Yesterday, as American and British media was absorbing the revelations from the Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s interview with Oprah, two royal women got sent out for an orchestrated photo-op. The Duchess of Cambridge and Duchess of Cornwall – Kate and Camilla – were sent out be photographed separately in their cars, looking grim-faced and whatever:
Somber Kate and Camilla spotted day after Meghan's Oprah tell-all https://t.co/45PiypZyWi pic.twitter.com/JSCl9Md4t0
— Page Six (@PageSix) March 8, 2021
It always surprises me when Kate is strategically photographed on the school run, or going back and forth from Kensington Palace. It happens very rarely, and it always has the feel of a photo-op. I hope it was worth it for both women. Meanwhile, Katie Nicholl had more to say about how Prince William feels about the interview:
William is devastated: “William is devastated by this interview. Don’t forget that the Duchess of Cambridge is being dragged into this whole saga and William will hate that and of course, relationship between father and son is of course at an all-time low,” Nicholl says. “I think that the idea that Kate’s being dragged into this will be upsetting for Kate who behind the scenes has tried really hard to be a peacemaker between William and Harry. She has been deeply saddened by the brothers’ falling out. Don’t forget she was incredibly close to Harry herself.”
No family reunions any time soon: “Harry has said time is a healer and it is. But I think there are so many raw emotions here, that it’s far too early to talk about any kind of family reunion.”
On Harry’s comment that William is trapped: “Harry was born in a very different role than William — he was born the spare, William the heir,” she explains. “William has always known what his duty and birthright has been. I’m sure there’s times when he’s resented the establishment he’s born into and there’s been times he’s kicked back at it. … There are times certainly when William has struggled with his birthright, but to suggest that he’s trapped in the institution, I don’t think it’s true and I don’t think it’s probably Harry’s place to say in any case.”
On Prince Charles: Nicholl says a source close to the 72-year-old royal told her that he was “despairing over the interview” days before it went out. Indeed, Harry made unflattering comments about his father, claiming that he stopped answering his calls when discussing him and Megan’s royal exit. “There came a point where Charles simply didn’t want to hear anymore what Harry and Meghan were proposing. Instead, he asked him to put in an email, something Harry didn’t want to do because he was convinced it would leak and Harry was absolutely right. It did leak to the press and that’s why he took matters into his own hands.”
Charles is not a winner: “Charles certainly does not come out a winner in all of this,” she adds. “Harry has said he felt let down by his father. It must have been a very difficult thing for Harry to say publicly, but even a difficult thing for Prince Charles to hear. … Certainly, in the run-up to the wedding, Charles was supportive of them. He was thrilled on the day to walk Meghan down the aisle. He and his son, Meghan and [his wife] Camilla, had a close relationship at that time that Charles invited them to come stay with them at the castle in Scotland — a privilege that not many people are afforded. So, this closeness quickly turned into resentment and detachment when Charles wouldn’t sit down and discuss what Harry and Meghan wanted for the future on the phone and that’s when we understand the relationship unraveled. But for Charles to hear that he felt let down by Harry will be very, very painful indeed.”
“William is devastated by this interview. Don’t forget that the Duchess of Cambridge is being dragged into this whole saga and William will hate that…” Maybe William should have told Keen Karen to stop smearing her sister-in-law with the racist lie that “Meghan made Kate cry.” Of course for William to make that bold stand, he probably would have needed to stop throwing the Sussexes under the bus for the better part of three years as well. Kate was not “dragged into this whole saga.” The lazy Karen was gleefully part of the smear campaign against Meghan. So spare me this bulls–t, Nicholl.
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He hates so much that she is being dragged into this…as he inserts her name into this again and again. LOL. Cute.
That was my thought too. William hates that Kate is in the middle of this! poor Kate!
And then its all about poor charles and how hard it was to hear how poorly he treated H&M.
I think Harry was very careful in what he said about his family, and I think there is a reason he did not really say William’s name(I dont think he said it once, I know Meghan mentioned it when talking about waity Katie, but I dont think harry ever said it.)
And of course William feels trapped. He’s made similar comments. I think its a different thing though to feel trapped when you are also protected and privileged. Meaning – William’s situation is very different than Harry’s because William is protected by the palace, has all the perks (i.e. security for all his children) and basically can do whatever he wants within the confines of being the future king. That wasnt true for Harry.
William is beginning to be a modern-day Voldemort; everyone is terrified of even saying his name.
Baldimort. -tm Twitter
@Kalana That gave me a laugh!
Baldimort! LOL! it’s right there with PWT!
This was Carole posing as William. No way has Kate been a peacemaker, not when she was actively involved in smearing Harry’s wife. Her actions at the commonwealth service were even more aggressive than William toward the couple as well.
On a different note…… those photos… so hilarious.
Agree. Kate Trump was way more aggressive at the C’wealth service. One of the photos shows William looking at her quite apprehensively I think she has him on notice since the affair. Methinks Katie Keen has receipts.
He pushes her under the bus, then cries “I hate this for Kate”. Like, you’re not slick, William. We see you. He is also banking on people thinking that Charles was the one to make the racist remark. I 100% believe it’s William. But Charles hanging around people of colour today is not helping his case. I burst out in laughter when I saw it.
