Harvey Weinstein fell asleep in his ‘sex addiction’ group therapy session

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Harvey Weinstein is being investigated, by my count, by three different police forces. The London police are investigating Weinstein for a series of sexual assaults and rapes after they received multiple tips. Several women have come forward and given statements in London too. The New York Police Department also has an open investigation into Weinstein too, although I wouldn’t put much stock into it because the last time the NYPD put together a solid case for sexual assault against Weinstein, the DA refused to prosecute. As for Weinstein’s hunting ground in LA, well apparently women are coming forward there as well. The LAPD says that they are currently investigating an alleged rape committed by Weinstein in 2013.

A woman filed a police report with LAPD Thursday claiming Harvey Weinstein raped her in 2013, and the Department has launched a criminal investigation. The woman is an Italian model/actress who claims she attended the Italia Film, Fashion and Art Festival in February, 2013. She claims she had met Weinstein before, and in fact she says at the time he asked her up to his room but she declined. On this occasion, she says Weinstein showed up at her hotel lobby at Mr. C Beverly Hills and asked if he could join her in her room. She says she declined, but a short time later Weinstein was at her hotel door.

The woman, who was 34 at the time, tells the L.A. Times Weinstein forced his way into her room, saying, “I’m not going to f*** you. I just want to talk.” She says he repeatedly asked to see her naked, then grabbed her by the hair, yanked her into the bathroom and forcibly raped her. She says she begged him to stop, showing him pictures of her kids. It apparently went on for 45 minutes, and Weinstein allegedly left. She says she was afraid to report him, but told her priest, a friend and a nanny. The LAPD tells TMZ the Department is currently investigating.

[From TMZ]

Jesus Christ. This sounds a lot like what he did to Lysette Anthony – it was like a blitz attack once he invaded her space. But, since TMZ is TMZ and they’re pro-abusive-men, they had to report a second story about this case: apparently, the victim “has the LAPD worried” because she’s giving an interview to a newspaper. How dare she want to tell her story, right? That’s the vibe of the second TMZ article.

As for Weinstein’s current location, he’s still in Arizona, pretending to be in “sex rehab.” Dude, you are not a sex addict. You are a sexual predator. There’s a difference. While I believe every person has the right to privacy, in general and specifically when they are seeking treatment, I couldn’t help but read this Page Six story about how Weinstein is behaving in his “sex therapy” group sessions:

Harvey Weinstein is already being belligerent at sex-addiction rehab — barking into his banned mobile phone and remaining in denial about his alleged sex attacks, insisting each and every one was consensual, Page Six has exclusively learned. The movie mogul, who volunteered to go to rehab after a wave of allegations of sexual harassment and rape against him from women in Hollywood, isn’t exactly in his element in therapy, falling asleep in sessions or talking on his phone, a source tells Page Six. Weinstein was reported to be at an inpatient facility, but our source says he is actually being treated at an intensive outpatient facility, which allows him to spend nights at a hotel. The clinic offers one-on-one counseling, and group therapy sessions among other treatments.

The source told us, “In one group therapy session, Harvey arrived 15 minutes late. Then, when it was his turn to speak, he launched into a speech about how this is all a conspiracy against him.” The source added that as others at the clinic shared their personal stories, “Harvey fell asleep in his chair. He was only woken up by the ringing of his smuggled mobile phone [which is banned at the facility] . . . Harvey jolted awake, jumped up, immediately took the call and then ran out of the room.”

Another source close to Weinstein says he is no longer joining group sessions, “for obvious reasons,” but is undergoing individual treatment, and is accompanied at all times by a therapist.

“He insists he never raped or assaulted anyone, and that all the encounters were consensual. He realizes he has acted like an a - - hole, but he still insists he’s not a rapist. He does have his phone, but when he is in therapy he has to give it to someone else,” the source said, adding, “The characterization of what he said and what happened at the group session isn’t true.”

[From Page Six]

I believe all of this. I believe he doesn’t give a sh-t about therapy, he’s just going through the motions. I believe he sees everything he did as consensual and likely transactional. He doesn’t want to examine why he got off – for decades, because it is his sexual pathology – on humiliating and degrading women, on forcing himself on women and forcing women to do terrible things.

