Johnny Depp wants a restraining order against Amber Heard too, you guys

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Johnny Depp and Amber Heard’s lawyers were in court on Friday and there’s a mountain of bulls—t to parse and debate because of it. It doesn’t help that TMZ feels some sort of deep, spiritual connection to Laura Wasser, Depp’s lawyer, and they’ll publish her version of events with no questions asked. The basic gist of Friday’s appearance is that there was one week to go before Depp and Heard’s June 17th hearing to determine whether Amber’s restraining order against Depp should be extended. The June 10th appearance was just the lawyers jockeying for position, making pre-hearing motions and requests from the judge. Here are some of the arguments, highlights and bullet points from Friday.

Depp’s lawyer wants to depose the hell out of Amber. Laura Wasser requested that the judge order Amber to make herself available immediately for a deposition, and Wasser wants to depose one of Amber’s witnesses, her friend Raquel Pennington. Both Amber and Raquel claim that don’t have the free time to be deposed, and both are out of town right now. Amber is actually going to be out of the country for three days next week for a Justice League fitting in London. The judge denied Laura Wasser’s request because lawyers are supposed to submit their request for a deposition 10 days in advance and Wasser was trying to schedule it last-minute. Wasser believes that if she’s not allowed to depose Raquel and Amber before the June 17th hearing, then they shouldn’t be allowed to testify. Raquel will be deposed in the end though – just one day before the June 17th hearing.

Requests for documentation. Wasser also asked the court to order Amber to produce any and all documentation of the alleged abuse she suffered at the hands of Depp. Wasser wants everything (emails, letters, texts, phone records) from December 15th, 2015 to May 2016. Amber’s lawyers say that Amber has not been given enough time to sort through everything but she’ll get back to everybody. Which I’m sure is a legal strategy.

Wasser’s pissed about Amber’s media strategy. TMZ was of course all over this, saying that Wasser is really pissed that Team Amber is “spending countless hours trashing Johnny Depp in the media.” Which is sort of funny coming from TMZ, for the love of God, since they’ve been working overtime to discredit Amber by any means necessary.

A possible settlement? The court was made aware that the two sides have come together to discuss a possible settlement. Apparently, Depp’s team made her an offer: $50,000 a month (which is what she asked for) for eight months during the divorce proceedings, plus “a mutual restraining order.” As in, Depp would give Amber the money but only if he could save face and pretend that he’s afraid that Amber will stalk and harass him. Team Amber says no deal, and she’s fully prepared to go to court and tell her story and win a permanent restraining order against Depp. Team Depp still insists that Amber’s ultimate motivation is money, and they’re making a big deal out of the fact that Amber’s lawyers approached Depp’s business manager to quietly settle this thing before she went to court. I honestly don’t think Team Depp’s argument makes much sense.

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  1. Lucy says:

    I’m sorry but I still find something fishy or off about Amber, there’s just something about her throwing me off

    • Lucy says:

      That’s not to say that I don’t think Depp was a complete drunk/drugged out abusive douche BUT there’s still something “off” to me and I can’t really pinpoint it

      • Original T.C. says:

        1) I think people want to “like” DV victims or want them likeable and Amber like Rihanna is not your average “sweet” victim. They are who they are and unapologetically so. *Most* perfect victims exist only on TV or in fictional books.

        2) I think you have to realize that she is not a regular person accusing a regular guy of DV. This is Hollyweird where MEN rule. No matter if they are child molesters, rapists, wifebeaters etc. They always are forgiven or even apologized for. The victims are the ones left shamed, barred from getting work, seen as the trouble makers.

        She can’t approach this in the regular way or risk being eaten alive and her reputation made into ‘Persona Nor Grata’. She or her lawyers are approaching this from a “survive in Hollywood after this case” which requires smart strategy.

        3) I too wouldn’t want Amber to turn over everything to Team Depp or be deposed ahead of time so they can come up with excuses, pay off witnesses to lie and use his almost billion dollar resources to get out of this by trashing the victim and her “bisexual” evilness. Her lawyers are not stupid.

        4) She might seem like a dumb blonde but she is also the daughter of a lawyer which I’m sure influenced her on how to keep evidence and not be another victim of our court system which unfortunately happens to a lot of DV victims. So again in this way she is staying a step ahead and not doing the “normal” stuff in court that people expect which usuallys doesn’t help victims win.

      • yellowrocket says:

        @Sloaney her whole campaign? Really? Was being hit in the face with an iPhone part of her campaign? I believe she wants her abuser named and held accountable for his actions.

        I honestly do not think that she is lying and I hate what’s going on in the media right now. It’s the first time I realised that men really do rule the world. People are trying to justify this act of violence by any means possible.

      • Crumpet says:

        Original T.C. – her father is a general contractor, not a lawyer.

      • ronaldinhio says:

        @Lucy

        What a really odd thing for you to say.
        Most of my clients, on face value, would seem unsavoury as they have had any number of abusive situations to get through and it seems to harden them and diminish them a little in terms of humanity on each occasion.

        There seems to be nothing at all off or fishy in Heard’s responses.
        She wanted to escape a relationship from an abusive addict. She tried to do so quietly and he sought to abuse her further in the press. How dare she leave him, eh?
        Nothing she has stated seems overblown or overly emotional. Factual and depressingly normal in dealings with an entitled, addicted abuser.

        Vaguely slurring her seems fishy and off.

      • noway says:

        I think part of what is “off” with Amber is a lot of the stuff we get from the lawyers and the gossip media is positioning by someone from both camps. I agree the whole things seems a bit weird and this is why. However, both seem to want to wage it in the media, but eventually they will have to do this in court too, and hopefully then a judge can sort through the bull.

    • yellowrocket says:

      Hi Lucy, that is because that is what johnny team want you to feel. That’s why they are throwing whatever they can think of at amber to see what sticks. They want to plant even just the seed of doubt and they use laura wasser and tmz to do it.

      Be smarter than they think you are try and see their media strategy for what it is.

      • SloaneY says:

        You do realize that her entire campaign has been a media strategy and has been actively avoiding court involvement? Both sides can be fishy. Unless you’re personally involved, you don’t really know, do you?

      • Lucy says:

        I think that’s where I’m torn Sloane, on one hand I can believe her allegations but on the other I find it “off” that she won’t get the court involved, and especially now when the details about her avoiding the deposition on the 10th because she’s busy, but she was originally free to meet for a sit down talk to hash out finances. I think to me it seems like this is more of a PR strategy than a “fear for my life situation.” Like AH and team hated the negative PR she got during the marriage and then when she filed for divorce and they’re just out to rectify her image. I think this is where she looses a lot of people, if she kept all this info and let it come out in court people would be more with her, but leaking texts and photos to people makes her seem like she’s all about PR and image and it further pushes the narrative that she wants money

      • Liv says:

        I agree with you. She might be a victim of abuse – I mean Depp seems to be a mess for several years – but I never liked her and I find her fishy too. If he abused her he has to be punished, but I still think it’s about money and fame for her.

        Oh and I totally think that it makes sense….if she wants to get as much money as possible she would bring the media in to blackmail him.

        Again, if he abused her, which is believable at the moment, he has to be punished and should get treatment. Two different shoes in my opinion.

      • Kitten says:

        If it was “totally about money” don’t you think that it would make more financial sense for her to stay married to him?

      • Esti says:

        Lucy: as a lawyer, I can tell you there is nothing unusual or remotely suspicious about being available for off the record discussions with the other side about finances while at the same time objecting to your client being deposed on short notice.

        Depositions are something ALL clients are prepared for carefully–not because they have something to hide, but because it’s important they refamiliarize themselves with all of the relevant information (often involving reviewing their old emails and other documents, among other things) and are taught how to answer questions (not coached on the substance of the answers, but on how to only answer what’s been asked, not get upset if the other lawyer is deliberately trying to provoke, etc.).

