Buckle up. There’s going to be a lot of yelling at and around Sarah Jessica Parker today. SJP covers the September issue of Marie Claire to promote her new HBO show Divorce (which looks awful). To shill for the show, SJP decided to share some thoughts she has about feminism. She’s very much AGAINST feminism. You know why? Because she’s all about equality. And she thinks feminism is all about separating people and being unequal, I guess? This is absolutely one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard from any celebrity woman on the topic of feminism.
On marriage and divorce: “For me, it’s really the investment in the other person. And it’s the expectations you have. They change and you get smarter, and maybe you think those expectations aren’t worth striving for with this person, and that’s when people bail.”
On her new show being compared to Sex and the City: “I love the way the pilot episode opens because everyone’s asking, “Oh, is this a spin-off of Sex and the City?” And the moment that the opening scene ends, and you see her give him the finger, you know it’s very different.”
On being a feminist: “I am not a feminist. I don’t think I qualify. I believe in women and I believe in equality, but I think there is so much that needs to be done that I don’t even want to separate it anymore. I’m so tired of separation. I just want people to be treated equally.”
On the gender pay gap: “I would like all of that nonsense to end. I would like women to get paid for the value of their contributions, not by old-fashioned ideas about gender.”
On other actresses speaking out in Hollywood: “Listen, Jennifer Lawrence deserves every bit as much as her male counterpart. It’s indisputable. Emma Watson is an amazing young woman, and it’s important for her to talk about women’s issues. She isn’t concerned about herself. Women are paying the bills, getting it done, getting the kids here and there. The more we address that, we are all going to be better.”
On her children: “I’m so desperate for my children to be curious people. I just want them to be happy and curious.”
“I don’t think I qualify” and then in the rest of the interview, she espouses feminist talking points pushed by the new wave of Hollywood feminists. Why do certain women think that feminism “separates” people? When did that talking point enter the public discourse? When did grown-ass women start to think, “I can’t call myself a feminist because that would be a separation from society, or a separation from a larger conversation about feminist ideals”??? Calling yourself a feminist isn’t a separation from anything. Self-identifying as a feminist is literally the bare minimum of the larger conversation about equality.
Photos courtesy of Michelangelo di Battista/Marie Claire.
Sarah let me tell you this…
Oh never mind, back to Orlando’s peen. 🙂
@V4 totally 🙂 🙂
She sounds ridiculous. Picture her at her dinner table explaining the same to her 3 kids – the next generation! – uuuuuuuuuuggg.
Oh my god..NOT TODAY, SJP.
Ugh. I need all celebrities to just STFU now and forever.
I’ve found myself saying STFU out loud whenever I read about these starlets telling us why they’re not feminists….
Oh, it wasn’t just me…STFU, STFU, STFU already!
I’m not a feminist….but my lifestyle is. That’s what I read here.
Is it the word itself that repels? Does it seem to require a standard some women find too difficult to take on as an identity? Is it the confusion regarding the term? Or perhaps is it some women pretending to play coy and self depricating in a awww shucks I’m no feminist I’m just Lil ol me baby. Wtf.
Are women in need of what defines a feminist? Well. I think just by needing a definition, some of the natural instinct is lost. Feminism is different for everyone in that each woman is an individual force and proceeds authentically.
Personally, what I see as universal feminism is knowing you have equality in gender, the right as a person first, before the gender considered, no discrepancies in employment or social status due to gender compared to any other race or gender, freedom to move without judgment or harassment or question, the same lifestyle a male may embark on without criticism due to gender, refusual to respond to questions an employer would not ask a male candidate, immediate validation when someone in a professional environment focuses on matters that do not involve the work at hand, a right to dispute any work slight that has to do with having children at home if the work performance was well above par, and essentially being the best woman you can be without apologizing for not having a penis that doesn’t want to go to strip clubs with the boss on weekends necessarily. Tho it ain’t so bad lol. That’s my feminism. Stick together. Don’t throw other chicks under the bus to get ahead either. Whole other word for you and where you’ll end up.
So many idiots, so little time to deal with them all
THe idiocy is exhausting
NOT TODAY SATAN!
