Brad Pitt wants us to know that he’s not going to do anything about Angelina Jolie’s divorce filing. I tend to believe that after Brad went fell apart for a week following Angelina’s sudden divorce filing in September, he managed to regroup and assemble a team of crisis managers, publicists and lawyers. I also believe some of the first reports on the Brangelina Split, which included details about how Brad didn’t know what kind of receipts Angelina’s holding, and that his hands are tied legally while the DCFS investigation is ongoing. Just keep that in mind when you read this TMZ story:
Brad Pitt will not file a legal response to Angelina Jolie’s divorce petition because it would set the stage for a nasty legal battle … and he fears it would cause great psychological damage to their kids. Brad’s legal answer was supposed to be filed Wednesday, but the deadline came and went. Sources close to the case tell us … Brad wants joint legal and physical custody, but if he actually filed papers it would draw the battle lines. Angelina wants sole physical custody, setting up a possible custody war.
Angelina could set the wheels in motion for a default judgment since Brad hasn’t answered her petition, but we’re told that is not going to happen. She agrees … healing the family is the priority, not starting a war.
There’s something else here at play. The L.A. County Dept. of Children and Family Services is still investigating the airplane confrontation between Brad and 15-year-old Maddox, and Brad will be in a much stronger position if DCFS closes the case before he files his answer. Our sources also say there’s a chance the whole divorce case could settle privately without any dueling divorce docs. And, we’re told, on that goal both Angelina and Brad agree.
It’s more than possible that in the month that has passed, cooler heads have prevailed and both Angelina and Brad are thinking long-term about the health of their children. It’s also possible that this is some high-level strategy by Brad to not only push a narrative that the kids are his highest priority, but that he’s too “nice” to go to war with Angelina. And of course, it’s also possible that he didn’t file a legal response because his hands are tied with the ongoing DCFS investigation and whatever unknown receipts Angelina is holding. All that being said, I do hope they manage to settle their divorce privately. They both have a lot of lose if they play this out publicly.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Personally, I couldn’t care less what either Jolie or Pitt have to lose – or if, indeed, either of them actually do have anything to lose – by a public contested divorce.
This should be settled in private. Depending whose side you take on what has been put out there so far, a public contested divorce will either abuse or re-abuse the children.
Children should not be discussed or speculated about in public. Because doing so is abusing them.
Totally agree Sixer.
I actually wasn’t sure this couple would ever part, but I definitely never thought if they did, it would play out this way. It’s sad.
It is sad. I don’t really follow either of them but I’ve been disappointed by the way it has played out so far – on both sides. If this article indicates they are now intending to take it behind closed doors, then I think that is undoubtedly a good thing.
It must be so hard for children of celebrities in general and most especially in a situation like this.
Did you ever consider that all those ‘sources’ are full of it?
Did you not notice that both made a statement the day this dropped then said NOTHING further?
People are seriously acting like they’ve had dueling interviews.
People are reacting to gossip sources like they are valid.
??????
You do realize the ‘sources’ talking to the likes of TMZ are actually coming from them, right?
No..and neither do you.
I believe that the majority of the info bantered about is only bull.
I do not believe either of them is talking to any rag, nor are anyone genuinely attached to them.
@kay
Sorry, but I am not in denial.
Kay, I tend to agree with you. Some information my have been passed to the media on their instructions, but there have been some completely out there stories and some contradictory accounts, supposedly from the same side. We all know tabloids and gossip sites make things up or at least do very little to check the validity of their sources, so why should this be any different?
@Jellybean
“so why should this be any different?”
Because TMZ is legit?
kay – I think you miss my point a little bit. I am saying that ATL articles speculating about or inviting speculation about the children AND BTL comments speculating about the children all constitute abuse of the children, individually and taken together.
It bothers me not whether the sources for the ATL articles come from Jolie, Pitt, Jolie’s proxies, Pitt’s proxies, other leakers, anybody else involved, or are just made up.
Consider it this way: Jolie has sent cease and desist orders to outlets, we know for certain. At this point, if they’re still publishing something we know it’s correct.
None of them are legit. They’re all a mixture of real sources and made up stuff.
@Sixer,
I agree that this divorce/settlement/custody is best decided behind closed doors. Jolie and Pitt are adults so they should be able to handle gossips’ slings and arrows but I truly pity those children right now. In the end, hopefully, the new situation will be better, healthier, and also, more private for all concerned.
100% agree Sixer, and well said.
Any filing they make will instantly become fodder not just for tabloids but legit news sources as well. It’ll be splashed all over the place, dissected, repeated, speculated on. The absolute only hope they have for not exposing their kids to this, especially Maddox, is to do it as quietly and privately as possible.
I concur.
And the rest of us should confine our remarks to the adults.
I have avoided most of the stories about this split, too. It’s just too sad. It’s really clear that this is a family that really loved each other but there are some really serious demons happening. I truly hope that Pitt gets some help.
I agree completely.
This whole thing makes me really sad, and the media approach really uncomfortable. There are six young kids involved here, several of whom had rough starts elsewhere. I just hope it all works out as well as is possible in these circumstances.
Always loved Angelina, but the way this divorce announcement came out just has made me feel sick and side eye her. Using children in a divorce announcement was unnecessary, there could have been other ways to announce, but she wanted to demonize Brad I truly believe.
There are ways to announce a divorce without scorched earth tactics and I belive those scorched earth tactics in the first few days came directly from Angelina’s side. It backfired on her. imo and I wasn’t even a fan of Brad’s , I adored Angelina , Loved all her journey through her interesting life, but this whole thing is off putting on her part.
Aren’t they playing this out publicly though? The damage is done.