I wonder if Willnot will ever need to wholey sacrifice Kannot and if the public will buy it. I mean, we will buy she’s a racist bully but will conservatives buy she drove him into Rose’s arms? I have a feeling not.
There’s a saying I say all the time as a joke, and it applies to so many people here in different ways, “ don’t invite me to your party if you don’t want me to dance”. In this situation, William invited Kate to the party, and either made her dance or she wanted to dance, and now he’s mad that people are judging her moves. OH. WELL.
I’m sure Harry hated it when Meghan was said to have done something Kate actually did. Also, the fact that Kate’s part of this story (and so many stories about her) are centered around William and HIS feelings, is so telling about they’re dynamic and the value placed on each of them. Kate is there in service of William, and any narratives about her need to be reframed with him as the actual subject.
How many here in the run-up to a wedding, have made the bride cry?
It just seems so over-the-top.
@Tom, zero. But then, most of us are nice people. And we sure as hell weren’t trying to boss the bride around.
I don’t remember seeing any love between Kate and Harry at last year’s Commonwealth Service. I think his admiration of her has been dead for quite some time.
Tom, my matron of honor chewed me out two hours before my wedding because she thought I had offended her husband and I needed to know how she felt. (He and I had talked about and settled the matter the night before). It didn’t make me cry but it ended our friendship.
Just last week, when William thought the Sussex interview will be centered around who leaked what, WILLIAM and his minions wrote an article about how Meghan and Harry suspected Charles, Camilla AND KATE to be the source of the leaks. WILLIAM made a conscious decision to insert Kate in the Sussex interview narrative because he figured his version of what happened might smear Kate, and Charles and Camilla but benefit his as William. Noe that Kate has been outed as the mean girl that she has always been, William is crying foul because Kate is in a narrative that he himself inserted him BEFORE the interview even aired? Mind boggling.
And, is Katie Nicholls even for real? Of aaaaalllll the bombshells in this interview, Kate being the bully is the hill Nicholls gonna die on? How about addressing the “concerns” that a royal family member had about Archie and his skin color and how the baby’s skin color would make the monarchy look like? How about how Archie’s skin color would FORCE an entire establishment to change so that Archie and his siblings will never be prince/princesses when Charles became king just because they are brown kids!! I thought that would be the really meaty starting point for all these discussions and pandering!! But Kate is a bully, Charles the bully ghosted his son, William is a racist and now they all them been outed has hurt their feelings? I….Cant with these people.
He is definitely trying to slyly rewrite what was actually said in the interview. He’s making it seem like Meghan was full of grievances against Kate, and he’s so sad that this is all coming out against Kate, and he wouldn’t want that, but yeah, Kate, kate, Kate, it was Kate. The way that this interview is covered and the things that are emphasized and deemphasized is all part of trying to gaslight the public into thinking maybe they misremembered what they actually heard straight out of the Sussexes mouthes.
Kate being dragged into ONE THING (making Meghan cry) based on what actually happened (i.e., “the truth”) is BAD. But Meghan being dragged into ALL OF IT based on lies and racism wasn’t worth condemning? Okay . . .
Just here to say that I now deeply regret the crush I had on him circa 2002-2004. He really is awful.
It’s ok a lot of us did. Just remember there are people in the world who think Putin is fine and correspond with serial killers.
Kiera lololol!!!!
lol! yes, those crazy women who write to men in prison and then marry them! lol
Oh man… tons of us had a crush on William. He was very good looking in his teens and, honestly, I would bet money that he was a nicer guy than now. I think the further he gets from his mom and the more entrenched he is in the royal family, the more awful he gets. Lots of people say that Diana would be so upset about this but I think if Diana was still alive, she would have provided William with a lot more humanity and love than the Windsors (or the opportunistic Middletons) ever gave him. People who do cruel things are often surrounded by cruel people. This is NOT in defense of Will as Harry had the same family and chose a different path – but I think the family didn’t care much about what the spare did all day but were cult-like in their control of William… and he is JUST like the very people he hates.
I think she would have been a much more grounded influence on him and definitely would not have been afraid to shut down his bullshit to his face, unlike those who surround him now. It would have helped his personality immeasurably
She would have reined him in and tried to not let him get above himself. He was not nice to Diana at times like when he banned her from a lunch at Eton after she made the lunches for them, and took Tiggy. She and Charles should have corrected him and not let him get away with it. He also did not want Charles there.
I think that not only would Baldimort, thanks Kalana, would have been a much more well adjusted adult, if they had put their foot down from the moment Baldimort was born, and instead of allowing him to behave in such appalling measures during his formative years, Baldimort would have grown up knowing that he has an upbringing of privilege and that he is no different than anyone else or better than anyone else. Unfortunately, they allowed him to behave as a raging toddler his entire life and this is what he has grown to be. Baldimort loved that he could behave abhorrently otherwise he would have searched deep inside himself and tried to correct his behaviour. As for throwing Keen under the bus, he would be willing to throw his own kids under the bus. That man-child has zero allegiance to no one!! Baldimort will protect himself, he cares for no one else as he is petty, vindictive, childish, selfish, racist, rage monster with only his own self interests at heart.
