Prince Harry arrives in Toronto ahead of the Invictus Games (and his engagement)

Royal Candian engagements as part of Invictus games

We’re inching closer! SO CLOSE. Soon we’ll have a royal engagement and the gossip world will rejoice! Here are some photos of Prince Harry in Toronto today, at the True Patriot Love Symposium. Harry arrived in Toronto ahead of the Invictus Games, which start tomorrow. Toronto is really doing it right, and the Toronto games should be even bigger than last year’s Invictus Games in Florida. Harry should be proud of what he’s built, and this might be his best “royal work” so far.

Many believe – many KNOW – that Meghan Markle will be making an appearance at the Invictus Games at some point. My guess is that Meghan will be seated next to Harry during the Opening Ceremony tomorrow, and then she’ll be sitting there, clapping, whenever he gets up to make a speech. Sources claim that Meghan will not be going to every event at the Invictus Games, so don’t expect that. Meg and Harry will not be joined at the hip. But she will be there, at some point, to support him. And as soon as those photos come out, the engagement will be as good as done. The announcement will be a mere formality after the games.

So enjoy these moments – Prince Harry’s last days as a single bloke. He waited until he found Meghan and I hope they will be very happy together. I look forward to the gossip wars to come!

Royal Candian engagements as part of Invictus games

Royal Candian engagements as part of Invictus games

Photos courtesy of WENN.

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  1. deezee says:

    His first stop was at my work this morning. Half the staff went to the lobby to catch a glimpse of him. LOL

  2. Squiggisbig says:

    I will miss his playful banter with Michelle Obama leading up to the games this year.

    Best of luck to him and Meg! Hopefully a wife for Harry can boost the numbers for the younger royals.

  3. Maria says:

    We Torontonians are super excited! At least this one is. He spoke at a breakfast this morning.
    Go Harry, go!

  4. PIa says:

    The Games are getting buzz here in the city (although they were overshadowed by TIFF’s presence at the start of September), with the Boss playing the Closing Ceremony, and decent acts for the opening ceremony like Alessia Cara.

    I was walking downtown (Toronto) yesterday and was surrounded by those on wheelchairs, amputees, and other athletes. They were all taking pictures of the city and seemed thrilled to be here.

    PS: I really hope Meghan has new PR, cannot take anymore “multilingual organic home-cook” PR releases.

  5. CynicalAnn says:

    She has great style-looking forward to seeing all her cute outfits. And what tiara for her wedding? Are there any that were Diana’s that she might wear? Or she has to borrow from the Queen? I need something sweet and happy to counteract Trump news.

  6. GiBee says:

    Let’s hope he doesn’t dress like a Nazi this time!

      • GiBee says:

        What honor and courage he’s shown restraining himself from it.

        Toronto’s pretty diverse, so if he could avoid calling people “Pakis”, as he enjoys doing, that might be for the best too.

      • PrincessK says:

        @GiBee…touche …ouch! We don’t talk about that little episode, poor Harry did not understand that the language was hurtful and disrespectful, he thought it was banter. That’s the problem of mixing with too many silly upper class twits. Anyway he was given anti racist diversity training. The truth is Harry was used as a scapegoat, everyone was using that type of language and he of course being a prince was picked in.

      • Enough Already says:

        Rubbish. Harry was old enough to know better when he told a comedian who performed at a function for Prince Charles “You’re pretty funny for a black chap.” Scapegoat? Just no.

    • Peeking in says:

      He made a stupid decision when he was 20 years old. I’m not excusing the swastika usage because that was vile, but it was 12 years ago. Maybe give him a break?
      The Invictus Games is a huge boost for these veterans, and has nothing to do with something a 20yr old spoiled prince did.

      • MommyMaura says:

        Idk, It’s just snark, plus people bring up what W&K did years ago and every other celeb on this site, so why can’t a little fun be had?
        I’m positive he won’t dress as a Nazi again.
        And I applaud him for all the good work he’s does.

      • Skylark says:

        Yeah, agree. Let the past be and keep the focus on the good he’s done since and, of course, the people who make this event so special. I’d love to be there.

        Enjoy it, those of you who are!

      • GiBee says:

        I think he definitely gets a break.
        I mean, people hardly ever talk about his Nazi cosplay, or calling people Paki. So… I’d say that’s a break.

      • Enough Already says:

        It wasn’t a stupid mistake when he was twenty it was several stupid mistakes throughout his twenties. It certainly doesn’t fall within the rules of celebrity gossip to forget past indiscretions and just focus on the latest, shiniest PR coup. Having said that I think it’s not the end of the world to discuss his missteps because it positively highlights what an admirable, charming and poised young man he has become. I hate whitewashing Harry and he’s occasionally problematic but no question that he’s a great guy and an asset to the rf.

