John Legend beefs with Donald Trump Jr., calls Donald Trump Sr. a ‘racist’


Controversial opinion: I honestly think Chrissy Teigen needs to take two steps away from her social media accounts, because she has a hair-trigger temper and/or she’s just very, very thirsty. While Chrissy plucks my last nerve, I adore her husband, the Oscar-winner and Grammy-winner John Legend. He’s lovely. He seems calm, sedate, even-tempered and kind. He rarely makes news. But I guess Chrissy is rubbing off on him, either that or Legend has just had ENOUGH.

Following a month of general awfulness with and around Donald Trump, John Legend ended up getting into a Twitter beef with Trump’s son, Donald Jr. A brief summary of where we are with Trump and his racism: the guy is the go-to candidate for the KKK. He’s spent years refusing to rent to African-Americans. His attacks on Pres. Obama often veered to the worst racist tropes. His attacks on Hispanics, Muslims and Native Americans have been openly offensive and racist. He’s had black students ejected from his rallies. He’s condoned the beatings of Black Lives Matter activists. Basically, Trump is a racist pig. John Legend is not the first person to point that out, but you know it’s bad when even a calm, sedate dude like John Legend is getting into Twitter beefs with Donald Jr. Following the massive clusterwhoops that was Trump’s attempted rally in Chicago on Friday (which ended in violent chaos and/or a riot), this happened:

John Legend tells no lies. And in case you were wondering, Legend graduated from the University of Pennsylvania with a degree in English with an emphasis on African-American literature. Donald Jr. also went to Univ. of Pennsylvania, and Donald Sr. graduated from Wharton at UPenn. Anyway, who’s more in love with John Legend right now?


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  1. Ninks says:

    Has a person ever had a more appropriate last name than John Legend?

    • Soprana says:

      His real name is actually John Stephens. But he has MORE THAN EARNED the name Legend!

      • joan says:

        He’s great, but I don’t get the hostility to Chrissy. He chose her because she’s adorable, I’m sure.

        They’re a great couple and they both slam racism. Plus she loves food. What’s the problem? She’s funny and seems bright and has a lot more charisma than a lot of people she appears with on TV.

      • Soprana says:

        Agreed…I love Chrissy. She can share TMI, but she’s not Kardashian-level. I’d rather hear Chrissy blast trolls on Twitter than listen to Gisele pontificate about eating tree bark and purebred grass.

    • JenYfromTheBlok says:

      It just shows how important education is, particularly combined with talent and humanitarianism. I mean, that was the BOOM to the trump pile.

  2. Hudson Girl says:

    John Legend went to U Penn and graduated with honors?! I’m impressed.

    • Truthie says:

      Did not graduate with honors from Univ of Penn. just a regular graduate. Though he is probably doing a lot better than most Univ of Penn honors graduates.

      • Hudson Girl says:

        FYI: This is a source I trust.

        Legend, “Graduated magna cum laude from the University of Pennsylvania in 1999, with a degree in English, concentrating in African-American Literature and Culture.”

        So, Legend graduated with “great honor.”

      • Jay says:

        Magna cum laude =/= with honors…. Most schools have an honors program you need to be a part of to graduate “with honors.” Magna cum laude is just based on your GPA.

      • Breakfast Margaritas says:

        It’s exactly what it means. Cum Laude, Magna Cum Laude and Suma Cum Laude are honors based on cumulative GPA. You can take “honors” level courses and graduate with no honors whatsoever.

      • InsertNameHere says:

        “Honors” means different things at different universities, so this is essentially a semantics issue. Just say he graduated magna cum laude and call it good – Honors College kids get territorial about that mess. *cough cough*

  3. Vanessa says:

    John legend for president !!

  4. Jax says:

    Piece of trivia for you. John’s middle name is The.

  5. OriginallyBlue says:

    I love John. He is so smart and sensible. Even with this “beef” he remains calm. Hitting these idiots with straight facts and they have nothing to say.

  6. Lucy2 says:

    John is awesome, and calmly presented the facts. Better than I could do, someone the other night said to me “I don’t know why they are protesting him, I don’t think he is a racist” and all I could do was turned away and mentally scream.

    • Frankie says:

      Good for John. #truthhurtsDonald

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

      Had a friend tell me it’s between Trump and Sanders for her, could only sit in quiet shock.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        It’s understandable that people want an ‘outsider’ but this is like choosing between George Wallace and George McGovern. The only thing they have in common is the name George. Hope you can help her think it through.

