The Last Days of Bigly: ‘Impeachment is being considered as a realistic outcome’

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I don’t remember signing up for Vanity Fair’s email alerts, but I get a half-dozen emails from them every day and I don’t mind them. The peeps at VF know how to write a subject lede too: “BREAKING: ‘He’s F—ked’: Inside the West Wing After Indictment Day.” YES. I will read that, thank you, Vanity Fair. Vanity Fair’s Gabriel Sherman wrote an exclusive full of exquisite details from The Last Days of Bigly, One Can Only Hope. In truth, everyone within the White House has been leaking to mainstream media outlets for months now. It’s kind of funny, like all of these Deplorable Douchebags want “credit” for knowing the end is near. Anyway, you can read the full VF piece here. Some highlights:

Ha, Sam Nunberg went on the record: “Here’s what Manafort’s indictment tells me: Mueller is going to go over every financial dealing of Jared Kushner and the Trump Organization,” said former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunberg. “Trump is at 33 percent in Gallup. You can’t go any lower. He’s f–ked.”

People in the White House are literally leaving the room if the subject of Russia comes up: The first charges in the Mueller probe have kindled talk of what the endgame for Trump looks like, according to conversations with a half-dozen advisers and friends of the president. For the first time since the investigation began, the prospect of impeachment is being considered as a realistic outcome and not just a liberal fever dream. According to a source, advisers in the West Wing are on edge and doing whatever they can not to be ensnared. One person close to Dina Powell and Gary Cohn said they’re making sure to leave rooms if the subject of Russia comes up.

Trump’s instinct is to blame Hillary Clinton: “Trump wants to be critical of Mueller,” one person who’s been briefed on Trump’s thinking says. “He thinks it’s unfair criticism. Clinton hasn’t gotten anything like this. And what about Tony Podesta? Trump is like, When is that going to end?”

Everybody hates Jared Kushner: When Roger Stone recently told Trump that Kushner was giving him bad political advice, Trump agreed, according to someone familiar with the conversation. “Jared is the worst political adviser in the White House in modern history,” Nunberg said. “I’m only saying publicly what everyone says behind the scenes at Fox News, in conservative media, and the Senate and Congress.”

Steve Bannon believes Trump’s Cabinet will invoke the 25th Amendment:
Two weeks ago, according to a source, Bannon did a spitball analysis of the Cabinet to see which members would remain loyal to Trump in the event the 25th Amendment were invoked, thereby triggering a vote to remove the president from office. Bannon recently told people he’s not sure if Trump would survive such a vote. “One thing Steve wants Trump to do is take this more seriously,” the Bannon confidant told me. “Stop joking around. Stop tweeting.”

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Sherman also writes with confidence that Roger Stone has been trying to convince Trump to call for a special prosecutor to “investigate Hillary Clinton’s role in approving the controversial Uranium One deal that’s been a locus of rightwing hysteria.” This bears repeating, over and over and over again: the Republicans would have been so much happier if Hillary Clinton had won. Even now, they’ve built a little delusional bubble for themselves where Clinton is president and must be held accountable for all of her unpresidential transgressions. As for the rest of it… Trump finally acknowledging that Jared Kushner has the political instincts of a turnip, well, that’s beautiful. I also love that EVEN STEVE BANNON wants Trump to stop tweeting. The Last Days of Bigly, y’all.

Also, the Baby Fists dialed up Maggie Haberman at the New York Times yesterday and tried to sound calm and measured. He still lied his mountainous ass off though.

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  1. Enough Already says:

    This would literally be the only thing to salvage the hellscape that is 2017.

    • Megan says:

      Yesterday they put the feelers out about him not running for a second term. I think he is trying to escape impeachment by agreeing not to run again.

      • Lindy79 says:

        I sincerely hope not, but it’s a possibilty since his ego wont allow him to be controlled by these people, he’s *that* stupid. If he looks to be in trouble, he’ll drag them all down with him and they probably know it.

        3 more years of this crap?! And you know he won’t just sit there quietly for the three years, it’ll be exactly the same: fake news, twitter, racism, homophobia, screwing healthcare etc.
        Also, the more of these cretins taken down by this, the better. I want them all shitting their pants and dragged out of there humiliated.

        I can’t believe how flawed the systems are, that could protect him, because it’s in their own self interests.

      • Annabelle Bronstein says:

        I noticed that too, Megan. I chalked it up to a Trump always trying to make everything a game show (tune in next week to see if Trump will run again) type of thing. But who knows?

      • magnoliarose says:

        He is exhausting for all of us and has been since he began campaigning and for some of us a lot longer than that. Finally, I think he has drained some of his supporters. There is only so much a person can take of constant stimulation and gaslighting. His failures are undeniable, and there is no one to blame so the whole party can’t scapegoat anyone anymore.

        Jared was stupid to get involved with that family in the first place. He is way out of his depth and too slow to understand that. He isn’t a decent person, but these guys are hardcore shameless grifters, all of them and they are always on the take. 45 and his kin are in a league of their own, and they don’t care who gets destroyed as long as they make money and can finger some patsy to take the fall. This family is a cluster flock of sociopaths, and the sooner they and their minions are gone the better we will all be.
        The people who stuck with him are done and have no credibility to recover their reputations.
        The only silver lining is that the problems with our system are exposed, and new legislation needs to be put in place so that we never end up here again.

      • Erica_V says:

        He can’t publicly say that tho as he’s using his re-election campaign funds to fund his legal defense even tho I really thought that was illegal.

      • lucy2 says:

        Interesting. And kind of disheartening, because I could see them all agreeing to this. He agrees not to run again, they agree to let him stay. Ugh. And he’d go out claiming he got so much done he didn’t need a second term, or some similar garbage.

      • Kitten says:

        “Jared was stupid to get involved with that family in the first place.”

        Actually, Jared is a perfect fit for this family and he knew EXACTLY what he was doing by getting involved with the daughter of a real estate mogul.

        Recall that Jared came from a family of crooks and it is all he knows. He defended his father’s abhorrent behavior and helped to facilitate his crimes. His father was greedy, ruthless, and entirely bereft of remorse–an utterly shameful and disgusting person.
        Jared is absolutely NO BETTER than the Trumps–he’s cut from the same unethical grifting cloth as the rest of them. But again, he comes from a crime family so he probably sees nothing wrong with what his father-in-law is doing.

      • Megan says:

        The Daily Beast is reporting that buried in the Manafort indictment is a link to the Russian mob. Dollars to donuts Trump is linked to them, too.

        https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-reveals-new-manafort-link-to-organized-crime

      • magnoliarose says:

        @kitten

        Oh yeah his Dad is an awful person, and Jared is too, but he is stupid as a box of rocks. He wasn’t a player in NYC until he married CBG and it is a far more significant real estate market than New Jersey. He’s made a terrible deal that might destroy his family’s business because he isn’t the mogul he likes to pretend to be. I am glad too because the fool is a slum lord with no conscience.