      • Erinn says:

        Just putting it out there – Kate still gets more shit for being ‘waity’ when she was in her 20s than Harry gets for dressing as a nazi at the same age.

      • Sarah says:

        Harry may have hidden his spots, but 20 year olds I know, and I know a lot since I have taught 18 year olds for 26 years, they all know better than to wear a Nazi uniform for fun. I thought Harry maybe changed his spots until I read his whining and threatening reporters. He is an entitled unemployed Nazi-uniform wearing twit. And dont tell me he is not a Nazi or racist cause Meghan is biracial. When someone shows you who they are — believe them.

      • Liberty says:

        William was in the costume shop with Harry when the costume was rented and did not guide him away from it …..a 2005 report noted that Charles was thus furious at both sons and ordered them to visit a German concentration camp to educate themselves. No idea if they ever did, but I would hope they did.

      • magnoliarose says:

        @Sarah He is not a Nazi, and I would appreciate it if you wouldn’t throw that around just to smear someone. We have Neo-Nazis ramping up racism and anti-Semitism in America at the moment. It is also very disrespectful.

        He was an overprivileged idiot who took his older brother’s advice and wore a stupid offensive uniform as a costume 12 years ago. What more is there to say about it? You can forgive someone and like them without pretending that they are perfect.

      • Peeking in says:

        Thanks, Magnoliarose.
        I guess no one who has ever been racially insensitive, is allowed to get educate, change, and move on. From what I’ve seen, he wasn’t the only one messing around and calling names in that video, he even made fun of his grand mother. Not that – that’s any excuse.
        I’m not sure what Sarah is talking about whining and threatening reporters. Even if he did, how does that make him a Nazi?
        I can’t with all this vitriol.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Peeking You are welcome.

        Hopefully none of us are the same people we were at 20. Life is about growth and learning from mistakes. I like to deal with people as they are today, not who they were over a decade ago. You can’t change your past.

    • Casey says:

      You sound very snide @gibee

      Dude is marrying a black/biracial woman, so you sneering about dumb stuff he said or did as an adolescent rings hollow and petty.

      • GiBee says:

        Man, I wish I was considered an adolescent at 21, instead of an adult with a job.
        Ah well. I didn’t have a strong desire to call people “ragheads”, at any age, so it doesn’t matter much.

      • MommyMaura says:

        I don’t see a problem. I thought the comment was funny.
        Go on any W&K thread people are still talking about Kate falling out at bars in college or a bunch of past misdeeds.
        Harry is not the person he was at 20 and I have nothing against him or MM.

      • GiBee says:

        I think different people have different tolerance levels for racist terms.

        I don’t think any amount of calling people Paki or raghead is good. And if the person doing so is over the age of, oh let’s say, 15 I don’t think it’s something to be swept under the rug.

        My tolerance level for people using racial epithets is lower than that of others, and I understand that.

      • Jessica says:


        Several points I like to counter you on. Dating someone of a different race doesn’t automatically make you anti-racist. A white woman is being accused of calling her black husband (a NFL player) of racial slurs and I hear a lot of stories about white parents making racist remarks to their biracial children. Also Harry wasn’t a adolescent when he dressed up in that costume he was about 23 (I believe).

      • Megan says:

        Of course there is never an excuse for racism, but people are allowed to learn from their mistakes and grow.

      • Sarah says:

        Adolescent???? He was 20, not 14. Unless Harry has a serious disability that disallows him from having good judgement, he was an adult. I used to think he matured, but I think he is still entitled petulant brat. We shall see.

      • magnoliarose says:

        If Jewish groups accepted his apology then I have no idea why any of you can’t. So much anger toward someone who has grown up made ammends and moved on. Why can’t you?

      • Liberty says:

        There are a lot of things I would never hire a university student to do that I would trust a 30 year old to do. And that my friends is as simply as I can describe the process of maturing, based on the science of human brain development and life experience. This board must be composed of teen physicists, nuns, Nancy Drew and people who devoted their lives to selling insurance at age 17. What he did was ignorant and offensive, but time and life experience grow awareness. That is why people can feel remorse for stupid things and grow. Growth is still allowed, hmm?

      • jwoolman says:

        It does sound as though their father took the Nazi costume incident very seriously. He didn’t brush it off as youthful indiscretion. Hopefully that made some impression.

    • Peeking in says:

      MommyMaura – I have no issue with bringing up past bad behaviour. The Invictus Games is such a great positive thing, I didn’t think the Nazi reference was necessary.
      Gibee – I know Toronto is diverse, infact, it’s the most diverse city in the world (I’ll provide a link for this if needed), I live here. I’m certain Harry wont be calling anyone Paki here, either.
      ETA – Gibee, you said that racism shouldn’t be swept under the rug, I agree. But what would you have him do? He said some stupid sh!t at age 20-21. He apologised, and hasn’t repeated them (that we know of) since. Should we be trotting these incidents out on every story about Harry? When should we stop? When he’s 50, 60, 75?

