As we discussed previously, the Duchess of Sussex is a hot American and Archie Mountbatten-Windsor is Prince Harry’s anchor baby. The haters want to make Harry’s citizenship or visa issues into a thing, like Harry will have trouble staying in America or living in America for any length of time. To me, this argument sounded like yet another half-baked theory from the British tabloid press for why Harry will eventually need to crawl back to them after he dumps his hot American wife. So what’s new? “Sources” now say that Harry has no plans to apply for a green card or American citizenship in general.
Prince Harry will not be taking that oath of American citizenship, despite speculation that he would apply following his recent move with Meghan Markle and son Archie Harrison to Los Angeles.
“Harry is not applying for a Green Card or dual citizenship anytime soon, which will come as a surprise to many because that is what most people assumed he’d do on moving to the U.S.,” a source told E! News.
The Sunday Times, which originally reported the news, said that an application for U.S. citizenship would require Harry to renounce his titles and would also expose him to U.S. taxation on his earnings worldwide, adding that it is unknown if he entered the country under the 90-day visa waiver program that is available to most Britons, or if he obtained a diplomatic or other special visa.
So what does this mean for Harry’s ability to earn an income in the United States? The Duke of Sussex has previously been estimated to be worth more than $36 million, and this may qualify him for a visa available to entrepreneurs willing to invest in the United States, the Sunday Times said. He could also possibly obtain an O-1 visa for “individuals with extraordinary ability or achievement,” the outlet added.
I do think the immediate plan is for Harry to simply stay in America through visas, likely O-1 visas. But it also wouldn’t surprise me if there are plans afoot for an eventual green card application. It’s clear that Meghan and Harry’s larger plans were interrupted by the global crisis, but sources always said that they planned to spend much of this year in California. I wonder… so much of their future plans will depend on next year’s “one-year-later review” by the Firm. It’s interesting. I don’t pretend to have any idea about their larger hopes and dreams for living arrangements, visas, green cards, etc.
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They know nothing! Pure speculation and time will tell. He still have extensive interests I. Britain so he will go periodically, resetting the visa thing. I’m guessing they wait until the new Democratic president to avoid Trump using this for political gain like he did last week. They can wait until January.
Agree, Chica71 —- the Sussexes have made it very clear that no one speaks for them, but them. That this story originated from The Sunday Times (owned by Murdoch and very anti-Meghan) is just shows it is a higher end of rabid Royal Rota BS.
There’s no way he’ll open himself up to American taxes on all his holdings or to losing his titles. He’ll get a visa. O-1 or something like that.
He doesn’t care about titles. It’s obvious.
“Entitled” or “titles” are nothing to him.
He cares about his family.
His extended family has treated him and his wife and baby like dirt. Why should he sign up for more of that just so that he can have a title? It’s just a word.
His own website reiterated that he is still 6th in line to the throne and still has his titles. It would seem that he does care. He can still put his family first and maintain his titles. There’s not much benefit to him becoming a US citizen (and it would be a paperwork and taxation nightmare). He can easily live and work in the US on one of several possible visas.
Yeah, no. He likely did not enter the US on a visa waiver. He is not a bona fide tourist or visitor for business.
He probably got an E-2 investment nonimmigrant visa. Not only is it pretty straightforward to obtain and renewable indefinitely as long as the investment remains active in the US, it also allows dual intent – meaning he can be married to an American and apply for a green card while maintaining his nonimmigrant status.
This makes the most sense, really. Always appreciate your wisdom, BL.
Couldn’t he also get a visa/”sponsored” through his “employer” ie: the Foundation that he and Meghan are starting? I thought that sponsorship was how a lot of people get to work in other countries without having to change anything on their citizenship.
Technically the E-2 could be through the foundation since it is a new investment. But it can be difficult for a startup company to sponsor a foreign employee for a work visa in the US. It is much easier for an established company with a track record of profits to bring over foreign workers.
^^ @BearcatLawyer, the Sussexes have indicated they no longer plan to start a foundation. It will be a nonprofit that assists other groups, apparently.
Administering a non-profit could prove lucrative for both H&M. Multiple income streams will be part of their financial program.
Thank you, Bearcat! Question: Could/would the Brit. Ambassador be of any help to him in this matter? Iwould think Harry’s “status” will definitely make those wheels turn smoother and faster than for others.
