File this under “Elizabeth Olsen is Ice Cold.” Last year, Elizabeth Olsen and Boyd Holbrook were happily engaged. They were both up-and-coming actors with successful careers. Then, out of nowhere, their engagement was off. A few months later, the rumors about Olsen and Tom Hiddleston started heating up, and some of us believe that Tom and Elizabeth started seeing each other while they were filming I Saw the Light. Well, I’m not sure about the timeline a year ago, but Boyd covers the new issue of Man of the World and he says flat-out that Olsen dumped him “on the same day my best friend died.”
Boyd Holbrook is bitter about his breakup with Elizabeth Olsen. Though the couple called off wedding plans in January, the 34-year-old actor now describes their breakup as a “divorce.” In fact, he tells Man of the World’s Issue No. 14, “On the same day that my best friend died, I got a call from my girl to tell me it was over.”
Neither Boyd nor Elizabeth’s reps would confirm their engagement in March 2014, and neither star’s reps would confirm the breakup, either. The split rumors were seemingly confirmed, however, when Elizabeth stopped wearing her engagement ring. To this day, the actress has discussed her breakup with Boyd.
As if the breakup weren’t tough enough, Boyd spent much of 2015 grieving the loss of photographer David Armstrong. “David was the first person in my life to encourage me. He told me to do everything I wanted to do. No one had ever told me that before. He was a very important figure in my life,” the Jane Got a Gun star tells the magazine. “Important figure is not even close to what he was.”
In the months that followed, Boyd says he became “consumed with my own personal depression, my own personal scenario at the time.” He was able to put the pieces of his life back together over time, and doing so gave him a new perspective. “What happened over the course of the journey was that I started noticing the different types of trees,” he says. “I started noticing beauty, the details.”
The New York Times ran an obituary for David Armstrong on October 31, 2014. I’m not 100% sure when Tom and Elizabeth started working on ISTL, although it’s worth noting that they did know each other prior to filming. I’m not saying Tom is a homewrecker, but I think I’ll say that Elizabeth Olsen might have seen her opening to date Tom and she dumped Boyd so she could be available to date other people (Tom). Anyway… breaking off an engagement the same day your man’s BFF dies? COLD.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Armstrong died October 26, 2014 of liver cancer.
All the Hiddleston lovers here need to accept that they’re not dating, she’s dating the director who’s old enough to be her dad. But straight…
How do we know this as a fact? Just because her sister married someone older?
Please do not presume that all Dragonflies think the same way. Thank you.
One obviously posed hand-holding pap shot does not “dating” make.
Neither does a staged pap walk outside a popular London restaurant.
I’m gonna just sit back and watch this thread unfold …
Pouring a glass of Malbec and sitting back to observe the fray from a safe distance. Let the speculation and conspiracy theories with value judgements begin.
‘Let the speculation and conspiracy theories begin’ haha, yes. I already discussed the ‘EVERYTHING IS PR’ thing a couple times below but I know it’s mostly pointless to suggest that not every story in every magazine or website is cunningly planted by PR. Especially when it’s not even coherent stories. The fact is, we know very little about any of this. What I do know is that some blogs and ‘fans’ do their utmost to spread untrue stories and discord amongst other fans, and are not above pushing fake stories or sending creepshots to newspapers to try and get one up on their fave for ‘lying’. After seeing some of the Cumberbatch skeptics sending stories to Enty and other websites (and possibly even the Star) I’m 100% unconvinced that this is all PR. The gossip mill generates it’s own content all the time after all.
Have a seat here on the glider, Neverland, and have a glass of wine with me.
Thanks, lilacflower. Not sure why, but the comments about everything being PR are the ones which get responses from me. Probably because as much as some say T&L tried to push a PR narrative, there are plenty of gossip readers also trying to push a PR narrative by ignoring facts. Hey ho! I’ll enjoy that wine.
PS. I’m not trying to say Tom is perfect, I’m just a little uncomfortable with some of the declarations and assumptions being made about him and Lizzie. Not on this website necessarily, but other commenters (usually tumblr gossip regulars who try and spread their stuff elsewhere) have been really really presumptive about them. Probably shouldn’t be surprised though, gossip rests on a lot of assumption.
@Neverland, months ago, I pointed out that this relationship probably ended in October/early November and not in mid-January when Olsen released a statement and I was told I was wrong, in denial, naive, and Tom was an evil, cheating home wrecker. When I pointed out the necessary lead time for a monthly magazine’s January 2 description of Boyd as “single”, people, who had until that point been clinging to the mid-January date, insisted that the breakup must have been the last days of December and the magazine would have stopped everything for an expensive rewrite and told me again that I was wrong, in denial, and, oh yes, Tom is an evil, cheating home wrecker. Now that Boyd has placed the break up at around the time I said it was, well, Tom, who has denied a relationship with her, is still a lying, cheating home wrecker. I like facts and evidence before judgment. Others prefer wild speculation followed by judgment. It’s how the world spins. Gingerbread?
hey Lilacflowers, I’ll join you with that Malbec, if I may. This is going to get interesting…
@Teacakes, Colin is bringing you a carafe.
@Lilac, I’ll have some of that Malbec
LOL@ Lilacflowers
“It’s how the world spins.” “Gingerbread?”
Does Gingerbread go well with Malbec though? This is lovely commentary and reading this am @ CB, and I am cherishing every splendid, guilt-ridden moment
😉
Mmmmm….Malbec….you clearly have good taste in wine Lilacflowers.
Oh, dis gon get good.
Did Elizabeth know his bff had died. Had he already told her? Cause if she didn’t know then yeah her timing sucks but it’s not cold. If she did know then, yeah. . .
I was wondering too
I have a feeling if she dumped him a week later.He would say she dumped me a week after my best friend died.
Oh, it’s cold. COLD AS ICE, as the old Foreigner song used to go.
That was my question as well. It sounds like he found out that his friend died, and then she called him; it sounds like she didn’t know.
Can we call in Collin for some C-mas cookies or is it too soon?
Gingerbread cookies, pizzelles, frosted sugar cookies, and chocolate peppermint bark are all available at the veranda buffet and in the jungle clearing vending machines. Mulled cider, egg nog, and hot chocolate are also available
Good old Colin, always at the ready in a crisis. I can picture him now schlepping across the tropical clearing with his silver tray loaded with goodies for those who need a bit of cheering up at Crimble time! ie, me mainly. Will he do a hot mince pie with dripping brandy butter if I get my order in soon? Also maybe a slice of figgy pudding.
I am spending way too much time with Colin, and I fear getting fat.
I’ll just sit here with my green smoothie and watch this thread unfold.
Colin has all the requested goodies, including green smoothies and fight pudding, at the ready. He has also organized several exercise classes and carved out a running track for us
Carved the track himself? Why wasn’t I called in to supervise???
@Invadertak, he wanted it to be a surprise
That should be figgy pudding, not fight pudding. Autocorrect strikes again
Pah! Get off the fence and have a crack. She obviously broke it off with him the day his BFF died because it’s all about her!
It was not cold. It was coincidental.
It’s not clear that she knew (or even he knew) about the death when she broke it off. Of course, it is horrible if she did know.
Yes that’s what I was just thinking. I have no particular side to take here, but I doubt she knew. At the same time, it must have been devastating for him to lose both on the same day.
Exactly. I mean, if she rang him up in the morning, and he found out his friend died that afternoon how is that her fault?
I don’t think she knew, and I don’t think he’s implying she did. More that everything that could happen horribly happened on the same day.
Well – he was her fiance. This was someone very close to him. Do you think that they don’t talk at all? Text even? I doubt she was completely unaware – that’s ridiculous. It was liver cancer- it wasn’t a sudden heart attack, or a car accident.
I can believe that maybe she didn’t realize how sick he was, and maybe he coincidentally got the calls almost in succession – but when you get horrible heart wrenching news, most people turn to their loved ones for comfort – I just find it weird that she supposedly didn’t know. When my great aunt passed this year – the first thing I did was call my husband. I was gutted – that coupled with the fact that she broke the engagement over the phone is just kind of suspect I guess.
One of my closest friends is undergoing treatment for pancreatic cancer. She has told her boss but not her co-workers, one of her four siblings and made him swear not to tell his wife; her attorney, and me because I’m her health care proxy. I have sworn not to tell anyone. My secretary did something similar and revealed her breast cancer only to me, her daughter and her twin sister. People are not always open about serious illness. It is their choice but it can sometimes make for very uncomfortable moments
If they were engaged, did she really call him by phone to dump him? To give simply a call to call of an engagement sounds a little weird, regardless of whether the friend died the same day. Huh. Although I guess maybe it’s better to cut the cord than let it drag on? Or maybe actors are separated by so much distance, making a phone call is the only way to do it? I’m baffled a little bit, but then I’m not sure whether to judge actors by a different sense of etiquette.
As Boyds fiancee, I’m sure she knew about David’s cancer. And it’s possible that he died later that day after the fated phone call.
But I don’t think she should have stayed with Boyd if she wants to break up simply because he’s mourning the loss of his friend. It’s really just a s***** timing isn’t it? My guess is her and Boyd were already having problems and she couldn’t resist the Hiddles charm. I just hope he broke up with Boyd before taking up with Tom.
“Or maybe actors are separated by so much distance, making a phone call is the only way to do it?”
yes. it always amazes how people don’t seem to get how relationships between people who have to travel work. i’m in one of those relationships, a serious one at that, and sometimes you don’t see each other for a long while and you interact and stay together how you can- seeing each other when possible, skype, phone calls etc. so yeah, I guess a break up would unfold through a phone call, if there was no chance of seeing each other for some time.
^^^^^ THIS
Exactly, ERINN
Yeah it’s one thing if they were having problems and that happened to be the day she ended it, and quite another if he called and said “my best friend died” and she’s like “sorry, and by the way let’s break up”.