        He is to blame for his actions and his overconfidence. Before all this, he was just some guy who bought a newspaper from a shady family with money. Not particularly remarkable or well liked but probably not heading to federal prison.
        I don’t feel sorry for him at all just to be clear. I just think he was stupid to ignore all the warnings. Stupid to look up to dishonest men like his father and 45. He has gotten away with being a spoiled crap garbage person because no one paid attention to him, but his arrogance is going to cost him bigly.
        Maybe he can share a cell with Jr.

      • Tina says:

        @Megan, I agree. IMO, the biggest impediment to Mueller getting people to turn is the fear that the Russian mob or FSB (not that there’s a big difference) will pull a Litvinenko on them.

    • jen g. says:

      Remember when we all thought 2015 was the worst? Those were the days…..

    • Rene Besette says:

      It would be an early present from Santa for you all.!!!

      • AnneC says:

        Starting to think that trump may be brought down by past illegal business practices. Mueller was given go ahead to explore everything and you know trump is a huge grifter and has been probably laundering money/cutting corners in shady business deals for years. He ran for president to publicize his brand and now hopefully his hubris will bring him down. And please take your entire deplorable family with you to jail.

  2. Rapunzel says:

    “Something something Podesta…something something uranium… something something emails. Blah blah blah Crooked Hillary…yada yada yada … corrupt Clinton Administration. #MAGA” – leaked GOP talking points.

    These dummies have nothing else.

    • Alix says:

      “I just got fantastic poll numbers” — this lying piece of crap continues to believe the job is all about (imagined) ratings. Managed, through some ugly twist of fate, to become POTUS (abbreviated, in his case, to POS), and still thinks like a thirsty reality-TV hump.

      • Lahdidahbaby says:

        POTUS/POS: you got it for now as far as I’m concerned, Alix. The Internet is yours for at least the next few hours,

      • Giddy says:

        I could be wrong, but I don’t think there has been a poll done on Bigly since the indictments. The next one will be interesting.

      • Maren says:

        He is delusional. He is at 33% and he says this?
        I havent seen him in motion except for short videos for several months, as I have no tv. I saw him on tv the other day and I was stunned at how vacant, almost confused, doddering he looked. I have said for a long time that I think he has Alzheimers, and I think it is accelerating. He thought he had lunch with Tillerson “last week” when it was the day before, he said Melania wanted to come when she was right there, his speech, always bad, is really deteriorating, (diversery?) and he forgets to sign things and walks out of the room.
        He is 71, obese, doesnt exercise, possibky has dementia, and is unraveling right in front of our eyes. This is a frightening time for the world. I pray Mueller stays safe and is moving fast.

  3. Indiana Joanna says:

    The VF article also reports baby fists has turned on Jailbird Jared for advising him to fire Comey. Because then Mueller, who turned out to be the better person to lead the Russia investigation, stepped in.

    As for Bannon, I wish that creep would wither away. His pseudo-intellectual, nonsensical jawing is boring. His priority has always been to be the most fascinating, smartest person in the room but in reality he’s a pompous, muddy thinking, mean spirited moron.

    • Rapunzel says:

      Bannon, Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and all of their ilk need to go away. Forever.

    • Mermaid says:

      It was inevitable that Dump and Jared would turn on one another. I’m just mildly curious over which one Ivanka sides with. The hate this man has reaped is so damaging to our country. I will never look at some extended family members the same way ever again.

      • Raina says:

        Ivanka will side with her boyfriend over her husband probably.

      • Shambles says:

        Jared didn’t write the will. We all know who she’ll side with.

      • Alison says:

        @Raina LMAO!!

      • lightpurple says:

        Princess Nagini looks out for Princess Nagini. Whichever option appears to offer Princess Nagini safety, she will take. She will have no problem throwing her husband under any and all buses – somebody must stay out of prison for the children after all. And she’ll have no problem throwing daddy under too if it comes to that. Donnie jr will gladly impale himself on every sword on the planet to make Daddy happy but not Princess Nagini. Nagini always comes first and she is looking forward to wasting our tax dollars in Japan next week while she promotes Trump businesses. You know, for the empowerment of women named Princess Nagini.

      • Indiana Joanna says:

        Grifter Barbie is in deep trouble for several lies and omissions on federal documents. I think she’ll ultimately think only of herself and take whatever deal is least harmful.

      • Megan says:

        @lightpurple THIS! Ivanka is in it for herself. She is daddy’s little girl through and through.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Complicity Grifter Barbie has already put a plan in place for her roach like survival. Divorce is definitely on the table, and now that Tangerine 45 is no longer useful she will try to save herself. She will cry that she is a mother and may pretend that it is because of her gender.
        Word on the street is that she already has a man waiting in the wings to make her getaway to a new life. Possibly she is behind throwing Crooked J under the bus to hasten her escape.
        She is her father more than any other person is, and he will probably even forgive her if she abandons him. CGB will do it in a way that may make him admire her for it.

      • swak says:

        @lp, read that Ivanka is not going to Japan because she is going to stay home to push child care tax credit. Jared supposedly is not going also. Plus reading today that aides are worried he won’t keep focused on the Asian trip and have been briefing him a little at a time because he can’t take in a lot of info at one time. Also read today that they are making sure he gets all his favorite foods on the trip. Must be exhausting to be his minder.

      • KC says:

        @ Mermaid
        Based on her alleged sexy times Spotify Playlist I think she might not have a problem siding with her dad and simultaneously getting an opportunity to trade in for a newer, spicier husband.

      • Brickyardute says:

        Ivanka’s side piece? I have not heard! Spill the beans!

      • Lightpurple says:

        @Swak, she arrived in Japan today and posted video, for which we paid, of herself arriving. She will skip the China part of the trip to beg for her tax cuts because, well, she already got those Chinese trademarks in their little pay to play game. A trip to India is also scheduled

      • Maren says:

        IvanKKKa will side with her Daddy-Husband. Count on it.

    • Betsy says:

      Bannon is one of those vile people whose horribleness will cause him to outlive us all.

      Luckily for us, it seems he’ll be locked away and wearing orange.

      • Giddy says:

        He gets so worked up that I honestly think he’ll either stroke out or have a heart attack while he is in the middle of one of his rants. Sad.

    • still_sarah says:

      @ Indiana Joanna : This is Bannon’s revenge against Kushner for forcing him (Bannon) out and (in Bannon’s eyes at least) subverting the populist message of candidate Trump. I read the Vanity Fair article online and it is clear that the “source” from the Trump-Bannon phone call is Bannon himself or someone Bannon spoke to directly. Cannon is a vengeful bastard and he’s coming after his favourite “cuck” – Jared Kushner.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Jared can’t be a “cuck” because he is a Jew. Cuck means a race traitor. The alt-righters managed to make the word mainstream on purpose.