If he is still considered a representative of the UK government, he could get an A-1 diplomatic visa and the UK Embassy in the US would arrange that. But aside from getting preferential scheduling of visa interviews at the US consulate (for security reasons), it is doubtful his title or his connections help him much.
Thank you again, Bearcat!
I do love how they all insist on reporting about them, basically making stuff up, even if they have no access. There would be very little interest in the BRF these days if it wasn’t for these two and these reporters know it.
I notice Piers has turned on Trump again, no new Meghan stories for him to complain about apparently.
Wow, that’s interesting, Tessa. Piers has been on his knees in service to the Orange Trumpster, so that’s a 360 degree turn. Guess when the going gets tough the sharks in their crowded tank have to feed on each other. How delightful!
Let’s not pretend that Prince Harry will go through any hoops or setbacks us regular folks would. He is probably going to get a diplomatic visa or something like that.
Exactly! But the press has to write something and not many people care about the RF except it’s something to do with H and M…so I understand…the hustle is real for media houses! Well, as far as it’s not one of the gutter British tabloids and people are not cooking up hurtful stories about H and M supposedly corroborated by so-called royal experts and palace sources, then it’s fine…I guess!
Right, all of the British media, and even the media in the U.S. are hurting for ongoing stories with the Sussexes laying low and having stepped back from senior royal duties.
Town and Country is scrounging, throwing out old stories about Diana, and even one about the death of the Romanoffs during the Russian Revolution! 😜
Another tack U.S. publications are taking is either rehash of old M&H stories taking some leads from British tabloids, or resorting to embiggening other members of the royal firm aside from Lamebridges! Recently, T&C did a feature on Sophie Wessex having a long interest in and support of organizations involved in women’s empowerment!
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a32006526/sophie-countess-of-wessex-royal-family-mission/?u
It’s laughable because even within the context of the article, Meghan is mentioned more than once in a dog whistling way. The point of course is to signal that Sophie now has a larger spotlight in which she can show how better it can be done. LOL! The truth is that they are missing M&H and must now try to shine up the boring remainders.
The reality is that if Sophie has been doing all this work for so long (and I don’t doubt she has done some work for her charities), why wasn’t her work promoted and more widely publicized before now? The reason is because Meghan came into the royal firm and showed them all how to go about the business of working and substantially engaging with the public in a beneficially impacting and up-to-date way.
Meghan has showed that it’s not just about cutting ribbons, christening ships and opening hospitals. It’s about working with real people behind-the-scenes on work that you are passionate about. As well, Meghan demonstrates the value of focusing on a core group of charities and causes with an eye for advancing projects that overlap, connect and benefit more than one charity or group. Meghan engages on an intimate level in a way that inspires, and she actively encourages others to find their passions and their voices toward the goal of giving back.
The problem for the rest of the British royals is that they are too staid and boring, even as they are playing ‘catch-up’ in updating their approach to benefiting patronages and charitable projects.
The British royals have been influenced by Meghan’s savvy and by her body of work in under two years as part of the Windsor family. However, no one wants to admit Meghan’s influence, even though it’s obvious because they keep referencing her in articles that are about other royals.
*adjusts tin foil tiara* in the future Harry, Meghan and Archie will have a home in the US, in the UK and in either South Africa or Botswana, moving between the three with some regularity. I really don’t understand why everyone assumes that where they move next, in the LA area, will be their permanent dwelling. I think the only constants for Harry and Meghan will be their desire to protect their family and to be of service to others, but where they do that and how might change over time. Lastly, this whole 12-month review thing really rubs me the wrong way, I sincerely hope that during that meeting Harry & Meghan tell the BRF, we’re fine and no longer need anything from you. I hope that they’ll give up Frogmore, get their own place in the UK and tell the BRF to shove it.
That will work until Archie gets to school age. I doubt they will send Archie to boarding school so they will have to plant some permanent roots somewhere.
Staying in the US shouldn’t be any problem for Harry, he has an American wife and American child, he’s rich and white from a European country. If Beatrice & Eugenie could live in the US for a time and Princess Madeleine of Sweden lives in Florida, then Harry will be fine as well.
Speculation is going to get crazy.
Archie’s birthday is coming up.
I bet there will be a ton of stories about how the royal family misses him and sad they can’t see him.
@Ali said:
“… Archie’s birthday is coming up. I bet there will be a ton of stories about how the royal family misses him and sad they can’t see him.”
LOL! They should just get their fix from the Cambridge kids.
