Dustin Hoffman is also a flaming bag of garbage too, which we already knew

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Dustin Hoffman used to have a terrible reputation in Hollywood. Every film production was especially fraught, every interview a battle, every story about him was a denouncement. That was mostly in the 1970s and 1980s – by the ‘90s, Hoffman did enough to show that he had “softened” I guess, and he was brought back into the Hollywood fold completely. That being said, it should not be underestimated that Hoffman was a complete bastard and a complete pig back in those days. Remember this story about how Hoffman treated Meryl Streep on Kramer v. Kramer? He physically assaulted her and taunted her verbally about the recent death of her great love, John Cazale. So, yeah, Hoffman was a douchebag. Perhaps he still is. Now the Hollywood Reporter has a detailed story on how, in 1985, Hoffman sexually harassed and groped Anna Graham Hunter, a young woman who was only 17 years old. You can read the entire piece here. Here’s the intro:

This is a story I’ve told so often I’m sometimes surprised when someone I know hasn’t heard it. It begins, “Dustin Hoffman sexually harassed me when I was 17.” Then I give the details: When I was a senior in high school in New York City, interning as a production assistant on the set of the Death of a Salesman TV film, he asked me to give him a foot massage my first day on set; I did. He was openly flirtatious, he grabbed my ass, he talked about sex to me and in front of me. One morning I went to his dressing room to take his breakfast order; he looked at me and grinned, taking his time. Then he said, “I’ll have a hard-boiled egg … and a soft-boiled cl—s.” His entourage burst out laughing. I left, speechless. Then I went to the bathroom and cried.

The first several times I told this story, I left out the soft-boiled cl—is. When I finally started including it, my voice sometimes broke. But it got easier. When I spoke to a reporter recently and she told me she would have to track down people from the set to verify my account, I felt queasy. What would they say? I could only imagine them shaking their heads: “She didn’t seem too bothered by it then. She sure laughed a lot.”

There was so much I loved about being on set — taking John Malkovich’s lunch orders and falling more deeply in love every time he spoke to me or said my name; bonding with the crew as we worked 16-hour days; hearing Arthur Miller say my first two names because they sounded like a word game, and that amused him; dancing the polka with Charles Durning, who made every room he entered a happier place. And yes, I loved the attention from Dustin Hoffman. Until I didn’t. During my five weeks on set, I detailed my days and mailed dispatches to my sister in London after making copies for myself. Recently, I reread them for the first time in several years.

[From THR]

The rest of the article consists of Anna Graham Hunter’s “dispatches” to her sister and you can clearly see the shift between the first days when she’s happy with the attention she’s getting from Hoffman and then it quickly turns very gross as he gropes her regularly, constantly talks about sex, asks her questions about her sex life (SHE IS 17!) and humiliates her and embarasses her repeatedly. When she went to a supervisor to complain, Hoffman was told about it and he harassed her even more.

Hoffman issued an apology about this too, saying: “I have the utmost respect for women and feel terrible that anything I might have done could have put her in an uncomfortable situation. I am sorry. It is not reflective of who I am.” I love how all of these serial sexual assailants and serial harassers want you to know upfront that they totally love women and have respect for women. If you really loved and respected women, wouldn’t you have shown that throughout your life?


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  1. Grant says:

    Yet another pig to cancel and add to the pile…

    • Natalia says:

      Always liked Dustin Hoffman until he started doing those stupid movies with Barbra Streisand for the $$. This one is difficult for me, because I was a fan. It’s hard to watch a movie knowing what a douche someone was and is. Of course he’s still a douche. A rich, entitled, abusive douche. Like all the rest of them.

      • holly hobby says:

        Yep another one I have to cancel. Stop Hollywood men! If I keep canceling everyone I would have no one to watch.

      • Boston Green Eyes says:

        @holly hobby: I only watch documentaries. You should try it.

    • courtney says:

      another PIG indeed. reading what the girl had to deal with is nauseating. what a piece of human garbage. she was 17!!! these men are trying to justify their behavior and minimize it. you sexually harassed A CHILD. there is nothing normal or acceptable about that. you are a predator, a creep, a criminal. no getting around that. those are FACTS. ready to watch all these pigs burn.