      • GiBee says:

        Why would we need a link? I also know it’s diverse. That’s why I mentioned it.

        I’m very glad you’re certain! I’ll be impressed if he doesn’t use that term on this visit. Just as I’m impressed when Trump gets through a speech WITHOUT talking about grabbing someone by the pussy. You never know with guys so fond of locker room talk. Here’s hoping though!

      • GiBee says:

        As he’s related to Prince Philip, I don’t doubt we’ll have NEW racist incidents to trot out when he’s 50, 60, and 75!
        But to answer your question, yes. Yes we should. I mean, as pointed out above, it seems we currently don’t blame “adolescents” in their 20s for their racist speech. Apparently no one told Harry racism was bad, so he said racist things. And considering the political climate we find ourselves in, that’s even more troubling.

        Perhaps if young people understood that these mistakes might follow them around, they wouldn’t do that? And perhaps people of certain backgrounds in the UK and other Commonwealth countries wouldn’t have to walk around knowing the sixth in the line to throne thinks of them as nothing more than a raghead Paki.

      • Nlopez says:

        +1000. Peekingin. I did lots of dumb stuff in my 20s.

      • Jaded says:

        @Gibee – “I’ll be impressed if he doesn’t use that term on this visit.”

        You win the internets for one of the most ludicrous statements I’ve ever heard. Of course he’s not going to use that term, Young men are still boys. They do dumb things, many more dumb things that most young women. Then they grow up and become nice people. So lighten up, he’s grown into a responsible and hard-working young man who has atoned for his early sins.

      • GiBee says:

        @Jaded – agreed, I think if the last year has taught us anything it’s that men engage in “locker room talk” and they should never be held accountable for their actions of a decade ago. Right?

      • Sarah says:

        Does he call people Paki and ragheads? And it wasnt just that he said some careless things. Come on. Harry, as an adult, went out and found or had a Nazi uniform made, he put it on, and went to a party. We beat up on people who SAY one bad thing. Harry went WAY beyond that.

      • Peeking in says:

        Sarah, you seem really angry for something that happened 12 years ago. “Does he call people paki and raghead?” No he doesn’t, he made an insensitive comment years ago, whilst fooling around with his fellow soldiers, and he wasn’t the only one to say similar words. Again, it’s not an excuse, but, please get some perspective.

      • Peeking in says:

        Sarah, you seem really angry for something that happened 12 years ago. “Does he call people paki and raghead?” No he doesn’t, he made an insensitive comment years ago, whilst fooling around with his fellow soldiers, and he wasn’t the only one to say similar words. Again, it’s not an excuse, but, please get some perspective.

      • Peeking in says:

        Comment posted multiple times.

    • Peeking in says:

      Gibee – Cut the cr@p! Now you’re going to compare Harry and Trump? That’s madness.

      See my edit above to the comment you responded to regarding racism.

      I said I’d provide a link because I made a big claim “most diverse” without providing evidence.

    • Peeking in says:

      Gibee – When/If Harry missteps again by being racially insensitive, then I’ll join the bandwagon and roast him. The Trump comparison is over the top.
      Since the racist incidents when he was 20/21, there has been nothing. The idea that you’ll be shocked if he doesn’t use the term “Paki” in Toronto is kind of baffling to me. You seem to believe that Harry is racist in his core, if so, then we’ll know in due time. Until then, I’ll choose to give him the benefit of the doubt, and believe that he has learnt his lesson, and is more racially sensitive. 🤷‍♀️

      • Skylark says:

        @GiBee – As much as I agree with you re there being no excuse ever for casual racism – and most certainly not from the entitled Harry when he was more than old enough to know better – I’d like to think that he’s learned from his idiot past and genuinely is coming from a more enlightened and educated place at this stage of his life. If he were guilty of public recidivism, then he would 100% deserve your and mine and everyone else’s disgust. But he’s not so really not sure why you’re intent on assuming he’s still the ignorant casual racist twat he was back in his 20s?

        @Peeking in – Absolutely.

      • GiBee says:

        HI Peeking in, I’m glad this is staying civil and commend you for saying that if he says something that racist again, you’ll be unhappy.
        As I said above, I think some people are more sensitive to racist speech and I’m one of them. If I found out a friend had been liberally using the n word in college, I would end that friendship. 21 is an adult. I don’t believe people grow out of that, if they are using those terms when they are already adults.

        Personally I don’t understand how a many in his 20s need to be told not to use the terms raghead and Paki, or needs to be educated about these terms. I don’t consider this on par with, for example, someone in their 70s using the term “oriental”. I don’t think anyone in the mid-2000s thought raghead was an honorific term. Harry’s lack of intelligence is pretty common knowledge, but I should think even he knows that.

