Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner are richer than I was expecting. So, that was shocking to me. But you know what was even more shocking? The fact that we’re finding out their net worth at all. As White House employees, they are ethically and legally obligated to make full financial disclosures. I mean, that’s what’s always done. That’s the rule. But I’m shocked that the Bigly Administration actually followed through with it, and that Jared and Ivanka disclosed their financial records. Anyway, the big(ly) number is $741 million. Allegedly.
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner could be worth nearly three-quarters of a billion dollars, according to documents released Friday. President Donald Trump‘s daughter, 35, and son-in-law, 36, will remain beneficiaries of their real estate and investment businesses worth as much as $741 million, according to multiple news outlets, including the New York Times and CBS. Other reports have the couple’s worth as $240 million.
On late Friday, the White House publicly released financial disclosures and ethics filings for more than 100 of its top administration officials.
Kushner’s financial disclosures showed that his wife earned between $1 million and $5 million from the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C. between January 2016 and March 2017, and put the value of her stake at between $5 million and $25 million, according to the Times.
According to the Associated Press, the documents show that Kushner, Trump’s senior adviser, resigned from some 260 entities and sold off 58 businesses or investments that lawyers identified as posing potential conflicts of interest due to his stepping away from businesses while in government service. But his lawyers, in consultation with the Office of Government Ethics, determined that his real estate assets, many of them in New York City, are unlikely to pose the kinds of conflicts that would trigger a need to divest.
“The remaining conflicts, from a practical perspective, are pretty narrow and very manageable,” said Jamie Gorelick, an attorney who has been working on the ethics agreements for Trump and Kushner.
I believe the discrepancy between the $240 million figure and the $741 million figure is how you valuate New York real estate, right? Kushner might have taken losses from divesting from some of his businesses – yikes, 260 entities, good God – but he still has all of his real estate holdings, likely all of which were inherited or part of some trust. You can read a further breakdown of the Kushner-Trump finances here. Ivanka’s businesses (clothing lines, jewelry lines, etc) are worth about $50 million. Many of Bigly’s top advisers are all crazy-rich too, by the way. I hope all of those poor and middle class Trump voters are paying attention. They kept claiming that Trump understood the working class. Bulls–t.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet and Getty.
But she wants that White House job out of the goodness of her own heart, though, right? That’s why she and Jared are not taking salaries, right? And why trump isn’t, either! They’re just here to fix things!
Why are printers cheap? They’re cheap because ink is EXPENSIVE.
Karma will soon make that zero and prison sentence for abetting treason…
I really hope you are right. Never rooted that much for Karma to strike…
When was the last time someone powerful had to go to jail?
Are there allegations of treason against Ivanka as well?
I think we all know about the ones against Mad King Babyfists, Ruler of the Cheeto Dusted Lizard People.
Jared is also in the fraud/money laundering business. Don’t forget his dad was prosecuted by Chris Chrispie when Chrispie was a state attorney. I think they have a 400 million dollar fraud lawsuit on one of their properties now.
There won’t be any prison sentence. If there is one for any of the Trumps it will be VERY short, as they are sure to be pardoned by the next president, I would think.
I can’t believe her crappy items are worth that much money.
And Trump voters like that he’s rich for some convoluted reason. Like they think he’s this rich wonder man who somehow gives a shit about the plight of the coal worker. Because they are all goddam idiots.
It’s actually a thing for poor Right Wing voters to choose a candidate that is richer and more successful than them. A lot of it is based on current “Prosperity (aspirational) Gospel” teachings which go back to the American mythology of ‘anyone can be rich from poor origins’. You want your preacher who is telling you success is around the corner to be wealthy and have a nice car.
College educated business conservatives love that the Trumps are rich-again they too are aspiring to that level of wealth. Additionally, they believe he will cut taxes for them so they take home more profit. While his poorer conservatives still believe cutting taxes will allow businesses to hire more workers or increase pay rates. Despite facts that show these business owners pocket the tax cuts increasing the separation of employer salary to employees.
The Democrats are at fault for not pointing out these facts and allowing themselves to be bullied as “class warfare starters”. There is already a war on the poor and middle-class.
Wait though, that’s not a myth! My grandparents were very poor immigrants. My dad slowly got all the wau through a PhD, has his own businesses, and is very very well off now. Like, so many vacations per year, real estate, plus just the dailies like providing a ton of financial support to all his kids and grandkids and also has healthy savings and retirement. He can’t be begrudged as bad- he worked tremendously hard from DEBT, supporting his parents as they aged (they had him late in life), and he works 7 days/week long hours. So it’s not a myth at all.