        If anything, I find it suspicious that Depp’s lawyer served the deposition request so late in the game. They must have known from back at the very first hearing that they would want to depose Amber, so why wait until past the required notice period to make the request?

      • Truthie says:

        I am not team Johnny nor team Amber, I think permanent restraining orders for both sides is the appropriate thing to do. And Depp should be prosecuted for assault if the evidence is there. There is a lot more abuse than just physical! If these two are gasoline and fire, both should be restrained from each other. For me, a restraining order for Amber is not a quid pro quo move. There were plenty of stories before their marriage that she was quite bad for him – she did not deserve abuse (!) not even once – but if the stories of her taunts are true, a restraining order should end that. Let’s keep the gasoline away from the matches.

      • Algybear says:

        @Truthie – Very well put.

      • K2 says:

        @Truthie – a restraining order would imply they were as bad as one another. That’s why his team are seeking one, to undermine his being the abuser. Why should she take responsibility for his choice to assault her? Why is she “gasoline” when he is the one choosing to substance abuse? I’m sorry but that is victim blaming, because you are pinning his behaviour on hers. No.

      • MC2 says:

        @Truthie- I agree with what K2 said.
        You don’t just get a restraining order because you don’t want the person around you or they bother you- the court imposes a restraining order based on a threat to one person by another person. And you have to show evidence of that. Amber showed evidence of why Johnny is a threat to her & the court imposed a restraining order on him.

    • NeNe says:

      I agree with you. I can’t put my finger on it, but there is something very ‘weird’ about her.

      • Lucy says:

        To me it’s not her so much as this whole situation I guess. I really try not to let my bias cloud my judgement, because I’ve always disliked AH but I just can’t gte on-board with her 100%

      • ronaldinhio says:

        You are looking for a perfect victim

        This is always used to slur victims of domestic and sexual abuse

      • detritus says:

        Unfortunately It’s not just people you like that get abused.

        One of the hardest lessons for me was that the never-says-anything-wrong charmer, the popular one, is usually the worst. The two abusers I know personally convinced everyone around them that the victim was a) crazy and b) the aggressor c) lying and did it to themselves.

        One is a handsome, beefy women’s personal trainer. The other is finishing his residency in women’s medicine. Neither of them look like abusers from the outside and no one wanted to believe either of my friends. They probably wouldn’t have believed the bruises either. It’s scary how the same narrative is used as ‘proof’ or support for having doubts. It’s damaging. That quote posted from Lundy Bamford’s book days ago is true and perfect.

        “It is not possible to be truly balanced in one’s views of an abuser and an abused woman… “neutrality” actually serves the interest of the perpetrator much more than those of the victim and so is not neutral. Although an abuser prefers to have you wholeheartedly on his side, he will settle contentedly for your decision to take a middle stance. To him, that means you see the couple’s problems as partly her fault and partly his fault, which means it isn’t abuse.”

    • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

      I believe he hit her while drunk. Never the less, she should have settled it in court right away, not in the press or instagram..

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        If you review the earlier stories, you will see that her lawyers did offer to settle it quietly for the same amount Depp is offering now, but Depp refused and said she was only out for money.

        It’s thought her team released further evidence of abuse to counter his team’s in-the-press charges of blackmail. She engaged a lawyer to sue for defamation on that one, as she was accused in the press but not in court of the crime of blackmail.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        It doesn’t matter if he was drunk when he hit her, it matters that he hit her.

      • MCraw says:

        You all are assuming she had a choice. If it was all about the money, she would have kept shut, let the evidence speak for itself in court, secure as much money through the system and never work again. I don’t think this is just about her money, but her career and livelihood after this. He is butchering her in the press. Why not ask if HE was so innocent, why go to the press against her? Why not let HIS evidence of her lying and blackmailing be his entire defense in court? He has crucified her in the court of public opinion as soon as she filed. She stayed quiet until she couldn’t take it anymore. He’s trying to annihilate her and any career she could possibly have. I think she wants to continue working in Hollywood, and if she does, she has to play the game toe to toe with him. It’s another form of abuse of power for him against her. Fuck him. He deserves everything coming at him. I’m tired of the suspicions always around victims when he LOOKS a drugged out mess and has been for a while. It’s not hard to believe he’s beating while high.

      • Tracy says:

        It could be the “upfront” conditions are the same, but the actual amount of what she was/is asking for a final divorce settlement wasn’t included in that letter. That is going to be what the real negotiations are about.

      • SloaneY says:

        But why would he not settle? The money is a drop in the bucket for him. Why would he refuse to settle and instead let his name be dragged through the mud? He’s always been extremely private. I just think there’s way more to this than meets the eye. I don’t think it’s a case of he’s just so dominant and narcissistic that we won’t give in. If he was so dominant and controlling, why would he, at 2 different times, let her best friends live on their property next door? Don’t abusers usually isolate the victim? Why, if she is afraid for her life, not wanting to get this over with in court? Why has she not filed a police report? Why is she staying on his property? Why is she selling things to the media and not keeping it for the courts?
        There are just too many flags for me to just believe her with no questions asked. I’ve never been a fan of either of theirs. I don’t think he’s a saint by any stretch of the imagination. But I think there’s holes in her story.

      • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

        Who are, I’m not excusing him. It’s been highly discussed how people change behaviours when drunk or on drugs. If she married him, it’s probably because he seem sweet and caring, and then he changed after marriage, especially when drunk.
        He seems rather destructive to me.
        All I say is that she has the proofs, the pics, the witnessess, just put him behind bars..

      • Tracy says:

        @MCraw She actually fired the first shot in the press, not Depp. True, she was getting very negative attention because of the timing and the impression she was a gold digger. But that wasn’t coming from his team, it was coming from the public. None of his friends said anything until after the restraining order.

        Anyways, I hope she does get enough out of this to live comfortably without needing to work. The sad truth is that after this is over she likely won’t have much of a career left, regardless of how she played it. Not fair, but that’s likely what will end up happening.

      • Naya says:

        @Tracey

        Johnny fired the first shots. That “negative attention” was being intentionally stirred up by his PR team. Why do you think that within hours of the divorce news, multiple outlets ran sourced stories about 1) how close Johnny was with his mother 2) how Amber tried to push his mum out of his life 3) how his dearly departed mum tried to warn him that Amber was gold digging and using him for her career and 4) how much the rest of his family hated Amber.

        Ambers side didn’t emerge until a few days later after the news of restraining order broke. By that point she had no choice but to make it clear that her divorce filing was linked to a violent incident and not his mother’s death. But of course once that was out JohnnysN crisis team went into their homophobic line of defence. Now we know the reason they were working hard to paint her female friends as illicit lovers is because her witnesses are female. And on and on….

        Amber has been on the PR defensive from day 1. Johnnys side is running the most vicious campaign I have seen since Mel tried to silence Oksana.

      • Wren says:

        I was under the impression that Amber doesn’t have much of a social media presence.

        Regardless, I do love how it’s totally ALL HER FAULT that the media is involved and continues to be involved. Team Depp would NEVER engage with the press to discredit her in public, they are waiting for the court ruling on the matter, and until then they will maintain a dignified silence. Of course, this whole drama is her fault anyway, because there’s something shady about her. Domestic violence victims, TRUE victims, always press charges and resolve the issue in court. They’re also always lovely, likable people who you could never imagine so much as returning a library book late. There’s never conflicting emotions involved, and everyone knows that abusers are always terrible and never charming or deserving of affection at any time. They also never apologize and try to get the victim to come back, to believe it won’t happen again. They are thuggish oafs that anyone could spot in a crowd, so it’s her fault for getting involved with him. I mean, she must have known! Otherwise it’s just not REAL, you know?