Yes. It looked to me like it was played out for maximum exposure. Especially for such private people.
It looks like only one person in the couple was playing it out for maximum exposure. Very disappointed in someone who use to value their privacy regarding their children. You don’t bad mouth your mate in public if you care about your children. All of this could have been done privately behinf clothes doors
I agree with crtb.
I also agree with crtb; it was unfortunate to say the least.
Still believe angelina filed the divorce because of the DCFS investigation she wanted to have a sole custody of the kids while the DCFS investigate the offending parent (brad) so she is playing the role of the non-offending parent and DCFS trust the kids with her
I agree. Also, he must be pretty sure that “evil Angelina” is not going to ask for default judgment if he didn’t file response.
“evil Angelina”
**Evilina
Lol, Evilina it is!
If she wanted to ensure she had short-term custody (not really an issue anyway unless there’s much larger problems that haven’t been reported) then she just had to live seperately while DCFS investigated, DCFS would not have required she file for divorce.
All the leaks about the ‘incident’ have clearly been coming from their teams and not a rogue employee or airport staff. The various agencies involved only responded to the stories created by these leaks.
She could have quietly left him, this could have played out privately, and in a few months she could have filed. It’s fine that she didn’t go that way, but her hand wasn’t forced by the press or the investigating agencies. She chose to play it this way.
A fact people want to overlook.
The crew of any plane has the obligation to report to the responsible authorities when any incident takes place on board. That is in the International Rules of Civil Aviation (doesn’t matter if the plane is private or not). I am absolutely sure some of those authorities reported the case to the CPS. So please let`s stop saying it was her camp doing it because it wasn’t.
@kate @lak
How does anything ‘play out privately,’ when your ‘Brangelina?’
Whether she did it post traumatic plane incident last month or “quietly in a few months” as you state – the filing and the split would have been blockbuster worldwide news.
Yes, we know she chose to file for divorce and request temporary primary physical custody for the family’s health (or “play it this way” for those who think ‘Evilina’ and/or ‘Maleficent’ is torturing ‘Poor Brad’ and her family because….evil)- but I’m also sure you’ve probably read several of the speculative posts over the last month as to *why* she may have done it this way. Perhaps it was a final straw and tactic to encourage Brad to get much needed help, an ultimatum.
Doesn’t make it less real, but it does put the ball in his court…in other words, sobriety and counseling.
See. It doesn’t have to always be about mean scheming Angelina.
To be fair, you seem to be overlooking the fact that in the celebrity ecosystem that is LA, the tabloids, particularly TMZ, have sources inside the LA County courts and in DFS–remember all of the leaking a few years ago over Charlie Sheen’s twins? I certainly don’t blame her for wanting a divorce and from the moment DFS was called this mess was going to be public. They are movie stars and that means they trade in their images. They aren’t an anonymous couple in the ‘burbs, of course they both want to shape the narrative.
I think it could have been done a little more privately, at least at first. The tabloids were always going to run with it, but I feel like her team has put a lot of info out there that put the kids right in the middle of it immediately. I feel bad for the kids that there has been so much speculation about it all. Hopefully they are insulated from it.
“……….the moment DFS was called this mess was going to be public.” How so? Their activities are private. The question is why do gossip mavens believe that this confidential information should be fodder for casual speculation?
Almondmilk: the fact that she was able to have major surgery without it getting to the press until SHE wanted it points to her ability to fly under the radar. Ditto their wedding.
The fact that they’ve been water-tight in terms of real information throughout their 12yrs together shows they can navigate under the radar despite the bright spotlight.
Filing for divorce was always going to be a media circus, but giving specific details like ‘an incident on a plane’ or ‘for the health of the family’ by Angie’s manager shows that she wanted this to be public.
There was no need to add anymore fuel to the fire of the divorce filing.
Ana: the airport authorities have made very clear that the airport stories are false. No one at the airport saw anything untoward plus trying to ran away with a fuel tank is an arrestable offense.
If anyone called the authorities, it was an adult inside the plane, not the airport.
http://www.ifallsjournal.com/news/local/sheriff-pitt-at-airport-no-incident-reported/article_5b4e5d1b-3155-5a7b-bbf1-2aea0ef87b66.html
http://www.ifallsjournal.com/news/local/officials-pitt-stories-not-true/article_89d83f34-86b0-5117-8fac-4dec53b57adf.html
Finally, what The original G said. No matter how deep the TMZ sources, the details involving DFS are mere speculation not fact.
However, if you are going to point to TMZ’s fabled sources, in this scenerio i’s start by looking at Angie’s lawyer Laura Wessar. A woman known to leak to TMZ – see Johnny Depp’s attempts to smear Amber as a recent example.
Completely agree with LAK.
I will only add that the children’s mental state, their privacy, wishes and well-being came a distant second in how the publicity was handled. A simple statement to the effect of “we are getting divorced” would have been enough. For the next few years the children will be defined by this. Even as adults they will not escape being asked about this. So completely unnecessary and selfish.
@lak
First of all, I’d like to think personal medical and health records are still more secure and sacrosanct than public court documents. So you comparing Angelina’s surgery to a divorce filing is odd.
Plus, it could have been she knew a filing wouldn’t be secret, and she welcomed that as a kind of leverage to get Brad into treatment or rehab. Maybe he needed the spectre of possibly losing his family as a wake up call.
Sorry to disappoint, but Angelina’s actions re filing and issuing a brief statement about family health, to protect her family and get Brad help doesn’t necessarily mean she desires such attention because…evil.
Curious question. Would the people on the plane sign an NDA? And does that include the specifics of calling authorities in a situation such as this? Because with one of those signed, can’t the employer basically do anything they want?
