Prince Harry abandoned Meghan… to play with rhinos in Botswana for a few days

Meghan Markle and Prince Harry visit Cardiff

Mark your calendars! Next Thursday – February 1st – Meghan Markle and Prince Harry will walk their first red carpet together. They will attend the Endeavour Fund Awards, which “celebrate the achievements of wounded, injured and sick servicemen and women who have taken part in remarkable sporting and adventure challenges.” While I would love to see even more of Meghan and Harry before their wedding, I have to say that I’m impressed with how many events they’ve already done as a couple since announcing their engagement. And I can’t wait to see what Meghan chooses for an evening event. She’s already shown a willingness to wear an updo for day events, so now I want her to really bring the glam, head to toe, for this.

Meanwhile, it seems that Harry has ABANDONED his fiancee! I’m sure that’s how the Daily Mail has reported it. Harry apparently flew to Botswana this week without Meghan. Did he leave her at Nottingham Cottage or what?

Prince Harry is ready to experience another adventure in Africa. E! News has learned the royal family member is in Botswana to do some important work for animals in need.

“Prince Harry is in Africa for a private working trip, focused on organizations working in conservation across the region and learning more about the issues affecting wildlife in the region,” a Kensington Palace source shared with us. “Prince Harry holds official associations with two conservation charities in Africa, as Patron of Rhino Conservation Botswana and President of African Parks.”

Earlier this month, Rhino Conservation Botswana did in fact announce that Prince Harry would become a Patron of RCB. With this role, Prince Harry will help raise awareness of the plight of Africa’s black and white rhinos and inspire positive action.

“The rhino is one of Africa’s most iconic species. This is a black rhino, an animal that deserves the utmost respect, so to be able to be sitting next to her is incredibly special,” the prince shared in a short film during his last visit. “The black rhino has been reintroduced into Botswana and its numbers are increasing here, while numbers are decreasing elsewhere. If we can’t save these animals, what can we save?”

[From E! News]

The emphasis is on “short trip” so I guess it is/was just a few days. It would be sort of cool if he did leave Meghan in London to sort of have some time to herself, to adjust and just have some quiet time and maybe deal with some wedding planning. We still have zero clue about her wedding dress, so it’s possible she’s got fittings and stuff too.

And finally, the Daily Mail had an interesting piece about what Harry and Meghan’s Scottish titles could be. When Meghan and Harry marry – and I mean on their actual wedding day, most likely – the Queen will bestow new titles on Meghan and Harry. Many believe the titles will be the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (Meg Sussex!!), but those titles would only be used in England and Wales. If and when they travel to Scotland, they would have another set of titles, just as William and Kate have (Earl and Countess of Strathearn). The DM says that there are two big possibilities: Earl and Countess of Ross – which comes with a treasonous, unfortunate history – or the Earl and Countess of Dumbarton, which doesn’t really have the sing-songy quality I was hoping for.

Prince Harry and fiancee Meghan Markle during a visit to Cardiff Castle as part of their royal duties

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle visit Cardiff Castle

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  1. Becks says:

    Oh I am excited to see her on the red carpet!!

    I don’t like Duchess of Sussex. It rhymes too much for my tastes lol.

    • MostlyMegan says:

      “Duchess of Sussex” sounds like the beginning of a limerick:
      There once was a Duchess of Sussex…

      • Who ARE these people? says:

        And a dirty limerick at that

      • minx says:

        My first thought.

      • NotSoSocialButterfly says:


      • Bellagio DuPont says:

        @ Mostly Meghan:

        There once was a duchess of Sussex,
        Who caught her Prince with a love hex,
        She had so many tricks,
        She outwitted the poor d*ck
        And now she swims in big, fat cheques


      • Mumzy says:

        WHERE IS SIXER???
        This limerick challenge, if nothing else, will surely summons her from wherever she has been.

        Seriously, anyone know where she has been? I’ve missed reading her posts.

      • Princessk says:

        Good one Bellagio…lol!😂…..more limericks please.

        And please we do not want Duchess of Sussex. The most likely ones touted in the media are usually wrong anyway. I want Duchess of Clarence, sounds so much more classy.

      • Liberty says:

        There once was a Countess of Sussex
        Who starred in Canadian fun flicks
        Til one roast chicken day
        A prince swept her away
        Giving naysayers a boot
        In their coccyx

      • magnoliarose says:

        I knew Liberty would take the bait! Yay! I love your comedic writing.
        Well done Bellagio.
        I got nothing.

        There is too much sSSS. Like an evil snake taunt.

      • Bellagio DuPont says:

        @ magnolia:

        Hmmmm……lol…..if I’d known Liberty would present something, i’d have quietly and humbly sat in my troll cave! 😁😁😁

      • Liberty says:

        Lol Bellagio, your limerick is fantastic and you know it. No humbly about it, girl, 🙂 you stepped up and threw down! and got it going. I thought more would be jumping in once you opened the game — Come on, people! Where is Sixer?

        @magnoliarose – thank you, mutual admiration society, I love your comments. Now give Bellagio DuPont YOUR limerick, lift us up out of the ssspit.

      • Bellagio DuPont says:

        @ Liberty

        I will humbly accept the compliments of a clear Superior, give a deep Japanese bow (no eye contact), and retreat, to go and quietly savour the moment.

      • Liberty says:

        lol Bellagio. And I will clap my ultra super superior hands twice and order my minions to haul the downcast but clearly talented faux geisha, with her painted-on side eye and humble-style tear streak, to the writing room with the best inks and iPads and martinis to continue her limerick endeavors. Subject: Ross or Dumbarton.

      • Sojaschnitzel says:

        Mumzy: I have not seen her in ages. I hope she’s fine 🙁

      • Bellagio DuPont says:

        @ Liberty:

        That was a tough one……the poor geisha got distracted by all those lovely martinis and was found half passed out, under a cherry blossom tree muttering about impossible challenges and the unrealistic expectations of certain superiors😬😬.

        Anyhoo, I dare not ignore such a direct instruction, so here goes:

        The Queen wondered; “Dumbarton or Ross?”
        To make the ginger one sound like a boss?

        Clarence was bad luck
        The Sussex jokes would suck

        Truth known, she just could not give a toss

      • Liberty says:

        Bellagio, I bow before thee. Perfection. 🙂

        “…to make the ginger one sound like a boss” is everything. (Gloved hands making muffled but very enthusiastic thwamping applause sounds)

    • Princessk says:

      There was a young Duchess of Sussex
      With beauty on par with the classics
      Her Prince who likes suits
      Is trying to grow ginger roots
      And they both like a tent in the tropics

    • magnoliarose says:

      *cracks knuckles and proceeds to do pre-exercise leg stretches*

      Meg will soon be the Duchess of Sussex
      Her love for her prince could fill buckets
      They soon will be wed
      If they ever leave bed
      She’s so lucky he’s got millions of duckets

      Should we call them Dumbarton or Ross
      It is up the Queen who’s the boss
      To Scotland they’ll go
      And put on a show
      Meg’s gain is her haters’ loss

      You guys are gooood at this.

