Duchess Kate will probably be pregnant ‘by Christmas,’ sources say

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Ever since the Duchess of Cambridge popped out Princess Charlotte and stepped out for a post-delivery photo-op two seconds later like it was no biggie, people have been speculating about Kate’s desire to have a third child. And I’m saying that specifically, Kate’s desire. Not really William’s desire, if previous sources are correct. The tale was, last year, that Kate always wanted three kids and William was fine with two. Kate is one of three siblings, and she’s allegedly wanting to recreate her own family’s three-child dynamic. Now that Charlotte is more than a year old, the rumor mill is still churning out stories about how Kate really wants another baby – especially now that Kate and William have so many scheduled appearances for the fall! A perfect time to have baby (to avoid a bunch of boring royal tours, amirite?).

Anmer Hall may need another nursery. Kate Middleton and Prince William, parents of George, 3, and 16-month-old Charlotte, “want a third baby soon,” a family friend reveals exclusively in the new issue of Us Weekly. “It would not surprise me if they were pregnant by Christmas.”

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are prepared to arrange their calendars accordingly. Should Kate, 34, become pregnant, the source says she and William, 34, will curtail their royal tours in 2017. After all, Kate suffered from hyperemesis gravidarum (a.k.a. acute morning sickness) with the first two pregnancies. The source says the royals would also be cautious because of the spreading Zika virus, which causes birth defects in unborn babies. (Until she’s pregnant, it’s business as usual: They are due in Canada for an official visit from September 24 through October 1.)

The couple would be happy to remain home away from the spotlight. At the 10-bedroom mansion in Norfolk, “their kids are living as normal lives as possible,” says a Middleton family friend. There, George plays with Matchbox cars — “He’s obsessed with anything with an engine,” says a source — while Charlotte shadows Mom. “If Kate is in the study,” says the source, “Charlotte wants to be in the study.”

William and Kate are now eager to add to that idyllic family portrait. “I think they both would have been overwhelmed at the thought of a third child a year ago,” says the friend, “but now it sounds perfect. They’ve both always wanted a big family.”

[From Us Weekly]

Considering the easy-seeming time Kate had with her second pregnancy, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if she did get pregnant sooner rather than later. It’s probably too late for them to suddenly cancel the Canadian tour – plus, they’ve already set it up as a taxpayer-funded vacation – but a sudden pregnancy will be just what the doctor ordered… to get out of work for the rest of the year, and most of 2017. They’ll probably try to get pregnant during the Canadian tour – that timing would work out well! The pregnancy will be announced early as a way to apologize for their very light schedule in November and December, then a quiet Middleton Christmas, and then maybe three brave, keen appearances before giving birth. BAM! I just scheduled the next 12 months of the Cambridges’ royal work.

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  1. Kimma says:

    It’s so sad how much she is not aging well. It’s like her face is turning into silly putty. Must be all that hard work they’re doing every day..

    • Jessie says:

      Laughing maniacally doesn’t do her any favours. She’d be better off putting on some weight.

    • Crux of Seven says:

      She is botoxing as her wrinkles seem to have disappeared. I would conclude that she doesn’t try to get preggers right now because otherwise she wouldn’t botox.

    • Frida says:

      All I see when I look at Kate and Pippa is sun damage. They both look like they’re in their 40s. Sunscreen is your friend.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate looks worse than Pippa though because she has done more extreme dieting. Except during the Botox sessions. Not sure how long they last but if she doesn’t get another round in the fall then I may buy this story of trying for a third child as being true.

    • The Recluse says:

      That’s a scary expression in the first photo: she looks like she’s talking through gnashed teeth.

  2. Sixer says:

    Still. The. Best. Photo. Ever. But what IS she doing in the second one? I shudder to think.

    (But let’s never forget helicopter hair).

    I think this post needs a Liberty story. In which Normal Bill and Katie Bucket carefully arrange marital relations on the basis of reducing the future work schedule as much and as efficiently as possible. Passionate panting optional but not required.

