Effie Brown on Matt Damon: ‘Word on the street is I’m not his favorite person’

On the first episode of HBO’s Project Greenlight we saw producer Effie Brown, the only person of color on the judge’s panel, try to advocate for diversity in the director’s selection. Matt Damon cut Brown off, saying essentially that as long as there was diversity in casting there didn’t need to be diverse filmmakers. It was a problematic argument, and Brown recognized this and said “whew, ok” and then seemed to let it go. Damon later issued a half apology and claimed his comment was taken out of context.

Brown was hired to make sure the director who was chosen, the very exacting Jason Mann, stayed within the $3 million budget he was given. She has extensive experience as a producer (Dear White People, Real Women Have Curves) and assumed this job would be similar to her past projects. In a new interview with Thompson on Hollywood, Brown explained that the job was much different than she expected, that she was only paid the minimum allowed by the Screen Actors Guild, and that she had ongoing issues with not only Damon, but with Peter Farrelly, who co-wrote the screenplay with his brother. In contrast she said that Ben Affleck had her back. It sounds like she was hired for a specific job, which she did by trying to reign in production, and that the other producers, specifically Damon and Farrelly, didn’t want to listen to her. In fact Peter Farrelly (and by extension his brother, Bobby) quit the show when Brown disagreed with him on an issue that would have made the movie go $300,000 over budget.

She was paid poorly yet featured heavily in the show
“It became apparent that the entire series was about me and Jason [Mann],” she told me in a phone interview. “If I would have known that I would never have done this for free!”

Brown was paid the SAG day rate for the first day of shooting the series along with her producer’s fee plus two points on the back end for the movie: “It was a sh*tty deal. I only got paid to do the film.”

Brown explained before she was hired that she runs a tight ship
In her direct way she told them: “These are the movies I’ve made. I’ve never gone over budget or schedule. I have always delivered a quality movie. My crews look like America, everyone is qualified.”

[Adaptive Studios’ Marc] Joubert asked her: “You know how to say ‘no,’ right?”

She replied: “I’m not afraid of saying ‘no’ and holding a tough line. You haven’t researched me at all! If there’s anything that I could work on, it’s being a little kinder and gentler. I’ve been stuck in impossible situations. I’m an army brat. So I lead, you follow the chain of command, or get out of the way.”

On the exchange shown in episode one where Matt Damon shut her down
“It did feel like an intimidating room to walk into and be part of,” said Brown. “They had already met and hung out and picked the first 13 contenders. I was the last person coming in. They know each other. That was not the full conversation, to be real. That was a more polite version of that exchange.”

On why she argued with Damon
“I had no choice really. I’ve been black and a woman all my life. I have worked in this business for 20 years. I’m 43. It was one of those things. Literally in that moment, was I going to risk public humiliation, bringing up this opinion, or deal with shame and excuses: ‘You let that go by?’ That’s a big responsibility. I was more afraid of my mother: ‘That’s how we raised you and sacrificed, that’s it? When the time was for you to stand and be counted?’ That’s all that went thorough my head: damned if I was going to do that. At the same time, Matt was the biggest movie star in the world, he could win the Oscar with ‘The Martian,’ he’s incredibly thoughtful, so smart, so sensitive. Before that all happened, I am with Jason Bourne and Batman, I loved it. It was disheartening, to be ‘Oh, like, ok.'”

On her relationship with Damon now
“Word on the street is I’m not his favorite person.” (Brown promises more reveals in later episodes.)

How Brown comes across on Greenlight
Throughout the first five episodes you see a clear demonstration of how Hollywood men function with each other, what their internalized rules and assumptions are, how they instinctively work around a woman who is perceived to be in their way. Brown, a veteran of 17 independent productions, is fair and professional, even if she tends to be straightforward and direct.

Peter Farrelly couldn’t handle being told “no” so he and his brother quit
And she is fearless. When she tells Peter Farrelly—another Hollywood talent accustomed to sycophants—on the phone that Mann has already been shown the ropes of 35mm vs. digital and doesn’t need a tour of the FotoKem lab, Farrelly abruptly calls Joubert and quits the show. He no longer wants to deal with Brown. Damon, who helped to bring the duo onto “Project Greenlight,” loyally sides with them against her. And Affleck, to his credit, says she should just continue to do her job, as her producing partner Joubert constantly worries about how Brown is registering with the various powers that be. She’s focused on making the best film possible on budget. Of course, Mann goes around her again and convinces Affleck and HBO to give him the extra $300,000 to shoot on film.

Brown had no idea how her scenes were being edited so she lobbied for approval
Even though it holds final cut, HBO still had to deal with powerful Damon and Affleck. “Pearl Street could have kiboshed it,” said Brown. “They all saw all these cuts and approved them. Ben Affleck was the cat who had my back. Ben is down. All right, good! That was surprising to me, I thought it would be Matt, who has this liberal reputation. Honestly, I’m grown enough to say, ‘I’m not for everybody, not everybody likes me, and he may be one of those who just can’t stand you.'”