Yes, and she could have broken up with him before his friend died, on the same day. Can’t see that would make her cold.
I think it is better to tell the truth right away. if she pretended for 2-3 months everything was OK it would’ve felt like ultimate betrayal.
People start questioning everything when they find out someone they trusted lied to them for a long period of time and they didn’t suspect. It really plays a number on people. Don’t ever do that, even if you feel like it is a kinder thing to do.
I agree wholeheartedly. Best to be truthful and upfront when you know you want out, rather than living a lie for months.
lol For me i’s clear by the way he said that it was after his friend die which is why it made worse for him. Maybe Elizabeth didn’t know it yet, but the whole thing stinks. You don’t break a long relationship/engagement over the phone like that. The way he said it seems like it was out of the blue, he didn’t expected but if she already knew or not, still cold. Yes, the shooting for I saw the light was already happening so no matter how you look at it, Elizabeth looks bad.
I remember Boyd when he was a successful model.
If EO called him on the phone to break up, she may not have known about the pal’s death.
Who breaks up with their fiancée over the phone? On a side note, this guy sounds like a real emotional handful. In another quote he said he acts because he desperately wants to get out of his own skin because “it crawls”. He comes across as very depressive. I can see where bubbly, intelligent, and fun-loving Tom Hiddleston would have appeared like a ray of light to a woman who put up with a morose, depressive type for years.
Who breaks up over the phone? I broke up with my fiancee at the time via email Granted we were on different continents for 6 months at that point.
He didn’t seem all that eager to talk to me either. Both of us were too chicken and wanted to avoid a confrontation.
“Who breaks up with their fiancée over the phone?”
people who are physically apart and have no chance of seeing each other for some time? what do you suggest they do, fake it until they see each other again?
After doing a quick search, it looks like EO and Boyd were on different continents too when she broke it off. She was filming ISTL in Shreveport, and he was filming Narcos in Bogota.
It’s not ideal, but all things being equal, I’d rather get a break-up phone call from my fiance sooner rather than later, especially if it was going to be a few months before we could meet up in person and they were going to move on with their life (and/or start up with someone else) in the meantime.
I wss broken up with via phone and I actually preffer it that way. It was like a band aid – painfull but quick. It also saved me from crying in front of him, which I would hate if I did.
The gentlest breakup I ever experienced was by letter. He wrote down all sorts of lovely things about why he admired me but it just wasn’t working and he couldn’t be there for me in a capacity other than friend. Things he wouldn’t have been able to get out in person because you don’t just sit there quietly listening when someone dumps you – you argue. And he was right about the reasons it wasn’t working. We’ve been able to remain friends.
Dara with the location scoop… you go girl.
Phone call is perfectly fine if they’re both working and it needs to be done. Period. Sucks that it happened the same day his friend passed away.
While it’s nice to get confirmation that the breakup happened earlier than January (as some of us suspected), it does come off as a way of throwing shade on his ex and a bit nasty on his part. He could have been more professional about it.
@ Locke Lamora – I love your name and the books!
She probably didn’t, but man, this sounds bad and makes TH look shady, too. I hope he regrets getting into bed with her, PR-wise I mean.
If you’re close enough to someone you want to spend your lives together you can tell in their voice and how they speak something is upsetting them. Phone or person. Or even how a text message or email is composed.
And IF phone that’s still cold. I’ve waited Until I saw a soon to be ex in person because I felt that was respectful. Even when we were apart for a few months and I was feeling it was over. I wouldn’t move on until we can talk face to face.
lying about your feelings is disrespectful imo. waiting to tell them it’s over until you see each other again would mean lying and faking it in the meantime, and that would hurt me far more.
I broke up with my boyfriyend of two years on the phone – not because I wanted to, but because I lost control of events. Our last meeting had been bad, and after I got home I knew my romantic feelings for him were gone. We had talked about meeting the next day, but he called, nervous, and started asking a lot of direct questions about how I felt and what would happen next. I wouldn’t and couldn’t fib, only to dump him in person later. So I personally don’t condemn others for breaking up over the phone, cause I know I did it to someone I cared for and wanted to do right by.
ell
It’s not lying unless you keep acting like there’s love. Usually there’s a pull away and no more “i love yous” or being available.
And I think a lot of people are viewing this too closely with bf gf as a justification for breaking up on the phone. They were engaged. Different set of rules if you want to justify that as acceptable.
Ankhel
There’s much to be said for how people process loss. I think that’s what was going on. They were processing. As for in person if you can you should. Unless distance, time, or a sense of danger is in play why can’t you?
By Olsen’s circumstances we have for hindesight sake it’s more that she might have not wanted to waste time with her jump off and had both feet out the door while still engaged. So there’s a lot more that’s wrong that isn’t the phone call to end an engagement. If this is all true it seems about as cold as cheating on a fiance who still thinks things are fine.
Is he related to Hal Holbrook? That’s the only part of this story I would find interesting.
I wondered that too, looks like there’s no relation.
I went to a taping of Designing Women once, and Hal sat in the audience right by us to watch the whole thing.
LOL
Man needs to take down woman to boost his own profile. We wouldn’t even be talking about him if he didn’t name check his ex.
This 1000000 times over.
I’m sure there is MUCH more to this story than his “oh poor me” narrative. Barf.
I don’t think that’s how it played out. Read the article again just to make sure. Sometimes things are offered in packaging as “click bait”.
He never name checked her at all. He said “my girl”. They never released any statements about their relationship, so all of us are just assuming it’s her based on paparazzi photos (together, ring off, etc).
+1000. Who the h does this guy think he is? I just looked at his IMDb and the only thing he was in that I’ve even heard of is some television movie from years ago that I have no recollection of him being in. What a crybaby.
You didn’t see Gone Girl? He played the skeevy grifter that robs Amy. He’s now in a popular Netflix series called Narcos that was nominated for a couple of Golden Globes.
He does come off as a crybaby, but he’s doing just fine as an actor. Getting on a successful TV show is good for one’s career.
They were together for three years! Give him a damn break!
This x’s 100,000 bc I am a Movie and selective TV/Cable Channel Addict, and I have never heard of the guy in my life before this.
Just sayin’….
And they’ve been apart for a year. Time for him to move on
Narcos is a pretty good show, but the best part is the actor who plays Pablo Escobar, not this guy, who is a generic FBI agent.
. I don’t think he’s saying it in a way that blames her for being cold, more like the “when it rains, it pours” idea where everything falls in at once sometimes. Don’t think he’s slighting her though. Both Boyd and Elizabeth were gorgeous in the movie they starred in-stupid movie, but I remember just thinking they were both beautiful specimens. I’m not surprised they fell in love on that set!
Even if she didn’t know he had died she would have known he was very ill. Either way it seems cold to just check out. This wasn’t some casual relationship. You would think she’d want to be there for him.
But he might have suffered from cancer for month if not years, is she supposed to fake being in love with him for such a long time?
If somebody would do that to me I would be mad and hurt and feel stupid and manipulated.
Maybe she didnt know about the death, still, it’s cold breaking an engagement via phone call. Douche.
I think he also worded it in a way to make it sound like she was heartless. He’s a douche too.
It’s definitely suspect to mention her in that way, but at the same time, if she cheated and dumped him, the temptation to not take the high road can be pretty strong. I know I’d totally let that drop too if I was in his position. lol
Just curious for everyone that thinks she should have stuck around, how long do you give to someone you no longer want to be in a relationship with? Six months, a year, longer to support him grieving the loss of his friend? Genuinely curious because life is not always convenient with great timing for these types of things.
Certainly not that long. The only time I can see even six months is in a case like Khloe and Lamar when someone is having serious health problems, and even then that would be in more of a caretaker capacity.
That being said, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask someone to wait a week or two for a better moment, especially if the couple isn’t in the same city and wouldn’t have to interact much in person.
Personally I don’t think ppl should stay in a relationship just because the time sucks…I feel that’s pretty much as cheating since they don’t want to be there anyway and usually nothing good comes out of it…That said, does a week or two really makes a difference on a long time relationship that has reached its end? Or breaking up but showing some support if the moment is that bad?
Anyway, every relationship is different so I guess it’s difficult to set a general rule.
Still if I would have to urgently break up with my fiancé in such a bad time of his life I would at least do it face to face…breaking an engagement via phone call is pretty cold and inconsiderate.
I waited about 4 or so months. He went to study abroad and I knew it was over before he left, but never got a chance to tell him because of the stress he was under for school. During those months I met my now husband and was upfront about the situation. Nothing would progress until I could see him in person and end it that way. If there’s caring and respect you can wait.
We’re friends 10+ years later.
so during those 4 months did you talk to him and pretend to still love him and want to be with him?
I’m sorry but IMO that’s worse than breaking up via phone. I’m sure you think you are the generous person in this, but lying to him and playing with his feelings is just a douche move and not honourable.
And by the way not telling him before he left was cowardly… it seems his ‘stress’ served you as excuse.
The guy thought he has a girlfriend at home who loves him. You played him for 4+ months with declarations of love via phone. You were lying and faking love. The poor guy maybe made future plans with you… while you were in an emotional affair with your now-husband. That wasn’t fair to both of them.
I actually think FLORC was right. This was not a situation that had a clean solution, no matter when she broke it off, the ex would have suffered. Rather than ruin his trip, not have a chance to talk it out in person, she put HER life on hold for several months to see him and deliver the news.
I am sure she didn’t have to fake affection – you may realize that someone is not the right life partner, but it doesn’t mean necessarily that you stopped caring for them completely – from the sounds of it, staying friends, she handled it right for their circumstances. Also, she told her now husband her situation and obviously he agreed to wait. Kudos to him too.
