Johnny Depp has some really loyal friends. Dude friends. Bro friends. Bros-before-hos friends. Depp’s bros like Benicio del Toro, Terry Gilliam and Tim Burton have all defended Depp, explicitly or implicitly, in the wake of Amber Heard’s accusations of abuse. Considering that the divorce has been finalized and everything is done, I was hoping that we would stop hearing from Depp’s bros completely. I mean, what’s done is done. Amber got out, and hopefully her actions served to warn the next woman in Depp’s life. But Depp’s bros just can’t help themselves. The latest Brosef to step up for Team Depp 4-Eva is Marilyn Manson. Marilyn and Johnny have known each other for years/decades. They are friends. They’ve performed together. Marilyn is godfather to Johnny’s daughter. So in a new interview, Marilyn stepped up to the plate for Depp:
Now Marilyn Manson, a longtime friend of Depp’s who’s said he’s “like a brother to me,” is godfather to Depp’s daughter Lily-Rose, and who shares a skeleton tattoo with the actor from Baudelaire’s Les Fleurs du mal, has given his two cents on the split. In an interview with The Daily Beast for a longer profile to run next week tied to his creepy upcoming role in the WGN drama Salem, the musician and artist stood by Depp, claiming that his pal was “crucified” by Heard in the press.
“Lily-Rose is my goddaughter and I was there when [his son] Jack was born, so we go back,” said Manson. “Johnny is one of the nicest people that I know—to the extent where it’s almost heartbreaking how kind he is to his friends, and everyone around him. I know that he was completely crucified—unjustly.”
“I would stand by him on anything,” Manson continued. “As my friend, I know that he’s handling it the best he can and he’s a great Dad, too. It fills me with joy to see his kids grow up and be so smart, and so hilarious. We played a show together not too long ago. It’s hard to say when you talk about your friends. Of course I think that all of it was bullsh-t, and I think that he is a great person. I wouldn’t agree with any of it if someone were to put me on the stand and ask me what I know, or what I’ve witnessed.”
Here’s what I don’t understand: one, how do celebrities still not understand how to say “no comment”? Two, how do Johnny’s bros not understand that they can simply talk up Johnny without maligning Amber? I don’t think anyone would hold it against one of Depp’s longtime friends if they said, “Look, he’s my friend and he’s been my friend for years. I don’t want to comment about the rest of it.” Why do all of Johnny’s bros have such a hard-on for talking sh-t about Amber, who, let’s be clear, HAD THE RECEIPTS?? We know Depp is awful because she showed us. But the bros don’t care. They still think Amber was “crucifying” Johnny, because… she filed for divorce? Because she tried to handle everything quietly until he publicly maligned her and waged a public campaign to discredit her? Because HE was the one who was “crucified,” right?
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Why did she ask for spousal support and the car, house, etc?
Because she’s was getting divorced and she was still entitled by law to request it? Girl, bye.
She was entitled to money that’s for sure. But her requesting 3 pieces of property he owned for years before her raises a few eyebrows.
Quit trolling. Read some of the previous posts on this story if you’re genuinely oblivious.
TexasB- Probably didn’t file properly, his side probably wanted to wait until discovery was done, there was prob a pre-nup in place, who knows, I’m not her lawyer. But just because she filed doesn’t mean anything, anybody can file, I filed when i got divorced.
Cherry – everyone is allowed to have their own opinion. Even if it is not popular and you disagree. That doesn’t make them a Troll
@CRTB: this isn’t about differing opinions. We ‘ve been discussing this story for ages on this site and we’ve all had our say in it. Madison is deliberately ignoring all that and starts all over again with questioning amber’s motives and golddigging ways. Come on, we are past that, girl has shown the receipts and donated all the money to charity. The only reason to start with the “so why did she ask for money ” questions again is to provoke commenters. I.E.: troll.
I read this site regularly, and know how the majority of posters feel on this issue. Still, it’s a little silly to request someone go back and read all the previous posts before justifying the privilege of commenting. They’re entitled just like everyone else….that doesn’t mean those opinions won’t be skewered by the majority–I just feel the argument of going back and reading previous commentary is ridiculous.
@ maleficant – The OP Madison was asking a question, Cherry answered it and referred her to original posts where the question was examined and answered exhaustively, often by legal professionals who hang around this site. I think directing a poster to the information they require to answer the question they posed is perfectly reasonable and certainly not ridiculous.