  3. Trixie says:

    I’ve never been pregnant, so will someone please explain why people say “We’re pregnant”/”They’re pregnant” instead of “I’m pregnant”/”She’s pregnant”? I don’t understand why it’s pluralized since only the woman is the pregnant one.

    • Kate says:

      I don’t either! It creeps me out

    • Startup Spouse says:

      I only speak for myself here, but (1) it takes 2 to make dem babies, and (2) for my husband, hearing me say that likely had the psychological impact of making him realize we are in this together even though nothing really changed for him, so he needs to pitch in where he can while I do ALL of the heavy lifting (ie, rub my swollen feet on command, clean up all the dishes, etc.).

    • BeBeA says:

      I think that people want to include the man because in most cases he did help and he is as happy about the baby as the mum, it used to piss me off to no end because I’m the one that looks like a baby baluga with heart burn who can’t sleep at night, and I haven’t seen my feet nor the lady parts that got me in this mess in months, but hey we are pregnant! Lol

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      I understand all this but pregnancy is still a female-only biological state. I still prefer “we’re expecting” which is a psychological state. Men can walk away from pregnancy and women can’t no matter what we say. Women still carry the baby and the risk-I still want to respect that.

      Gay fathers can be expectant, not pregnant, and still understand the responsibility ahead.

      • Alix says:

        ^^^ THANK YOU. “We’re pregnant” is an utterly ridiculous statement, as pregnancy is a physical condition. Unless you’re prepared to go whole-hog and say “We’re vomiting”, “Our breasts are three cup sizes bigger already”, and “We’re five centimeters dilated”, then please spare us.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        Alix, just saw this and cracked up. Very funny.

      • Wurstbonbon says:

        +1

    • Trixie says:

      I understand “We’re expecting” as a way to be inclusive toward the man because it is actually true that both are expecting a baby, but I don’t understand “We’re pregnant” as it’s factually incorrect since biologically only the woman is pregnant.

    • lizzie says:

      i’m pregnant now and we say that i am pregnant and we are expecting. my husband came up with that on his own and i was beaming with pride b/c he is NOT pregnant. his 4-7 min contribution to this doesn’t count for much yet.

      • Adele Dazeem says:

        Bahahaha love this comment. 4-7 minutes. For some guys that is generous, wicked laugh. Made my day thank you!

    • MoochieMom says:

      I threw up for 37 weeks and on bed rest for 12 weeks so “I” was pregnant. I had plastic surgery on my torn vag. I was pregnant. I was pregnant but “we” have a child and that “we” is happy. I was so tired of “I” and all that.

    • Coco says:

      I don’t think it’s such a big deal whether you say “I” or “We”. It’s whatever feels right to you. Sometimes saying “we” is as much for me psychologically as it is for him because we are a team preparing for birth and parenthood together. I’m 37 weeks pregnant and switch back and forth from “I” to “we” but my husband always points out that I’m constantly multitasking because no matter what I’m doing that day, I’m still the one growing a tiny human.

    • sequinedheart says:

      When I was pregnant, I made it damn clear to everyone that I was the one carrying and growing the child but we did refer to ourselves as a couple when letting people know “we’re gaving a baby” because we both are going to have one. in our lives. and arms. I’m pregnant, we’re having a baby. simple.

      we’re pregnant always and still does freak me the eff out. no, my husband was not pregnant.

  4. Betti says:

    A few people on this board commented that she’d be pregnant for Pippa’s wedding (given the sibling competitiveness that seems to be prevalent with the Mids i wouldn’t be surprised if this happens, Pippa did seem to upstage Kate at her own wedding) – seems this is now highly likely, plus wasn’t George a similar age when she became preggers the 2nd time? Given that she looks like she’s put on some weight she’s either pregnant (very early) or will be soon enough.

    ITA that she seemed to have an easy 2nd one, where again the HG narrative was played up to excuse her laziness.

    • Crux of Seven says:

      Her less harsh facial features might be due to weight gain or due to botox or due to fillers. Just saying.

