. It was out of place with the rest of the season and where the story was heading. Even Patrick Dempsey admitted it was a last minute change written in March. Shondas only shocking twist is to kill off characters. Great first seasons and then death death death.
Frankly the only diva I see is shonda. This is just not how you treat someone you have worked with for the past 11 years and that was basically the second character. Who just signed a 2 year contract. Between this and Christina leaving I’m officially done.
She did that!! I am fully enraged. Now, I understand that Dempsey probably wanted out and he was being an ass.. but killing off ANOTHER one of the main cast NO. It’s becoming a joke now ‘oh did Shonda kill another one?’. Because apparently there’s not enough drama, so every season someone must die for the sake of ratings.
Frankly, since the Mark & Lexie thing I don’t watch it anymore. I love a good dramatic tv show, but not one that depresses me, I want to be happy watching it not just cry like a river. It’s insane.
You get emotionally attached to characters and follow them for 11 years.. and there she goes, another death because Patrick Dempsey was pissing her. Way to overkill.
She shows no respect at all for the loyal fans who followed her since the start! Even though I don’t watch it anymore, Im really pissed off!
It’s not even right! You don’t like an actor? Fine, fire him and let the character go somewhere far away. But why the hell should she kill him for that? She killed almost half of her cast by now!
+1
I never watch end the Tv show but why to kill the characters when she dislikes the actors
That’s how she does things. I really am convinced now that SHE is the real diva. Dereck Sheperd was a beloved character and fans loved him (not talking about Patrick Dempsey), she really doesn’t show respect for fans while it’s thanks to them that she’s at her 12 season with GA. Hope this marks the end of this show. It became just too terrible.
Well it appears she has problems with many actors lately, i wonder now who’s the real diva…
Dempsey’s instagram used to say something like ‘I’m play fake doctor but I’d rather be racing’ not very gracious towards the show that seems to have put a roof over his head.
Still, as a long time GA fan and one of the few still watching, this feels like the biggest blow ever and poor Pompeo left there w/o Sandra or Patrick for chemistry, and IMHO kevin mckidd/justin chambers etc aren’t strong enough to carry the show on – you guys had it right to quit in the early years!
i saw an interview last year wher he hinted that it´s time to leave the show or that the show should end after season xy. Boy wanted out of his contract sooo badly… and Shonda doesn´t realize when it´s time to end a show. How many bombs, cancer treatments, kidnapping, hostage-taking, aircrashs, ferry accidents and whatever can the same characters survive? Shonda lost the plot 6 seasons ago and she likes to kill the charcters of actors who want better not so overdramatic stories…says more about Shonda´s ego than the “diva-actors”
Agree
Shonda must be really difficult to work for. There is always on set drama.
I stopped watching this show years ago, but my Mom has watched all 11 seasons (twice) and after lasts nights episode she will not be watching season 12 because of how huge of a loss Dempsey’s character is to the show. After Sandra Oh/ Christina Yang’s departure from the show, I can see why people are PISSED that they killed off Dempsey/Shepherd. I don’t know, it seemed a bit much. Even though I don’t watch the show anymore, my Mom explained to me how exactly it was that he died, and it seemed totally disrespectful (and drawn out) to the character and actor AND the fans. Like he didn’t just die, he suffered and then died, and people who have been watching this show since the beginning had to sit through this and take it in. Needless to say, a lot of people (women) at my job are currently talking about how they ugly cried at the TV. I’m happy I stopped watching when I did.
He died at the hands of incompetent doctors and his wife said it was “ok.” That’s the most insulting thing written for fans.
I haven’t watched this season but I’m really shocked at his departure and the way Shonda did it, his character didn’t deserve that lazy ending and she’s capable of much better writing, disappointing. Ellen and Patrick had fantastic chemistry from the start and I still loved the show simply because of them, yes it’s cheesy and ridiculous but man I’m sad to see him go! Diva on set or not he has many loyal fans and it won’t be the same without him, bet it won’t last much longer anyway.
I have watched GA since the beginning. While I don’t think he should have died, I don’t see what else they could have done to get rid of him. They were about to split up (Meredith and Derek) so I think they should have just divorced and been done with it.
better divorced than dead. at least there was a plot.
I stopped watching years ago, but from what I’ve read, fans understand that the only way for Derek to go without being the bad guy was dying. But, theyre dissapointed in how Shonda chose to kill him off, it was lazy and Meredith acted out of character.
Sigh. I haven’t watched this show since she killed off T.R Knight’s George character off so stupidly… Boy, was I mad. Yes, yes, it’s just a TV show, bla bla bla…but the truth is, the fans who watch these shows invest in the shows emotionally. I want to watch a show where I enjoy myself, not where I feel punished. Urgh. Really, George’s death put me off the show…he was already signed up and going to the army, why kill him off so badly in a car accident and have no one recognize him and guys only realize who he is in the last few minutes of the episode? Urgh. *punches wall* I’ll not even get started on Scandal. Sloppy, sloppy, terribly sloppy.