Honestly, she was never the sharpest tool in the shed. My mother always used to comment that her casting as Carrie was actually quite odd as the character as written was quite tough, sarcastic, sharp, smart and tough and SJP took that and added a fair bit of bimbo to it. The teenaged girl style shrieking she would regularly do was do out of character for a smart writer with that background. She actually dumbed the character down quite a bit. In the end she was obviously very much loved as that character, but in reality she wasn’t very good at portraying the smarts and ultra-sharp acidic sassiness of Carrie. Too saccharine.
@SKF I agree!!!! Loved your comment.
I’m tired of being outraged at people’s stupidity & ignorance. First Clint this morning, now this one…I’m exhausted.
This is exactly where I’m at to. I am on a hiatus from FB because it was exhausting me. But the celebs are bugging me too. Meh.
This is anna.
anna sees something on the Internet that offends her.
anna moves on.
anna is smart.
Be like anna.
A lot of people in the world think women are less than men. To be a feminist, at base level, all you have to do is disagree with that thinking. That’s it.
That’s a great way to put it. And it sounds like SJP does believe that, so why she is distancing herself from the feminist label is odd. It sorta has an “all lives matter” ring to it.
What can we do to make the “feminists” label less scary for these people? Most people seem to support feminist ideas, but they won’t commit because of what? I seriously don’t get it!
Feminism is not man bashing or man hating, it is promoting the idea that women can be equal to men and we deserve the same opportunities and respect and notoriety. Some folks I know can’t handle women being equal to men. It sucks but it’s true. But women like SJP should own this! Be proud to be a feminist! If you’re a woman, you have no good reason NOT to be a feminist! Unless you hate yourself and all women and think we don’t deserve equal pay, rights, and dignity. Then F you, by the way.
Focus on what people do, not what they say or label themselves.
Action speaks louder than words.
That’s exactly what Carrie Bradshaw would say while drinking a cosmopolitan and wearing shoes she can’t afford while complaining of how Charlotte decided to be a stay at home mom and how Miranda works too hard and how Samantha should stop seing young boys.
“Judgey-Wudgey was a bear…” -Stanford
(to Carrie, not you)
Ha! I miss Stanford 🙂
…she seems so invested in not getting it, it’s both sad and funny.
I think she’s still invested in being ‘the cool girl’.
She’s not like those other harpy women, those feminists. She’s much more pleasing and logical.
Invested in not getting it – the rallying cry of the year!
Agreed. I’ll be using that from here on out.
“I would like women to get paid for the value of their contributions, not by old-fashioned ideas about gender.”
Yet she doesn’t “believe” in feminism. Sigh.
The pay disparity between men and women is one of many reasons WHY feminism is still needed.
Ugh. I love SJP but she needs to get the f*ck out of here with that sh*t.
This one gave me a major case of the sads. I like her most of the time. She’s not one of my favorites, but I normally think she’s pretty cool. This interview was so disappointing.
And what annoys me the most is that this isn’t even really a dumb thing to do in the name of her branding. It’s not like saying “I’m a feminist” is going to alienate her core audience. Her core audience isn’t a bunch of cis males between 18-25 sitting at their computers contributing to 4-Chan. Her core audience are WOMEN. I don’t agree with watering yourself down as ‘not feminist’ so that you aren’t alienating your crappy core demographics – but this is just worse for me.
But she’s been spouting this shit for a few years now. Remember, she was the one espousing “humanism” in lieu of feminism last year?
She’s not unintelligent either so yeah…no excuses. I still like her, but she just sounds so out-of-touch when she speaks on this particular subject.
It’s sad. I had forgotten about the humanism thing, honestly. Probably because it annoyed me at the time.
I can see part of her point – that people should be paid based on what they contribute to a project. But the equal pay conversation has never been about equal pay for positions of varying levels. It’s about equal pay for equal work. Doesn’t seem like she understands that at all.
I also believe in women. Some people may never have spotted one, in the same way that some people may never have seen Father Christmas, the baby stork or fairies at the bottom of the garden. But I haven’t just SEEN actual women. I AM one. Crazy, I know. I don’t mind if you don’t believe me or even believe IN me: I understand it’s a matter of faith.
You’re not a woman. You’re a sentient number 6 that’s come to life and provides us with humor and just enough pervy banter over food and sarcasm.
Turns to tour group
“Sorry all, false alarm! But keep those binoculars up, I do believe a saw an abandoned high heel and evidence of primping in that corner! We’ll find a woman yet!”
