I don’t really believe that people come to this site or me in particular for in-depth political analysis, so I’m not going to go on and on about last night’s GOP debate, held at the Reagan Library in California. Many of the candidates said words, and for what it’s worth, the debate felt slightly more substantive than the first GOP debate, which was an utter trainwreck. During the second debate, there were lengthy stretches of time where Donald Trump really wasn’t saying anything, then suddenly he would charge into the conversation and make a mess. What I found funny is that it seemed like the air conditioning wasn’t working or something? Because almost every candidate looked like they were about to dissolve into a puddle of sweat, makeup, deflated hairpieces and rage. Here are some random moments that I thought were worth noting:
Trump vs. That Face. Ever since Trump referred to Carly Fiorina as “that face” in a Rolling Stone interview, they’ve been hyping this head-to-head whatever between Trump and Fiorina, with Trump trying to say that he wasn’t talking about her looks, he was talking about her “persona.” A lot of GOP tweeters thought Fiorina came across really well, and she basically just said “we know what he was saying, whatever.” Trump then said this: “I think she’s got a beautiful face. I think she’s a beautiful woman.” CNN kept the camera on Fiorina and she looked like she was about to hork.
Jeb Bush got high once. There was a discussion about drugs and legalizing marijuana and Rand Paul threw shade on candidates who smoked pot back in the day and Jeb piped up with: “So, 40 years ago, I smoked marijuana, and I admit it. I’m sure that other people might have done it and may not want to say it in front of 25 million people. My mom’s not happy that I just did.”
Ted Cruz is the worst. He’s simply the worst. Threats of violence are never okay, but OMG, THAT FACE inspires some violent fantasies.
Mike Huckabee is also the worst. Seriously, he’s sucks so hard.
Ben Carson is ?????. I don’t get Carson’s popularity, nor do I understand his whole vibe. He seemed like he was stoned and sleepy up there.
Everybody hates vaginas. And they would work to ban all the vaginas as president.
Everybody got to choose their Secret Service code names:
And finally, Tom Brady sort of endorsed Donald Trump yesterday, because that’s where we are as a nation. Brady was asked if he thinks Trump has “got what it takes” to be president, to which Brady replied: “I hope so…that would be great, he’d put a putting green on the White House lawn, I’m sure of that.” Idiot.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
Because just tell us we’re beautiful and that makes everything better.
Right??? He is awful.
But he can’t even get that right. I mean, once more with feeling…. except it’s totally inappropriate at a political debate.
God, that was SO condescending. It fell completely flat, too. The audience was silent except I swear I heard a boo.
Ugh exactly this. What a douche canoe.
He just reaffirmed his original mistake: her face has nothing to do with her ability to be President. He’s so clueless.
He is such a misogynist. When he was spouting off a few weeks ago about how he “cherishes women” it made my skin crawl.
@lilacflower Apparently that works. I have looked up every online poll this morning which asked who won the debate. Every single one shows Trump won the debate by wide margins.
It’s amazing how many women are supporting this guy during the primaries. This schtick that’s working so well primary wise is going to crash and burn really quickly though if he wins the primary and faces off for the general election. He appeals to a certain demographic,and while that demographic is much more sizable than I had ever imagined, it’s not sizable enough to get this dumb ass into the White House. He’s alienated all the actual groups(save it angry GOPers and reality show enthusiasts who otherwise ignore politics) you need to win the election, and the GOP knows it and that’s why they tried to railroad him early on.
Amen 1000%
I think he was referring to how scary her face is- not her looks per se- she looks so mean and hard hearted – she scares ME!
Right? I mean, women are suppose to be decorative first! If she can’t get that right…why bother judging her on her actual platform.
/sarcasm
I’m in Canada, and whenever I see that there are people in the United States who are actually entertaining the idea of voting for this idiot, I remember that old YouTube video where the kid leaves the dentist after being put under saying: “Is this real life?” Is it????
Honestly, if that douche-canoe becomes president of the US, I would consider moving to Europe…because even being in Canada is too close.
Or we could get the next prime minister (aka anyone but Harper) to get a wall built south of the border, paid for by the US, of course:-)
It is tragic, isn’t it? I used to live in the US and for a long time wished I had stayed. Now I am glad I didn’t. How did this happen, how have our friends down south allowed the nut cases to get so far ahead? Who would have thought twenty years ago that this clown would actually be a contender for the presidency? That a woman whose only talent is to get cosmetic surgery and have one lousy sex tape can parlay that lack of accomplishments or any talent into a mega fortune and world wide fame for herself and her family? That a kid taking a clock to school would be led away in handcuffs? That a cult treating women as breeding machines would have a tv show, fame, money and a political platform – until their secrets showing them to be the worst type of hypocrites and abusers came to light? That a woman “elected” to a cushy government job where she succeeded her mother, whose own private life was a mess, could get away with defying constitutional grants to couples whom the Supreme Court states have the right to marry – because hey, she is listening to the Lord who is apparently granting her and her cohorts private interviews and absolution and total license anytime of the day?
Anyway… rant over. Will just go away now. I find it all so sad and scary.
As an American, I share your bewilderment as to how it got this far.