I only come on this site about once or twice a week. I feel no need to keep up with previous post, discussions and opinions. This is not a homework assignment where I have to read all of the chapters to write my opinion. So what if you have discussed a topic ad nauseum and exhaustively. I am allowed to disagree with people on any topic. Doesn’t give anyone the right to call me a troll or be skewered because I think/feeling differently. (Once of the reasons I have frequented this site less and less.) No respect for others who don’t share the majority’s opinion. Who are you to accuse a person of provoking because they asked a question? The only Trolls I see are those people who are intolerant of people who think differently.
You tell me lol. The situation is so weird that I still can’t hold my breath about neither of them. It’s not black and white.May they both move on and leave this mess behind. They both acted very questionable during these months that’s for sure. I really wanted this case to go to court so that we could learn the actual facts. What else did she have on him and what did he have on her? We’ll never know.
It’s not black and white? Bruises, video, text, that’s not enough for you? He wasn’t walking around bruised
Um, what was questionable about Amber? The money she didn’t accept a dime of?
She asked for the same thing anyone would ask for whilst divorcing.
Her asking for her basic rights does not allow any inference to be drawn
Oh my god, this crap again? Because you have to file at the beginning of divorce proceedings, even if you withdraw the request later on, otherwise you may end up with nothing. Amber did exactly what any lawyer would advise their client to do. Now can we put this stupid insinuation to bed please?
Cause she is gonna need it since she won’t work again, thanks to Johnny’s team.
Are you bored? We’ve discussed this ad nauseam on this site. If my husband throws sh*t at me and does who knows what else, you best believe I’m taking some stuff when I leave. Why wouldn’t she?
I agree. No divorce ever involves a financial settlement, ever. It was this totally surreal and unprecedented demand. And when golddigging it’s always wise to be married a very short time and have no kids. And to have zero evidence of the abuse you’re claiming, because then everyone will believe you.
Dude, wtf are you even talking about, no financial settlements? Yeah they do. Most are not on such a grand scale or so publicized, but in a divorce any time ne person gets money or debt is divvied up, that’s a financial settlement.
These aren’t even big words or legal jargon.. . Is English not your first language? Because that’s the only way I can figure you don’t grasp these definitions.
Beer&crumpets
K2 is being sarcastic
MY BAD! I’m sorry. I really didn’t catch the tone. That so many people have posted so much stupid Shit doesn’t help. 😔
Because when you get divorced, your lawyer throws everything against the wall knowing that not everything is going to stick. It’s a strategy, like if you’re selling shit at a yard sale. You start off on the high end knowing that everyone is going to wanna bargain- to start off on the low end- to get you to lower your price. Divorce lawyers start off wanting everything for their clients so they have room to negotiate.
Considering that Depp went into Heard’s room and destroyed her possessions during one of his rages, tried to kill her in her sleep, was defended by two of her neighbors while she was on the ground as he kept trying to kick her while his security team looked on, as well as the other horrors that she went through with, this beyond abusive, murderous addict – i.e. the video of him raging and screaming at her, pics of him cutting off his finger and who knows what else – Depp should be in jail. And he’s so lucky he’s not. He and his friends should just STFU.
Then she gets a just and agreed upon settlement which he can well afford, which she turns around and gives to charity. Not exactly a greedy move, is it. And even though he still tries to fuck with her, she makes a statement that she’s moving on with the rest of her life. She’s no longer under Depp’s control and he hates it. And yes his “friends” are absolutely disgusting as well. There is no damage control that fix his image, though Heard was smeared throughout. Unbelievable, but still true that a victim of DV has to prove their innocence. But she has the witnesses and the evidence – enough to sink Depp. If he hadn’t pushed it so far, it never would have come to this. But like many if not all abusers – he would not take responsibility for his actions. And now he needs Marilyn Manson to defend him? That’s so pathetic it’s almost amusing. Damn, just leave this woman alone!
And to clarify what I mean about with his “damage control”, it has been the constant portrayal of Depp as some sort of passionate, possessive, wild, yet caring and (ugh) sensitive, intellectual, individual – while Heard has been called by his friends and fans alike as a crazy, greedy, manipulative, lying, slut, and cheater “who pushes his buttons” and WTF does that even mean? I suppose that Kate Moss did that as well, as he destroyed the hotel room they were in? The cruelty of these people and Depp towards Heard is sickening. And misogynistic beyond belief. It also appears to be unending. Give it up already people. You are supporting abuse in all its forms.