Bloody hell. I’m a figment of my own imagination!
Or a Life Model Decoy ( see Marvel)
Sixer. Book. ❤️
I find “feminazi” is one of the most offensive words that’s thrown about in the UK by anti – feminists. Presumably in these people’s own twisted universe, feminists are committed to genocide against men. The term is offensive both to feminists and those who suffered in WW2. SJP really sounds a numpty here.
If you want to be treated equally, SJP, start by asking magazines to lay off the air brushing. Yeesh, she doesn’t look remotely like herself — but if she were a 47 year old man, all her wrinkles and laugh lines would be in full view.
I think it’s a real kick in the stomach to the women who fought tooth and nail for us to get as far as we have. Feminism isn’t a bad word, it doesn’t mean us or them. It’s about basic equality. if people have a problem with the word, change it to human rights then. i’m a proud Feminist and I love the males in my life and the word isn’t doesn’t really matter it’s the power behind it.
thank you, and same. it’s so sad to see all these celebs, who have the means to educate themselves, insisting in their ignorance. feminism isn’t a bad word.
I can’t even comment on her words, It’s no use. It’s sad to see someone who has acces to so much information and such a huge platform say such nonsense.
I also think that Emma Watson is very much concerned for herself. Being a smart educated feminist is a huge part of her image
Stop allowing misogynistic extremists like Limbaugh and O’Reilly define the term! “Feminist” does not mean “man-hater” no matter how much those creeps claim it does. I’m proud to be a feminist and if that frightens the Limbaughs of this world, they’re the problem. I am under no obligation to serve or please them. I have the right to own property, the right to credit in my own name, the right to an equal education, the right to equal employment opportunities, the right to equal pay for equal work, the right to control my own body, the right to self-determination and saying so doesn’t mean I hate men.
Well said. It hadn’t occurred to me that those guys are the ones who started the backlash. They’re the anti-PC pioneers too, if I’m not mistaken. All the more reason to wave our feminist flags proudly.
Faux News has so much to answer for. I just hope we’ll all make it through to a time when all this is a bunch of ridiculousness in history textbooks that students mock for stupidity.
It started way before Limbaugh and O’Reilly. The pushback and backlash go back to the 60s and 70s. Also, a lot of the blame goes to women, themselves. So many 20-and 30-somethings are afraid of the word. They don’t understand the word. They take so much for granted. They have no idea what had been fought for them. They don’t take it seriously. They’re complacent. A lot of people don’t care about history. There’s plenty of blame to go around.
If we get a Republican president; they’re in for a rude awakening.
Am I the only one tired and angry of the fact that JENNIFER LAWRENCE—the 25 year old woman who was in a supporting role American Hustle (A role that really should have gone to an older woman btw) continues to get all the attention for an injustice THAT WAS ACTUALLY DONE TO AMY ADAMS. It was AMY ADAMS who’s private life was HACKED illegally and splashed all over tabloids. It was AMY ADAMS who was publicly humiliated by the Sony Hack. It was AMY ADAMS who was paid less than Jeremy Renner in that freaking movie. It was AMY ADAMS who as a woman over 40 who isn’t a 25 year old blond bombshell with youth privilege was in a different spot than Lawrence. It was AMY ADAMS who got publicly humiliated over the SONY HACK, got ABUSED on set by an abusive director, admitted that she cried every single day on set and then talked openly after the fact about how the director ABUSED her—something that btw Jennifer Lawrence has never been willing to do—she brushed off the abuse. It was AMY ADAMS who had to suffer first so that now all these other YOUNGER women (of course they are younger) can come forward and act as IF they would EVER accept less. Which is way easier to do AFTER another woman has already had to take the brunt of the sexism publicly. AMY ADAMS was the one who was screwed over and abused and it was only because the Sony Hack exposed that abuse (and made her relive it publicly—how freaking awful) that other women got the strength to come forward and talk about this. It’s not that I don’t appreciate Jennifer Lawrence or other younger actresses talking about equal pay but holy crap if this isn’t a commentary on ageism and the way that younger women can and do co-opt injustices done to women who are OLDER than them with less privilege and turn it into their own victory…I don’t know what is. I will shout until the end of time so that people do not forget that it was AMY ADAMS and not any one of these other younger women who was actually screwed over by the Sony Hack and a victim of abuse. I’m glad other women are being helped by it and I respect Jennifer Lawrence’s essay but holy crap that kind of makes my blood boil.