    • Kitty says:

      Didn’t she drink whisky on an engagement though?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Yes. She was also photographed with a bottle of white wine at a restaurant when she was in the early stages of Baby #2, about a week before they allegedly found out. William was photographed with red, so the white was all her. If you’re actively trying, would you be drinking alcohol?

      • Cupcake says:

        It’s OK to drink while you are trying to conceive (unless you find that alcohol inhibits ovulation for you). You don’t have to live like a pregnant person until you miss your period and get a positive pregnancy test.

      • LizLemonGotMarried says:

        Per my bestie and her medical degree, that first 4-6 weeks, even if you were boozing it up, it’s not going to hurt the baby one single bit. You just have to stop once you’re far enough along to find out.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        We still need to learn more about the impact of alcohol even early in pregnancy. There is currently no known safe amount.

        http://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/qa-understanding-fetal-alcohol-spectrum-disorders/

        http://time.com/3342053/this-is-your-childs-brain-on-alcohol/

        Is a drink really worth it?

      • Tina says:

        I don’t think anyone would say that a drink is really worth it and no one would advise going out and getting blitzed every night if you’re trying to get pregnant, but there’s no point in scaring people unduly either. The chances of a child having FASD if the mother has a few drinks in early pregnancy and then stops are vanishingly small (I would say non-existent).

      • cath says:

        A white wine spritzer not a ‘bottle of white wine” notasugar…

      • notasugarhere says:

        The “white wine spritzer” was heresay, no evidence of it. The photos taken through the window of the pub show William drinking a glass of red while she’s lifting a bottle of white to pour herself a glass. Your guess as to whether or not you can read the label and prove it is or is not alcoholic.

        Privacy obsessed William lets them be seated at a bright spot next to the window, plays happy couple, and doesn’t complain about the pap photos. Obvious PR is obvious.

    • Snarkweek says:

      The sisters have no sibling rivalry that I’ve ever seen.

      • graymatters says:

        I assume you’re either being reasonable and fair by commenting that the rivalry stories are all heresay, or that you’re being true to your name and snarky.

        For anyone interested in an abridged version of the rivalry gossip…

        Pre-wedding, it was reported that Pippa and Kate, although close and loving sisters, competed in terms of who could be the thinnest and tannest.

        Wedding timeframe the storyline was that Duchess Kate had set the bar for her sister, who needed to become Duchess Pippa.

        Post-wedding it was PIppa would “win” by having a glamourous, free-wheeling career unlike Princess Kate stuck in her royal prison of protocol and duty.

        Now Pippa gets the blingy, more expensive ring, the independently wealthy husband, and a possible future title (per DM reporting). Recently, Kate’s heiney was declared as news-worthy as her sister’s.

        Pippa’s wedding will be compared to Kate’s, as will her pregnancies, and how quickly she loses the baby weight.

        I have no idea how the women themselves view each other, but I find the competitive dieting and tanning to be a realistic possibility

      • Snarkweek says:

        I don’t believe they are competitive in the least. I believe media has something to gain by asserting that they are but even they are having trouble coming up with a believable narrative. Kate and Pippa are notoriously close. As for the pre-wedding competition rumors it was also rumored that Pippa and William tried to stage a dieting intervention for Kate in Anglessey because she was becoming very thin. So much for gossip, then, as it comes from all sides and can be interpreted a thousand ways. No evidence of competition, imo.

      • graymatters says:

        True. I imagine competitive sisters generate more clicks than supportive ones. And women who share nutritional information, meals, and vacations are likely to be similarly slim and tanned. It would be nice to see them together again, though. I can’t remember seeing many pictures of them together post-wedding. Shopping for Pippa’s new home or trousseau (is that a thing?) together would generate clicks as well, and shift the conversation away from jealous and competitive.

      • Snarkweek says:

        I agree! That would be refreshing, i also look forward to seeing Pippa and her soon to be husband in parent mode.

  5. Bex says:

    The phrase ‘they’re pregnant’ sets my teeth on edge. When did this become a thing? I’ve only just begun to hear it in real life. Sorry, irrational pet peeve :p

    • Sixer says:

      I think you can say “we are expecting a baby” but you really cannot say “we are pregnant”.

      • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

        But Sixer wouldn’t it be great if it was the guys being pregnant… No nauseas, no swollen ankles, no morning sickness, no pain for us… Medicine should make that possible…

      • Bex says:

        Exactly! It drives me nuts. The men aren’t the ones who have to grow and then push out a small human being. It also annoys the grammar pedant in me. I’d never heard anybody except celebs say it until quite recently.

      • Sixer says:

        I bloody hated being pregnant. Terrible state of affairs. By week 6, my expecting was all about it ending and nothing about getting a baby. I’d ceased to give any thought to the eventual baby. Pregnancy sucks. I. Did. Not. Bloom. Also, I had to be induced both times. It was like there was an Evil Pregnancy Devil out to get me.

        I liked the babies when they finally arrived, thank heavens.

        Yes! Men should have them.

      • LAK says:

        I have pregnancy phobia. i recognise the irrationality of my phobia, i still won’t go there.

        Pregnancy stories add to my phobia. And that’s before you get to the birthing stories. More phobia.

        I’m so grateful for surrogate and adoption options. Babies without getting pregnant myself. Result!

        Not to mention being an auntie to all my siblings and friends’ babies.

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        Yes thank you! My thoughts on this earlier in Comments.

        It’s not like each partner is half pregnant.

      • Kasia says:

        I am currently pregnant and I confirm – there’s something very creepy about it. I understand people for not wanting to go there. I am hopeful that once baby is born the inconveniences of pregnancy will seem less disturbing, but at present – I can’t imagine how people could enjoy pregnancy.

      • Crux of Seven says:

        “We are pregnant.”

        —- THIS POSTING MIGHT NOT BE TO EVERYBODY’s TASTE. If you don’t like juicy sex-and-gender-switching satire or if you didn’t like the movie “Junior” with Danny DeVito and Schwarzenegger then don’t continue reading. ——–

        When you hear a man say that we-are-pregnant then give him this little sci-fi fairy dust tale:

        [Give the man an understanding smile]

        “In the near future men will be able to be pregnant.

        [Give the man a little happy eye twinkle]

        because their partner’s uterus including the unborn baby will be implanted into their stomach temporarily. It is like a heart transplantation and then immunosuppressive medication and hormones. Then the man can carry the baby to term and then there will be a caesarian.

        [You may gently pat the man’s back]

        Can you imagine that? Isn’t it great? Men are so much stronger and they are much better suited to carry a baby to term.

        [Give the man a calming smile]

        Oh the effects of the hormones are reversible. But if you keep taking the hormones you will even be able to breastfeed the little one.

        [Give the man a knowing smile to his upper chest area]

        Isn’t that wonderful? You would be able to breastfeed a baby! Just imagine it: a little bundle in your arms sucking milk from your tits. You know naturally men do have mammary glands, too.”

        [Totally innocent smile into the “we-are-pregnant” man’s face.]

        —— This is satire and does not describe any really exsiting scientific experiment. —-

    • Matomedah says:

      +1 Bex. I had preeclampsia, I gained the weight, I went through painful labor and painful recovery and torn private parts. There’s no “we” there and my husband knew that lol. And now there can be a “we,” as in “we have kids.” But “we” in regard to pregnancy is a big no

  6. Emily says:

    What on earth does Kate do in her “study”?

    • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

      Reads what social media say about her?

    • PHAKSI says:

      Plan where and how she will next flash us? Order wiglets online? Photoshop pics of herself so she has Diana’s hairstyle (#SingleWhiteFemaleDiana)

      • graymatters says:

        I commented before I saw yours, but yeah, I forgot about online shopping. I don’t know that she would want to spend much time reading what social media says about her, unless she only has the sugar sites bookmarked. When I saw the engagement interview and heard that she only cares what WIlliam thinks about her, I assumed she meant that she didn’t pay any attention to critics, online or otherwise. I guess I’ve always assumed since then that she ignored online commentary. It would explain why it takes so long for the Cambridges to respond to public opinion — they wait until a brave flunky who has reviewed the comments finally mentions something to the right royal ear.