@Maia
How do you know how the ‘children will be defined?’ What does that even mean?
The incident happened. DFCS was called, witnesses saw it. Yet you think Angie’s divorce petition and short statement about ‘health of the family,’ is what will ‘define them?’
Should they care how InTouch ‘defines’ them? Weren’t they defined by tabloids before this incident? I’ve read many a tabloid cover about Shiloh and the way she dresses and looks – many publications already had labeled her transgendered and calling herself John (Angie’s turning her into a boy don’t you know?) , ditto the twins (down syndrome headlines) ditto Zahara (her ‘real mom wants her back!’) – yet none of that attempts to ‘define’ them, it’s only Angelina’s divorce petition inevitably being made public and her brief comment about health of the family, that will define them?!
Say what?
I would remind you, it’s not over until its over. There also may be more clarification and what you think you know may not be true at all. So whatever you think is defining hasn’t even been explained, or discussed or clarified. In other words you may have no idea what you’re talking about. Let alone making pronouncements like you’ve done.
@almondmilk, you seem really vested in this case. Relax dear.
Almondmilk: what Maia said.
This couple are not the first mega high profile to divorce nor will they be the last.
I’m not equating a medical procedure or a wedding to a divorce filing. I’m pointing out the ability to have something private accomplished with minimum public input.
Whatever happened to ‘we are divorcing, please give us the time and space’. It would still be a media storm given their celebrity, but the details would have remained private and not this endless speculation that has now extended to their children.
What LAK said. (Just about always, too) A simple filing and a dissolution granted by a private judge is how this is done in L.A
Just because individuals have a public profile and we may know some details about them, I don’t think it’s carte blanche to drag the children, in particular, through what amounts to personal projection, and testimonials. Why should they have to read this ugly stuff? How do you(the collective you) think you’re not as culpable as a gossip rag?
LAK: Whatever happened to ‘we are divorcing, please give us the time and space’. It would still be a media storm given their celebrity, but the details would have remained private and not this endless speculation that has now extended to their children.
I would agree with this if DCFS wasn’t involved. When other celebrity couples divorce, they don’t have DCFS investigating their family. It’s sad. If they would have filed together and had joint custody, this situaton would still be messy because of the situation that lead to them being investigated. The children would still be dragged in the media.
Finding it curious she chose to file in LA, the epicentre of celebrity journalism. For someone with a waning interest in hollywood it seems a strange move to double down with an additional separate residence in California, the kids don’t go to school there do they? she could well afford to quickly establish residency anywhere in the world and file divorce… they already have numerous homes and anywhere else in the world would be more discreet than LA.
Maia,
I agree. I think this was escalated so each could be “right,” and that’s wrong when you have kids. I also think it’s bizarre that these kids have now been moved 3 times. And are they even getting an education?? These kids need stability – they need to be in school, with a routine and with other kids, not living behind walls, being moved over and over, with what sounds like a life with AJ that doesn’t include any routines or rules.
There’s more than the physical way to do wrong by your kids.
Nicole-
“Curious question. Would the people on the plane sign an NDA? And does that include the specifics of calling authorities in a situation such as this? Because with one of those signed, can’t the employer basically do anything they want?”
The majority of the people on the plane probably work for them and had signed a NDA covering the entirety of their employment. The rest probably work for the company that chartered the jet. Since a lot of their clients are high profile I would imagine that they too have signed a NDA covering the duration of their employment and possible on from Brand and Angelina’s team.
The short answer is no NDAs are not a way to indemnify yourself from prosecution by having any potential witnesses sign them. NDAs do not apply to illegal activity. For a contract to be enforceable it has to be legal, which is why you can say sue your hit man for breech of contract if he takes your money and doesn’t follow through. Conspiracy to conceal a crime/obstruction is illegal, even if that is the totality of your involvement. If you are asked by law enforcement about an event you witnessed, telling the truth of the totality of what you saw is not a breech of your NDA. However, if you sold the story that they killed drifters for sport, that would be a breech of your NDA. You can report crimes, answer questions from LEOs, and testify without breaching you NDA. So no NDAs are not carte blanche to do whatever you want.
Generally speaking it is not against the law to know a crime has occurred or witness a crime and not report it. For it to elevate to a criminal act you have to have had knowledge of the crime before it was committed, actively helped conceal the crime, hide, destroy or tamper with evidence, mislead investigators or refusing to answer questions you have be legally compelled to answer. If they had teachers aboard the plane or nannies that are licensed through certain professional agencies they have a legal requirement to report and suspicions of abuse or neglect and can be charged for failure to report, even if they did not directly witness any criminal act.
Ana brought up the International Rules of Civil Aviation and said that they are also mandatory reporters which is not true. The ICAO establishes standards and recommended practices for member UN nation, as it does not have the authority to pass or enforce internationally binding laws. Ignoring a direct order from the flight crew, interfering with flight crew and assaulting a member of the flight crew are all federal crimes. It is up to the pilot to determine the best course of action and if the incident merits being reported. Chartering jets is expensive, you aren’t ruining anyone else’s flight like you would be on a commercial airline, pilots are trying to build a good reputation because flying private charter jets is the worst pilot job so they are more likely to keep the customer happy and brush incidence under the rug unless it is incredibly egregious and a genuine threat to the flight safety and even then they usually just divert the plane and ask the travelers to leave without involving law enforcement. Commercial airlines are a whole lot less reticent and more likely to contact LEOs to escort the passenger of the plane. They have hundreds of others to consider and a powerful union and corporation backing them. Charter companies usually back the clients.