    • Maren says:

      I never knew this. I never heard this. As I think about all of the sexist things my principal has said to me and others over the years, I am wishing I wrote them all down. Cause it seems as though so few men can not act like predators. It really is sickening. My Asst Principal is a great guy, a sweetie, he is not sexist, he is enlightened, but his boss and my boss the Principal – what a jerk.

    • Lahdidahbaby says:

      Yep. And it doesn’t surprise me, based on things I heard back then. His ego is huge, and his self-regard owns him.

    • Lahdidahbaby says:

      Weird things happening tonight when I try to post. This post (above) was cut off, so I’ll try again:

      It doesn’t surprise me, based on things I heard back then — that his ego is huge, and his self-regard owns him. Ever since I became aware of his arrogance and high-handedness, and the stories about his disrespect of women who worked with him, I’ve pretty much despised him.

      And yet I’ve got a male friend who took a tumble off his bike beside a California highway some years back and it knocked him out cold. When he came to, he says, “I saw Dustin Hoffman there leaning over me, asking, ‘Hey, buddy, are you okay?’ and I thought I was hallucinating.” Hoffman rescued him, got him the help he needed.

      I don’t tell that story to defend Hoffman — as I said, I despise him — but only to say that these daily outings of the monsters who have been our movie icons is so sad and confusing, and as the revelations multiply, it becomes very hard to trust almost any man. And I have to wonder what Hoffman might have done if it had been a woman lying there passed out beside the road?

      That’s the thing: these guys are great friends…to other MEN. We women are not people to them. Other men see them as Great Guys — we see them as the predators they are with us when no one is looking.

      Men have done these things to women for all of my remembered life, and NOTHING has happened to them as a result, none of them were ever punished or ever lost their jobs because of it. WE were the ones who feared losing OUR jobs if we said anything!

      In my first real job at age 17 at a San Diego finance company, my boss came up behind me one day my first week there as I was filing in the bottom drawer of a wall of filing cabinets, and he ran his hand all the way up between my legs — ALL the way. I was so scared and shocked because NO one had ever touched me there before, but I knew he was my boss and I was terrified of him, so I moved away quickly and said nothing.

      Things continued in that vein until I knew it would never stop, and on the day I decided I had to leave, I went into his office and asked for a couple of hours off so I could look for another job. I’ll never forget what he said to me: “It’s not easy to find a job, [Lahdidah]. You’re a nice girl, but there’s not much of a market for nice girls.”

      (I got TWO job offers that day, btw, and left the finance company to work at an airline, and then enrolled in college.) But I’m ashamed that I never said a word to anyone about why I was leaving, and never told anyone, not even my mother, what my boss had done to me that day by the filing cabinets, and in the weeks that had followed.

      And here’s the thing: we now actually, unbelievably, have a U.S. PRESIDENT who grabs women’s genitals and brags about it! (“I can do whatever I want because I’m a STAR!”)

      NO, asshole, they let you get away with it because you’re powerful and they’re scared of you, afraid of how you could ruin them professionally if they stand up to you! Afraid they won’t be able to make a living!

      The confluence of these two stories – the outing of famous and revered men as sexual predators after decades of it being hushed up, and the fact that the U.S. President is by his own word proudly one of them — is this a coincidence? Or is it a foretelling of his downfall as well?

      I can only hope so.

  2. Mara says:

    The only thing I ever knew of Hoffman was his chat show interviews so I naievly assumed he was one of the good ones. This is horrible.

    • ArchieGoodwin says:

      Me too 🙁

      I had no idea about his reputation. Tootsie was one of my forever movies.

    • India Rose says:

      Oh, how I wish this story had taken place before Tootsie. The interview he gave to the AMC Top 100 films, where he got choked up about how much he learned from that role about what women experience every day, had me weeping with him.

      He’s so funny in the behind-the-scenes blooper reels from Meet the Fockers. He’s so easily moved to tears talking about Robin Williams or Christopher Reeves. He and his wife seem deeply in love.

      But now et tu, Dustin?

      I hate this.

      I’m so grateful to everyone who is brave enough to speak out and I’m so sorry to everyone who, like me, is mostly battling with their sexual harrassment & assault experiences privately.

      But damn it, it’s hard to hear about one of the guys you thought was good at heart. Maybe he did get better. Maybe he is ultimately good at heart. But it doesn’t excuse this story. Nothing does. Damn it, Damn it, Damn it.