I’m not speaking to anything else- just the idea that you can’t do well if you’re born in abject poverty. You can.
@Matomeda
I’m sorry if my comments came across as though no one ever makes it big from poor to wealthy. I meant in general it’s not so easy nor as common as the mythology of simply ‘picking yourself up from your bootstraps’ makes it appear.
I lived in a neighborhood of 30% successful immigrants. And their story is complicated. Except for refugees *most* (not all) people in this century who make it from a foreign country to the US (though poor here) had to have come from at least a middle or upper-middle class family in their country to get through the long visa line, the huge fees, the politics (or bribing public servants in some countries/having a family member in high places in others) and the means to afford an airline ticket to the US plus have food and shelter when they arrive.
Furthermore, as an immigrant it’s a tough life don’t get me wrong, my heart goes out to them (new country, new language, new customs, being treated as inferior for having an accent, etc.)
However one thing immigrants are able to do is not be bogged down by generations of history or baggage in their new country. They can see clearly to the opportunities native citizens may not. They can ignore cultural and social issues and lazer focus on work, education and climbing the ladder. They don’t have it easier, they just have it differently than natives.
For Natives yes you can go from the ghetto or a trailer or your family of small farmers in the Midwest to Walk-street or Harvard. But those are the exceptions not the rule. For every 1 case of success, there might be thousands who don’t make it. There are many historical obstacles. A family like Trump pretends they are the example of the great American myth but they came from wealth, connections, mentors, the right skin color etc. It’s complicated is what I should have said. My apologies.
@Matomeda – an anecdote does not disprove the myth. And class mobility has actually gotten less likely in the United States.
@Matomeda, I would like to point out that while I am very happy this happened for your family, let us also point out there is a lot of luck involved in your dad’s situation. What if he, his parents or siblings had been diagnosed with a life threatening illness? Would he have had to quit his PhD program to work? Because that happened to several of my union coworkers, where their parents had pre existing conditions that necessitated them becoming essentially parents to their siblings at a young age.
Was your grandfather in a PhD program to avoid the draft? Because a lot of poorer white males took that route during the vietnam war. A lot of the draft burden fell disproportionately on people who weren’t predestined for college (listen to fortunate son where they sing “i ain’t no senator’s son” by CCR about the vietnam war). There were many who thought the war and patriotism and fighting communism were a unquestionably a good thing.
What if your grandpa hadn’t (I assume) been able to buy a house in the neighborhood he wanted, a la redlining, where racist policies deemed he could only live in a certain neighborhood where housing prices did not increase in value. Housing values increasing were a huge contributor to wealth for white families in the last several decades, but not families of color.
Yes, several of my older white union coworkers are ok right now, financially, (unless they become terminally ill) but what about the persons of color and women denied membership in the union and denied a chance at the middle to upper middle class? What about reparations for native americans and the forty acres and a mule promised to former slaves? What if your grandpa had been Japanese and interned? (The government paid reparations to the Japanese).
What if your grandpa had been a sharecropping farmer in the south, which was indentured servitude?
It is not a myth that you can move from one social class to another, of course not, and no one said your grandpa is a bad person, but let us also 1) admit the american dream of economic movement involves a lot of luck and being born in the right place to HEALTHY parents, preferably of the right skin color and 2) the actual data that tracks socioeconomic mobility upward shows upward movement is really really low right now, if not impossible.
I totally get that O Tc! 🙂 (my grandparents were refugees so for sure not wealthy back home either- escaping war.) I understand your point!
Ok Betsy STOP. my dad has a heart condition and my mom has been battling cancer since I was a teen. It has not been smooth sailing. It is not much. That’s extremely offensive.
