I was waiting to discuss this TMZ story until we heard something about an extension of a temporary custody agreement or something. But maybe that’s not happening today, I don’t even know. Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt’s temporary custody agreement expires today, although no one can do much with the divorce negotiations until DCFS completes their investigation and hands out recommendations. As we heard earlier, Angelina and Brad aren’t even talking to each other, but she and the kids are talking to the FBI. And as we heard yesterday, Maddox apparently had no interest in seeing Brad. Now TMZ reports that Brad and Maddox did meet yesterday, Wednesday. The day before the temp agreement ran out.
Brad Pitt had his first visit in more than a month with his 15-year-old son, Maddox … since their confrontation last month on a private jet … TMZ has learned. Sources connected with Angelina tell us the 2 met Wednesday afternoon with a therapist present. There had been a plan in place for Brad and Maddox to reunite a while back, but we’re told the therapist felt the timing wasn’t right. The sources say Brad has had visits with his 5 other kids before Wednesday, but the face-to-face with Maddox is a turning point.
As we reported, Brad and Angelina agreed to a temporary custody plan which the L.A. County Dept. of Children and Family Services created, in which Angelina gets temporary physical custody and Brad gets visitation. Our Angelina sources say, even though she’s headed to divorce court, she still wants their family to function with a fully involved father and mother.
Well, all I’m getting from this is that Maddox probably wasn’t interested in seeing Brad but that everyone involved is following the advice of the therapist. As in, Angelina and Brad are both committed to doing this by the book and they’re taking the advice from the professionals. Good for them.
Meanwhile, in a move that I can only assume was designed to get under Angelina’s skin, Brad has apparently been speaking to Jon Voight. A source tells Us Weekly that Brad “told her dad that what he loves about her is how passionate and extreme she is. He’s been drawn to that.” Voight told Brad that Angelina has always been “erratic” like her mother, because no one ever gets tired of a man bad-mouthing his dead ex-wife. Us Weekly also notes that Angelina is “really pissed” at Voight and she’s bothered by Brad and Jon speaking to each other. She “doesn’t trust” her father. For good reason.
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Her father is an a**hole.
Big time!! He needs to keep his mouth shut. This doesn’t involve him, he is hurting his daughter by giving the world his opinion . If he ever wants to have a relationship with his grandchildren , he will mind his own business .
“erratic” is the new “crazy b*tch”.
Or “Nasty Woman”…
I would be right pissed if an ex went to my parents to say they loved my ‘extreme’ ways. Especially an estranged parent who tends to say EVERYTHING to the press.
This makes Brad seem like a petty highschooler. He knows Voigt has a giant mouth and Angie is super private.
People who are hurting do some stupid crap.
This is also giving me shades of ‘crazy girls are better at sex’ plus some sweet gaslighting nonsense.
She’s so passionate and extreme (ie crazy), but I just love that! – sounds like Trumpster fire and Stern talking about crazy women being good lays. Which ugh. I can’t even start to breakdown all the awful boiled down into that shit nugget.
And it is not erratic to leave if your partner gets physical with you or your children. So eff off with the gaslighting crap Voight.
I find that to much contact between an ex and his in-laws (beyond polite civility) is generally motivated by ulterior motives, and should be avoided.
But especially in this case. Tasteless.
I don’t believe he’s even talking to Voight. Sounds like more BS to me.
Yeah, I can’t help but wonder…again…how Us mag could possibly have this info? Who is talking to them? Why? It just seems off.
Actually, I can see Jon Voight leaking this to the press because he seems to be a real piece of work. But I don’t know what Brad could possibly gain by doing it. If this is true and neither of them leaked the story, then they both need to find the leak and plug it. Not ok.
I really hope it’s BS.
Completely possible from Voight and from rag mags.
i agree with you, Brad in rehab and everybody knows this,they are bringing out every lie to entertain the public,because the average person can not picture Brad being abusive while he is drunk. Paint Angelina the bad person,she doesnt care what the public thinks of her,this hatred for her have been going on for 12 or 13 years while Brad have had a free pass.His kids knows the truth,now get a free pass on that Mr. Brad Pitt.