  3. Whoopsy Daisy says:

    Ah man, I didnt know any o this. After his Tootsie speech I always thought he was a good guy.

    Is John Malkovich a decent guy? Or is she sayi he was a creep too?

    • Peaches says:

      She said: “There was so much I loved about being on set — taking John Malkovich’s lunch orders and falling more deeply in love every time he spoke to me or said my name.”

    • delphi says:

      I have positive testimony! I interned at Steppenwolf Theatre in Chicago while Malkovich was working with some of the sound and set designers on the early days of pre-production on the movie “The Dancer Upstairs” (he’s been involved with the company since the mid-70s and is a major patron), and he was as lovely as you would imagine. He’d bring us costumers coffees late at night when we were working furiously, and while he’s eccentric as all get out, he’s a lovely soul. He was really, REALLY funny. We might not share political views on a lot of things, but deep down he’s a really nice guy.

      • holly hobby says:

        That is good to know! I know he usually play creepy roles in film (I guess he never did a comedy?) but it’s good he’s a nice guy. I need to have someone to watch. I’m running out of Hollywood stars at this rate.

      • Dutch says:

        He’s done several comedies. “Being John Malkovich” was considered a comedy. He was a major player in both “RED” movies (action comedy). Bit roles in Zoolander 2 and Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.

      • Polka Dot says:

        Glad to hear that! I have had a bit of a crush for him since I saw Dangerous Liaisons, and in spite of his convincing creepy performances, I never got sleazy or douchey vibes from him. He seems, indeed, to be a thoughtful guy, in a unconventional way 🙂

      • magnoliarose says:

        I always think it is interesting his grandparents were Croation. I always thought the last name was Russian. He seems shy unassuming.

        That is a misleading statement. He had a beef with that writer not about free speech as a concept. I would need further proof because that is a serious charge to make.

      • Kata says:

        Malkovich (Malković) is as Croatian as a last name gets, actually. If it ends with ić there’s a pretty good chance it’s from that part of Europe.

      • J.Mo says:

        Thank you, Delphi. I love credit where it’s due.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Thanks. I learned something new. Sorry about my iPad typo. It looked funny but I sent it anyway. Croatian. Got it.

  4. Mazzie says:

    Why is it that all method actors end up being douchebags?

    • detritus says:

      because it takes a real douchebag to push your artistic process on others, and most method actors use it as an excuse to indulge their worst behaviours in an artistically sanctioned way.

    • magnoliarose says:

      Because they think it makes them sound brilliant and dedicated and brimming with talent. I think most very talented actors can’t describe their process entirely because it isn’t a theory or style. It was trendy in the 70s, but nowadays it is pure douchey ego driven nonsense.

  5. Reindeer says:

    I didn’t know about this. Being an 80’s baby, this all happened before my time.

    Very, very disappointed to read this. 🙁

  6. Bijou says:

    I never liked Dustin. He’s incredibly annoying, overrated actor. And another with a bullshit statement.

    • Alix says:

      “not reflective of who I am”? Pray tell us, then, what IS it reflective of? Show yourself out, asswipe.

      • Who ARE These People? says:

        This is like when racism and cruelty break out in the USA and someone says, “This is not who we are.” Well, then, who is it? SOMEBODY did it.

      • Esmom says:

        Exactly. It’s denial because it IS reflective of who he is, as much as he may insist otherwise. Like others have commented, I had no idea. Disgusting.

  7. littlemissnaughty says:

    These statements are bullsh*t. So much bullsh*t, I’m choking on it. You can’t SAY you respect women, you just do it. I have a friend who’s been trying to convince me that this guy friend of hers – who I’ve also known a long time and avoid like the plague – is really a nice guy. Inside. “He can be so sweet! He has a completely different side.” Really? Being able to be nice or sweet does not make you a nice person. You behave like a nice person, you show it, you ARE a nice person. Most of the time. The ability alone means nothing.

    Show it or go away. Swine.

    • Feels so bad that ‘anything I might have done ‘…These guys are full of it and I love their careful wording that really means I’m not taking real responsibility for this -Wasn’t Kevin Spacey ‘s comment somehow worded he’s so sorry for what he might have done in his drunken state.People who harass children is who Hoffman,Spacey,are.

  8. detritus says:

    I read something recently, it stated

    notice how none of these men say – I would never touch a woman without her consent. That gives them no wiggle room, that clearly states how they operate.