      • Snazzy says:

        Between Trump and Sanders? I …. am ….so …. confused …..

      • Pinky says:

        Some people think this Trump thing is an act. Hint: It’s not an act!


      • Tiffany :) says:

        Pinky, I think that is what mystifies me. People think that he doesn’t REALLY believe all of the crap he says, but secretly he honestly thinks just like them.

        What we do actually know about his beliefs, is that he will say anything to appease the audience that is in front of him, even if it contradicts what he said 5 minutes earlier. He has no problem slandering minorities, asking his supporters to punch people in the face. Racially discriminating against minority apartment applicants.

        He has no integrity.

      • mayamae says:

        I don’t think anything Drumpf says is accidental. He speaks in dog whistles. In St Louis he called a Black man in a three piece suit a “thug”. He knows exactly how to appeal to the racists.

    • Alex says:

      I don’t think frankly stating a racist is a racist qualifies as beef. He stated an opinion and left it alone. Simple yet effective clap back.
      Another winner (not famous person) is Andrew Seidel who had a great clap back to Trump and a troll fan of his. Such a great moment.

      Trump is scary but I’m glad people are fighting back. The time to hope he goes away has LONG past

  7. NewWester says:

    Donald Trump is an idiot, but he at least speaks his mind and gives the public a chance to see how much of a ass he is. Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio seem to be flying under the radar more. Time the media focused more on what Cruz and Rubio really think. All three are equally worrisome if they ever make it to the White House

    • EM says:

      Frankly this election has made me very, very sad and angry. The public may be seeing that Trump is an ass but they are loving his message and tactics. I strongly think that Trump will win the general election and am not sure what will happen….

      • Tate says:

        We are screwed if he wins the general. I will do my part by voting.

      • Lozface says:

        As an outsider (Australian) looking in it scares me too! Most of us are in total shock that Trump has got this far, let alone could win the election.

        I can’t fathom how a person who has not ever been involved in politics can waltz straight in and become leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world. Does he even know how the system works?

        Here you have to become leader of your party to become our prime minister and that could be after 15+ years in parliament.

      • kanyekardashian says:

        Trump won’t win, he doesn’t have a chance. He can’t win against Hillary in a debate or with votes. He doesn’t have the black vote, the Latino vote, the Muslim vote, or the female vote – Hillary has all of those. What he does have – right now – is the angry white vote, which he won’t have come election time because he said just the other day, ‘When this is all over, you’ll see a different Donald Trump’, implying that once he wins the nomination, he’ll start pandering to all the minorities he’s offended and go centrist. Then his angry Nazi fans will get pi$$ed and drop off. It’ll be Hillary in a landslide, so don’t worry about Trump becoming president.

      • Cran says:

        @ Lozface

        There is much back story I was unaware of.

      • Cee says:

        If Teump wins he will be the least respected President in US history for us, the citizens of the world.

        Get people to VOTE, it’s the only way to assert your power as citizen and to maybe keep the Republicans out of the White House. None of the 3 candidates are harmless – Cruz makes my skin crawl.

      • ol cranky says:

        @kanyekardashian I’m afraid he may have a chance, especially with people (and not just republicans) saying they would never vote for Clinton under any circumstances because they have hated her for decades. I’d say a good 75% of the Sanders supporters I interact with have said they will abstain or vote for a 3rd party candidate if Sanders doesn’t get the nomination. I had one person say they wouldn’t be satisfied with a Democratic win that won’t give them everything that Bernie stands for and they do not want incremental gains. Seriously? First off, Sanders will not get everything he wants from Congress; secondly, it really ticks me off that people are willing to allow civil rights to be denied for people if Bernie’s not around to destroy wall street.

      • Katie says:

        At least Trump is transparent, you know what you’re getting with him. Hillary is dangerous. A liar, and being investigated at present. No one has ANY idea what we’d be getting if she got into office!!! She has been gunning for this every since hubby first got in the White House!! She is a scary, scary, woman.

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

      Tbh I’m tired of blaming the media and everyone else for people choosing not to educate themselves.

      All of those men are terrible, they all say terrible things and have ridiculous policy ideas and just 5 minutes of watching their campaign stops or reading their speeches tells you that. People choose not to educate themselves and think, “Well he’s not screaming like Trump so…”

      Low information voters is why we have a candidate like Trump thriving.

      • BB says:

        Plus, Trump brings the ratings. The media is a business, they know what sells and it’s people like Trump. I think Trump knows that all too well.