      • Kitten says:

        @Sloaney- “why would he not settle?”

        Because he’s arrogant, prideful and entitled.
        Because he’s always gotten his way.
        Because in the past, he’s always been able to control Amber.

        Now the tables are turned and he feels powerless and out of control.
        Now he will fight, just like he fought Amber behind closed doors every time she got out of line.
        He will not allow her to make a fool out of him.
        He won’t give her one red cent. This “b*tch” won’t get the best of him.

      • Tracy says:

        @Naya: People had been saying and thinking that since she and Depp got together. The impression that the general public had of her was not something that popped out of thin air the moment she filed for divorce. You can’t really put that one on Team Depp. Classic mid-life crisis dude leaves his partner for a young hottie who is only with him for his $$ and influence is pretty much how their relationship was viewed from day one. I’m not saying that’s fair, but that is the reality she’s dealing with.

      • LAK says:

        I would love to live in the kind of utopian world where people will settle immediately their reputations are at stake instead of dragging it out in order to do more damage to their victims because they’d rather burn the house down than give in.

        I’d love to live in a world where people can see clearly through the fog of PR. Indirect and direct.

        JD’s team started a chinese whispers style campaign when it emerged that Amber had filed for divorce. Within hours we knew about this previously private man’s dead mother, how she didn’t like Amber. Ditto his kids. Who knew his mother was ill in all these months and years? Let the details of her filings turn into the demands of a gold digger. Trust me, in gold digger school, Amber wouldn’t get through the gates for what she asked of a man worth $400M.

        And so effective was that chinese whisper campaign that people don’t realise it and think JD’s team only reacted AFTER she filed the restraining order.

        At that point, they stopped chinese whispering and made direct attacks. Lawyer put out a statement, his exes put out statements, his friends put out statements or articles.

        The point of PR is primarily to change perception. Whether or not you believe that Amber is lying or manipulative, why is it that JD’s team isn’t directly denying her claims. They are all simply deflecting either by calling Amber manipulative and gold digging OR in they are saying they don’t recognise the man described by Amber. That’s not an outright denial, but it sows a seed of doubt in the veracity of Amber’s claims and that’s how JD’s team is fighting back. And it’s been wildly successful because Amber isn’t a beloved celebrity unlike JD.

        And having sown the seeds of doubt, they can call her every name publicly and be supported by the public and media because she doesn’t deserve our support. Her story sounds fishy. She doesn’t fit the hollywood version of the perfect victim. She challenges ‘normal’societal way of thinking. As such she’s a deviant. The public has ran with it all.

        And despite being called the worst actress most of the public have come across, she’s simultaneously a brilliant actress who is able (or not) to hoodwink everyone to receive a multi-million dollar settlement. SMH

      • Ennie says:

        I think the Tiffany store pictures that were maliciously published off time was the first public attack on Amber, and the fires were shot by JD’s team. Then the articles on her mother after the divorce went public. She was being seen as a gold digger without a heart and then she dropped the iPhone pics.
        I think he should give her what she wants, shut up and go to rehab. She is ultimately doing him a favor by forcing his real self to be seen by the public.He is in a road to self destruction, surrounded by enablers.

      • mmm says:

        @tracey. Depp’s camp started all by planting false pics of -Amber Heard -allegedly- coming out of Tiffany the same day their divorce was announced. Pictures that were really from April, appeared in all the media because her face was normal, unmarked. They knew about the incident that triggered the divorce so they were playing the public to believe “but she looked normal in the picture the same day she filed for the divorce, she didn’t have any bruises” in advance

        The person who think that picture wasn’t planted by Johnny’s PR to prevent the already brewing news that Amber could apply for a restraining order, is defintively too naive

      • bellebeesting says:

        @who are these…. I think you may be incorrect about depp now offering what she asked for in the beginning. His offer limited the number of months she would receive the monthly amount she was requesting. Regardless of the circumstances it is not likely she would receive permanent alimony.

    • cindy says:

      The “something fishy” is part is coming from the fact that you don’t like her. You don’t like Amber, you do like Johnny Depp, and wish that he had not committed DV. It disturbs you and your mind keeps trying to find ways to make it not so, instead of just dealing with something that is difficult but true. Not sure how old you are, but you can rail against this all you want. Eventually your mind will turn the “something fishy” into enough bs to satisfy yourself that he didn’t do it, if that is what you choose to do. He still did it. And you know it. That’s why you keep coming on sites like this one to try to troll.

      • Almondjoy says:

        +1 Cindy you should say that again and then a few more times.

      • Kitten says:

        That’s it, Cindy. In a nutshell, that is it.

      • Wren says:

        Exactly, and Team Depp is capitalizing on that.

        I don’t like Amber, and I like Depp. Well, used to like him, that ship has not only sailed but been subsequently lost at sea. But I don’t for one second think there’s anything fishy about her or the situation. In fact it seems quite straightforward, simple even. They can both suck, you know, and yet everything can still have happened just as Amber says. His team are trying like hell to muddy the waters because what else is there to do? They have no real defense and it’s becoming painfully obvious.

      • Guesto says:

        Thank you, Cindy, for putting the ‘fishy’ well and truly to bed.

        I’m astonished at this stage that Amber is still being seen as the ‘fishy’ one. Surely if anything is ‘fishy’, it’s the fact that despite Team Depp’s relentless Smear& Distract campaign, there’s still not been one single hint from his lawyer that the DV charge is untrue.

        That’s the really stinking fishy.

      • Snowflake says:

        I think a lot of people see her as an opportunist/gold digger. So in their mind, she’s not as worthy of being seen as a victim. Kind like how strippers and prostitues are more likely to be abused. People feel like they are using their sexuality for money, so they are less likely to be seen as a victim. And in some way, they “deserve” it. They are not seen as innocent so somehow they must have started it, participated, etc. Not that anyone is going to admit that.

      • Carol says:

        @Cindy Unless you were there or actually know these people you don’t really know do you? I tend to believe their marriage was a disaster and that it was violent, but I don’t know for sure what transpired. I have always liked AH, so my opinion isnt driven by my dislike of her. I completely understand why people believe Amber was a victim of DV, I tend to think that to, but I guess I’m reacting to how people who have never met them say they KNOW what happened during their relationship, whether its pro-Amber or pro-johnny.

      • AnnaKist says:

        Brava, Cindy. Brava, Kitten. Brava, Wren.

      • Lucy says:

        But the thing is I DO believe her claims but at the same time something about her, or about how this whole thing is being drawn out in the media, is not sitting straight with me

      • Kitten says:

        @Carol- of course nobody knows what goes on behind closed doors in a celebrity marriage but we’re here on a gossip site talking about it anyway. Do we really need to preface every single comment with “well I don’t know for certain but…”?

        Everyone here is just commenting based on the evidence that’s been presented thus far. To most of us, that evidence clearly supports Amber’s claims of abuse.
        The world of celeb gossip is basically a popularity contest with people believing the worst about the celebs they hate and righteously defending the ones they love. I happen to think that the seriousness of an issue like domestic violence should transcend that, but it’s become very clear to me that this isn’t the case here.

      • cindy says:

        @Carol- I think you are trolling. The evidence that Depp beat the crap out of AH is crystal clear. The only two reasons I can think of for defending him are 1. paid by his team to plant stuff 2. fans who can’t let him go. Thats it. Now, as far as the psychology behind why you can’t let the image of him go….who knows. The people inside his circle who rely on him for money/career, that is pretty straight forward. They are acting in their own self interest and aren’t about to bite the hand that feeds them. Paid trolls, same thing. Fans who can’t let go, but gain nothing personal by coming to his defense….its some kind of weakness inside that makes it difficult/impossible to believe things that are unpleasant. The more horrific the truth, the more you dig in. Nobody on here will change your mind, no matter how much you pose these “questions” that you really don’t want answers to.