Heard’s evidence clearly shows him as the raging, burned out, horror that he truly is. His exterior now shows the hate filled abuser that was always there inside him. And with her video, pictures, evidence and witnesses Heard has finally proven it. Funny thing isn’t it, that she was dragged through more than seven hours in her deposition? Then to avoid his, Depp finally folded and settled. No surprise there. It might be a little difficult to explain how he lost part of his finger! As well as every other abusive thing he had done to her. Believe me, judges look at cases in a very clear manner, so statements like “she pushed his buttons” would absolutely not be looked at as a defense of his actions. Case closed. This woman won her freedom back, her very life. She is one brave woman and I for one admire her.
+1
Chubby middle aged men without chins probably shouldnt keep insisting on goth makeup. Honestly, people are always riding Madonna while this continues to “rocknroll”? At least Madonna doesn’t wade into DV cases to defend somebody she has never lived with.
MocknRoll because it’s clearly a mockery of whatever was once cool for him just isn’t. The gimmick is over Marilyn Manson. Nice name, I’m sure you don’t have any misogynistic leanings.
Johnny’s bros are not so clean as a whistle themselves when dealing with women, so having them in his corner doesn’t prove or say much except JD surrounds himself with asshats.
I used to be intrigued by this whole “Oh, actually I’m an intellectual shtick” but it is wearing thin. First it was learning how he treated groupies, then I just watched an interview where the female interviewer might as well have sued him for harrassment with him at one point drawing an ejaculating penis into her direction during the interview and now this…he is showing who he really is.
Yeah, Manson occasionally trots that out, but I’ve actually thought that was in response to his substance abuse issues and other problems. Like, he can’t possibly have a problem, see? He’s too smart and special! When he’s really just another sleaze bag musician who can put together a coherent thought when necessary.
@thaliasghost, @bridget-
He has some serious substance abuse and misogyny problems. I heard him and Billy Corgan on satellite radio joint interview on their End Times Tour some time ago- there’s a youtube video by A.V.Club- he’s a hot mess, and their (especially MM) blatant disrespect for women shines through. Really turned me off their music, and I used to love the Smashing Pumpkins, and thought MM churned out some good stuff, too. No more.
Given that interview, it really doesn’t surprise me that he would take such a dude-bro support position for JD, after all, misogynists of a feather flock together- they have to because their disrespect is rooted in fear of women.
That’s the thing. Manson is a nasty piece of work. The fact that Depp’s even friends with him in the first place doesn’t speak well of Depp.
I go back to Dita Von Teese leaving him on Christmas Eve and just walking away and not looking back.
True. I used to have some respect for Brian Warner . Now I feel creeps towards him and am pretty sure he will probably try hitting on his goddaughter. These guys do not respect women, and are the worst bc they are the first to criticize others of being unjust or judgmental, etc. They just think they are above everyone.
Just how does a self-professed satanist become a godparent in the first place? Isn’t that a conflict of interest?
Omg @naya!!! This! This! This! He looks more ridiculous than mid-life-cry-sis JD! He’s like a parody. Step away from the make-up. It’s time to grow up. Even Kiss and Alice Cooper stopped with the Makeup. Watch the Sean Penn movie that parodies Robert Smith. That’s how ridiculous you look Marylin.
Alice still wears make-up.
Lol next to M. M. Depp magically looks hot again! Hahaha I think I understand why they are friends!
Not to split hairs, but doesn’t Madonna defend Sean Penn?
For the record, I’m no fan of MM. I think he’s icky. He and Madonna can retire together.
These guys are contributing to the stigma that abuse victims face. Why many do not come foward because they will not only be believed but also maligned by the people close to the person committing this despicable act. Do not have any respect for these people anymore.
I think the reason they never say “He’s a great friend. I don’t want to comment on the other thing.” is because that sort of implies that they believe the other person and they, as friends, do not want that.
At least he specifically said that HE thinks it’s bullshit, not claiming that it has to be the universal truth.
Eh, Johnny, I used to like you. What happened, you (passive-)aggressive schmuck?
I wouldn’t even ask these men for directions.
He looks like Nicholas Cage, crossed with Frank N Furter. Time to step away from the dressing up box Manson, you silly boy.