[From Indiewire, Thompson on Hollywood]

There’s so much more in the article from Brown. She comes across as straightforward and matter-of-fact. (Honestly I have not watched Project Greenlight beyond the first episode so if you’re following it please feel free to comment.) I’ve quit jobs over similar issues, particularly with men, where my hands were tied and I was being prevented from simply doing the tasks I was hired to do. This reminds me so much of Jennifer Lawrence’s essay yesterday, in which she said that she was done being “nice.” Here is a woman hired to keep a film under budget who faced backlash and even being portrayed negatively on a reality show just for doing her job. The more I cover these stories, the more I realize how unfairly women are characterized for being candid and efficient when those same management skills are lauded in men.

Also, I’m impressed that Ben Affleck is the one who took Brown’s side and tried to smooth things over for her with his douchebro co-producers. Maybe I’ll watch the rest of this season as I want to see how that all played out.



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  1. QQ says:

    CONTINUE DOING YOU AND SPEAKING OUT EFFIE… Word on The Streets is You a Bad bitch!

    • ab says:

      she definitely sounds like a boss bitch and they for some reason were expecting her to roll over and let them do whatever they wanted? I love that farrelly actually quit the show because she told him no. lol.

      • Jayna says:

        She’s doing her job as producer and is right most of the time. But she also admitted she handled Farrelly wrong in her interview. She did. It’s the one place I criticize her behavior professionally.

        It’s good she can reflect back and grow from this where she needs to and also stand up and call out the white male establishment and sexism where she needs to and shed a light. Can the same be said for Matt and other men on there? Can they learn from this and not be defensive? You would hope so, but I wonder. I doubt it.

        “After watching the show, what would you change?

        “I could have handled [Farrelly] differently. I could have done it with a softer approach. I was told, under no circumstances were we getting more than $3 million. You just cut my legs off from under me and you know it. What became apparent was not, ‘everybody’s out to get me,’ but I am so used to fighting to be heard, and to do my job, to be treated fairly, sometimes I come off harshly, when it’s like, ‘Yo, no one is trying to fight you right now!’ That’s what I saw. I could probably get the same effect and have reached the same outcome, if I’d come at them a little differently, and be just as effective. I learned a lot from this experience.”

      • Missy says:

        @Jayna She did not admit she handled him wrong. She said she could have handled him/his ego with a softer approach.

        It’s kind of her to even say that much. This all goes back to the point Kaiser is making: women in the workplace try so hard to be nice. You’ll be hard-pressed to find a man backtrack and halfway apologize for doing his GD job. If his job is to stay in budget, and someone wants to go over budget, he probably isn’t going to care how “softly” he approaches the situation.

      • ab says:

        true. I appreciate that she’s evaluating her approach and reflecting on what drives her boss bitchness (ha) in the first place, but I wonder though if a “softer approach” would have mattered? this isn’t something that men typically have to or care to consider in the same situation, and when called on it they do like you say, get defensive. that said, I haven’t actually seen the show because I don’t have HBO so I’m going on interviews. I’m missing all the tone/context/delivery.

      • Bridget says:

        Part of being a producer means managing people, and that also means dealing with egos. In this specific instance, this is something that we would criticize a man for handling the same way – there is an expectation that a director or producer have the ability to handle their talent as needed without it resorting to either part quitting. BUT it’s not like they didn’t know what they were getting in her, and if the Farrelly’s needed to be handled like special snowflakes there was clearly some sort of breakdown in communication.

        As for the rest, she’s spoken very well and has made her case. She’s talented and capable. F the rest of them if they have a problem with her being someone that gets things done.

      • carol says:

        There is nothing wrong being straightforward or tough but sometimes whether you are a man or a woman you may have to approach aa situation in a more nuanced way. I’ve seen both men and women try to bulldoze their way at work and it rarely works effectively. It just creates discord amongst coworkers and underlings.

      • Zwella Ingrid says:

        A couple of things from me. 1st they were wrong to undercut her authority and authorize more money, after she had denied them. 2nd she would do well to be cautious about Affleck having her back. He might temporarily, but ultimately he is not going to support her against his buddies. 3rd, I respect her, but I don’t care for her complaining now about what she was paid. That is on her. She should have made the best deal possible for herself before getting involved.

      • Emma - The JP Lover says:

        I’m sorry, but I still have an issue with her wanting an ethnic director to deal with ethnic material simply because they are ‘ethnic’ and I’m truly surprised that very few here seem to have a problem with that. I believe a ‘good’ director can handle sensitive ethnic/racial issues regardless of their race/ethnicity (again, I don’t think anyone could have directed “The Color Purple” better than Steven Spielberg). In my opinion, talent-skill-ability should always trump quotas. Damon more or less said what Viola Davis said in her Emmy acceptance speech, that there is a need for more ‘roles’ for people of color (in front of the camera), because there truly are a multitude of them (people of color) and it’s important to see them in ‘front’ of the camera.

      • Kerry says:

        “She could have handled his ego with a softer approach”… But that’s the point – why should she have to? Why is it her problem his fragile yet fully grown male ego can’t handle the word “no”?

        I understand: they are the heavy hitters and in order to get things done, there is an element of placating(?) that needs to be done but COME ON.

    • aims says:

      And there’s nothing wrong with that!! Bitches get things done!

    • mimif says:

      +1 bad bitch and I loved the bit about her mother’s teachings egging her on.