I’m American and I’m right there with you. I can’t even think of anything to add since you really covered all the bases. I still hold out hope, though, that we can redeem ourselves. And I truly believe that the majority of us don’t actually like or support these idiots. The minority is just so loud & obnoxious that they’re hard to ignore.
Preach it Vauvert. And Smcollins, I tell myself that they’re the minority too, but deep down, sometimes I’m afraid that they’re not…
Also Canadian and I am with you…it’s scary and they make me wonder what happened to all the intelligent people? I look back over history at all the presidents of the US and then recently? I mean, did it start with Reagan? George W? I don’t know when the downfall to Idiocracy began, but it’s now a landslide and sometimes I have to remind myself that it’s real life and not The Onion that I’m reading! Seriously, I worry that being in Canada is too close if one of these nutjobs ever got elected. I can’t believe that half the population of the US seems to vote for these people. Trump? Seriously? He’s like the poster boy for the Ugly American? Boorish, Arrogant, Ignorant and doesn’t care because he’s rich and loud. Can you imagine HIM meeting with the heads of other countries and trying to discuss anything? I cringe whenever he opens his mouth! When did the FACTS and intelligence because a bad thing to so many Americans? These people are not right in the head, I’m sorry…they are delusional! The stuff they believe…the stuff I hear them saying? Plus, I’m sure most of the people supporting these idiots don’t even know what half the buzzwords they are shouting (ie: Socialist Fascism, etc) even mean! All I could think watching the debate last night was…how can so many of these candidates have faces that just make you want to punch them? And I’m not even a violent person!? lol
Totally sad and scary.
+1million billion
You are witnessing the mindless, thrashing death throes of the collective angry, white, threatened male Amerisaurus.
The Orange Raptor seen here is their latest poster boy.
@belledejour, lol. Nicely put.
yeah, it’s been pretty appalling and disappointing to realize there are a lot of usually non-politically aware people in this country who are now turned onto political activism now that they have a primary that resembles a WWE.
Never in a million years did I think that mind numbing Reality TV could lead to a Reality TV president.
He’s so disgusting. I cheered Fiorina’s comment.
Oh and another reason to be anti-Trump, if you’re still not convinced (and didn’t make it to the end): He’s aligned with anti-vaxxers.
I hate his guts, and he does believe that too many vaccines at once cause autism, for which there is no medical evidence whatsoever, but he’s not anti-vaccine. He just thinks smaller doses should be given out over a longer period of time, which is supported by a lot of doctors. Just to be fair.
@GNAT,
You might note I said he is “aligned” with anti-vaxxers, in utter anticipation of someone coming along to advance the very cherry picking of his position that indeed you just did.
He believes vaccines cause autism. Whether he thinks they should be administered progressively or not at all does not matter. He gives credence to the “vaccines = autism” crowd that is creating a public health crisis in the United States.
VACCINES DO NOT CAUSE AUTISM. They do not cause it whether vaccines are administered progressively or at once. Just because he believes in the former does not negate that his position is very, very dangerous and as I said: He is aligned with anti-vaxxers.
ETA: The American Academy of Pediatrics does not believe a progressive vaccination schedule is necessary, because there is no link between vaccines and autism.
The CDC has covered up a study that shows correlation between the MMR vaccine and higher autism rates in certain ethnicities. Google CDC cover-up MMR Autism and you can watch Congressman Posey calling for a committee to investigate in front of Congress.
Matador,
You are correct that vaccines do not cause autism. I SAID “For which there is no medical evidence whatsoever.” I KNOW that vaccines don’t cause autism, and I think the anti-vaxxers are ignorant and dangerous. I think Donald Trump is ignorant and dangerous. But what you said is misleading and untrue. He is not trying to stop children from getting vaccines, which you implied, just to slow down the process. His reason for wanting to do so is wrong, but many doctors, including Ben Carson, think there might be benefits to progressive vaccination to reduce other side-effects and risks of vaccines. I do not personally feel this way, but the AAOP does not speak for every doctor. By framing your statement the way you did, you gave a false impression. I would say that I’m sure it wasn’t deliberate, but you stated yourself that you chose your words carefully in anticipation of being corrected. Because you knew you were giving a false impression. You could have just said he believes vaccines cause autism, but it sounds much more dangerous to call him an anti-vaxxer. I was just trying to be fair. There is a WORLD of difference between being an anti-vaxxer and believing in progressive vaccinations. And you know it.
Trump seems to change what he says as the wind blows and he gets caught in something that might make him look bad. In one breath he implies vaccines cause autism because he relates some story about someone he knew whose kid got vaccinated, got a fever and became autistic. Then he gets challenged by a medical doctor who says there’s no evidence linking the two and he suddenly says he’s not anti-vaccines, just anti-too many at one time and thinks they need to be spread out. Okay. He does a lot of this: I know someone who… OR All the experts agree with me… (without actually giving names and examples)
@Suzy
I was just referring to what he actually said in the debate. I completely agree that he is full of sh$t, and his “experts” and “people have told me” and “I have proof” is all just hot air. And yes, that example that he gave about a friend who’s baby “got” autism right after being vaccinated was beyond stupid.
1/ Seriously? Trump is anti-vaxxer?!