Class mobility in the US is harder now:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/chart-of-the-day-paul-ryan-wrong-about-upwardly-mobile-america
Original TC, that’s interesting about poor right-wing voters historically voting for more wealthy candidates. I’m not American but I also wonder if his ”brand” has something to do with it, and his persona on The Apprentice. I watched all of it and he portrays himself as a ”mans man/non-intellectual”, and Ivanka once described him as a ”blue collar billionaire”, in terms of his core personality. Her description was that he likes simple food (steaks, chips, pizza) and likes to watch sports, and walks around at home in his robe and slippers (I remember that so I laughed when Sean spicer recently said he doesn’t own a robe, Ivanka is on record saying otherwise!). On the Apprentice he’d often split the groups into 2; ”high school education” and ”college education”, and pit the teams against each other (book smarts Vs street smarts). I thought he clearly favored the ”street smarts” groups and preferred straight talking pragmatism over educated intellectualism. He also seems to consider himself some kind of tough guy. So if his voters watched that show and believed the persona, they may believe he’s a straight talking ”mans man” who will cut the crap and drain the swamp. Aside from the obvious bigots/racists, I do think his persona on that show was relatable to them, and perhaps was partially responsible for bridging that extraordinary gap between his real life as a billionaire living in a bubble, and those of working ”mens men” and women who got duped into thinking he was somehow on their level and gave a crap about them 🙁
T.C. ,people just don’t get that very understandable breakdown you spelled out. Kudos BTW for hitting the nail on the head. The Trump voters I know feel like they are one business scheme away from being wealthy. They feel they are a part of that class of people and don’t get elitism. Like of they ever met Ivanka or Jared they’d be besties. Or at least business partners. Meanwhile a mixed race black man who overcame every possible odd to become a successful, educated, family man makes them sick with disgust.
I disagree the Democrats are at fault. You can lead the horse to water but you can’t make him drink.
I’ve seen the theory that the rich create jobs. So to some poor people, if a rich guy gets elected, he’s going to create more jobs. That’s what all these rich mofos say. But really, most jobs are going to go overseas cause labor is cheaper. If we have more companies producing in America, yeah, we’ll have more jobs. But stuff will be more expensive due to companies having to pay minimum wage. Same if immigrants go back home, and Americans fill the jobs. Companies aren’t going to just eat the higher labor, they are going to pass it on to you.
Yes, it is the core of Republican economic policy: trickle down. If you sprinkle money on the rich by cutting income tax on unearned income, they will somehow create jobs with it for the less fortunate and so on and so on. I’ve been watching them try to give Ann Romney more tax cuts for years and I’ve yet to see her create a single job with any of the money she has.
@Snowflake I liked the documentary inequality for all by Robert Reich, where a rich business owner talks about how he became a democrat after being a repub for years, upon realizing his workers do way more for the economy with their consumption than he, a single guy, could ever do, and he wanted to help his business by helping his workers (a bit henry fordish I suppose)
Lightpurple, hope you and your grandma are doing ok. I 100% agree with you RE Ann Romney.
Oh,ok, will have to check it out!
“I hope all of those poor and middle class Trump voters are paying attention. ”
This statement is laughable and highly depressing. Having confidence in their ability to put things together concerning Trump means he would never have gotten elected. Now, they’re all digging their heels in and sticking to him. Whether it’s just lack of common sense or tribalism, I don’t know. However, the end result is the same: Trump. UGH!
No, they voted for him for sheer racism, sexism and the belief that them being poor is just temporary. They want everything and the minorities are taken it all away from them and they want it back. Those minorities got a little to comfortable calling them out and, being educated and succeeding.
I know people who are very comfortable financially and voted for him. Unfortunately, it wasn’t only poor whites who supported/still support him.
Upon review of the people I know and their arguments, I concluded: racism. Veiled racism.
WATP: I know some of these people as well. Financially well-off. My observation has been that they are racist, homophobic, or they vote republican no matter what because they are anti-choice (I call these single-issue voters). Or, they believe that Republicans will lower their taxes. They don’t want to contribute in any way to SNAP, welfare, public education (because they pay for private schooling for their kids), etc. because Ya know, all the lazy people should get jobs. No concern for the environment or humanity, just totally selfish pigs, just like their god, Trump.
WATP, yes. And the funny thing is in our local (non partisan) elections, a guy with no political experience is running for mayor and lots of these people are screaming about how experience matters and that he can’t just waltz into office expecting everything to run smoothly. It makes no sense that they support Trump…except that they care only about voting R. Even though the guy they support locally is a closeted D, lol.
@Who ARE These People? I read something that stated that Clinton took a higher proportion of votes from the poor, whilst those in red states would’ve along the usual traditional lines and some in blue states switched to Trump, I think it’s important to remember that Trump took a lot of votes from the middle class too and those in higher earning income brackets.