Well said LAK. Good points.
There is a Greek saying that no matter where where you touch this, you get your hands dirty. And I believe that for this story.
I am far from a Brangeloonie here, but I keep thinking in the back of my head- I wonder if they will reconcile? Once she gets the desired result from him (sobriety, anger management, whatever it is), will she pull the filing or never respond or do it Ben and Jen style? I want to reiterate I have no dogs in this fight- just curious if anyone has opinions on this.
Not an opinion, more like a small, flickering hope. I want them to get back together so that true love can prevail.
Uhhhmmm if they get back together it means that every week there’ll be a new story in the tabloids about how Brad still calls Jennifer or Marion, or how he beat up another child etc. Once a crack is exposed, it doesn’t look as solid anymore unless you’re Beyoncé and Jayz. And don’t say she won’t care about the tabloids or public opinion because you know damn well she does
@scar
“It means that every week there’ll be a new story in the tabloids,” – you wrote.
How will that be any different than what’s happened almost every week for the last 12 years since they’ve laid eyes on each other?
Also, your post’s pathology…a breakdown:
1)Jennifer’s name mentioned. Check.
2)Marion mention. Check.
3)Angelina isn’t different from Jen or the rest of us – and the tabloids wound her every time they come out with a nasty headline, at least that’s what we the minivans are hoping. It’s our most fondest desire. When we call her a drug addict or said her babies had Down’s we wanted her to feel pain and now we can assume she did – what with the lawyers she has on the case now.
Oh yay… Retroactive joy! Check.
Except…nah.
What she does to protect her family (and Brad perhaps) by employing lawyers to insure her kids do not get dragged into a tabloid free for all more than necessary…does *not* mean she’s undergone a personality change and cares what they say about her.
Sorry but it doesn’t mean she’s as insecure w/a heavy dose of low self esteem as haters on her message boards, or perhaps ‘Jen’ is…for example.
I know you’d like that to be the case. I just don’t think it’s true. These are special circumstances that aren’t just about her. She’s in protective mommy mode.
Dame Angelina is still kick azz. Better than most. Still goes high when they go low.
Lol, they will not reconcile. Both Brad Angelina made sure of that. The bridge was burned to the ground. All they need to do now, is remain amicable to co-parent.
@sage
You might be right.
Course who would have thought Garner would be vacationing with Nanny-F’er,Ben Affleck. Talk about a burnt bridge…and yet they seem to be reconciling…
If she can forgive that…
Angelina’s filing may have been an attempt to get a possible alcoholic Brad some treatment and healthy for the family might not spell divorce afterall…this does not have to be a burnt bridge situation…we’re human…alcoholism is a disease…people understand how it destroys lives. It’s possible Brad comes out on the other side and they can reconcile…
Didn’t say it was assured or expected..not calling odds…but if any couple can do it I think they may be able to.
I understand many are still smarting after 12 yrs (waves to Chelsea Handler) lol, and their most fervent desire is that Brad and Angelina are dunzo- I’m just speculating that it may not turn out like you think or want. So brave yourselves. 😉
@almondmilk
People said which baby had Downs? That is so low.
@Nicole
National Enquirer printed a cover story taken right off the hater cesspool site female first) part of daily mail) – the idiotic part was that they said both twins had Downs. I’m no doctor but twin down syndrome births have got to be rare, made even moreso when the twins are fraternal not identical.
Just another grotesque form of Angelina hate that still abounds
@almondmilk
Great observation, thanks for the info. I looked up ‘fraternal twins down syndrome’ and they have done research and recorded 244 pair. That is a very low number. People are sick, but are we sick for reading this? That’s where I stop and think, crap, are we making this worse? Then I think, I don’t think Angelina is worried about our opinions, just staying strong and taking care of her family.
@margie
Since the deadline came and went, and he never filed a response – it seems reconciliation, is at least a possibility (after certain conditions are met re sobriety, etc).
It’s strange to see that option, not broached at all in these speculative reports…
…who’s writing these ‘reports,’ Chelsea Handler?
I hope they can work it out, firstly for the kids of course and then for the fact there really isn’t anybody that can follow up Brad or Ange in the looks department 😂 Who can live up to that particular ex??!!
I honestly thought this as well. I was wondering if she had tried really hard to convince him to get help and he refused so she filed for divorce as a wake up call. Oh well, I just hope it all works out for the children’s sake
I would love for this to be true! I am such a Brangeloonie, to the point where I have mostly avoided reading about their breakup (part of that might be because my relationship fell apart on the same day, but still.)
I wish. But no, and this is really cynical, Brad will want a younger girlfriend. I don’t want that to be true, but I would bet a fair amount of money that he will find someone young and, how should I say this? Simple? naive? Without “baggage”? I don’t mean this as an insult necessarily, I just don’t think their relationship was ever as perfect as it looked. And I think he wants out. I think he probably wanted out after a few years. I have always found their body language so uncomfortable. To the point it kinda made me squirm. I know, monday morning quarter backing, but I really did (I swear!) I always liked them both, but as a couple I never bought into their happiness. The first couple years, yes. After that….no.
If he was the one who wanted out, then why has he been the one who was all crying and devastated because of this split? I think she is the one who wants out and has wanted out for quite a while now. I think Brad still loves her very much. I’m not at all sure she still loves him. I think Angie simply outgrew him and got tired of him in the process. And no woman wants to have to deal with a grown man in the middle of a raging midlife crisis, especially when she has six children to take care of. I think she wants him to get help for his own sake and for the kids, but I’m not sure what her endgame is after he completes rehab.