      • Princessk says:

        Game on!… magnoliarose 😄

        There was a young Duchess of Sussex
        Well read with plenty of ethics
        A big oaf named Trump
        Has been given the bump
        Which now brightens the wedding logistics!

      • Liberty says:

        Magnoliarose and PrincessK —– i am dying. Oh god, amazing!!!! Extra points for duckets and logistics!

        I hope Mostly Megan is monitoring this literary flow! 🙂

      • Liberty says:


        Whilst meeting the Duchess of Sussex
        A fond mum tried to add to her chuff mix
        “Ay’ve a son dontcha know
        Kingly beard, marshmallow —
        ‘Ave yer stylist share ‘is cottage
        Up Ipswich!”

      • Bellagio DuPont says:

        Bravo ladies….. Magnoliarose, well done for the dirty little twist, I enjoyed that……..and Princess K, genius Trump shade 😀😀😀

        And the Liberty has to take it to the nextest, unattainable level! (Just out of interest Liberty, do you write professionally?) 🧐🤔

  2. V4Real says:

    He went somewhere without her, that means he abondon her.

    • Don't kill me I am French says:

      I abandons every day my husband and our daughter with this logic

      • Renee says:

        I think that V4Real was joking…but I do think its funny that you abandon your husband and daughter every day 😉

    • Olenna says:

      I don’t care where he went. Just look at him! Got his hands on Meghan again like he’s some child ‘fraid he’s gonna get lost in the crowd and end up with his picture on a milk carton. Clingy git. It’s unseemly. He should just stahp! [cue the Meghan haters, LOL!]

      • SlightlyAnonny says:

        How dare he touch her in public!! It’s so unroyal!! Is she unable to walk because she’s four months pregnant from blackmail sex and secretly forcing him to marry her!! That beast!! I’m getting vibes!! Tons of vibes!! All that touching makes it look like they like each other!! Gross!

      • Susannah says:

        No, Meghan forced Harry’s hand on her shoulder he couldn’t take it away because cameras were there but as soon as the cameras were gone, he threw it off like a dirty rag. Actually, I think someone might have said that on Tumblr now that I think about it!

      • Merritt says:


        So in other words that story isn’t true.

      • SlightlyAnonny says:

        @Susannah. And I probably know who. For a hot minute I would read the tumblr crazies for a chuckle but those ladies are actually crazy. Like reading them made me back through a hedge like Homer Simpson crazy.

      • magnoliarose says:

        She hypnotizes him before every outing and when she says Hallo Blokey Blimey Cheerio he touches her against his will.

      • Liberty says:

        @magnoliarose – I am sitting in a cute place waiting for friends to arrive and just saw this comment and burst out laughing and got a look from the waiter. Oh no.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Heh heh heh
        Revenge has been mine!
        I did that once at an airport over one of your memo comments and I swear airport security was alerted and quietly lurked until I was safely on the plane and was no longer a danger to the public.

    • Princessk says:

      Well Meghan ‘abandoned’ Harry a while back to go on a trip to LA. 😊

  3. LAK says:

    Both SusSEX and DUMBarton have unfortunate meme worthy associations. I hope they are skipped. The jokes would be endless given his ‘party prince’ and ‘dumb’ image.

    • Lahdidahbaby says:

      I had similar thoughts. Dumbarton is especially cringeworhy. I can see it as a schoolyard epithet: “Get lost, ye dumbarton, get yr arse outta the way or we’ll pants ye before ye can say Sussex.”

    • KiddV says:

      Dumbarton is a major bridge (as in a lot of traffic going across, not necessarily by size) in California, so it’s not THAT bad to me. I like it better than Earl of Ross (discount department store) .

      Who do we see about getting better choices? 😉

      • ABC says:

        As a Scot who has lived in both Dumbarton (it has a major bridge nearby, the Erskine Bridge which is a main artery into Glasgow) and Ross-Shire (no town or village of ‘Ross’ of significant size other than Dingwall and Ullapool) this news is very interesting. For visiting potential, hmm. Dunbarton is ok, not too far from Glasgow and Loch Lomond but in itself not particularly scenic. It has an amazing history but these days is mainly a commuter town. My mum is from Dunbarton!
        Ross-Shire is geographically huge, divided into Easter Ross (more built up) and Wester Ross (more scenic and remote). Most people work in Inverness which is the nearest city and airport. I’d love the Ross connection personally as we are pretty much ignored by the UK up here and a visit by them would be amazing. Plus Harry would have to support the mighty Ross County Football Club and that would be awesome (for him)! 👍🏼

      • TiaMaria says:

        Hi ABC, fellow Scot here! I would also go with Ross, so much nicer. Dumbarton is not exactly picturesque!! And as you point out, it would be great support for the mighty Ross County!!!

      • Cat says:

        I went to school in Dumbarton and live in Balloch (very nearby). I agree that Dumbarton isn’t particularly picturesque but it does have a castle that Mary Queen of Scots stayed in, and Dumbarton does have a lot of history. I didn’t even realise that there was a title associated with it. I’d love them to get this title in the hope they will come here to visit and I can see Meghan IRL!

    • Sharon Lea says:

      Totally agree, they should think about the headlines and comments that can be made, just like how the Duke & Duchess of York was switched to Pork! Earl of Ross seems rather lovely with a nod to Ross Poldark 🙂

      • magnoliarose says:

        I love Poldark so Ok. I like it.
        I actually like the old BBC version. I love old BBC shows, dated as they are the acting is always so good and like being at the theatre.

  4. Nicole says:

    I read this and was like…ok? Like stop it daily fail.
    Anywho I hope she glams it up. Honestly the engagement dress would’ve been more appropriate for a red carpet. Can’t say if I would love an updo or not cause we don’t know the dress. But I’m excited to see what she wears.
    Idk and I kinda hope Meghan is playing with the royal kiddos and relaxing. Just having some casual bonding time with the family without all the eyes on her.

    • Enough Already says:

      I think her style is great – urban chic that is accessible with just the right touch of %goals but at the same time I think Meghan has decided to bring the soccer mom realness to the role. I think she will play it safe like Sophie and not outshine anyone. For state dinners and formal engagements I think she will allow herself to splurge on more glam looks.

      • Nicole says:

        got it. makes sense state dinners are quite glam as well. i like her style it hasnt completely hit home run but its a vibe i like. she does colors and styles that match some of what i gravitate towards

  5. Elisabeth says:

    Something was up with the way the palace reported his trip. It was in the court circular on Tuesday and then deleted, then added to Thursday as an addendum to Monday and then deleted, and then finally added back yesterday. The Royal reporters I follow on Twitter are all sniffing around because KP was being really cagey about whether he was working or on a private trip. Richard Palmer compared it to Andrew!

    • amy says:

      Richard Palmer has had it out for Harry and Meg since the relationship was announced. I believe he was the reporter paid by the Bonas family in cressida’s bid to marry harry. I think he cant get over the fact that his girl lost. lol
      I take his reporting of harry and meghan with a grain of bitter salt

      • Lorelai says:

        @Amy: in the UK, private citizens can pay reporters for favorable coverage?