Again, it depends on the couple, the reason one person wants to break up and everything else. It is not clear cut.
In this case, it sounds like EO took her fiancé by surprise, and at a terrible moment in his life – even if she did not know the friend died the same day, she definitely would have known he was in the stage of terminal cancer. Cold.
“This was not a situation that had a clean solution, no matter when she broke it off, the ex would have suffered.”
i find it selfish. if you let a person go they of course will suffer, but you also give them a chance to start again and meet new people that might make them happy. it would be royally peeved if my partner strung me along for 4 months, just waiting to dump me as soon as we meet again. get it over and done with when you know it’s over; it might be painful but it’s honest and honesty in relationships is key.
This is the thing about us humans – we process things differently. FLORC and I have one opinion, ell and Ollie another.
At the end of the day, one person is getting dumped and hurt. The person leaving makes a choice regarding timing and manner based on their personality and what they know of the other person and act accordingly.
I do not believe that FLORC kept quiet for four months for her own good, so I don’t think it selfish at all. She was trying to spare her ex added stress during a difficult time, when she knew he would go away and be far from support – friends, relatives, home.
I happen to agree with her, you don’t and that is fine. If my husband were to leave me, I would hope he would not do it while I were in the hospital, or bereaved, or in the middle of exams. You obviously would rather be told right away. Cool.
Jeez those were a couple of mean comments. It may not have been how some folks would have chosen to handle the end of a relationship, but FLORC handled things in her own life how she felt was appropriate.
“Jeez those were a couple of mean comments. It may not have been how some folks would have chosen to handle the end of a relationship, but FLORC handled things in her own life how she felt was appropriate.”
she was acting like she took the high road by not dumping her boyfriend on the phone, and a couple of us pointed out it isn’t necessarily the high road, but rather something we would prefer not to happen to us. how’s that mean?
“Jeez those were a couple of mean comments. It may not have been how some folks would have chosen to handle the end of a relationship, but FLORC handled things in her own life how she felt was appropriate.”
I agree with this. We definitely shouldn’t apply the same logic to EO, though, because she’s a celebrity whom we should absolutely judge despite having limited information and not having actually met any of the parties involved, amirite? [Please place everything after the the word “this” in sarcasm font.]
Late reply!
OK. The story of my circumstances. We were old aquaintances from HS. We got together. Dated a bit. He left for a semester abroad. We before this were acting more as friends with bennies as the relationship sort of disolved to that, but he announces his leaving as I was realizing this was to not work out. Then I met my husband, but told him the deal and refused his advances because it seemed wrong IMO to start a new relationship as a cheater or liar.
As he was abroad I got word he was not faithful, but would rather discuss this in person. And as our time apart went on there was no leading him on. No future plans made. I was not acting happy, inlove, etc… Only friendly and trying to work out a time when we can talk. I wouldn’t change a thing as I felt and feel this was correct. And we still joke that he almost broke up with me in out AIM chats, but felt this would be hurtful to me. So, we were on the same page, but didn’t realize it.
Ollie/ell
His stress was meant as busy. He didn’t have time and we saw little of eachother. Also, I was still figuring out what was going on. I was 19/20.
As we are we are friends. Not friendly, but true friends and he credits the way I handled the break up to this. So, this is very much on what circumstances allow. And at no point was I chatting with him lovey dovey or telling him i loved him. It was almost platonic. We were young and it is remembered as “fun” if that clarifies things *cough*.
Ell
Yes! I put value in face to face discussions. I viewed it as respectful. So did he.
I do see how to each their own. I just feel being engage raises the stakes. There’s a promise of life commitment there. 1 that imo shouldn’t end like break ups of bf gfs.
Vauvert
*applause*
As I mentioned above – do not lie. If it is over, it is over. It is not kinder to pretend otherwise. The damage will be greater if you lie.
I think it all depends on the situation and the person you are with and where both of you are at. There are a lot of factors to consider, that all these cut and dry answers are making me chuckle. What works for one couple may not work for another.
Not only “don’t lie”–tell the whole truth. The last relationship I was in, years ago, had me in a similar situation as the injured party in Florc’s little anecdote, except worse–the blockhead was technically still married, which he neglected to EVER mention, and was “dating” me for several months while he decided if he wanted to file for divorce from his wife or not. I of course dumped him immediately when I found out, but I guess I’d be considered an a$$hole for doing so via text–I didn’t really think he deserved the courtesy of a phone call or an in-person meeting. Got me to swear off dating entirely, to this day.
That was right around the time when Tom was transitioning from Nashville to Shreveport. Rodney confirmed that Tom was rehearsing lines with Lizzy while he was in Nashville, so to me, this puts adds weight to the theory that there affair started while working together. Not that there’s anything wrong with breaking up with someone and dating someone else, but this highlights the PR games both of them have been playing the past year as they’ve fueled speculation with the rumors, pap walks and half assed denials.
All I can think is she must have really wanted out of that relationship if she was willing to trade her fiancé in for a fling with a guy who lives halfway across the world.
I wonder if Lizzy will be answering him back through her publicist. He/she has been busy letting tabs know that THEO is over.
This. Exactly.
I couldn’t start something with someone who lived so far away unless he was incredibly special and I was willing to dive headlong into the geographical changes it would likely bring. But maybe a fling was all they both wanted. Who knows. I don’t think we’ll ever know.
There’s only so much you can pin on PR when the tabloid stories about them splitting aren’t even selling the same story though.
I know it’s popular to blame every story on the omnipresent PR, but given Lizzie denied being with Tom at TIFF, and that //did// get around gossip/news websites (ignoring tumblr because there’s always some people who won’t let it go) so would be seen as effective for her team and not needing later contradicting comments (I said were not dating! But now I let my team say we were dating but broke up! But my team said he dumped me, now they’re say I dumped him… somehow I don’t buy that any PR team(s) is that incompetent), I personally find it unlikely that her PR is lacking skill to the point they’d then send multiple contradictory break up accounts to the Star and NI of all places, changing dates and situations. I thought everyone here said her go-to place was USWeekly?
Idk, personally I think the Star stuff recently is too contradictory and they don’t exactly care about making things up for clicks. PR is used but it’s not going to be used slapdash like that imo. This all seems to me like Tom and Lizzie maybe had something, started to put it into the public via USWeekly (if you want to say any PR was used, look there), then changed their minds/broke up/whatever, and then other tabloids jumped on with their version to get clicks. Hiddleston fans will generate a shit-ton of traffic with any mention of his name after all. Gossip sites aren’t stupid, they know how to get attention.
Just my thoughts though. I know others have decided it’s all PR so *shrugs*.
I think the point is simply to get attention, not to convince people one way or another that they are or aren’t a couple. I actually thought that the rumors of her and Evans/Renner were more put out there to cast doubt on whether or not her an Tom were hooking up. Make it sound so outrageous that she’d be hooking up with three Marvel men that none of the would be believed, when the truth was that just her and Tom hooked up.
I think they did the July pap walks to add weight to the rumors in case they had Oscar campaigns in their future and once those hopes were dashed in Toronto, they may have ended things there or at least not bothered to make the effort to keep anything going after that. Her denial didn’t convince me that they weren’t hooking up, just that it wasn’t serious. Who knows, they could still be hooking up here and there, if the Hawaii spottings are to be believed. Who knows.
Frankly, I doubt that THEO rumors will go away prior to ISTL’s release unless she steps out with someone new.
His prep for ISTL started in Sept 2014, that’s when he played the Wheatland festival;
http://www.celebitchy.com/385966/tom_hiddleston_performed_a_hank_williams_song_at_wheatland_music_festival/
Exactly re the whole “dating” comment, to alot of fans that equals a relationship. So denying dating would be correct if it was a casual arrangement. Tom’s denial was just more vague.
I don’t think Tom denied anything. He deflected by joking that friends can’t have dinner.
Agree that *not dating* doesn’t mean *not banging*.
I don’t think he is telling us the full story here but then again he has always been thirsty for attention so I’m not surprised.
I feel bad saying this but something about his story seems over dramatic to me. It must have sucked to lose your friend & your fiance. It just seems like he is promoting more drama…..His bff was so much older then him- I don’t know…..I’m sure they were really close it just struck me that instead of saying ‘friend’ he said ‘best friend’ and that he called their break-up a divorce when they weren’t married. I’m feeling pessimistic today. That does suck for him though.
I’m sorry, but if his friend was the only person in Boyd’s life who ever encouraged him to go after everything he wanted, that says volumes about Elizabeth’s esteem for and value of her relationship with Boyd. Shouldn’t one say that regularly to his/her fiance’?
Good riddance.
I think this adds to all that early talk of her being a snob. It was in direct counter to the many pr friendly outlets running stories of how she wanted to succeed on her own.
Deets on the snob talk?
Invader
It was lesser stories in the timeline of when she broke out pr mainstream. That she would live in a junky studio apartment without help from her family or sisters because she would support herself 100%.
When her attitude on scripts that even stars still get lash bak over. Showing up late and getting levels of treatment that if not for her name she’d be laughed out of back stages and sets. Along with being 1 of those that refused to admit her name got her any doors opened. This was all very minor stuff before that remake thriller movie of what was a continuous shot, but Olsen needed film breaks and cuts. The small bits she did and may not hae completed. The non disclosure agreements that were requested for working with her.
Not shocked that once the making it on her own stories hit big these stories fell away to calling her the new IT Girl.
To be fair she was raised in extrme wealth and maybe felt the ND’s were standard with minimal follow through expected of her because she was an Olsen.
That’s her ex boyfriend?? Talk about downgrading.
The guy is amazing in Narcos…I’m really looking forward for season2. He, Wagner Moura and Pedro Pascal are really playing some great dynamic there!