Well…. she IS extreme. Always has been. It’s only natural that Brad loves that about her, come on, people—don’t we all?! What bugs me is that dude is being taken down in such a public and humiliating way. What’s up with that, after all the goodness and copacetic respect they’ve projected over the years? I’m finding it a bit stomach-turning, personally. Disclaimer: I never liked them together and always suspected Angie would grow tired of Simpleton Brad. BUT… I would have expected her to dump him, the hand-picked FATHER of her CHILDREN for god’s sake, with a little more sophistication and discretion. How dark are their secrets? Why can’t they split up kindly and quietly, for the sake of the children? Something just feels grotesque about this show.
you sound normal. how were you allowed to post?
Crazydaisy I agree with you. And sometimes we have to look at the common denominator here and it’s AJ. I think you hit the nail on the head.
Honestly I think this is all the tabloids. Gotta paint the woman as the villian, the crazy b that’s trying to take kids away from their dad. She has had lawyers sending out letters to stop. This is tabloid gold, easy money.
I agree, crazydaisy.
@crazydaisy
That’s an odd take on the situation.
Were most people shocked?
Yes.
But still, I wouldn’t frame it as ‘dude being taken down in such a public and humiliating way.’
As if, a person (Angelina) did this *TO* HIM.
You know what takes people down every day ‘in public and humiliating ways?’ Addiction. Alcohol. Every hour on the hour. Every minute. That’s the part that isn’t shocking. So I get it. I get the build up. I get the spiral and not being able to control an addiction and most people I know say the same. The secrets don’t have to be dark, or even that secret. There may have been an existing manageable drink problem that got worse, and due to age, stress or just carelessness, spiraled out of control.
So we possibly have a traumatic (public?) drunken incident and Angelina with the divorce petition possibly forcing his hand to get him some help.
It’s a theory.
But no need to demean Brad and his character over something that might be beyond his control. Or because of your personal resentments.
I hope he gets help, helps others and that they can mend their family.
I agree crazydaisy. I hope this comment goes through.
I agree too, Crazydaisy.
Craiszydazey: extreme in what way? The blood drinking brother kissing days are decades behind her. Politically she’s all over the map, in terms of party positions. That’s almost the definition of moderate, functionally if not textbook.
@crazydaisy Apparently he’s been living a second life for years and has ‘friends’ all over the place but is discreet about it. I’m not a fan of either (and agree Brad doesn’t seem very bright) but I don’t understand why this is being played out in public. AJ seems very, very angry, so it’s probably beyond just one outburst. In any case, it’s all TMI for us.
Agreed @crazydaisy – The longer this goes on the more I pity him (I think he IS a simpleton and has an illness) and the less I sympathize with her. DISCLAIMER – I had every right to go all scorched Earth on my ex-husband but took the high road for the sake of the kids, so this hits home. In somewhat related news, I LOATHE parental alienation (Hello, Halle) and I am starting to get that vibe. This is all so EXTREME….the FBI? Fer f*cks sake…..
I hope the visitation with Maddox went well. Forgiveness all around.
Same.
How can he possibly think talking to VOIGHT will win back her favor? And howcome all these celebrity couple photos look so creepy in retrospect? Each woman looks more and more like a captive.
He’s not trying to win her back by talking to Voight. He’s trying to show her she’s crazy and made the wrong choice.
Yeah… As assessed by who?
Even a trained psychologist wouldn’t make those assumptions without treating her, and they wouldn’t be breaking confidentiality on an internet message board.
There is proof that Brad is being investigated for domestic violence, and you think Angie is the crazy one?
He may just be trying to “win” in public opinion. Look how reasonable he is and he is in contact with her side of the family, it must just be her being erratic if all these men are OK. Ugh.
Yup. He lost his temper and got violent, but Angie is the emotional and erratic one.
I said that about AJ and AH some time ago, as well. Hindsight.
I think they need to find out who’s leaking all this information. For a couple that knew how to keep their private lives locked down when they wanted to, something is amiss.
Yes…something is amiss. As tight as they have kept their shit, it is one of them that is leaking this & I’m pretty sure I know which one.
Oh yes. When US Weekly comes out with covers like “Her plan to destroy him” and “Fighting for his kids, but she’s playing tough”, we know exactly which team is benefiting. All the stories of devastation and non-stop crying are clearly in one person’s favor.