They would both have to want to reconcile in order for that to happen, and I’m not sure that she does. Like a lot of selfish guys, I think Brad felt it was fine for him to run around all over Europe having fun with his friends, as long as he was secure in the knowledge that Angie and the kids would always be waiting for him back home. Angie filing for divorce completely knocked the props out from under him. He wants his life and family back. I’m not at all sure she wants him back. We will simply have to wait and see how this plays out.
Hmm I mean I could see it happening if he made the changes she wanted but I’m not holding out hope. The problem seems to come from him having to much pride to admit he has a problem and she clearly has put down a very,very hard line about not accepting his behavior (IMO rightly so). I think PR wise it would be a sympathetic story if Brad came out and said that he got sober for the sake of his family with or without a reconciliation.
@Luca: I am wondering if Brad is in rehab right now. I’m also intrigued that after all this time there has not been a word from Bill and Jane Pitt. They must be going through hell. They have always expressed a great deal of affection for Angie and of course they love their grandchildren.
It’s not just that Brad needs to get sober, he needs to grow the hell up. It’s not okay for a middle-aged man to run around all over Europe indulging in his pleasures while he completely neglects his wife and kids.
Serious Question: Is anyone aware of what would have hppened in terms of the DFCS if she had not filed for divorce, given that someone had already informed the authorities about the incident on the plane? Could the DFCS have taken the children away?
It takes a lot for people to lose their children… To the extent that lots of people who deserve to lose their kids don’t. From what we have heard about (of course, there could be a lot more to be discovered), this is not something anyone would lose their kids over. And especially not people with as much money and power as these two.
‘These two’ with all the money and power are under DCFS/FBI investigation.
Maria… Any report would warrant an investigation. That doesn’t mean anything.
People usually loose their kids over drugs and being seen as neglectful drug addicts, that is why Brad is undergoing drug testing.
I still think that angelina had to do this so brad could get his shit together. And i still think he went to rehab.
Dream on. I think there’s better ways of going about it if that were the case. Publicly humiliating your husband so he’ll clean up his act? How does that protect her kids? This was a disaster waiting to happen for some time. The cracks were showing long ago.
I think so as well, it wasn’t a “wake up call”, it was “destroy him”, and it backfired.
i agree with you. i believe he been in rehab since this happen. all this report about him not filing and want to protect his children, who caused his children to need protection?
Why would he be in rehab if his drug/alcohol tests came back clean? He even offered to take the tests & he came back CLEAN. I think HE wants out & AJ is really pissed about that.
Bonnie Jean, according to all the reports, he’s the one who’s “crying and devastated “, not her. She didn’t file for a legal separation, she filed for divorce. She wants out ASAP. Like the day before yesterday. She’s done with him.
They both took drug tests. Hers was clean too.
It’s probably a good strategy for him not to file a rebuttal. I’m not a lawyer. If he wants access to his kids and move on, then he needs to be cool and civil. It’s not like he needs spousal support or anything. He has his foundations, his career.
By the way, where is Poor Brad? Not pics yet?
And any apologize statement by him about the public damage to his own family? What a classy man…
I find the public statements to be exercises in narcissism. The public really has no right or expectation to hear anything about celebrities’ private lives.
I find the public statements to be exercises in humility
Celebrities has anything but private lives (here we are)
Yes, here we are, in spite of having no confirmed information or skin in the game, lecturing, pontificating and speculating about people we don’t even know, publicly. I think there’s a limit to what we should find entertaining.
@The Original G, couldn’t agree more with you.
Brad screwed up and I am sure this is not the first time. I feel badly that Angelina is being portrayed so badly by Brad s sources. I believe he cheated and h a s been acting out for awhile. I think the plane incident and DCFS involved did it for her. We know she loves him and I do worry how she is doing. She always gets portrayed as strong and beautiful but remember she has had a couple of rough years both with her health and Brad running to Europe every time they fought. Oh and by the way I didn’t see any kids with him in France, London or New York . Brad I feel is about Brad and whatever makes him look good. Angelina is about her kids.
Remember those pictures of Brad with those blond playboy type women with a bear in his hand? Imagine if it was Angelina?
I don’t recall him holding a beer in those pictures. I do recall that he had his hands in his pockets.
Pwal, why did you ruin it? I loved the mental image of Brad flirting with models as he held hands with a bear! 😉
@pwal and Lindsay
Ask and you shall receive.
http://www.justjared.com/2016/06/27/brad-pitt-mingles-with-fans-at-motorcycle-show/
@sera
Some women who dislike/hate Angelina are so transparent. Lol. I could alnost FEEL the minivan disappointment when the tabloid narrative was forced to switch from the tabloid-preferred cheating B.S. to the DCFS incident w/Maddox and a possible alcoholic Brad in need of rehab.
The fans of her hairness, the sitcom lady – were so po’d.
They were all ‘KARMA-Ahaaa! If he cheated WITH you he’ll cheat ON you’ nonsense. Jumping up and down with glee. Hoping for salacious goodies.
But instead they got ‘Bad Drunk Dad Brad’ attacks Mad.
Dang. What a disappointment eh? That would have made the split and break of a family of 8, sooo much more fun if Brad had fallen for a co-star. Bummer.
Yea… Let that last bit marinate. How soulless are people today?
So when Brad went to Europe to check on their home or vineyard it was ‘a fight?’ What about when Angie went to Europe for her work or UN stuff? Were those fights too?
Were these ‘fights’ confirmed? In publications other than In Touch?
Their trips abroad didn’t seem any different than usual, they were sometimes solo, sometimes together, sometimes with kids and sometimes without. The kids were older, had school, extracurricular stuff, friends, in Mad’s case a gf… They weren’t the same couple with 4-5 kids under 6 years of age that they were. It all seemed a normal part of a large family maturing.