Yes sadly a lot of poor people voted against their interest but we mustn’t allow Trump voters from middle class to get off scott-free from the spectacle that is President Trump and his administration
i would say that roughly 85% of the people I know who voted for Trump are middle-class to extremely wealthy.
Sadly, I do think islamaphobia, racism etc played a part in their choice.
The people I know who voted for him (middle/upper middle class) did so because they hated Clinton so much that it would not have mattered who was running against her-they would have picked that candidate.
I know it doesn’t fit the narrative in these parts but, from The NY Times:
“Democrats have to grapple with the fact that they lost this election because millions of white working-class voters across the United States voted for Obama and then switched to Trump.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/15/upshot/how-did-trump-win-over-so-many-obama-voters.html
The coal miners they have interviewed that actually think cheeto will do anything to save an industry that was dying for decades are just deluded idiots. I come from an area where auto manufacturing made the area rich in the 50s and 60s, but by the late 70s and 80s, there was already trouble with that industry and lay offs happening periodically. Anyone with a brain could see that things were changing and that you have to have transferable skills when you have a physical labour type job.
The worst part is that these are the first ones to bitch about how bad socialism is, yet they want the government to prop up an industry that the market forces are killing.
@Nic919, not sure who those coal miners think is going to buy all that coal. Most places in the US now use other sources for electrical power, people and companies don’t use coal for heat any more. Trains don’t run on coal any more either.
If you watch just a few hours of Fox News, it would become crystal clear. Their take on the same stories is amazing. They twist and wrap stories and take them out of context like no other. It is hard to watch, but I definitely recommend it if you want to understand the trump supporter or want to get out of your echo chamber.
Greedy! There was an interesting piece about his management style and how he deliberately drove the Observer into ground in the WaPost this weekend. They will get themselves into serious problems because nobody in this administration has figured out that they work for the people or has the ability to self regulate.
On another note, Ivanka’s weave/wiglet and blonder than blonde look is Awful! Worst than Kate of Windsor.
Her hair looks natural and unremarkable to me, where’s the faux hair? High lights too light for the base and the nice dark brows though . I’d keep the brows and go to medium or dark blonde
Ivanka Trump was born with a silver spoon in her mouth. Ivanka was raised with all the comfort and privilege that great wealth can buy. She married rich too of course. I would find it a little hard to believe she can begin to comprehend the hardships many American families have to endure just to make ends meet. How is she going to benefit the American people as a whole when she is most likely focusing in making the upper crust richer.
Where are your tax returns, Agent Orange? Quit stalling. We want to see everything.
I find it absolutely extraordinary that the American people have no details of the president’s business interests. And that he is basically just retaining them. And that many are not bothered. The other day he lifted restrictions on sales of weapons to Bahrain, which is a repressive country previously invaded by Saudi Arabia and over which SA retains a great deal of control. I am sure that trump’s business Interests in SA were a major consideration here. But in many cases, those business interests are simply obscure. Totally ridiculous.
There was a lawsuit filed against him for violating the emolumentst clause upon his election by “Citizens For Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) v. Donald J. Trump” http://time.com/4643112/donald-trump-ethics-lawsuit-emoluments/
And I think one town on the East Coast is working on voting for articles of impeachment on this same violation.
Sen. Diane Feinstein hinted last week that the Democrats have and would use subpoena power if necessary to get his tax returns. She sits on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and is ranking member on the Judiciary committee.
Im surprised to hear that because I’ve definitely read that the tax returns thing is a tradition that’s been going On for half a century or something and that it isn’t a law. Also, if they want to make him do that, why now instead of before the election?
Fiorella, they couldn’t do it prior to the election bc he wasn’t an elected official part of an investigation. Now that he is part of the intelligence/FBI investigation they can ask for whatever they want and legally he has to turn it over.
Lama bean thank you for explaining that it’s not related to the tradition for candidates. Things are getting exciting I think (beginning of trumps downfall and people are starting to turn on him slowly but it’s a pattern.)
Yeah, drop everyone else’s on a Friday evening, with one glaring exception. The one who thinks his name is worth BILLIONS.
So they both own more than TheOrangeOne?
No the are not worth more than orange baby fists. Trump supposedly is worth 3 billion dollars, but his liquid assets are only 300 million dollars. Don’t get me wrong that is rich! But agent orange is always bragging that he is worth 7 billion dollars.