Hmm… I’m not sure. After all, he was born into a family whose entire raison d’être is founded on the belief that they’re better than everyone else. His father was brought up in an environment where he was always told he was smart, wise, precocious, talented and above all, *special* – and despite his obvious insecurities, that belief about himself persists. I know that Diana took the boys to places like Centrepoint and to AIDS hospices, but they spent the vast majority of their formative years with aristocrats (who also believe they’re special) and the 1% … I feel like the deck was stacked against him from the start, really.
@Cassandra
My daughter also had a huge crush on him. Now she blames the drugs she was on for that. (She was never on drugs btw)
Omeprazol made me do it!
not for real, he has turned uglier inside and out.
Nah don’t feel bad. I mean he was a total brat still then but he *was* gorgeous and he hadn’t done half the horrible things then that he’s done now.
Same same same. I can’t believe I ever thought he was handsome.
I mean so many of us now in our 20’s and 30’s did back in the day. He has really aged badly on top of being a horrible, pathetic person. My favourite thing I read on black twitter was that William was so terrible to his brother, Diana from beyond the grave was so disappointed that she snatched those Spencer genes right back.
William got hit by the Windsor Curse in the same way that Edward did. Google “young prince edward” and you’ll see what I mean. In his youthful prime, Edward looked better than William ever did.
@Sunny
That’s hysterical!
@ArtHistorian Whoa, you are not kidding. He was a FOX!
William’s humanity and personality fell out with his hair.
LOL!
I was too old to ever have a crush on William (nor did I ever think he was good-looking), but I had a crush on Edward when I was a teenager. However, I admired Charles for years because he was so much into classical music when it wasn’t cool, as I am (you can imagine how popular that made me in southern Oklahoma, the bastion of country music), and for The Prince’s Trust, which has helped tens of thousands of people with job training and funding for business startups. Harry helps veterans, Meghan helps women. Has William helped anyone, even as a helicopter ambulance copilot?
Do elephants count as people? He’s got some conservation thing going, the Tusk Trust or something. Not heard much about it the last four or five years, though.
“He and his son, Meghan and [his wife] Camilla, had a close relationship at that time that Charles invited them to come stay with them at the castle in Scotland — a privilege that not many people are afforded.”
They truly think we can relate and think POOR CHARLES here? What a privilege, being invited to your dad’s house… That’s the big takeaway here for me, anothet tidbit that shows how out of touch and dysfunctional they are…
Just more evidence that the BRF doesn’t operate as a real family.
Exactly this. That sounds awful. A privilege to be invited to your dads place? Its the opposite of that lovely video clip of them on the beach with Archie and the dog. Thats what they wanted, a semblance of normalcy. A compassionate free childhood for Archie and they are treated like crap for it. Unbelievable.
This was the same quote I pulled – these people are SO strange! I mean, I don’t invite many people to come stay at my house either, but I don’t think it’s a privilege to be invited to visit YOUR OWN FATHER.
Nah, it just reinforces that Meghan and Harry are a joy to be around and everyone wants a part of them.
I found that one highly amusing also.
I have serious doubts on how “close” the couples actually were. Charles was great around the wedding and thank goodness he was because one more family member piling on would’ve probably broken them. But being kind for a few weeks or months does not equate to being “close”. Frankly, Charles has only ever been truly close with one member of his family and that was his great-uncle Mountbatten… who died forty years ago.
Charles was very, very close to his grandmother, the late Queen Mother, closer than to Mountbatten.
He and Anne are meant to be quite close. I also think he was close to Princess Margaret and he is very close to her daughter, Sarah. I also think he is close to Princess Alexandra who was related to both his mother and father and who, I think, was a Godmother to William.
From the many books I have read, I would bet that Charles is close with Anne, Lady Sarah Chatto and David Linley, The Earl of Snowdon.
The Queen Mother coddled Charles and enabling his self centeredness. For a time, Princess Margaret was friendly with Princess Diana.
I think he is also close with Lady Hicks and India Hicks
The unrelenting impulse to position Kate as a victim is exhausting. Probably because it echoes crap women of color have to put up with on our real lives every single day.
LOL… as he sneaks off to prune rose bushes again. Please. He’s loving the distraction from his own asshattery.
Too bad so sad, she could have been a minor player but still a player who everyone knows said NOTHING (even through Carole) to defend her sister in law, to defend a woman, to defend a pregnant woman, to defend a woman undergoing mental health crisis against an outright lie.
All her causes are now exposed as shams. Her organisations will now look at her patronage (if they already don’t) with derision and suspect.
And if William even thinks about his wife’s welfare, then don’t drag her into this in the first place if you were the one who started it, and BIG DUH treat her properly. But nah, can’t do that.
You can’t be “dragged” into a situation you helped orchestrate Kate, you were already waist deep in it.
Kate took the children to enable WIlliam’s PR flybe stunt to trash his brother.
Part of me wonders if it was William who dragged Kate into this in the first place. What if he was the one who leaked the ‘Meghan made Kate cry’ story along with Carole? Knowing full well how it would rile up his disgusting Tory fan base? While I’m unsure if this is what happened, I wouldn’t be surprised. Especially as Meghan seemed to imply Kate really isn’t in a position of power behind closed doors. As other people have said time and time again, all roads lead back to William.
Nah. Kate may not stand up to William, but it’s obvious she does her little PR schemes with her mom. The Tatler cover is an obvious example. Kate was happy the media had a punching bag and she didn’t have to work or pretend to work anymore.