    • COSquared says:

      Seriously, haven’t we read something similar from an article a few months past? Getting a major case of deja vu while reading that.

    • Betti says:

      Reads scientific journals on childrens mental health issues.

  7. Citresse says:

    Remember Kate and William avoided Rio so yeah, there’s probably a good chance they’ll have a third baby.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I don’t think they would have gone to Rio even without Zika. They were only unofficial “ambassadors” for the London Olympics and ParaOlympics (which they dogged out on) because it was taking place in London. Anne, and to a lesser extent Edward and Sophie, are usually the BRF representatives at Olympic events.

  8. Goldmama says:

    Trying out her most manic laughter faces in front of little kids so they stay scarred and scarred for life and keep on paying taxes to support their exhausting ultra busy lifestyle. That’s what she is doing in the study. And yes, it is hard work to do those faces perfectly

    • MoochieMom says:

      Those are not faces of a mom who loves kids. Poses, yes. Kid love candid would be way better.

  9. cakecakecake says:

    I feel so silly thinking she already was, I read it somewhere and said congrats several weeks ago. smdh at ME. LOL!

  10. original kay says:

    Her children seem to know her, she seems very engaged with them and for all I see she is a hands on mom. yes she has nannies, blah blah.

    I wonder if she found her niche, finally, in being a mom. that they want to have a close family away from royalty.

    no need for people to comment how wrong I am, I am well aware my opinions about kate and will are so far off the norm on this site it wonders I bother to post 🙂

    But when I look here, I see pain in william. not entitlement. just someone is deep pain who can’t escape it due to his birth rite. and I hope, with kate, he found a way to have the family I think, he’s always wanted.

    Rose tints my world and keeps me safe from trouble and pain ((giggles))

    • notasugarhere says:

      He is not a prisoner. He can walk away at any time, but he walks away with “only” $10 million. He will never walk, however, because he loves the automatic ass-kissing he receives as heir to the throne too much. None of the work, all of the unearned praise, protection, and constant fawning the Golden Child receives.

      • lily says:

        I agree notasugarhere, he’ s not a prisoner.
        The point is in my opinion, that he wants the perks but not the duties of his status, he wants priviledges, money, luxury palaces, but he doesn’ t want to work.
        You can’ t have both ways, if the life of prince is so unbereable for him he should remove himself fro the succession line.
        He will never dop it, he loves too much his priviledges, but he loves complaining too

    • Trixie says:

      I think both can be possible: that William is both entitled and in pain. If he really wanted to escape, he could. But he would have to give up all the perks of being a royal: money, flexibility in schedule, power, etc. I think William is too entitled to give up his royal privileges, but is also in pain at having to deal with the responsibility that comes with those privileges. So yeah, he’s both.

    • Goldmama says:

      I agree with you, that they are happiest as a private family. The only problem I have with them is that they are living off tax payers money. Families who have to leave their 3 months old babies and younger at a nursery to go back to work. We all would love to stay home with our children and watch them grow up 24/7 but hardly anyone can. If they so don’t want to be in the public eye and be royals, so simply step back, move to a normal house and have a normal life including a normal job, but not on taxpayers money. There are enough holes to mend with taxpayers money.its not like in The UK we have oodles and bundles of money left over and milk and honey are flowing everywhere so the royals can play happy family with whatever is left over. And this is why they are so scrutinised. You can’t have the cake and eat it at the same time and being still unhappy for whatever reason while doing so. Life is not a fairy tale and they should both wake up and grow up. He is not the only human being growing up in a broken family…

    • Mamunia says:

      I see both sides. Yes William is in pain, he clearly does not want to be king or even prince. The problem is he wants all of the benefits and is unwilling to give them up. Also, the very real outcome is banishment from England and his family, as happened to the previous king who abdicated. He has a tortured relationship with his father which he cannot work out. I cannot blame him for this. For years Diana let him in on how much Charles was hurting her with his affair with Camilla. Now his mother’s dead and Camilla gets everything. And his father is insisting that he be publicly happy about it! He needs therapy so he can enjoy life of privilege he has been born into. That being said, he has no sense of duty, which is maddening considering his life of extreme privilege.