    • Josefa says:

      No shit. Loved her attitude about it all here. You do you, Effie.

    • Kiki says:

      An we love her. Do your THANG girl

    • Cindy says:

      This QQ

      Matt Damon’s smug little face is making me GRRRRR this morning.

    • Alex says:

      She’s awesome. I met her in NYC two weeks ago by chance and talking to her was a breath of fresh air. She pulls no punches, makes no apologies yet still comes across as aware and really nice.

      Do you girl. Do you

      • Kitten says:

        That’s a really rare combo and it seems to have served her well up until Damon’s debacle.

        This was a really interesting interview and I have a lot of respect for her.

    • Rene says:

      She looks to be a professional woman. Clear and concise with what she wants. When kills me is they hired her for the job and did not let her do it. She has cred with her Vitae in film and her reputation for doing her job well. This angers me on so many levels, that she took less pay and in the end, the man children pouted and got their way.

      On my end you keep going for it Effie Brown, women and young girls can look at you with pride. Don’t take any crap!

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:


      The motto: Let me do my damn job and get out of my way.

      Effie can hang and drinks are on me!

    • DrM says:

      Go ON Effie! Give them hell! Shame on Damon…bloody hell…

  2. Merritt says:

    That is the best press Ben has had in a long time.

    • Liane says:

      Totally. I found myself thinking “Really? Affleck had her back? huh. Maybe he’s okay.”

    • ctkat1 says:

      I’ve watched all of the episodes, and Ben Affleck comes off quite well during the whole issue- he did support her, he did tell the director that she is doing her job and he needs to work with her, and he did an interview with the camera where he says that he knows why the Farrellys quit, but he doesn’t see any need to call Effie and “admonish” her or reign her in.
      Surprisingly, among all the men on this shoot, Affleck seems to have the best working relationship with Effie, who is a very no-nonsense straightfoward producer.

  3. Talie says:

    Matt Damon really does seem like the worst the more he opens his mouth and the more people are willing to discuss his behind-the-scenes behavior. Good for Affleck for sticking up for someone who has to do their job. Granted, he has directed indies, so he probably knows what the ropes are a bit better.

    • Saywhatwhen says:

      The man, Damon, has sounded like a Douche all Summer long and now it’s the Fall. Women are “bitches” for being assertive, frank, capable and good at their jobs. This will begin to change when other women, especially, stop buying into the stereotype that an assertive woman is bad, bitch, angry, shrew.

  4. Pinky says:

    Amazing, insightful interview.

  5. Sam says:

    Man, so many dudes look like crap here. It amazes me how Hollywood is willing to bend over backwards for so many guys who stomp their feet. James Cameron was allowed to go insanely overbudget with Titanic, abuse the lead actress and be a general douche for a really not all that great film. Effie says she is always able to create films on budget and on schedule, but doesn’t get accolades. In any other profit-driven industry, Effie would be the far preferred worker, since she minimizes costs and works on schedule. It’s amazing how it seems like the industry is willing to throw away tons of money on people who don’t produce excellence, solely based upon their sex. I’m glad that Effie is shining some kind of light on it.

    • Linn says:

      Say about James Cameron and Titanic what you want, but it’s one of the Highest-grossing films of all time, so if you want to to make a purely profit-driven decision there isn’t really anything wrong with the movie.

      That said, I’m still glad that Effie is speaking out for women and black people and I wish her all the success in the world. She sounds like a great person and a great boss.

      • Sam says:

        Um…that wasn’t my point.

        Cameron, by almost any reasonable metric, would be considered lousy – except in Hollywood. He routinely goes dramatically overbudget on his films. He harangues the actors to the point where a lot of them refuse to ever work with him again. In any other field, he’d be considered a liability and a headache and nobody would hire such a person. Effie Brown touts her ability as a producer to routinely meet scheduling and budget demands and work within the confines of the project she has. Only in Hollywood could such a person be tossed aside or not well-regarded. In most work environments, the ability to stay on budget and on time are actual skills that advance you, whereas constant overspending and mistreatment of others would get you blackballed. Only in Hollywood (and maybe in the art world) are such things not only tolerated, but celebrated.

        That’s Effie’s whole point. White men are consistently given passes for behaviors that would not be tolerated anywhere else. But people of color aren’t. Do you really think that any black director working today would be allowed to get away with Cameron-like behavior? Certainly not. That’s the point. And people justify bad behavior if the film brings in a ton of money, but to do so misses the point. Such bead behavior, in any other sector, would get you canned long before the final project came to fruition, but in Hollywood, people are expected to put up with it.

      • Bridget says:

        Cameron is also the exception and lucked out. Can we say the same about most other movies that balloon over budget? No way.

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

      You said it all, especially your last two sentences. Keep doing you Effie, Hollywood is eating itself anyway with ignoring valuable audiences and still thinking white men are everything.

  6. Ashley says:

    I had always heard that Ben is a really great guy so I guess he really is. I’m just disappointed with Matt because he seemed to be the best of them.