Well talking about private life and public humiliation, do you remember what happened to Jennifer Lawrence? I don’t agree with everything she does, but she’s more than qualify on the subject.
Roxane, Yes, I remember what happened to Jennifer Lawrence and I felt horrible for her. I’m talking specifically here about how Lawrence keeps getting talked about with the pay gap. She was not really the one impacted by the pay gap. And as a younger woman, she has a lot more privilege there than a woman over 40.
Amy Adams decided to not speak on the matter and I don’t think she would like to be talked about either. That was her choice.
@Als, Amy DID speak on the matter. She said openly that she knew, at the time, that she was being paid less but that she was basically stuck and took the opportunity. She said openly that she didn’t LIKE it. She was highlighting the REALITY that many times women are forced to accept less. There wasn’t a lot more she ::could:: say given that so much of the information about the situation was obtained illegally. Yet, Jennifer Lawrence is the one who still gets talked about as the one wronged in the pay gap and it’s ludicrous. She wasn’t. That’s all I’m saying.
Let’s just all agree she’s not very smart and move on. Clueless
Pretty dumb to say she’s not a feminist but be for equality. Sigh..
That pink thing is ghastly.
I was thinking the dress looked as if Heidi became a porn star
We need to stop listening to celebrities. I want to hear what educated people have to say on a topic that they well versed on, not a actress who hasn’t properly educated herself on the topic.
The f*ck? Sure, I mean, I don’t believe in bad weather. It’s been raining for days, in August, and I’m depressed as hell because of the rain but bad weather? No, the concept would just bring me down further, I don’t want to make it a thing. Let’s get rid of the term, it’ll make everything better.
Fine SJP, fine. We will all treat you as a lesser person than a man and you can start taking smaller paychecks than your male co-stars for doing the same job.
Slides out of chair and lays on floor wondering how someone with this much stupid hasn’t drowned herself by looking up during a rainy day.
Okay, because I am a masochist and I too love shouting into the mawing wind that is the celebrity brain:
“On being a feminist: “I am not a feminist. I don’t think I qualify. I believe in women and I believe in equality, but I think there is so much that needs to be done that I don’t even want to separate it anymore. I’m so tired of separation. I just want people to be treated equally.”
Okay Sarah, Sarah…being someone who doesn’t believe in feminism but essentially BELIEVES IN FEMINISM is like being someone who doesn’t really believe in those silly civil rights but agrees black people shouldn’t have to sit at separate sections or pick cotton. It’s stupid and it makes no sense and it physically hurts hearing that twisted pretzel logic.
BUCKLE UP. Stop being so worried about offending some man who decided you were unfuckable 2 kids and 3 wrinkles ago and THINK. HOW do you GET people to treat each other equally?? Because all this ‘wanting’ is about as good as wanting a pony. Want all you want but SOMEONE has to put in the effort to get the damn thing. Also, they ask you about a GENDER pay gap and you quote two actresses half your age??
Nope, gonna lay back down on the floor now.
You get ALL the slow claps today, ESE.
Omg I said holy shit out loud with the unfuckable three wrinkles ago.
Nail. Head. Hit.
*Hands you the mic for all of eternity.*
Love ESE *big hug*
And the church says AMEN.
I really like SJP so her comment disappoints the sh-t out of me.
Ugh. I’m getting really tired of older women, ego really should know better, saying shite like this.
I normally love SJP and thought she was politically aware so I am disappointed in this. And she should know better but I think, for women of a certain generation (e.g., just a little older than me), feminism was such a hated word in the 80s/90s that it’s still too loaded in their heads to use.
Was this a parallel 80s/90s? Because I don’t remember Feminism and feminists being a bad word at all during the 80s or 90s. ‘girl power’, shoulder pads and all that.
Oh sigh. Sigh sigh. Not you Sarah Jessica, not you too. I always liked you. Btw, I just recently defended you when a sexist co worker of mine thought he had the right to go at you because of your looks….something that specifically is done to women. Always respected you….
Why is it that some men (Channing Tatum, Denis O’Hare) have much better answers to this question than women do? Argh!
No no no. Please don’t kill my boner SJP.
She doesn’t qualify as a feminist, but she definitely qualifies as a total idiot.