  8. SydneySnider says:

    And we think we have it bad here with our inept, bitchy and backstabbing pollies… I feel really sorry for Americans.

    • Kitten says:

      We’re just here to provide the rest of the world with political entertainment.

      • SydneySnider says:

        I was watching The Last Leg the other night. It’s a fun and irreverent talk show with a very interesting concept – filmed in England with an Australian comedian as host. I’m not sure if you guys can access it via iView – – but it’s worth a look if you can track it down. Anyway….they’ve been giving a lot of coverage (and really taking the piss!) to the coming election. One of the regulars also said how entertaining it all is. I still just shake my head…

      • Sixer says:

        Try to see it this way, Kitten: you’ve got a presidential candidate who talks about the size of his peen on TV. We have an actual elected Prime Minister who shagged a pig.

        None of it’s funny, I know. But we have to take the moments where we can, else we’d all have to seriously consider the point of going on. And we MUST go on!

      • Kitten says:

        The link wouldn’t work for me, Sydney 🙁

        @Sixer-oh totally, it’s either laugh or cry, right? I’m just trying to give in to the slapstick of it all. Otherwise, I get depressed as hell.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        OMG Sixer, that brought rueful happy tears to my eyes.

      • Sixer says:

        Kitten – everything is very scary, so yes, I do think we have to take a few seconds to laugh if we can. Just a few seconds, but it’s vital for our sanity.

        WATP – that was the point at which British politics jumped the shark, right?

      • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

        Oh Kitten, do you think it’s only in the US? In my country, a few years ago, people actually reelected for City Hall a guy who was in jail (yes, behind bars) for stealing money from City Hall… Of course, he couldn’t do his job, so another person from his team did it for him… A country where someone is in jail for embezzelment from City Hall funds is allowed to run for Mayor and gets elected.. it’s a joke..

      • SydneySnider says:

        Sorry, Kitten. I had it around the wrong way. Try this:

        They also have an app. As I said, I’m not sure if it’s available outside Australia, but you might also try:

        Good luck! 🇦🇺

      • Sixer says:

        For Kitten et al: this is the current running joke from The Last Leg on Trumpism. Bricking It For Canada – building a virtual wall to keep the hordes of US migrants out should Trump win the presidency:

        Sorry, Kitten! 92 million people have laid a brick! I am not guilty of so doing, I hasten to add.

        They also had one in which they fixed images of Trump, Cruz and Rubio behind the urinals in a pub loo and er… measured who peed how much on whom. We like to keep it classy!

      • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

        Sixer, I just clicked and put on another brick……. 🙂 Awesome…

        Try clicking several times rapidly.. LOL

      • SydneySnider says:

        Sixer: They really did “take the piss”… I love The Last Leg!

      • Jaded says:

        @Sixer – thanks for the link – as a Canadian horrified at the Gong Show shenanigans across our border, I will continue clicking and clicking and clicking!!!

      • lilacflowers says:

        @Nighty, getting elected while facing criminal charges or serving time while a mayor or being elected AFTER serving charges for fraud are not at all uncommon here. Boston had a mayor, James Michael Curley, who was originally elected to the board of alderman while in prison for a fraud conviction. He was later elected to Congress before being elected mayor. He was elected mayor four times, none of the terms sequential, with a four year stop off as governor AND the final election coming as he was under indictment for several counts of fraud, one of which saw him serve part of his final mayoral term in prison. Providence, RI had a mayor who was forced to resign after pleading “no contest” to assault charges (a very sordid story involving an estranged wife, another man, and use of his staff and the Providence police department to initiate and help cover up the assault), tried to run in the special election to replace himself while in prison, (the RI Supreme Court had to rule him ineligible – he probably would have won), ran for office once again and won, and won re-election twice by large margins, only to be brought up on federal charges of racketeering and fraud in “Operation Plunder Dome”, was convicted, served more time in prison. Rhode Island passed a state constitutional amendment called “The Buddy Amendment” which mandated several years pass after a felon finished a sentence before he/she could run for elective office. Buddy waited out his time, then debated running for Congress but decided instead to run again for mayor and lost for the first time to the democratic candidate by less than 3,000 votes and trouncing the Republican nominee by . He died last year so he won’t be running again. I’m sure other cities and states have similar stories.

      • lilacflowers says:

        @Sixer, I woke up the cat and my great-aunt playing with that brick thing! The cat is running around looking for the moose.

      • Sixer says:

        Does bricking it mean the same stateside as it does in the UK?