      • magnoliarose says:

        They create favorable relationships so certain reporters can get exclusives. He is a hack.

      • CynicalCeleste says:

        Disagree. I think RP is jaded and tired of the pretense of a free press when it comes to the BRF. we know so little of what actually happens. this is someone whose job it is to follow their schedules and know what’s happening. So if he reports the smell of smoke, there is most likely fire.

      • Tina says:

        Agreed, CC. The Queen kills stories stone dead when she wants to, like Andrew’s links to Jeffrey Epstein.

      • amy says:

        Funny he only smells smoke when it comes to hazza and is very happy to brownose the keens

      • amy says:

        If you look at RP’s 2 last tweets it goes from ” How dare they add Hazza’s trips to visit his charities to CC” to ” Here is a link to an article showing how the Keens just showing their faces in another country is soft power.”
        RP is a hack.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Charles had a hack who did the same thing. Again, make Harry look bad, so lazy Billy B Normal can look good because he is the heir. In Charles’ case, he IS better than Andrew, but they had to make Andrew look good because his horrible behavior is truly despicable. So they had to bring him up to baseline.

        Harry is used to it. It has been the MO his whole life. He has to be made to look worse, or it would cause a lot of problems, and they are only there because of the largesse of the public. Already he was a better athlete, more outgoing, had more friends, became better looking, more charming, etc. They will never count all his work days, and even though he did work on his own for veterans and started his own organizations, it is downplayed. When he became popular, then they sent him on outings with Billy to get more crowds and bolster his brother’s image. Many of the partying stories were exaggerated when Billy’s were minimized in the extreme. His constant cheating wasn’t reported, and the list goes on.
        Harry goes on a vacation and the outrage! Bill and Kate, sneak away more often by private planes but it isn’t reported.
        On the other hand, here very often, the Kate fans compare Meghan’s work hours and Harry’s but in the next breath talk about how special K and W are because they are the future heads of state. They expect less of them and excuse their laziness and entitlement even though the lion’s share of taxpayer’s money goes to them and the coattail riding Middletons. Imagine if Meghan’s mother behaved as they do? Imagine she was given millions to renovate her house?
        They should be held to a much higher standard. They should be compared to Charles and Camilla, not Harry and Meghan but then they look terrible next to them, so it is more manageable to compare them to the PR maligned Harry even though he is a better Ambassador for the BRF. It isn’t his job to hold up his brother totally, at least not to this degree but he does.

        This guy is a hack with an agenda. He pushes that narrative when it is obvious it isn’t true. He counts of all the years of tossing Harry under the bus to make it seem authentic.

        Where is Billy right now? What is he up to? Seems diversionary. Every time Harry is maligned take a look at Billy, usually, that is where the real fire is.

    • Sharon Lea says:

      Interesting Elizabeth. I noticed the DM has this article as ‘not accepting comments’. That’s a bit curious too.

    • Addie says:

      Hmm. Wonder if Harry’s gone off hunting somewhere and the Botswana private trip is just a ruse. After all, he missed the Boxing Day shoot so might be getting antsy.

      • amy says:

        Richard Palmer reported in the rest of his thread that the trips were funded by the two charities and that media had no interest unless meghan was going. Seems to me harry and meghan better be careful the kniives are out for them

    • Princessk says:

      @Elisabeth….which other royal reporters do you follow please.

      • Elisabeth says:

        I follow Richard, Emily Andrews, Victoria Howard and Arbiter, and the EIC of Majesty Magazine. Plus a couple of photographers and people like Gert’s Royals and Cepe Smith, who tend to just communicate facts without a ton of opinion.

      • Princessk says:

        Thank you.
        Many years ago I went on a royal tour when Dickie Arbiter was press secretary. I also check Gert’s Royals.

    • notasugarhere says:

      It appears it was accidentally posted early, trying to keep the trip quiet until after he returned. No media, the trip paid for by the charities. The royal reporters are just acting out again.

      • Tina says:

        But the Court Circular engagements are meant to reflect engagements with the public. When did Harry engage with the public here?

      • amy says:

        Am sure he met people at the charities or maybe he went and talked to himself the whole time.
        Is your point that engagements abroad don’t count?

      • Tina says:

        No, engagements abroad are fine. I am just annoyed by this trend of classifying closed meetings with charities as “engagements.” William and Kate do it too, to boost their numbers. Princess Anne doesn’t do this.

      • notasugarhere says:

        If HM decides the work he does with conservation is representing her, then it goes in the CC. She gets the final say.

        It wasn’t that it was hidden permanently, but accidentally posted early. Seems mostly due to it being a short trip, no media accommodations, etc. Annoying as all get out, especially since they’re playing games with the CC. The Tim O’Donovan person who puts out the royal engagement totals is the most accurate, which is in danger when he retires.

  6. Talie says:

    The Countess of Ross reminds of Titanic…I think there was a Countess in the movie ( and in real life) called something similar.

    • Maria says:

      I remember. Countess of Rothes or something. Wasn’t she the one who refused to go back and pick up people in the water? Can’t remember now.

  7. Erinn says:

    I mainly clicked on this to see photos of rhinos – so ultimately I’m disappointed.

    If the Mr. left me to go hang out with animals, I’d pretty much attempt to get there as well – commitments be damned! Not saying Meghan should have just followed along – she has her own life, and I get that. But I’d be soooo jealous if my partner was going to get to interact with animals – especially one as cool as rhinos.

    As it is – my plumber husband got to see 3 bengal cats in the span of two weeks recently. And I was mega jealous of him. I’ve converted him into such a cat lover at this point – and he was at least smart enough to ask the owner if he could take a photo to show his wife haha.

    • Adele Dazeem says:

      Omg Erinn I am unhealthily obsessed with bengal cats! I want one soooo bad. That fur, the jumping, the energy, I can’t even. Realistically I probably can’t manage one (I hear they need a lot more attention, especially in the beginning, than regular cats) and with my job, kids, small house, no yard, it probably isn’t in the immediate plans…but I am so jealous of your hubby! I wish you could post pics and do a bengal cat post on celebitchy! It would get more comments and views than the Meghan, Taylor and Drump ones combined!! 🙂

      • Erinn says:

        Ahahah – I wanted one super bad as well. But They seem to be a lot more needy and in need of supervision than other breeds. Absolute stunners – but I’m at work 8ish hours a day M-F and we have a dog that likes to police the cats. She’ll legit bark to us when they’re doing something she doesn’t think is appropriate. So between the two issues I think I’m better off passing for now at least. They’ll be on my list again assuming I get to retire someday haha.