    • Josefa says:

      I think Ben Affleck is, like the rest of us, a three-dimensional person with different layers to him. I can buy that he’s a shitty, cheating husband and at the same time a very good boss and a perfectly nice person to strangers. My mom is a hard worker who’d sacrifice everything for her kids. She’s also completely unable of handling criticism and she’d leave the table and eat alone just because I told her her soup was too salty.

      I think we usually forget we truly don’t know this people. We act all shocked when a celeb we like does something we disapprove, or when someone we dislike does a good thing. We talk about PR and shit and forget maybe that’s just another layer this guy has, that all these stories may be compatible.

      Nobody is perfect and everyone has good qualities to them. Except Donald Trump. And Adam Sandler. And Chris Brown. Fuck those guys.

      • SusanneToo says:

        Great comment. And I agree wholeheartedly with the last paragraph.

      • Linn says:

        Add the Duggars to the last paragraph.

      • Jellybean says:

        I agree too. The other thing I don’t like is that so much weight is given to romantic relationships. If someone cannot find someone of a similar age and similar background to live with happily for the rest of their lives there must be something wrong with them. Well maybe there is!! but there are so many types of love and forms of relationships; parents, siblings, children, colleagues, employees, mates …. A human being is a package and I hate it when they are written off because of their perceived failings in one area. Damon is apparently the perfect husband, which is nice, but it doesn’t mean he is the perfect human being.

      • Sonny says:

        I’ve actually mostly heard good things from people who’ve interacted with Adam Sandler. His comedy (“comedy”?) has an underlying meanness but he is apparently friendly and easy to work with.

        The vibe I get off Ben Affleck is that he likes to hurt himself, not other people. Like he wants to be a nice person but has such an addictive/self-destructive personality that he can’t help himself from f***ing other people over in the process.

      • Josefa says:


        Completely agree. I always found it strange that people thought “Damonsplaining” was some sort of proof he wasn’t the nice family man he was portrayed as. You can be tone deaf about racial issues and be a fantastic husband and father to your kids.

      • Evyn says:

        I would rather cut off my left one than say someting nice about Chris Brown, BUT I respect how he is fighting to co-parent his kid. He has really stepped up from day one, and I think that’s pretty cool.

        BLECCH!!! BLECCH!!!

      • Kitten says:

        @Josefa and Jellybean-Those are some of the most reasonable comments I’ve ever read on a celeb gossip site. I completely agree with you two.

        Also, remember the tell-all book written by the “poker princess” in which she discussed the time Rick Salomon was harassing Affleck about J Lo’s famous ass, claiming she had cellulite or whatever. Ben stared him down and said “it was nice actually.”

        Sure, it’s a small thing but when a celeb is demonized like crazy, people will intentionally gloss over their moments of humanity, kindness, or sensitivity if it conflicts with the one-dimensional caricature they’ve created.

      • I Choose Me says:

        Thank you! I’ve said something similar in threads past.

        Human beings are complex and are capable of being many things to different people. Definitely agree about keeping in mind that although we read about these people, see their movies, or watch them interviews, we don’t really know them.

        Of course, consistently sh*tty behaviour deserves to be called out. And those persons are the one’s I feel comfortable classifying as asshats.

      • Anna says:

        Did you really have to criticize your mother’s food? Sorry but… I don’t know the specifics but when someone has worked hard on every level to provide–and you even acknowledge that fact–it might not be a case of being “unable to handle criticism” but rather a feeling of damn, I put my all into caring for these children who just end up ungrateful and critical…I might leave the table, too…

      • kairos says:

        ^^^ This all day.

  7. kri says:

    Well. Damn. I actually read this thing twice. My god. She sounds like someone I would love to work for. That’s leadership. That’s professional. That is how you do a job. WTF is wrong in this world. I just made fun of T.I.P. for his stupidity. Now this story. I really am pissed. Give em hell, Effie. Give them hell. Oh, and f@ck you, Matt Damon. I see you now.

    • mimif says:

      IKR? She’s the consummate professional and…gets punished for it? Damon can suck a big fat banana.

    • FLORC says:

      I really like her and she give a great interview.

    • jmacky says:

      @kri word. Effie is the first professional voice we’ve heard in this whole deal. Matt seems like a petulant frattie and she, a business woman. And despite totally having the moral high ground, she is still giving props to Ben and being self-reflexive—Matt needs to suck it up and LEARN from her.

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

      “Give em hell, Effie!”

      Put it on a T-shirt cause I’d wear it.

  8. Kdlaf says:

    Affleck depsite his messy personal life, has a history of defending minorities and is genrally vocal about injustices and politica in the media – his interview with Bill Maher is a good example. Damon on the other hand plays so eerily into his family man perfect husband/person role and its showing more now. I know none of them are 100% perfect and at the end of the day they will be privileged millionaire white dudes who live in a bubble but Damon’s holier than thou attitude is so off-putting.

    • OhDear says:

      Yeah, I think Affleck seems more open-minded generally and understands that it’s a job, it’s not personal, let’s just get this done.

      Damon … well, I’ve always thought that his reputation was a bit too squeaky-perfect to be true. He’s taking her arguments personally. Part of me thinks that he’s also offended that someone he thinks to be “lesser than” (a not-as-powerful black woman) dares to challenge him and talk back.