    No, most of these men say – I never did that one time, that one time, but if I did it was not in the way you said i did.

    • Tassie says:

      I’ve never forgotten the story he told on the Tonight Show about losing his virginity-He was sent into a darkened room were the girl was waiting. She was expecting it to be someone else. Yes, it was told for a laugh.
      (I saw this when it aired, and it’s been awhile. Don’t know if a clip exists.)

      • HedWig says:

        I remember that, too! Wasn´t it his brothers girlfriend who was expecting his brother? Very very creepy. I think he even laughed saying how puzzled this poor woman was when she found out it was not his brother. Please someone find a clip of it as a proof!

    • Renee2 says:

      EXACTLY. I’ve noticed this too, with the exception of that Bright Eyes guy who was accused of rape, I have not read or heard of any other account where an accused man has said, I am horrified by rape and sexual, harassment and assault and would never engage in it. To me, their words are an admission of guilt if you parse them. I didn’t want to draw attention to it though, because I don’t want them to be able to start doing this as a strategy of deflection.

      • ichsi says:

        And in Connor Oberst’s case the woman actually was lying about the assault and apologised later on.
        Hoffman is one of my favourite actors and I do think that he realised through time how gross he was being, but he still doesn’t Get It get it and it doesn’t magically undo everything he did in the past.

  9. mia girl says:

    Ugh, I mean I’m not a big fan of his, but in the end, will there be no one left who isn’t gross? Please I need faith that there are still good guys.

    I could start a running list of men I really hope and pray are not sh*ts, but at the top…all I ask is that there not be any of this type of stuff on Hugh Jackman.

    • trollontheloose says:

      Might as well play Bingo but instead of numbers we have name; “well X did this “.. “I got him too! ” minus the excitement and reward factor.

    • Alix says:

      There’s a thread on Pajiba discussing just such a list. In the end, there will be only Tim Gunn left standing, I’m afraid.

    • Kitten says:

      LOVE Hugh. Mark Ruffalo? Please Mark PLEASE never let me down!

    • Common sense says:

      I feel the same way, I am disappointed in men, in society, on a daily basis now. For me Wentworth miller is the name I don’t want to see associated with this great tragedy, that would just break my heart.

      • Alix says:

        Hugh Laurie for me. I’d be crushed.

      • Lensblury says:

        For me it would be John Malkovich. And maybe Seth Rogen.

      • J.Mo says:

        Common sense, Wentworth is mine too. Reminded of him because of his mention of Malkovitch in interviews and the fact that Brett Ratner produced Prison Break. I believe in his decency though.

    • mia girl says:

      YES, ITA to all comments and suggestions to add to the bingo card that @trollontheloose suggested we try.

      Names I would definitely include in my list (randomly popping into my head) Stephen Colbert, Neil Patrick Harris, James McAvoy, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Jack Tapper, Patrick Stewart, Seth Myers, the guys from Pod Saves America, Riz Ahmed

      @Alix – thanks for the tip on the Pajiba post. Agree with most on the list as you can see.

      • Esmom says:

        Good list, mia girl, I concur with these guys. I’d add Anderson Cooper and Ronan Farrow. And we cannot forget Barack Obama.

      • third ginger says:

        I will add Mark Harris, one of my favorite writers, and his husband Tony Kushner, author of ANGELS IN AMERICA.

      • Kitten says:

        OMG the guys from Pod Save. I think I’d cry if they ever did something bad. Plus I really don’t want to have to burn my Friend of the Pod and Repeal and Go F*ck Yourself t-shirts…

        BTW, Crooked Conversations is out now! Three eps available for downloading I believe.

      • mia girl says:

        @Esmom- OMG I would completely shut down and give up on life if anything was revealed about Barack Obama. That would just be a dagger to the heart. I would never recover.

        @Queenb – I don’t fault you, but I effin knew as I wrote names that someone would bring some receipts. Ugh. I couldn’t even read the whole thing. 😭

        @Kitten – so much love for Crooked Conversations

        @ThirdGinger – great additions to our bingo cards

      • AnneC says:

        I have tickets to see the pod save America guys on their tour. Can’t wait.

    • Va Va Kaboom says:

      If something ever comes out about Tom Hanks I’ll…. honestly I can’t even finish the thought.