I’m not sure how to feel about the Elisabeth Olsen thing…I guess he was pointing more to the fact that two important things in his life happen on the same day but there might be some bitching too. It is strangely worded…But if she really dumped her fiancé over the phone doesn’t he have the right to do some small whining about it? If it was coming from a women would we also say “douche” (or some matching term)? The guy has feelings, maybe that’s a nice thing.
Agree.
I must have typed and deleted six comments by now on this whole thing – I just can’t figure out what in the eff is going on with these people. I get that life is messy sometimes, but there have been so many contradicting stories (OK granted, most were from tabloids, but at least some of those had to come from someone’s PR team, right?), that none of it really makes any sense any more. I think there is way more to the story than we know, and will probably ever know.
As I wrote above, one or two of the stories (USWeekly, in the beginning?) might have come from Tom/Lizzie’s PR as a controlled way of introducing their relationship to the public. But it’s my opinion that the Star/National Enquirer and other tabloid stories aren’t from them. Too contradictory and from magazines which blatently make things up for clicks. It makes zero sense for Lizzie to deny dating Tom and then agree to have stories about them breaking up in various different ways, in various different tabloids. I also don’t believe the Evans and Renner stories were planted by her for the simple fact that they all implicate her in cheating e.g. seeing Renner during AOU filming, in mid 2014, when she was engaged…? She’s not stupid so wouldn’t have put that implication out there imo.
I put this down to a mix of some PR, a lot of ‘fans’ trying to blow it up and even make up things (certain tumblr blogs love stirring the pot), and other gossip outlets capitalising on he attention they can get from it. But everyone’s become wary of PR so places a lot more at their door than is realistic I think. To the average fan and average person who doesn’t see all these gossip and overinvested tumblr blogs, this stuff is barely registering.
Even the US magazine stuff contradicts itself at times, doesn’t it? At this point, I only believe what comes from them directly – this interview, her quote to Refinery29, etc. Even then, I take what they say with a healthy does of skepticsm, since I truly think most celebs lie outright to the press to preserve some measure of a private life. I don’t think less of them for lying (or not telling the complete truth), I probably would too in their position.
I will say I thought the Enquirer was oddly specific about when she broke it off with Hiddles, even specifying a date – Nov 30th.
You sure are pushing hard against the PR stuff. That PR story was the only thing that was selling a craptastic film they worked on. There is weight to the idea of keeping speculation alive until they know what they are doing for the film. You shouldn’t just cast if off entirely. The timing on it has been obvious and shady.
Boyd’s PR people could have planted all those stories. They weren’t very flattering. Just putting that out there for the fun of it. 😊
Silence the infidel who would dare to put this on anyone other than Olsen! Get thee back to the veranda, Lilac!
lilac, you may just be on to something there.
neverland, regardless of what you think about the tabloid stories (whether they were fed by Olsen’s team or not) the outings in July served to get them both publicity. Tom who wouldn’t step out in public with JArthy (who was likely a gf) wouldn’t have deliberately gone to places where he’d be spotted and photographed with his RUMORED LOVER, unless he wanted to generate some internet chatter. That stark departure from his strategy of keeping his private life out of public view was a pretty obvious PR move.
@madly, I’m not ‘pushing hard’ against PR entirely. I actually said in a comment that the original USWeekly articles about them hooking up may have been planted to introduce a relationship. I just don’t believe that the ensuing articles all from different magazines and all saying contradictory things are all PR. There’s a difference. I’m not stupid, I know that people use magazines to sell a story. I just don’t believe either of their teams are realistically selling it in the way others insist the are.
@nutballs, again I said elsewhere that Im willing to believe the initial USWeekly article was planned, and that theatre/restaurant outing may have been a reaction they planned after some creeper fan sold images of them to the DM. Not contesting that PR strategies exist and they may have used them initially. The bits I do question however is everything not in USWeekly, and the Star etc articles recently about how they broke up, even though Lizzie already denied they were even dating. Like I said I think it’s a mix of their own strategy to maybe introduce a relationship (for whatever reason, real or publicity) but a lot of the latter stuff is imo(!!) outlets trying to get clicks from it all and doing the usual make-stuff-up. After all, those weird clickbait websites like kpopstarz have written up loads of recycled and contradictory news pieces about Tom and Lizzie because they know it gets them website traffic.
Like I said I know a lot of people have decided that all of the articles are PR plants, and good on them if that’s their view. I’m just suggesting my view which is that not everything published is part of a PR conspiracy – unfortunately some people seem to think every time Tom breathes, tweets or smiles it’s a conspiracy theory.
neverland, that’s certainly possible that it’s a mix. But I believe the industry insiders who say that IMAGE is everything to a celebrity. I think it’s naive to assume that what they do or say in public is just off-the-cuff or coincidental. Tom especially, seems hyperaware of managing how he is perceived when in public. Celebs pay their publicists good money to get their name out there and make them look as good as possible, or cause a bit of confusion or create distraction when they don’t want the truth to be known. Publicity and image management is extremely important to them.
Why not outright deny the rumors if they weren’t true? If THEO did begin an affair on set and continued seeing each other casually since then, why they wouldn’t just own up to it? There’s nothing wrong with two people taking a fancy to one another and testing the waters for a relationship. Even if it was casual and noncommittal, it could always be presented differently for the sake of image. It didn’t have to be made into the confusing mess that it became where there was speculation of her cheating her fiance or Tom putting the moves on another man’s woman or creating an image of Olsen chasing Tom’s conda around the planet like a desperate woman. A simple statement that she and Boyd broke up in Oct and that she’s gotten close to Hiddles while filming would have sufficed. Then the pap walks in July wouldn’t have been so odd — just two people who fancy each other spending time together.
People get together and break up all the time, nothing new under the sun. Was the secrecy and coyness about their relationship meant to draw more attention to them than if they had just come clean one way or another? I can’t help but think that’s why they were doing just enough to convince some people there was truth behind the rumors but not enough to convince everyone.
I feel for him. I don’t think she’s heartless by any means, just a little cold to not at least do it in person. I feel like if an actress was talking about her fiance doing this he would be burned at the stake though and sympathy would be pouring in without any second guesses.
I read it as two terrible occurrences happened coincidentally on the same day. However, if I were EO, I would feel guilt about that coincidence. Breaking up over the phone? Depends on the circumstances imo.
I agree with this. I think it was just two coincidental sucky things that happened on the same day. I think he was just mentioning this and not intending it to sound like that EO is a cold hearted woman.
+1
The quality of a person is judged by actions, not just words. Who knows why they broke up but she was a fiancé not a girlfriend, so first breaking up over the phone. Not cool. And lets say you didn’t know or you kinda knew… don’t you still support your ex-fiance. Its not like he said they had a horrible breakup. She couldn’t be too troubled bc she did it by the phone. But, I mean as friend you don’t call later and send condolences to you EX FIANCES friend, attend a service, act like a decent human being. Who does that. ITs not the not knowing that’s troubling, its the actions not taken after its in the NYTimes that your ex fiances friend died, maybe in the time you broke up. As for the Tom connection… sounds too close to not be some hint of hooking up but meh. Clearly she didn’t really care about her engagement lol. Tom was just trying to hook up.
I hear what you’re saying, Dara. If you’ve been dating someone for at least two years and you’re engaged to them, you shouldn’t be breaking up over the phone. My mind goes to a couple places on this: was she unable to get away for a couple of days to meet with him personally and break it off? Or was she on the brink of or already started an affair with Hiddles and wanted to quickly end her engagement to assuage any guilt over cheating?
Ahem, just pointing out that ‘dana’ and ‘Dara’ are two separate commenters.
Oh Dara dear, my contacts are failing me. You two looked and sounded alike!
Can’t believe that people are looking for excuses to make this looking good. You do not break up with the person you are engaged to via phone. Geez, I know we are living in a world full of technology and no one seems to care anymore about personal relationships but this guy proposed to her. She said yes. No matter what happened inbetween. Via phone? Low. And to me Hiddles was the reason which is just laughable. You do not break up with your fiance because of a guy you might have been in touch before but just have seen for a couple of weeks. Make it months. Even then. And even if there were on different continents…. couldn’t she keep her pants on for a personal goodbye? Very sad. I know I will get crucified for this but that is my view. As for Hiddles, seriously, I know that he is the shining prince for a lot of girls here, but the timing is just too clear. And I learned this: you do not hit on girls who are taken. Full stop. But karma is a b****. One day the same stuff will happen to him and then people will call his ex fiance as a ****** because she couldn’t wait and broke up with him via phone. Happened before to many other people.
We have no idea what actually happened here. We are only hearing his side of the story, and from that, he sounds like a whining baby. Elizabeth has never spoken about what happened. Something bout this guy is very insincere. If (and that’s a big if) she actually dumped him over the phone, she may have had a VERY good reason for doing so.
I don’t know if my comment got deleted, but according to Wikipedia, filming was between Oct-Dec. One of their citations said production was 40 days, ending on December 12, which means they must have started on November 2nd. So the read through, etc. must have been in late October. I don’t really think that’s enough time to really start a real affair, but there could have been some overlap, I guess? She must move fast though, lol.
Read up on Rodney’s comments regarding Tom’s five weeks in Nashville prior to filming. He said that Tom was rehearsing lines with his co-star as well as learning to sing Hank’s songs and running.
Rodney also said Tom is a terribly lonely young man. Why would a guy in the first glow of an affair come across (whether by words, actions, or general demeanor) as “terribly lonely” to someone he was living with and working closely with for 10 hours a day for 6 weeks? I can buy that some actors are terribly lonely and for all kinds of reasons. I can also buy that some actors have affairs with their costars. What I can’t buy is both at the same time in the same time frame. Either he was enjoying an affair with his attractive costar or he was terribly lonely – but not both at the same time. Either TH and EO were super-slick with their dalliances and Rodney read Tom all wrong, or nothing happened between them at all and Tom is indeed largely isolated and lonely.