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  1. H says:

    Can this guy die in a fire? No, really. I got no sympathy for a rapist.

  2. Nanny to the Rescue says:

    He’s such a poor victim of evil women and newspapers, isn’t he, effing creep.

    Oh, and Jason Isaacs, when being asked directly whether he knew about Weinstein, said that he’d heard rumours and that this was known in Holywood as “paying the Harvey tax”. So ANYBODY claiming they had no idea is an effing liar. This sh!t was common enough to get a name – let that sink in! (And Isaacs never worked with Weinstein, nor is he a big fish in HW, nor is he connected to any of the women who came forward, so he probably heard everythng third-effing-hand, and still knew this phenomenon has a name.)

    I’m seriously pissed off.

    • AVVSAJNC says:

      They ALL knew. Heck, WE all knew! This happens in every industry in every country. Until men are trained from birth to NOT see women as merely sexual beings then it will continue.

      I join you in your pissed-off-ness. It makes me growl.

  3. SlightlyAnonny says:

    Thank you for calling him a predator. He is not addicted to sex, if anything, he is addicted to power. I know recovery is usually considered a sacred space and nothing is revealed but I hope his fellow classmates spill all.

    • YES! I was going to say this is not sex addiction, this is power addiction coupled with a personality disorder. Rape and sexual abuse… it’s all about power.

      • Stumpcorgi says:

        Thank you for saying that! In college I took a class called “Violence Against Women” and it really changed my life. The idea of rape being about sexiness is so goddamn toxic. No, it’s about power. It’s about satisfying some piece of shit’s desire to feel powerful by violently assaulting and violating someone else. The idea of the perfect victim (a beautiful, young, white virgin) makes me sick. (BTW have you read “Lucky” by Alice Sebold?) The way that rape is portrayed in almost every movie/show is disgusting. Eg, the trope of the fight-to-fuck, as seen in Game of Thrones and sadly my beloved Poldark. Because you know, women who scream “no” and fight their attackers are secretly turned on 🤦🏻‍♀️ End of rant. I just wanted to thank you for your astute comment. I’ve argued this point to so many idiots who don’t get it. Keep up the good fight, sister!
        PS- Another thing that has stuck with me since that class is that we need to stop using the passive voice with rape, ie “s/he was raped.” It takes the rapist out of the equation. No. A PERSON, PROBABLY A MAN, raped her/him.

  4. HK9 says:

    I know these things are supposed to be confidential, so if they’re leaking it, I’m guessing he’s being a huge assh-le and they want everyone to know it. I have no sympathy. While I know he will probably find a way to keep working, he has no remorse and I hope he loses his career.

  5. V4Real says:

    He fell asleep because he is not sorry. He doesn’t feel he belongs there. He is just hopiing to garner a little sympathy by using his power of abuse over women as an addiction, as if it’s a drug he couldn’t help. The only thing he’s sorry about is that he has been exposed. If this had never came out he would still be sexually harassing women today. Business as usual.

    Go fu k yourself Harvey, choke on a thousand razor blades.

  6. Yellowrocket says:

    It seems unfair on genuine people seeking help in group therapy to allow this POS to join them. Especially when He is obviously disinterested and disruptive.

    He is not a sex addict. He is a rapist and a control freak who likes to subject women to sexual assaults to feel powerful.

    The sight of his face makes me feel physically sick now.

    • Nanny to the Rescue says:

      But sex addict sounds much nicer. I mean, most people like sex, so liking sex a bit too much is almost a badge of honor for some people. He will never admit (not even to himself) that that’s not really what his problem is.

    • SlightlyAnonny says:

      So major caveat, my experience with sex addiction comes almost entirely from that horrible Dr. Drew show but with that as my reference (and the movie Shame), it seems like the behavior of sex addicts primarily hurt themselves in the long run which is the exact opposite of what this cretinous bastard was doing.

    • Amy says:

      I think it’s also unfair he gets to keep his phone even though they’re banned and nobody else probably does. He’s still being treated like a big shot to whom the rules don’t apply. That is s huge part of the problem. If this rehab center is treating him as the all powerful Harvey Weinstein who doesn’t have to follow the rules that everyone else does, he will continue to think of himself as someone who can break rules without consequences. His belief that he could do whatever he wanted to whomever he wanted (and the fact that everyone else believed it too) is why his abuse went on for so long. He needs a huge slice of humble pie. He needs to be kicked out of this rehab place for not following their rules and then he needs to be publicly shamed for it.