        Bannon is anti-semitic so he hated Jared from jumpstreet and he is vengeful. All of these people have oversized egos and thin skin so they personalize their attacks. There is no real strategy. Bannon swaggers around like he is important for once in his miserable life but he’s a loser who has been given more attention by the press than he deserves.

      • Kitten says:

        From my understanding, the word “cuck” literally means a submissive man who is sexually “cuckolded” by a woman. It is meant to denote weakness and impotence, which is why the Alt-Right uses it often in reference to neocon globalists or ineffectual politicians who are beholden to other countries and fail to design policy that supports American economic independence.

        I think what MagnoliaRose is getting at is how the term has been co-opted by white nationalists who feel as though their country has been taken away from them and not enough had been done by the establishment conservatives to protect it. “Cuck” is a fear of inadequacy–sexually and otherwise–an insecurity that will surely lead to the loss of the things that are most important. I believe the race element is tied to earlier literature and cartoons that portrayed WW getting satisfied by black men because their “cuck” husbands couldn’t do the job effectively so yes, racist AND misogynistic.

        But Still Sarah is correct in that the Alt Right led by Bannon consistently refer to Jared as a “cuck” and a “globalist cuck”. I don’t think he’s is precluded from the term because he is Jewish.

    • Giddy says:

      I just told my husband that there were mentions here of Complicity Barbie having a side piece. With great sarcasm he said “ Are you telling me that Jared can’t keep a woman satisfied? I’m shocked”.

    • Annetommy says:

      The extent to which they lie was demonstrated again yesterday. Trump shamefully called the US justice ssystem a joke and a laughing stock. Jim Acosta of CNN (so easy on the eye…) asked Huckabee Sanders why. She said he hadn’t said it. Extraordinary. We can see him saying it. Orwellian levels of untruth.

      • holly hobby says:

        He also called for the death penalty for the NY suspect. Way to go, tainting that jury. Might as well release that terrorist now since his public defender will be spreading that tweet long and wide.

      • nicole says:

        I love Jim Acosta, he is gorgeous.

      • jwoolman says:

        During the vice presidential candidates debate, Kaine kept quoting Trump and Pence kept saying Trump never said that, smirking as though Kaine was delusional. But it was all true and captured on video, I remembered seeing Trump saying precisely those things myself. Not just reading about it, but seeing and hearing it.

        I was really baffled. Why would Pence lie about something so easily verified? I haven’t believed a word out of Pence’s mouth since. I used to say Pence may be horrible but he wouldn’t go along with the Trump Russia shenanigans and he understood the role of protest in our system and so wouldn’t get all bent out of shape by criticism (lord knows he’s been booed often enough in Indiana!). But he’s such a liar, and everything since then has proved it. His little stunt at the game was a good example – he went there not to see the game, but to deliberately walk out of it and then falsely claim the players were disrespecting the flag and the troops. At an expense greater than his yearly salary. Who does that without realizing that he will be caught?

        So I’m not really sure what game Pence is playing now, but it’s not a good one.

      • jwoolman says:

        Trump loves the death penalty. He always wants to kill people. The five kids in NYC who were falsely imprisoned for years were treated to the Trumpster taking out a full page ad urging the death penalty for them. He never cares about silly little things like evidence or getting the full story first or the fact that if you’re dead, you can’t be released from prison when new evidence clears you.

        But this is also the guy who thought torture was a great idea and that it was just fine to go after the families of terrorists. Bone Spurs Trump strikes again.

  4. Seraphina says:

    Impeachment? It would be a Christmas miracle. So tired of no action taken with an executive branch that is dirty and broken beyond repair. This was a waste of taxpayers money: to put him in the Oval Office and his family, sans his wife.

    I think the only one I may have respect for is his wife. She didn’t put forth false pretenses. You got what you saw. She never wanted this and has not played the part.

    I say good riddance if he is impeached. But I’ll believe it when I see the moving vans pull up to move him out.

    • Alix says:

      Moving vans? I want handcuffs, a perp walk, and a police car. It’s what I asked Santa for, and I *have* been pretty good all year…

    • Elkie says:

      Not played the part??

      Melania pushed the racist birther narrative on a home shopping show, lied about her education, lied about not working in the US illegally, was at pains to point out that she was the “right” (i.e. white) kind of immigrant, plagiarised Michelle O at the RNC, defended his decades of predatory sexual behaviour and has stood shoulder to shoulder with him as he strip rights from women and minorities.

      Not to mention the millions it cost US taxpayers to keep her in Trump Tower for all those months. Pay those back and apologise for all the above and maybe I’d feel sorry for her.

      • lucy2 says:

        I agree Elkie. While I acknowledge her marriage is gross and she’s probably horribly unhappy, it was all of her own choosing, and she willingly contributed to all this.

      • Maren says:

        Hey, at least the porn star is keeping her clothes on. Small things to be grateful for.

      • jwoolman says:

        Melania is married to a vindictive, rage-filled narcissist and very likely didn’t realize what he was really like until she was married and pregnant (typical pattern for extreme narcissists, they drop the charm at a certain point when the spouse feels trapped). We can’t believe a thing she says is her true opinion until Donald is safely dead and her son is an adult.

        And Americans are going to have to get used to paying for separate security details. One of these days we’ll have a POTUS who is officially divorced rather than de facto separated like Donald and Melania. You can’t force a woman to go live in the White House with her ex to save money (which is just a drop in the bucket compared with other expenses, just buy a few less bombs). The screaming at Melania for staying in NYC reminds me of the screaming every time the Obamas took a vacation because it “cost so much money” or whenever Obama played golf.

        Really, Presidents and their families are not supposed to be prisoners in the White House and it’s going to cost a lot of money to protect them when they go beyond the gates for any reason. We don’t force Presidential progeny to home school because of that. Trump’s golf trips are annoying because he’s deliberately making money off the people who are pledging to take a bullet for him. If he didn’t own the premises or wasn’t such a grifter, complaints wouldn’t be valid.

        I wish Melania had stayed in NYC with Barron, it’s such a mess in DC. The Feds just have to come up with a more reasonable approach to such security, one that doesn’t disrupt local activity. That’s a problem with the plan, not a problem with Melania.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      @Seraphina-
      Take comfort in this: the wheels of justice turn slowly. Mueller is crossing all of his Ts, and dotting all of his Is. They must start at the bottom with the peons to trap the grifters at the top.

      • Lady D says:

        There was more to the article Kaiser sited. This is one of the last paragraphs:
        a special prosecutor looking into Uranium One would also have to investigate the F.B.I.’s role in approving the deal, thereby making Mueller—who was in charge of the bureau at the time—a target. Stone’s choice for a special prosecutor: Rudy Giuliani law colleague Marc Mukasey or Fox News pundit Andrew Napolitano. “You would immediately have to inform Mueller, Comey, and [Deputy Attorney General] Rod Rosenstein that they are under federal investigation,” Stone said. “Trump can’t afford to fire Mueller politically. But this pushes him aside.”