This makes good sense for Ivanka and Jared,to be as open and upfront to the public as possible. Then when the crap really starts to pile up around Trump they can appear to have clean hands. Let the dust settle for a few years and then either Ivanka or Jared will run for public office. May seem far fetched but is there anyone who could have predicted a year ago the US would have a twice divorced, multiple bankrupt,accused of sexual assault , reality show host/business man as President?
I don’t think Jared is going to escape the Russian fallout.
Jared also has zero charisma and seems to like work/skulk behind the scenes.
Ivanka, however, likes attention, especially from men. Wonder why…
And Princess Nagini the Corrupt of the Most Sacred Horcruxed Vagina is not going to escape conflict of interest and insider trading laws, no matter how much Gorelick argues that everything is oh so ethical. She made between $1-5 million off that hotel in just three months, a hotel whose land they rent from the US government, a hotel where they are conducting official White House business meetings, a hotel where they are advising lobbyists and foreign dignitaries to stay at.
The only reason they’ve now made Princess Nagini an “employee” is because Senators were pointing out that she would need to pay rent for White House office space otherwise.
I totally agree with you about Jared not escaping the Russian fall out. A few months ago I remember seeing Ivanka and Jared vacating with Putin girlfriend. Then about a month ago Putin’s girlfriend was seen visiting Ivanka and Jared at their home in Washington for the weekend. What better way to get their story together than vacationing and spending weekends together. Anyone who believe Ivanka and Jared has clean hands are fooling themselves, jmo
B n A fn: they’ve been photographed with her since mid-00s when she was still Murdoch’s wife. They both attended that ridiculous baptism in Jordan of her daughters in 2011 (or possibly 2010). The one that also had Tony Blair, The Queen of Jordan, Hugh Jackman and Nicole Kidman in attendance. You can see the pics in the attendant Hello magazine spread of the occasion.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/02/08/14/3CF6018F00000578-4203726-image-a-30_1486564618987.jpg
Ivanka is (or was) a trustee of Wendi’s daughters’ trustfund negotiated from Murdoch in the mid-00s.
https://www.ft.com/content/a615f0ce-ed90-11e6-930f-061b01e23655
http://fortune.com/2017/02/08/ivanka-trump-trustee-murdoch-daughters/
Further, Ivanka and Jared credit her with matchmaking them.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/wendi-deng-intervened-in-ivanka-trump-jared-kushners-2008-split-w434681
Further, all the Kushners, including the one who is dating Karlie Kloss have been hanging out with her for years.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/09/12/12/383DC72300000578-3784716-The_gang_s_all_here_Ivanka_Trump_and_husband_Jared_attended_the_-m-6_1473680909789.jpg
Not a defence, just stating that they’ve been hanging out since the mid-00s when she was very much Murdoch’s wife, with full expectations of remaining his wife for rest of her life.
Since her divorce, she’s been very visible with her various connections. The pic with Karlie Kloss also includes David Geffen aka Mr Hollywood as well as Dasha Abramovich who is a skip and a hop away from Putin, but she’s been friends (or publicly partying) with these people whilst married to Murdoch which means all these people are a skip and a hop away from Putin and have been for much longer than the last 5 years.
Just finished reading the replies to my post and the links Lak provided. I had no idea that Ivanka and Jared were connected to so many high profile people and powerful people. The Trump/Kushner families are like a modern day version of the Borgias.
So I’m just learning here at Celebitchy that Putin’s girlfriend is a friend of the Trump/Ivanka family for years????? Wow … lots of opportunities for collusion here!!! This is all getting creepier and creepier. C O M P L I C I T.
“Princess Nagini the Corrupt of the Most Sacred Horcruxed Vagina”
*bows*
50 points to Gryffindor
Read that they still have interest in the hotel in Washington D.C. So they are not totally clean.
And the best damn part is that they probably earned 1/3 of that (I’m being generous), and the rest of it is pure nepotism. They were handed absolutely everything. Including positions in the Jester’s court.
The wide discrepancy in the worth is actually due to the forms that politicians are given. They have ranges for levels which are estimates (e.g. $1-5 mn for a house) not exact amounts.
the WH was being very passive aggressive with their disclosure, basically they just dropped a whole load of papers with no heads or tails. and they’re not even releasing the whole thing outright.
so, if anyone is interested to help sift through the haystack, Pro Publica, NYT and AP are looking for volunteers to comb through all the financial disclosures of White House Senior Staffers (which yielded among others, the above report).
they have a Google Drive folder of it, and a form to fill in whenever you find something interesting you think needs more follow up on:
https://www.propublica.org/article/white-house-wouldnt-post-trump-staffers-financial-disclosures
Trump supporters always knew they were rich. Trump isnt shy about showing his wealth. They think he cares about the working clases because they are stupid and delusional.