@Sochan – that lonely young man comment from Rodney Crowell made me wonder too. How on earth is Tom romancing his costar while practicing singing 8 hrs a day then running then working on Hank’s character development then going to the actual shoot? Also Tom lived in Rodney’s house during the entire ISTL shoot. If him and Elizabeth we’re seeing each other then I don’t think Rodney would’ve nicknamed Tom, Sir Lonesome A Lot. He wouldn’t have mentioned Tom and Elizabeth seeing each other and going out but he definitely wouldn’t have called Tom a lonely young man either. And if her and Tom were going out with each other all the time after the shoot wrapped up each day, Rodney wouldn’t say he’s a lonely young man.
I just don’t know how Tom hid his affair with Elizabeth so well that the man who’s house he was living in thought he was the loneliest young man ever.
I can totally buy that someone would have an affair and be lonely at the same time. Affairs don’t satisfy the need for deep connection with another in a way that a committed relationship does — they’re exciting and feel good in the moment, but a letdown afterwards if you’re wanting a more substantial bond with another.
The point I’m making is that Lizzy was in Nashville rehearsing with Tom in October, prior to when filming started in early November. She could have been hanging around the studio while they were working on music for all we know. Whatever connection they had already may have sparked into a romance during that time, when apparently she was having second thoughts about her engagement.
@ Sochan “Rodney also said Tom is a terribly lonely young man”
He actually nicknamed him “Sir Lonesome a lot” which may mean something different altogether when taken in context rather than out. It may relate to the wording of the songs they were practising for instance. Because if he really thought Tom was a terribly lonely young man then it would be pretty cruel to come out with that comment or nickname.
@spidey, why would it be cruel if the nickname was accurate? They also seem close, so he probably has an idea on if Tom is lonely or not. Something about him seems pretty intuitive from what I read of the man.
Well if I thought someone was really lonely I wouldn’t rub their faces in it by using that sort of nickname.
I don’t think he’s rubbing it into Tom’s face. He could mean it affectionately, sometimes like my dad does to me when I’m going through stuff. It’s not meant to offend and there is a lot of love there when he does it. Kinda think something similar is happening there.
I understood the nickname “Sir Lonesome A Lot” as a reference to Tom’s aloneness, not his loneliness necessarily. Perhaps Rodney saw him retreating into his own company when he didn’t have to be with people. I’ve thought that Tom may not be a polar extrovert, but more middle of the road — someone who doesn’t mind being alone and may need it regularly to keep his sanity.
Months before the breakup CDAN ran a blind item and later reveal that Boyd had been cheating on Lizzy left and right while filming Narcos. So I doubt either were innocent in the situation. They are both young and maybe she just wasn’t ready for that kind of commitment when she is trying to get a solid movie career going. And he is still up and coming with some good roles ahead for him. Personally I don’t know a lot of women that could resist Hiddles dong.
Totally OT:
I like Tom – mostly as an actor, but sometimes as a person too, and I find him awfully handsome. But there’s just nothing about him that implies he would be awesome in the sack (or as you put it: “unable to resist”). I can see that in Ben Cumberbatch – who I don’t particularly like as a person, but who sends off great sexual energy in the sense that he comes across as someone who likes to please and won’t quit until he gets the job done. I don’t know — I guess 100 women can read one man in 100 different ways, but I see Tom as flirty and fun and a great conversationalist but I wouldn’t hold out for any particular excitement in the bedroom. He seems like he’d be aloof and not terribly affectionate.
And this is the nonsense that runs through my mind as I sit at at a coffee shop with too much time on my hands. 😅
@Sochan, during an Elle interview last year, BC gave a step by step description of his methods, which was not as titillating as he seemed to think it would be. Unless one is into a partner who believes he knows what a woman wants without actually listening to the woman herself and who is prone to pretty much immediate completion of the task.
I agree Sochan. I always thought Hiddleston lacks sex appeal.His fans on this site always say he was sexy in this or that but i don’t see it. He seems like a nice guy, an intelligent guy but i always think he seems a little bit goody too shoes and perhaps slightly boring.
@ Lilacflowers
I do remember that excruciatingly embarrassing interview thing. It was gross, over-the-top, and he came off like a 14-year old boy describing his journey to second base. But IIRC he was “channeling” Sherlock, as he was asked “how Sherlock would be sexually” or something. I also think he might have been drinking. It was too ridiculous for an intelligent man to be sober and talking about himself.
@ Leah
I don’t think he’s un-sexy. I think he’s appealing for sure. I’d probably date him at least to have good food and conversation with him! I just don’t think he comes across as being a lover that “most women can’t resist”. I don’t personally prefer a lover who is aloof and emotionally detached – which is how he strikes me. I like them warm and affectionate. So, Tom doesn’t come across as bed-able TO ME. I’m sure some women would love his type.
Well listen, all this speculation about whether Tom is good in bed is getting us nowhere. I volunteer to do some data gathering. You know, for science.
@Ennui – did the sign-up sheet not get passed to you when we first circulated the ‘for science’ schedule at the last meeting? It was on an official-looking clipboard and everything. I would have been first on the list, but I had to rummage around in my purse for my old-lady spectacles (the damage waivers and terms and conditions were very long and had some awfully fine print), and some other enterprising volunteer snatched it away from me.
@dara, no, no one told me about the sign-up sheet! I need to find that clipboard. I am an excellent scientist!
If this were Tumblr, I would now insert an on-point .gif of Matt Damon in the Martian proclaiming his intention to “science the sh#t out of this” and wish you luck in your endeavor.
Yeah, if she had a cheating boyfriend a thousand miles away and handsome, charming co-stat inviting her to a tryst, I think it would be very hard to say no to that.
Those blinds are fake, read the disclaimer on CDANs website.
@Sochan “there’s just nothing about him [Tom] that implies he would be awesome in the sack.” . . . ” I wouldn’t hold out for any particular excitement in the bedroom. He seems like he’d be aloof and not terribly affectionate.”
I find Tom to exude a good deal of sexual energy albeit subtle which is what I like. A lot of his sex appeal for me is the way he moves. He’s so agile and gentle, yet there is a tempered strength and confidence. Even people he’s worked with have noticed not just how fit his body is but how smooth and effortlessly he operates it. As Joanna Hogg said “He moves like a dream”. For me a lot of sex appeal is the way a man holds himself, the way he moves, how he wares his clothes, what he wares and whether he does all this with confidence and easy. To me Tom is a master at this. Not to say there aren’t times he’s looked frumpish (T-shirt, sweat pants) or the many times he’s been silly or dorky which may read as asexual.
As far as action in bed, I’ve always read him as someone who really wants to please a women and would do a lot of work to make sure she was hum..taken care of. Also, even though it was short, the sex scene in Crimson Peak showed me that he can definitely be Hot in bed.
As to being aloof and not terribly affectionate, there’s many videos of him being very touchy and huggy with friends, colleagues and fans. He’s usually accused of being too touchy & feely. In regards to how he might be with a girlfriend, all there is to go by is his relationship with Susannah. There are photos and footage of her sitting on his lap, and of them embracing and kissing, of him caressing her bare thighs with both hands while sitting together (she wore a short dress), and the usual pda’s in general. All of which they both look very happy and at easy with each other, nothing stuffy or aloof at all imo.
Well it’s heart-warming to see “homewrecker” as an equal-opportunity term applied against a man LOL.
But seriously, while it’s tacky to hit on someone who is in a relationship, the homewrecker is in fact the person who is in the relationship. The ‘outsider’ is merely a facilitator, or an escape-hatch, or distraction, or whatever…the person who wrecks the home is the one in it.
Im sure she would have still come across as a “bitch” even if she waited a week.
If you want out, then get out.
I think I read in an interview that Tom gave that filming for ISTL started early in October and ended on Dec. 13th. I do think it’s mean to break up with someone over the phone after knowing each other 2 years. I’d like to know what she did with the ring? Did she FedEx it back to him? lol. I also think she was the reason for him and Susannah breaking up. She appeared w/Tom at the War Horse premiere soon after their breakup. I think he had a fling, with EO, they did do that screen test together that same year and Susannah found out about their “chemistry” and kicked him to the curb, EO was his rebound. After the War Horse Premiere the last time they were photographed together was at that stupid Burberry Fashion show and with their work schedules being what they were at the time lost track of each other and he still had a crush on her via that mystery “be my baby” Valentine tweet from 2012 “she knows who she is” and his “I’m not telling who” when asked by an interviewer if you could read someone’s mind, who would it be? Shortly after that she met Boyd on their movie together and had a relationship until Tom saw his chance during ISTL. I still think Tom was the one who recommended her for the part of Audrey even though the director said he was the one who suggested her for the role. Tom probably even suggested she try out for Marvel as well that’s how she landed Scarlet Witch. Mighty funny how Benedict wound up part of that ensemble as well. Getting involved with the Trollsen’s – He’s had very poor judgment with picking girlfriend’s since his break-up with Susannah. Good luck with that Tom. Karma……
Wow, that’s…quite a creative piece of speculation. You should write fanfic.
Fanfic? Looking at the timelines everything fits. I’m glad that Boyd finally stated his side of the story, this was a long time coming. If this would have come out during the whole ISTL-TIFF promo it would have been interesting to see how both camps would have spun it. What happened to the quote from Star or National Enquirer that Tom called her as soon as he heard about the engagement falling apart? They can’t keep their stories straight.
Yeah really, the crazy tumbler crowd has arrived. It’s just as bad as those saying Ben was secretly dating sophie for 17 years. lol.
Ever thought of writing fiction?