      • cindy says:

        @Lucy-are you looking for absolution for liking Johnny Depp, even after he beat the living crap out of AH? Fine, you still like him.

      • K2 says:

        “The only two reasons I can think of for defending him are 1. paid by his team to plant stuff 2. fans who can’t let him go. Thats it.”

        Sadly, I think there is a 3), and it’s that we all inhabit a misogynist, patriarchal world which finds it very hard to accept that a “good guy” can beat up a woman; insists that women lie about all forms of abuse with real regularity; and which which eagerly laps up a host of nastily sexist stereotypes about her to support those tropes.

      • GingerNYC says:

        YES! The stupid is strong on this thread.

      • I Choose Me says:

        EXACTLY!

    • Mrs. Welen-Melon says:

      Lucy, is it that AH seems to have been opportunistic in marrying a much older man with serious problems?

      We don’t know her so we can’t know if she was stupid enough to think she could fix him or evil enough to plot a giant pay day. We just don’t know.

      Either scenario doesn’t negate that AH was abused.

      • here's Wilson says:

        ‘We don’t know her so we can’t know if she was stupid enough to think she could fix him’

        Being involved in a violent domestic relationship does not indicate that one is ‘stupid’ …I’m assuming your intent was good in posting this, but that comment is far from the mark. ..

        Many people in these types of relationships are codependent, which is a classified disorder that requires treatment to overcome. ..codependency is an outcome of childhood trauma and not in anyway indicative of a person’s intelligence

      • Kosmos says:

        All in all, I think it was crazy that these two married so soon. They could have waited a much longer time before marriage. I was pretty surprised that it happened so soon. Maybe he wanted to snag her so she wouldn’t stray, but it backfired on him. Maybe she wanted to marry to ensure her fortune, I don’t know, but it was a very bad choice….

      • LAK says:

        Kosmos, they dated since 2012. How much longer than 3yrs did they need for this not to be a hasty wedding?

    • Crackkin says:

      This is perfect victim syndrome.
      You are falling for it.

    • Eleonor says:

      According to what we know Amber wanted to end this out of court, BUT Team Deep was soo clever that started a PR campain against her after she, rightfully, filed for divorce.
      She had to fight back, if their strategy was a mess, and turned against Deep it’s not her fault. Hell nothing was her fault.
      I think team Deep must be desperate and they’re trying for desperate mesure, to contain this mess.
      I have to admit when I read about Deep asking for a restraining order I thought: “his team must be as high as him”.

    • Flowerchild says:

      Good evening shills up early I see 😀

  2. Char says:

    It’s times like this that I remember how much I hate TMZ. I usually only get my celebrity gossip from celebitchy, but when big stories are happening I usually end up on TMZ, since they update so frequently. But they disgust me with this story & it reminds me of why I originally decided to stop visiting their site. When Michael Jackson’s daughter was having some personal problems after her dad passed (& I believe she even attempted suicide?) TMZ’s story was that Michael’s family said she was just being dramatic. A teenager who is going through grief & probably depression & you go with “she’s being dramatic?” I didn’t go back to their website for a very long time at that point & I won’t be going back now after seeing how they twist DV stories because they are stuck up Johnny Depp’s a**.

    • Cricket says:

      I totally agree about TMZ. They disgust me as well every time there is a death, etc.. they always have such personal information on their site for all the world to see. At a time of such tragedy, shouldn’t celebrities or in the very least their families be entitled to some privacy? Michael Jackson, Heath Ledge, PSH, Prince.. the list is long..

    • Snazzy says:

      I actually stopped going there once I had discovered CB. I much prefer the coverage here. I find TMZ too sleazy

  3. roxane says:

    Oh please stop with the “something fishy”, ” something off”, if you have no arguments. We’re talking about domestic violence.

    • NeNe says:

      Perhaps! Nothing has been proved yet

      • Abbott says:

        Photos, witnesses, bruises… Exactly what kind of proof do you need?

      • Kitten says:

        It’s unreal, Abbott. It just blows my mind that after all the proof she’s provided, that’s STILL not enough for some people.

      • Charlottecharlotte says:

        Team Depp have to make sure they shill their wares on every gossip site going. Makes me even more certain he’s guilty as sh*t.

      • wendywoo says:

        I heard this argument today in screenwriting class when the Woody Allen scene from “Bananas” was played where he said he is studying perversion and is currently up to “child molestation”. “Oooooooooh” rippled through the room. “Well, nothing has been proven” was the teacher’s response. I gave him the look I’m currently giving you.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Nothing will ever be proved to people who refuse to see what is right in front of their face because they prefer to side with the abuser.

      • ronaldinhio says:

        The majority of domestic abuse isn’t proved except when the victim is murdered – which is very often
        Ditto the majority of domestic abusers are never prosecuted. Not because they aren’t vile hideous people but because it is hard to prove when it is one person’s work against another even when the other has bruises clumps of hair missing strangulation marks etc.

        A huge number of survivors of domestic abuse just want to be alive safe and free from their abusers.
        Don’t judge them for that or call bullshit on their lived experiences simply because you like an actor

    • Kym says:

      Thank you, Roxane.

    • helena says:

      agreed. she’s been injured, there’s a proof. I don’t care if she’s not likeable and he used to be an object of women’s affection….she was hit, he hit her… basta!

    • Crumpet says:

      Thank you too Roxane. This stuff is making me sick.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Yes, people are so desperate to find a way to blame her and excuse him. What difference does it make whether she is “fishy” as a person or not? He abused her. What difference does it make is she hit someone else a few years ago? He abused her. What difference does it make if she married him for money? He abused her. What difference does it make if he didn’t hit her unless he was drunk? He abused her. There is NO excuse for what he did. None. As long as we continue to side skirt the real issues and blame the victims of domestic violence for what happens to them, we will continue to be a nation where a woman is hit every fifteen seconds.

      • Almondjoy says:

        GNAT exactly. HE ABUSED HER. This is the issue at hand.

      • Wilma says:

        I don’t get why the people who like Depp don’t want him to get help. Something is obviously wrong with him, he looks like three kinds of hell, has been violent towards his wife and is surrounded by yes-people. Why aren’t his fans rooting for him to get help?

      • Snazzy says:

        Yes GNAT, exactly

      • Ennie says:

        Wilma, exactly.

    • Almondjoy says:

      Thank you, Roxanne. People go such great lengths to defend him. Please stop.

      • Roxane says:

        Thank you, Ladies. This is so frustrating, commenters here have the patience to explain things in terms of moral and legally, but still people continuy to be blind.

    • Snowflake says:

      The people commenting are ridiculous on there. Idiots.

    • Carol says:

      @roxanne everyone has a right to state their opinion, including Lucy, even if you don’t agree with them. this type of intolerant reaction is something you find at TMZ.

      • Roxane says:

        @CarolI’m sorry but I hate this kind of argument, “it’s my opinion” so I can say whatever idiotic things coming across my mind. When your opinion is contradicted by evidences, start asking yourself questions, looking for any nonsense to not believe a victim of domestic violence is not just an opinion, it’s harmfull.

      • Veronica says:

        You have a right to your opinion. You do not have a right to voice an opinion in a public forum without it being questioned, dissected, or outright challenged. You do not live in a vacuum where words and actions lack repercussions. DV victims exist everywhere and many of them face the same challenges we’re witnessing with Amber with a fraction of resources at their disposal. This is an emotional issue for many people for a good reason. Don’t pretend otherwise if you’re going to engage in discussion about it.

  4. SloaneY says:

    From what I’ve read, AH was scheduled to be there on the 10th of her own volition, but backed out when Wasser said she wanted to depose her.

    • Abbott says:

      So?

      • SloaneY says:

        Just putting out facts that were left out in the post.