Its depressing that in this day and age, an abused Woman is perceived as being at fault, simply for standing up for herself.
These guys haven’t aged well, have they? Put the Maybelline, Jack Daniels, and Hot Topic cards down guys. it’s like the picture of Dorian Gray–their outsides are finally matching what’s inside.
Cool story, bro. Now STFU.
He never says he thinks it didn’t happen, just that “it’s bullsh!t.” I tend to think this guy, along with JD, have a very twisted idea of what is and is not abuse. He probably thought Amber was perfectly cool with their “passionate” relationship and thinks it’s “bullsh!t” that she decided to call JD out.
I’m a former JD fan, and there are still times I wish this didn’t happen. But it did, and we know who he really is now. It sucks but it is what it is. I’m glad Amber got out.
I don’t hate his answer either. He actually says that “it’s hard to say when you talk about your friend” which I take as meaning that it’s hard to believe stuff like that of a friend.
He also says that he doesn’t believe it based on what he has seen and what he knows of his life.
I think that’s fair enough. He didn’t drag Amber. He said based on his long friendship with Johnny he doesn’t believe it.
Also he didn’t say that Amber crucified him. He said Johnny was crucified which could as well mean the reports in the media.
I’m going to leave the commentary about his look in these photographs and all our heads
Unless Manson lived with Depp and Heard he has literally no idea about their relationship.
It is clear that Depp was abusive to Heard. That is difficult to hear as a fan of Depp’s let alone a friend and so I have empathy with him. Facts are facts however.
I am glad that Heard survived her relationship with Depp as so many ( mainly women ) do not survive a relationship where there is DVA. I hope she is allowed to move forward with her life with dignity.
She has a domestic abuse claim by a former partner.
And your point is??…..
This bears no relevance in the matter of his dva against her.
It was trotted out to try to victim blame and shame but has no bearing on the abuse he caused her to suffer
Well, what we can take from this is that we all really are judged by the company we keep.
Didn’t Johnny disappear from amber and she went looking for him? And he had gone to Marilyn’s house and holed up with him doing drugs together? I swear, I think I heard something like that while they were together? Allegedly
Yes. After he sliced off his fingertip, he holed up at Marilyn’s for days and even Disney didn’t know where he was.
omg The both of them are gross… They need to wash there faces!!! I hope Disney cans him! Both od them are cocaine users ugh
I love on twitter when retired dective Lt Kenda had t say, the jd fans got so mad! ” ladies if your partner reaches for a bottle first thing in the morning run run far away!” Jd fans are in la la land!
Here’s the deal: You can love someone who does bad things. Terrible things, even.
I went down the rabbit hole this weekend and read a bunch of old stories about rape stastics and not owing anyone anything and all. One of the points made is that you probably know at least one person who raped someone.
And I think that would apply here too. It’s totally possible to know people who commit domestic abuse. It’s even more possible to love and cherish these people. But don’t defend them for what they did. You are not helping them. If you love them, get them help. Make them see justice. Show their victims compassion. Leave them, if you can’t justify still being a friend. But do not do what he is doing. Y’all can be friends, but this shiz never helps anyone. Not the victim, not the families, and definitely not your loved person.
@G
Well said.
Great brave comment @G
God, he is so gross. And he surrounds himself with other wax melting figures. ick, spray them both with RAID.
marilyn manson still walks around like that, huh
He wasn’t there, so he cannot say definitively what happened. I have no problem with him trying to be supportive friend, but there are ways to do that without bashing Amber. And if he’s really a friend, he should see the downward spiral that Johnny has been on, and urge him to get help.
On a side note, I have serious secondhand embarrassment for him and the look he continues to try to sport.
I don’t. That’s his look, good or bad, that’s all him.
Do you feel the same way about Grace Jones?
I don’t expect them to change something they have been rocking for decades. Marilyn Manson is stage make up and shock rock. Why would that change now and who would come to his shows if he was makeup-less plain faced Brian warner.
He looks better with all that makeup anyway.
Their friendship is fueled by addiction and excess, so I’m not surprised he’s in in denial too. Just because he knows the kids doesn’t mean he’s a wholesome, stable influence.
An endorsement from Marilyn Manson? That says it all.
Depp is his own victim, and he CHOSE to victimize Amber further by trying to tarnish her reputation and autonomy in the press. Because actually hitting her and maligning her was not enough. That’s the kind of man Johnny Depp is.