William didn’t force her to act like a bitch in public view at the commonwealth service. He didn’t even do that. No Kate has agency to be awful and she has made that choice on many occasions.
When she wore white to Meghan’s wedding and smirked at the sermon…yep. And that was before all of this!!
Nope, we’re NOT going to remove any and all accountability from Kate in this. She either happily leaked that story or at the very least was fine with it being leaked. She’s been EXTREMELY passive aggressive towards Meghan from the start: the bitch-face and pale ass outfit at the wedding, constantly trying to stand in front of Meghan at family events on the balcony, suddenly wearing repeat clothing like a habit when Meghan began to be criticized for the cost of her wardrobe….all of that happened in the first 6 months of Meghan joining the family. Kate is NOT innocent and should NEVER get a pass.
Here, Here.
So much for Kate’s “spine of steel!”
Their PR keeps telling on themselves.
I find it hard to believe that someone who can go weeks without checking in with her office staff is going to invest energy and interest in a smear campaign against anyone. William and Charles have always been jealous of Harry’s popularity and they run the show.
Now she’s too lazy to be a bully.
Smearing and undermining people is the only consistent work Kate’s ever done.
Carole does the smearing for her. And Kate has never stopped her.
Kate is responsible for her own actions; she is approaching middle-age, for crying out loud. I don’t feel sorry for her one whit. Photographic proof prevents me.
I agree. While she may be limited in what she can officially release through KP, she has other outlets she can and does use (whoever her mother speaks to for example). William didn’t force her to pull faces at official ceremonies. She owns all of this.
“Especially as Meghan seemed to imply Kate really isn’t in a position of power behind closed doors.” I have no idea where people are getting this from. I’ve seen variations of this everywhere, ranging from, “Kate is basically a battered spouse,” to “It’s all William’s fault, Meghan said so!!”
None of that is true. Meghan did not imply that at all, or at least, that is not what I understood from that interview. ALL Meghan did was state that Kate took “accountability” for being such a callous shithead during the fitting the week before the wedding, by sending flowers and a note of apology. She stated that she did not want to bring Kate into this because she thinks Kate is a “good person.” Nowhere in this is it implied that Kate isn’t really in a position of power.
If anything, the fact that Kate sent flowers and apologized, the fact that Meghan very carefully stated those actions as a way for Kate to take accountability, outright states the total and complete opposite to me–it states that Kate clearly knows and understands what poor behaviour is, enough to take accountability for behaving poorly. This is not the actions of a weak-willed, powerless entity. If anything, Meghan is stating quite plainly here that no, Kate is in fact not so powerless that she can’t do what’s right and behave properly, if she chooses to.
The fact is then that Kate spent two years CHOOSING to keep her yap shut through all those fluffy embiggening pieces that attempted to tear down Meghan to build up Kate, while a complete and utter lie circulated to make Meghan look bad. I mean. It wasn’t even a half-truth, and it wasn’t even like the truth was fudged–the whole thing was a complete and utter fucking rewrite of what really happened, casting the fucking victim as the fucking villain. And the one other person, perhaps the only other person, who had the power and the ability to set the record straight, was Kate. Kate can figure out how to act like her own damn person long enough to send flowers and apologize in private, she can figure out how to help her mother run an embiggening campaign in the press and get KP to put out statements categorically stating that she does not wear extensions or get botox, she can figure out how to get their law firm to threaten the Tatler into censorship, but somehow, she’s a fucking powerless, mute doll in this case? Yeah. No.
I agree that Kate is not powerless, but people are going off what Meghan said next – implying that maybe Kate wasnt able to respond to the rumors, because Meghan assumed that if she could, she would have. (at least thats what she said, who knows if she really believes that.)
My overall impression was that Meghan and Kate arent close, but her real beef isnt with Kate, so she was saving her big reveals for other matters.
“Kate wasn’t able to respond to rumors”? C’mon now, really? What Meghan was saying without saying is if Kate is such a ” great person” than why didn’t she put a stop to this? Because maybe she’s not a great person and she wanted to make her sister in law look bad. And I think part of it was like Meghan said, the media was primed to have a good Duchess/ evil Duchess scenario. Plus if they really believed the marriage would only last a couple of years then they figured there was no incentive for the press to cultivate a relationship with Meghan.
I think Kate was the least of Meghan’s problems and she realized that while Kate was victimizing and abusing her, she was likely doing that as a symptom of the victimization she gets from Will. There is a hierarchy here of people who are both acting badly and victimizing those beneath them while at the same time being victimized by someone or something above them.
Meghan to Kate to William to Charles to the Windsor family and their generational issues to the monarchy as Institution to the U.K. press which reflects the U.K. culture of racism, classism, and colonialism.
At any point in the line, someone could say “no. I’m not going to stand for this treatment anymore and I’m not going to pass the abuse on to the people below me as a way to make myself appear more powerful and to ingratiate myself with the very people above me who are actually victimizing and mistreating me.” Meghan did that because she is strong and courageous and one of her values and convictions is to speak up against and challenge people, families, institutions, press, and cultures that are abusive, racist, sexist, classist.