        But your optimism is lovely!

      • Ravine says:

        To be fair, GiBee, I don’t think Harry thought those were “honorific” terms either. He was using them casually to refer to someone he knew closely, and from the context it seemed like a laddish nickname that was used by the whole group and that the guy in question was okay with as far as that workplace was concerned. They probably called Harry “Ginger Pubes” or something. I absolutely agree that he was stupid to whip it out in front of the cameras, because yes, it’s a racist term and it made him look like a dimwitted douchebag while also potentially setting a bad example — I’m not excusing him there –, but I don’t think it was coming from a place of hatred. The social norms of a bunch of soldiers are vastly different from those of a graduate school postcolonial studies seminar group; I really don’t think that’s a shocking fact or a big deal, as long as it doesn’t go beyond mutual banter.

      • PrincessK says:

        Harry was the scapegoat in this particular incident, everybody was using those terms but being a prince he got shopped! Very difficult for him, he was probably trying too hard to be ‘one of the lads’ at the barracks and dropped himself in it.

      • Sarah says:

        For Pete’s sake, it is really stunning the excuses people are making for an adult wearing a Nazi uniform for fun, and calling people Pakis and ragheads!!! So it is ok for him to speak that way since he was a soldier? I’m saving these comments for when Brad Pitt or another ADULT people here don’t like says something like that or if Brooklyn Becjham wears a Nazi uniform and see what you all say.
        It is true, royalty get away with a,lot more than other celebrities.

      • Ravine says:

        Re: those slurs in that context, I wouldn’t say it’s “okay” as in “not at all objectionable,” but more “okay” as in “meh, ultimately a minor incident not worth frothing at the mouth over.” When I see him interacting with recent immigrants, severely disabled children, injured veterans, etc., I don’t think to myself “sure, sure, but ONE TIME while he was in the army he said a word that offended me, therefore he’s CLEARLY a terrible person and faking all his so-called empathy and tolerance ten years later! BOO! HISS!!! MONSTER!!!!” I’ve forgiven friends and family for worse, so why should his mistakes be any different just because they were made in public? Lots of people do stupid stuff in their early twenties (know your Facebook privacy settings, kids!) — I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point. He’d better not screw up again, though!

      • Enough Already says:

        It’s not just the Paki and raghead comments. He told a comedian he was “pretty funny for a black chap.” This speaks to a pattern of behavior so casual it can only be the result of centuries of feeling you are superior to others, similar to Philip. It’s disgusting because it is so flippant, relaxed and careless. But it did not come from a place of hatred, just ignorance, limited experiences and immense privilege. Harry was reportedly mortified and deeply saddened when the gravity of what he had done was made clear to him. He was sorry and apologized with sincerity which puts him light years ahead of people like Prince Philip and even the Queen Mother, a true racist. I don’t think it is fair or helpful to not acknowledge that Harry has changed or grown as a human being. I hate when people make excuses for him and try to rewrite history as well but that doesn’t prevent me from seeing that Harry has turned out to be a great guy. Lastly, I don’t think it’s healthy to draw the line in the sand for what others should feel offended by or set an expiration date on it. As for calling him a Nazi…please stop using that label as a catch-all synonym for evil. It desensitizes and cheapens the impact of a truly horric time in world history. Just sayin’.

      • PrincessK says:

        Well I sometimes give people over 90, who are just products of their time, a bit of slack sometimes when they make certain ‘racist’ comments, that I would not give to younger people.

        Anyway I am going to stir the pot a bit and mention another Harry ‘blunder’. When Harry first started dating Chelsy he said that she was from Zimbabwe, I don’t know if his friends pulled their faces, but he quickly added, “She is not black or anything”. But I am not reading too much in to this because I also heard that when Harry was much younger he had a sweetheart who was a Nigerian girl in a boarding school in the UK. I think Harry is definitely attracted to women with African connections. Cressida was an aberration and just pressure to find a suitable blonde blue eyed wife. Harry has now followed his heart.

        I have a theory that there is a strong attraction between red haired men and black women, I notice a disproportionate number of this type of pairing.

      • Enough Already says:

        Harry also saw a nightclub waitress off and on for a couple of years – casual/fun times but definitely low-key because she was black. Very interesting about the ginger connection. My sisters’ great great uncles were Irish brothers who both married black women. It was early 20th century in North Carolina so it was not easy. The townspeople were upset because the union was interracial and the brothers were outsiders from County Cork. The brides’ families were upset because the brothers were arrogant, had horrible tempers and were Catholic. Only the brothers were happy because frankly, everyone else was unhappy lol.

      • PrincessK says:

        @EnoughAlready…interesting story, I always wonder what life must have been like back then for interracial couples.