      • Betti says:

        Edward was banished for many reasons – the main one being a security threat as he was a Nazi sympathiser (he was a massive Hitler fanboy) who is alleged to have passed state secrets to the Nazis before, during and after his term as King. Plus he still wanted to have a public role and its really not appropriate to have 2 Kings ‘working’ for the country, he would have undermined his brother. Its said that he didn’t actually want to abdicate but was forced to by the Gov at the time – Hitler was going to put him back on the throne when the conquered the UK. Wallis was the scapegoat to cover the fact that Edward was a traitor to his country.

        At this stage Onslow (Willy) can easily walk away and live quietly in the country if he wanted to – all he has to do is give up his place (and that of his children) in the line of succession. It would take an act of parliament but it can be done if he really wanted it – he doesn’t. As others have said he wants all the wealth and privilege that comes with his status plus there is no way in hell his wife and her family will let him ruin their ambitions for getting their grabbing hands on the throne. Kate wants to be Queen Consort and Carole desperately wants a title that reflects her status as Royal Grandmother/MIL to a King.

      • notasugarhere says:

        W&K’s relationship started through cheating. She warned Harry’s girlfriend that cheating comes with the territory. She only publicly called William out on his behavior flirting (and taking other women back to his barracks for overnights) when it was seen because it embarrassed her. They live in the house where Charles and Camilla used to meet, instead of the house Charles bought them years ago near Highgrove.

        I don’t think William has a big problem with infidelity, either his own or his father’s. Please do not forget, the stories we were told about William being his mother’s confidant? Diana wasn’t known for always telling the truth AND the boys were away at boarding school the majority of the War of the Waleses.

        So much leeway is given to William because of Diana, and he’ll take every mile of it people will give him. Excuses excuses excuses.

      • Snarkweek says:

        William’s views on fidelity have very little to do with how he dealth with the actual aftermath of his parents’ infidelity. In addition, it shouldn’t be assumed that everyone believes anything Diana ever said. A multitude of sources can contribute to an opinion or a belief.

    • joannie says:

      Original Kay, thank you for making the most sensible comment on here. It’s nice to read one that isn’t consumed with jealousy and downright mean.

      • Deedee says:

        One doesn’t have to be consumed with jealousy or meaness to not like the vacuous Duchess of Cashbridge and WillNot the Terrible. If they put a real effort into doing their jobs, did them cheerfully and not just when cameras are rolling, and went out to their charities on a regular basis, then they wouldn’t draw so much criticism.

      • Sarah says:

        Joanie, for you to characterize people who criticize this amazingly entitled and lazy couple is very mean yourself. Jealous? Really? Who would want to be married to Will, that entitled spoiled ManChild??? And I think her life with him isn’t easy. But she’s still lazy and useless.

        You call those who criticize a rich lazy woman mean and jealous, but you attack people directly. Do you see the irony here?

      • Tina says:

        She has a right to her opinion, and I have a right to resent it. I am not at all jealous of Kate, and I do not consider it mean to criticise someone who uses so much money that belongs to the people of my country.

    • Sarah says:

      Oh, boo hoo. There are people living under bridges in India right now, children, kids being blown up. Yes, he lost his mother in a tragic way, but he has a family that loves him, food, a warm house, and access to psychological help of the caliber that most humans could only dream of. He needs to stop feeling sorry for himself and get some help. If he’s in such pain that he can’t do it, people like Carole need to help him. Or he’s going to be miserable his whole life.

  11. graymatters says:

    The only news in this story is that Kate goes into her study. It must be the last room to be decorated.

    Maybe this means they’ll be moving soon.

    • Deedee says:

      I’m imagining that beige study with a moat and a high fence to keep Charlotte from getting in there with Kate. The story only says Charlotte wants to be in there with Kate, not that she’s actually with her.