Oh man I was hoping for more Boyd Holbrook gossip, but this is just sad :/
and another thing, when EO was on that James Corden show back in May promoting AOU talking about how she loves London and how it’s her new favorite city now and she would like to get a job there, she mentioned that encounter with Taylor Swift and she couldn’t remember the name of her favorite song….turns out EO was referring to “Wildest Dreams” which ironically in the video portrays and actress having an on-set affair with her tall, handsome co-star. “he’s so tall and handsome as hell, he so bad, but he does it so well….”
Go to you tube and listen to a song called “I Idolize You” by a band called Massive Ego.
I checked out that video it’s very Marilyn Manson and the guy wearing the bodysuit reminded me of that MTV video Josh Horowitz did with Tom and Jessica! Tumblr crazies rule! LOL
I wonder what Lainey thinks about all of this? Does anyone know?
No idea but did you see the one about The Other Guy’s fans trying to get that writer fired? That’s insane.
BC’s fandom has a lot of factions that are crazy in their different ways. The overly invested nannies who track down personal information and share it to police over people who are skeptics. or show up to his publict’s office with presents, or make cupcakes over anything he does.
Then you have those crazy anti-sophie faction who think they weren’t really married and they carry around a life-like doll.
I’m over here in my corner wondering what it is about that guy to inspire all that obsession? I had my fun when the sophie thing started because it was weird and horribly rolled out. But damn….
He is that odd looking/acting guy that everyone is convinced is the guy for them in his fandom. I was a BC fan until he became awkward and got with Sophie…it isn’t because he is with Sophie now (I am still a Fassy fan) but because his true sides I think came out and I was like meh, I’ll pass. How many would actually had been attracted to him had he been a garbage collector or an accountant though?
Good point. Being famous does make some odd ducks seem hot to some girls.
That trying to get the fan fiction guy fired is another level…
I think Tom probably has his crazies too who follow him around and make up stuff on the net.
Cupcakes? Otter flavored?
@ madly – Nooooooooooo surely not, wherever did you get that idea?
Lainey posted that she was into it when the UsWeekly reports of a hookup/ FWB situation came out in May. That was before the photos of the maybe- possibly-date in London came out, for which she only said something like ‘they look related in these pictures’.
Later she interviewed them both at TIFF and said they didn’t seem ‘together’ but they were both so lovey and professional and kind that they should be (reiterating that it might have been a hookup while filming casual thing).
I tried to add links earlier and got deleted? :/
I think the bigger question will be how will EO respond to this? It makes her look so bad.
Hopefully she will vanish in the galaxy and save us all from her dullness. Every time when she speaks I ask myself:
How the hell was she able to attend Tisch School?
I’m sure her name and some $ did the trick…
I’d dump this guy for Tom too, he seems a bit too emotional for me.
On the phone, no less.
Elizabeth Olsen and Tom Hiddleston are shady as hell. The truth always comes out.
Let us know when it does, will you?
So glad you’re back, Spidey. You were missed
Thank you Lilac, I was hovering unable to post but have got round that now. 🙂
i thought the thumbnail pic was of Jesse spencer from House and i was like well this is an odd story
I like him as actor and want him to have career and be noticed by famous movie makers .
But that dig at her was very low. Not good Boyd. Did she suppose to know? Should she stay out of pity for few more months? People dont break up out of nowhere. It means they were not happy anymore.
He looks like he is sad person. to be with.
Boyd Holbrook seems sooo sweet to me…When I watch his sex scenes I get emotional I swear.I know it sounds creepy.He is just my new crush LOL
Since we are throwing around theories: Olsen and Abraham could have had a fling. Abraham had a falling out with his then wife around the time of filming, and they are now divorced. Olsen denied dating Hiddleston. But she is seen publicly more affectionate with the director. Tom takes the heat while Abraham tells an interviewer this stuff upsets Tom (probably because he’s taking the heat for other people). All theories of course 😉
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😮 Ooooooo!!! Guuuurrrrlllll! That sounds WAY more juicy and scandalous than a couple of costars bumping uglies on set. That sounds like K-Stew and her Huntsman director level of scandalous. Probably more if it ended Abraham’s marriage and Elizabeth’s engagement. I didn’t think much of it then but during TIFF I did see a pic on Instagram of Tom, Elizabeth, and a third person who looked very cozy with Elizabeth but was cropped outta the pic leaving an afterparty at TIFF together. Tom was walking with his hands in his pockets and Elizabeth had her arm around the third person who also had their arm around her. When asked who the cropped out person with Elizabeth was, the person who took the pic said it was the guy who directed I Saw the Light. I’ll see if I can find the pic again and link it. I’m sure it’s buried under a bunch of TIFF stuff now but probably still there.
All theories of course 🤓
Portia, is this the one?
https://www.instagram.com/p/7vJcHdHVrJ/
Holy SH*T, this is juicy! I knew nothing about this — the director and his divorce, I mean, and corresponding with Olson and Boyd’s breakup. Yiiiiiikes.
@Dara – yup that’s the one! Haha nvm it doesn’t look that cozy. Maybe that’s why I never gave it a second thought even after reading the comments about them walking arm in arm.
Either way, the hand holding and this is way more physical touching than she’s ever shown with Tom (who she was supposed to be dating) outside of red carpet photo ops. All these tabloid articles could just be clever distractions to stop people from sniffing around where Olsen doesn’t want them to. If we want to fan the flames of Elizabeth Olsen with Marc Abraham theory, that is.
Or Abraham is old and frail and needed Elizabeth to hold his hand thru the crowd at High Rise premier and then later he needed to lean on her after having one too many drinks at the afterparty *shrugs*
@Portia, agreed. The rumor about EO and Abraham was just ridiculous enough that it tickled my fancy at the time, but I really don’t think there is any merit to it – especially since you can count me among the folks that believe without a doubt that EO was with Hiddles in Hawaii a mere few weeks ago.
@Dara – don’t know about the Hawaii sightings or the other London ones except for whatever I saw in the pap pics when they went out for dinner. If I find social media links while reading celeb gossip/ film gossip then it’s all good otherwise I don’t search specifically. It’s how I found the IG pic, someone posted a link to it in the comments on another celeb blog I read. With Tom dating, I figure things will come out sooner or later and then I can make my own guesstimations on what is what.
I’ve just always found it interesting that after Susannah, Tom tries so hard to dodge (never outright deny, only dodge) all notions of him dating much less having a girlfriend. To the point where the lady is insistent on hinting that there’s something but he dances in the other direction as much as he can.
I also find it interesting that it’s ALWAYS Elizabeth who is spotted in Tom’s area or where he’s working, and he’s never spotted in her area or where she’s working or even visiting. Wonder who’s pursuing who and exactly who is the seriously career minded.
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Really desperate ones. Occam’s razor.
Quote from Marc Abraham re the THEO rumours:
“There’s a scene in the movie with Hank that’s right out of that. I teased Tom one day when someone was writing about it. I said ‘Dude, I would pay people to write that I was having an affair with Elizabeth Olsen’ He said ‘Yeah, but you ain’t me.’ But I was just trying to keep him light so he didn’t worry about it.”
Only nothing was really said about it until months after the movie wrapped, so I’d believe it about as much as I’d believe the deflective handholding at TIFF.
She is cold, she says she wants to go hunting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwA0WT7rAtY
And not very supportive of Tom either, she said at TIFF she was not very impressed with his singing in ISTL:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up9mPbmrmoQ
I hope the link works
I didn’t realise that was her ex. He is much sexier than Hiddleston to be honest. Good actor too, was excellent on Narcos.
I agree. Boyd was so hot in “The Skelton Twins.” Hiddleston, like Cumberbatch, has an asexual quality.
I don’t think it’s an asexual quality rather than a quality of refinement.
I finally googled this Boyd (who I never heard of except in relation to Olsen). He’s from Kentucky! Love it.
I think Elizabeth Olsen is very ambitious, Boyd seems more low key. Perhaps someone like Tom Hiddleston suits her better. Both very ambitious actors. Funnily enough Boyd Holbrook is doing very well right now he could be the breakthrough actor of the 3 of them.
She is ambitious. And an arrogant snob who always has her arm on her hip even while sitting in interviews. Of course she’s ambitious. She has to take full-charge advantage of the special place that nepotism got her right smack in the eye of Hollywood, a place that she never would have gotten by herself with her lack of charisma and basic – but nothing special – acting skills.
Is this Boyd and Lizzie?
https://www.instagram.com/p/seF8LLISNC/
If so, I’m not sure if it adds anything interesting to this discussion, except apparently Lizzie was still fond enough of Boyd to go with him to Columbia in early September for the start of Narcos filming.
@DARA you are shipping THEO so hard right?
@Bususa – I’m not actually, but perhaps you were being sarcastic with your question and I just can’t read your tone. Just between us gossip junkies, I hope THEO fizzles and fades away – but that doesn’t mean I’m going to just pretend there is/was nothing going on with them at all.
My personal feeling is that their coupling falls somewhere in the ‘just friends’ or ‘casual FWB’ range of the relationship scale. If it were more than that, I really do think they would have made more of an effort to spend time together in 2015. There were times this year when neither was working and yet he was in London and she was in LA. My insistence that they are still somehow together, and recently, is based on social media sightings of them together that I have seen with my own eyes in the last month. Do I think Lizzie broke up with Boyd in 2014 so she could shag Hiddles with a clear conscience? *Shrug* Who knows? It just be a case of coincidental timing and we all are making assumptions.
You are right, @DARA, I was sarcastic.
Well you see the so called sightings of them were nothing more then fantasy and everybody knows that – apart from you and maybe couple of other people. You say you saw with your own eyes, but why no one but you ever saw this sighting tweets or anything and, which to me means that either you make up THINGS or… make up things. Don’t take it as offence, ok? Some THEO shippers done worse.