      • holly hobby says:

        Too bad that Dingbat Roger Stone can’t name the special prosecutor. The lizard can’t either. It’s up to Jeffy Beau Keebler to do it but he’s under Mueller’s microscope right now. Mueller has the receipts too.

        Anything they do to thwart Mueller will be an obstruction of justice. These delusional clowns should stop it.

    • Teebee says:

      Trump will resign before he’s impeached. I’ve predicted that once it hits point of no return, he’ll do a magnanimous yet totally coward move and step down. He’ll cite all the usual suspect reasons: no one wants him to keep winning anymore, it’s the GOP traitors, he has done all he can and no one appreciates his efforts so fucky’all, he doesn’t want to cloud the issue of getting things done with the witch hunt anymore so let Pence carry out the agenda… blah blah blah, anything but take responsibility or accountability for his inability to govern.

      And then he’ll spend the rest of his days being interviewed any where and way he can so that he can keep the message alive that he did no wrong, that it was everyone else’s fault, and that America lost when he quit.

      • Maren says:

        My prediction: he will pardon them all, resign, Pence will pardon him, and NY Atty General wil, areat them all. State prison is worse than federal prison.

        Pence is probably going, too. Manafort brought him in when Trump wanted Chris Christie for VP.

  5. Beth says:

    My fingers and toes are crossed. The Trump nightmare needs to end

    • Raina says:

      It was almost worth him being “elected” President just to watch him implode so deliciously. I hope every article written about him begins with: The failing Donald Trump…

      • Esmom says:

        Not sure about that. I think I and plenty of others could have done without him being elected.

      • Giddy says:

        Esmom, I agree wholeheartedly. I really didn’t need all the stress of these last months. My doctor told me that it is widely acknowledged in the medical community that Xanax prescriptions have gone through the roof because of Trump.

      • nicole says:

        Raina, I agree with you.

  6. Chrissy says:

    On the surface, of course, Impeachment would be great, but then what? Homophobic asshole Pence? Smug disgusting Ryan? And I’m also afraid of the call-to-arms led by that psycho Bannon. You just know that Trump’s cult followers would be willing to start a civil war for the Orange Stain. I fear for America either way, I’m afraid.

    • Pedro45 says:

      This is why I can’t fully enjoy all of the impeachment talk. I actually think Pence is worse than Trump.

      • Megan says:

        We’re getting Pence’s agenda anyway. Transgender military ban, Muslim ban, Crazy Steve King and his abortion bill, defunding Obamacare, massive deregulation at EPA, etc. At least Pence won’t start a war with a tweet.

      • Vizia says:

        The only way Pence would be better is that he probably won’t actually foment a nuclear war.

      • Pedro45 says:

        @Megan, honestly, it’s like choosing between terminal cancers. I just think Pence can get more legislation through this terrible Congress and calm the waters enough to make people feel like they are in better hands. It’s terrible but everyone around Trump automatically looks like a great statesman. That’s a dangerous way to look at Pence (I’m talking about people in general, not you in particular).

        But again, this is all speculation and we are a long way from impeachment.

      • lucy2 says:

        In some ways, yes, he’s worse. He doesn’t seem to be a bumbling idiot incapable of doing anything, which is our only saving grace with Dump right now, he doesn’t know how to do anything, and doesn’t understand the office he’s in. Pence would, and could push through more bad stuff.
        But I think he’s less dangerous in terms of war and foreign relations, and, most importantly, does not have a big base that will turn up to vote. If enthusiasm on that side wanes with Dump out of office, maybe the Dems pick up more seats across the board.

      • CynicalAnn says:

        I’m with you. Pence knows how to work with Congress. Legislation would actually get passed. The only plus would be no nuclear war. What a sad time we’re living in that that’s the bar.

      • Trump Hater says:

        Trump is like an ass cancer and Pence is like Bowel cancer, with Ryan and Mitch rounding out the other cancers. Take your pick- they are all painful.

      • A says:

        Be grateful if Trump is impeached because the yeah, sure, you won’t have to deal with nuclear strikes against *you*. But none of this shit is gonna change for countries like South Korea, or Japan, or Syria, or literally anywhere else in the world where the US has its hand in a pie, regardless of whether or not Trump or Pence is president. The US has been at war for literally decades now, it’s just that Americans have never had to contend with it at home.

    • Luca76 says:

      This ‘logic’ annoys me to no end. Take away that Pence is possibly implicated in certain things himself for a moment and look at a thing called precedent. If you leave that man in office because Trump is better you set the precedent that all of his corruption, cronyism, and outright treasonous (though not legally treasonous) behavior is fine. You will just get more in the future. If you let the felonies just sit there more will come more blatantly. Anyway whoever is president after will be a lame duck aka Gerald Ford anyway.

      • Pedro45 says:

        It’s not faulty “logic”, this is all speculation anyway. I also don’t think they can prove Pence’ s involvement enough to indict or remove him from office. We are still a long way from impeachment.

      • Kitten says:

        I tend to agree with you, Luca76. I’ve gone back and forth on this, wondering who would be worse, but I still come back to the fact that we are stuck with Trump’s terrible legislation no matter what. He is NOT a moderate or a populist, he’s a hardcore RW Rethuglican. But he’s also mentally unfit to serve, he’s reckless and quite frankly, out of his mind. Pence is a terrible, TERRIBLE person who espouses terrible ideology, but he’s calm in demeanor and he at least has the “potential” (yes I know it’s unlikely) to work in a bipartisan manner. Sure, he’s evil as f*ck but he’s not unpredictable, impetuous, temperamental, and juvenile the way Dump is.
        He knows how to pretend to be human at least.

        And honestly, the unvarnished truth is that we cannot continue on like this. I don’t think we will make it another three years with Trump at the helm and avoid a disaster of epic proportions.

    • Who ARE these people? says:

      Thanks Luca. The rule of law has to be the rule of law. The investigation is not political in nature. And Ford should not have pardoned Nixon. That wasn’t “healing” for the nation.

      • Kitten says:

        An impeachment would be the first time in Trump’s presidency that the GOP actually observed the rule of law when it comes to the orange one. I’m in favor of giving them one last chance to right this terrible wrong.

    • Maren says:

      Pence was beought into Trump’s orbit by Manafort. Trump wanted Chris Christie. Pence lied about knowing Flynn was involved with the Russians. jeff Sessions was who Papadopoulos reported to.
      They are ALL going down.

  7. grabbyhands says:

    I think the “I’m not angry at anybody” call to the NYT (do you hate them or not, Bigly??) was interesting on the heels of the news going around that he was souring on Kushner and was blaming him for giving poor advice. That he would turn on pretty much anyone to save himself doesn’t surprise me in the least, but I figured throwing Kushner under the bus would be something of a nuclear option because he isn’t going to want to upset his daughter wife, who will be the last pawn standing as he tosses people out of the life boat.