      • lilacflowers says:

        @Sixer, yes, it does. Although the less polite variation is more commonly used.

    • Lozface says:

      It actually makes our government look stable! For all our faults here, at least the PMs/leaders have been in politics and are experienced. I can’t fathom how someone can waltz in and become president without ever being in politics.

      And even our conservative leaders aren’t that ‘conservative’!

  9. LAK says:

    Is this the son that is a trophy hunter?

  10. tifzlan says:

    It truly boggles my mind when people say that those calling out the racists are the ones causing ~the racial divide~ like, in which galaxy do their minds operate?!

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

      The one where it’s really all Obama’s fault and the U.S. was a racial paradise before he was elected. In other words total fantasy land.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        It shows how severe the racism problem when the first “black” president has “mixed” (and I cringe using this language) parentage and himself holds a very centrist political philosophy. That was still enough to bring on all this reaction. It’s not like Stokely Carmichael is in the White House.

  11. Kitten says:

    That was awesome. Love me some John Legend. Some of my “friends” on social media are coming out as Trump supporters. It gives me major sads.

    • vauvert says:

      I had some “friends” like that who came out yelling ” murder” when the Planned Parenthood debacle happened. I quietly unfriendly them without comment and re-posted every pro PP item I could. There is no logical argument you can have with bigots, racists, etc.

      What really gets me is the fact that when his actions and own words make it clear the man is a racist from the top of his rabid wig to the bottom of his orange feet, instead of people at least having the guts to say “yes, he is a racist and I support him” try to turn it around and make it sound like his opponents are the ones creating the problem. Because racism doesn’t exist, you guys… We are creating the problem by talking about it. Ugh…..

      • Kitten says:

        Your last paragraph: this so much. That’s their go-to tactic. Also lol@ “rabid wig”.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Tried and true tactic. Hitler: “We can’t help but invade Austria because they provoked us.” “We can’t help but invade Czechoslovakia because they provoked us.” “We can’t help but invade Poland because they provoked us.” Yeah, right. His folks infiltrated Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland to create those so-called provocations. Trump has amazing instincts, because it’s hardly likely he knows history. This is where the parallels really start to feel as if they’re coming true.

      • lisa says:

        i am living for “the bottom of his orange feet”

        i bow to you

    • The Eternal Side-Eye says:

      This happened to me yesterday Kitten and I’m still in shock.

      It’s amazing how people spin such webs to convince themselves of something. She actually sounded disappointed when I said how much I hate the man (Trump).

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Me, too, Kitten, including my older brother (not to be confused with my adorable younger brother with whom I am very close). He’s a perfect Trump supporter. He’s Mr. Sound Bite. He blames all of his problems on everyone else. He think Trump will make America strong again. When I brought up things like banning Muslims from coming into the country, or saying Mexico was sending us all of their criminals, he says I’m “taking it out of context.” Ugh. I just can’t talk to him about it.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Dang. That’s hard.

      • Kitten says:

        Because adding context makes it better? In fact, the full context just makes it scarier because it clearly shows how batshit crazy Trump is. He is just ill-equipped on every level.

        My parents are Hillary supporters so not great either…my mom can’t vote because she’s a French citizen but my dad checked Hil for the primary. I don’t know….I miss the excitement of Obama’s campaign so much. I know people will say he was slick and it was all smoke and mirrors but…

      • Marty says:

        Luckily me and my immediate family are all on the same page when it comes to Trump, but we still get into some heated arguments with other family members. Please keep in mind that my family members are black/Latino which just makes it SO much worse.

  12. GoodNamesAllTaken says:

    I love that he stayed calm and reasonable. He’s a lovely man. And Trump is a racist, trying to make racism great again. Oh, sorry, I mean America.

    • Kitten says:

      His son is even more of a toolshed than I thought.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        The acorn and all that…

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Pree-cisely. This family confirms “you’ve got to be taught” (re: Rodgers and Hammerstein) and that it’s not just OLD white guys, unfortunately. The racism has to die, not only a certain generation.

    • Bettyrose says:

      Ahh…The days before unions, birth control, civil rights, feminism…working class white men had no competition for grueling labor jobs to toil in until their early deaths, building wealth for rich white men. Who wouldn’t want to bring those days back?

    • Sixer says:

      I saw it yesterday and loved it that he stayed calm and reasonable AND implacably oppositional. He was giving no quarter. I could only aspire to those levels of self control.