This is also exactly why I stopped watching Person of Interest after they killed off Taraji. I want to watch a fun, interesting show, not to be emotionally abused!!
*rant over*
I totally get you.. I feel so mad, my heart… sigh
Dude got hit by a semi, right? Dempsey must’ve REALLY pissed Shonda off.
I’ll continue to watch. Despite how obvious the set-up was that Derek would be gone soon. I haven’t been invested in his character in awhile – there hasn’t been much of a storyline with him.
Christina is missed, but the characters of Bailey, Owen, Alex, Meredith, and the chief are still worth watching, especially Bailey and Owen. There’s character development there, while still staying true to their characters. Amelia is uninteresting, and same goes for the residents.
If the remaining actors on the show were smart, they would jump ship asap. This show is going to go down the drain. As will both her other shows. Good riddance.
You know what is really sad… she probably is thinking how great it is for everyone to be talking about this, and totally not seeing, hearing and believing the downright anger people are feeling.
At this point, I think she has out smugged Oprah. SHonda seems to have an air about her that screams ” you peons are lucky I am creating these shows for you”!
Instead of her jumping the shark, she jumped sharknado!
Why should Shonda put up with his or anyone else’s BS? Dempsey was a diva. He signed up for another 2 years knowing he didn’t want to be there anymore. He’s a grown ass man, who could have said…nope, I’m done, write me out. Instead, he acted a diva and collected his checks, while making everyone else caters to his whims and moods. I don’t blame Shonda for handling business. That’s what male showrunners do, and that’s what she’s done for years.
+1 good riddance to bad rubbish
Izzy survived though. Of all the people that Shonda wanted to horribly kill off, Katherine Heigl’s character made it out unscathed, even after Shonda admitted to writing her a cruel offscreen death.
I read somewhere it was because Katherine never showed up for her last episode or something.
Seems Shonda herself isn´t very professional. She is the boss(!) and should act like a pro(!), but she likes to feed the press and threats to give her actors cruel character deaths. Seems she is as over-dramatic as the storylines she writes
A lot of car crashes are actually caused by rubbernecking, so while it may not be the most riveting story move, it isn’t unrealistic. Maybe I just feel that way because I work in a hospital, and you wouldn’t believe some of the dumbass stuff we see come in.
I have to admit Shonda’s control over the show is pretty impressive. How often are actors forced to take a backseat to writers? If he really was being a diva, well…that’s on him. The rest of the cast behaves while in the sandbox, so why not him? We can talk all we want about what a diva Rhimes herself may be, but she’s dominating television right now. She’s got the power. Everybody knows she does and what her reaction will be if you cross her, so why do it? The show is ten years old and still running. Those actors are making bank on it, so my sympathy can only extend so far.
i feel that this end was definitely lazy- in parallel with much of the writing on this show as of late. The production is weak as well- when you watch the first few seasons, no one needed to be as made-up as they are now. You could hear the actors speak. Now the production is over done, and the surgeries are really fake. If Derek had brain surgery as he supposedly did in last night’s episode, when Meredith arrived, his hair would have been shaved off. It’s little misses like that, when added up over time the show has become a parody of itself. They could have just ended the show with Meredith going off to DC next year if they wanted to keep the show going. No one needed to see Derek’s character to believe he was still alive. Throw in some Meredith calls or texts or fake skype calls, and have Patrick guest star in the show finale in a year or so. Done. Yesterday’s writing had to be a decision that was made out of anger and emotion. Similar to dead Deny sex and revived deer.
sooo true!!!
I liked the handling of the last scene, showing clips of them with Chasing Cars playing in the background.
I’d read he wanted out for a while and dgaf towards the end.
I truly can’t stand the overacting by Olivia’s father on Scandal. Every time he comes on the screen I want to throw a remote at tv.
I was so happy when he just up & shot Russell in the arm last night when he didn’t like what Russell had to say. If they would let Pa Pope fire warning shots into people instead of giving them an over-the-top speech the show would improve greatly.
What would really improve the show is if Shonda killed off Rowan and that whole ridiculous B613 storyline. I’ve watched Scandal from its inception and loved it for the most part. But if Rowan isn’t toast by the time this season is over, I am done. There are only so many head-wagging rants I can deal with.
Why are there/were there so many divas on this particular show/set? You’d think you’d hear about big bang theory and other shows with similar behavior but nooo it seems like this show has the most drama off screen. I just wonder why?
Shonda maybe?
Because they’re actors?
One thing I’d like to point out was that the folks with the biggest ‘attitude’ issues were all original cast members, who were a part of that initial crazy success and seemingly let it go to their heads. It’s also a leaky set. Plenty of other shows have personnel issues (for example, Rob Lowe didn’t get along with the rest of the Parks & Rec cast) but the hotter the show, the more interest in the behind the scenes workings. Like Desperate Housewives crazy first season.