2/Another clue that Brady is dumb
If Trump gets elected it is DEFINITELY Brady’s fault. 100%
Brady is just trying to be diplomatic towards a man who has publicly supported him through Deflategate and people wanna make it seem like that was an endorsement of Trump for president. lol
So, like Hilary on Kim K, he was diplomatic about someone who many don’t approve of… and just yesterday wasn’t she called out for how easily she lies?
–stirring the pot with some tangled webs…
Um I didn’t say sh*t about Hillary yesterday except that I wouldn’t vote for her. And really, it has nothing to do with Kim Kardashian and everything to do with the fact that I don’t like Hillary as a candidate.
Plus there ALREADY IS A PUTTING GREEN on the South lawn.
(I may know WAY too much White House trivia. Like one of my favorites, Lincoln was embalmed for the first of eleven (11!) times in what is now the Private Family Dining Room on the second floor of the main residence. It was a bedroom at the time. Also, Lincoln gave his last speech standing at the window of the closet hall on the same floor between the East and West Bedrooms while his young son crawled around on the floor at his feet picking up the pages of his speech as he dropped them to move on to the next. . . . I’ll stop now.)
meant as good-natured ribbing about strong opinions–I should have known better than to joke about politics or football! Hope your Pats go all the way, again. Or the Red Sox. or both.
Ugh. Sorry Birdix. I need to learn to avoid anything Brady-related around here. lol
Cheers, my friend 😉
Is Brady really just being “diplomatic” when he’s keeping a ‘Make America Great Again’ hat in his locker? Cause I’m leaning towards d**k move either way.
Birdix – that was me saying Hillary lies so easily. I say it whenever I can to whomever I can. People are starting to avoid eye contact with me now. I wonder why?
omg the “this perfect baby got a vaccine then he got a fever……and then he got autism” statement just shows what an idiot he is, and that he’s too stupid and arrogant to even realize he’s so idiotic he probably should just shut up and not expose himself further.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen trump talk that much at one time, but I found myself cringing every time he talked. I can’t imagine him seriously being president if his go-to is to call everyone either ugly or stupid.
That last pic says it all. Total contempt and grimacing when having to glad hand voters. This hairpiece can’t go away fast enough….
that last pic should be in EVERY Trump Post
also Ben Carson Looks and sounds like he is running for pastor in Chief, also Ted Cruz’s voice and face were made for punching, also if Republicans had the sense god gave ants they’d pick Kasich cause he is the only man there that sounds like he’s got common sense, is not rabid, can compromise and has the compassion gene
Upon seeing that last photo I had one thought:
THAT FACE
Actually Rand Paul said more reasonable things than Kasich last night, regarding the Middle East, War on Drugs, the Constitution. But you’re right Kasich and Paul are the only ones who don’t seem totally insane. Carson maybe too. But then these guys keep talking and then you’re like “Uh…no.” But anyone’s better than Ted Cruz or Mike Huckabee who shouldn’t be in charge of anything. Ugh.
What is a putting green? What does Brady’s comment mean?
Brady has played golf with Trump. He’s saying that Trump would put a putting green in, for golfers.
Always at the top of my list of criteria when considering presidential candidates.
It is of the utmost importance! 😉
Like I said above, there’s already a putting green on the South Lawn. There are also two fountains, a playground, swimming pool, children’s garden, tennis court, basketball court, an indoor bowling rink, movie theather, games room, etc., etc..
But, yes, getting to brag about playing golf with the president – that’s what is important in a canidate.
Trump builds golf courses and Tom, because all he knows about anything is only in relation to sports, knows that about Trump. As someone else mentioned, he has played golf with Trump because of course he has.
My dislike of Tom Brady, which originally began with nothing more than a feeling I got looking at his smirk, has now ratcheted up based on idiotic responses like this one.
He looks smarmy, like a loser from the game ” Mystery Date”
Why why why as a country, are we entertaining this old, crusty douchebag? Why are we giving HIM the time of day? Why is he still #1 on the polls? At first I was sure this clown was going to get shut down SO quickly by all of us, and then he is the one running the f*cking show!!! Jesus take the mother loving WHEEL!
+1 Really I couldn’t describe my despair any better.
Although I agree wit Kaiser that Ted Cruz is the worst of the bunch. I didn’t see the debate but I read that he got zero applause when he introduced himself. With any luck, Trump will eventually implode like he has.
Because he is entertaining us. Nothing is real about this until early next year. Everyone’s still on a summer high… once the cold hard winter sets in so will this guy’s reality. The only question is how will he go out…. with a bang or a whimper?
Just remember we are in the same country that give the Kardashians fame, multiple articles a day if not enough
Yes, great point. We have created this celeb worshipping culture and Trump’s current triumph is one big by-product of that.
I think people know that Citizens United completely f*cked our political system and they think, correctly or not, that Trump’s wealth makes him independent from outside influences. It’s pretty sad, really.
I think you are giving people way too much credit for having cogent thoughts.
We aren’t entertaining him as much as our media is entertaining him. CNN showing a split screen of Trump when he wasn’t even being asked a question. No better than E news, at least they know they’re entertainment news. Also its a smaller voting populace thats wants him president. The angry, get off of my lawn take my America back cranksters.
Sometimes it’s embarrassing being an American….