They think that if a guy who seems like them can be rich, they can be rich too. Also, Trump supporters aren’t only in the working class. They are among the college-educated, middle and upper middle classes too — but there the support “narrows” to white men.
The WH threw us this bone as a manipulated diversion to put treason on the back burner if only for a minute. I wonder if this high figure includes the proceeds netted from the deal with the sanctioned Russian bank.
As Orange Voldemort screamed about Russia and Obama again and abruptly walked out of his own photo-op, Princess Nagini the Corrupt of the Most Sacred Horcruxed Vagina once again posted pictures of her kids to distract attention and get the Trumpets to coo about her beautiful family and the sacrifices they are all making for this country. Because forcing us to pay for 100 Secret Service agencies to go on a ski trip is a family sacrifice. She has stretched Theodore’s 1st birthday out on Twitter now for nearly a week.
One of the “lesser” fallouts from Watergate was that the opinion of lawyers took a massive hit. This is because the top officials given actual prison time from the Nixon Administration were lawyers. The ABA and law schools had to change their codes and classes respectively to reflect professional conduct by attorneys in the US.
Fast forward to 2017/2018:
The trump name will become synonymous with ethical, moral, and financial corruption and the “brand” will never be the same after top officials in this current administration, including Emperor Zero, go to prison for colluding with a foreign power to get into the WH.
Don’t forget, Diaper Bigly cannot be pardoned after this “shit sandwich*” implodes or explodes (DT’s own words for the ACA failing).
*shit sandwich courtesy of Harward, who bailed on becoming the NSA chief after Flynn got sacked.
Eric: I always enjoy your comments. They are spot on, you are clearly well-informed on these political and legal matters. One of my biggest fears has been, that Trump will go down and that Pence will be ‘just clean enough’ to take over, and then grant Trump a full pardon for his treason. I hope that they all go down together. But I wonder about the pardon thing, and you stated it won’t happen. Can you please explain that to this worried peon so I can have some peace of mind today?
Hi Juls.
https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardon-information-and-instructions
There are provisions in pardoning that will likely lead to greater offenses for trump and his minions, including a thorough investigation of all conduct throughout his tenure as candidate, GOP nominee, and prez.
If EZ-D is impeached for criminal activity that carries a prison sentence (let’s say it’s tax evasion, for example), the pardon sequence begins 5 years after the sentencing and requires an investigation of all activities associated with the presidency and his administration, which surely would include the Russia scandal and all it’s interwebbing (collusion, money laundering, treason, et al.).
Thanks Eric! Knowledge is power. I’m going to educate myself further on these issues. I live in blood-red TN and am represented by a gang of party-before-country imbeciles. At least I have the privilege of hounding them relentlessly by phone to express my distaste with their brand of “leadership.” I am not alone, there are a lot of like-minded people where I live. We are just drowned out by the bloviating conservatives here.
Juls. I may be slightly off in how the pardons work. See Ford pardoning Nixon. However, the political fallout with Ford pardoning Nixon cost him the 1976 election to Carter.
I guess theoretically Pence could pardon Trump on one count but it would cost Pence (and the repubs Bigly) and not absolve trump of other possible indictments.
Stay strong in TN!
Really appreciate your post. It’s been very informative. Excellent point about the political fallout post-pardons. I still think Pence will pardon Trump though. Presidents are generally pretty forgiving with one another because they might face a similar situation one day.
Republicans have a history of “blanket” pardons, granting pardons without any specific reference to any wrongdoing to staff and cabinet members. Reagan did it and then the first Bush handed out quite a few to Reagan staffers who were missed on the first co-around. He pardoned more of his own staff on the way out the door, as did Bush 2.
Saw a recap of Trump’s horror show of a campaign this weekend and am all over again dumbfounded/disgusted/sickened/shocked/insulted that this horrible bully/liar and his cohorts won the campaign with the approval/help of his plastic princess, Republicans and, of course, the Russians.