      • magnoliarose says:

        I had one named Greta, and she was my love. I pretty much outfitted our place so she could have lots of places to climb and we had an outdoor cage in the garden for her, and when we had to be out west, she had her own things we had available for her. She used to perch on my shoulder and wrap herself around my neck and just go everywhere with me.
        She would jump in the bath with the kids and be like a kitty nanny. I just loved this cat beyond reason.
        Very energetic but loved to play with the kids. Hide and seek was a favorite and she was leash trained. My husband played with her all the time. She loved to play catch, and we would hide toys for her to discover around the house like a treasure hunt. But we had to cycle toys so she wouldn’t get bored.
        They are more work and very very intelligent, but if you are prepared and understand that you have to keep them stimulated and not leave them alone for long periods, they are just fantastic cats. She would feel loneliness more than most cats and then would do something destructive so I learned not to let that happen. As long as she was near her family, she was fine.
        I miss her and her pal our Persian. 😭

    • Rachel says:

      My friend breeds hairless cats.

      They’re much friendlier than regular cats, but they feel like a chamois. And you don’t want to watch them licking themselves.

      • Erinn says:

        Oh my god, Rachel. I wanted one so bad. But our 18ish year old senior rescue has some heart issues – and I’ve heard Sphynx have a high risk of congenital heart problems that can show up very young. I can’t take the risk because the current cat health issues in my house have been an emotional roller coaster. I had even managed to talk my husband into one – but I’ve decided against it. I am however VERY likely getting a Devon Rex in the future. Same kind of bone structure: giant ears and eyes – but with a bit more hair and less risk of health issue.

    • Anastasia says:

      Just putting this here: adopt, don’t shop! 🙂

      • magnoliarose says:

        Breed rescues are full of cats that need homes. That is where we sometimes adopt along with just our old trusty domestic mixes. We have a Ragdoll who is mostly Ragdoll with a touch of something else that made her coloring weird. She is a floppy baby with a sweet little voice and just a bundle of innocent, pure love. Our kitten, however, is demon spawn.

  8. Merritt says:

    The Queen is highly unlikely to give them the Earldom of Ross title.

    • Lady D says:

      Wikipedia says there hasn’t been an Earl of Ross since 1625. Is it age that makes it unlikely they will receive it, Merritt?

      • Merritt says:

        No it is who the title was previously held by. Harry and the Queen seem to have a good relationship. I don’t think she would give him a title last held by Charles I.

      • LAK says:

        Every title has been seriously problematic or held by problematic title holders.

        There are only 2 titles that are guaranteed NOT to be revived based upon their history and previous holders, Windsor and Cumberland.

      • Merritt says:


        But as problematic as some titles might be, they weren’t held by someone who was executed and led to the monarchy being abolished. But one way or the other, we will find out in May.

      • LAK says:

        As problematic as Charles 1 was, he had supporters willing to fight for him. The objection to Charles wasn’t monarchy, but his ineptitude as a ruler who refused to give up his personal belief in the divine right of Kings and absolute rule.

  9. Lilith says:

    I get the feeling Harry is going to go on a lot of these “mini trips” while married to Meghan.

    • Becks says:

      What does that mean?

      • Lilith says:

        I just get strange vibes from him – like he won’t be true to her. But hey, that’s just me. I hope they make it work.

    • Petty Riperton says:

      He won’t, he is just like his father and brother.
      As much as people like to make his past relationships to be so great and happy he wasn’t faithful to neither one of those women. I doubt he will be faithful to Meghan.

      • IMHO says:

        I admit to ignorance most things royals beyond gossip. Obviously Charles relationship with Camilla was played out in the press, but I have yet to read evidence of William being unfaithful beyond the CB posts stating opinion as fact and the gleeful references to Jecca, which I find really disrespectful to the lady in question (as if she spent the hours before her own wedding just waiting for the chance to cheat one last time).
        I mean, history tells us Charles was a cad. I know most of the regulars here really want William to be cheating on “Kate Middleton” and now I see folks predicting that Harry is the same.
        I don’t get it.

      • Tina says:

        We have no evidence that Harry has cheated or will cheat on Meghan. Whereas we know for a fact that William has been seen talking very intimately with young Australian blondes at ski resorts, leaving Kate and the children at home. Is that proof he cheated? No. Would it make me inclined to believe it? Yes.

    • HoustonGrl says:

      I agree, that’s common among aristocrats anyway. They call it “hunting.”

    • Enough Already says:

      We have lots of evidence of Harry fooling around on Chelsy but I never read as much a a whisper of him cheating on Cressida.

      • HoustonGrl says:

        I think the whole Las Vegas incident happened while they were together.

      • Sharon Lea says:

        He also went to Guy Pelley’s wedding in Memphis, pre-bachelor party in Miami as well, alone. Lots made about Harry not buying her plane ticket and she is a working girl, so low on funds, at the time…

    • magnoliarose says:

      Hahahaha! Ok sure.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I expect these comments to get worse rather than better as the wedding date approaches.

      • magnoliarose says:

        I do too. Strange. It seems only British men inspire this level of loon behavior. Very odd.

  10. milla says:

    He killed animals but now he’s saving them? Makes sense…

    • OriginalLala says:

      right? The hypocrisy is amazing.

      • Jessica says:

        Boars aren’t endangered.

      • milla says:


        It speaks about a character. And we all know how many animals were not endangered just several years ago. Do we have to wait until every animal is about to disappear to see the hypocrisy?

      • Jessica says:


        I’ll have to disagree that hunting an animal that isn’t even remotely endangered shows poor character.

        Do you wear leather, have leather handbags? Most people do and no one bats an eye.

      • amy says:

        Do you consider eating meat bad character? The way animals are raised nowadays…

    • magnoliarose says:

      I loathe hunting, but I will never knock any conservation efforts. It makes no sense, but there is a segment of the hunting community that is environmentalists and conservationists. I guess they find a way to compartmentalize.
      I just like British riding and hunting fashion and riding but the hunting and stalking are too much. Falconry is different because the Falcons are doing what they do in the wild but coursing is just vile.

  11. Cher says:

    I am looking forward to seeing Meghan in a more glammed up setting.

    • Princessk says:

      Me too! They are my favourite couple. I am looking forward to their next outing. The Endeavour Awards are pretty high profile, I can’t remember if its a black tie event or more cocktail so I wonder what look Meghan will go for.

      No matter what she wears she will give this already stellar event a further boost, the photographers will treble in numbers this year, and she will be on every front page the next day.

      • Lorelai says:

        The royal reporters are not too happy that this event is happening when most of them will be out of the country covering William and Kate’s “Mini-tour” next week. It shows that they already know there’s more interest in H&M than the Cambridges.

    • Princessk says:

      Well from previous times Harry has been wearing a tie and not a bow tie, so I think Meghan will opt for a smart cocktail dress, I don’t think we are going to see her really glam up for this event.

      Apart from the engagement photos and the pre Xmas dinner at Buck Palace we have not seen Meghan really dress up, but no rush we have years and years to enjoy her.

  12. Enough Already says:

    But will the Lesotho prince get the bachelor party invite? If not major side-eye from me.

  13. All About Eve says:

    Work trip to Botswana, yeah right! We all know why Harry loves to go to Botswana & it has nothing to do with work. Wasn’t this the same place he invited Meghan to stay with him for a few days last year while the palace told us he was hard at work? Work my ass!

