Marilyn Manson on Evan Rachel Wood: ‘fantasies… about smashing her skull in’

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Shock rocker Marilyn Manson has a new very long interview with Spin. They reveal that they chatted on the phone with the 39 year-old musician for two hours, and you can tell. It’s hard to tell where fantasy ends and reality begins for Manson. Even if he’s putting us on with most of this, and/or it’s the drugs talking, he still seems to be one messed up guy who is alternately fighting and embracing his demons. Manson talks about making concept art with used condoms, doing drugs and self-harming in the wake of his break up with Evan Rachel Wood, 21. He also claims that he thinks about “smashing her skull in with a sledgehammer” every day. He is promoting his new album High End of Low and nothing earns headlines like pure crazy:

On his condom concept art
Good…. I was going to email you a photograph I just took. It’s of a new piece of modern art I created. Let’s call this work my Jack-off Pollack, of sorts. I had two condoms — alien things to me, I haven’t seen them in 25 years — and I threw them on the mirror, and they stuck, and they formed this piece of modern art. And I can’t decide what to call it. I’m thinking about calling it “I Don’t Want You to be Cursed With My Retarded Child,” or “It’s Not Just Love, It’s a Lifestyle,” because they were Lifestyle condoms.

On wanting to kill Evan Rachel Wood
My lowest point was Christmas Day 2008, because I didn’t speak to my family. My walls were covered in scrawlings of the lyrics and cocaine bags nailed to the wall. And I did have an experience where I was struggling to deal with being alone and being forsaken and being betrayed by putting your trust in one person, and making the mistake of that being the wrong person. And that’s a mistake that everyone can relate to. I made the mistake of trying to, desperately, grasp on and save that and own it. And every time I called her that day — I called 158 times — I took a razorblade and I cut myself on my face or on my hands.

I look back and it was a really stupid thing to do. This was intentional, this was a scarification, and this was like a tattoo. I wanted to show her the pain she put me through. It was like, “I want you to physically see what you’ve done.” It sounds made up but it’s completely true and I don’t give a shit if people believe it or not. I’ve got the scars to prove it. I didn’t want people to ask me every time I did an interview, “Oh, is this record about your relationship with your ex-girlfriend?” But that damage is part of it, and the song “I Want to Kill You Like They Do in The Movies” is about my fantasies. I have fantasies every day about smashing her skull in with a sledgehammer.

On the eighth grader in Louisiana who said “Hail Marilyn Manson” before shooting a teacher
And of course, a couple weeks ago that eighth grader said, “Hail Marilyn Manson,” then shot a teacher. It’s surprising because on the first song on the record, “Arma-Goddamned-Motherf’in-Geddon,” I say, “F$^@ the TV and the radio, I’m gonna take credit for the death toll.” It’s all I get blamed for. I don’t get credit for anything else. So if I’m going to get blamed for it, I want credit for it. I’m not saying I agree with it, but I’m not saying I don’t agree with it. I’m not going to be some kind of PC, tree-hugger. I’m the last person that causes harm in the world, and if people are worried about what my music does, why isn’t anyone saying, “Hey, shouldn’t we worry about what he does?” Besides throwing used rubbers on the wall…

Initial reaction: Where did he get the gun… and why can’t I get one? It’s shocking to me that it’s easier to buy a gun at Wal-Mart than it is to buy my record. And it’s entertainment, it’s music, but that doesn’t mean it has no value. In no way would I say that what I do is just entertainment. In fact, I love to insult shit that I don’t like by saying, “Wow, it must be art, because it’s not entertaining.” But it’s just ironic that they can sell a CD in a store, and they won’t put the title “Pretty As a Swastika” on the cover, but at the same store they’ll have Valkyrie, for example, which has a Swastika on the cover. Now, I’m not even using the symbol, I’m using the word, so the record company sort of created a new curse word, by default, for me.

Alludes that he was broke at one point, loves drugs & sex
My decisions are based on art and I have the ability to do that, and not because I can retire on a f’ing island. I have nothing, I’ve lost everything, and I’ve got it back, and I’m happy to live in hotel, as long as I can feed my cat, get beautiful girls to do terrible things they shouldn’t do with me, and pay for absinthe and drugs — that’s rock’n'roll. Of course, there’s art to it. Of course I’m a painter, and of course I want to say things, but I’m not going to f’ing sell myself out anymore. When I make a record, the music that I record and the thing I’m going to play live, that’s my album. Whatever they want to put in a package, that’s their product. Why would you want to censor the word “f$^@” out of a song? Really, who doesn’t want “f%$@”? The more f#%^, the better. In life, it’s metaphor — the more f#%^s, the more fun. Hey, it’s only a couple letters off from fun.

[From Spin]

In an interview published in April, Evan Rachel Wood said that she was back with Marilyn Manson. I guess she finds self-harming endearing somehow. Hopefully these two have since split, and it definitely sounds like it if Manson is still spouting off about how he wants to kill her.