  13. Nancy says:

    Tell it John. Not only is Trump an annoying idiot. the man is thrice married and the former host of a reality show of course before HE got fired. The audacity of him making fun of anyone……John could give him a lesson on class. Trump’s son is as arrogant, if possible, as his father. Nobody makes more jokes or ludicrous comments about people born outside of the United States, yet Ivanka is one of his baby mamas and who knows where the current wife is from. His theories don’t apply to him. Heard Marla Maples was on DWTS this season. Another one of his trophy wives gone astray.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      All true, but maybe we should let drop the term “baby mama,” esp. as Ivanka was his wife of many years. The current wife is from Slovenia.

      • Boxy Lady says:

        @Nancy & @Who Ivanka is Donald Trump’s daughter. Ivana was his wife from Czechoslovakia.

        ETA Sorry Mayamae your comment hadn’t come up yet when I started typing. Didn’t mean to pile on. 🙂

    • mayamae says:

      Please tell me you mean Ivana. Ivanka is his daughter.

      Melania “I did it the right way” Trump is from Slovenia.

      • Nancy says:

        No I thought Ivanka was his wife. I didn’t even know she existed until that reality show of his. Never saw it. Yes, I realize Ivana was his wife, but made an error. To reiterate my above comment, he just can’t stand by his words. Almost everything he said or did is documented on some radio or television show to substantiate his lies. He went after Jeb Bush’s wife born in Mexico while he is married to some woman from another country. God help us if this man makes it to the White House. I never dreamed it could be possible, but also never thought he’d run for office. His thing is winning, no matter what the competition is. Still have stay with Hillary. The only hope there is for me.

      • mayamae says:

        Oh I agree 100%. And he did say he would date Ivanka if she wasn’t his daughter. Which …….. yuck.

  14. Insomniac says:

    I think I laughed for five minutes straight at the “John Legend is uneducated”/”Went to the same college as the Trumps, actually” exchange.

    I wish I could be surprised by the number of people on my Facebook feed who had nothing to say when Trump was having black kids beaten and thrown out of his rallies but are suddenly whining and sobbing about free speech and mean protesters after Chicago. My unfriending finger is getting a callus.

    • swak says:

      Were there any major problems before the one in St. Louis? I don’t remember reading about any if there were. If not, I find it interesting that all of the sudden these problems pop up where the Black Lives Matter movement originated. And by that I mean, I wonder if Trump wasn’t behind stirring the pot. I don’t follow Trump because I would never vote for him. Can anyone enlighten me more?

      • mayamae says:

        @Swak, it’s no coincidence. Chicago was the only rally in which people were not screened prior to entering. Trump’s people always carefully screen and refuse entry to anyone not turned out like a proper Trump fan. So this time they did not. Then they waited until the place was packed and then lit the fuse. Trump made sure to stir everyone up first by calling the protestors “thugs”.

        On her Friday night show, Rachel Maddow called the Trump campaign out as deliberately inciting the riot. It was a beautiful thing. She showed clip after clip of the orangutan encouraging his fans to beat up the protestors. Chris Mathews also challenged Trump saying the country is angry because they don’t have jobs. Chris asked him – if you understand that, then why did you yell at the protestor you were ejecting to get a job?

      • swak says:

        @mayamae, thanks. Thought St. Louis was before Chicago, so could have been wrong on that. I just know it my SIL posted a story on the problem in St. Louis on FB and I read it and found it interesting that this is just now happening and in St. Louis of all places because of BLM.

      • Mayamae says:

        Yes St Louis was first and where he called the protestors thugs. Things got heated. But it was followed by letting protestors in deliberately in Chicago, waiting until tension was high, then cancelling. That’s when all hell broke lose. Then he lied and told them the police advised cancellation.

      • lilacflowers says:

        There has been violence against protesters at Trump rallies prior to St. Louis. A man is under arrest for punching a protester at a rally in North Carolina earlier in the week and other people experienced violence last month at other rallies, just not to this extent.

      • Trashaddict says:

        Let the pot be stirred, those of us in Chicago who see Trump for what he is and are not fooled, will not take this laying down. This man is trying to buy his way to power and has failed to disavow himself of racist supporters. If you fail to protest this man, you are acquiescing to him.

    • Jwoolman says:

      I think of the three University grads, John might be the only one who took Logic. Or who passed the course at least.

    • imqrious2 says:

      @mayame, do you mean the same Chris Matthews who took “donations” for his wife’s political campaign before interviewing guests on his show?