    • Peeking in says:

      Notice how the conversation has been derailed into 12 year old bad behaviour, and we’re not talking about the Invictus Games, and those awesome injured veterans. That was my point.
      I’m done contributing.

    • mar_time says:

      Gibee my best friend in high school was a Pakistani girl who called herself a Paki so I didn’t know it was a slur until very recently. Obviously I knew not to dress as a Nazi but imagine if someone heard me use the term and thought I was a racist? Also, 21 is very young…you’re an adult, yes, but your early twenties are an extension of your teens. People become actual grown ups closer to 25-30, that may sound crazy to you but that’s what I have observed. I, too, give him the benefit of the doubt.

      • Sarah says:

        I used to maybe give Harry a pass, but I think he is an entitled twit. Add in his Grandfather, who is a horrendous racist (and no one seems ro mind, but he is in his 90s and of a different time) and I think it is systemic in the royal family. And I teach 17 and 18 year olds, and like it or not, they are adults. If they did what Harry did at 18, they would have been in huge trouble, maybe even hate crime trouble. At least it would be considered some kind of race bullying.

      • Ravine says:

        I don’t think you can declare anything “systemic” based on two people…

    • MommyMaura says:

      @Erinn I agree. I do not think Harry is a bad person and he has grown as a person. I just hope next time someone brings up something Kate did in her 20′s (none of it is half as bad as dressing as Nazi) I hope I see a bunch of people standing up for her.
      And before I get replies of, “hey carole” or something immature, I’m not a stan, I’m just a long time reader who has an opinion, just like everyone else.

      • Maria says:

        It wasn’t Kate falling out of bars in her twenties that was the problem, it was the absence of anything else that was the problem. She wasn’t papped going to work, because she didn’t work, nor did she do charity work.
        Harry is doing something very positive with Invictus games. What he did when he was 21 is overshadowed by what he is doing now. Unfortunately that is not the case with Kate.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate Middleton hasn’t worn her Playboy bunny ears again in public, after wearing them to the debut of a short film about her favorite bedroom toy the Rampant Rabbit. Not has she worn her offensive “Indian” headdress again in public. William hasn’t gone to another party dressed as an “African Native” in public again, which was his costume for the same party as Harry. Why assume Harry would be dumb enough to re-wear the outfit (William picked out for him) again?

      • MommyMaura says:

        Those are barely playboy bunny ears, if anything they are cheap Easter bunny ears you give kids.
        And if William “suggested” Harry wear it, Harry is still responsible for his own self. Can we stop acting like he was child? He’s a well-adjusted adult now, but the excuse of William picking out a horribly offensive outfit and Harry wearing said horrible offensive outfit does not excuse Harry of anything.
        In fact, I’d even say it means that he shares the same terrible sense humor that Will apparently does.
        And the same ignorance.
        “Playboy Bunny “ears and sex toys are not at all comparable to headdresses and Nazi costumes.

      • GiBee says:

        How dare a woman enjoy sex! That’s pretty much the same thing as dressing as a Nazi. At least, Jeff Sessions would probably agree with that.
        Well maybe Ted Cruz.
        Jeff Sessions would most likely think dressing like a Nazi is more forgivable than putting some bunny ears on.
        Hey, perhaps he’s part of the Celebitchy commentating group then?

      • notasugarhere says:

        I’m not saying one is more acceptable than the other, but enjoy how both of you skipped over being at the premiere of the movie about her sex toy and William’s racist costume. Never said she shouldn’t enjoy sex, but when you’re the public girlfriend of the 2nd in line, do you go to parties about your favorite sex toy or do you show a little discretion? When you’re already being called “The Mattress” by the RPOs and the press, maybe discretion would be a good idea. Point being, those things aren’t brought up frequently by most people but Harry’s is.

      • MommyMaura says:

        Kate’s history is brought up WAY more than Harry wearing a Nazi costume.
        I’m also not about to talk about stuff I have no proof of.
        I’m not about to talk about some, “movie premiere” because I saw no proof of that.
        I googled it three times and the only thing I can speak of is the picture of her with cheap bunny ears on.
        Also, anyone who calls a woman a mattress is the one at fault, not the women. That’s disgusting, sexist and demeaning.
        I mentioned in my posts that, “Bunny ears and sex toys are nowhere near as bad as headdresses and Nazi costumes” which condemned everyone.
        I have no issue with Harry and I apologize to everyone for derailing this post with bs.

      • Enough Already says:

        Kate did not attend a movie about her favorite sex toy for goodness’ sake. She attended a movie premiere/launch to support a posh friend who had a sex toy company. What is indiscreet about a young woman doing that, regardless of whom she’s dating? It’s not like she went dressed as a, I don’t know, tampon or anything. The ’30s called – they want their smelling salts back. Shall we pretend Kate is not slut shamed here?