Kate is not as strong and she is not as good. So she doesn’t challenge the people and the institutions that are treating her poorly, AND she perpetuates that culture of abusing the people below you as a way to legitimize her own position within the power structure. She’s not willing to fight against William, Charles, the Windsors and their trauma, the Firm, the press, and the culture of the U.K. Meghan was.
@msIam – well I think most people know that Kate could respond to rumors, since they did, but I’m going off what Meghan said in the interview. That’s why people are latching onto the idea that Kate “couldnt” respond. I think Meghan was way too nice to her there on the surface (reading between the lines I think it was very pointed), but like I said, I also think Meghan had way bigger issues in the institution than Kate – starting with her husband. That’s not absolving Kate of anything, I think everyone knows I’ve never been one to do that.
Kate is a grown up and she could have spoken up.
@Amy Too, talking about how Kate is a victim herself, whether you intend it to or not, has the inadvertent effect of diminishing the extent of the agency that Kate actually had and continues to have in making this smear campaign so effective. There’s no doubt that she is shaped by the fact that she has been victimized by the palace over the years, which impacts her behaviour, but this is a subject that needs to be discussed carefully, in a way where it does not allow her to escape accountability.
Failing to be careful in how we discuss that ultimately distracts from the truth that this was a smear campaign that required Kate’s active participation and commitment to keeping silent, without which it would not have been anywhere near as effective as it was. She was one of the few people who knew the truth. And she kept that shit on airtight lockdown for two YEARS, which helped the spread of a lie that she benefited greatly from. She’s still keeping quiet about it. This was a lie that damn near destroyed someone else’s life and well-being for the next year.
Constantly pointing out how she is victimized by a toxic institution herself, whether it was intended on your part or not, distracts from the truth of Kate’s own agency over her life and her actions. Discussing her victimization has a certain connotation of helplessness that is afforded to Kate’s, which is not reflective of the reality. Kate is someone who is CHOOSING to make the same toxic tools used against her, work FOR her, with no regard for the humanity of the people she is hurting as a result. She is CHOOSING to do this, bc she benefits enormously from doing so. This is a conscious choice that she is making, and that needs to be emphasized a lot more than it already has been.
And the fact that she chooses to NOT stand up to the institution that levels toxic behaviour against her is not a question of strength. It’s a matter of CHOICE. Meghan CHOSE to go up against an institution that perpetuates so much harm against its own members, bc she cares abt others. Kate CHOSE to NOT go up against that same institution, because she cares about herself, and wants the benefits that come with being with the in crowd. She chooses not to challenge the toxic norms because she sees nothing wrong with it. She is happy to weaponize those norms against others to get ahead if she has to. She is CHOOSING to be happy with the constraints and indignities inflicted on her, bc she sees it as a small price to pay for the rewards she is getting in return. She has a great deal more power in this scenario than the discussion of her victimization by a toxic monarchy implies.
In fact, I don’t think Kate gives a shit that she is gets treated poorly. She doesn’t challenge it bc she does not WANT to, not because she CAN’T. This distinction is crucial. The poor treatment she faces is a price she is willing to pay for the rewards. She actually finds the accepted pattern of toxicity in the monarchy useful, bc she sees it as a tool that she can use to benefit herself personally, so she is content with perpetuating it for her personal gain. Not being explicit about this when talking about what happened with Meghan paints a completely different portrait of Kate that, tbh, fails to hold her accountable, bc it fails to account for the fact that she has, and continues to have, a great degree of agency over her life, particularly when it comes to how she CHOOSES to treat others.
I understand the desire on everyone’s part to acknowledge the graciousness that Meghan is extending to Kate, but we should be careful that it doesn’t come at the direct expense of holding Kate accountable for her actions, even if it’s unintentional. We can talk abt the toxicity of the institution that Kate is a victim of, but right now, that discussion is a distraction. It’s coming at the expense of acknowledging her own culpability in perpetuating that toxicity, when it shouldn’t.
Lol. He wasn’t afraid to chuck her under the bus just before the interview to shield himself.
What they don’t understand is that Meghan was nice to Kate. But the rest of us can read between the lines and see that SOMETHING is amiss at KP whether that be William by himself, Kate, their team, or everyone.
I have no sympathy for Kate, but William should be getting dragged with the rest of them.
IKR? Meghan sort of gave Kate a get out of jail free card, at least for people not familiar with any backstory. She specifically chalked the incident up to Kate going through some things, and complimented her for doing just what Meghan would have done afterwards, with the apology, flowers and note. Said she was a good person, for heaven’s sake.
Once again, these bozos would have done better to just keep quiet; not everything has to be addressed.
THe social media sites with Kate stans would continually trash Meghan for “making Kate cry.” And the rumors even skewed to making Charlotte cry. Kate could have made a brief statement denying the rumors. But did not.
Naw, Willnot is just upset that his backup plan of throwing her under the bus can never happen.
That’s all.
William doesn’t give a damn
Kate could have released a statement saying “no Meghan didn’t make me cry”. Even if you say William stopped her, she could have asked Tatler to remove that part or told her friends not to mention it. Instead she doubled down.
Oh. And she could have behaved better on CW day.
Exactly! Even the damn Tatler article (that was obviously approved by her people) kept insisting on the narrative that Kate had cried because “meanie Meghan didn’t understand the sacred tradition of children wearing tights and the hemlines were too long!” She had them scrap the article and objected to everything that made her look bad, but not to this part.
except that the kids didn’t wear tights at Zara Tindalls wedding
Her behavior on CW day last year was the real Kate. It forever changed how I see her.