    Harry’s now been to Germany on a hunting trip, Monaco & now Botswana in the space of a month. Poor thing must be exhausted with all that hard work! Well at least there’s a gala to look forward to next week where he can once again play the role of the dutiful & hardworking prince.

    • Sharon Lea says:

      Elton John’s article today about Harry also mention how he met up with him in Sicily last year and he told him he was in love. I don’t remember the public ever hearing about that trip before. He does travel quite a bit…

    • Veronica says:

      Harry has been on so many trips in the last 18 months, he travels more than most heads of state. And this sounds like another fun trip. He must be exhausted. Poor dear. Meghan too. Four events in 2 months, just one trip, and planning a wedding, too!!!! However does she manage?????
      They are not so subtly painting them as jet-setting dilettantes. H and M should sit down with Charles and Camilla or Anne and figure out how to take some of their work so they can fight this storyline that is starting to grow.

      • Addie says:

        I don’t think they care. They are well-insulated by PR – or rather, they think they are. There are no consequences for them for self-indulgence.

      • Masamf says:

        @Veronica, and how many trips have other members of the BRF been to in the last 18 months? Oh is it just Harry, and by extension Meghan, that get your snide remarks? They all have had their share of travelling. Of the 3 younger working royals William, Kate and Harry, Harry did the most engagements in 2017, followed by William and trailed far behind by Kate. Not sure why Meghan is lumped up in this since she is not even a royal yet but wharves.

    • Masamf says:

      Sharon, I don’t know about you but I read quite a bit about it pre Invictus Toronto. Here’s one article:

    • Masamf says:

      @AllaboutEve, Harry does A LOT of animal conservation work not only in Botswana but in other southern Africa countries as well.

  14. Keepitreal says:

    “Excited for the number of events”; I know this is the Meghan fansite, but simmer down a little.

  15. Blaire Carter says:

    she has a great nose job!

    • Merritt says:

      Her nose has been the same since she was a kid.

    • Tourmaline says:

      Look at pictures of her dad–they have the exact same profile

    • Blaire Carter says:

      great nose then!

      • Kelly says:

        At the very least she’s had the tip refined. You only have to google to see before and afters.

    • GreenTurtle says:

      She has had one. It’s very well done, though.

    • Masamf says:

      @Blair Carter, blame it on Meghan’s father who gave her the same exact nose! Many have tried to find some hidden surgeries Meghan has done in the past, the media has gone almost crazy digging, hates are beside themselves because they just can’t find NOTHING that even remotely suggests Meghan has ever had any cosmetic surgery. Its very amusing watching people get their noses bent out of shape because Meghan is marrying Harry, hahaha!!!

      • GreenTurtle says:

        I adore Meghan and really enjoy her and Harry. I just think, based on pictures I’ve seen, that she had a (fairly conservative) nose job. It’s not a character defect and I don’t judge anyone for such things.

      • Masamf says:

        Her nose looks exactly as it looked in pictures when she was still little, unless she had a nose job at around 6years old.

      • GreenTurtle says:

        These are the pics I saw that made me think she had

      • magnoliarose says:

        I think she had a tiny one. Kate has had plastic surgery, and I think Diana did. I don’t have an issue with any of them doing it. One or two discreet balancing procedures I don’t mind, but when someone changes themselves into an entirely different person, I think it becomes a character flaw. A little filler and botox as a person ages to refresh themselves, I don’t mind that either. If it makes someone feel better and more like themselves then hey why not.

      • Masamf says:

        @Greenturtule, we just gonna agree to disagree. Here’s why I believe this is her natural God given nose:

        The pic at almost bottom of the article is identical to the pictures of the “before” that you posted. Also, I wouldn’t compare recent pictures to pictures of her in her teenage years, but if I did, I’d make sure to have the same angle in which pictures were taken. The pictures you posted are different angles which means either of them can be distorted. If you wanna com are, then do so using pictures taken of Meghan facing the camera. I have no problem with people having plastic surgery, but lets not just paint every celebrity with the same broad brush just because.

  16. Veronica says:

    I just started watching The Windsor’s so that Dumb title wouldn’t be smart. 🙂 every time HArry talks about the king v 1 1 1 I die!!
    And really – the number of events!?! Meghan has been seen doing 4 events in 2 months???? Wow. Exhaustion must be setting in. And poor dear Harry, jetting off in another “business” trip, courtesy of the British taxpayers.

    • Tonya says:

      Just a comment…the last time I checked…Meghan is not a royal (yet) so any event(s) she does is on her “time”.

      • Olive says:

        @Tonya yep, these people are in such a rush to slam her they’re not even thinking about the facts. says a lot more about them than it does meghan!

      • Citresse says:

        Diana did a number of events during the engagement. I remember thinking her style was great. I started wearing light coloured nylons with black shoes. There were a number of picture books released between Feb and June 1981. I think Diana looked best when she wore the red outfit during a meet and greet in the village of Tetbury near Highgrove. And Charles was quite affectionate putting his arm around Diana, so it’s not unusual to see Harry and Meghan so affectionate with each other right now. I hope it lasts.

      • Veronica says:

        What does my comment say about me? Interested to hear. And Meghan is living on palace property, which belongs to the public, getting the same protection Harry is getting, paid for by the public, so a few events are a good thing.

      • Addie says:

        Meghan is in the fold and taking advantages of everything on offer to those on the payroll courtesy of the taxpayer so it’s fair to apply the same standards to her at this stage. The only thing missing is the ring. But otherwise there is no difference.

      • Tonya says:

        The BRF is not supported by the taxpayers…that is a myth. Meghan for immigration purposes is a guest. You do know that she is in the process of obtaining “her papers”

      • Tina says:

        The BRF receives £100m+ every year directly from the taxpayer for security alone. And it is true that the rest of their money does not come from “taxpayers,” but it does come from funds belonging to the British people. The income from the Crown Estates not given to the Queen goes straight into the Treasury to be spent by the government.

      • LAK says:

        Tonya: The BRF receives money directly and indirectly from the taxpayers. You need to see beyond the gaslighting PR and pay attention to all the little ways they are funded by us.

      • Tonya says:

        I agree with both Tina & Lak… I would also add that the wealth accumulated by Britain also came from the Commonwealth & the colonies the British “occupied” & ” exploited”…my point was & is that Meghan is not a British citizen & as such she technically is not allowed to work. So to criticize her work ethic (at this time) is unfair.

      • amy says:

        The crown estates belong neither to the british people nor the mornach? I can imagine that the mornach and his ancestors can claim some ownwership of it since they’ve been getting profits from it and the government can also claim ownership since they reap benefit from it. It’s not a clear cut issue and that divorce would be uglier than brexit.

      • Tina says:

        The Crown Estates belong to the Crown. That is a complicated concept, but it essentially boils down to the British people. If the monarchy ended it would be ugly, sure, but the royals’ claim to the Crown Estates and the Duchies is a very dodgy one, legally speaking. We’d have to pay them off. But they don’t get the property, the art or the jewels. Those belong to us, the British people.