EO and TH were and are just friends, nothing more. There are no post TIFF sightings, no Hawaii, nothing. Everything was made up, actually as all other sightings without a photo proof. You simply believe everything that gossips say, and ready to swear It is true.
Hey Dara. Just to back you up a little I saw all of the Hawaii sightings tweets too. Screen caps were posted on tumblr with quite a bit of discussion. The girls seemed legit; in another words I believed they thought that’s who they saw. Agreed that without pics identity cannot be verified but they didn’t seem like trolls to me. Wow that seemed so long ago… I hope TH goes home for the holidays and is able to enjoy some nice quiet time with family.
I wouldn’t bother with Bususa. Me thinks she has the FirenBrenie (Happy Meerkat) about her.
She will not learn – her broken English and phrases always give her away. Yet she keeps coming back to harass THEO supporters and those who saw him in Hawaii with EO.
Ahh, I thought all of that sounded familiar. Sadly, I’ve realized that even if fans like her had the “proof” they so desperately crave, they would probably still find a way to deny, disprove, claim fakery and bully the original posters beyond all reason. It’s a well established pattern in Hiddleston’s fandom, and for other celebs as well.
@Beach girl I saw this alleged sightings and the screencaps too. They were posted from MoniqueDuBois85 on twitter. The account obviosly was not used for more than two years and later got deleted. Quite fishy if you ask me. The only legit sighting was from jamietangy or whatever her name was.
It’s amusing how confident Bususa is in her assertion that if she’s not given convincing evidence, then THEO couldn’t possibly be messing around.
It’s a big, wide world out there, girl. There’s sooo much going on that you aren’t privy to. And actors (yes, even Tom & Lizzy) do intentionally misrepresent the truth to keep their secrets.
I BELIEVE IN YOU, THEO!!!!
#TeamDara
@Nutty, you crack me up! And here I thought you were a Jarthy groupie for life.
But your point about convincing evidence is spot on. Even if a photo of THEO taking surfing lessons together on Waikiki beach surfaced tomorrow what difference would it make? It would hardly be a smoking gun that proved whether they were (or were not) not romantically involved. That’s all I’ve been trying to say, but apparently that has branded me a hardcore THEO shipper. So be it – it’s certainly been the most interesting thing we’ve had to gossip about in a while.
I thought this was a Macaulay Culkin story
HAHAHAHA!!!! I did too!
He does remind of of him, wow!
Joke! He is amazing in narcos!
Kind of off topic, but the other posts are closed.
On the ‘how many box-office disappointments before it affects their career’ front, to which we were subjecting ‘poor Tom’, have a look at the latest from his bro Hemsworth.
In the Heart of the Sea cost nearly twice as much to make as CP, and is on track to make 2 mil less on its opening weekend.
That’s unfortunate.
variety.com/2015/film/news/box-office-ron-howard-in-the-heart-of-the-sea-mockingjay-1201659486/
When Tom and Chris meets up for Thor 3, I am sure they are gonna have a long and serious chat about how tough the world is outside of marvel.
Not to forget Black Hat which also criticised Chris’s acting.
I cannot think of any of the main Marvel actors that have had successful movies (where they play the lead) outside of their Marvel ones. Other than RDJ with Sherlock Holmes.
I think the thing that franchises give these main actors like Hemsworth, Evans, etc. multiple chances to have a hit at the box office. Say, someone like Boyd Holbrook (since this post is about him) starred in this movie and it flopped…he would not get the multiple chances to be the star of a film like Chris Hemsworth will. And if this were an actress, no way would she get the multiple chances that Chris Hemsworth keeps getting. I don’t really think there is anything special about either Hemsworth brother, both of them lack on screen charisma even though off screen they seem like nice guys.
I’m not sure ANY other actor would get the chances CH has been getting! Rush wasn’t a total flop, but nowhere near the expected success. Then, as you say, there was Black Hat. I think he is cute and personable, but I am bemused at how much time/energy/money is being put into ‘making him happen’–up to and including the Sexiest Man of the Year title.
Regarding the success of other main Marvel actors, though–what about Ruffalo and ScarJo?
I agree with this. No actor has bumped from C-list to A-list due to their association with Marvel. They get a lot of chances because of the international exposure they get and I’m sure their salary demands can increase (Hems makes multi-mill for his flops, right?).
It’ll be interesting to see in another five years someone manages to change this fate for themselves.
@TotallyBiased. You bring up a good point about Ruffalo and ScarJo but I think their careers would go the way they are going right now whether they were in a Marvel movie or not. I kind of consider them supporting characters only because Ruffalo probably will not get a chance to headline his own Hulk movie and Marvel for some odd reason thinks Black Widow does not justify her own movie (which makes no sense to me…Lucy proved that Scar Jo can hold her own as the lead and in the box office).
I think Ruffalo will be the first Avenger to win an Oscar in the future.
RDJ, ScarJo and Sammy J already had established themselves in HW long before Marvel came along, so I don’t see Marvel as being a huge bump for them, with the notable exception of RDJ, who was lucky enough be there at the beginning of the franchise, having a 3-film deal for Ironman that was very popular and a business-savvy wife who scored a lucrative compensation package for him. I doubt any Marvel actor will ever get the incredible luck that RDJ had with Ironman. Now, the Marvel universe is so crowded, it’s hard for any of them to stand out in the same way.
Chris Pratt seems to do well for himself with Lego Movie and Jurassic World.
I keep forgetting Guardians of the Galaxy is Marvel. I wonder how/if they’ll blend the worlds in the plots for Guardians2 and Avengers 3&4.
I am TH fan and I ship THEO, or at least I have in the past. But by now the whole thing has just become too “muddy” and so long-winded, that I am actually starting too look forward to new rumors/sightings of TH with someone else.
You’ll see Lizzy with someone else before Tom. She was public with her romance with Boyd. Since breaking up with Susanna in 2011, Tom’s kept his lovers out of the spotlight.
Apparently, he makes an exception when his upcoming film/performance has Oscar buzz.
@Nutballs
Hahahaha Nutballs I love you…. You made my day with your comment. I bet all my money on Hiddles doing a Cumberbatch when he has to campaign. You all wait and see. Posing with his wifey and a lot of PDA. So much for being a private guy when he does not need the attention. I still like Hiddles but oh geez…. This stunt…..
I dont know…. I think Hiddles might be starting to understand the power of public coupling 😉 Being one half of a famous couple can raise someone´s profil without much work.
I would not be surprised if we are gonna see TH with some new in the not too distant future… or at least hear few rumors.
Is that what you tell yourself? I guess we’ll know soon enough.
Guest, if we see Tom campaign for an Oscar I do believe we’ll see a lady on his arm. He’s an ambitious company man and will do things BY THE BOOK.
What I don’t expect to see is an unintentional fertilization as we saw with Bendy. Tom is much too careful to let something like that happen.
ETA: if he does want to raise his profile by a public coupling, I hope he chooses someone better than an Olsen. Lizzy was a downgrade from the amazing Gwen Christie years ago. He needs to aim higher than the buxom ladies he’s been hooking up with on set the past few years. Chastain is still my favorite. They are beautiful together and fun to watch.
@nutballs
I didn’t mean a full Cumberbatch but like you said: He will pose, he will try to get the attention WITH a woman…. and I agree with you when it comes to Olsen. I mean seriously, getting a higher profile? With Olsen? Laughable. But Chastian… I love her. I adore her. Hell, I fancy her. And I am not gay haha. But nah, she deserves someone better. What about Vikander? Imagine Fassbender hitting Hiddleston HAH! That would be funny.
You know I like Vikander but I don’t see Tom with her at all. He seems to gravitate to woman with big personalities and strong opinions they’re not afraid to express. Alicia seems quieter to me and not as assertive. I’m ok with her and Fassy, though I seriously doubt that it’ll last through next year. Fassy seems to have an expiration date of <24 months with his relationships.
But do you really think that Olsen is someone like that, Nutballs? To me, she really seems dull and not really smart. Ambitious and cold. Yes. Jane might have trolled his fans, but you are not an executive at Warner if you are not smart. Susannah seemed to be really witty and straight forward. Olsen is just meh. That is the reason why I do not understand this pairing tbh. Would have never guessed that before.
Big personality wasn’t really the right word. What I meant was assertiveness and not being shy about expressing their opinion. With Kat & Lizzy, it comes off as brash and with Gwen and Susannah, as confidence. Just my take on each of them as I’ve watched their interviews and tried to get a read on their personalities. Frankly, they strike me as being like the women that he grew up with, as he has described.
I think Lizzy is bland as unbuttered toast, but she’s certainly assertive and I see why some people may think her a snob in the way she conducts herself.
True or not, he just brought himself down a hundred levels by openly speaking about a breakup and trashing his ex. She dodged a bullet.
Well he never talked about it before. May be he was asked and answered honestly. Way better than being Hiddles who is talking about hopefully being able to talk when there is something to write about and then doing a bora bora stunt hahaha and one year later another stunt while selling the “we have known each other for 4 years and are only friends” shit. Pffff…. You go Boyd. This whole Theo story stinks…..
I still have the mischievous thought that JA might just have turned up unannounced on Bora Bora given Tom’s left hand position in the one and only photo. Because he didn’t look comfortable with her at Wimbledon either.
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Huh. I think it was him that dodged the bullet.
Funny this THEO thing. They were seen out twice in London several months ago. Once a pic by a fan, one paparrazzi. Since then all we have had is unlovey dovey pics at film festivals and “stories” in less than trustworthy mags. At most of those have contradicted themselves, and each other.
Meanwhile THEO have spent most of the intervening time on different continents.
Ssshh! Don’t bring reality into speculation, conjecture, and unfounded judgments
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You are a wish person Spidey. It’s just that it’s soooo much fun….