    • jinni says:

      This whole episode with Ms. Brown has made me look at his constant shade throwing toward JLo in a whole different light now. JLo strikes me as the kind of woman that would have called out Damon on his BS and considering she’s a person of color he probably didn’t like that.

      I know some are going to point out that he married a Latina so he couldn’t possibly have a problem with POC, but he always love to throughout that she’s a civilian angle which always came off a little white savior complex like. Yes, I know she is most likely of European ancestry but with her coloring she isn’t really looked at the way Northern European or Anglo-Germanic people are considered white.

  9. Jayna says:

    It’s a great show. I’m into it. Effie has become the star. LOL I can’t wait for the next episode.

  10. Alexandra says:


    “That was not the full conversation, to be real. That was a more polite version of that exchange.”

    If that version was “polite”, I don’t want to know the full conversation.

  11. nicegirl says:

    Effie Brown is a BOSS. I watch the show because I like HER. Keep on keepin’ on, Effie!

    Not sure he can Damonsplain his way out of this one . . .

  12. jinni says:

    It annoys me that she now feels she should soften her approach all because trying to do her job ruffled delicate masculine sensibility to the point that they left the project. She shouldn’t have to change the way she conducted herself since she was doing so in a businesslike and professional manner, but now she feels she has to change herself in order to stroke some lame pansy *ss babies egos. A man in her position who did exactly what she did would be lauded as some kind of hero or genius, but she gets hated for it.

    • BooBooLaRue says:

      cosign on this

    • Jayna says:

      You missed the point. She saw the places she was in the wrong. This is a show with a lot of players and no one is perfect. She should definitely have handled Farrelly differently. Not in her point, but how she handled it. She knows it. I found it almost unprofessional. It’s what makes her appraisal of other problems on the set believable and her assessment, but she’s not playing a martyr that she was wronged by everybody. She looks at where she was wrong also. That makes her admirable, not playing the victim. It’s someone in a position of power looking at what were her weaknesses and what were her strengths. It’s how you get better in your field. It’s why you can truly believe her in her criticisms of the good old boy atmosphere she encountered too often, because she didn’t make herself immune from criticism either.

      Others may see it differently, but I just thought her approach was wrong and that she recognized it. She was right in what she was doing, but she handled it wrong in that one instance. I don’t think it was about assuaging a male ego in that instance, more about professionally how she should have handled it. We can all disagree to disagree.

      I wonder if Matt is all defensive or if he is hearing her on some of her viewpoints as he reads her interview on Indiewire. To be a fly on the wall.

      • INeedANap says:

        If a woman had quit her job after getting talked to like the Farrelly bros did, she would have been called weak and unprofessional; men everywhere would have said “if you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen”; and we would be musing that she needs a tougher skin if she wants the job badly enough.

        He was a weak, punk*ss little b!tch for quitting over that.

  13. Amy M. says:

    Basically a woman said no to a man about not going over budget and said man could not handle being told what to do by a woman and quit the show and was unprofessional. That’s basically how I see it. It only makes it look worse for the guys because she is a black woman and they brush off her concerns about the roles of minorities in show business (cast, crew etc.) Had she been a man (even a black man) I think they would have actually listened. Matt you disappoint me. 😟

  14. Catelina says:

    Honestly, it doesn’t surprise me one bit that Ben Affleck would have taken Effie’s side. Damon has been in the industry for a long time but he isn’t a director. Ben knows as well as anybody how budgets work, he has done smaller budget films himself, and Brown sounds like she was clearly being practical here. I’m sure Ben would have recognized that she was right on this issue before Matt would have. Disappointing that Matt wouldnt hear her out though. He could’ve learned something.

  15. Mrs. Darcy says:

    I have no idea what this show is, what, greenlighting movies? But I like the sound of her a lot! Not wanting to let down her mom is pretty awesome, it takes guts to stand up to the Hollywood boy’s club I’m sure. I’m weirdly not surprised by Affleck coming out the better – aside from his inability to keep it in his pants, I do get the impression he’s more with it than Damon. He’s smart, just not penis smart!

    • clara says:

      And how exactly do you know that he “can’t keep it in his pants”? Because of the crappy tabloid gossip that you read? Like magazines and gossip sites like this one don’t lie and create sensationalized narratives all the time and pretend to know a celebrity personally when they probably have absolutely no idea who they really are or what they do? Have you ever seen proof of Ben Affleck not being able to keep it in his pants? Has anyone who really knows him ever accused him of being the way you assume him to be? And by person I don’t mean blind “sources” (who are these people?) NO. Because there isn’t any in Affleck’s case specifically.I honestly do not understand how you can ever judge someone you don’t personally know for supposedly doing or being a certain way in the absence of any real fact to support your idea of them. It’s so wrong and it’s the main reason why I would hate to be famous.

  16. kay says:

    Let’s remember that Damon recently said no one is more misunderstood than Batflack. That’s all you need to know to understand how he thinks.

    • Kitten says:

      Why is it so hard to believe that Affleck is, in fact, misunderstood though?
      Do you really think the gossip rags know him personally?
      Do you really think that people are that simple?