Did any of the British papers cover CW Day this year?
That and the Lindo Wing dig….. EvEn more so now that we know Meghan was never asked to do it! Infuriating, and they beat Meghan with that stick during a vulnerable time
Lost in all the forgiveness and flowers and good-person-ing is the fact that Kate laid into Meghan right before the wedding, knowing that at the same time Meghan was under horrendous pressure thinking her father had had a heart attack. Meghan even said to Oprah that she couldn’t understand why Kate couldn’t read the moment and lay off.
Yesterday, on the initial Kate Made Meghan Cry post, someone said that she thought Harry might have laid into Kate after hearing she made Meghan cry and that Kate’s apology and flowers were more to stay on Harry’s good side rather than sincere regret for hurting Meghan. To me, that makes the most sense, because Kate’s ensuing behavior towards Meghan did not track with someone who was genuinely sorry and reflective of her behavior. Furthermore, this specific incident with Kate was released to harm Meghan, never corrected, and repeated in multiple vehicles by multiple authors. Meghan said it was the incident that was the tipping for her because multiple people (Will & Kate) had personal knowledge of the truth and perpetuated the falsehood. I think Kate was still pissed at having to grovel and apologize to Meghan (the nerve!) and releasing the story was her revenge.
Kate wanted to cooperate with William by not telling the press the rumor was false.
That makes her complicit, and karma came for her. Good.
Oh please. Kate put herself front and centre of that narrative. She could have bowed out at any moment and chose not to. She can suck on a lemon. Charles and William can also suck several lemons.
Basically everything Kaiser suspected these past few years was true. Like all that tea H&M spilled, the whole time I was watching I was like “That’s what Kaiser was saying!” The Queen is basically not working and Charles is unofficial regent; Harry didn’t want to write a letter knowing it would leak, and it did; it was super shady that H&M “decided” not to title Archie (and it turns out it wasn’t their choice); the bad press set in after the pregnancy/Australian tour jealousy. Brava, Kaiser!
Increasingly, I think Charles is behind most of the shit with H&M, and Will & Kate just piled on. Bc the tour intersected too with Charles’ official biography coming out, and I remember Lainey saying that whatever doesn’t make it into those books usually gets circulated in the press/tabloids, and that’s when the “M made K cry” lie came out. Fall 2018 is key: pregnancy (fear of non-white royal); wildly popular Australian tour (out-shine the heirs); Charles’s biography.
Yeah, Kaiser did call it.
It sounds like Charles lead the charge and W&K saw an opportunity to please the future King and align their interests. They all honestly thought that this could continue indefinitely w/o H&M speaking out.
They should’ve seen the warning signs when Harry and Meghan slapped them down for that awful birth certificate story. Until then, they had been able to leisurely attack H&M without concern. The moment they involved Archie, it was game over. Part of me has wondered whether that moment sparked Harry and Meghan’s interest in sitting down for the interview with Oprah.
I have not been a flower of royal news until Meghan married into that family but I remember an article I read once about Charles getting upset that Harry got to do a radio interview with Barak Obama instead of him given he was the future king .
Mr. Mad needs to get a grip. It’s fine for Meghan to be lied about and thrown under the bus over and over again, as distraction for all of the other crap going on in that toxic family, but heaven forbid his precious Kate have the truth come out about her. Letting the “Meghan made Kate cry” lie go unchecked was a really horrible thing, as it could have been easily corrected. I have to say that my extended family has it’s own problems, but we aren’t expected to feel honoured by an invite to anyone’s house. God these people live in a freakish bubble of privilege and ridiculous, antiquated protocol.
Ughhhh please stop giving Kate a pass. “She’s being dragged into it”
BS. How many stories during their (W&K) relationship have we heard her mean-girling everyone, jealous, running people off & not having too many close friends outside mummy & pippa-tips? Please! She is the ultimate mean girl and she did this & more.
William is much much worse than anyone thought, he & Kate are both nasty a-holes.
Yh cos Harry was apparently glad about his wife being dragged for something she didn’t do🤦🏽♀️
BWHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I sometimes think the Keens only read publications that has a majority of their sycophant readers, because if they didnt they would also know how the ‘other side’ feels about them and gain a balanced take,they would know how to read the room. I cant believe they trotted out Prince George.
“Charles invited [Harry and Meghan] to come stay with them at the castle in Scotland — a privilege that not many people are afforded.”
Harry is his son, being invited to visit shouldn’t be considered a ‘privilege’ or a special gift from a king to be allowed in his presence; it should be considered a family visit. Especially if you want to keep your son and his wife in your family business.
Exactly. The dysfunction is so deep. An invitation to visit your father is not a favor that should be bestowed!
I agree that William is the problem. Meghan specify said that Kate is a good person. They were very clear about that. I think Kate bought in to alll the horseshit the institution is shoveling. I am very interested to see how this all plays out over the next 5 to 10 years. I have a feeling Kate could become more of a wild card. Especially as i think there will be very real consequences for the institution throughout the commonwealth. Either that or she gets pregnant again within the year.