      I’m no Trump supporter, believe me…frankly, I can’t stand any of them, on either side, but don’t believe that the liberal press OR the conservative press are fair/balanced for the other sides.

      • mayamae says:

        I don’t need the media to regurgitate an opinion for me. Trump speaks for himself and often. He reveals his lies, racism, bigotry, elitism, misogyny, and fascist beliefs every time he opens his mouth and bloviates.

      • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

        bloviates? What does that mean? (sorry for asking but as non-native english speaker, I don’t know that word)

      • Harry Lime says:

        Bloviate means to talk a lot about a subject without really saying anything meaningful. Another way to say it is that someone is full of hot air.

  15. JenB says:

    Perfectly played John!
    I believe that ultimately common sense will prevail in the general election. I like that President Obama is waiting to endorse the nominee. (Not picking a side yet.) His voice will be powerful. The Republican Party is going to implode.

  16. darkdove says:

    There is an episode of the Simpsons where they say Trump became president of the USA but he was so bad he ended up getting the country in to debt with other countries if he were to run the country like he has some of his less successful business he would bankrupt the USA.

    • Liane says:

      Oh my! You’re right! I forgot all about that episode. Oh wow. What if it comes true?

  17. lila fowler says:

    That twitter exchange was awesome.

  18. Dangles says:

    Walll Street Hillary’s gaffe at Nancy Reagan’s funeral was a bigger story than this.

  19. Snowflake says:

    That link John legend provided really shows how racist Trump SR is.

  20. The Eternal Side-Eye says:

    Sigh, I’m nearly at the point where I almost feel like this country deserves the havoc Donald will unleash on it. Clearly the system is very broken and all of his little Nazi saluting fans won’t go quietly into that good night if he loses.

    Feels like we’re getting closer and closer to something terrible the closer we get to that deadline.

    Oh also: F Trump and 😍 John Legend.

    Don’t let the cute face fool you Kaiser, he doesn’t let nonsense fly and the recent protester issues with Trump have made a lot of black celebs angry and speak out recently.

    • Kitten says:

      I totally feel you on that–there’s a part of me that wants Trump to run this country into the ground just so I can say “told you so”. Thing is, his supporters have so much blind allegiance that they’d just make more excuses for his incompetence. Still, after 8 years of listening to people perpetuate lies and falsehoods about Pres Obama and blame him for every misstep this country has ever made, there’s a relief in not having to defend my choice anymore. Now I get to be on the other side.

      Not saying I want Trump to get the presidency, just trying to find a silver lining…

      • EM says:

        I agree with you both but then there’s the potential havoc and persecution. If he is this blatant before getting into power what will he do to those that he dislikes afterwards? For goodness sake, not even Hitler was this vocal before becoming a dictator.

        I have friends that will not vote for Clinton even if it means voting for Trump. And their reasoning is that if Trump is elected, Congress & the Courts will prevent him from doing anything to crazy. Not likely.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        It would be fun to say ” I told you so”, but for my minority friends, they might not have the freedom to say that after he is elected. And the press might not be able to say that, because he wants to change laws that allow you to sue the press.

      • Trashaddict says:

        EM and TIffany have it right. This is not an “oh well, he got elected” scenario. This is how people like Hitler start. And I find it frightening.

    • Marty says:

      One of the problems is that it’s not that we haven’t had horribly racist leaders/political figures before, but it’s 2016. You can’t expect to go after different minority groups with offensive after offensive remarks and just expect them to smile and say thank you. This ain’t the ‘good ole days’ as much as Trump would like it to be. This is the ‘talk s**t get hit’ days. Chicago as well as Anaheim were good examples of that.

  21. SusanneToo says:

    I’m watching Face the Nation right now. It’s unbelievable, the sh1t coming out of Trump’s mouth. The most disgusting, oozing pustule on the rump of American politics. His supporters must be in the grip of some mass hysteria.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Mass hysteria — that is it! This is why everyone else who feels outside the grip of mass hysteria feels frightened and troubled.

      For me the question is when he will be brought up on charges of hate speech and incitement to riot. If the justice system doesn’t understand the limits of the Constitutional right to free speech, and Trump can use the police forces to his own advantage, the problem is even more serious.

    • BNA Fn says:

      I was wondering when was the main stream press was going to bring up all the scandal that is out there for many years about Donald T. They never broached the scandal that is all around Trump. They treated him with kid gloves. If Hillary sneeze they say she just gave the country the flu. That John Legend tweet with the attached about DOJ was referring to the C that was marked on applcations for blacks trying to rent a apartment in a Trump building. The “C” means color people/Black that they would not rent to. The man is a racist., Donald and his followers are the bottom of the barrel and it’s sad to see so many people drinking his koolaid.