  17. Saywhatwhen says:

    My question is how often do these guys go behind the backs of their male producers when the male producer tells them no. Also these Farrelly men sound like a bunch of whiny three y.o. boys…quitting because they get told no. How about some reasoned discussion with your producer. Grow up, you twats!!!

  18. Sarah01 says:

    I’m loving the fact she’s being upfront and honest, a lot of Hollywood is icky and sickly sweet and kind of bandwagon a theme like non apology apology. Matt Damon lost my respect when he took to long to respond and respond with some half ass lameo publicist apology.

  19. Naya says:

    I haven’t seen this season but I have watched all previous seasons. I assume she was brought in to replace Chris, who did all the heavy lifting producing in the past seasons. If so, then there’s DEFINITELY racist/sexist barriers in her way. Chris was big, loud, abbrasive and aggressive. He clashed with the creative side constantly and he had beef with studio too. But he always had complete support from his co-producers, Matt and Ben. They trusted his opinions and went to bat for him against Miramax,. Did they hire her to be a token face? Because that’s the only circumstance in which a hands on producer on a small budget film wasn’t going to clash with the creatives.

    And shame on the stoopid Farrelly brothers. You can’t be in the industry 20 years and storm off because a producer put her foot down. How do they survive real film shoots where Scott Rudin screams at the director on set or Harvey Weinstein threatens to choke someone if he doesn’t get the Dailies sent to him every evening?! But she’s black and she’s a woman so the only words expected out of her are “yes, sir” and if she puts on a slight baby voice, “I FEEL like MAYBE we can look at other ideas too….if you like. Sir”

  20. OCGAL999 says:

    Effie is awesome & ONLY REASON I WATCH!
    The director, Jason Mann, comes off poorly – ungrateful, elitist douche. So if there was editing, he’s probably worse than what is portrayed. First film & he was acting like Spielberg & sabotaging Effie by always going behind her back to get his way. SPOILED BRAT!

  21. love President Mr. Trump says:

    Love this

  22. Anniefannie says:

    The incident with Farrelly is being mischaracterized. He was attempting to show/affirm to Mann that he could shoot the film in digital and that it could lol look like film and stay within budget!! I watch the show obsessively and Effie did herself no favors in that conversation. Farrelly rightly was offended by her over the top objections and rightfully so!
    Additionally the situation with Damon was taken out of context. In some circumstances she comes across as professional and boss but not these two!!

    • Jayna says:

      I agree with you 100 percent. And I posted that part of her interview higher up where she admitted she should have handled it differently with Farrelly and it was the thing she regrets on the show and would have done differently.

      People have to watch the whole show in context. Most people commenting about the show, like on the AV Club site, are looking at her purely through her job as producer, not that she’s black or a woman, but looking at all the players in making the movie. And most often she is coming out on top in the comments section. She has a job to do, help the director bring his vision to the screen but on budget and on time with a novice director. It can be a thankless job.

      It’s a fascinating show to watch. Jason, who is very whiny and immature and spoiled, which Effie has to deal with constantly, like him dragging his feet on picking locations, but is actually very talented technically as we are beginning to see with filming underway, compared to the old seasons regarding the young directors they chose. And I think Effie came to appreciate his talent in that regard from what I glean from her interview. Jason is the one most coming off bad in the show, though,

      I don’t think this movie will be any good because of the script (maybe I’m wrong), but as a director I think he will come out fine. And Effie will come out great as the producer as it goes along and they are now in the process of shooting the movie as the episodes progress. I agree with her on her reasons for not wanting it moved to Atlanta. She gave good points. Even Farrelly saw where she was coming from.

    • Naya says:

      I’ll reserve my full opinion for after I watch this season BUT there are two things that are clear about the Farelly brothers from reading the coverage.
      1) They wrote a script in which the sole black woman is a Hooker who is beat up by a white pimp and that’s the gag. They’re either passively racist or overtly racist but their relation to black women is anything but healthy.
      2) They quit a job in the heat of the moment over a fairly typical falling out with a producer. If they were the Schumer sisters instead of the Farrelly brothers, they would be considered emotional, petty drama queens.

      • INeedANap says:

        Yeah, that’s what I’ve been thinking. If she felt she was unprofessional she should apologize, but Hollywood is full of angry, abusive men who explode in a rage over nothing and everyone is expected to keep going. She delivered nothing like the abuse David Fincher doles out, for example.

        I’d bet real, actual money that the Farrelly bros wouldn’t have quit if Effie Brown was a white man.

      • kairos says:


        People who keep pointing out that she should have handled the Farrelly situation differently are beating a moot point to a pulp. The Farrelly Bros overreacted, and everyone else in the industry is expected to contort themselves into knots over male egos. If a white man goes into anything looking for a fight, and they do all the time because they are used to getting their way, everyone accepts it as part of the process. Effie does it and they quit like tantrum-throwing babies. Whether she was right or wrong in that instance is irrelevant. If you work in the industry you WILL deal with that kind of thing from people from time to time.