  12. Redgrl says:

    You know, given that the taxpayers fund these people, there should be some restraint in the number of kids they have. A pared-down monarchy is their best hope for survival – and producing ever-more “spares” for the public to subsidize is not helping… (Feeling particularly hostile – not enough coffee yet…)

    • Trixie says:

      Okay… as long as you say the same thing about people on welfare.

      • Sixer says:

        Why? People on welfare are in need for various reasons: unable to get a job because of economic conditions; living with disabilities; needing to bring up children with at least a decent standard of living, etc.

        Without tax-payer subsidies, these two are more than capable of supporting themselves through private family wealth, let alone work.

        A constitutional monarchy has a compact with its citizens. And if its citizens feel the compact, in terms of public duty, are not being met, they are perfectly at liberty to describe the monarchical members as scroungers. Because they are not in need and are therefore scrounging.

        Decent societies look after people who are unable, for various reasons, not always permanent, to look after themselves. Not wealthy, privileged people, who are able to look after themselves.

      • Trixie says:

        @sixer:

        Because they are also living off the taxpayer.

        If being taxpayer-funded is the reason people should have to have restraint in the number of children they have, then it must apply to all taxpayer-funded peoples.

        If you want to say that it’s not specifically about the fact that the royals are taxpayer-funded but the fact that they don’t “need” taxpayer money to support themselves, then that’s a different argument.

      • Tina says:

        @Trixie, our government is limiting child benefit to two children per family for all children born after April 2017. So we do have the kind of limits you are describing.

      • Redgrl says:

        Trixie – that’s a whole separate debate…

      • perplexed says:

        “If being taxpayer-funded is the reason people should have to have restraint in the number of children they have, then it must apply to all taxpayer-funded peoples.”

        In Kate and William’s case, they’re actually required to produce children in the form of an heir and a spare. Since having those two children are a requirement (and heck, even just getting married), requesting that they limit the number of children that they have doesn’t sound too off the wall, and actually seems to make sense. Given what William is required to do in terms of marrying and producing 2 kids to keep the chain of inheritance going in a seamless manner, limiting the number of kids he can have sounds practical.

    • LucyHoneychurch says:

      I was thinking this too. I know Diana and Charles’s marriage was basically over by the time Harry was born but they were smart in this one respect to stop at two. No one balks at tax payer money supporting Harry and (potentially) his family because Harry is so likable, he does a lot of charity work, and he’s only one person in addition to William and his family. However, if the monarchy survives past William, will the taxpayers REALLY want to support 3 or 4 grown adults and their spouses and children?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Actually, there is rising criticism of the idea that Harry-and-spouse will be working royals. Many think the BRF needs to pare down even further, following the model of other working royal houses in Europe.

      • Kitty says:

        @notasugarhere, no I do not think that is true. Harry is actually very popular and works. I would love to see him and his future wife be working royals.

      • notasugarhere says:

        He’s popular on here, and on certain royal blogs, but in the real world? The people may want a monarchy as their preferred style of government, but a bloated one with even six employees is too big in many peoples eyes. They do not see his royal engagements as working, they see it as another mouth at the trough.

        Harry was soundly criticized in many places for leaving the Army and choosing to “be on the dole” like the others. Many do not want Harry as a working royal, and make all kinds of statements about him being the next Airmiles Andy. The BRF is on shaky ground, just like all modern monarchies are, and they need to watch every step.

        Most European houses are limiting to four as I said above. The Danish royal house has already announced that only Christian (the heir) will be a working royal. The other three children will be responsible for earning a living elsewhere. Norway and the Netherlands do the same thing.

      • Redgrl says:

        Lucyhoneychurch – exactly re having 3,4,5 additional royals to support –
        for what?

    • Sarah says:

      That was my thought. Sadly, with these parents, another useless royal mouth to feed.

    • my3cents says:

      I was just thinking how many babies they’re going to have to put off actually working?there must be a limit, they can’t continue like this every year and a half?