Shhhhh, people are trying to apply Occam’s Razor on things they don’t have all the facts on. Quit raining on their parade.
What’s really apparent is the shifting stories even people who post here a lot do.
At the end of the day, no one really knows what is going on.
I personally think Tom has more of a social life than we know about, has been acting like a single guy who is not in a relationship this whole time, is affectionate with every woman he works with and hasn’t shown any extra anything to a woman people are supposing he has something with, and probably has been seeing other people in and around his whole supposed thing with EO, whatever it is. I also think his last true, loving relationship was with Susannah where he didn’t care if people saw him with her. I don’t think he puts so much stalk in online fans where he would hide a woman he actually loves. Which tells me everything about these women he’s linked to, but doesn’t claim publicly. If we didn’t have these stories in the media about these two, no one would have put them together. *all speculation from my part, of course*
I agree with most everything you said, madly, except for this part: “Which tells me everything about these women he’s linked to, but doesn’t claim publicly. ” What that tells me most about is not the women, but Tom. And much as I like the way he conducts himself in the public eye outside of a romantic relationship, what that tells me ain’t nothing good.
It’s very possible he’s a player and leads these women on. It’s also very possible that he’s upfront and not very interested in a relationship and these women are trying to pursue him to change his mind. I know a guy who says he doesn’t want to be in a relationship and there are women who bend over backwards inviting him to things, flirting with him, etc. They believe him when he says he has social anxiety. I know this guy, he has no social anxiety whatsoever. He’s just not that interested in them, but doesn’t want to come out and say it as he likes their attention and doesn’t want it to go away. Tom could very well be that kind of guy.
I just have a feeling he treats the women he loves differently than his casual relationships and hookups (like most men) which is why the notion that dear Lizzy broke his heart seems funny. And I don’t buy that he hides his relationships just because fans explode on twitter. He’s not celibate, just possibly not into relationships at the moment.
I just find the posters on here insisting that there is something going on between these two funny as we really don’t know. Maybe during filming, there was something, but after, it doesn’t seem like it. I’m not buying half baked sightings from twitter. That is the most unreliable source of info ever. Nor does a sighting here and there with wide gaps between constitute a long standing relationship between two people.
Of course, don’t know him from Adam and won’t ever know him so just all guesses here.
I believe him.
Occam’s Razor indeed. What “the simplest explanation” is, may be in the eye of the beholder.
For me, it is they had a fling and it ended her engagement. Stuff happens.
As for the “evidence” as to the current status being THEO photographed together or not, I think that is a weak argument. I remember hearing the same after JA at Wimbledon… being offered as proof there was nothing there. And then BOOM… Bora Bora.
The truth is, he is good at keeping his private life private. And apparently, at keeping us discussing him. Win win.
I have no idea what their status is currently. I think that is just as they want it. I don’t believe the public denials are necessarily the truth either. I don’t say that as a confirmation, but as reality. In the end… it will be what it will be.
Welcome back, Miss Melissa. I always enjoy reading your comments. They do seem to get a lot more chatter by keeping people wondering “are they or aren’t they” than if they just come out and state the fact one way or another.
This world is big enough (even with cell phones and social media) to keep a relationship out of sight if a celebrities want it that way.
You are right Nutballs, but that is the thing which is just annoying: he should stick to something and stop trying to make his fans look stupid. How can you pull off a stunt like that, don’t say anything at all during the months after that and then let your girlfriend or whatever she is called deny everything just to be seen together again (if it is true). Honestly, I hate these games. If you are a private person, be it. If not, then not. But do not play games. May be it was low from Boyd to say anything now but to me this whole THEO thing looks really shady and I really hope for Tom that it is worth it because what goes around comes around.
Guest, Tom said at TIFF that they first met 4 years before, were friends and that was all. He isn’t obliged to comment/confirm/deny everything that is written in the papers, true or otherwise.
How often were they actually seen together?
Spidey, Tom says a lot when it is convenient for him. 🙂 I honestly do not believe him when he says that he has known her for 4 years. Not really. Funny that people did not believe Cumberbatch when his best friend said that he has known Hunter for more than 10 years. These celebs can talk and talk. I honestly do not believe anything. But if people do, fair enough. We are living in a free world. He is not obliged but totally image addicted. So if he cares so much about his image, next time he should not say that he is a private guy and pull of a public stunt like he did in July. It doesn’t make sense to me. Same goes for Bendy and all other oh so poor celebs… Peace. 😀
Spidey, he’s not obligated, but he knows that people will talk more about him if he keeps them guessing than if he comes out and states the truth.
Once he agreed to do the pap walks in July, any pretense of desiring privacy regarding his love life looks disingenuous. He’ll put as much of it out there to accomplish his PR objective at the time.
Just because you haven’t seen THEO together looking loved up doesn’t mean nothing’s going on. How many pictures exist of Tom and Jane between June 2013 and June 2014? She was obviously still very much in his life a year after Wimbledon, but the public wasn’t privy to the evidence. Do you really think he’s spent most of past four years celibate?
Let’s be realistic about men and the priority they put on sex. About actors and the easy, non-nonsense sex that’s available to all of them. About two single people who are attracted to each other and want to have sex with each other — even if it’s casual, non-committed sex. Hooking up with co-stars and crew members on set is commonplace. Tom’s going to engage in it as much as any other actor is.
@Nutballs @dara
You are really arguing stubbornly.
And you believe everything is a rumor.
That makes you happy. SMH
I’m sure when ISTL end, the truth will out.
That who’s she dating.
Your face will break up like a glass.
@ guest,they certainly met 4 years ago in 2011
Let’s be clear about who said what: The following quotes are Lizzy’s:
“I mean, we definitely are friends and we’ve known each other for about four years.” When asked if she was dating Tom: “No. I mean people can think what they want to think.”
We’ve established that dating and messing around/hooking up are two totally different things. It’s also a well-known fact that actors lie. Lizzy seems perfectly fine with people thinking that she’s banging Tom, hence why there wasn’t a clear repudiation of the rumor.
To my knowledge, Tom didn’t address it at all. I recall him laughing it off and joking about friends not being able to have dinner. Hardly a denial; more of a deflection.
Just because you met someone four years ago doesn’t mean that you have known each other for four years. I met many people. But I would not consider them as my friends. And I totally agree with Nutballs. As usual.
LOL at “it’s all in the eye of the beholder”. How’s this for simplicity: If “fans” have previously tweeted aggressive messages to women you have dated, wouldn’t you keep any future relationships on lockdown? The whole “it’s all PR” angle is just another variation on denial. Better yet, it satisfies the idea that the public figure of your choice is playing games with his private life to keep you entertained (and in some cases, dangerously obsessed). Win win.
I feel funny about comments
Read the comments I realized this was a big win for PR the movie.
They know that a person who hunger and thirst for gossip.
PR professional, very intelligent.It is their job.
They know Tom is darilng on the Internet.
Of course, they use it to their advantage.
Tom and Liz are part of the marketing.
They are actors and businesses and brand of film.
I will not say that she dating someone,
Because it does not match the theo shipper imaginations.
but it certainly is not and never was Tom!
OK, random comment: does anyone else think that in that Man of the World cover photo Boyd looks like a young Harvey Keitel?
His face is narrower but yes, there is a resemblance. Actually, if Keitel and Fassy had a baby together, it would probably look like that.
Eh…I mean, that is a shitty blow to handle during a period of grief, but generally there are a lot of signs a relationship isn’t progressing how it should well before the breakup. My feeling is that neither is being completely honest about what went down toward the end, though her behavior seems more shifty. Staying with him when she was over it just because his friend died would have just made things messier in the end, IMO, but breaking up long term relationpship over the phone is somewhat harsh. Then again, I’ve never had a long distance relationship, so maybe that is how it has to be done?
Actually, neither is being dishonest either because neither one of them has given a reason why the relationship ended. The grand sum of public commentary by both of them is as follows: 1. a monthly print magazine released on January 2, 2015 identified him as “newly single” – that’s it, nothing more. Given the lead time necessary for copy in a monthly magazine and the fact that he is barely known, he would have told them that information probably late November, if not before; 2. She released a statement through her PR mid-January 2015 that the engagement was over but provided no explanation one way or another; 3. Now, more than a year after the breakup, he’s giving interviews saying she dumped him by telephone the day his friend died although he doesn’t state that she knew the friend died or was dying. But he provides no additional information about the reasons for the break-up. That’s it. There could be a host of reasons why that relationship failed and ended as it did but neither one of them has offered any reasons and there is no reason why they should.
haha yes i am who i am.
broken english? really? Who do you fool here? If i had such a broken english i wouldnt be able to work where i work.
And doesnt matter the logic, it doesnt fit your conspiracy and gossip theories, who needs it and real life when you cant gossip right?
Real life? Logic? From the person who thinks she knows everything about Tom and thinks she’s Tom’s neighbor and thinks they are going to fall in love? You send him twitter love letters calling him Mr. Pudding and saying you will be together soon – only soon is always getting pushed out on the calendar. First you were going to be together in January, now it’s the summer, next it will be Christmas 2016. You wouldn’t recognize real life if it slapped you.
I feel like I wandered into an alternate dimension. Is this from someplace else?
I think we’re seeing a Tumblr invasion on our sacred threads. Oy vey.
Just a thought – has Boyd got something new coming out anytime soon?
His IMDB page lists a bunch of stuff that is in post-production or waiting release.
Am I being cynical now?
Not at all.
Narcos just got a GG nom for best drama series.
There is a video posted on Jason Mitchell’s IG account of Tom and the boys in a kitchen. They’re trying to talk him into getting a tattoo. Short but funny. I’m completely unaware of how to post it here. Hopefully someone more skilled can get the link.
The Daily Mail is running with this story too.