      • Sarah says:

        So a sex toy = Nazi uniform. Got it.
        And William is a racist like Harry. So he doesnt get a pass from me. They are both like their Granddaddy.

      • Polly says:

        The blatant slut shaming surprises me on such a “feminist” site. Why can’t people acknowledge that Harry has made mistakes without dragging Kate or blaming William?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Not saying Harry’s hasn’t made mistakes, albeit with his idiot brother leading the way in his own racist costume.

        If she was dating anyone else, it would still raise eyebrows for some. When she’s dating a potential future monarch, it isn’t pearl clutching to expect a tiny bit of discretion. Kate Middleton made the choice to be nothing more than a convenient bed mate for a decade, their relationship beginning with him cheating with her behind his girlfriend’s back. Let’s begin the anti-feminist argument with her own behavior, eh?

      • Enough Already says:

        Feminism is about empowerment through equal access to rights and privileges. Virtue signalling is wrong and injurious to women and should have no place in modern conversations by and about women. The nature of Kate’s physical relationship is none of anyone’s business. As for discretion, that is objective. What one considers shameful conduct is often an interpretation. Kate owes no one an explanation about her sexual history and it is gauche to discuss it or speculate on it, even if one doesn’t like her. Regardless of anyone presuming that Kate was only a bedmate the fact is many years have gone by and she is a wife and mother who should be criticized for more legitimate blunders, imo. Bringing up her sex life with her then boyfriend is just icky and rather bizarre.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Bringing up her behavior for a decade prior to marrying into a politically powerful (and ridiculously privileged) family is valid IMO. As is discussion of the choice the two of them made to have sex for months behind the back of his public girlfriend. She chose to be a convenient and often hidden (because he refused to acknowledge her) bedmate. That is a choice she made, and given that she’s held up by some of her “fans” as a role model, it makes for interesting discussion.

  7. heather says:

    YAY, I am brimming with glee over Harry’s possible engagement! He is my favorite royal and there is just something about him – he has that charm and ability to connect with people, like his mother. I never get tired of photos of him laughing with kids, kissing dogs, and charming old folks and vets. Harry is an absolute doll. I don’t know much about her, but Megan is stunning and I look forward to seeing her “personality” come through if she is thrust in the spotlight! I wish the two boys (Will and Harry) nothing but happiness.

  8. Chaine says:

    That comb-forward is getting pretty bad! He needs to give in to the baldness SOON and just own it!

    • Erinn says:

      I don’t understand why more famous, wealthy men don’t go the Steve Carell route. Season 1 of the office compared to later episodes is like night and day. If they’re self-conscious enough to try to hide it, and wealthy enough to afford it, I don’t really get why they wouldn’t look into it as an option.

      • Natalie S says:

        I think the plugs look in Season 1 was fake. It was meant to make Michael Scott look more desperate and off-putting and they softened his character a bit after that.

        Matthew McConasomething was losing his hair and admitted to getting some kind of treatment for it. He looks pretty good.

      • Erinn says:

        That’s possible, Natalie. If it’s fake, it was done well – in either scenario, really. It could be strategic haircuts making it look like he has more than he does – I find there’s a lot of guys that are questionable on that front – you can’t really tell because they let their hair grow a bit longer and are using volume to their advantage.

        MM most likely got something done – and his looks good.

      • nic919 says:

        I think it was fake too, only because Steve Carrell did not have bad hair like that when he was on the Daily Show just the year before.

  9. Zondie says:

    Kudos to Harry for the work he has done for the wounded!!

  10. Mermaid says:

    I’m going to miss seeing him with Michelle Obama. They were so fun to watch together!!! I am down for this wedding. Meghan will be a gorgeous bride. Harry has his mother’s warmth with people.

  11. Jessica says:

    He’s only slightly more personable and good-looking than his brother so I don’t understand the complete resentment towards William and the fawning of Harry. I do want to see a royal wedding though; I thought Will and Cath’s was a wee bit of a let down for their status.

    • SoulSPA says:

      IMO William has done of very bad job regarding his duties as second-in-line. People have high expectations of him, as they should. And he has the obligation to live up to the expectations of him. Also, his petulant attitude and sheer spite towards the public. The fact that his wife does next to nothing work-wise, does not help his image.
      I do understand that Harry has had a wild streak and seems to be work-shy too, but he’s been active in the army for several years, did tours in Afghanistan, we actually hear from time to time about his charity work, and he is behind this amazing event Invictus Games. He’s done stupid things some years ago and was reprimanded severely. But he does deserve a sporting chance.

      • whatever says:

        “and he is behind this amazing event Invictus Games”

        Isn’t IG just a copy of another similar event? PH has done well in getting publicity for this event and it’s cause but its easy to copy the best part of already existing events, its another thing entirely to use your brain to come up with something new.