To @Ana
Are you talking about Brad at the races in Europe? He’s done that almost every year they’ve been together. Same pics of formula 1 promo models who my guess is were happy to get a picture with ‘Brad Pitt.’ Angelina gets the same B.S. when she stands within 5ft of any attractive male – she’s scheming on him.. Lookout Brad!
@almondmilk you are a little naive. For the last year and half he was flyng SOLO a lot, without kids, short trips, for 2 or 3 days to croatia, germany, france, etc. while the family always was on another country, Do you really believe he was checking the vinyards? they have people who does the job. Angelina always flew with the kids and when she did it alone was to the UN missons. Brad was acting like a single man for awhile…
@Maria
People here think I shouldn’t weigh in defending wholly made up tabloids scenarios, but somehow it’s ok for other posts to claim they aren’t fans at all yet still know each and every one of their flight manifestos when they happened to go abroad?!
How does that work? It’s like me disliking Justin Bieber, claiming to not be interested or care and yet knowing, in detail – when and how he’s left the country.
Do I have an agenda? Sure. I’m a fan. That’s why I know what I know. There are fans that can tell you the date they left and returned and who was with and how long they were gone. Just head to JJ’s, lol.
What’s your excuse though? just curious.
What I find equally odd, is that these same people who fault Brad for needing to meet with Perrin about his wine co. /vineyards and his French home or her UN work *occasionally* in a given year…
….are the same ones who pretend to joyously high five over the seemingly bi-coastal relationship/marriage of Brad’s ex, who legit publications have pointed out is almost *never* with her husband day to day…and I mean that literally. It’s weird. Lolol
Really weird double standards.
@Sera.
I second everything you’ve said. Yes Angelina has shown she has strength of will but she is also human. She hurts just like anyone else. I hate the way some of the hardcore Brangelina fans think she is somehow immune to all the malice that’s been directed at her.
I’ve also been really uncomfortable with the way her two friends, Arminka Helic and Chloe Dalton have been portrayed in the media and by some of the fans. I’m glad she has people she can lean on at this time.
I want her to make decisions that feel right for HER. She’s been doing things “for the kids” and while that’s admirable, she should also take her own needs into consideration.
Everybody would be so happy that the court would give him sole custody of the children and not let her see them again because we know Angelina is such a nasty woman. In our society the woman is always the manipulator, the evil bitch etc. So to finish this story is better to give him the children so he can go back with Jen, so she can put a nice dress in Shiloh, because you know that´s Angie fault that her daughter wants to dress boy´s clothes. Brad has nothing to do with it. It’s always her fault. We really live in a trump society.
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Brad didn’t file for sole custody, Angie did. And only sick individuals think it is okay to take a child from a parent without good reason, but I haven’t seen any comments suggesting Angie should lose her kids.
I hope they can both be civil have a good relationship with their children like it should be.
And pretty sure Jen is drinking a margarita on a beach somewhere and is not interested.
She filed, but do we know when and if he was served.
I’m a fan and want them to reconcile. I always thought they were a great couple/team.
Off topic, but maaaan they were a good looking couple. That picture above is like trying to look at the sun. Too much beauty, it almost hurts. I’m not personally devastated by the split or anything, but I really did think they were perfectly matched.
Really? I feel like he’s nowhere as good looking as she is.
Maybe, but as a couple they were stunning.
One of the Best looking couples and stars in the history of Hollywood. In their prime, both equally on their own were gorgeous.
I actually think they both look better looking than most of Hollywood. They are two stunning people.
They are both stupid levels of pretty. They also had glamour and ‘mystery’.
If Dewan and Tatum could act they could take up the torch, but I don’t think either of them are politically savvy enough. This isht takes work.
Lupita married someone not in the business, and Saldana’s piece is a model, not actor.
Maybe Gosling and Eva? I don’t think he’s pretty enough though.
After all these couples, I bet Fassy and Vikander thought they could do it, but he is ageing SO poorly.
IDK. I’m sure there are a lot of fabulous famous couples, but what (I thought) they had was rare. Beauty, yes, love for kids, I certainly thought so, mutual interest in philanthropy/global affairs. I still think that was all true at one point.
@Ana Exactly! The way the media have maligned angelina ever since she got with brad is the most dispicable, sexist crap i’ve come across. No matter what she does they will twist it or fabricate it to suit that narrative to profit from. To them, brad will be the all american, corn fed humble guy from a solid background & angelina will be the messed up, broken home weirdo with no “female friends”. Truth is, she has been a threat from the start. Her beauty, strength, originality & intimidating to other woman. She will never win in the media/public eye. I like them both, they have there flaws & more complex people than given credit. Wish them both & their beautiful children the best, whatever the outcome?
Great response Molly. It upsets me when they all try to make Brad the poor innocent. Angelina did what she did because she was frightened and upset for her son and her family. She did not want all this tabloid press of that you can be sure but Brad’s team seems to want to keep spinning this tale as Angelina’s fault. I wish her all the best.
I am not a fan of either, and doubt they’ll reconcile. To be fair, I don’t think supporting AJ gives any poster moral high ground. They were two in this marriage and relationship. It’s entirely possible that AJ paying Helic and Dalton 300 000 pounds per year each for the last 2 years, to raise AJ’s political profile has been detrimental to the marriage. They facilitated the LSE gig, which can be seen as growing or cronyism. Add AJ’s movie flops, and for those of you praising her intelligence, the movies she directed or wrote, do not support that. Further add her surgeries. BP can have midlife crisis, but to say he has been the only one with problems lately is removing all responsibility from AJ. And since she is a grown woman, she has made choices, some good, some bad. It’s hysterical to put her on a pedestal.