What Emily Blunt thought yesterday
Dude…last night I watched Gun Fight (anybody seen it?) and I had to stop myself from going back to the Emily Blunt thread and taking back everything I said in defense of the United States.
Its a surprise we haven’t blown ourselves up yet. WE have always been crazy and that probably isn’t changing.
Oh dear – here I thought he couldn’t get more male chauvinistic, condescending, sanctimonious and misogynist.
God save America if he does become the president.
“Everybody hates vaginas. And they would work to ban all the vaginas as president.”
Ha. I recently came across this letter, sent to the UK’s Daily Telegraph in 1913, presumably as a response to similarly misogynistic political debating:
Dear Sir
Everyone seems to agree upon the necessity of putting a stop to Suffragist outrages; but no one seems certain how to do so. There are two, and only two, ways in which this can be done. Both will be effectual:
1. Kill every woman in the United Kingdom
2. Give women the vote
Yours truly
Bertha Brewster
Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose, eh?! Anyway. Big up to Bertha.
PS: And apparently Jeb Bush wants Margaret Thatcher on the $10 bill? Ha. Excellent. So long as we don’t have to have her on our currency.
Oh Sixer. Thank you for helping me start my day with cleansing laughter.
He really said that?
Well, I think so! It was the trivia quiz question on today’s lunchtime BBC politics show! I guessed Barbara Bush in an #epicfail!
Sixer, if you’re there, former US Labor Secretary Robert Reich posted this:
“When asked last night which woman he wanted to see on the new $10 bill, Jeb Bush suggested Margaret Thatcher. “A strong leader is what we need in the White House, and she certainly was a strong leader that restored the United Kingdom into greatness.”
Hmm? Lady Thatcher, who famously quipped that there was no such thing as a “society,” destroyed much of Britain’s social contract and caused its median wage to stagnate for decades. And if by “greatness” Jeb is referring to her move on the Falkland Islands, I worry about another Bush’s concept of national security. That Jeb passed over Rosa Parks, Susan B. Anthony, Frances Perkins, Eleanor Roosevelt, and countless other women who have fought for social justice in America in favor of Britain’s former right-wing prime minister conveys more about Jeb’s values than anything else he’s said to date.”
He’s just become my new favourite person!
This may be enough to make me change my username to Bertha Brewster.
Oh, that’s wonderful! Bertha would no doubt be saddened, though I doubt she would be shocked, to know that things haven’t really changed all that much.
I’ve got a serious case of hero worship of Alice Paul that started when I was a little girl. My office has one wall dedicated to framed photographs of my personal heroes/inspirations and right in the center is a photo of The Silent Sentinels picketing the White House: “Mr. President How Long Must Women Wait For Liberty”. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Sentinels)
We’re actually kicking Paul around as a middle name for one of the babies (twins!) if we have at least one boy. We want our boys to grow up knowing that women are just as strong and capable as men, as well as knowing that men are allowed to be vulnerable and emotional without feeling shame.
Be a part of the solution, not the problem, and so on.
Can someone tell me why Ben Carson thinks he is qualified to run this enormous country? Same question goes for all the rest of them, but Carson mystifies me. Plus – I can’t imagine another black president for a long time.
Dr Carson appears to be high or sleepy, he had no energy. I was quite surprised the way he answered the question about vaccine for children. it’s as if he was not sure of his answer. I’m hoping for the two women to go head to head next years, vagina power, yeah. IMO they are both just as qualified as any of the men running.
I’m by no means a supporter of mr Carson (or republican) but how is his race a deterrent? I don’t see how we couldn’t have a black person as president again and soon. Our current one has done a wonderful job no and had the vast majority of support last election. Sorry don’t get your statement at all. I don’t think it will be mr Carson but it isn’t because of his race.
I agree with Bell Epoch.
My friends and I were talking the other day about who we would vote for (we all like Sanders) and I mentioned that my mom would love for me to vote for Hillary (she can’t vote because she’s not US citizen) simply because she’s a woman and my mom really wants to see a female president in her lifetime to which my friend quipped “because having a black president worked out so well?”
Now my friends and I all voted for Obama–twice–and while we have issues with some of his policy, none of us regret our decision voting for him. But since day one Pres Obama’s race has been a dividing issue. If you’ve seen some of the other threads there are people who actually think that Obama “plays the race card” or that he has intentionally made race relations in this country worse.
(have you stopped laughing yet?)
But seriously, this country proved that we are too f*cking regressive and frankly, too damn racist to handle a black president. And yes, I still maintain that a good portion of the backlash against Obama came from the fact that he was a black dude. That’s not to say that there weren’t legitimate reasons to criticize his presidency, but I absolutely think people would have approached the criticisms differently had he been white.
Shots fired, come at me, whatever.
I hear what you’re saying, Kitten.
I don’t think Belle was trying to say, “no more black presidents!” I think she was simply pointing out the fact that having a black president has shone a light on how truly backward some Americans still are, and that has made a lot of people uncomfortable. They’re going to blame that uncomfortable feeling on Obama, and use it as an excuse to say, “see? We can’t have a black president” in so many words. Kitten said that a lot of the backlash he’s received has been race-related, subtle or not. And I think people are going to use those criticisms of him as an excuse to justify not having another black president for a while. Like Kitten said, the backward folks in our country just couldn’t handle Obama, but they’re going to blame Obama for that, and that’s why we probably won’t see another man of color in office for a while.