It seems pretty typical of a messy breakup when there are high amounts of emotion involved. Everybody’s talking and the main players want their side of the story out there. It’s sad to see it play out this way.
I find it hard to believe that Brad is talking to Voight. He would have to know that this would piss Angie off, and I’m sure, at this point in their family “problems”, that is something he wouldn’t want to do. I just don’t think Brad is that dumb…
It’s hilarious how you guys find anything that makes Brad looks bad “hard to believe.”
He’s not a saint.
I didn’t say Brad was a “saint”…I said, I didn’t think he is that stupid! He knows AJ and JV don’t get along. Only an idiot would think talking to JV would help smooth things over or help heal this family in any way! And, I am just assuming that Brad doesn’t want to stir things up with AJ, since, basically, because of HIS actions, she is holding most of the cards in this situation.
This. I am a huge Angelina fan but I know that she is not perfect and some of the things she did in the past are ironically one of the reasons I admire this woman so much. Of course I admire her intelligence how articulate she is when speaking, her humanitarian work and her big heart but also her flaws because at least to me they were acts of liberation and for a woman to do that in HW you need to have guts. That and the fact that she never cared about what others thought of her. Pitt on the other hand was always the good guy even when he was drunk and had a figth with his son in a plane full of kids.
Neither is she. Why are you so quick to belive everything you read in the tabloids?
I don’t believe any of it. I think crap is written to sell magazines. We had 10 years of BS written about them of which none of it was true but all of a sudden everything about AJ as sait and Brad is a monster.
Spot on! Poor brad
“Poor Brad” my azz. You can’t be serious. The tabloids have labeled her the “Wife From Hell” and talked about her “nefarious plot” to deprive Brad of his children, and you’re saying they are making her into a saint?!
@Carmen was a sarcastic coment (seems not well done)
I wrote my thought below with “Poor Brad” nickname for to be more explicit
I’m glad they seem to be putting the kids wellbeing first. Hope they can repair the problems in their relationship.
*shakes head* Mickey Donovan never fails to make things worse.
I have been waiting to see how long this monster would be able to resist imposing himself into this situation….and here he is! If Brad is taking advice from this oaf, (highly doubt it) she needs to ghost them both.
@ Greata…Maybe she can ghost her Father but at this point there is no way she can ghost the Father of her children. How mature & responsible would that be? Angie & John V are not on the best of terms — John is concerned for his daughter & grandkids, as he should be. He contacted Brad to make sure everything was ok. Brad IS his son-in-law.
@Bonnie-Jean…You are, of course totally right, but I was being sarcastic.
How do you know he is concerned for his daughter? How do you know he contacted Brad? Do you really believe what you read on TMZ or Us Weekly?
@ Greata…so sorry. I totally missed your sarcasm. Will try to be more alert next time.
@ Lady T…I know just about as much as you. We are all just speculating & who said anything about believing everything that is read in the rags? Rational thinking leads me to believe that John cares about HIS daughter & grandkids. If he can’t get info from Angie as to their well-being…he might turn to Brad.
Concerned for his grandkids? He couldn’t even be bothered to learn their names. He used to call Z “Shakira”.
Voight pay 18 year olds to call him “Daddy” when they pretend to be his girlfriend. By all means, let’s call him an authority on psychological well-being.
Ugh that’s vile, I think I just threw up a bit. Have plenty of reasons to dislike him, but never heard that before, is it an old or new story?
A blind item *cough* from Crazy Days & Nights.
I don’t know if that Jon Voight part is true. If it was he would have personally put out a bulletin to let EVERYONE know that he has spoken to Brad about this situation.
Jon is a predictable blabbermouth.
I hope the Voight story is not true. The last thing that pitt needs is a conection with Voight.
Take this latest stuff with grain of salt. Who knows the reality, really? Just hope the whole family can eventually get to the kind of safe place millions of other divorced families finally got to. No one comes out of this unscathed but I hope they will all be better for it.
Yeah to me it sounds like a ton of speculation based on very few actual facts.
Mykarwood…
Yes! I noticed that as well, especially with Amber Heard. I guess our observational skills were sharper once we knew a few facts.
John and Brad have been friendly for years.