Noted, she is not a feminist. Also noted, the fact that she is not smart.
We should not blame people for not being either of those things, their lives, their choices.
A Mental Giant, this One… I can’t even expend energy on this foolishness today, sorry
SJP is of the small demographic of women raised in the late 70s/mostly 80/90s. They were raised listening to the Reagan era (& beyond) conservative backlash and demonizing of the word “feminist”. It became synonymous with an ugly, bitchy woman who would never be wanted by a man or husband, because back then it was made very clear that a woman’s worth was still only made of that. So even if they believe in the talking points of the ideology, they still have an aversion to the label. They fell victim to relentless political speech. A small generational hole between the first gen grandmother’s and their 3rd gen daughters. It’s sad. Young women today however,don’t seem to attach their self worth to getting a man or having a relationship so much, which lessens the effect of typical conservative dialog. I think more advances will be made because of it.
Your comment is interesting to me because that’s the time period that I was raised: born in late-seventies, grew up in 80s and 90s. I’ve been referring to myself as a feminist for as long as I can remember. I was raised by two feminists who always embraced that word and I don’t recall my classmates having an issue with it, but then again I don’t recall any of us being incredibly vocal about feminism and all of its related issues, either.
Is your perspective coming from your own observations or is this something you’ve researched/read about or…?
I’d be curious to read more if you have links.
My 20th HS reunion is next year–maybe I could take an informal poll of how many of us refer to ourselves as feminists. 😉
Not sure what @Fire Rabbit might recommend, but I always return to Susan Faludi’s “Backlash: The Undeclared War Against American Women” as a helpful resource.
Kitten: I am curious about this comment too. I was raised in the 80s/90s by feminists. I don’t remember any hiding or shame. Most women I knew, and all the female celebs were proud feminists. If anything, it was the era of female power. All those Donna Karan ads showin female president being sworn into POTUS. A lot of advertising based on female power and not needing men. Do you remember the slogan ‘ a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle’?
Riot Grrl, girl power, ladette culture, womin, use of ‘Ms’ as opposed to ‘Miss or Mrs’ etc and so forth. Women being encouraged to reach for the brass ring – you can have it all, break that glass ceiling.
Out of that rose the backlash of Feminazis that came in the 00s, but all in all, I remember Feminism being celebrated and not qualified.
Many of the older female celebs who answer the question with a version of ‘of course i’m a feminist’ were young/youngishwomen during that era or earlier in the 70s/80s. It’s the current lot who feel they need to take a course to understand something as fundamentally basic as feminism because our generation has failed in parenting them with the doctrine from birth.
As the 90s closed, it felt like so many milestones had been achieved and then came the 00s and the feminazi backlash which has been so effective women are actually ashamed of voicing support for a movement that benefits them!!!
@Lak and Kitten, I was born in 1982. I can’t speak for what it was like to come of age in the late 70’s or 80’s because I was just a baby. But I do seem to remember that when I was growing up/in grade school…..feminism was a dirty word. I feel like I was told I could “do anything” or “be anything” but the idea of the “manly” “mean nasty cold” woman who “hated men” was definitely pushed to my generation. I almost feel like we took a step back in the 90’s and then started to find our way again.
“a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle”
YES LAK! I do remember the slogan and it was also later used in a popular U2 song.
Yup, your recollections perfectly match mine: Sassy Magazine, all-women grunge bands, plus in the US the1988 RNC where there was such a strong feminist presence over the abortion issue. But yeah to me it seems like the 00s was when feminism started to be seen as something nasty and unnecessary.
@ adastraperaspera-Thanks for the rec! I’ll definitely put that one on my list.
Kitten: your comment about all-female grunge bands sent me down a nostalgic rabbit hole on spotify. How i adored Courtney love. Dressing in lingerie with messy platinum hair (or what ever colour you chose), torn tights and boots and daring anyone to slut shame them. These days, that look would be slut shamed. That’s how far backwards we’ve gone.
well it is glaringly obvious that SJP is an uneducated twat. it has never been more clear that she was child actor who got their education on a film sets and backstage. i’m sure she fancies herself an intellectual but its pretty clear the only book she has ever cracked is a script – and most of them have sucked.
Please define “life in a bubble.” Ok, thanks!