How gross is it that Manson admits he loves groupies but never uses condoms? I really don’t get Manson, but I think that’s the point. He’s smart enough, but it’s all scrambled up and confused. He’s clearly on something that is making him so chatty, violent and defensive of his right to be offensive for his “art”. What do you say about a guy who admits he fantasizes daily about killing his ex girlfriend and sort-of embraces it when child killers use his name as some kind of rallying call? He needs help. I guess that’s all there is to say. Oh, and he’s starting to look like Boy George.

Marilyn Manson is shown on 5/22/09 signing copies of his album at Hot Topic in Hollywood. He’s also shown on 5/22/09 with his bassist Ziggy in London. Credit:

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  1. fizXgirl314 says:

    wow… this is just way too much crazy in one person.

  2. Samantha says:

    Creepy. He sounds exactly like my ex. Yeah, I sure know how to pick the winners.

  3. Zoe says:

    He sounds like my ex too, who unsurprisingly worshipped this guy. They are both tools, I should have known.

  4. teehee says:

    Is he not referring to Dita instead?

  5. Praise St. Angie! says:

    man, his shtick is old. I didn’t know that anyone actually listened to his music anymore…his act is so played-out.

    he comes off as trying WAY too hard.

    and yes, the groupie-sex without a condom is gross…and he’s saying he hasn’t used one in 25 years? that means both Dita and Evan f-ed him w/out one? EWWWWWW!

  6. bros says:

    michael k on d listed said it well: isnt he too old for this sh*t to sound like a 14 year old emo kid’s facebook page? and that the only thing it looks like he has been cutting lately is pie. or something to that effect? we get it marilyn, enough already.

  7. eml says:

    a few years back i saw him on letterman and he seemed completely normal. if you couldn’t see the tv screen, you never would have guessed that he looked like he does b/c he came off like any other hunky hollywood male. but this interview makes me think that he has seriously changed since then. and definitely not for the better.

  8. Zoe (The Other One) says:

    Is there anything less attractive than an angsty teen in a 40+ year old man’s body.

    Give it a rest already Maz.

  9. Maritza says:

    The drugs have messed up his mind, the man needs help.

  10. mE says:

    That man needs some help. And yeah, the idea that he has slept with groupies but hasn’t seen condoms in 25 years (lets just hope that is an exaggeration) is just sickening. God knows what disease he has spread or if and how many children he might have out there.

    He is definitely too old for this bullshit.

  11. Praise St. Angie! says:

    bros, that quip from MichaelK about not cutting anything lately but pie cracked me up, too.

    “but this interview makes me think that he has seriously changed since then. and definitely not for the better.”

    Yup, cocaine is a hell of a drug!

  12. Janiva says:

    He kind of looks like Kat Von D. lol.

  13. eggy weggs says:

    Desperate. While I’ll agree that he is relatively intelligent and was really good at packaging a “scary” and “dark” image for naive Midwesterners to love or fear, this dude’s shelf life is long expired. I never even got how he got Dita or Evan. His look is beyond dated. His whole schtick is beyond dated. Go away, MM.

  14. dovesgate says:

    It’s the meth, baby. With a bit of sadism thrown in for giggles.

    If, of course, any of this is true. Manson has a reputation of throwing random, somewhat shocking things out to get attention. Even if its true, I will bet eveything I own on the ex hes talking about being Dita. Taking into consideration Evan’s transformation into a knock-off version of Dita, I think Manson has a bit of an obsession.

    Much of what he says about his art and the abstract condom stuff reminds me very, very much of a book I’m about to finish reading, “Me Talk Pretty One Day” by Dave Sedaris. In the right context, in the right framing and structure, much of what Manson said could actually be entertaining rather than creepy. Don’t believe me? Read Sedaris.

  15. voodoobetty says:

    Speaking from firsthand knowledge of this idiot i can tell you that he is just 100 percent full of shit and everything he says or does is just apathetic attempt at shocking people to retain their attention. Without all the shock he;s really quite a boring individual.

    On a fashion note, I guess thats what Emporer Palpatine from star wars looked like as a teenager.

  16. XxX says:

    Irrelevant has been. Please go away now.

  17. shamwow says:

    he looks like a silly fool.
    he is just gross.

  18. Maddie says:

    What I find icky is the fact that he claims not to use a condom but he uses them for his “art” ………ok so where is he getting used condoms from…SicK SicK SicK

  19. eggy weggs says:

    Sheesh, guys, I totally missed this — he’s signing copies of his book at a Hot Topic.

    That sums him up right there. Poseur!

  20. Praise St. Angie! says:



    let me take a breath…OK…


  21. Miss Wanderlust says:

    If you get your hart broken by somebody who’s half your age and could be your daughter when he had a beautiful & successful wife then it’s no wonder he feels like this(i’m not condoning the violent part)
    But part of me also thinks that when a artist chooses a pad he has to stay on it to get the attention for his new work….nobodys gonna buy the “oh well i’ve made a few mistakes in love but i’m still happy route” from him.
    He is stuck in his own image…Guess he really sold his soul to the (media)devil huh ?