      • Jellybean says:

        It is probably legal games. Heard’s lawyers wanted more time to prepare their case, Depp’s wanted it over with quickly. Heard’s lawyers are stalling to force an agreement on to pushing back the court date. They did have a meeting arranged on Friday, so Heard was available, but she has the right to refuse because she wasn’t given 10 days notice for a deposition. I have no idea how long it should take to hand over information, but I guess most lawyers push their luck as far as they can without annoying the judge.

      • Abbott says:

        Lol

    • Helen says:

      As someone who has been deposed, it actually takes a lot of time to prepare for the deposition, and they can drag on for hours. They also have to be done at opposing counsel’s office, which is ridiculously intimidating. Yes you have your lawyers with you, but you have to do it on their turf. As a DV survivor, that might just be too much of a uncomfortable situation for Heard right now.

      • Kristin says:

        Forget hours, I’ve deposed and defended depositions that lasted for DAYS! People often forget or don’t realize that a deposition, much like in-court testimony, is binding, under-oath testimony that carries with it penalties of perjury. As an attorney, I would NEVER let my client testify in court without preparing them for direct and cross-examination questions and the exact same thing applies with a deposition. You don’t serve up your client to opposing counsel without preparing them. Laura Wasser’s last-minute request was an innappropriate legal strategy to make an end run around the rules of civil procedure. Wasser did that because she wanted to make Amber Heard look bad. She knew Heard’s lawyers would object to the last-minute deposition and now Wasser gets to make it seem like Amber Heard is shady and hiding something when really Heard’s lawyer did EXACTLY what she should have done which is oppose the last minute deposition. I’m telling you as an attorney, there is absolutely NOTHING shady about the way Amber Heard’s lawyer has handled this case. Honestly, I would behave almost exactly the same. And Helen is right in that the deposition is held at the opposing counsel’s office and for a victim of domestic violence this can be an overwhelming or extremely intimidating environment.

      • Kitten says:

        Thank you for your professional insight, Kristin. That makes perfect sense.

      • Spiderpig says:

        Thanks for this, Kristen.

    • Crumpet says:

      Lawyers should give notice of deposition at least 10 days in advance, not at the last minute like Wasserman tried to pull. She is the one trying to make Amber look bad by pulling that stunt, and the judge saw right through it as did Amber’s team.

  5. Louise177 says:

    Did Amber even ask for money other than alimony? It’s been said that she would only get it for 7 or 8 months anyway due to CA laws. $50,000/month sounds a lot but it’s just $350,000 or $400,000. Hardly a big pay day in Hollywood terms.

    • Jellybean says:

      She also demanded use of Depp’s three LA penthouse apartments, maybe that is what is missing from the counter offer? Plus there was no time limit on any of the original demands so maybe that was a sticking point too? Heard’s lawyer’s original letter was published in response to her saying that money was a minor issue and it was all about her safety and the safety of other victims. The letter mentioned the DV and said they wanted to settle in private but only if they agreed quickly to the demands. There was no request that Depp keep his distance.

      • Kimbella says:

        @ jellybean what do you mean there no request for Johnny to keep his distance ? She filed a restraining order against him

      • Janice says:

        I think she meant in the original letter her lawyers sent to his which was before she asked for a restraining order.

    • SloaneY says:

      I believe that’s in addition to the standard property settlement.

  6. Yolo112 says:

    Honestly, I’m tired of hearing about this. I’m tired of politics and this.

    • Petee says:

      Word.The truth will come out in the end.

      • isabelle says:

        Real truth actually rarely does come out in today’s sensationalized news & media cycle. Money & old school name clout can change the “truth” especially if it falls into the hands of a great PR team.

      • I Choose Me says:

        You mean the truth as you want it to be right? Lord, you people are so obvious.

    • Kitten says:

      Then take a nap? Or perhaps don’t click. It really is that simple.

      This story is bigger than the two celebrities involved and if you’ve been listening to the dv victims on this site who are bravely sharing their heartbreaking stories about how hard it was to leave, how nobody believed them, then you’d know that.

      • Capepopsie says:

        @ kitten

        Exactly My feelings too!
        And I would like to thank all of
        You for sharing this in spite of
        All the sorrow it Probably causes.

      • Kiliki says:

        Listen to Kitten!

        Some women really have the knack for the bottom line.

        I appreciate that.

    • Crumpet says:

      This situation has been an incredible opportunity to educate about DV, and we have been blessed with this site that has allowed a thoughtful discourse on th subject.

      You are not being forced to click on articles you are tired of reading about.

      • yolo112 says:

        I responded to Kitten, but apparently it wasn’t posted. Don’t try to put me in the Team Johnny section of the room because I make one comment about the JD and AH posts. Honestly, everyday, usually multiple posts as soon as one little nugget of info is updated. It’s just A LOT of back and forth to keep up with.

        Just because I said I’m tired of seeing so many posts doesn’t mean I’m in any way trying to make light of the issue. DV is a painful thing to witness and live through. Most of the time, these angry hands of DV are the same hands of child abusers. You don’t know me, my family history or what I have personally seen and been through so don’t tell me to take a nap, or not click or comment. It’s an opinion and I’m allowed that.

        I agree that this situation is a blessing because it puts the spotlight on a terrible issue that often times is overlooked and under reported.

      • Kitten says:

        Whoa, dude, that’s a lot of extrapolating.

        I didn’t “put” you anywhere. I never said you’re not allowed to post your opinion nor did I say anything about your personal history.

        I simply said this forum has been therapeutic as well as educational for a lot of us and and your comment seemed to ignore that. I found it to be callous, that’s all.

        I’m glad if you want to be part of the conversation-the more the merrier-but I don’t appreciate it when people try to shut it down with dismissive comments, that’s all.

      • wolfpup says:

        Crumpet – you know that I’ve been thinking about DV a lot! I had to find you today to let you know that I found my answer to the feeling that I wasn’t able to stop the bleeding in my soul. It is this;

        I believe that it is possible to put distance between myself and the gloating of a man who got away with his efforts to hurt me deeply, as well as the additional burden of dealing the effects of gaslighting. Those years I spent choosing to live in the light and peace and wholeness, despite the evil distractions. That has given my visage; dignity, and my body; presence. I refuse to allow his negativity afflict me and run riot in my soul. It’s another beautiful day, and I will live it with an open and luminous heart.

        This discussion on domestic violence has helped me so much, thanks to everyone! Blessings to you, Crumpet!

      • Crumpet says:

        wolfpup, what a beautiful thing you have said! Yes, it is a choice, isn’t it? For me I think I need to forgive him – to forgive him for not being a good husband or father while he was married to me. Why that was, I will likely never understand and I need to let it go instead of constantly thinking what could have been or why he was the way he was with me. You can’t drive by looking in the rearview mirror (that is one little saying that has helped me a lot).

        Your post has put a big smile on my face. :D I am glad you are doing so well and that these conversations have helped you. They have helped me too. Love and blessings right back at your luminous loving heart!

      • Crumpet says:

        OK, well yes, you have every right to be tired of this, for whatever reason. I just can’t fathom why you would feel the need to post that and it seemed quite callous (as Kitten already said).

      • Lady D says:

        wolfpup, I hardly know what to say to you. If ever I find myself in a situation where evil has won and I have to live with the gloating, I’m going to borrow some of your strength and hope I have half of your grace to cope with it.
        Crumpet, I think I would have become homicidal in your position, don’t know how you did it.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      What an fascinating, deep life you must live.

  7. Janice says:

    The fact that what she says and what she does don’t match maybe? Oops, this was supposed to be nested in comment 1.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Huh?

      How about the fact that what he said, maybe something like loving and honoring, didn’t match what he did, allegedly something like hitting, kicking and suffocating.

  8. Queenie says:

    Amber said she wants to go to Raquel Pennington’s engagement party when Raquel was engaged last year?