      • LAK says:

        Amy: the ownership of the crown estates is clear cut and always has been. The crown estates were created by an act of parliament during Norman times to pay for the instrument of govt. Govt then was defined as parliament, judiciary, army and the head of state household. As the King in Norman times was the head of state, the royal household by default had it’s upkeep paid from the estate. The terms of ownership make it very clear that it is not the personal property of the royal family and never has been. The King has/had their own separate private estate to pay for private expenses eg their wives and children.

        The King had to manage the crown estates to generate revenue to pay for the govt. George 3 couldn’t or wouldn’t, and so he handed management to parliament where it remains today. The exchange was that his expenses as head of state continued to be paid. That’s where the Sovereign grant comes in.

        If we get rid of the royals as heads of state, the Sovereign grant reverts back to treasury or whomever we appoint as our head of state. The royals do not have any rights to claim any compensation for the loss of it. And there is clear cut evidence that they’ve used it for personal expenses as well as state expenses.

        Their PR constantly fudges the issue of ownership as if they magnanimously gave up this income when it is fact that they’ve never owned it. That fudge has created a public understanding that the royals have legal right of ownership to the estates and the duchies and will be compensated should we abolish them. That is categorically not true.

        The Crown estates belong to the public just as the White House in America belongs to the public. The president happens to reside in it during their term, but it isn’t their private property. And so too the crown estates.

      • amy says:

        It isn’t as clear cut because the monarch was the government. There wasn’t a separation as there is now. You cant compare the white house to the crown because the uk had a king and the us has always been a democracy. I don’t think that the role of the monarch as a stakeholder in crown estate can be as easily dismissed as your post suggests.

      • amy says:

        In 1760, George III reached an agreement with the Government over the estate. The Crown Lands would be managed on behalf of the Government (the king is the government at this time) and the surplus revenue would go to the Treasury. In return the King would receive a fixed annual payment – what later became known as the Civil List.
        The end of the monarchy could mean that the 1760 agreement is void consequently the government would no longer receive the income from the crown estates.
        P.S the Irish government still pays the crown even after the good Friday agreement.

    • Keepitreal says:

      LOL! You are going to catch a lot of flack for this comment….in 1,2,3…..

    • loislane says:

      Wow you sure dislike them don’t you? Can’t remember them saying they want to be king/queen but ok. It’s a shame that you speak about humans being this way. I will rather too much optimism and respect than this much bitterness. Pea ce and love sis.

    • Tina says:

      That’s not true. The Duchess of Windsor never became a British citizen, as far as I know, and she used her title straight away. Meghan will be HRH Duchess of Sussex (or whatever) as soon as she marries Harry.

    • LAK says:

      When did they claim they were going to be King and Queen?

      Meghan will become a HRH Duchess the minute she marries him.

    • notasugarhere says:

      He never did say that that I know of LAK. We have Diana’s comments stating he was better suited to the role, her calling him GKH (Good King Henry), and his Time comment last year about how nobody wants to be king. Never seen anything that he was claiming he and Megan were going to be monarchs.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Kate Middleton did a total of four events between the announcement of their engagement and their wedding. As future wife of the soon-to-be 6th in line, why should Meghan Markle be called on to do more at this point?

      • Christine says:

        Nobody says that Kate shouldn’t have done more work, that’s not the point here. And for what I know she gets soooo much grief for not working enough…..wasn’t lazy Katie or dolittle nicknames speak for themselves!

      • notasugarhere says:

        Yes, it is the point. Meghan Markle is marrying the soon-to-be sixth in line to the throne. Why should she be required to do more – prior to even being a member of the family – than the person married to the 2nd in line?

        MM isn’t even married in yet. She’s what, 3 months in to their engagement period? Worked until mid-November, quit her job, closed a household, changed countries, got engaged, etc. etc. etc. If she spends the next 7 years working less than 100 HOURS a year like Kate Middleton, bring on the criticism.

        As it stands, MM has already done more in this period than KM – and MM still has months to go and more engagements scheduled.

      • Christine says:

        Again: You are missing my point. Your reaction to Meghan criticism is deflecting and saying Kate barely raised a finger. I agree that Kate barely left a finger in the engagement period. But I don’t agree Meghan is like this work horse who is exhausting herself with the number of engagements she has done. She works more than Kate did. Is this how we are going to view her work ethic moving forward? There are so many royals in Europe who we can compare her to, why do we choose to limit her by comparing her w Kate only? seems such an odd thing to do…every time someone says something slightly critical of Meghan the response to be like wait….”but Kate…”

      • notasugarhere says:

        Where have I said MM is a workhorse here? I’ve pointed out that Kate Middleton performed four engagements during this same time period in her life, MM has already matched that (the way BRF counts things) and is scheduled to do more. And yet she is getting loads of criticism for not doing enough.

        As she is marrying the 6th in line in the same royal house, it is relevant if she ultimately ends up doing more than the person married to the 2nd in line – once she is married in.

        Again, MM is not official a member of the royal family yet. Nothing she does counts in the CC. None of these will count towards her year-end total because she is not yet a member of the BRF. Once she is, let’s see if she works more than the 100 hours a year Kate Middleton works. Because KM is her colleague in the same royal house, it is logical to compare work totals.

        Comparing between royals families is difficult because each royal house counts things differently. Some release days worked others count each individual event per day. 1-to-1 comparison is easiest and most logical between members of the same royal houses for those reasons.

    • Lorelai says:

      And I side-eye you because Harry never said that.

    • Masamf says:

      And how many engagements did Kate do in the first 3 months of her engagements? And no zero is not a number. And Kate was living in the palace on the British taxpayer’s money, yet there were zero engagements in the first 3 months of her engagements. She was going to marry the future king too, so you would assume she would do more to earn her keep, but did she?

      • Lady D says:

        When did zero lose number status?

      • magnoliarose says:

        You won’t get an answer. lol
        They makeup material all the time but never answer facts. Because they can’t.

      • notasugarhere says:

        iirc the answer is 4. At this point, MM has already done more in this period than KM and she’s only 3 months in. Let’s wait and see what happens in the next couple of years.

      • Masamf says:

        Nota, no thank you sir, that is not accurate. Future queen Kate did 4 engagement in the period from when she was engaged to when she was wed to Billy. However, in the first 3.5 months after her engagement (Oct to mid Feb) she did zilch, nada, zero, none. She did accompany Billy to a concert but that was it. The 4 engagements happened between mid Feb and wedding day April. She even opted out of christmas dinner because she wanted to spend the last christmas, as a single gal, with her family. Meanwhile, a gal that is marrying the 5th soon to be 6th in line has already attended multiple royal dinners, done 3 official engagements going on to 4 and still counting, all in just 2 months. Yet she is getting the most flack for not working even more while future queen Kate continues on her queen of lazies path! Ha!!

      • notasugarhere says:

        I was referring to the total amount Kate Middleton did between the announcement of their engagement and their wedding. I’m agreeing with you – thus far Meghan Markle has done more and she still has several months to go before the wedding.