      • Megan says:

        @whatever He modeled Invictus after the Wounded Warrior games in the US. Just because the idea wasn’t purely his own doesn’t diminish the importance or value of what he has done. Sheesh.

      • Enough Already says:

        If he is supporting a worthy cause and spotlighting an event that brings hope to thousands of veterans does he really have to reinvent the wheel?

      • Jessica says:


        I understand what you are saying but that still only makes him slightly better than William. I slightly dislike William but I think Harry is fine (I’m very neutral towards him). I just don’t understand the fawning as if he’s so much better William.

      • Sarah says:

        Come on, Harry is petulant, too. Hates the media as much as Will. Whined about being royal, also. And he has 2 charities that others manage for him and he does an hour or so of work, what, 70 days a year? He is lazy like Will, unemployed and entitled. The completely unearned privilege these people enjoy, and their lack of gratitude and work done to show appreciation of it really annoys me. If I were British, I would be sharoening my pitchfork and lighting my torch. :)

      • Peeking in says:

        Sarah – get a grip. You’re way too angry at Harry. First the anger for things he did 12 years ago, now he’s whining too much. Why are you so upset? I don’t understand it. Gibee had different opinions, but she seemed to be coming from a place completely different from you. You seem full of boiling anger. It’s just the comment section of a gossip blog.
        I think risking his life in Afghanistan in actual combat counts as work. He is now a veteran. LOL

    • magnoliarose says:

      He is more liked because he presents himself better, and he isn’t going to be the monarch. William and Kate live an extremely luxurious life and neither want to step up to earn any of it. A bachelor Prince who isn’t spending a couple a hundred thousand a year on a wardrobe or skipping out on duties will never get the same backlash.
      William is free to step aside and live the life of a country gentleman, but he likes the perks.
      You can’t expect from Harry even close to what you should expect from William.

      William doesn’t even have to run an empire for crying out loud. His life is easy but he acts like he is so put upon and tormented. It is ridiculous.

      • Peeking in says:

        Jessica – Meghan has already been a volunteer for several years. She grew up with a mother who is very involved in social work. She has a great work ethic. I’d be shocked if her work load didn’t eclipse Catherine’s. Having said that, it may take a while, as she and Henry may want to start a family right away.

  12. seesittellsit says:

    Bring it! I want my $10 check and to wallow in the flap.

  13. Kay Dozier says:

    It’s kind of sad how much I’m looking forward to seeing all this. The state the country is in has been really depressing me. Then this week with throwing my back out of whack and having to euthanize my cat, I’m in desperate need of some good royal gossip!

  14. Joanie says:

    Oh yum! Wonder who the dark haired guy is walking beside him?

  15. nic919 says:

    So Harry is going to visit CAMH tomorrow, and I live two blocks away from there. There is apparently a “greeting area” for members of the public. Maybe I will just invite him over for coffee after.

  16. Maria says:

    Love is in the polluted, hot, Toronto air!

  17. Mazzie says:

    Right! I forgot (genuinely) that he was in town. Going to have to avoid the Union Station area.

  18. Swan Lake says:

    I guess I’m neutral about Harry and the Cambridges all. I know little about MM except what I’ve seen on this site, but I guess we have to brace ourselves for a publicity storm. Toronto is a lovely city, just as Canada is a lovely country.

  19. Barb says:

    Not everyone is a fan of Markle. I really hope there is not any engagement.

    • seesittellsit says:

      @Barb – no fan of either him or her, but just the same, think you are in for a disappointment. At this point, Harry is backed into a corner by the massive PR around the relationship, ironically not unlike the way his father was with the oh so appealing Diana. At this point, even if he wanted to delay or even not marry her, he’s well and truly stuck. Hopefully, he’s happy about it. No matter how I feel about people personally, there’s no hell on earth like a bad marriage and I wish it on no one.

    • Helen Smith says:

      Me too Barb. I am not excited for a Harry and Meghan engagement either.

      • Enough Already says:

        *waits with Bluhare, cringes*

      • whatever says:

        @Enough Already – why the need to cringe? he/she is just expressing their opinion.

      • bluhare says:

        whatever, you and I know that there is expressing your opinion and then there’s expressing your opinion. I cringe waiting for some of them too. Lucky you if you don’t.

      • Helen Smith says:

        I only speak for myself.

        No need to explain. It is what it is. You are excited or you aren’t. Kind of like being in love with someone. You are or you aren’t. I’m not.

        While we’re on the subject of royals and feelings, I’m not excited about Kate Middleton either. She isn’t anything as a person and hasn’t done anything as a single woman or a duchess that grabs at my mind or my heart. She just exists.

        I come here because I enjoy the conversation the people who post here. They are insightful and witty.