I doubt she’ll do anything. Her goal is being Queen. She knows that she can’t do anything that will prevent her from getting there. Hence why she’ll never willingly leave William.
And while she is trapped and quite frankly, has no other options rather than the royals, she made her bed and chose to lie there. She was with William for 10 years. I would say she knew way more than Meghan in terms of what the firm would be like. People say that Meghan should have known what she was getting into so that should also apply to Kate.
Kate is just as trapped as William. That woman was pushed by her mum to marry the FFK, never had a job, never had a life. She is never leaving.
Rumor has it that neither can stand to be in the same room with each other for more than 5 minutes, so her getting pregnant might be a little tricky.
There is always the turkey baster…
A Guest, I don’t know if I hope they’ll divorce or that they stay together and make each other miserable. I’m leaning toward miserable.
The only thing that was dragged was the stupid “Meghan made Kate cry” story. If he didn’t want his wife to be in this situation they shouldn’t have milked this story for **2 F*CKING YEARS!** COPE, WILLARD
I actually think Meghan was very deliberate in bringing up specific issues with (and naming) Kate, as was Harry repeatedly discussing the relationship with his grandparents. It felt like they wanted to acknowledge that yes, the entire family was part of the problem, but the major hurt and divide was caused by those that they chose not to go in to specifics about. Charles and William’s presence loomed the largest considering Meghan especially never really addressed them.
This was my take, too. By saying one half of a couple is nice, you are essentially saying the other one isn’t.
But she didn’t bring up the issue about Kate, Oprah did. You could see Meghan take a moment, close her eyes, and decide exactly how she would respond. Then, when Oprah asked a follow up question, Meghan was very careful in her wording. Smart, smart woman our Meg.
Camilla Tominey broke this story and she confirmed yesterday with a blood pressure head that she got this story from a very reliable source ie Carole
You mean Camilla “A penny for Carole’s thoughts right now” Tominey, right? Wonder how long Carole is going to be protected? Will we get photos of the kids this week or next?
Yeah, I saw that interview. When the commentator on the show asked if she was saying Meghan was lying — when Tominey said she absolutely stood by her story as her sources were impeccable — she said no, but how does Meghan know that Kate didn’t cry too. She then stated that maybe they both cried, and how disloyal it was for Meghan to talk about such a private moment in detail right down to revealing the flowers and the note. And on and on and on trying as hard as she could to twist Meghan’s version back to the one she leaked. She then said something — which totally confirmed what Harry said — which is all the Royal palaces called the reporters all the time to get their side out so why hadn’t Meghan called her. She just couldn’t bring herself to say seems I might have been given false info. She basically called Meghan a liar.
And that’s what they wanted, isn’t it? To have Harry and Meghan play the same games that the rest of the family do. The BM are disgusting.
Just want to say that Camilla looks stoned AF.
LMBO!!!!!!! 😆😆😆😆
Kate was Agatha All Along. You can’t be dragged into some mess when you’re the one starting the mess.
I am here for this comment.
Kate and Camilla forced out to show their faces but William and Charles are in hiding. Sorry. No one is going to click on a story today about what brand of child’s face mask Kate is wearing.
Harper, Charles is out and about on engagements today.
Charles is at an engagement that had to have been planned. Kate and Camilla are just out “caught” driving. Big difference.
I truly believe that Meghan went easy on Kate because she has compassion for her being cheated on while pregnant. Kate is lazy and vapid but she’s also a woman who was going through some serious shit.
I agree. I think Meghan knew why Kate overreacted about the flower girl dress and she was sympathetic and accepted the apology. But for Kate to just let the false story stay out there…. yeah Meghan needs to stop being nice.
She probably had compassion but as a WOC she probably also knew that she simply couldn’t be forthcoming about Kate’s behavior, because Kate would automatically get the benefit of the doubt. She was extremely savvy in discussing this moment the way she did. Most people are reading between the lines and wondering why Kate didn’t correct this story when she’s corrected other ones (especially regarding her appearance) before. I think someone said the other day that Meghan deflected when asked about how well she got along with Kate, choosing to say she got along with everyone. Again, all people need to do is read between the lines of her statements.
Yes.
You are absolutely correct. As you can see now, Kate is getting the benefit of the doubt, even though it has been proven that she has been a mean girl since Harry has been with Meghan.
I think that both Harry and Meghan made very calculated decisions not to call out William OR Kate for what happened. They were both incredibly tactful. The only family member who really was named was Charles-and that was by Harry alone.
So only Will has the right to hurt Kate? By cheating on her
Man, that palace has ruined the mental health of all of those women. Diana self harmed, was bulimic and hurled her preggo self on the stairs, Meghan had suicidal thoughts. It would not surprise me in the least that the environment caused Kate to have an eating disorder, hence the Tatler story about her being perilously thin. It makes me simultaneously sad for her and angry that she knew how terrible things were for Meg and still chucked her under the bus to save her own skin. Just so many levels of dysfunction.
William is trying to come off as the “protective husband” so he can be more favorably compared to Harry. It isn’t working. He’s a vile, slime-sucking, racist monster, but look how he protects the wife he cheats on!
Except it was Meghan who was dragged in, wasn’t it? KP put out the lie that Meghan made Kate cry months later when no one even knew something had happened.