      • Sam says:

        Thought she’s done 6 so far.2 for each engagements

      • amy says:

        King William the Great avoider of work and Queen Katherine the Lazy. I can see it now.

  17. Elisabeth says:

    I find her charismatic!

  18. CynicalAnn says:

    They are so cute together. That’s all I’ve got.

  19. thecookingpan says:

    We need all the help we can get to save our rhinos😢

  20. Mimi says:

    I wonder if Harry is aware that there are other parts of Africa that could use his attention outside of Botswana or does he believe all the parks and endangered species are located there? Love to see him get outside of East Africa for a change.

    • Princessk says:

      Yes, come to West Africa Harry!

      On a serious note the royals go to places that are considered safe. Another point is that one can sometimes you can spread oneself too thinly, much better to make a strong impact in one place rather than darting here and there just for photo opps.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Madagascar and…lots of cool places. Before I was a vegan, I ate some of the best seafood and had to be wheeled around from eating so much. lol
        There is a seafood stew in Ghana that I take is a common dish that was ridiculous it was so good.
        There is so much to see.
        Are there places anyone would recommend to see?

    • magnoliarose says:

      Botswana is a fantastic place, so I don’t blame him for trying to go there often. It is prosperous and very safe and more advanced as far as conservation and safety. Very lovely countries to travel to in Africa, in my opinion, are Botswana, Namibia, Zambia, Tanzania, Ghana, Ethiopia, and Mozambique. Morrocco is cool too. It is a shame more people don’t go and see things like Victoria Falls or the beaches that are just achingly beautiful. The people are friendly and love to host people for meals and take pride to show the natural beauty of their country. I hear Rwanda is safe to travel to nowadays.
      45’s comments were so wrong and ridiculous and offensive.
      I encourage travelers to go and see that it isn’t a continent of poor downtrodden people but countries that are flourishing and have so much to offer and experience.

      • Lorelai says:

        @MagnoliaRose: I am so jealous of all of your travels!

        I hate that I can’t not think of “Nambia” though 🤦🏻‍♀️

      • GreenTurtle says:

        Rwanda is extremely safe and quite beautiful. 1994 was a long time ago, thankfully. Anyway, it’s lush and hilly with fantastic fruits, veggies, and tea. The biggest tourist draw is gorilla trekking with the silver backs. There is also a nice, smaller game park that now has the big five. Randomly, best Indian food I’ve ever had (including the U.K.).

      • Masamf says:

        Most parts of Rwanda are relatively safe, but there’s still some trouble especially along the Burundi and Congo borders. That said, the tourist attraction sites are all very safe. Rwanda is such a breathtaking country its not even funny, and the Rwandan people are awesome too, I strongly recommend it. If you ever want to travel elsewhere, Uganda is a safe enough place too for tourism purposes. And there are lots of beautiful and cool stuff to see there too. I want to retire and start a tourism agency where I take people around to see all the cool places in Uganda and Rwanda. Oh, oh, oh, be still my little Ugandan heart! 🙂 🙂

      • GreenTurtle says:

        Yes, certainly I wouldn’t recommend hiking around much of the Kivus on your own. Burundi is beautiful, too. It’s unfortunate there’s so much instability these last several years. Burundians are so friendly and upbeat despite the horrors they’ve experienced. They deserve better.

      • magnoliarose says:

        @Lorelai The best advice I can give someone is just go. Once the bug bites, you can’t stop. The biggest expense is the plane ticket. Once in Africa, many places in Asia, South America or Eastern Europe daily expenses are very reasonable. Research and if you access expat forums or know any or locals from the country they can tell you the lowdown. Not only will you save money but you will get to see the real place and not tourist sanitized mediocrity.

        When I was 8 or 9, I went through a phase(one of many) where I wanted to be an archaeologist. So perhaps it has always been somewhere in my mind to travel to “exotic” places. I traveled for work a lot, one of the short list of things I liked about my job and it made me used to the idea that the world is vast but more accessible than it seems. I just decided to do it in my spare time and never stopped. It puts materialism in perspective. You can’t buy seeing a family of gorillas or an experience with a baby elephant that hugs and cuddles or seeing waterfalls that make you want to weep or breathing air so fresh it almost makes you feel giddy. I have met so many interesting people that I have loved spending time with even if only for a brief time and a few that became real friends.
        My job involved(s) such a superficial, artificial world and is profoundly intellectually unsatisfying. Without traveling on my own, I think I would have become depressed. It isn’t uncommon for that job. You have to build a real life of substance and create a wall between the two worlds or else you can become disconnected. I look an image of myself, and it is me but not me and then all the critical voices pick “me” apart. I learned to put it in a compartment and then go live a life and protect that life and keep it extremely private.

        I think this sentiment (about the need to travel) can be true for almost anyone who longs to see the world. For a SAHM or a person with a stressful job or someone who has gone through a painful experience or someone stuck in a rut, a travel adventure can be a much-needed reset.
        Going abroad made everything else seem like background noise and brought my life into focus, and made me less likely to bother with things that gave me anxiety. I have my closest friends, a few from the same industry and we have the same attitude about it, so they were my main travel companions before I married. We still go places together, but our lives have changed, so it isn’t as frequent or as easy anymore.
        Luxury travel is nice but there are many very nice places to stay that are small local gems that are much much better.

        Rwanda sounds lovely. I must go. There is a little girl in my son’s class who is Indian Ugandan and her grandmother made lunch for the kids. OMG! It was delicious. Uganda is on the new list too. Sigh. I need to go!!!

    • Masamf says:

      Mimi, Botswana is not in East Africa, its in southern Africa. And Harry does animal conservation work not only in Botswana but also in the Republic of South Africa, Malawi and elsewhere. One person can’t be expected to save the entire world now, can he?

  21. Anastasia says:

    I have read here and there for years that royal men routinely cheat on their wives, and it’s such a normal thing that it’s almost expected. Like royal men who DON’T cheat have always been the exception, not the rule.

    It just grosses me out so so so much. So if you marry a royal (in the British RF, anyway), you can just EXPECT your husband to pork other women? I can’t get over that. I can’t imagine marrying my husband knowing he will eventually cheat on me. It makes me feel badly for Meghan.

    • Mimi says:

      Is this the new party line from the concerned for Meghan brigade?

      If it happens, she won’t be the first or the last to deal with it. I am sure she will find a way to cope as she seems to be a survivor. Meghan can easily find someone who’s hotter, richer, smarter and less burdensome than Harry. I can’t say the same for him and he acts like he knows it.

      • Keepitreal says:

        Wow, just wow. It amazes me how folks are so into this like they personally know this couple, like intimately know them.

      • magnoliarose says:

        Yes, it is the latest faux concern of the disgruntled would be Mrs. Harry Brigade. Every little story.
        They change names, but the tone is the same. *eye roll*

    • Veronica says:

      Mimi, so it would be OK with Meghan, you think, if Harry cheats on her?? She will have given up her entire existence to marry a man who cheats?? I doubt she would be OK with that.

      And MagnoliaRose, royal men don’t cheat on their spouses? I always heard that they did. Good to know that they don’t as a rule.