In a way, this relates to why I will never vote for Hilary in a million years. It’s not worth having a token woman president just to have a token woman president. She would f*ck it up entirely, and then everyone would use that as an excuse to say, “see?!? This is why the womens can’t be prezuhdent!”
“In a way, this relates to why I will never vote for Hilary in a million years. It’s not worth having a token woman president just to have a token woman president. She would f*ck it up entirely, and then everyone would use that as an excuse to say, ‘see?!? This is why the womens can’t be prezuhdent!’ ”
This so SO much. Gah! So depressing. All of it.
@Belle Epoch:
Wow, just wow! Such a racist statement regarding the color of a person’s skin if they became president of the United States of America!
@ K says:
I Totally agree with your Statement:
“I’m by no means a supporter of Mr. Carson (or republican) but how is his race a deterrent? I don’t see how we couldn’t have a black person as president again and soon. Our current one has done a wonderful job no and had the vast majority of support last election. Sorry don’t get your statement at all. I don’t think it will be Mr. Carson but it isn’t because of his race.”
“I can’t imagine another black president for a long time.”
How is that racist though? Were you living in the US during the past 8 years?
Having a black president served to highlight how far this country has to go in order to eradicate racism. If you don’t think that Pres Obama’s race just riled up the white nationalists, KKK and other racist skinhead groups as well as some of the NeoCons who are prone to racist viewpoints, then I have a bridge to sell you. There are people in this country who will make it their mission to ensure that we don’t have another black president.
But that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t strive to have another black president or a female president for that matter. Hell I’d LOVE to have a black female president, but when you have 10 Republican candidates who all want to control our vaginas, how likely do you think that is to happen?
Forgive my foreboding tone, I’m just not feeling optimistic about the US right now.
@BarbieDoll
I know Belle Epoch, and she isn’t racist. Kitten explained it better than I could, so I’ll just say I agree with her assessment. K has apparently not read a newspaper in a while, because to say that the vast majority support Obama is simply untrue. The vast majority don’t. The fact that Donald Trump and his racist, misogynist act have gained traction should tell you where we are as a country. The people who are excited about this election are the anti-choice, the anti-immigrant, the anti-gay the bring back the good old days right wingers. These are dangerous times.
@Kitten White nationalists,kkk and neo cons didn’t stop Obama from getting reelected. You’re giving those people too much credit. They don’t have that much power.
“The fact that Donald Trump and his racist, misogynist act have gained traction should tell you where we are as a country.”
Yup this exactly.
GNAT says:
“These are dangerous times.”
Truly. As I read that, I envisioned men huddled in a dark corner of an 18th century tavern, speaking in hushed tones about revolution. Dangerous times can be scary, but they can also be a catalyst for great change. Here’s hoping that the winds of change take us in the right direction.
@FingerBinger-I wasn’t trying to say that these small fringe groups will be the reason that I won’t see another black president in my lifetime, I was just pointing out the fact that these groups have mobilized, grown and strengthened since Pres. Obama’s second term. Not a coincidence.
Actually, I think latent racists will be the reason that we won’t see another black president in the White House anytime soon.
You have to understand that while these racist groups don’t have the power to make/break an election, that doesn’t mean that they don’t have wide-reaching influence. And while their brand of racism isn’t a widely accepted one, best believe there are people who very much agree with what these groups represent and those people will be voting.
Unfortunately someone very close to me said the same thing to me today about Carson: “This country wouldn’t elect two black men back to back…” and something to the effect about the first one being a disaster.
My retort…… Disastrous presidencies haven’t stopped us from electing about 50 white men back to back, now have they?
@good yes I’ve read a paper so no need for the rude comment and I can can read. Did you actually read what I say or did you just feel the need to make condescending remakes to me? I said he was supported isn’t the election by the vast majority and go pull up both election results and you’ll see I’m right.
My family members that are pro-Carson seem to like him because he is extremely anti-abortion.
Carson has a great life story, probably one of the best life stories in ‘t years. He seems to be a good man but that doesn’t qualify someone for presidency. He was probably pumped up by party members wanting their token to show the party is diverse. He would probably make a great advisor, especially on heart health issues but he’s not presidential material.
good news all. trump imploded last night.
His numbers are up in the polls, so nope.
Guys i’m sorry to say this but he’s the american Berlusconi. Nothing good will come out of him, no matter what. Sexist, racist, bigot, condescending, misogynist, homophobic and bases people’s skills on looks.
Good luck with that.
Right? That is exactly what I have been thinking!!
NO-ONE CARES WHAT YOU THINK OF OUR LOOKS, YOU OVERGROWN ORANGE ANUS
(h/t QQ)
haha, perfect!
The look on Donald’s face in the car, reminds me of a constipated rabbit.
How dare you insult rabbits like that!?
I see Peter Pettigrew aka Wormtail from Harry Potter after he changed back to a human form after years of being a rat and kept making those rat-like gestures and faces.
Now that you mention it , he does look like Wormtail!