    I wonder how far daughterly devotion will go? Wifely devotion? She is as much of a grifter as the rest of them (she learned it all at his knee, after all), so it will be interesting to see where she feels like her best options lie. She’s already going to be persona non grata when they leave DC (however it occurs), at least in some of the society circles she valued in NY so much, and if the investigation and indictments get around to them, she’ll have to choose between who makes her less of a target.

    I think it is possible for 45 to lay low for a while, but his mouth (or his tiny fingers) and his arrogance always eventually over ride any common sense. I’m not quite ready to crack open the bubbly yet-the GOP still have too many ways to f*ck this investigation-but yesterday’s new was satisfying.

    • Jerusha says:

      ivanka can move to Florida and hang with the MAL crowd. Anyone who would pay $200,000 to join that tacky club is just like them.

    • still_sarah says:

      I’m not sure that Ivanka’s loyalties to Jared are stronger than her loyalties to daddy. Jared seems to me to be a Donald-wanna-be, someone who worships at the throne of Donald Trump. So maybe Ivanka looked at him and saw someone who would go along with the Trump “family values” and not make any waves. Maybe she thought he would never try to come between her and her father and thus she wouldn’t have to change anything if she married him. Basically Jared would be a Trump family patsy. Just conjecture here – I have no inside information.

  8. Pedro45 says:

    Nothing says, “I’m not mad” like calling up the Times and ranting about how not mad you are.

  9. BlueMoodyHues says:

    As much as I’d like him gone, they’d been saying the same thing for 10 months now. Everyone around him is just as bad or worse anyway.

    • Shambles says:

      WE have been saying it for the last 10 months. They have now started saying it, which I think is significant. Plus, for the last 10 months, his campaign chairman hadn’t been arrested by the FBI. His campaign advisor hadn’t plead guilty to lying to the FBI about Russian collusion. That’s new.

      • BlueMoodyHues says:

        Impeachment has been muttered for awhile by so-called insiders.

        Maybe it’ll turn out, but dollars to doughnuts we’ll still be saying almost there at this time next year.

  10. boredblond says:

    It’s a lovely thought, but considering those around him are as slimy a bunch of liars as he is, I take their words with a grain of salt, especially bannon, who seems downright evil.

    • Nancy says:

      Another blonde here, but more fed up than bored. I do agree with you. There are no good alternatives. President Pence? Our country has a history of forgiveness….I tend to agree with @BlueMoodyHues above. SSDD, I doubt he’s going anywhere any time soon. *why is it that no matter what current mockery of justice is exposed, trump has Hillary on his lips. He is obsessed with her.*

  11. Nicole says:

    I’ll believe nothing until he leaves and takes all the traitorous idiots with him.

  12. Eric says:

    There are still a few ducks to grab before “impeachment” talk.
    Mueller must get, and will get, Level 42 peeps like Dotard Jr, Jared, and the Keebler Elf, Sessions.

    Once those three are bagged, Emperor Zero will resign the presidency and sealed indictments for obstruction and money laundering will be unveiled.

    Pence and perhaps even Ryan will be charged as co-conspirators in the Russia web. Both of these clowns knew of collusion with the campaign and Pence certainly benefitted from it, having lied about the Flynn firing and being complicit in the Comey takedown.

    That leaves Ryan as prez.

    Thoughts?

    Btw. Merry Christmas!

    • Mermaid says:

      I heard Ryan is implicated too taking money from Russia at the RNC convention. That leaves Hatch who is retiring so then it would go to Mattis.

      • IlsaLund says:

        I believe the Russians helped the Republicans. That’s why so many members of Congress are doing their best to impede the investigations and don’t want to speak against Trump.

      • Betsy says:

        @IlsaLund – there’s no other conclusionat this point. The Louise Mensch rumor is that the entire GOP is under a RICO investigation so…

      • Anastasia says:

        Mattis actually reads. Extensively. I don’t know much else about him, but I do know that.

      • Veronica says:

        I could survive Mattis. He may be conservative, but he strikes me as fairly level-headed, educated, and has a good reputation with the military members I know.

      • cr says:

        “Louise Mensch rumor ”
        Mensch doesn’t know diddly.

    • ida says:

      @Mermaid that is what I have read, too.

    • cr says:

      In order to get Ryan as Pres both Pence and Trump would have to be removed at the same time. Highly unlikely.

      • Luca76 says:

        That’s what happened with Nixon. Spiro Agnew resigned first as a sacrificial lamb then Gerald Ford was appointed. Nixon then negotiated a pardon (although we are supposed to pretend that didn’t happen).

      • Honeybee Blues says:

        Luca, Agnew’s crimes were separate from Watergate. The investigation into him accepting bribes whilst gov. of MD had begun before WG. The two were separate investigations.

      • Luca76 says:

        Yes I know but Nixon still offered him up as an appeasement in the face of mounting pressure over Watergate.

      • Lightpurple says:

        That isn’t what happened with Nixon. Ford was appointed; he wasn’t Speaker of the House. Neither was Rockefeller. Speaker Carl Albert stayed right where he was.

      • jetlagged says:

        Ford’s circumstances were unique. He is the only person in US history who has held the office of President without first being duly elected either as Vice President or President. Every other VP that assumed the office of President ran for election in that capacity*

        *Not counting the early years when the electoral college voted for VP on a separate ballot and on one occasion actually picked the guy that had just lost the general election (Thomas Jefferson). It took a couple of messy elections to realize the folly of that idea and the Constitution got a re-write.

    • magnoliarose says:

      I believe that the next person will be powerless because the party is fractured. Some of the bigots will resent that they didn’t get to drag us back to the 19th century and 45’s base will fight them.
      We can only hope to tread water and try to stop some of their legislation and appointments until 2018-2020.

    • NotSoSocialButterfly says:

      Thoughts?
      Too busy vomiting.

    • Christin says:

      I think (hope) there will be nunerous people charged before this ends. Watergate took down dozens.

    • Lightpurple says:

      Can we PLEASE stop with this misunderstanding of the line of succession? The only way Ryan becomes President is if both Trump & Pence are taken out at the exact same time; like what happens to Kiefer Sutherland’s character in Designated Survivor. We have past history to illustrate what happens. If the President leaves, the VP moves up & then NOMINATES a new VP who must then be approved by Congress. The Speaker does NOT become VP unless nominated into that slot. Nixon NAMED Ford to replace Agnew. Congress approved. Ford was NEVER Speaker. Carl Albert was Speaker & stayed put. When Nixon resigned, VP Ford moved up to President & nominated Rockefeller as VP. Congress approved. Rockefeller wasn’t Speaker either; Albert was.