  10. Amy says:

    Not the worst part of this story, I know, but why did THR blank out “clitoris”? It’s a part of the human body, last time I checked…ooh, look, I have two a-ms and two le-s!

    • Kloops says:

      Seriously. I was wracking my br*^n trying to think of a dirty word created from cl_s. Couldn’t do it.

    • Kitten says:

      Yeah I struggled with that at first too lol. It’s not a dirty word, people.

    • Turtle says:

      Oh, man, The Hollywood Reporter has epic typos and grammatical errors. They’re supposed to be a trade paper. I don’t think they have any copy editors.

      • holly hobby says:

        Sadly all major newspapers contain typos. I think they fired the competent editors during budget cuts! Clitoris is not a bad word! I couldn’t figure out what that word was and it was driving me crazy! Thanks Celebitches who are more savvy with crossword puzzles!

    • Kaiser says:

      I did that, not THR. I was wary because of the word because of our CB ads!

    • Vovicia says:

      Thank you! I was trying hard to figure out what that word was supposed to be.

  11. Tess says:

    Oh my gosh I knew nothing of his earlier reputation, I only know his as the “cuddly grandpa” persona he cultivated from like Meet the Fockers.

  12. Serene Wolf says:

    I never liked the smug pig. This doesn’t surprise me.

  13. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    Yeah, in 20 years I won’t be able to say I’ve always been a dedicated health enthusiast and a slave to eating well and exercising.

  14. Bridget says:

    Supposedly, Dustin is one of those people who has indeed shaped up. However, that’s a b s apology. None of that stuff he said was even questionably bad – it was BAD. He behaved horribly for a couple of decades and had it protected under the umbrella of being an artiste. It’s time to pay the piper.

    • Josie says:

      I’m wondering the reason he didn’t make films for years was due to his reputation as being difficult to work with or this? Unfortunately it’s probably the former.

    • Kitten says:

      Remember this? http://www.upworthy.com/dustin-hoffman-breaks-down-crying-explaining-something-that-every-woman-sadly-already-experienced-3

      Maybe he was just acting?

      Man it’s just one disappointment after another. Sigh.

      • kibbles says:

        I’m hoping that Tootsie opened his eyes to what it is like to be a woman and that the role did change him for the better later in life when he became more mature. Perhaps it is a reason why he “softened” later in his career. Or maybe he was just acting and putting on a show as he is so good at doing.

        If he has reformed, he should just admit to being a jerk in his youth, that he realizes now that a lot of the things he did back then were inexcusable, and that those actions are no longer a reflection of who he is in 2017. I’d respect some of these men a lot more if they owned up to their behavior and expressed shame for the way they acted. However, I realize that they are probably being advised by their lawyers and PR firm not to admit to any wrongdoing.

      • Kitten says:

        ITA completely. Great if he’s changed but the least he should do is cop to his mistakes.

  15. Elle says:

    The biggest fish are still out there, I’m sure. Can we cancel Michael Bay and Alejandro Inarritu yet? Their behavior is disgusting and well known.

  16. LAK says:

    Hoffman has always had a difficult reputation. Mostly attributed to his method acting which made him a pain to be around because he always took it too far as he did with Meryl because they were playing warring, divorcing couple.

    Most people quote that famous line by Olivier,’ why don’t you just try acting’ as an amusing anecdote rather than the exasperated frustration of having to work with him. Adding sexual innuendo to his difficult reputation is almost anti-climatic, pun unintended, because of course.

  17. trollontheloose says:

    2016 started with the day of David Bowie followed by many other then 45 got elected as the most powerful man in the world despite his hate speech his bigotry sexist comments and such. Then women had to march to keep what the Suffragettes and Co had to fight for and we have a tiny glimpse of what some hope in these days of reckoning. Women bottle up so much and now they gathered their strength and add their drop to this ocean of sexism macho assault/rape culture. None of these actors/directors have the balls to come out and say “Yes she was my victim”. No they go with the now infamous line of “I am so not this person. I respect them. i love them..blehhhhh”. I suspect that many will just take their tie to find courage to speak out. Because I do think though they out one man many actresses/women had to face other abuses by different men. They have/had to fight off men left and right. And I feel for the ones that have branded difficult to work with after being sexually abused and to prevent them to speak up Weinstein and Co might have torpedoed their career by calling other directors and feeding gossips website just like 45 did and maybe still does to discredit anyone that didn’t abide to their will.