My apology to Bugs Bunny and the Easter Bunny. Your bouquet of organic carrots will be sent this morning
I enjoy the energy and attention Trump has put into the race. He should not win but people who need to vote and pay attention to American issues are more interested than ever.
His being taken seriously by the idiots who support him, plus Hillary as the other candidate, makes me just want to sit this one out. He’s taking attention away from the issues and putting it on his personality. It’s a joke. He has turned this process into a clown show and I see nothing to enjoy about it, but to each his own, I guess.
He’s a buffoon. My kids were eager to tune in because from talking to others at school they knew he makes it such a clown show. Had to turn it off when they got into the whole planned parenthood section on selling baby parts. Even in a state that elected Arnold governor, I still can’t believe that trump is considered a viable candidate.
No one is paying attention to the issues, only to the carnival barker who is actually taking attention from the issues. That’s not energy, it’s feeding time at the zoo.
I didn’t think the GOP debates could be any worse than the last election. Surprise, surprise.
Looking at the group of Republican candidates, I can’t believe any of these people are in the same party as Abraham Lincoln. They’re all scary IMO. God help America if any of these idiots get elected.
The Republican Party of today barely has anything in common with the Republicans of over fifty years ago (I’m thinking Dwight Eisenhower or Nelson Rockefeller) which was a more moderate party before it went really right-wing, first with Barry Goldwater and then in the 1980s with Reagan. So I wouldn’t even compare it to 150 years ago with Lincoln. To be quite honest, it should have a completely different name. Not even the same party. Both Lincoln and Eisenhower would be kicked out of it.
the republican party isn’t even recognizable to the party of Bob Dole and Jack Kemp, less than two decades back. It’s shocking how alienating it has become in such a short time. There’s no way in hell Bob Dole would have been a candidate in this type of climate.
The religious right is what changed the Republican party. They were at one time pro- rights, less conservative than Dems believe it or not and actually financially responsible. Now its just the hand that carries the conservative morality cross. Although Donald, is an definite abnormality.
I can reassure those who fear that Trump will win – he won’t.
The stars/astrology say it’s ……. BUSH
I know, I don’t want him either but there you are.
PS: Fiorina will be his running mate. God help us all !!
so right.
I didn’t know the stars were predicting it as well, but it’s just damn obvious that the Bush billionaire dynasty will steal this election again, 100%.
Like I keep saying I just hope Trump puts some of his $$ behind exposing whatever criminal tricks they get up to this time.
Get ready to be hated by the world again. ugh. sad.
Please, on the stars in heaven, no.
I’ll admit that I did laugh at some of Donald’s facial expressions and comments — he reads like a Real Housewife at a reunion.
More Bernie Sanders please.
Bernie Sanders won the debate last night and he wasn’t even there. His Twitter was on fire!
Thumbs up
real airplane?
So it sounds like he sounded bad against the backdrop of this motley crew. Before he goes out I seriously hope someone gives him the verbal beat down of his life, one on one. I don’t know if any of this lot have the tools to do it. I would have loved to see him have to debate Obama, that would be comedy gold.
I would pay to watch him attempt to debate Bernie Sanders.
They all make me want to vomit.
Thank you for so eloquently putting my feelings into words. Lol
WTF happened to Donald Trump in his life that made him like this? He is horrible.
Pampered entitlement since birth.
Confirmed! Tom Brady is an idiot. Reason enough NOT to vote for Trump is his endorsement.
Agree. His endorsement confirms what I thought of him all along. Nothing like one white male zillionaire supporting another…. Ugh!
I wonder why this tidbit was hidden at the bottom. I can’t wait to see the six rabid Brady supporters come on here and try to spin this. He comes off as dumb as a box of hair. Seriously you people are allowed to say you are disappointed in him! And other people are allowed to say he sounds like a total buffoon and his words about Trump make him sound even worse!
ETA- Oh I see one of them has already come in to spin this as Brady being “diplomatic” to a man that supported him. I bet if this was Eli or Peyton Manning, you wouldn’t have such nice things to say.
THAT’S why you’re not voting for Trump?
@Lex-seriously calm down. lol
Maybe Brady is voting for Trump but I don’t really GAF either way. As long as he keeps winning games that’s all I really care about.
Cheers.
Well, for me it goes the other way. Brady’s seeming endorsement (though it was probably not meant to be one) of Trump gives me just another reason to dislike Brady in general.
Sorry, @Kitten, I don’t GAF about his team or the NFL.
You don’t have to be sorry. It’s just football. People are allowed to hate teams/players whatever.
I do dork out on political issues. I don’t like either party and I try to stay non-partisan. I did think Fiorina KILLED it with her response to him.
Not sure which I found more offensive, Trump’s “beautiful face” reply or the fact that only one of ten men on that stage last night didn’t look totally flummoxed when asked which woman they would put on a $10 bill. Marco Rubio immediately said Rosa Parks. A few of them named their wives. Bush said Margaret Thatcher (?!). Carly, to her credit, replied that she didn’t have a response because essentially its time to stop making these token gestures to women, who make up half of the U.S. population.