      • Mimi says:

        Relationships are complex and what may be a dealbreaker for one person may not necessarily be so for another. I have no idea what that breaking point is for Meghan, none of us do, but Meghan is neither young nor idealistic and she’s been in other relationships that didn’t work out for whatever reason. She has had plenty of time to think about what she’s getting into with Harry and this is her choice. I don’t know any women her age who aren’t aware that there is a possibility that their mate will stray. I’m sure she has friends who have been cheated on. Any marriage at any time can face infidelity. I don’t understand why she needs to be held to a higher standard than anyone else. If it’s understood and accepted that Harry will likely cheat–and no one here can say for certain he will, though I don’t doubt it’s likely– shame on him. In any case, I’m not sure why Meghan should be seen lacking and the one held accountable for the royals’ history of being unfaithful to their spouses.

      • magnoliarose says:

        No, not always and I have no idea what the future holds for them. Usually, that was because the marriages weren’t based on love but dynasty building and politics.
        Cheating is only cheating if it is against the rules and agreement of the marriage. King George III was known to be a family man, and so far I have never read he had a mistress. He was in love with Charlotte. Queen Victoria. Czar Nicholas and there are others.
        Close to royalty but not royal the 1st or 2nd Duke of Richmond was loyal to his wife and had quite a love story. He was married young against his will to a young wife who went back to the schoolroom, and he went on his Grand Tour. One night at the opera he asked a friend who is that beautiful woman in the other box? His friend replied, “It is your wife.” This was during George the 2nd’s reign.
        Harry and Meghan are in love. If he had been married twice before and cheated then sure the likelihood is there, but that is not the case.
        I don’t wish bad marriages on anyone. I always hope it is happy and works out.

    • Addie says:

      The wives do much the same too, so they’re not going to be without their own rumpy-pumpy. It’s all about appearances: give the illusion of a stable and happy marriage, a couple of kids in the mix, then do what you like after that as long as the taxpayer money keeps rolling in. I’d say that Andrew and Fergie were the indiscreet version of what really plays out. Ugly, but true.

    • IMHO says:

      This is just gross.

      Then again I have read the WK posts for years and it was celebrated, repeated, cackled about and repeated as fact. Equally as gross. Perhaps now we can admit it.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Never heard anything of Andrew cheating on Sarah; it was widely believed to be the other way around. No whiff of cheating in the Edward/Sophie marriage either. So no, I wouldn’t say, “All BRF men cheat”.

      • amy says:

        Andrew has too many pedophile friends. not just Epstein but also father Keith Gleeds Canada. Andrew’s story that has been covered up so lets not use him as a beacon of morality in BRF.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I would never use him as a beacon of morality. Merely pointing out that during the 5 years of their marriage, there weren’t rumors of Andrew cheating. Whatever he has done since, plenty of which I am sure is horrible, wasn’t him cheating on his wife as he was no longer married.

      • Christine says:

        Notasugar: yeah I’m sure he started doing horrible things, as you said, only after his marriage, cause that’s how people like him act. One day they just start doing horrible things. nobody really knows if he cheated or not on his wife. But given his actions……I agree with Amy, not the greatest example to bring to the table!

      • notasugarhere says:

        Given how both Fergie and Andrew imploded around that marriage, I do doubt he was being horrible that early on. It was as if after that marriage and the increased coddling from HM that followed, he felt like he had free reign to do whatever. Fergie still living with him at Royal Lodge made for great cover.

        No whiff of him cheating on Fergie during those 5 years, only of her. And no rumors around Edward and Sophie.

      • amy says:

        Andrew spend less than 3 months a year with fergie in those 5yrs. Lets not re write history. Fergie and Andrew had more of a marriage of convenience like they do now.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Andrew was a deployed member of the Navy during the first few years. It wasn’t that he was away from Fergie catting around – he was serving his country as many others do. Are you insinuating every deployed member of the military is unfaithful?

        I think they both went off the rails after the forced divorced. If they’d stayed together and been given a strict work plan, many things would be different.

      • amy says:

        Am insinuating that Andrew was not a saint and given Fergie’s actions there is more there than meets the eye.

  22. hmmm says:

    I’m beginning to wonder about Harry’s “private” engagements. of which there seem multitudes. Unlike the engagements for the Court Circular they are not officially announced or described. In other words, they could be anything, without any accountability. And no photos.

    • amy says:

      Me too. I need Harry to give us an account of what he’s doing from the moment he wakes up to when he goes to sleep. Maybe he goes to the pub and a person buys him a drink. Are this drinks he’s getting officially announced or described when they announce palace gifts. In other words, he could be doing anything, without accountability. And no photos. I need video footage big brother style.

      • Micki says:

        See it this way: What can you get if you pair the annual official engagements (Court Circular) with the median salary UK (26,500) readjusted for RF let say 10-fold? And fund RF only for their Court Circular appointments?

      • Veronica says:

        Straw man argument. No one is saying that Harry needs to account for every hour of his day. However, if he is going to a different continent, at taxpayers’ expense, then, YES, there should be accountability.
        And even if he pays the airfare himself or the fuel and airplane costs, and the hotel or glamping costs, the taxpayer still pays for the security. And he is soon to be 6th in line for the throne. If he keeps up the jetset lifestyle that he has been living the past year, the taxpayers are going to get weary of this, and start demanding he pay for things himself, just like Beatrice and Eugenie have to do now.

      • Masamf says:

        I have to LOL at some of the comments on here!! “Harry has to do this or else”..or else what exactly? NOTHING will happen if he doesn’t account for every waking moment of his life. And Harry is not going to account for anything, anyone holding their baited breath waiting for accountability or demanding Harry accountability because “taxpayer’s money” just needs to take a chill pill and go lay down, it ain’t gonna happen, and nothing will happen to the 6th in line…..period

    • Addie says:

      Princess Madeleine of Sweden lives in London with her husband but when she returns to her homeland to do an engagement she is paid on a per diem basis. This sounds like a good way to go for the BRF too – everyone but the monarch who is full-time. Their ‘work’ is not really needed: it fills some of their time and makes them visible. But it comes at huge cost to local councils for security, organisations hosting who have to go to so much trouble. There is no reason to fund the BRF to perform charity. Just fund them for constitutional duties, put a cap on other things so that all but the monarch and heir HAVE to get real jobs. I think this happens with the Netherlands RF and is a much saner way to avoid all the hangers-on aka extended family having such useless lives.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Latest word is the trip is being paid by the charities, for work that will be considered official engagement and put in the CC. Seems a good compromise.

  23. Kelly says:

    Why does Harry always look like he’s about to recite the Pledge of Allegiance?

  24. Guest says:

    Lol some of these comments.

    • amy says:

      They are grieving the fact that their internet boyfriend has an age appropriate, intelligent woman, happened to sophie cumberbatch. They will settle down in a few years.

      • LeeLee says:

        Lol I’m living for these comments, bitter doesn’t even describe it. I think Veronica is Meghan’s number one Stan.