  18. Mia4s says:

    So with this can we stop asking “Ugh, why would anyone work with Woody Allen?”.

    Do you get it now?

    Oh gee, they could have done a movie produced by Oscar winner Harvey Weinstein instead! Or James Toback instead! Or Oliver Stone! Or Bryan Singer! Or co-starred with multiple Oscar Winners Kevin Spacey and Dustin Hoffman! Or. Or. Or. Or starred in a movie co-funded by Brett Ratner’s very successful Ratpac company (which basically every actor you can name has).

    People focused on Allen because that was a the one accusation they knew about. But we were sooooo naive. That’s how bad things are in Hollywood, Allen was not the worst option. Not by a long shot. How chilling is that?

    Of course I stand to be corrected if more stories emerge, but I doubt it. This entire thing is just mind blowing.

    • KLO says:

      Speaking of Allen, were there any accusations of him harrassing his coworkers on set? ( I have heard about his abuse of family members, dont remind me of those please)

      • Mia4s says:

        @KLO that’s exactly the thing. Other than the one accusation about his daughter (I get that the Soon-Yin thing is mega creepy but I consider that separate. She wasn’t his daughter and if we are going to talk about them we also really need to talk about Celine Dion and her husband. Anyway…) his sets and workplace have never been an issue from anything I’ve ever heard as far as harassment or abuse. That’s how f**cked up this is! Actresses and maybe some actors would have felt safer on a Woody Allen set! I mean…WTF.

    • DiligentDiva says:

      It’s obvious, either these people know and are friends with sexual abusers, or they are sexual abusers themselves. Hollywoods disgusting right now.

    • AngieB says:

      Agree. To work in Hollywood seems to mean more often than not accepting that the people in power will take advantage of those less powerful because they can with little to no consequence.

    • littlemissnaughty says:

      I just don’t understand why anyone would stay in this industry. Honestly. I couldn’t work in my profession for a variety of reasons and that hurt. I have a goddamn masters degree and I’m good. But I didn’t have the connections and I wasn’t willing to work for ridiculous salaries or move back with my parents. So I reluctantly decided to find a job elsewhere.

      I was once told by an actress that I couldn’t possibly understand the artistic drive, the sheer need to perform. … Right. Maybe I’m a philistine who will never understand what artists go through but who the hell is willing to pay that price? And is Hollywood really the only place to act? I just can’t imagine making these sacrifices for a career. I understand that as a young actor/actress or crew member or writer etc. you don’t grasp the scope of it until you do. I hope there were many who just ran and found fulfillment elsewhere.

      • Jayna says:

        Because i think the harassment isn’t across the board or is in the actresses’ younger years, and they become stronger and don’t put up with it. Most successful actresses who are really talented could no sooner give up acting than breathing and get great satisfaction out of it and do have amazing experiences with other directors and actors.

        Most of these stories seem to be when the actress is starting out and are intimidated and or preyed upon.

    • xo says:

      good point.

    • Kitten says:

      EXACTLY. Also, this is why the whole boycotting movies/television that features one of these predatory dudes is pointless. You might as well just stop watching movies/TV altogether. Oh and don’t forget the Broadway plays.

  19. boredblond says:

    I found the ‘entourage laughing’ part so telling..no hiding pig behavior, in fact it’s like a sport that bonds them..

    • PunkyMomma says:

      Yes! Does anyone remember the scene from Carrie Fisher’s Postcards From the Edge, where she’s working on a movie and the producers cram into her dressing room (which is virtually a closet), and the director says, “If we were any closer, we’d need some lube.” All the male characters laugh and snort. It was very telling, as was the book it had been adapted from.

      I’m sorry Carrie isn’t here — she’d be running these men through wood chippers.

  20. capepopsie says:

    Well, if you have to go out publically and tell people how much you respect women, something is very wrong!

  21. DiligentDiva says:

    Never read anything about him….. I just am so disappointed in men. They are all so toxic. All of them seem to want underage girls. It’s disgusting.

  22. greenmonster says:

    Once again with the statement… anything he MIGHT have done put her in an uncomfortable situation? This is another predator who won’t own up to what he did and who he is. This behavior reflects very well on who he is – priviledged white male who got away with it for the longest time. As a man in his 40s he didn’t see a problem in “flirting” with a 17 year old. He didn’t see a problem in harassing and embarrassing her in front of other people. What a POS!