      DT and his followers remind me of Jim Jones who had hundreds of followers drank the koolaid and died following this crazy man. IMO, I believe something bad will happen before this election because of DT and his hateful words. But, he will deny all and blame someone else for his hate filled rants.

  22. Bobafelty says:

    Trumps father was arrested during a kkk march decades ago, since it devolved into assaulting a group of communist protesters (pre ww2). Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

  23. John Legend is so cute 😻

  24. anne_000 says:

    There were news stories out yesterday showing a screen capture of DT, Jr retweeting an alleged white supremacist’s tweet which falsely labeled a Drumpf supporter doing a Heil Hitler salute as in actuality a particular Bernie supporter, who in turn, tweeted a photo of herself proving that she wasn’t the one in the Heil Hitler photo. Jr deleted his tweet, but the screen capture lives on.

    Drumpf’s own twitter account retweets white supremacists and when asked about why it does so, proclaimed ignorance of the tweeter. Same as when asked about whether he’d disavow David Duke and hate groups, specifically the KKK. He proclaimed ignorance of them, then blamed his earpiece. Then he waited for a day or two until he said he disavowed them. Why the wait? To let his true stance sink in with a certain crowd and get their support?

    There was a news blurb out last weekend in which a white supremacist radio host said he had an interview with DT Jr. The latter denied it, but then again, the Drumpf campaign gave this same radio host a media pass to one of the rallies and gave him VIP parking privileges.

    That oath Drumpf had his audience do, the one that was photographed looking as if his supporters were doing a Heil Hitler salute, was said to be similar to what the Nazis would do in exacting oaths of loyalty from their people.

    There’s a video of Drumpf at a rally referring to President Obama as ‘the President who happens to be African-American.’ Why make this particular distinction? Why can’t he just say ‘the President’ period? Because he’s playing into the mindset of his supporters who dislike the President for being Black and when they look at PBO they think ‘that Black guy, dammit he’s President, isn’t that a shame and taint on the Oval Office?’

  25. Ginger says:

    This whole election year is really bringing the ugly truth out of the closet and into the light of day as far as how some folks really feel about the racial divide, etc. I’m completely shocked and disgusted at the racist violence. I’m someone who in the past has never posted my political opinions on Facebook. However, this year I am doing so freely because I cannot stand how some of Trump’s supporters think it’s perfectly okay to act like little Fascist Nazis. And just like pre World War II when folks were sounding the alarm bells at Hitler’s rise to power, I’m going to be outspoken about how I feel about what’s happening. I really do feel that it’s that serious. I’m glad folks like John Legend are speaking out. I’m a Bernie fan but if the the vote comes down to Trump and Clinton. I’m voting for Clinton. Which I’m really not all that happy about to be honest but anything to keep that Bully Trump from being elected.

  26. word says:

    Even if Trump doesn’t win, and let’s hope he doesn’t…the people who voted for HIM are still going to be out there. What are we supposed to do with them? They have always been out there, but more silent. Trump gave these motherf*ckers a voice and I don’t see them backing down, even if he loses. It’s going to be scary, it already is. America you are screwed. Anyways, I hope this mess causes Trump to lose a lot of business. We all know better now right?

    • Lilacflowers says:

      Well, if he stands by his promise to pay the legal fees of all his followers who attack protesters at his rallies, he will be filing for bankruptcy again very soon

  27. Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

    All this denial and debate just reminds of :
    “First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Socialist.
    Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
    Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a Jew.
    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

    There are other versions, but the meaning is always the same…

  28. mayamae says:

    I don’t watch the Daily Show, but apparently they called out all of Trump’s lying claims. For instance, Trump Wines states on their website that they are not owned or associated with Donald J Trump (after he states he owns it 100% with no outstanding loans). His airline failed, his magazine failed, his stakes literally sold none, his water was tap water he slapped his name on. Lie lie lie. And his fans don’t care.

    My fervent hope is that when all of this is over and Drumpf loses, he will have permanently alienated all the powerful people he pals around with, and he will be persona non grata.

    My secondary wish is the Republican Party, as we know it, will be forced to address their racist and misogynistic segments.