      • jetlagged says:

        Thank you @lightpurple. By way of illustration, let’s assume Trump leaves office and we suddenly have President Pence. The only conceivable way Speaker Ryan could become President Ryan is if something happened to Pence between the time he became President and Congress confirmed his choice for VP. In the case of Agnew/Ford, that took about six weeks. Once Pence names his choice (He’s a dummy if he doesn’t already have a short list) the Republicans in congress could probably get the new VP confirmed faster than that. Confirmation only needs a simple majority.

  13. Radley says:

    It’s just a matter of time. The financial crimes for sure will take him down.

    Did anyone else notice him struggling with his words yesterday? He always does, but I was really struck by it yesterday. He’s clearly in decline.

    And also the Dotard has no idea how the criminal justice system works with his Gitmo rant. No surprise there. I’m so tired of this evil, senile, criminal.

    • whatWHAT? says:

      Radley, do you have a link or can you refer me to a site that has vid of him speaking yesterday? would love to see it – thanks!

    • Maren says:

      I commented about this up above.
      I think he has Alzheimers and it is accelerating rapidly from the stress. Others think he may have tertiary syphillis. He definitely is declining, whatever it is.

  14. Lolo86lf says:

    Oh my God, I just had an org**m thinking of Donald Trump impeachment. He is so unfit to be president of the United States of America.

  15. Esmom says:

    “Even now, they’ve built a little delusional bubble for themselves where Clinton is president and must be held accountable for all of her unpresidential transgressions.”

    Yes but also “held accountable for all of THEIR unpresidential transgressions.” Seriously, what would all these scumbags say/do if they didn’t have Hillary as a scapegoat? It’s mind-boggling. And enraging. She was in town for a book signing and a story announcing it was posted on one of my local FB pages and the comments were all “she needs to stop talking” and “lock her up.” These weren’t trolls, these were neighbors. Who are still falling for the unending propaganda.

    Last night I got into a Twitter beef with a guy who claimed Trump’s “grab her by the p—y” debacle was “debunked.” I said “please tell me how you can debunk something that came straight from his mouth on camera.” I can’t anymore.

    I am beside myself about all we’re learning about the Russian social media ads. Fox News may have primed people to drink it but these ads were the actual kool-aid, I think.

    • Wren33 says:

      Truly the Republicans don’t seem to know how to do anything at this point except oppose Obama and Clinton, which is hard to do when neither are in office.

    • Kitten says:

      You would think we’d be immune to it by now, but it still never ceases to amaze me how deep the delusion goes with his supporters. Sunk cost fallacy. These people simply won’t abandon their captain, even as the titanic sinks….

    • Juls says:

      They spent 8 years doing nothing except obstructing Obama. They stated their only goal was to make him a one term president. Then the last 4 years, the only goal was to stop his agenda. They don’t know how to govern, how to run a country. All they know how to do is be “opposed” to something. All they know how to do is obstruct *cough*justice*cough*, that’s why they can’t get their own agenda through even though they control every aspect of the federal government. Morons. Useless bags of flesh. I am at least grateful for their incompetence.

      • magnoliarose says:

        They exposed themselves as being incompetent and their real agenda to throw the poor and middle class under the bus for the wealthy is front and center. We all knew the Rethugs were like this, but their base seemed to ignore that.

  16. RBC says:

    He is getting all his ducks in a row to throw a mountain size crap at the fan regarding the involvement of other members of his administration and the Republician party with Russia. 45 will not go down without a fight and dragging others down with him. He is cornered and he knows it

    • Eric says:

      This Asia trip (14 days/5 or 6 countries if you count Hawaii) will be extremely difficult for Dotard.

      Flynn falls Friday and one of the 3 Level 42 peeps (Jared, Dotard Jr, or Sessions) will be indicted.

      Happy travels!

      • Indiana Joanna says:

        And Grifter Barbie was advised to drop out of accompanying drump on the trip. Her excuse is that she needs to work on passing tax reform with Congress. Hahahahaha.

      • whatWHAT? says:

        what are the odds that he (or his babysitters) find a way to cut the trip short?

        we know he can barely walk a couple hundred yards (if even THAT much) without using a golf cart…how will he survive two weeks of traveling and “working”? No stamina – SAD!

      • magnoliarose says:

        I hope we get some good GIFs from his Asia trip. Lol My nephew sends the funniest ones to me.
        Flynn is probably in the most bottomless hole along with Jr, Crooked J, and Elfin Bigot. When the money laundering takes center stage, it will be like a domino chain because I believe the crimes there are staggering and numerous.

      • Curiosity says:

        Trump no stamina:

        He will try to summon them into his hotel / meeting room whatever. In doing so he will appear to try to rule them like colonial powers did in the past and the US’ image in Asia will suffer a lot. At best Asia will no longer take seriously neither Trump nor the USA.
        ATBE. As to be expected.
        ATBC. And to be continued.

  17. adastraperaspera says:

    A mere four days after Manafort’s indictment is unsealed, and the whole Trump house of cards is looking very shaky. If any more are there and unsealed soon, he cannot hold power. I think the Senate hearings with the tech companies yesterday was an indication that the GOP are going to toss him. People like Tom Cotton of Arkansas, who in June had the gall to say that the Russian investigation was fiction, came out of the gate with aggressive questioning of Twitter, especially. He made it clear that he believes they are willfully aiding Putin by letting their platform be used for election fraud and espionage.

  18. dttimes2 says:

    Any bets on Trump leaving office for “medical” reasons,..fake heart attack anyone ?

    • Karen says:

      I read that he has been talking to advisors about resigning.

      • Anastasia says:

        PLEASE LET THAT BE TRUE.

        I don’t care how he gets out of office, as long as he GETS OUT so he can stop hurting this country and its people.

        And I have the feeling Pence will end up caught up in all this, too.

      • magnoliarose says:

        I hope so. Please say you have psychic powers. I hope!

  19. Chef Grace says:

    I doubt he will be impeached. Even if that happens we get Pence. Pence is a religious nutter who believes women need to be doormats and Stepford wives. We will be back to the stoneage with Pence. The Wankstains of the world will rejoice. Women who have come forward and told their stories about sexual harassment and assault will be told to shut up and put up with it because God says you must. Oh we will be f*cked completely then.
    Rock and hard place indeed.

    • Kitten says:

      Ok but what are you afraid of, exactly?

      That the GOP under Pence will vote against reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act?

      That the GOP under Pence will vote against The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act?

      That the GOP under Pence will oppose the Paycheck Fairness Act?

      That the GOP under Pence will vote for a ban on abortions after 20 weeks, and against funding for Planned Parenthood and Title X?

      That the GOP under Pence will vote against requiring employers to provide health care plans that included contraception?

      That the GOP under Pence will vote to slash USAID–which has a critical role in advancing women’s economic empowerment, security, health, and rights worldwide–in half?