    • Spring says:

      Yet another sorry/not sorry, non-apology apology from a self-entitled power abuser, similar to the putrid “IF I offended anyone” clause.

      Not only do I despise the conditionality & refusal to take real responsibility from word choices like “might” & “if,” I also loathe these perps conflating & misstating their abuse, harassment & bullying as “offending” someone or making someone “uncomfortable.” I’m uncomfortable when someone accidentally runs into me & offended when someone’s rude or thoughtless. There’s absolutely no comparison between those and these men’s abuse of power, including the sexual harassment of a minor that’s even more disgusting.

      Much respect to everyone coming forward with their stories and speaking truth to power.

  23. stinky says:

    They don’t think they ARE harassing – that’s the whole thing.
    They think they’re flirting, or aggressively flirting, but they seriously don’t get that its unwanted and terrorizing…
    Power imbalance – check – Predictably hitting on the youngins & interns – check – Claiming their prey publicly so others know to back off – check …
    As a late boomer and child of the 70s im just gonna say this is how it WAS, y’all.
    I’m not down with this after-the-fact witchhunt & nit-pickery.
    He certainly did sexually harass her and im glad shes saying it out loud… but the word ‘sexual assault’ is getting thrown around WAY too loosely for me these days.

  24. Mina says:

    How disappointing. I think Dustin Hoffman is part of a generation of actors who went and acted very much like rock stars did, sexual harassment included, it was all part of the appeal of being Hollywood stars to be able to have disgusting behavior and get away with it. I hope with age, maturity and introspection he left this type of person he was behind in the 80s, which obviously doesn’t mean he gets a pass now, but some douchebags do redeem themselves.

    • Jayna says:

      But he was 48 years old when this happened and she was 17. i guess it took many more years for him to mature. No, he never tried to sleep with her nor it sounds like the other women on set, but it was sexual harassment of a young naive girl. It’s just gross. In his misogynistic mind back then, it was all jokes to him. Lighten up, girls. Right. Ugh.

      I find this disappointing, because i remember reading how Dustin’s second wife and children always came on location with him, went to schools locally where they were, and even his two children from his previous marriage came with them often on location. It was always about keeping the family together if he was filming, traveling the world together. And he married her years before this TV movie adaptation of the play, which was probably shot where he lived. And by all accounts they do have a happy marriage.

      Even in the ’80s, how could a grown man think it was okay to treat this 17-year-old in this manner? Talk about Hollyweird living in a bubble while on set.

  25. noway says:

    I heard Hoffman was a d(*)( and verbally abusive to a lot of people during the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s, both men and women, but I didn’t think there was a sexual harassment or assault component to it. Supposedly he was just a very intense actor doing things for the art. This part is news to me. I guess though if you are that way about things it’s not really a big surprise either.

    • courtney says:

      he also slapped meryll streep very hard (not in script, not discussed) just to get a “better reaction” out of her during Kramer vs Kramer filming. I’m not a meryll fan (shes a major polanski support aka a total hypocrite who supports that child rapist) but you dont get to slap someone just for “art” that is the biggest pile of BS. no amount of “for the art” argument allows you to hit/hurt anyone. its not that important. my god, the arrogance these scumbags have is insane

      • Alix says:

        Presumably the movie already HAD a director, yes? Imagine the cojones it takes to do that to a fellow actor under the guise of trying to improve their performance. What utter nerve.

  26. What's Inside says:

    Hollywood has been a maze of traps and soul killing for decades. As has Washington, D.C.

  27. Chef Grace says:

    Abusers and sexual predators are so clever at manipulation and gas lighting. At the end of their explanation of their actions, they have you feeling bad for them. This crapfest has got to stop. No passes for these pervs. Man up buttercups. Own your deplorable actions. Same goes for the ones who work with them. Step up for the victims.

  28. Penelope says:

    Isn’t his current wife someone he knew when she was a child? IIRC, she’s the daughter of a family friend or neighbor. Not illegal or super creepy by any means but I always found it a bit odd.

    • Jayna says:

      His mother was good friends with her grandmother. He saw her a little over the years when she was young as far as at family get-togethers, i guess. He hadn’t seen her in years, but when she was 22 at one of their relative’s funeral he was there also, and they fell in love and started dating. She was in law school. She did finish and get her law degree before they married.