    • Annabelle says:

      I completely agree. In the Farrelly instance, she should have handled that situation differently. I think the approach of Farrelly proposed would have helped Mann concede that digital is best approach, thus meeting everyone’s goal of staying within budget. He is much more likely to listen to another director’s thoughts on this rather than a producer, who from day one was explicitly against using film. Farrelly would have been able to offer a different perspective that Mann trusted more on this topic. As a producer she doesn’t have to do everything and win every argument – its about putting the right people and elements in place to meet that common goal. In this instance, it was about HER ego and I understand her frustrations but she lost site of the ultimate goal. I love her, but her approach in this situation was wrong.

  23. trumpet says:

    She has a lot of head weight even before she’s a bleep on Hollywood scene. Just imagine if she actually does something people actually watch. ÑNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXTTT

    • Jo 'Mama' Besser says:

      She’s been in the business for 20 years and has worked as a producer on more than 50 movies, I’d say she’s more than a blip.

  24. loopita says:

    She has a lot of head weight even before she’s a bleep on Hollywood scene. Just imagine if she actually does something people actually watch. ÑNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXTTT

  25. Jaded says:

    Damon really is on a self-destructive streak with his ‘foot-in-mouth-itis’ and subsequent back-tracking and ‘what-I-really-meant-itis’. Losing my like for him in a big way.

    • Jayna says:

      LOL I know. Who would have thought he would stick his foot in his mouth so many times in one promo season.

      Ben doesn’t surprise me, though. I’ve always found his interviews purely regarding movie-making and his approach and mindset to it interesting and showed his talent. I think he comes at things with a cooler head and not a know-it-all elitist attitude, which is what Matt showed.

  26. islandwalker says:

    I have been watching the shows. Jason Mann the novice director they chose is a grade A prick who won’t listen to anyone. He’s already a diva and hasn’t even completed the project (as I am watching anyway.) He constantly looks over her and basically ignores her when she is talking. I will note that he also does that to everyone else trying to reign him in. She is a gnat in his presence to be swatted away. She has stood her ground the whole time but I don’t envy her working in those conditions.

  27. K2 says:

    If a woman had behaved as Farrelly did, the shade thrown would have been 1) huge, and 2) gendered. She’d have been called hysterical and unprofessional. And a guy in Effie’s shoes would’ve been lauded to the skies.

    This cements my view of Damon. Unexpectedly, I like Affleck a ton more than I did ten minutes ago. He may maltreat his wife, but apparently he knows sexist racist BS when he sees it, too.

  28. Lolo says:

    I watched the first PG, and then never went back for any of the subsequent iterations. I just didn’t find the show very compelling. But I dipped in when they brought it back and now am hooked on the current season, largely because of Effie. It is compelling to watch her do her job. The director, Jason, is just basically the worst. If his was the personality that popped the most on this show, I would have tuned out long ago. It’s like nails on a chalkboard watching/listening to him. Effie’s handling of the Farrelly thing wasn’t the best. Like it or not, the Farrellys are star directors. That means they are used to a certain level of deference in Hollywood, as are Damon and Affleck. It’s not fair or just, but that’s how it is. You deal with talent differently than you deal with below-the-line people on a set. So I think Effie’s main mistake was in treating them how she would any other producer who stepped on her toes, perhaps not realizing in the moment that they could, and would, just walk away. The other producer on that phone call (Joubert, I think) said to her after it was over, something like “you went into that looking for a fight” and he was right. Part of working with other people is recognizing what buttons can be pushed and when and how and in that case, she chose incorrectly. The Farrellys were immature, just walking at the first sign of conflict. They weren’t even willing to discuss or work out the issue (which, ultimately, probably could have been pretty easily smoothed over) after that one phone call, but that’s the luxury that their success has afforded them. They don’t need the money and they don’t need the exposure. The don’t have to put up with anything they don’t want to. Damon has worked with the Farrellys before and is close to them, I think he mainly was coming from a place of being just personally and professionally embarrassed, that he brought them on and then they were mistreated (their thinking, not mine) by his producer. We don’t know for sure, of course, but I do think that had the producer that clashed with the Farrellys been a man, he would have had the same reaction, and I didn’t think it was at all weird that he sided with them. I can totally see why Affleck, as the person less connected to the Farrellys, took a longer view and didn’t take it so personally, simply because it was less personal for him. And he ended up going around her too, eventually, to get Jason his precious film.

  29. funcakes says:

    Don’t worry it’s only Matt Damon. The world with continue to spin. Hes a legend only in his mind.

  30. Nichole says:

    Why does Jason Mann not get called out. He was a nothing who won contest , and thus far has acted like a spoiled brat who is far too used to mommy and daddy paying for every thing and every dream. The industry cares about one thing and one thing only, money! But time and time again he turned his head to that causing one issue after another. He went over Effie, which was rude as hell, and made her look like a full blown idiot. She is not. She is a wise business woman. Why is the issue about Effie’s behavior and not Jason’s behavior? This show makes directors seem more like dictators. I hope they get a women director next time and she demands to make her movie on film. I would bet $20 the studio would give her a HARD hell no and that would be the end of that discussion.

  31. Neah23 says:

    I’m sure she not his favorite person. Lol because of her the public started to see who he really is, behind his public facade that he and his PR team work so hard on.

  32. Brandi says:

    Damon can be a jerk. Remember how he dumped Minnie Driver? He told Oprah they were broken up and Minnie found out when she saw the show. Crazy. D bag move.