Russians might have had a hand as early as during the Primaries. You DON’T love American if you think Russia’s interference is no big deal … you love personal gain and party over country. You DON’T love country if you remain ignorant and say man made environmental damage is no big deal. The thinning ozone layer is NOT fake news folks …
Ivanka is C O M P LI C I T and could be locked up eventually for her part in the corrupt Trump family business and all their legal/moral/ethical violations. Trump University could be just a start.
Incidentally doesn’t Trump owe China a ton of money??? Why is he meeting the leader in Flordia rather than the WH. I think Trump is afraid of being spied on in the WH. Trump owes China millions as far as I’ve read. Trump is playing a two-sided game.
Trump owes everyone money. China just doesn’t have a pee tape.
Russia hacked Rubio’s campaign so yes, they were involved in the primaries.
Think of all the awesome things you could do for the world with that money. And they just want more and more. For what?
More plastic surgery.
I think this was referenced yesterday, but I can’t believe I am only now noticing how abnormally long Ivanka’s neck is. If necks weren’t – I believe – one of the few areas of the body that can’t have “work” done on them, I’d think she had had cosmetic surgery!
Well, for one, I wish they’d stop draining taxpayers and use their own security.
Because they’re trash who think that more and more and more makes them important.
Pay for your own security …. you certainly can afford it Ivanka!!!!!
Adam Khan connects all the dots in following the money on Twitter. @Khanoisseur has 20-40 post threads detailing the intricacies of foreign financing for Trump and Kushner projects. Kushner has debt of $4,000,000,000. These threads name names, give dates and charts of players involved. All very interesting. Other people on Twitter who have information are @PoliticusSarah, @johnastoehr, @RoguePOTUSStaff, @LeonardPittsJr1, @AltStateDpt @yashar, @LouiseMensch
@SethAbramson is also a good source
http://twitter.com/sethabramson/status/848313555698974720
Rogue Potis Staff is likely run by Bannon or Miller – do NOT recommend it. They spend more time attacking the people who Tweet them than actually “leaking” anything of substance. Fake account for sure.
Yeah, I’ve seen several people warn about that account.
The alt accounts for the various national parks continue to be a great source of information and entertainment.
Indivisible has more helpful tips for resisting:
http://www.indivisibleguide.com/resources-2/april-recess-policy-priorities
Also dailyaction.org has a great system where you get an alert per day.
And Trump is still ranting about leaks, fake news, and Obama. He says “the love and strength” of the Repubs will take down Obamacare. Wtf??
The self-love and destructive strength, more like. The fall-out from this administration will rival any natural disaster this nation has yet experienced.
Love of what, exactly? Killing people?
LA Times is starting an editorial thread on the trainwreck that is trump. Here’s Part 1:
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-ed-our-dishonest-president/
Parts 2, 3, etc. will continue this week.
I listened today to a very disturbing programme about Trump’s cosy relationship with the dreadful people denying that the heartbreaking Sandy Hook massacre ever took place. This from the same crew that invented the Bowling Green massacre. Surreal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-39194035
That is terrifying and saddening … The best people hmmmm
I wonder how much they’re worth in terms of liquid assets. They may own hundreds of millions of dollars worth of real estate, but they have to keep owning those properties to make an income. I especially wonder if these disclosure forms include debts? What if they own $700 million in real estate, but owe $500 million on those properties and have $100k in the bank cash?
This financial disclosure is fitting to the narrative as to why Kushner and Ivanka want to be so involved with 45 – to save/build on their investments. If what is circulating is true – that Kushner is $Bs in debt – then I am more inclined to believe it because you don’t get into that kind of debt with assets of a few million. No, you need to put in hundreds of $Ms to be entitled to that kind of risk. This then lends credit as to why I/K would seek a position in government – to get others with deep pockets (ahem, the Chinese and/or Russians) to invest in holdings to their benefit.
With all that dough, why did she take an unpaid internship at the White House to study “co-conspiracy” with her dad? Hers will be the most fashionable perp walk since Leona Helmsley’s.
Ivanka the stunt queen. The coach seats on Jet Blue a few months back comes to mind… Worth hundreds of millions, yet decide to fly with the peasants from NY to SF.
I can barely stomach anyone in that organization, but I’m not going to fault them for being born into rich families or being smart enough to buils on to their wealth even before this election. That would be like hating someone because they are filrhy rich and you’re not.
Besides, with this clan, there are SOOOO many more valid reasons to despise this pair.