      Hey guess what?
      THESE THINGS HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED.
      We are already IN The Stone Age.
      We can’t get any lower and we cannot get any more regressive, EVEN with Pence.
      Pence would be a lame duck POTUS and honestly, a lame duck is better than a hawk with one talon caught in a bear trap. Trump is literally like a caged animal right now, lashing out at anyone who dares to hold him accountable for his actions.
      This is straight-up DANGEROUS to our country. With Pence, nothing will change, things will not get better but they will not get worse either.

      • Veronica says:

        Exactly. What do people think the worse case scenario is, exactly? The Republicans control all three branches of government. They’re already getting the worst of the worst pushed through where they can. The only reason they haven’t been able to take down the ACA is because of a few party members acting out of common sense (those are my constituent’s healthcare plans!) or spite (John McCain). Look at all of the other garbage they’ve managed to accomplish otherwise. The problem is the fact that he was ever given a stage in the first place. Be more afraid of his supporters and what they will do the more vulnerable among us once their white male savior and the false dream of power is taken from them.

      • Beth says:

        Agree. I hate Pence, but he’s not insane like Trump, who’s one number away from finishing typing in the code to start a nuclear war with NK. Things won’t get better with Pence, but it’s much more dangerous if Trump is not removed

  20. IlsaLund says:

    In the defamation lawsuit against him, Trump’s lawyers argued: “Trump wants a New York state judge to stop the lawsuit on constitutional grounds by arguing the Supremacy Clause bars state lawsuits against a sitting president.”

    This is most likely the same argument he’d use if NY State charges him with financial crimes. Trump is between a rock and a hard place. As long as he’s President he can argue that he’s above state law. If he resigns or is impeached, NY is coming after him. Oh the quandary….lol

    • Honeybee Blues says:

      He can’t be sued as a sitting POSTUS/POS, but he can be charged. Civil court versus criminal court. Two different animals.

    • I'mScaredAsHell says:

      Trump must feel,like a caged rat. In his private life, he could send out his death eater army of lawyers to sue and defend him. But he’s never had to contend with government lawyers at this level of government. It will be interesting to watch as all this unfolds. Not yet convinced he’ll be impeached or the 25th amendment will be invoked. At least not until tax cuts and other heinous damage are done to the country.

  21. Jerusha says:

    Today is my birthday. Talk of impeachment? Best present ever!!!

  22. Lizzie says:

    i don’t think impeachment was ever a “liberal fever dream”. i mean – jesus christ the man is a crook. he has been a crook for 40 years. he will continue to be a crook until the day he dies. i don’t think it was too much to imagine a scenario that would lead to impeachment. even the most disgusting, horrible republicans can only take so much embarrassment.

    • Anastasia says:

      Yes. Anyone who couldn’t see what a con artist and a crook he was during the primaries was just being willfully ignorant. He has YEARS of evil-doing on the record.

    • adastraperaspera says:

      Exactly. I have said before that my grandma pegged him for a crook by reading the tabloid Star Magazine in the 80s. Trump has been a ridiculous con forever, and it’s been out there in the open! The media did not do their job. I am so sick of all their vacuous talking heads, now chatting excitedly about indictments, while they sat by and let this happen.

    • Veronica says:

      And yet, his approval rating is at 33%.

      • robyn says:

        He should have no support at all. The people who stick with him have possibly been involved with crimes or just like his race-bating and the idea of a mostly all white America.

        I can’t help but be suspicious of possible impeachment, especially when Trump and Republicans are grinning like Cheshire cats lately. Trump obviously colluded, just by the information that’s already out there. But it’s apparent there needs to be a mighty big stake through the heart of Trump’s treason and falsehoods to nail him.

    • Beth says:

      I was born in the 70’s and as far back as I can remember, Trump was always known as a crooked, con artist business man. He was always joked about, and Back to the Future 2 Biff Tannen who was a sleazy casino owner, was an imitation of Trump. Who would’ve thought that the con artist, casino owner, cheater, who kept going bankrupt, could become the POTUS? Unbelievable!

      • Christin says:

        Did no one now over age 35 ever read about his bad business deals and private life? Such a caricature of a ‘successful’ person!

      • nicole says:

        He was always tacky as hell, and a complete wannabe celebrity, nobody ever took him serious, how he ever got to be president is still a shocker, I hope he sinks to the bottom as quick as he rose to the top.

  23. Anastasia says:

    The day I never have to see that DAMNABLE orange face of evil is a day I will celebrate for the rest of my life. I curse him.

    • Giddy says:

      Oh, I don’t know. If I could see it every day behind bars it would sure make me happy. Just think how perfect…orange face and hair, orange jumpsuit!

  24. MI6 says:

    Please God. If this happens it will literally turn 2017 around.

    • jwoolman says:

      Don’t get too excited.

      We might have a chance of getting rid of the extreme danger Trump poses because of his vindictive narcissism, unrelenting ignorance, and violent unpredictability. He really could launch WWIII. So just getting him to resign will be a big relief.

      But we will still be stuck with control of the White House and Congress and increasingly the judiciary by people who are scary for other reasons and who are likely to cause significant and long lasting damage in so many ways.

      And we still have to deal with a significant minority of our fellow citizens who put Trump in office and wanted to keep him there. Pandora’s box has been opened wide and we can’t stuff the evils back in very well because they have actually been loose among us for a very long time, just more hidden. Trump didn’t create the evils, he just normalized them and made people feel safe about expressing their deep racism, misogyny, xenophobia etc.

  25. Erica_V says:

    Oh man he is running scared right now BIGLY!!! These articles are… wow!

    After Hillary’s loss I’ve had a very hard time getting my hopes up about things but this has a little spark to it I feel could actually be the beginning of the something real. If this info is leaking my guess is someone very high up is completely aware of how much Mueller really has on the whole administration and is planting the feelers.

    I would also not be surprised if Dump is terrified of his own supporters reaction to the idea of him resigning so he’s willing to be impeached to save face. He can spin that and blame it on someone else. He wouldn’t be able to blame quitting on anyone else but himself so I doubt he’d do that.

    • jwoolman says:

      Trump will have no trouble blaming anybody and everybody for forcing him to resign. His resignation speech should be a classic, unless he takes my advice and just detours to Dubai and stays there before he loses his passport and gets an electronic ankle bracelet. He could do that on the Asia trip….Please.

  26. Madpoe says:

    I’m still placing blame for those that voted this orange stain into office.

  27. dave says:

    This is beginning to get interesting!

  28. BooBooLaRue says:

    PLEASE NO MORE TEASING ON THIS. MAKE IT SO!

  29. Honeybee Blues says:

    And now Mercer is dumping Bannon…on his daughters. This is just strange. He’s selling his shares in Breibart to his daughters, and just did so via press release. HE wants it known!