  29. Lori says:

    Nooo! I loved Dustin! *SIGH*

    Now Im really beginning to doubt all men, period.

  30. Barrett says:

    I wonder if some of these guys are pigs when the are younger and they calm down w healthy relationships, maturity, lower testosterone, children, changing social acceptance, kicking addiction. Though some likeWeinstein remain deeply sick

    This is not an excuse. Just running through my mind. I know guys who were hell on wheels in high school or college and as they age the calm down.

    • Kitten says:

      Possibly…but sometimes I think they just get better at hiding it. Like as they mature they realize they can’t “get away with” the things they got away with when they were younger. So they become more socially-aware but no less pervy.

      • Curiosity says:

        @ Kitten

        I think your version is most accurate.
        If you look at stag magazines like Penthouse or Playboy then one must realize that they offer women and their sexuality to men for the male’s pleasure only. And that attitude permeats our society still. Men become hypocrites: they pretend to regard women as equals but then they don’t especially when they think they can get away with it.

  31. Jeanette says:

    Anyone else just waiting on the Travolta stories to start coming forth?

    • noway says:

      Maybe, but I never though Travolta was abusive either. Just a very closeted homosexual manipulated by scientology. Funny we don’t have the scientologist on here either. Plus a few of his stories have come out.

      • BJ says:

        Travolta has being accused of groping several men.Groping people is abuse

      • Jeanette says:

        I remember reading something once upon a time about him being kicked out of a few health clubs because of groping and there was a massage therapist that came out and said he groped him. Then he got really innapropriate with Scarlett Johanson once maybe?

      • Rose says:

        Multiple men came out and said Travolta sexually assaulted them and lawsuits were filed. They were all paid off so that the cases wouldn’t go to trial.

      • J.Mo says:

        Jeanette, there was a video clip of Travolta touching Scarlett Johansen (sp sorry) around the waiste from behind that people found creepy. She said she didn’t take it that way and wasn’t uncomfortable.

  32. Samantha says:

    Maybe I’m being negative, but I feel like the back to back revelations may not have the desired effect. I think a portion of the public that doesn’t read the details on these just calls them “bandwagoning”. Older accusations that are being brought up are mistaken for new ones, and again brushed off by some. Maybe I’m seeing it from the wrong angle and it’s actually a positive change, but I’m worried that all this get summarized into “a whole bunch of he siad, she said, everyone has them!”

  33. Lilly says:

    What is this? Old man excuse, to add to I’m gay excuse. Still doesn’t cut it. Just like I cheer when old Nazis are caught, I don’t care if you’re elderly, you still did the crime.

  34. Nikki says:

    I am infuriated by the wording:I’m sorry if anything I MIGHT have done COULD have offended her. A decent apology would be to be sorry because WHAT I DID HURT HER. Even his apology doesn’t take responsibility. IF it offended her???? It’s definitely majorly offensive. MIGHT have done it?? You did it, creep!!

  35. Agent Fang says:

    First Washington and now Hollywood? Please Wall Street never let us down.

  36. CharlieBouquet says:

    Fuck. Not the man who made me appreciate astrophysics. Something forever interested in. Barely passed regents in HS, never went to college. I consume everything I come across of his and play his podcasts to fall asleep ( that or ancent aliens lol). That disappoints me more than others, I admired him greatly.

  37. dj says:

    If DH would have apologised to this poor young woman after she went to HR (or whoever) to complain. I think I could have forgiven this a bit but he went after her MORE after she complained. NO. Dustin. NO. So disappointed.

  38. mtam says:

    Don’t forget the story he gave to playboy where he participated in his brother’s girlfriend’s gang-rape and went into acting because he enjoyed the applause he received from the other rapists for it. Then he lamented how the worst part about it was that he didn’t “get laid” for another two years.

    He also groped Katherine Ross in front of the crew on The Graduate, laughed it off, and bragged that she had to apologize to him for not taking it well.

  39. Sparkly says:

    I never heard any of the rumors about Dustin. I always liked him. Between him, Spacey, and Jensen & Jared, a lot of my old favorites are showing their asses lately. I’m glad these stories are coming out though. It’s good that people are finally coming forward and letting them know this behavior will no longer be accepted.