All The Working Women Commuting Hours Into Manhattan Every Day To Clean Your West Village Palace
Oh Sarah, no! For someone who was the star of one of the most feminist shows ever created she sure is clueless. I feel bad for women that say they’re not feminists. I can’t help but feel like they’re so ill informed. Get woke Sarah!
I just wish we, as a society, would stop giving credence to celebrities about their opinions and ideas in regards to politics, society, etc. The majority of the disappoint us with their lack of understanding and education and inability to speak thoroughly on important social/political topics of our day. Honestly, I think we need to raise a generation of kids who won’t look to actress/actor xyz for political and societal advice but instead focus on the individuals in our society who understand these topics, whose opinions matter and are well informed. Instead asking SJP about feminism, ask her about her family, her roles, etc. Let the entertainers be entertainers so they aren’t continually making ill informed statements that could effect impressionable members of our society.
She’s very entitled to her opinion
Petition to only ask dudes the “so are you a feminist” question from now on. I’ve had enough of this. I’m actually genuinely curious in that answer.
If I was asked to describe who I am, “feminist” would not be included in that list. Not because I am anti-feminist, but because there are other words that I think of first.
A Secular Humanist
An epic procrastinator
I would love to know how the subject came up in this interview. Was she asked point blank “Are you a feminist?” …if so, she’s an idiot. If she was asked to describe her views and didn’t mention feminism and the journalist asked why she left it off…well, she’s still an idiot, but I give that a little more understanding.
And i would add the qualifier ‘ without rights’ to each of your self descriptions because women were all those things AND HAD NO RIGHTS/AGENCY/SELF DETERMINATION unless their men folk granted it. That’s what feminism is. It isn’t about nationality (Canada), it isn’t political (socialism), it isn’t religious ( secular humanist), it isn’t about characteristics ( procrastinator), it isn’t about education ( student), it isn’t about the condition of your womb ( child free).
For centuries women could be all those things and still have no rights. Rich/ aristocratic women and a lucky few not in those social classes were highly educated and treated better, yet they still had no rights, agency or self determination. There are women in parts of the world who could be described very much in your words who still have no rights, agency or self determination unless their menfolk grant it.
And if you still don’t understand it, let’s use civil rights as an example.
You can be a all the things you described, and still not have civil rights. Oh wait, many people still have no civil rights yet claim all that you say.
Et tu, Brute?
I came here to say something nasty about SJP and her thought on feminism. But I will rather focus on the positive ans say I like that pink outfit. It would look good on a feminist, for example on me:)
Uh oh, SJP basically just said, “All lives matter.”
I expected better from her, ugh.
I’m not even sure what the hell she’s saying in that answer about feminism.
aaaand we are back to condemning women who don’t want to be labeled as feminist. i’ve missed this about you Celebitchy <3 god forbid women not associate with that label and have their own beliefs, amirite? 🙂
Ummm, Sarah, DUDE! You just defined feminism when you said you believe everyone should be equal. BAM, that is the definition of feminism. (I thought she was way smarter than this interview portrays her)
“I believe in women and I believe in equality”
OK, then you’re a feminist.
Hmm, it depends on how she means her wording. Does she mean she hates the word “feminist” in that she thinks women’s quality isn’t a very real issue on its own, or does she dislike that women have to be separated from a larger group of issues that contribute to their inequality?
Well, if you think about it..she really doesnt qualify! She was on a show with all independent single women, making 3.2 million an episode by the third season…not much discrimination there id say!
Wow. For some reason I thought SJP was smarter than that. Being a feminist does not separate people; any decent man considers himself one too.
Easy to say when you’ve banked millions from a TV series SJP. Now let me give you the finger as we fade to black ….,
I’m not sure why anyone ever “respected” SJP or thought that she was intelligent? I’ve read very few interviews w her, granted, but she came across as direly self absorbed and highly insulated in all of them. Yes, she was in a popular, highly acclaimed T.V. series, but that wasn’t her: she was just reading a script, other people’s words; it was no reflection of her own intellect at all. I’m not surprised that this image obsessed, superficial seeming woman does not find the word “feminist” attractive or appealing enough to understand that, at heart, she is basically one, too…I’m not disappointed in someone I never had any reason to admire or respect. My expectations for the “wisdom” or insight of Hollywood celebrities is very low–which makes it all the more rewarding when, at rare times, I am pleasantly surprised by some of them…