    • Kiliki says:

      I got engaged last year and my fiancé and I have yet to plan our engagement party BECAUSE of dealing with the repercussions of the very topic of domestic violence and the havoc it’s wreaked on his side of the family.

      These details and tangents and sidebars are ridiculous. See my comment about Kitten’s insight and ability to cut through and see the bottom line.

      THANK YOU, KITTEN.

  9. Lemondrop says:

    They have to turn over everything. They can’t use “surprise evidence”.. I do believe the United States of America still operate with “innocent until PROVEN guilty”, hence the need to turn over all evidence.

    Then again, I guess they can’t score big bucks for pictures and texts if they have to turn them in as evidence first(I’m talking about her “friends’ here).

    Lets get this over with already. Divorce. Restraining order, move on with you life Amber. Believe you deserve better next time. Johnny, divorce, pay what you owe legally and quietly get yourself into rehab.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Assuming they were paid. How about Depp’s friends, bodyguards etc. Doing everything out of the goodness of their hearts?

      Seems like trolls get up early on Sundays.

      • Celebitchy says:

        Who we have a lot of new commenters with proxy IP addresses defending Johnny, as usual.

      • Crumpet says:

        Ooh CB, interesting indeed.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Yes, Sunday is troll day.

      • Naya says:

        PROXY IP addresses? I knew that Hollywood crisis teams mess with comments sections, Ronan Farrow even talked about it in the article about his child molester father. So I knew but didn’t KNOW KNOW.

        How awful it must feel to be the target of such an underhanded and massive attack. I hope somebody is giving Amber lots of warm hugs

      • Brittney B. says:

        CB, thanks for the insight… I was hoping you were paying attention to IP addresses.

    • Algybear says:

      I’m a longtime lurker who has been accused of being a troll for raising questions about the details of these stories. I am not a JD fan, just someone who has lived long enough to have my own sense of judgment.

      One should always be skeptical of the “deliberate provocation”, “mutual combat”, and “rough sex” defenses in relationship violence cases. But the fact pattern here – even on AH’s version of events and the public record – actually supports those theories.

      It does not help increase understanding of dv or promote justice for dv victims to insist all claims be taken uncritically. Most dv claims are not part of a strategy to get money or custody; those who use them for such end up harming everyone else. What dv victim ‘in fear for their life’ would object to mutual restraining orders – especially when they have any dv record themselves or reputation for a volatile temper?

      • Rapunzel says:

        Algybear- “deliberate provocation” “mutual combat” etc, are NEVER viable defenses. Even provoking, nobody deserves abuse. Even being combative, nobody deserves abuse. There’s nothing Amber could have done to merit him smothering her with a pillow, etc.

      • Algybear says:

        We are not taking about ‘deserving abuse’ but about contributory causes. In most cases where those factors are raised they are B.S. smokescreens. Here they arguably have merit.

      • Kitten says:

        Wow….I don’t know what to say except your “sense of judgment” is rather…bananas.

        I feel kind of bad saying that because as a longtime lurker, you finally got the balls to post and people like myself will give you a rash of sh*t that will make you never want to post again, which is certainly not my intention. But the picture you’re painting is one of mutual abuse, BDSM gone awry and other Dateline-sourced material and there has been ZERO evidence of that thus far.

        Have you really never seen a person bring up domestic violence claims in a divorce hearing? That’s essentially what she’s doing. When would be the “right” time for her to bring it up?

      • Rapunzel says:

        @Algybear– Contributory causes? Nonsense. That’s saying a person contributed to their own abuse!! Which is saying that person deserves it! No. Just no. The only contributory cause of abuse is the abuser being an abuser. Period.

      • ronaldinhio says:

        I would object to a mutual restraining order for anyone I worked with who had been a victim of domestic abuse.
        Accepting an order restraining them too is in some way acknowledging that they have a part to play in the violence they received at the hands of another

        Shame on you.
        So many abusers claim their victims are mutually abusive. So many make excuses for abusers
        Shame on them

      • Algybear says:

        @ronaldinhio:

        What part of my original post did you not understand?

        “One should always be skeptical of the “deliberate provocation”, “mutual combat”, and “rough sex” defenses in relationship violence cases. But the fact pattern here – even on AH’s version of events and the public record – actually supports those theories.”

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        @Algybear
        In what way do you believe the “pattern” here supports the theory that Amber deliberately provoked Johnny to try to suffocate her and pull out chunks of her hair? In what way does anyone “provoke” another person to do such a thing to his own wife? Did she…stick her tongue out at him and call him names? Did she…yell “hey fat boy, your scarves are ugly?” In what way does a woman “provoke” a man to beat her? How twisted your mind is. And let’s talk about the “rough sex.” How is THAT theory supported? No one has mentioned one thing about rough sex. Or any sex. There were witnesses IN THE ROOM, including his brave bodyguards who stood there and let him kick her. Were they having sex in front of these people? How odd that nobody mentioned it. As for “mutual combat,” yeah. A 120 pound woman and a man twice her size. That was mutual. You may have lived a long time, but the years have not added much to your wisdom. The opposite, in fact.

      • Crumpet says:

        I’m just stuck on “contributory causes”. NOBODY contributes to their own abuse. Shame on you.

  10. Dippit says:

    I read that her team have requested that the hearing (set for the 17th) be moved to a later date as AH needs more time to prepare. The Judge has yet to rule on this request apparently.

  11. Luca76 says:

    I honestly don’t like Amber in that she’s a bad actress and comes off as annoying in interviews but in my mind that’s irrelevant. Whatever her faults Johnny shouldn’t have hit her and however much money she gets she deserves more for what she went through.

  12. Faithmobile says:

    Some questions for the people who don’t believe her: do you think she beat herself up and then took pictures? Do you think all the witnesses are lying? Do you think she wanted to sabotage her career and her public image? Do you honestly think she will get more money from divorcing him now than she would have if she stayed married to him?

    • Kitten says:

      Yes this over and over. At this point if you don’t believe Amber then by extension you must believe that she is one of the most diabolical humans the world has ever known. You have to believe that she fabricated the bruises, the text messages, that she bribed her friends to collude with her..I mean, you basically have to believe that Gone Girl is a true story.

  13. Mp says:

    F@ck this guy, seriously. And all the people that question Amber’s motives. And also, if yo think these comments are insane, you have no idea of what southamerican blogs look like, not 1 supportive comment for Amber, she’s a money hungry lesbian liar. Im done with people -.-

  14. Rapunzel says:

    Wasser didn’t submit deposition requests on time= she’s an idiot. They clearly had to know they’d at least want to depose Amber. Ridiculous to try and last minute things.

    This just tells me JD’s legal team thought they could smear Amber enough in the press that she’d drop it/settle, so they didn’t do the work for the case properly. Ugh. Hope it bites them in the butt.

    • Kitten says:

      Your comments are aces. Well done.

    • marymoon says:

      “Wasser didn’t submit deposition requests on time … JD’s legal team thought they could smear Amber enough in the press that she’d drop it/settle, so they didn’t do the work for the case properly. ”

      ^ THIS, exactly

    • Crumpet says:

      rapunzel, not only is your hair stunning, so is your synopsis!

      • Tia says:

        Or they wanted her lawyers to refuse so they could argue Amber was refusing to cooperate in the press.

  15. Rapunzel says:

    re: Those saying Amber is fishy. It doesn’t matter if she’s fishy. She can be a school of salmon for all I care.

    And what about Johnny’s fishy behavior? Like his continual partying in Europe, when a truly horrified innocent person would be at home taking care of things. Or his ex-gf Vanessa putting out a statement about how sweet he is when Johnny’s own words– his own words!!– prove her wrong. Or his friend Doug writing hit pieces in exchange for book promotion.