Magazines just want to create drama.
Next week’s headlines: Angie has cut off Brad’s parents for those daily tearful calls he is alleged to have been making to them.
So much ick.
DFCS meets typically twice a month to go over cases or “staff”. This one isn’t any different. Maddox had to meet with Brad per the DFCS rules where Brad had to be observed with the child within a certain period of time. It might not have been in the interest of the younger kids to be there with Maddox and Brad and that works out. The DCFS is interested in ONE THING – THOSE KIDS. So this whole BS about Maddox not being there is bullshit. He had to meet with the parent and it was judged to be in the best interest of the family to have them meet separately from the other kids.
Her dad also needs to shut his hole.
This is all so ugly to me. What i find most distressing is that the public have gone completely on brad pitt’s side & hate on angelina based on gossip & tabloid fodder,instead from facts. Facts being there was an incident & child services are involved. From that where does hating on jolie come into it? The tabloids have made this situation so much worse for them. Stirring things & fabricating stories so people choose sides & they profit from clickbait. It’s a sad state all round. Hope the family put all media & press aside & heal together & move forward.
people are judging her based on her actions. the real ones. this whole situation could have been handled quietly for those kids. all these years she has controlled their image. she controlled how this played out as well. sure, leave his drunk ass but don’t hurt your kids at the same time.
Exactly! Well put, right!
if she had done it quietly he would have still the good guys and she would be the bad person,but now the truth is out and the majority of the public believe he has a drinking problem. the narrative have been forgotten and everything is turn to Angelina past and her beening a homewrecker. That’s not the issue,the issue is what happen to cause her to file for divorce and refusing spoual and child support and wanting sole support for the kids until I think Brad goes to rehab thats why we havent heard from him. Next, we will hear that every thing is resolved and he had 50 percent custody because he went to rehab. Watch the premier of his movie Allied,its going to be interesting.
This is quiet.
She’s not at fault for BRAD causing an incident. Nor is she responsible for hiding his dirt, which she actually seems to be doing.
I am so legitimately boggled that people think this is Angie trying to take Brad down.
He was violent, to the point the FBI and child services are involved. Why is it her fault for that? Am I taking Crazy Pills today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llgY3VBwTAo
First off, don’t buy the JV story. For one, if he did speak to Brad, he would’ve staged an ‘impromptu’ sidewalk news conference about it a la John Mayer. Hell, he was John Mayer before John Mayer.
Next, yes there are some who is painting Angelina as the bad guy, but they would have anyway. But the over-correction by many on this board that paint Angelina as the all-knowing, irrefutable figure in this whole thing and anyone who questions anything that was done by her should surrender their uterus, is what some, like me, will continue to argue against. Brad fcuked up, but some would sooner erase him completely out of this family than allow him to make things right, which is entirely within his power to do. It’s fantastic that these types aren’t a part of getting this family back on track, and frankly, I hope their ‘well wishes’ and hopes/visions/aspirations for Angelina doesn’t reach her, because they would cause her more harm than good.
Of course, HER erratic behaviour. She was drunk and getting almost physical with her son on a plane. Oh no! he was but always the woman is the erratic one (new word for crazy)
JV seems to be a very nasty person, not respect for her daughter even in this difficult time.
We realized the seriousness of the situation they are in?
This man should be ashamed of his behaviour on the plane. Under FBI & DCFS investigation. What nightmare for angelina and the kids.
And after all, in a few months he will be the same glamorous celebrity with his movie premieres, magazine cover. The perfect, charming man with one only mistake in his past choose a evil woman. who can blame angelina for to be mad or even for not talking to him for a while?
Her dad is an attention seeking jerk. I bet he reached out to Brad and is the “source.”
In all the years Brad and Angie have been together I have never seen or heard Brad mention Voight in any way shape or form. Angie has talked about her relationship with her father. Brad never has. You can’t even find many if any pictures of Brad and Voight together. So NO Brad is not talking to Voight.
I think the longer this goes on the more silly stories. Yesterday it was claimed that Brad and Maddox didn’t meet because Maddox didn’t see Brad has his father.. You know the man he has known for the majority of his life. There are BS stories coming left and right because the gossip media can’t get any real information. So they are quoting anything they see on a google feed. I think there are things going on that no one knows and when it all comes out at some point a lot of people are going to have egg on their faces. I’m a fan of them both and just sad that this is happening. Still hoping they can work it all out.