Mr. Warner, would you please sit down now and shut up? Thank you.
Somehow the opinion of a man who made a music video where he violently murders an Evan Rachel Wood lookalike, doesn’t change my opinion about Depp. I still think Depp abused Amber Heard.
Yeaaaaah, I was always creeped out by Manson and Evan Rachel Wood. The age difference didn’t help, but it just looked so unhealthy.
I always thought he preyed on ERW, she was 19 and he tried to remake her into his ex-wife. Something bad had to have happened for Dita to have left him on Christmas Eve, and she just walked away from everything that had to do with him.
Having a tattoo from Baudelaire’s les Fleurs de Mal makes you, like, soooo deep.
Don’t leave candles in a hot car. The resulting melted mess is just not worth saving.
I am waiting for one of his friends to really say when they mean. Not that Johnny didn’t BEAT Amber, but that they simply don’t care that he did.
They’ve seen the video and photos. Why don’t they say what they really mean- that Johnny beat Amber b/c “she started it”, “she had it coming”, “she shouldn’t have made him angry”, etc.
Isn’t that what all of his friends really want to say?
Gross.
THIS. What they really mean to say: “Sure, he hit Amber, but you don’t understand what a beautiful crazy b!tch can do to a great guy like Johnny.”
“Yeah, I hit her, but I didn’t hit her more than the average guy beats his wife.” –Ike Turner
well with the number of weird pple that depp surrounds himself with it wd explain a lot – most of his ” friends ” have issues with drugs/alcohol and with women – besides why sd mm even comment if the divorce is over and done with – he sd just have not commented – at all unless he needed publicity
I guess I get it—you stick up for your Ride or Dies, your best friends, because you don’t want to believe or even entertain the idea that they could be guilty of comitting these heinous acts….. unfortunately, they’re doing more damage than good.
Considering what a creep Marilyn Manson is, this isn’t exactly a ringing endorsement.
Marilyn Manson is one of the many enablers Johnny Depp’s sorrounded by. At the time Johnny was supposedly to be clean and sober and full in love-mood with Amber, he was papped with Marilyn Manson leaving Lily-Rose at her school but walking with a weed pipe on his hand like nothing. Which kind of creep brings his children to school with a weed pipe on his hand? but more than that shows the kind of support Marilyn and Johnny give to each other, enablers
About “crucifixion” the saddest part is that Depp wasn’t nearly as crucified as Amber was…and Amber was the victim and it could be years before she really get over this nightmare
Depp isn’t the victim and he wasn’t the one unjustly crucified here
He’s not exactly a shining example himself when it comes to women. Furthermore, this just illustrates once again that Manson, Depp, del Toro, et al think the world revolves around them, their wants and needs, and that it is the women who got it wrong.
Don’t forget Mickey Rourke! It was hilarious when Rourke, who famously SHOT Carre Otis during their marriage, defended his pal against AH’s DV allegations.
#toxicboysclub
I questioned Amber before they got married and I don’t know if the abuse is true, or not. I have a male friend whose ex hated him, so much, that she accused him of abuse, child abuse, verbal abuse, etc. The claims made him so sick that it went to court and he won custody of their son because his ex was a nut job. I’ve known a few women who would stop at nothing to discredit a man they once loved and now hate. I know of one woman who fell and broke her arm and was going to accuse her ex of abuse (we’re no longer friends.) I do think abuse happens and I also think that there are some people who are quick to jump on the bandwagon and accuse without knowing the full story. I don’t know if Amber is a nut job and I don’t know if Johnny is a nut job and/or abuser.
Go ahead: accuse me of being a troll.
Not a troll, exactly, more a sad stan still in denial.
At this point, with the huge amount of evidence against Depp (including their own joint statement that essentially admits that he was abusing her) the only way you can think he’s not an abuser is because you’ve decided that you just don’t want to. I wouldn’t brag about that.
Following your words, then It would be like Amber fell like every week to “blame him”…
And which kind of “master manipulator” could do one of HIS own assistants to write texts apologizing for his behaviour and to tell her Johnny was crying when he told him he kicked her? (The assistant, suspiciously, dissapeared after the text messages were declared “real and undoctored”, after claiming he would declare under a oath he was the only of his team who wasn’t included on the list of his witnesses…despite that the texts did were include on her list of evidence. Think about that)
Amber had so much evidence over the years, that to try to blame it all on her trying to discredit him is insane. Either you’re so naive or in denial
And how bad the things must have been that she had to request medical attention for her injuries back in 2014? (and she also had medical records of 2015)
I have known women like that too.I don’t have anything to do with them anymore but they are out there.Makes it hard for women that have had domestic violence.