  7. detritus says:

    The man who abused my friend, the one who is now a doctor, he attended one single session of therapy, and two group sessions. He went until he found out there was no chance she was coming back. He immediately quit all therapy and the abusive mens group he was attending, and started dating a student from the class he taught.

    I don’t think most of these men want to change, they just want to appease the people upset at them. Wankstain’s not doing this to change, he’s doing this to change our opinion of him.

  8. Ally says:

    I’m sorry, what hotel is renting out rooms to him? Hotels are his preferred crime scene. Should their other customers be exposed to riding in elevators in him and being propositioned by him, in addition to the cleaning staff having to go into his room? WTH.

    I stopped watching or reading TMZ when they offered to do Trump’s golden toilet house tour. I recommend it. You’ll feel much cleaner. I know it’s work for the CB pros here, but us commenters can give that misogynistic crapfest a pass.

  9. trollontheloose says:

    I absolutely don’t believe he sees his assaults as “consensual sex”. Consensual sex is “I am all for it. I say Yes”. Taking advantage is not consensual. He feels entitled. He knows, he takes it by force. Predators can’t take a no for answer and just love their power of preying on what they see as a person in a “weak” position. They love the sight of fear (emotion and physical). Once the deed done he probably sees them as rag.

  10. Talie says:

    The problem for him is not sex addiction… He needs intensive psychiatric help or a jail cell.

    • Kit says:

      He needs to be taken off the streets. He is dangerous. People are held in custody for much less but because they pose a risk to society. The sheer volume of complainants and the nature of the complaints, knowing he has boundless resources, that he has made some admissions, that even if you only believed the lesser offences, it is generally accepted that minor sex offences escalate over time to serious violence, and we know this has been happening for three decades….. why is he still on the loose? I get the need to build a case, but he could be charged and held for just one thing, with more charges to follow, couldn’t he? It is all so bizarre.

  11. velourazure says:

    Of course he did.

  12. Sixer says:

    My backside he’s got a sex addiction.

    He doesn’t belong in therapy. He belongs in prison.

    BTW – in a large longitudinal study just done with sex offenders in British prisons, it has been shown that group therapy actually increases, not decreases, recidivism. These arseholes just give each other ideas, that’s all.

    • Nanny to the Rescue says:

      Is that just for sex offenders or is this a problem with other group therapies as well (like alcoholics, gambling addiction, DUI’s (if you even have those)) etc.?

      • Sixer says:

        I don’t know. The basic problem seems to have been that the group setting normalised the aberrant acts in the minds of the perps. They didn’t disgust one another – if anything, they encouraged one another.

    • frisbee says:

      Exactly the same thing happens with paedophiles, they reinforce each other’s beliefs and that serves to normalise thier behaviour among themselves. This is the same and ITA he’s addicted to power, sex has nothing to do with it. Until we start calling them power crimes or abuse of power crimes arsewipes like this will continue to muddy the waters of where the real issue lies.

    • bluhare says:

      That is interesting that therapy is just jollies for these people. Yuck.

      That being said, I don’t think whoever leaked this is in the right either.

      • frisbee says:

        Tbh neither do I, don’t care what happens to him but leaks could reflect badly on the therapists/unit who are probably just doing thier best to assist in any way they can, and that’s uncalled for.

      • Crystal says:

        To be fair, the leaker was likely a fellow group member. My experience with groups is while privacy is expected, you are not legally bound by that.

        Also, he should not have been in a group setting. Group therapy is generally intended for individuals who already are successful in private therapy. And as noted above, there is no determined benefit to predators doing therapy together. It is an environment where they become better predators and learn new skills. No one needs him getting better at this.

      • bluhare says:

        The leaker almost certainly was a fellow group member who told someone else. However, I don’t think that makes it right either. If you’re getting treatment would you want your fellow session participants ratting you out to the media? Whether he should be in group therapy isn’t the issue. It’s someone leaking private information about his treatment. And I think I said I thought that people learning how to be better pedophiles or predators in these things is disgusting.