  22. CeeJay says:

    Way past his prime. Irrelevant and comical. Problem with his career is that his fans have aged and left their kohl eyeliner and grungy hoodies in the closets of their parent’s homes when they moved out. In fact most of them note that Manson was part of a “phase” they have long since moved on from. Sadly Marilyn doesn’t understand that, so he’s left behind with nothing better to do than throw dirty condoms at his mirror.

  23. huh says:

    “It’s shocking to me that it’s easier to buy a gun at Wal-Mart than it is to buy my record.”

    –perhaps the only time I will ever be on board with MM.

    He is terrifying looking…and not in the way that he going for.

  24. tasteT says:

    He looks scary, a washed up freak..

    why doesn’t he do something productive instead of crazy ranting..make a horror flick..

    Rob Zombie is still making money and movies..

    Can you imagine MM at 300 lbs crying into a molded cake w/a fifth of Vodka..
    talking about the good old days?

    I see it happening in a couple of yrs.

  25. gg says:

    Drugs and vanity are destroying this person.

    On a lighter note – Laydeez and Gentlemen, it’s MMmm ::cough!:: – Booberry’s less talented marshmallow sidekick!

    He’s going to have a cartoon on soon.

  26. jaudicemachine says:

    Dovesgate – Another Sedaris fan – you beat me to the punch!

    The sick thing is, I really like and respect Manson as an intelligent counter-culture artist. And I understand where he’s coming from re: toxic relationships, depression, self-mutilation etc.

    I just don’t understand why he’s advertising this to the world. Is he really in that much pain? Or is he trying to sell his upcoming record? I mean, he’s peddling his swill at Hot Topic, no less. The whole relationship angst smells awfully premeditated to me . . .

  27. Michelle says:

    He’s just pathetic now. Nothing he says is “shocking”, it’s just stupid.

    The bassist’s name is Twiggy Ramirez, by the way. Not Ziggy as you have him labeled.

  28. fizXgirl314 says:

    what happened to his one blue eye????

  29. gg says:

    He’s getting old. And with it, the accompanying dryness associated with elderly eyes, so he can’t wear his used-to-be-shocking contact lenses no more. Pity.

    He just needs some Replens.

  30. ChristinaT says:

    wtf? i thought he said he had some disease… what an idiot!

  31. Madchen says:

    Check out the Onion article titled “Marilyn Manson Now Going Door-to-Door Trying to Shock People.” It’s too funny.

  32. BlueSkies says:

    Those goth people are always screaming “Look at me!”. They never come from fine families. He’s compensating for the fact that he isn’t handsome.

  33. Candi says:

    Marilyn Manson used to intrigue me,15 yrs ago when he was relevant in the music industry.

    He needs a new look,and a new sound.

    Another thing,he should try dating a woman close to his own age….

    This interview was just a desperate attempt to promote his new album,as his record sales have been poor for quite awhile.

    Nothing he says shocks me,as he is just an aging “rocker”,who has gained weight,and won’t lose the hideous makeup.

    Marilyn Manson should also get his ass in rehab,as it is obvious this dude needs help,in several different areas.

    He’s a douchebag,sorry.

  34. Nony says:

    And every time I called her that day — I called 158 times — I took a razorblade and I cut myself on my face or on my hands. [..] I wanted to show her the pain she put me through. It was like, “I want you to physically see what you’ve done.” It sounds made up but it’s completely true and I don’t give a shit if people believe it or not.

    Dude, I believe you, I just think it’s incredibly pathetic!

  35. sickofit says:

    get that drugs away from him. he is so horrible. and if someone speaks so bad of women, he really shows everyone what a big dork he is.

  36. HOODIE says:

    The man is pretty smart though. I wonder what went wrong in his life. Crazy dude.

  37. Jonathan says:

    what’s up with all the people calling him poser?? Just read what he thinks about his art and he will change that opinion for you. Even the music critics who slag off at him admit that he deserves credit as an artist.

  38. shelby says:

    okay, i think that, granted how creepy he sounds in this interveiw, he really loved Evan, and that is his business. He and dita got a divorce. Big f-ing deal. people get divorces every day. and im sure that everyone who has been dumped by someone they truly care about has felt a wave of uncontrolled emotions. mansion was stupid to admit them in this interveiw, but i don’t think that anyone who has gone through a breakup can deny that anger is a very prominent feeling they have. mansion is a wonderful artist and is, after all a human being, so leave him alone. jonathan is completely right by the way. he speaks to his audience like no other artist has the balls to. he tells them the truth and knows what they are going through..xoxo

  39. Bryanna says:

    yeah–”angsty teen in a 40 yr old man’s body”–took the words away from me.

    Evan should RUUUUUUN away from this wierdo. If some guy said he fantasized about beating my brains in,
    I would not count him as boyfriend material. I wouldn’t take my chances on that he is just “posing”