        One thing I will say about both Kate and Meghan is it seems that you need to have an almost relentless drive to move into Harry and William’s social circles. Then, you need to be the right personality for William and Harry to grab their attention. Then finally, to close the deal you need a real drive, a relentless ambition to marry a royal. To hang on.

        I don’t admire “marrying well” as in marrying up the social ladder enough to have some kind of wish fulfillment fantasy with either Kate or Meghan.

        I also know too much about Harry and William’s personalities to have some kind of wish fulfillment fantasy about marrying either of them. Neither William or Harry seem like mentally healthy whole people with whom I would have a good, productive life.

        I’m glad I am not friends with either Kate or Meghan in real life. I enjoy people who are more laid back. Who let life happen more and see where it takes them. Who are aware of their shortcomings and are working on being better people.

      • Helen Smith says:

        I don’t know why either of you would cringe or be concerned about someone’s opinion of Kate or Meghan. Neither of these women have done anything wonderful for the world. By wonderful I mean something that leaves it a better place in a meaningful way. Their charity work seems pretty minimal and superficial. More like something any upwardly mobile socialite would do to build their resume in the right social circles.

        Time will tell with Meghan if she does more meaningful work on behalf of the world with the platform Harry provides for her if they marry. For now, Meghan hasn’t done very much beyond work her way into the right professional and social circles to meet Harry. Meghan had a series of advantageous romantic relationships with men and professional/ social relationships with socialites to move herself up the ladder without a Carole Middleton there to guide her. Meghan’s charity work is a part of that upward mobility. That maneuvering herself into the right social circles. Time will tell if Meghan’s charity work becomes more.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Whole lot of projection there Helen.

  20. Southern Charm says:

    Harry’s Invictus Games is amazing. Regardless of one’s feelings about “royalty”, what he has done with this is amazing. I hope people will tune in to support the wounded warriors and combat vets who are competing. Good job, Harry and good luck to all the competitors!

  21. Dissa says:

    All well and good … but I’ll bet many of the paralyzed vets would rather see treatments to reverse paralysis.

    Many would probably want to be cured.

  22. NoKiddingCats says:

    I will be beyond thrilled when they finally make it official. Mostly because the endless speculation is tiring, and I’m looking forward to some good Meghan vs Kate gossip!

  23. TheOriginalMia says:

    IG opening ceremony today. Wonder if we’ll get a glimpse of the future Mrs. Harry Wales. I hope so.

  24. weegie warrior says:

    Frankly im hoping if harry is truly happy he will stop his petulant ” i dont want to be royal” narrative and step up and do his duty – with meghan at his side if thats what he wants – to th british people who adore his grandmother, have been let down by william and kate and r expecting somone from th current royal generation to take th reins n move th monarchy forward. What i personally do not wish to see is harry n meghan become another celebrity couple living a ridiculously glamorous lifestyle without making any significant contribution. Remember charles n diana were billed as th fairytale couple and we all know how that worked out. A bit of honesty and commitment would be welcome.

    • PrincessK says:

      @weegie warrior, Harry has never had a “I dont want to be royal” narrative, you obviously take comments as gospel and make no attempt at analysing the truth. Have you never heard of ‘spin’ and ‘twist’?

      • weegie warrior says:

        He said it recently on tv when he was talking about his mother – he has a hard time separating th royal harry from th private harry. What he needs to come to terms with is th fact that his position in life affords him great priviledge but with it comes duty that th british public contribute to.

  25. Adele Dazeem says:

    Gotta say I had no idea Harry (and to a lesser degree, MM) had this many haters. Even if you’re neutral on them, you gotta admit MM will bring the fashion porn that Kate never has brought.

    • whatever says:

      She has a good fashion sense but it all depends how her fashion sense is adapted to suit the royal dress code rules and the British weather. She could look fabulous or she could end up dressing as blandly as Kate. There is a fine line …It could go either way.

      Btw no sighting at IG of MM? …what up with that? I though it was supposed to be their ‘coming out’ appearence?

    • MommyMaura says:

      I’m not a hater, However, I can see why people may dislike Harry and snarkily bring up his past (Just as everyone on this site does. So many people have been cancelled for things in their past)
      What I don’t get is the MM hate. There’s nothing to hate, she literally has done NOTHING. So yeah..that’s odd.
      I can understand someone (Harry) that we have years of knowledge of being disliked by some but is MM is literally brand spanking new.
      I also think it’s a case of hate stans.
      Some commentators are known for hating certain celebs. Kate & Will has them, Beyonce has them..a lot of the controversial celebs have people who come on threads just to critcize, shame, or make everything about that person evil or wrong.
      And vice versa. It’s really odd.

  26. Polly says:

    So, Meghan was at the opening ceremony but not sitting anywhere near Harry. Why?? Surely at this point they need to stop being coy about the relationship.