Sure sound like a Brad fan. Angelina will continue to do her good work and take care of her family. Brad and she have come to a parting of the ways due to irreconcilable differences. Period.
I am not a Brad fan at all… To the extent that I never understood what Angie would possibly want with him. Not being mean, but he just seemed kind of simple compared to her. But some of the fawning over her seems a bit extreme. And her timing/ motives do seem questionable. I find it odd that fans are so blinded.
What Lalu said. I think they started out very much in love with each other, but Brad couldn’t keep up with Angie, and she just outgrew him. I think he may still be in love with her but I don’t think it’s mutual any more. I hope I’m wrong.
I loved Brangelina, so I really do hope for a reconciliation. However, I don’t think that will happen. I think, it is very telling that AJ filed for DIVORCE, and not just a legal separation, so that maybe he would straighten himself out. I think she wants out!
Yes. I don’t think this was a threat either. I believe she means it.
When I saw Maddox on the Channel 4 news last night, with the anchors speculating about his relationship with his father, I have to admit I got angry at Angelina. Brad is no saint but I feel like she exploited a family fight that was mainly between her and her husband in order to get the upper hand in the divorce.
And now look at the result, her children will be hounded and talked about even more than before. All eyes will be on them. No child should turn on the news and see adults wondering about his relationship with his father, that’s incredibly private and frankly pointless to talk about on the news.
LMAO So Brad gets drunk on a plane and gets physical with his son.Someone calls DCFS because of his out of control behaviour.DCFS determines he must have multiple supervised visits with his kids.FBI is investigating.
But all of this Angelina’s fault.
Poor Brad
#sarcasm
@minina
Are you kidding me? His behavior is the root cause of all of this drama (with DCFS involved). He was wasted, squared up to/was rough with/was physical with Maddox. But is she still the suspicious one? NO ONE makes another drink, abuse substances, abuse others and act like an ass. He is an adult. Now, because of him, she and the kids are under public scrutiny.
I agree, it was awful to get the kids involved, specially when the investigation concluded there was nothing to investigate.
If there is nothing to investigate why is the FBI investigating Nothing?
Maddox is probably happy that he has a mom who will protect him Minina.
Sure He loves his kids, but in this moment seems to be one and only HIGHEST PRIORITY for brad and it´s not the health´ kids: It´s his career and the public opinion about him. The main reason behind a managers crisis team. MO
If he files for sole custody of his kids tomorrow and puts out a statement that it is for the health of his family, would you believe the kids are his priority then?
You don’t know what his priorities are anymore than you know hers.
That’s default which is deemed an admission – a concession to her requests. Let’s hope his lawyers asked for an extension because otherwise this case is done with regard to his filing pleadings
I thought that not responding was similar to not contesting but I wasn’t sure.
It isn’t a “admission” of anything. There are numerous reasons people decline to respond to a divorce petition. Yes, if she wanted to she could take steps that would lead to her request for physical custody being granted because the request was never challenged by the respondent. However, the case would not be “done”. Custody cases are only ever fully adjudicated when the child turns 18 or in some cases graduates from college. Custody is different than a default judgement in a law suit. The family court is working with the best interest of the children in mind and will hear and settle disputes as they arise or their is a substantial change in circumstances regardless of the previous legal maneuvering of the parents. They advocate for the child(ren).
Responding would set the stage for a family court battle because I doubt he will acquiesce to her demands for full physical custody. Hopefully the will be able to meet with a mediator hash out a co-parenting plan and division of assets, go to a private retired judge, get him or her to agree it is a fair, legal plan and in the best interests of the kids and get a quite, vauge dissolution of marriage filing and put this behind them.
I will not believe that the phone call to DCFS did not happen without her approval. The crew has come out and said they were not involved. So it was an insider on the plane, on their payroll. No nanny would lose her job and call DCFS, no matter what ethics dictate. This was Angelina’s exit strategy and it backfired immensely. And now she’s scrambling with all these fancy lawyers to undo the damage.
I hope they get joint custody.
Yes, this is what I believe all along but didn’t want to say as so many here think Angie is a saint. It’s sad as I admire her for her humanitarian work and think she is an intelligent woman but I am disappointed in the way she has handled this divorce. Brad made mistakes I am sure but he is the father of her children so I am shocked at the callous and cold way she has cut him off.
@Meandyou:
hmm, that is too risky for her to involve child services into her life. Angelina does not seem the type that would want someone questioning her parenting skills.
Actually, regardless of any NDA they sign, if anyone on their payroll witnessed an incident involving a minor and didn’t report it, they could be held accountable for failing to report it. In many jurisdictions if you have direct knowledge and fail to ask you could face charges. And any NDA clause trying to force them not to do that would be unenforceable, you cannot enforce a contract or clause that is contrary to the law.
And if you are a teacher and have a license and don’t report it, you will (not can, will) lose your license if it comes out that you didn’t. I’d take the chance that I’ll be sued over losing my license – plus, it’s the right thing to do if there is something going on harmful to the kids.
“Anyone can make a report to DCFS but there are certain individuals who must make a report if they have reason to believe or suspect neglect or abuse. These “mandated reporters” include childcare providers, teachers, doctors, law enforcement officers and social workers, for example.”
Who reports the incident has to be identified for DCFS it is not because it is anonymous that anyone will come out denouncing without identifying only the research they keep on secret the name of the person.
” Sometimes, in child custody cases, one parent may try to make a false report against the other parent. It is illegal for an individual to knowingly make a false report of child abuse or neglect and it can result in jail time and fines.”