  33. Effierocks says:

    Damon, despite being very charming, smart and attractive has always appeared to me to be the type of man who in real life expects women to act submissive and dumb for him. He’ll say the ‘correct’ thing when he’s prepared but really he doesn’t believe anything he espouses, he just wants to be accepted as ‘politically correct’ in Hollywood circles. Of course Hollywood is about fifty years out of date but the think they’re progressives so they don’t understand how they’re being offensive when their ignorance and hypocrisy is revealed.

    I remember an article (from British newspaper, Sunday Times) years ago when they were promoting one of the oceans movies and they were using the premiere to raise money for darfur, they had a journalist spend the night with them partying and playing poker. The description of Matt and his wife disappointed me tbh, she came across as a bimbo who didn’t know anything, deferred to him and couldn’t string a sentence together. Says everything about him really.

    I love Effie, we need more people like her. She makes me proud to be female.

    • Effierocks says:

      Also to add, as Damon made such a big deal about picking the ‘best’ director, they didn’t. They picked a spoilt, whiny rich kid with zero life experience who’s parents have created everything for him. That is the problem with Hollywood in a nutshell. It’s all about growing up the the privilege bubble and getting by on what’s been handed to you on a silver platter and who you know.

    • Kerry says:

      Really? Do you have a link? I always wondered if this was how Matt treats WOC/women in general, I wonder how he treats his wife.

    • Catelina says:

      Ditto, Would love to read that

  34. Careygloss says:

    she is the cat’s pajamas. if I had to go through that I’d be mortified. but we need women like her to talk about it, because most of us (like me) still tend to operate under the idea that it should be a priority to get men to like us. at work and everywhere else. I know it’s wrong, but years of external programming are at work here. and I’m surprised at affleck, and really bothered about damon. he’s said some questionable stuff on his latest movie’s promotional tour….

    • madly says:

      Word to the idea that women want to be liked and will swallow stuff. It’s like getting a man to like them is some kind of social achievement even if the guy is a jerk.

      Case in point, I took a road trip with a girl and two guys. One guy was honestly trying to figure out some communication issues with his girlfriend and how to talk to girls in general better. I tried to give him advice from a woman’s perspective. Well, the other guy who is a sexist pig decided he didn’t like what I had to say, cut me off and told him not to listen to my “chick” advice and proceeded to tell him that he needed to act more like an alpha male and assume women will just want him. Sadly, he wasn’t joking. Of course, I had to say something and he ended up pouting for the rest of the trip home. I didn’t care that he doesn’t and won’t ever like me, but the girl I was traveling with keeps telling me that he’ll forgive me and we could still be friends. Why do I care if this jackass wants to be friends with me? Everytime he kept saying how women were bad drivers and bad at this and that, he was insulting me to my face. Why would I willingly put up with that? It’s not a bragging right to me that a guy like that is my friend.

  35. rudy says:

    Effie made it VERY clear that what you view on Project Greenlight is only a piece of what actually happened. The short story version. May not be scripted but easily edited so one person becomes Darth Vader. Effie had to fight for only two cuts. A world of color becomes black and white.

    She was very outspoken about the phone call with Farrelly. It did not go down as we see on HBO. How much more muck and mire did Effie have to wade through? I hope that this experience furthers her career. I am sure it will do nothing for Matt Damon’s prejudices. Who knew he was such a misogynistic dingbat.

  36. madly says:

    I have never understood the Matt Damon love, to be honest. He lost me when he insulted the intelligence of our troops, calling them uneducated. In order to advance within the ranks, military men and women must get training and education. It’s a requirement. Non such requirement exists for hollywood. My brother in law is constantly traveling around doing trainings for his job in the Air Force. Shut up Matt Damon.

    This just reinforces my view of him.

    The real question is why we gave him so much credit in the first place? Why was he considered the golden calf of doing no wrong?

  37. Ginger says:

    I just got out of a job where the men were very obviously handled in a much different way than the women. It was a private corporation and I shudder to think that I was probably making far less than the men were. I was supposed to be in a lead position but kept getting treated in a less than professional manner by my trainer and former lead. I was really glad when another position opened up with a government agency. I’m much, much happier. And yet, I made a really good friend while working there and now I’m watching her go through similar struggles. It just pains me no end that Women in the 21st Century are still having to go through this crap! It makes me applaud Effie and Jennifer for speaking out.

  38. Anna says:

    Where can I find a good background on all this? In short, why did all this hit the fan?

  39. Pondering thoughts: Let's not change anything because somebody might get upset by the changes :-S says:

    I would have expected Damon to support a decent pay and not just the blunt minimum.
    How much did he bag, btw?

  40. JoJo says:

    Another example of Ben Affleck being a very decent human, which I’ve never doubted:


  41. Justin B says:

    Shorter Effie Brown = if it weren’t for Matt Damon very few people would have heard of me. Thanks, Matt.

  42. Rich says:

    Effie is more concerned about being right than anything else. She throws Co workers under the bus ” Allison (?) didn’t get the signatures so we can’t shoot at night”. She allows miscommunication and then takes no responsibility for the outcome. Everything is someone else’s problem. I believe she was hired in order to provide drama as she is easily insulted but never in doubt.