Different day/same story….why such hate for Angie when nobody knows the facts? The viciousness is appalling and for no reason. What has she done that is so bad? Leave an abusive husband? Protect her kids from a volatile person with probably addiction issues? How does the HW power couple of the century quietly divorce? She hasn’t given interviews. She has laid low. How has she exposed their children or used them or done them wrong during this fiasco? She hasn’t allowed them to be interviewed. She hasn’t done pap shots or pap strolls with her kids. Nobody knows who’s leaking information and nobody even knows if that leaked information is true. What is up with you people jumping on the hate wagon? why? because he’s good looking and you wish you could have him? I seriously think some of you need to see a therapist.
i agree with you,the average public seem so investing in the 2 lives, it seem they waited 12 years to see this tragedy of a family breaking up and refuse to see why it is breaking because of the hatred that have fir Angelina. the average hollywood wife and mother would not have left and if they did it would have been a joint statement about how they thought about it together and came to an agreement to separate and be friend and co-parent their children. That’s not the way she work and I’m glad to didnt do it Hollywood’s way. You go girl!!!!!!
I really can’t stand all the people who blame Angelina. Many people hate her because she is different than other people in HW, she’s a strong woman and doesn’t care what we think about her and that’s why I’m a big fan of hers.
I think she should have played it much smarter and leaked any other stuff that made her so angry about Brad, because she’s obviously super angry. The way it’s gone so far is that he’s a sad, tortured father who wants to raise them one way and she another, and so he’s gone to the booze and drink in frustration, and lashed out just once. The way I’m reading it is that the mainstream public (not Brangeloons) think she’s made a mountain out a molehill. She needs to leak actual details to ‘explain’ why Brad’s so bad because ppl are confused.
let me explain it to the american people since they are confused. just in case you dont like the narrative,that’s what Angelina wont leak any,because no one will belueve her. I believe she found out he had affair,rented the place in malibu,left france, told him she was and why. Brad snapped because he knew it was over with Angelina and when she mention no 50-50 children custody until goes to rehab, that’s when he really lost it. I’m keeping my eye on Marion’s baby (no blonde,blue eyes please) i’m not the one to start rumors,i’m just doing what every mag is doing,and people believe it.
MC’s son, Marcel, has light blond hair and bright blue eyes in his toddler pics. I suppose anything’s possible but I don’t think they had an affair. I think AJ and BP have been open for years, maybe since the start and he’s had a second life on the side. Once that door’s left open, it’s harder to sustain things. Just speculation on my part.
No offense, wyatt, but what does being an American has to do with it? Given that Angelina was the one who spoke, at length, about the family dynamics, it’s highly unlikely she would’ve been Assuaged if she wanted to ‘come clean’, especially if Brad doesn’t offer any content to compensate. She’s not in Amber Heard’s position, i.e., not as established/in a position of power. IMO, she is a bigger worldwide star, in terms of recognition, although Brad has more power in HW.
She could say that she wanted to say things that made Brad feel good, much like she did with BBT, but that won’t really wash, given the length of their relationship and other people who could contradict her revised observations of the family dynamic. Lainey sort of did it before she became pro-Angelina when she hinted that they both engaged in certain habits together. Naturally, no one knows when Angelina stopped (assuming that Lainey was right), but it would make a difference, at least to me, the context in which he continued. If, for example, their activity, happened on parents only nights, and parents only nights ended when she had her surgeries, then his negative behavior has a root that is somewhat understandable.
Should he get his $h*t together? Fcuk yes! Does the fact that he lost his $h*t in the first place falls into Angelina’s lap? Fcuk no! He needs to find a healthy way to cope with the change in the family dynamic. I hope that he does. And if Angelina does decide to ‘come clean’ about everything, it has to be about everything, not just his shortcomings/failures.
I don’t believe US Weekly.I would believe Brad has spoken to James before Jon.
I agree. He and James have always gotten along well. I don’t know if he and Voight have any relationship to speak of.
It’s actually good that brad and maddox get a one-on-one with the therapist.