And this absurd idea that Angelina orchestrated this is the purest madness, because if one of the parents to raise false claims may come to jail and receive a fine. you think these gossip sites talking about having their information is true ????
“In instances where criminal charges are not sought, DCFS may allow you to retain custody as long as you follow a certain plan. In other cases, they can keep your matter out of court as long as you agree to relinquish physical custody and place your child with someone else. Each case is different and depends on the facts and the investigation. ”
Now during the investigation Brad and Angelina are not saying anything …. Angelina or even personally spoke … were the lawyers who spoke.
It seems that Angelina and Brad are taking all the measures that the DCFS required.
“So, it is strongly recommended that you speak with an attorney as early as possible.”
“The area of DCFS defense is not an area of law that many attorneys practice. In reality, many people who are investigated cannot afford an attorney. However, having one can make a major difference in a process that may have huge implications on your life, your family, your work”
has a lot of “expert” talking to these gossip sites without knowing the case, and many are even attorney but should not be experts in the area of DCFS.
Angelina is dealing with the FBI, DCFS, a bunch of gossips and speculations, 6 children and a husband who may be going through a problem, their marriage probably was already experiencing difficulties (he is investigated can not speak, he have to participate the therapies and the drug tests …),
Angelina had to get ready to face all this, so her concern for lawyers to be able to take care of everything.
Brad has had several visits with his kids(at least three) all supervised by a therapist.I wonder why the therapist feels all his visits thus far require supervision? Since NOTHING happened on the plane.Since the call to DCFS was a false report?
#sarcasm
You know some of these posters will never believe their middle aged golden boy man child idol has feet of clay. All blame must be laid at Angelina’s feet. They think she’s in cahoots with DCFS and the FBI to ruin Pitt. Like you, I would like them to explain why Pitt’s visits with the children still require supervision. They want to brush off this whole thing as something minor that Angelina exaggerated and used to “destroy” Pitt but conveniently ignore the fact that DCFS is still investigating the plane incident.
Perhaps less sarcasm and a bit more effort at interpreting comments before responding? I never implied that she’s falsely accusing Brad of hitting Maddox. I think he pushed the boy and has admitted as much. I said that the call to DFCS was made inside the plane, by someone on her payroll and she had to know. She’s been wanting to leave for some time and she was never going to get physical custody unless she had a convincing story for the judge. So she saw her chance and she took it. Too bad it backfired. I hope he gets to be part of their kids life as much as she.
I think no nannies would report anything to the autothorities even in the absence of an NDA. This is a nice job for them. Why risk it over ethics, especially since if it was THaT serious that he had beateb Maddox, 1) he would have been arrested 2) Maddox would have shown marks 3) She wouldn’t have allowed him to board the plane again in Minnesota.
I still like her, but she’s erratic and has admitted as much about herself. She said that Brad was a calming influence on her. It’s not surprising to me that she *thought* she was acting with the best intentions but then it turned into a PR nightmare…for her and a just nightmare for the kids. Don’t think she was too concerned about Brad or how this would impact him.
If the call came during the flight, only the pilots could do that, no one can use the phone during the flight. probably the pilots called some tower of an airport to inform the confusion and the tower informed the police of L.A. and the police reported to DCFS since it involved one of their children.
I do not think Brad is violent and that was not the intention of him to hurt the child physically or emotionally.
Both Brad and Angelina could not control themselves and discussed in front of the children in flight ,the two must be standing at the plane for Maddox have to get between them and intervene, and Brad was drunk worsened everything …. it was a succession of misfortunes and that perhaps the intention of the caller to police was not thinking it was something violecia against a child … but a mess on the plane with an altered and drunk adult … is a risk to the flight and imagines that traumatic for the other kids to see all this in an airplane with nowhere to go.
No one will know for sure what happened, but people want to blame Angelina for the gossips create and play the blame on her about this mess….
@Jilly. Mere civilians can make phone calls when up in the air for a charge, let alone rich celebrities who are flying on a private jet. What do you mean only the pilot could make the call? I’m not saying they used his phone but in this day you can certainly make phone calls from a plane. The pilot and the crew have come out and say that they didn’t call anybody.
I can very well flip it on the other side. People are coming up with all sort of reasons that it wasn’t Angelina who called DCFS herself but would rather believe that pilots or nannies, for whom this job may be lucrative and have their own families to support would call DFCS and risk losing their jobs over something that didn’t even warrant an arrest. Okay then. Keep on believing.
As i said, her intention wasn’t to destroy Brad but to get the kids and she miscalculated.
The presence of the therapist is actually a voluntary arrangement. We are told he is insisting on the presencevof the therapist to prove he has nothing to hide. Just as he took drug and alcohol tests voluntarily. The results were negative btw.
It’s not going to be handled privately. The case is going to be dumped into family court anyway and the judge will decided. There would be no need for Pitt to file a petition bc it is going to family court. This is basic law 101. No way the court would side against Pitt. They work to keep family together, even with a nasty divorce, and whatever else is happening.
Nah, I think they’ll settle quietly and keep this out of the courts.
I agree with you,I believe they are negotiating everything now. He will get 50-50 custody,she will get physical custody. They will probably issue a joint statement,and the tabloids will continue writing negative stories about her like they have for the last 12 years,but the saddest part of this stories is his kids saw something they never should have seen their father act,and he knows this.
Angelina was busy in the middle of the fight with brad & maddox & then seeing her kids were alright. Did she sneak off to the toilet to make the phone call? Otherwise i think brad would of noticed she was on her phone calling & speaking to child services.