Agree, but it doesn’t just strike actors. Anyone with success can fall victim. As the Sony leaks demonstrate. We hear it less often, but the biggest egos that flex thei muscles are from those behind the scenes.
Actors just take the brunt of the bad press because they’re household names. The news gets digested more easily without explaining the name of someone who is a show creator or producer.
That’s not an apples to apples comparison. This isn’t just monetary success – Grey’s Anatomy was a SMASH. It was a potent mix of not just professional success but acclaim and instant fame. They were a phenomenon. And shows like that always have behind the scenes shenanigans. Ally McBeal, Desperate Housewives, The OC, Gossip Girl – zietgiest shows. But Grey’s Anatomy made it worse with their timing, because the infamous Isaiah Washington incident was at the height of GA fever.
And as we’ve seen with the Sony hacks, it’s absolutely still news when producers and s howrunners behave badly behind the scenes, lest we wouldn’t know about Amy Pascal or Scott Rudin’s shenanigans. Also, don’t forget what a massive to-do Shonda’s Hollywood Reporter kerfuffle was.
Is there really that much drama offscreen. Other than the Heigl-Washington-McKnight drama early in the shows run; I haven’t of issues until recently. If that is truly the case, that’s not bad for an 11 year old show.
I think she kills the characters that she no longer has use for. And it makes it impossible for leaving actors to try and come back later. Both Sandra Oh and Ellen Pompeo seem to like Shonda, so I find it hard to believe she is that bad.
But I’m sure she has her moments. I lost a lot of respect for her after her obnoxious Lady Gaga Oscar performance comments.
I could go on a rant for days about how stupid GA has gotten, and how lazy the writing is. SO BAD. Just SO BAD. Some stupid highlights:
– Meredith – got caught in bombing, nearly drowned, horrible mother dies of Alzheimer’s, found out she had a stepmom and 2 half-sisters, stepmom dies, half-sister dies, has a miscarriage, husband gets shot, finds out about another half-sister from her mom (PS a woman has career-oriented as Ellis would have just had an abortion the second time she got pregnant, let’s be real here), husband dies in car wreck
– George dies in a stupid bus accident
– Derek is shot, and then killed in a car crash, and his dad was murdered.
– Izzy kills fiance trying to save him, gets cancer everywhere, marries and divorces Alex, somehow survives cancer that should have clearly killed her
– Lexie, who somehow is a genius who went to Harvard and was an intern at AGE 24 (!!! – they said it on the show), was in love with George, then Mark, then Alex, then Mark and then died in a plane crash
– Callie, loved George and then Erica and then Arizona and then got pregnant by Mark. Car accident causes premature birth of Sophia, and then plane crash that kills Mark and removes Arizona’s leg, and then she and Arizona break up and get back together a bunch and who cares anymore.
– The hospital has been flooded, bombed and shot up
– Mark gets Callie pregnant, finds out about a lovechild who is also pregnant, and has the most unrealistic death ever
– Addison, Derek and Mark’s ages all change frequently, and Meredith is supposed to be a decade younger than Derek. When Mark’s daughter shows up, she’s 20 or so and Mark says he was 18 when he was with her mother, making him 38. This would also make Meredith about 28, which clearly she can’t be at this point in the show. However, at least 2 seasons before, Addison says she is 40 (when she left for PP) and she was supposed to be the same age as Mark and Derek.
SLOPPY SLOPPY SLOPPY.
End rant. ; -)
You touched on something that drives me crazy about GA: all the doctors are absurdly young. Obviously the show started out about a group of interns so that’s reasonable, but apparently only people in their 20s and 30s are in medicine according to GA as the seasons went on. Amelia Shepard is the HEAD OF NEUROSURGERY and she’s in her early 30s at most. Its ridiculous.
Waoh!
I am shocked and frankly amazed at Shonda. I am also in awe of her a tad. I mean she doesn’t care what We the viewers think?
Is this good or bad? I dunno yet.
I used to think it was self-confidence; now I’m starting to think it’s plain arrogance. The next couple of weeks may tell her whether or not she needs to start listening to her audience, if GA’s ratings take a huge hit.
I just wanted to throw out a note about Shonda’s creative genius on Greys. MASH was recently added to Netflix and I’ve been watching it. I can not even tell you how many story lines were straight up ripped off from MASH. I find it interesting to notice.
I think that this format of show is just a formula that has worn itself out. Kind of like her monologues. I loved scandal at first, but then realised that I probably just enjoyed watching Tony Goldwyn’s abs more than I enjoyed the writing. When you start to really break it down, these punctuation-light monologues start to get exhausting. All the hackneyed “standing in the light” type references that we are forced to endure episode after episode…to be sure that WE GET IT….I just get tired. If you were to close your eyes and have all the actors speak into one of those electronic thingys….you wouldn’t be able to tell her characters from each other on any of the shows, because they’re all her.,
SHONDA RHIMES CANNOT WRITE.
Yet she has three successful shows.
Never seen any of her shows. She sounds like she thrives on power. Few months back I had to google who this woman was.