  30. Curiosity says:

    The US elite has come to terms with Trump. I doubt they want him gone as he doesn’t interfere with their business at all. That is why they like him. Trump abolishes regulations for all sorts of things and as a result the elite can exploit the environment and their employees much more.
    As Trump isn’t even about stopping the ruinous wars any more … well, why impeach him?

    Just pointing out.

  31. TamingRoman says:

    Well if he is impeached we can look forward to the “good old days” with VP. Pence. Pence will fight against abortion for any reason, undo gay rights, and take us right back to 1950s, so go ahead and enjoy your impeachment parties but I don’t think you guys understand what you are signing up for.

    • robyn says:

      I can’t know for sure but it wouldn’t be surprising that Pence is complicate. He seems to have lied about Flynn. I guess then it’s Paul Ryan.

    • Jordan says:

      That’s exactly what I’ve been saying since Trump was elected. Everyone that called for impeachment. I don’t see them taking Pence down with Trump. Still, onto Paul Ryan which is still awful. I’ll be watching the news a lot, I know that for a fact. Least with the celebrity in the WH he’s fed his ego. Pence is old school Republican who can’t see the separation of church (his own beliefs) and state.

      • TamingRoman says:

        Trump is an idiot who can’t get out of his own way, thusly can’t pass shit. Pence on the other hand is politically smooth, extremely well liked by the right and some of the left and could actually get things done. I’m always baffled about people who think taking out Trump will somehow make things better. Nonono!!!! I’m also surprised of the amount of people who think if they take out Drump, Obama, Hillary, Bernie will somehow take office. Every day on twitter there are hundreds of people who really believe that shit. I say run the clock out of this asshole and pray that his military leaders have the sense to shut him down at every turn.

      • cr says:

        I’m not sure Pence is that well liked. He’s also not out of the woods in terms of the investigation. And it’s not as if the things we worry about Pence enacting aren’t already being enacted.

      • Esmom says:

        I have to respectfully disagree about Pence being liked by the right and some of the left. My impression is that not many like Pence at all except for the far right Evangelical Christians and maybe some of the tea party faction. He’s not a great or smooth politician. I think he just appears to be because Trump is such a hot mess.

  32. Ozogirl says:

    I don’t believe any of this TBH. We are stuck with him. He still has too many supporters. I’m not getting my hopes up. We are still doomed regardless since Pence is a POS too.

  33. Neelyo says:

    The rats are fleeing the Titanic.

    Looks like Trump’s Fairy Godfather sees the writing on the wall:

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/robert-mercer-quits-hedge-fund-sells-breitbart-stake.html

  34. Jordan says:

    So Pence becomes President if he’s impeached. ouuh boy. 🙊🙈🙉😩

  35. Lisa says:

    I hate slapping a diagnosis on someone from a distance, but surely this man-child is a sociopath.

  36. Shelley says:

    Trump will always have his base. No matter what. The sick racist f—s, whose hatred of minorities is so intense, they will stick by Trump no matter what. And what if Trump is impeached? We will have religious nut Pence.

    I try to think positively, but I can’t. My husband keeps reassuring me there are more people who believe as we do than the deplorables, but I’m not so sure.

  37. Jag says:

    I truly hate Trump, but I’m very concerned about what happens if Pence becomes President. Some of the things that Pence has said against the LGBTQ community are horrendous. The problem is that those who are racist and support Trump – and have been acting out – will then be emboldened to act out on even more people.

  38. Why? says:

    I wish the press would stop being so complicit. This isn’t the first time that the Dotard went to Maggie and Peter. He call Maggie and Peter when he did that exclusive interview trashing Comey, Mueller, Rosenstein, and Sessions. How many times has the Dotard called the NYT “the failing NYT” and then he calls them(Maggie and Peter Baker) to give them an exclusive interview? He calls WP fake news, but he has Bob Costa’s personal phone number and stationed in the WH. This could be a great peace about the Dotard’s hypocrisy.

    It seems like the WH is really looking for ways to deflect and distract. There latest target is Donna B. The bots are going crazy posting about her.

    • magnoliarose says:

      You have been on top of this and called Kelly out a long time ago. The press has been a disappointment, and you are right they are complicit.

  39. Alexandria says:

    Why is the GOP obsessed with HRC? I swear the Dotard’s/Paul Ryan’s/Goblins’/Fox anchor’s dying words would be…..’But Hillary…’ and then they drop dead. And then when they reach hell, they will still continue ‘But Hillary!’.

  40. rational plan says:

    To all those Americans I met in London in the months before the Election who assured me that he’d never be elected! Ha! Don’t go counting your chickens! The sad Toxic malaise that is American conservatism. I can’t understand their descent into hate filled madness. The worst if that it’s either empty ploy they don’t believe in just to get the votes, yet the old moderate have been driven out or silenced by theit radical base. The fools have been captured by their own activists rather than their voters.

    I’m a British Liberal Conservative but American conservative politics seems so alien and makes me shudder. They should resign from public office for having traduced their democracy and the standards of the republic. To think this is America today, not the overly serious polite young thinkers I thought I knew, but this mud filled wrestling match. Not that Britain has been free from the hysteria recently but I think the vote has popped the balloon and in a few years time as everyone gets on with the vote result things will return to normal,

    Hopefully the malaise is the reaction to economic crash and we work through it and back to normality,

  41. April says:

    Last week on the news it said he had an overall 38% approval rating, and the approval rating for those who voted for him was 81%. Crazy how they still support him.

  42. Why? says:

    The Dotard’s twitter account disappeared for about 5 to 10 minutes. Everyone on twitter rejoiced. The first thing I thought was that the Dotard and WH were scrubbing the Dotard’s twitter account and deleting tweets. We learned that George P did the same thing, he deleted his FB account because it had references to Russia and then he replaced it with a new account, free of Russian posts. Mueller and his people were able to retrieve his deleted account. The WH claims that the Dotard’s account disappearance was an error caused by an aide. I still don’t understand why twitter won’t ban the Dotard. Isn’t twitter against bullying, but the Dotard is allowed to bully people every minute. Why is the Dotard the only predator who isn’t being held accountable for groping and harassing women?

  43. Why? says:

    It’s nice to see that people are not letting John K off the hook. Yesterday, Lawrence did a segment about how no one should be giving John K the benefit of the doubt because he purposely went to that podium to tarnish FW reputation. Today, another person called John out on his bad behavior and how irresponsible he is using and should be held accountable.

  44. Bread and Circuses says:

    MAGA!

    (…stands for “Men Are Getting Arrested”. Bring popcorn.)

  45. Curiosity says:

    An interesting question is: how will gossip sites do when the above should be turned into law.

    Make no mistake: these are attempts to create censorship: wether it will be enshrined in law or wether social media companies like facebook and twitter will be pushed to censor statements is yet to be seen. Aditionally there are attempts to make the public like the idea of censorship by pointing out (alleged) (mis)information attacks from Russia and the like.