People like your friend’s ex have a history of lying and usually it comes out, because they’ve bragged about it to people around them. It’s a pattern. Never heard anything like that about Amber at all. She doesn’t fit this pattern and actually has evidence of the abuse. Trying to frame the situation like this isn’t being fair and even-handed even if it may feel that way. Our past experiences bias us to see things a certain way and because of what happened with your friend I can see why you’d have suspicions. But lying about domestic violence is far rarer than experiencing it, and this case has evidence, plus the crazy vibes are coming from Johnny. He’s known for aggression and craziness; Amber has never been painted as a manipulative liar until she claimed domestic abuse. Bias is something everyone needs to take into account when judging other’s situations, and while we can’t know for certain what happened, we can make a pretty good guess based on what’s come out, and it really doesn’t sound like a lying woman case.
Marilyn Manson & Johnny Depp: mutton dresses as lamb.
Marilyn Manson is a misogynist windbag who looks like a toddler who got into his mother’s makeup. His faux intellectual ruse has been up since the early 2000s when he appeared on that conversational show that Jon Favreau had where random celebs chatted over dinner. No one could get a word in edgewise and he was just spewing rubbish and it was clear everyone was exhausted by him. He loves to hear himself talk. When Johnny was still a decent guy in our minds I was really disappointed that he was close to MM. Now I’m not so surprised.
I never saw that but I’m going to look it up now.
I feel like Johnny wavers into cheesy self indulgent ham territory with many of his “intellectual” moments too. Real intellect doesn’t need to say much for itself. I think Marylin is generally more intelligent and well read than Johnny but I think they can both venture into dilettante land from time to time.
Marylin does have a misogynist streak, I’ve always thought. Remember that music video where he’s beating up a girl that looks like Evan Rachel Wood tied to a chair? Because it’s pretty graphic and disturbing. I honestly feel like these two are a couple of coddled rich famous white famous guys blinded by their own money and success, to the point they’ve developed myopia so severe that coke and booze is the only thing that takes the edge off their angst and boredom… But I could be wrong. Too bad. Marylin Manson has written some great songs and Johnny Depp has delivered some great performances in his career. Just kinda grossed out by them both these days.
And yes, bros need to stop talking about her, it’s really high school. Boo hoo poor rich Hollywood white guys martyrs of their own stupidity. Cry me a river. “Crucified?” Give me a break. Gee whiz.
And yeah, when you’re over 40, just take the extra minute to think about your life before you apply the corpse paint…
Charlie Sheen Goes to Hot Topic.
Wow, one faded has-been supporting another! How nice for them…
JD is one of the highest paid actors in the world..
I agree with most of this post, except I don’t think Amber’s tried to handle this privately until Depp’s PR machine came after her. I think that is a bit of an opinion and not really the facts of the case as the letters from the lawyers and the various petitions show. Her lawyers really messed up the quiet part from the get go.
I don’t know why the friends don’t just go with the statement that was released. I think it is fair to say they had a passionate and sometimes volatile relationship that really needed to end for both of them.
I do have to say even though I don’t agree with Marilyn Manson’s statement, it always strikes me odd how such a crazy persona comes off sounding almost intelligent. If he didn’t use the overly dramatic word crucified this statement really wouldn’t have sounded that bad. I would disagree with it, but it is an argument based on his friendship with Johnny and although people on here don’t seem to feel this I do understand how a friend would stick up for their friend.
Says the man who’s been a hard-core drug addict for decades about his hard-core drug addict buddy. Birds of a feather……
Says the man who trotted women around stage on a leash. Bitch please. Actually whats really hurting my heart is the Terry Gilliam bit. I had no idea.
I have been a Python head since I was 8 years old. I have watched every film good and bad (and some of his stuff is REALLY bad, Tide Land, just say no) that he’s ever done.
Forty flippin’ years I have been praising this guy, telling people who he was. and preaching his genius. I am disgusted and sad. I of all people should understand that celebs are human (waited on them for 10 years) but this one breaks my heart. Tim Burton too.
Just…..crap. This really sucks