    • Hollz says:

      I don’t see them saying they aren’t associated with Donald J on their website. It’d be a rather strange claim, considering that his son Eric is the president of Trump Wines.
      (Not saying he isn’t a lier with his pants on fire, just that in this case it’s more of a stretch of the truth than an out and out lie)

  29. minx says:

    On a different topic…I think Chrissy Teigen is both thirsty AND has a hair trigger temper.

    I’m surprised someone close to her hasn’t suggested she stay off social media for awhile..or maybe they have and she doesn’t listen.

    There are always going to be idiots on Twitter and I don’t know why she irritates herself by reading that stuff.

  30. BobaFelt says:

    Spot on with Chrissy getting to a point of overexposed. She is getting into a lot of Twitter drama, and while I’m usually on her side, she could maybe step back from it once in a while. So much thirst.

  31. Dangles says:

    I’m no Trump fan but at least he’s raised the issue of the devastating effect that free trade agreements have had on working class jobs. However ordinary Americans aren’t entirely blameless. They care more about buying stuff made by cheap overseas labour than they do about protecting blue collar American jobs. Personally I don’t see this election changing anything. Trump and Wall Street Hillary will just serve up more of the same and even if Sanders means what he says congress wouldn’t allow him to pass anything that puts the interests of ordinary Americans ahead of the interests of big business. No wonder so many people don’t bother voting. You guys are screwed.

    • lilacflowers says:

      Countless politicians, back to Ross Perot, have raised that issue. Trump has brought nothing new or innovative to any discussion.

      • Dangles says:

        Others may have raised it but Trump seems to have struck a chord with a critical mass of people on this issue in ways that others haven’t been able to.

      • Sixer says:

        The problem with railing over US (and UK, and any western economy) jobs offshoring is that the time for a solution has long passed. Trump cannot repatriate jobs and, even if he could, what would be the point? Those jobs will be lost to automation within a decade or so regardless of whether they are situated in the US or in China or in India. Trump is hinting at a promised land for his supporters that will never exist. He knows this perfectly well. And that’s probably the most offensive thing about him. He knows it’s all Emperor’s New Clothes. But he also knows the people who support him DON’T know that.

        The smart conversation is what are the jobs for the future? How do we spread less work around more people? How will we divide up resources in a world with little work? And the chance of the Orange One ever tackling that conversation is zero.

        The mark of the fascist is to channel inchoate rage. And that is Trump’s USP. The only one.

      • Dangles says:

        @Sixer: Yeah, fair points.

  32. kanyekardashian says:

    I worked in the Office of Student Conduct at U of P when Trump Jr. went there. He was a complete asshole. He was in the ZBT fraternity (Zillions, Billions, Trillions) all made up of rich offspring. Trump Jr. got away with murder because his father practically owns Wharton. In addition to being a stuck up shithead, Trumps’s mother Ivana would always send him care packages to our office, which was right next to the mailroom. I contacted her office a bunch of times and told them they had the wrong office, but she kept on sending stuff. Needless to say, our whole office just started keeping everything she sent and all the men in my life had very expensive sweaters under the Christmas tree for a few years.

    • Teebee says:

      Bravo. Kanyekardashian drops mic*…

    • Snowflake says:

      Yeah those trump kids are the definition of entitled white privilege. Thanks for the story, interesting.

    • eat my shorts says:

      Talk about shitty people….double standard here. You talk down about a guy you hardly know and then you steal gifts that are sent to him mistakenly to your office. That doesn’t make you a better person. Confessions, confessions, confessions. The wonderful world of the internet right.

  33. Dangles says:

    “Trump = end of the GOP. The party’s bench is beyond ‘thin’ to ‘non-existent’. After Trump is who … ? Cruz, a caricature of a human being? Rubio? Where do they get these people? Out of a police lineup?”


  34. Magnoliarose says:

    It’s not surprising Trump is the way he is. His own father was arrested at a KKK rally in Queens when he was 21. There were conflicting reports as to whether he was wearing a white hood or not but he was clearly a strong sympathizer. I can’t imagine he suddenly became a civil rights activist and preached tolerance and compassion to his children.
    Trump is a lying snake oil salesman and he’s being called out finally. He is a racist national embarrassment and his fascist rhetoric is disgusting.

    In other news…I love John Legend for speaking up and hope others follow. Chrissy does work my last remaining nerve sometimes but I think they balance each other. Kind of like the smart guy with his kooky but lovable wife. She’s harmless but seriously needs a sabbatical away from social media.

  35. N says:

    John is right Trump IS racist, but he and his wife is thirst for attention!!!

  36. serena says:

    What a man, I adore him even more now!