Fiorina completely killed it! She responded in such a way that it made Trump look infantile, brought the prez discussion back to earth and was sooo pro-woman. I would never vote for her because I just don’t like her platform but for a few moments she seemed more presidential than any of the other candidates
Totally agree. She is too conservative for me, but I liked what she said about the empty gesture. I thought it made all of the men look stupid.,actually, I thought it was stupid question, but whatever.
Donald Trump is an *ss!!!
I’m petrified that he actually has support and is gathering momentum. He and his supporters defy logic and reason!!
I noticed last night that Trump is looking more like a crotchety old grandpa by the minute.
This is all terrifying. The fact that there are people out there, just like you and me, who WANT one or some of these morons to run our country is seriously making me consider moving to a remote island somewhere. It’s painful to realize that people agree with these fucknuts.
I am from Ireland, but I love following American politics, particurly the presedential races, and with Donald Trump it is hightly amusing to watch. CNN are obsessed with him, and have discussions on him everynight especially Anderson Cooper 360 who I love wathcing. I dont like Donald Trump at all, he is so full of himself, and seems very childish, but he is very funny to watch. I cant beleive the amount of support he is gettting , but he has pulled people in, for how long I dont know, but I hope he doesnt become President, he doesnt have the right manner or personality in my opinion, he seeems to hot headed. But I have to say I am enjoying listening and wathcing him. I think if I was an American citizen I would vote for Hillary Clinton, kind of because I would love to see a Female president.
I’ve been waiting for a Madam President all my life. However, I’ll pass on Wall Street’s Madam and wait for Elizabeth Warren to run after she serves as Bernie Sanders’ VP
@kitten-Obama is not a black president, he’s half black. Trump reminds me of another rich guy (Ross Perot). And let’s leave the ten dollar bill alone.
He’s a black president judging by the racism directed at him by much of the US Congress, many voters and too much of the media. It’s the old “one drop of blood” measurement used among other justifications for slavery/discrimination.
Oh hi Halle Berry! No, he’s half-black, factually speaking. I know that’s a fact many don’t want to acknowledge but it’s true. His WHITE mother raised him and yet that poor woman is barely recognized for her efforts and her accomplishment in producing a presidential son. If you really want to get excited about this country’s first black president, look no further than Ben Carson (but something tells me you’re just not jazzed about him and that 100% blood of his, am I right?).
@LadyJ
Didn’t his mother abandon him to the care of his grandmother when he was a small boy? That may be why she is barely recognized for raising him. She didn’t.
Everyone knows he is mixed race, but I agree with Who that his experience has probably been more connected to the black community than the white because he looks black, not white. I think if people see you as black, you probably experience the same or similar prejudices. They don’t stop to ask if you have any white relatives.
Lady J, you (purposely?) twisted my comment. I did not support the “1 drop of blood” hypothesis one bit. I was instead referring to the way many bigoted Americans view him due to that kind of twisted, racist reasoning which found its ways into the legal system and entrenched discrimination even further. Please read my comment one more time more slooooowly.
I know all about his mother, grandparents, upbringing etc. I read his autobiography like millions other Americans.
The last thing I expected on this board was to be accused of racism.
GNAT, his mother did not abandon him. She raised him as a single mother when his father abandoned them both, and brought him to Malaysia with her when she remarried. He had some interesting years there. I forget exactly how the Hawaii years unfolded, but it may be that she was finishing her doctorate and his grandparents scraped together enough to send him to a good high school. She was a constant in his life and he credits her in his book with nurturance and high expectations. Poignantly, he said after he finished that he didn’t at the time of writing give her enough credit because he was working out his feelings about his absent father and his heritage from Kenya. It’s a really interesting book.
He made a conscious choice to work with the black community on the South Side of Chicago.
i feel like we live in such a strange out of control world. Can you imagine political races like this 20, even 10 years ago.
Absolutely, and 100 and 200 years ago as well. American politics were always a free-for-all with a very low entry bar. Most presidents have been mediocre. TV and social media are just amplifying the worst of it.
THIS, in the 20s and 30s involved rampant bombings, anarchists & communists. American politics have always been a hot mess.
My husband and I had a spirited conversation about the debate this am. (We watched most of it but admittedly both were also distracted with laptops.)
What we could both agree on as it relates to Trump: Trump has (had?) a legitimate role to play in entering the race…..which is shake up the republican party. The behind the scenes republican power brokers need serious shaking up. Republicans don’t stand a chance in another presidential election for a long time if they don’t take a serious turn toward the middle on some social issues and away from the stranglehold of the religious right nuts on their platform. Trump served that purpose. The people who Trump (early on) appealed to are those disenfranchised voters who very much want a stronger foreign policy, a better economy, real immigration reform and couldn’t care any less about defunding Planned Parenthood, and can support gay marriage, and wish the Kim Davis debacle just didn’t have a place on the stage of national discourse. (I fit that profile, but Trump never appealed to me, although I fully admit I loved how he shook stuff up and said some un-PC things that allowed others room for more open dialogue on sensitive issues.)