    What matters is the evidence, which says JD abused her. That’s all.

  16. FF says:

    So… what I’m getting from the responses here is: the shills have landed – in force this time.

    Some of these comments look like one or two people having ‘conversations’ with themselves.

    Hope her restraining order gets extended, tbh. Frankly, nothing about his or his team’s response – in all forms – has countered her allegations of an abusive personality and relationship. Every time his group throws something out there, I marvel at the lack of contradiction. If anything, he’s corroborating what she’s stated.

    He hasn’t taken any responsibility for the relationship nosedoving (under normal circumstances, it takes two), and his seemingly instant disregard of her – someone he chose to marry – has been telling. There’s a range of other responses that he’s majorly missed in this race to smear, distract, and discredit.

    It’s been a creepy and disturbing thing to observe, for sure.

  17. G says:

    I guess this whole saga really hits me personally because I was a victim of verbal and emotional abuse from a friend. I stayed in that friendship for years because of my poor emotional well-being. It took me a drastic event to leave.
    People still think ill of me for leaving that friend. They see her as a perpetual victim. I am much more brash and polarizing, whereas the friend is smaller, comventionally attractive, and seen as having a harder life. She acts like a sociopath and yet peole will always be at her defense. I used to be one of those people.
    To this day, I have only told maybe 5 people about the abuse. I know no one will want to believe me. After all, I am not perfect and don’t act like a victim.
    I relate to Amber. She took a chance knowing that so many people would hate her and discredit her. I wish I had the courage to stand up for myself like her.
    As for the money and all that, personally, if I had the chance to get conpensated for my abuse, I would have taken it. So I can’t fault her for taking this to court and allegedly wanting a settlement. I would too.

    • Snowflake says:

      Me too.

    • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

      I agree with what you’ve said, she has to go to court, get a settlement and if possible, also put him behind bars.
      On the other hand, this media circus is more damaging to her than anything else. I get the part of defending herself from his PR team and what they are saying about her, but a quiet settlement would hurt her career far less…

      • Guesto says:

        Absolutely No. A ‘make it go away’ quiet settlement would leave her open to every accusation under the sun. It would (with all the attendant restrictions that Team Depp would impose) at this stage, provide just more food for the ‘gold-digging bitch’ brigade.

        A quiet settlement, following an acknowledgment by Team Depp that she was not lying and that he was guilty of DV, on the other hand, would be a good move forward. And if it was accompanied by genuine remorse on his part and a serious commitment to rehab, then I think both might, in time, continue to have careers.

      • Dlo says:

        That is just it. Lawyers here if I am wrong, please correct me. If this goes to trial, and if JD is convicted of dv, it is his first offense. Fined, anger management classes, maybe even probation, but JD would serve no jail time. This itself is a crime. My ex tried to kill me, my restraining order was extended is all that happened to him. He pointed out a restraining order is just a piece of paper between him and me.

      • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

        @Guesto, I wasn’t talking abou now, a quiet settlement would have been better before this whole media circus.
        Now, she has to go till the end.

      • Guesto says:

        But she was hit with ‘cold callous gold-digger’ accusations the minute she filed for divorce! What was she supposed to do? Accept it and go quietly along her way with people thinking she was a heartless golddigger and her career up in smoke? And keep the DV silent? And not make a fuss over it so it didn’t impact on Depp’s nice guy brand and career?

        And now, yes, she has to go to the end, wherever that is. But the alternative was that she put up and shut up. And she hasn’t. And I will be supporting that all the way to the end.

      • LP says:

        ‘A quiet settlement’ like how she tried to handle this quietly at the outset and he refused? Or quiet in the sense that it would have allowed him to go on to abuse the next woman? Is that what you meant?

      • here's Wilson says:

        @DLO. ..sadly the bit about a restraining order just being a piece of paper is true…abusers who have no regard for the law or who are mentally unstable won’t recognize a piece of paper…

        It reminds of a case locally where a woman was being abused by her husband…he threatened to kill her and burn her house down…she filed and received a PFA…the very next day after her filing he killed her and set the house on fire with her body inside…

        It must have been a terribly scary situation for you when he made those remarks…hope all is well for you now

      • Dlo says:

        @heres Wilson, that was many years ago, thank you I am safe now, but you always live with the scars. The police where I lived actually advised me to move if possible, which I did, to another state.

      • Lady D says:

        25 years of women with restraining orders dying, and nothing changes. That piece of paper needs to come with a gun or tazer ’cause right now women are dying with a restraining order in their hand.

  18. NCliberal says:

    Can people stop saying “If she was really in fear for her life…”??

    She was in fear for her life when he tried to smother her with a pillow. She was in fear for her safety when he was home with her. At this point, she is lucky enough to have a support network of friends and high visibility. She doesn’t have to fear for her life anymore. I imagine she’s never alone, always with a friend. She can pursue a reasonable settlement. She has no reason to “flee with the clothes on her back.” She’s out. Now she needs to take care of her future, which is very much at risk thanks to Depp’s PR.

    Those of us who have seen/experienced DV know well that planning for a life after leaving is a BIG part of the struggle. It’s one of the reasons people stay so long.

  19. Rapunzel says:

    I don’t wanna speculate about Amber’s reasons for getting into or staying with Johnny. To me, that just says your reasons matter. And they don’t. Whatever reason she got with Johnny and stayed with Johnny are irrelevant to her case, and irrespective of her evidence.

  20. Rocío says:

    His restraining order makes me laugh! Johnny Depp should issue an apology, pay AH and check himself in rehab asap.

  21. emilie says:

    Someone called Amber “fishy”. I used to think there was something off about her, but not anymore. Everything she did and said throughout this relationship makes perfect sense knowing what we know now.
    I remember thinking it was weird that a grown woman always brought a friend or her sister with her when she was out traveling with her husband. I understand that now.
    I remember thinking she looked stuck up and empty on red carpets. I understand that look now.
    I remember thinking she came off so “try hard” and arrogant in interviews. I understand that now. She was trying so hard to convince everyone how independent and stong she is, and I think she was trying to convince herself more than anyone. How scared and lonely she must have been for the past few years. Being closed off from the real world. Being watched and criticised for everything by the whole world.
    This young woman has been bullied in the the media and comment sections for years. Witnessing how much power Depp has, I think it’s very telling that he didn’t try to change people’s perception of her years ago. But I guess that’s just another way to controll her. “You are nothing without me.” “Everyone hates you.” “If you leave me you will prove people right.”

    • FF says:

      It’s interesting how he lowkey fed into that perception. His friends have been too fast to jump on it, as if they either never met her, or never viewed her as a person in the same way they see Johnny.

      It’s an odd way to regard her unless they viewed her negatively from the start. And if they’re mainly interacting with him why would they hold that attitude unless he didn’t challenge/fed it.

    • Goldie says:

      As much as I dislike Johnny right now, I’m not sure if it’s fair to blame him for the negative perception of Amber during the marriage. He always gushed about her in interviews and defended her during the dog-smuggling fiasco. After they broke up, his team certainly smeared her, but I’m not sure what he could have done to make her more likable while they were married.
      Also, was she really bullied by the media? I remember seeing a lot of negative comments on blogs like this, but I don’t recall seeing negative articles about her in the press, except for during the dog-smuggling case. Maybe I just missed it. I was always pretty neutral towards her and never really got why she was so despised around here.

    • GingerNYC says:

      💓 this

  22. Birdy says:

    awww poor dirty depp needs a restraining order! give me a damn break! how does Wasser sleep at night? shes a dirty sleaze just like depp!

  23. Shannon Bullock says:

    I am sick of the spotlight being on Amber’s behavior, Amber’s reputation, minor perceived inconsistencies with Amber’s version of events. Amber is not on trial.