      • LucyHoneychurch says:

        I could see them having up to four considering the Queen did the same thing. And Kate supposedly loves the idea of having a big family.

  13. Cerys says:

    If rumours about Charlotte’s birth were true (which i doubt) then the surrogate must have recovered enough to go for baby 3. Lol
    I think the article has the time frame spot on. Willie and Waity always do a short burst of engagements then disappear for weeks on end. After the Canada trip they can have a nice rest, get pregnant and that will cover them until well after Christmas, if she gets HG again. Then there will be a few appearances where she totters about on high heels and a bump and then the rest of the year off. I don’t know if she would dare cancel the Canada trip due to HG after all the publicity ahead of it and cancelling the Malta trip when pregnant with Charlotte. Poor Jason would need to put a lot of spin on that one so they are likely to wait until it is over.
    Apparently they are due to have yet another holiday, this time at Balmoral with the Queen. Their trip to Cornwall must have tired them out.

    • Kitty says:

      So you believe that Kate is pregnant?

      • kaiko says:

        does a pregnant Kate Middleton totter about on high heels in short skirts even if no one is there to photograph her?

        Answer: Maybe

    • Betti says:

      She won’t cancel Canada even is she is as its a place she likes – i suspect she used HG to get out of going to Malta as a) she was on her own and b) she didn’t really want to go.

  14. notasugarhere says:

    Harry’s back. Invictus board meeting in London and Regimental dinner at Sandhurst.

  15. Snarkweek says:

    No comment on the Duchess stuff but I like Kate as a mom.

  16. Vinot says:

    Aside from her physical health, I really wonder if William would drag his feet on another baby because of her declining mental health? It would make sense for them to push through for two babies, but a third is unneeded and could compromise her (imo) fragile state. She just seems really unwell all around.

  17. Olenna says:

    The welfare queen of royalty.

  18. abbie normal says:

    My mother would say looking at those photos that Kate looks “unpolished” (sort of just thrown together). Appearances do matter when it is part of your job.
    Ma Carole is being very shortsighted with this situation IMHO. She appears to enable William and Kate in their do-as-little-as-possible lifestyle as well as other other areas of their lives. For the monarchy to continue, it seems to me that they should be earning all the love and good will they can, especially now while Elizabeth II is still alive. Just an American here but there needs to be a monarchy left for Prince George to eventually become king. To encourage healing with William would lessen her power base but would be the best for him personally and professionally…
    Honking for Harry……

  19. Bread and Circuses says:

    Given how famously (and dangerously) pukey she was during her other pregnancies, I’m amazed she’s willing to have another now that she’s got the heir and the spare sorted out.

    • my3cents says:

      Never underestimate how much they want out of “working”- this buys them another year and a half. Of course willnot will need to cut down on his pretend job to be with his kids, and kannot is just permanently on bed rest /maternity leave/raising her children- remember it’s hard they only have one nanny!

      • LucyHoneychurch says:

        Exactly. I also suspect her PR team exaggerates the pukiness to get her out of work early on. Suspicious how she’s practically on death’s door then it always seems to clear up just when a celeb event comes around that she’s dying to attend.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Can’t work, but can fly to Mustique and Switzerland to vacation while expecting.

  20. Sarah says:

    Honestly, I dont care if she botoxes, wears boring shoes, or spends a fortune on clothes if she earned her keep, as Maxima does, Mary does, even Camilla does. It’s the entitlement coupled with a total lack of commitment to anything beyond herself that irks me. So much potential to do good in a world that sorely needs it, so little effort. And Wills is just as bad.

  21. Oksi says:

    “If Kate is in the study,”
    I read study? Really?? What f*** study? How to make more manic smiles?

  22. Carolind says:

    What absolute tripe about surrogates.

    If Kate does get pregnant again I don’t think it will be until the end of next year. She copies her mother – the gap between Kate and Pippa is almost the same as between George and Charlotte. There is a longer gap between Pippa and James though – more like three years, I think.

  23. Nibbi says:

    this whole “royal women as brood mares” thing still creeps me out. i