Where we disagree: I think Trump has moved from theatre (which all politics has been for years and years and years, even before Trump) to full blown reality TV entertainment and no longer has value. He’s a buffoon, absolutely. He is not a viable candidate, last pm he looked bad, and he’s going to start losing the appeal that he had to some. I think he needs to get off the stage soon, the republicans need to get it down to 4-5 and then get serious about distinguishing among them and get to their final candidate…….(my picks include Fiorina, Kasich, Rubio…and unfortunately its a given that Jeb Bush will make the finalist list too…and by the numbers also Carson, although I really don’t get his appeal).
Hubby thinks its too soon for Trump to get out, and if he gets out now, everything will go back to the way it was in the behind the scenes power brokers offices….and that Bush would be the shoo in candidate. (Hubby hates Bush BTW, and I’m no fan either.)
Trump is now a distraction to the work at hand, but yeah–it would be to easy a fall back on Bush and that’s the wrong answer too.
It was hard not be impressed with Fiorino last pm. I’d like to see her get more traction, although our spirited debate included hubby agreeing her showing last pm was laudable, yet denying she’d ever have a serious shot at the nomination as an outsider and wanting to write her off now as a distraction to the process.
I have to admit I wanted to hear more from Kasich and Rubio ….the latter needs more gray hair and would benefit from a few more years in Senate in senior leadership roles…….
I think the new few weeks are shaping up to be quite interesting……if you like watching train wrecks of course. But politics can be a blood bath, so lets see where this goes.
Thanks for the recap. My friend wouldn’t go out with us last night because he had to stay home to watch the Republican debate.
When I texted him this morning to ask how it went, he texted back “fascinating”. Then I texted him “I heard Trump bombed. Can you confirm or deny?” and he texted back “No.”
Needless to say your analysis was much more informative. lol
Watched the entire debate and thought Trump proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that, beyond being loud, aggressive, and making inappropriate remarks, the Emperor has No Clothes.
He’s the world’s best about talking in circles to avoid answering questions and saying absolutely nothing. He’s his own Cheerleading Squad and nothing more. He doesn’t have a clue what’s going on in the world, who the leaders and various groups are, what the issues are, and all that is involved. Beyond wanting to build his “Trump Wall” to keep out illegal immigrants, he’s got nothing.
So tired of the blowhart. Blah blah blah.
But he’s so great! And he’s gonna make America great! It’ll be so great, we’ll have greatness coming out of our ears.
Or wherever.
Donald aside what scared me s**less is their beating of war drums. Bragging about wanting to put boots on the ground. As a person with many members of my family in the military with multiple stints in the middle east, it’s disgusting. Blaming Obama for everything in the middle east, talking about Bush kept us safe (the president that had 9/11 happen because he ignored the warnings). They were all war mongers with the exception of Rand & Carson. Rand got one person applauding when he said the middle east needs to take care of its own wars without our intervention. One applause. Wish there was a law that if you are a law maker that supports boots on the ground, your children should automatically be among them. Think that would make them less war hungry,
So, Trump aside, you’re the first person who has called out Ben Carson for being like the stoned surfer of the group. I have thought the same thing and giggled – like he seems like a stoned airhead. Certainly prefer a stoner to the dumb bully that Trump is, but, really?
Listening to Ben Carson is like inhaling audio Valium.
Liked Ben Carson after the first debate. He was dull as dishwater in this one.
He’s a freakin’ neurosurgeon. So no, he is not an airhead. He walks softly and carries a big stick. I like him a lot. I like Carly as well. But politics make me itchy, so I don’t spend too much time on it. I prefer to wait until the candidates are weeded out a bit and we are closer to the primaries.
Don’t think anyone is calling Ben Carson an airhead. He’s obviously incredibly intelligent, and I like him a lot, but his delivery lacks charisma. At least it did last night.
I haven’t read the comments yet, but ohhhhhhh, that Trump picture in the car is perfection. This is why I love this place…..
Why would Tom Brady weigh in on Trump. What a fool. He must be still riding high on his suspension being lifted….dummy.
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Ok so, dear US citizens:
I know Donald Trump seems different because he has no filters and he vomits words. People who are willing to vote for him (??!!) may think he at least will seek what he thinks its better for the USA, but I can assure you he won’t. This same story happened in my country years ago, and it was the very beginning of our big downfall.
In the year 2000, a businessman and former Coca Cola ceo in Mexico, won the elections in Mexico. He became popular because during his campaign he was also vomiting all kind of stupidities that people considered funny. Many people saw in him “someone like us, a ranch guy. A very Mexican macho, etc.” In reality he was rude, ignorant and the worst person ever elected.
During his presidency, he embarassed us everywhere he went, he also made all kind of shady businesses with corporations, his family stole a lot of money and he played a big part in the fraud of the 2006 election (his spurious successor would later take us into the war against drugs and the sad rest is known to the world).
Please don’t make the same mistake, don’t let this racist ignorant reach the white house. You deserve way better than him.
It’s called the “southern strategy” that began with Goldwater and Nixon. It was to meant to take advantage of the fear white, southern voters felt after major legislative advancements in civil rights. The Repubs cultivated every white, wing, nut bag organization. The theory is to keep the poorly educated, non-wealthy white stupid, afraid and voting. It’s devolved into this embarrassing circus. It breaks my heart that strategy is dividing this country. Not that I’m thrilled with the other party either. We need radical reform to the entire election process.
Somewhere Patrick Swayze is not saying ditto to that Trump statement.