        And thanks, frisbee, I totally agree with that. I would think that leaking things that happen in treatment wouldn’t reflect well on the facility.

  13. Skylark says:

    *snorts* As if anyone believed this sick POS was interested in let alone actively engaged in treatment. The only ‘steps’ he’s interested in are those that will get him out of that hotel and back to his old life.

  14. CalliD says:

    Could it be that he’s that delusional that he genuinely believes it is consensual?! He clearly thinks he’s gods gift to woman so why wouldn’t they want to sleep with him (massive eye roll)

    • Ksenia says:

      I don’t think he *does* think he’s “God’s gift to women”, though. I think he’s well aware that he is physically unattractive to women and that only fuels his rage at them and his bitter, pathological misogyny even more. Until he had money and power, I suspect most women who he found desirable would have wanted absolutely nothing to do w him. (If he were kind, and funny, gentle and courteous—IF he had an actual *soul*—far more women would have been drawn to him, but his outside exactly matches his inside, so that he is outright repulsive to all.) Now that he is in a position of power over multiple beautiful women, it’s almost like he “avenges” himself on every one of them, w both the ability and the desire to shatter and even destroy the lives of those who reject him. His hatred for women is so raw and so strong that I don’t even see it as deeply sexual; it really is about punishing/shaming/deeply harming the “prey” he so luridly and transparently resents and fears. He is dangerously enraged and deranged, and he can never stop his compulsion to destroy those who he knows he can never actually have. He should absolutely be behind bars for what’s left of his life; it is a travesty if he serves little or no time whatsoever. But then, our courts have always favored wealthy white men; the odds are appallingly stacked against people of color, the poor, and women from the start. Outside of his own cyclical, seething, bleak brain, I doubt he’ll be seeing the stark, grim, windowless inside of a cell any time soon.

      • jwoolman says:

        His outer appearance isn’t the problem. Plenty of men with looks similar to his are nice people and quite attractive because of that. Just look around, you see plenty such men happily married and with children.

  15. AmyB says:

    I feel sorry for people with a genuine sex addiction, that this POS Harvey Weinstein is claiming he has a “sex addiction”……you cannot lump HW’s actions under the umbrella of sex addiction, sorry!! He is a rapist and sexual predator. Furthermore, addicts are normally very self-destructive; this is hardly the case with HW. He abused dozens and dozens of women over the years by assaulting/raping them. Big difference.

    He belongs in jail. Period.

  16. Helen Smith says:

    Poor people go to jail rich people go to therapy. 🤢

  17. Nan says:

    Harvey “Unless She Screams Loudly, It’s Consensual” Weinstein – missing the whole point that he was preying on people looking for jobs, trying to build their careers.

  18. Anare says:

    I don’t know where you folks are getting your info about group therapy reinforcing sex offender’s deviant arousals but from my vantage point it is quite the opposite. I have spent 20+ years in a job where all day long, I review treatment records from various sex offender treatment programs. The largest of the programs I review is one that is well regarded nationally. For my job, I routinely read years worth of daily group therapy treatment progress notes. These programs have power rapists, pedophiles, intra-familial sexual abusers, you name it. If anyone in the group starts reinforcing another client’s deviancy, denial, projecting blame, victim-stancing or any other such behavior, other group members will call them on their BS right now. And if the group fails to see or acknowledge that is happening, the group facilitator will stop them to discuss it. Often that will lead to homework assignments to write about pro social problem solving or other appropriate topics. The group might spend a couple weeks delving into that thinking error. If need be, the facilitator might suggest moving a person to another group or bringing in a visiting facilitator who can offer fresh eyes on the group dynamic. The vast amount of research on sexual offending recidivism rates show a clear, measurable decrease in reoffending for those who successfully complete treatment programming. I’ll get off my soapbox now.

    P.S. Harvey Weinstein needs inpatient long-term sex offender treatment programming. As others have pointed out, what Weinstein has is not sexual addiction, it is sexual psychopathy. Someone in California should petition him for civil commitment as a sexually dangerous person. He needs help and the public needs to be kept safe from him.

  19. serena says:

    What a horrible monster he is.