    I want to know why the heck Johnny Depp is still running around the world getting wasted in public and no one is scrutinizing his decision to not get help for his seriously out of control life. I want to know the names and backgrounds of all the enablers and sycophants he’s surrounding himself with who are now doing his completely not subtle dirty work to throw Amber under the bus. I want to know why none of these ‘suspicious’ commenters aren’t curious at all about Johnny’s history or private life, aside from the fact that they obviously don’t want to look into it too far because of what they would learn. Cowards.

    • Rapunzel says:

      ShannonBullock- I totally agree with you– where’s the examination of Johnny’s behavior? It’s like everyone just wants excuses, so they are looking at the victim, rather than the victimizer.

    • Goldie says:

      I agree. The most telling thing to me is that Johnny hasn’t even denied the abuse allegations, and yet some people refuse to even consider the possibility that he’s guilty.

      • Emma - The JP Lover says:

        @Goldie, who wrote: “I agree. The most telling thing to me is that Johnny hasn’t even denied the abuse allegations, and yet some people refuse to even consider the possibility that he’s guilty.”

        Perhaps because he’s waiting until he’s in front of the Judge to do so?

      • Crumpet says:

        Emma, are you serious? The man is a sloppy out of control drunk. I find it hard to believe that he is suddenly able to modulate his behavior and refrain from defending himself from these very serious allegations.

        Amber’s got him by the balls and he knows it. There is NOTHING he could say to justify a black eye and a bloody lip. THAT is why he hasn’t bothered trying to deny it.

      • Rebecca says:

        Unfortunately, he’ll never be in front of a judge. He won’t show up for a restraining order hearing. Only his lawyer will be there. He’ll settle eventually out of court. There is too much of a chance the truth will come out in court and he won’t want to risk that.

    • Birdy says:

      I agree with you!

  24. Naddie says:

    Usually people mention TMZ here so I looked it up. It’s like, the antithesis of Celebitchy. I thought I needed to check my eye or head to believe what I was reading up there. They go from acusing her of faking inuries and making “real victims’s life harder” to cruel jokes. And they’re many, which scares me.

  25. emilie says:

    Johnny Depp the family man. The tender and loving father. When there is a death in the family and he is being accused of being an abuser, he supports his childeren by going on tour with his band. He lets them read about him being openly dunk and flirting with swedish girls. This is how a loving father supports his kids through family trauma and death. Then after the tour he jets of to his island, while the kids are in LA.

  26. pandacookie says:

    Here’s what I want to know–How can Johnny’s pr team suck as bad as they do? He needs to hire me. My strategy would have been to settle and divorce before it all got out. Plan B would be to pay her reparations immediately, apologize profusely claiming no recollection of abuse due to alcoholism, check into rehab pronto. Oh, and take that damn makeup off, get a proper haircut and clothes that don’t scream mid life crisis. Jeez, it’s not that hard. Take some responsibility for your actions and do some personal growth Johnny. Can you learn from that Stanford rapist? Now, as if it wasn’t clear to the world just by looking at you, everyone is privy to the level of disaster you really are. You can come back from so much but not after blaming the victim. I really hope Disney cuts bait with this guy. So disgusted.

  27. rudy says:

    OMG! Talk about abusing the victim! Are you people kidding me?

    Amber has PHOTOS, she has TEXTS, she has a friend who HEARD HER SCREAM and SAW THE BLOOD!!!

    Abused partners are COMMONLY afraid of turning in their loved one. For various reasons: He will do better, or She didn’t mean it, or He is not really that bad.

    And this is JOHNNY EFFING DEPP, the darling of the world!

    Those trashing Amber should be ashamed of themselves. She lies because of a postponed deposition???? Give the girl a break. She is going against an icon of Hollywood. YOU will hear lies and lies and lies about her. This is the HOllywood machine. It is in full force.

    This took guts to do. Amber could have just divorced him. But she had enough. She did NOT want anyone else to walk into his arms and be beat. THAT takes courage.

  28. Goodnight says:

    People feel like something is ‘off’ largely because they don’t like Amber and we don’t have all the facts so it seems like there are holes in her story. She’s nothing close to a perfect victim.

    I can’t stand Amber, but I believe her evidence. I think that the potential to increase her profile in Hollywood was probably a factor in her marrying him, but I can’t see why she wouldn’t just stay with him for a while longer if she was in it for the money to the extent people are accusing her of.

    People like conspiracy theories and dislike Amber thus an alarming number of people think Amber is playing everyone and faking everything for some kind of profit.

    • emilie says:

      I like Amber and I admire her greatly. She has shown great strength in this situation. She also has some amazing, supportive and strong group of friends. That tells me she must be a good and respected friend herself. You don’t get support like that if you’re “off” and unlikeable. Johnny on the other hand seems to have paid “friends”, groupies, people with a new book to promote and people with money to lose.

  29. MoochieMom says:

    I’ve refrained from commenting but I guess I have something to say. As someone actively involved in domestic violence counseling, I can tell you it is hard to get your bearings after the first time and harder after each incident until you hit a breaking point. It destroys all of you. You go through every step of loss in a few days but there is always guilt and shame. The loss is of yourself.

    Amber is much stronger than I was until about 8 weeks out after A LOT (3x a week) of counseling. I can tell you that once you get your bearings, another attack is on it’s way and you start all over with the guilt and shame. I can tell you some doctors and medical professionals overlook abuse and accept the lies you tell even when they know they are lies. I’m not famous and it’s happened to me. Also, in your mind, there is a door you keep shut to protect yourself because you aren’t ready to face what is behind that door. It open when you are ready. Some of us keep that door shut more than others.

    Documenting and keeping records is one of the first things they tell you to do if you are going to stay in a relationship with an abusive person so you can have protection when you end the relationship. A lot of people stay for many different reasons but it never excuses the abuse. The most vulnerable time for an abused person is when they leave and we’re seeing that daily as they are public figures. I thank God my life isn’t played out in the tabloids. If I had to face the judgement she is facing I don’t know how I would ever recover and so I don’t judge her. I don’t judge him because I don’t have, or care to gather, all the facts. I’m too busy finding a couple of hours to escape and breathe. This, is not my fight or something I can fix and my life needs my attention.

  30. Miss S says:

    I got to a point where even thought I want to know the current developments of this story, I just can’t contribute by giving people facts about what we know when they are going into the route of using arguments based on fiction or giving opinions based on the need to just discredit Amber (let’s not the truth get in the way of a good story, right?).

    This is messy not because Amber is being messy in her accusations or story, this is all perceived as a messy case (which adds doubt to her credibility) because important media is insisting on a narrative and campaign of misinformation. They aren’t even sharing information about the laws California that are on the table on this case. The PR spinning based on our collective manipulation is immense and scary. Logic and critical thinking are substituted by lazy and superficial opinions that can have detrimental consequences on public perception of DV.

    We can all give Amber the benefit of the doubt while not stating that Depp in guilty of what he is being accused of. And if this nuance is not expected on comment sections of articles and gossip websites, I would expect it from responsible media. I would also expect them to use this opportunity to help people understand DV, how it happens, why and how can we solve it.
    In my country 40 women already died at the hands of their partners and many were not believed or dismissed when asking for help. Everyone believes them now.

  31. honeybee blues says:

    Her mountains of evidence aside, the simple fact that he’s not yet denied it is, on its face, an admission. The House of Mouse don’t play, and they would have forced him to go on every talk show in the Western Hemisphere to deny, deny, deny. If he could. Legally. He hasn’t, because he can’t. And I’m sure the trolls will reason out this one too, with “Wasser won’t let him,” etc., but that is again bovine excrement, as stated above: the House of Mouse don’t play, and they would overrule Wasser on that call. So much so, that I’d bet month’s salary their announcement is being crafted as I type. His team is shameful, and the Mouse is paying close attention. 3, 2, 1…