There’s a recent report about the planting trees initiative by the Sussex Squad who launched an effort last November to have people around the world plant 10,000 trees by Archie’s birthday to benefit conservation. When the goal of 10,000 trees planted was achieved in just over a week, the group set a new goal of 100,000 trees planted by Archie’s birthday.
Voila! The campaign reached 100,000 trees planted one month in advance of Archie’s birthday! 👏 😍
I hope the Sussexes will release a family portrait with Archie and including Doria, in honor of Archie’s birthday!
Can you actually “apply for dual citizenship”? It was my understanding that the only way to have dual citizenship in the US was to be born with it (a friend of mine has), and that, officially, for an adult immigrant to gain American citizenship, they have to renounce their previous citizenship (though some countries don’t recognise the renunciation of citizenship by their native-born, which leads to a de facto dual citizenship that the birth country recognises but the US doesn’t).
I would say this is not true because Drake and Seth Rogan were both born in Canada and hold dual citizenship with Canada and the US. However things are different for rich people so you might be right.
Even if he were to become a US citizen he would still have British citizenship because you never lose your British one.
My xhusband parents have dual citizenship because of this. And my x husband because he was born before they became naturalized.
My husband is a Danish citizen with an American green card. So my youngest son has dual citizenship
I got my US citizenship last year and was never questioned about my NZ or Irish ones.
This is an old rule that no longer holds true. Sure, you may be barred from holding some government jobs.
I hope this is true. First I think it stinks to give up your citizenship of birth just cause you get married. I didn’t like it when it seemed like Meghan had to do it, but it seemed to be her choice. Still it seemed wrong to me. I’m not getting into an argument about dual citizenship on here again as it appears some think this is a slur at Meghan and Harry, although for the life of me I don’t know why. At the very least it seems with Harry being a Prince and the current nut US president and Trump’s love of Sussex gossip, dual citizenship would be complicated now. Plus, if a significant part of what contributed to them leaving senior royalty is the media, I think they should wait until they see how LA paparazzi are. I know Meghan lived here before, but not with her current notoriety. Time is their friend here, and I hope, if not LA, they find a comfortable place to live.
If people much more famous than the Sussexes like Beyoncé& Jay z can live in LA & we rarely see pap pics of them sure it can be done.
The Sussexes said they didn’t want public funding to remove the public interest argument that press were using to intrude in their private lives. The Fail’s defence to meghans case is that they published her dads letter because as a public figure they have a right to know how she conducts her personal affairs.
Murdoch outlets in US like the NY Post etc will be out for blood as Harry is suing them but I think the difference is that the tabloid press who were the nastiest& most racist to Meghan, represent the legitimate mainstream media in Britain. Top politicians use papers like the Fail& the Sun to appeal to voters& push their manifestos in these papers. These papers are also referred to in political debate& current affair shows so their views sadly have a lot of legitimacy in Britain. Some of their columnists also have TV shows so their views are pushed from morning to evening in Britain& are hard to avoid. I also wonder if a tv host could get away with Piers’ stalking behaviour towards Meghan in print and on TV in the US?
Plus the palace works with these papers who were obviously leaking nasty stories about the Sussexes to them- probably to bring Sussexes to heel or to drive Meghan out& these same papers were trying to derail all their projects unless the Sussexes gave them access. So think that’s what the Sussexes are wanting to get away from primarily.
On a random note – does anyone know when the costs of the Royals spending is published?
I remember around this time last year, people were going nuts because the Sussexes dared to spend money on renovative Frogmore.
I want to know what was spent this year.
They have nothing! No access, no location no leaks. NOTHING.
Everyone should remember what the Sussexs said in their own last post “No palace spokesperson, royal source.. will speak on behalf of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex”, that there is all we need to know.
I believe the Sussexs are self isolating as experts advised and maybe even with Doria seeing how they have no new footage of her.
I agree that the Sussexes will long term move between more than one home in U.K., North America, and possibly southern Africa, including vacationing in the Vancouver area, and visiting with friends in the Toronto area. They may make the U.S. their home base by which to impact people and charitable groups on a global level.
Harry will have his pick of options regarding visas. It’s a no-brainer. I never thought he was ever considering becoming a U.S. citizen. And it looks like Meghan will not become a U.K. citizen either. Any second child they have may be born in the U.S. But Archie, along with any second child of the Sussexes will have the option of dual U.S. and British citizenship, I suppose.
I also agree that M&H will likely not send their children to boarding school.