“William is devastated by this interview. Don’t forget that the Duchess of Cambridge is being dragged into this whole saga and William will hate that…” Maybe William should have told Keen Karen to stop smearing her sister-in-law with the racist lie that “Meghan made Kate cry.” Of course for William to make that bold stand, he probably would have needed to stop throwing the Sussexes under the bus for the better part of three years as well. Kate was not “dragged into this whole saga.” The lazy Karen was gleefully part of the smear campaign against Meghan. So spare me this bulls–t, Nicholl.”
Indeed. And no sympathy for Charles either.
I love how Nichols decides that it’s not Harry’s place to say William is trapped (you know, the guy who literally grow up next to Will and whi the press jammed down our throats as the closest of close and only they know what it’s like and big bad Meg ripped them apart). But Nichols thinks Will is fine? Wow, had no idea she grew up as a fly on their walls for 4 decades!
The Royals know what their base feeds off of, just like tr*mp does, and of course they’re putting victimized Kate, the perfect English rose, front and center.
Also – of course Kates wearing a mask while driving!! Not sure if it’s to hide her expression or pretend they are being safe after the choochoo of Covid , but of course.
Her teeny tiny mask at that. I know you want a tight fit but you can have that in an adult size too.
Exactly…..girlfriend NOW decides to wear a mask (albeit one still too small)….while driving ALONE in the car. She was probably never more grateful for an excuse to keep her face mostly covered.
Friendly reminder that Kate was and remains an enthusiastic and willing participant in the smear campaign. There is no excusing her or wondering if she has any control when she is the one who benefited the most from attacking Meghan. The others had a shield to distract from their skeletons, but Kate got a foil to create her “perfect fture kween” image for these past three years. She was clearly loving it and had a very confident bordering on smug demeanor….until the Rose situation got to the press.
Will uses Kate and their kids as a human shield. She is certainly no innocent in all of this white supremacy family- but don’t you kind of wish she would grow a spine?
Though, then she wouldn’t be welcomed in the family.
Don’t shine too bright. You will outshine the dullest inbred rich people on the planet.
I think the only reason Meghan spoke kindly about Kate is because she knows that Kate is stuck in a loveless marriage with a man who cheat with issues of anger and control, and the Windsors and aristocrats still despise the Middletons. And although Kate has close family, Carole has made it clear over the years that she cares more about William’s comfort and feelings than her own daughter. Consequently Meghan did not want Kate to suffer the same abuses as she because Meghan is a naturally empathetic and female-friendly person (unlike Kate). especially now, that her and Harry are leaved the royal family and speaked their truths.She know the tabloids will return to their former lambs of sacrificed, Kate.
But for me she deserved to be trailed, because she took advantage of the hate campaign against Meghan, when Meghan was critical for the excessive price of her wardrobe, Kate recycles an outfit or wears an outfit or jewelry at a low price. When Meghan is calling rude, the Cambridges team and the Middletons run to the tabloids to inform them that Kate is the great Catherine? the future of the monarchy, the one that is never wrong, humble and kind unlike the black duchess. There was had many stories like that during her all 3 years she was never tries to contradict them and however when the tabloids about her botox and hair extensio, she order immeditly a communicate to deny his rumors. Then her reputation for being mean and cruel to others especially to other women dates back to the Marlborough College years.
People keep using the words “trapped” and “stuck” to describe Kates marital status and I can’t figure out why? The woman wants the goodies y’all, and more importantly she wants the love and admiration that Diana and HM get. If she divorces she loses that. She’s willing to put up with a cheating douche bag to get it, didn’t she tell Harry’s girlfriend it comes with the territory? She’s Wisteria.
MsIam, I wonder if now that she’s lived the reality if she still thinks it’s worth it. I have a feeling that Carole makes sure she stays on her course. That’s some karmic justice for you. So, Kate can keep being mean. I wonder who she’ll forus on next? I don’t think the family as a whole can keep putting these negative stories out about H&M after that interview. That doesn’t mean the BM won’t continue, but I have a feeling the family is going to have to come up with something else. Kate better hold on tight–I think she’s the most expendable in this situation.
After that interview, as far as I’m concerned, the RF can kick rocks.
If Kate is looking for someone to blame into why she’s been dragged into this, she needs to take a long look in the mirror.
It’s not a coincidence that Kate and Camilla’s photo-op involved both of them driving – it’s pushing back on Meghan’s statement that she had her drivers license taken away, showing them having the freedom to drive wherever they’d like. It’s underhanded and low (no surprise there).
If they dared to take Camilla’s keys, she would just hot-wire the car.
Wow, that’s astute SUNDAY. So, if 🐀Rota picks that up, they can say Meghan lied about having her drivers license taken. Of course, we know it’s just another look at how different Meghan was treated vs these two.
Wow, I wouldn’t even have thought about that, but you are 100% right. These underhanded assholes have no remorse whatsoever.
All Kate had to do, at one of her outings right after the crying story came out, was tell the royal rota it did not happen. She didn’t even have to say she made Meghan cry, all she had to do was deny the story and she’d have come out so much better. Right now she looks like a mean girl.
Even if, and its a big if, she couldn’t make a statement she could have shown support to Meghan publically but lunching or shopping with her.
or cooking from the cookbook or wearing the smart set clothes.
There really trying to make this narrative that William is a loving protected husband who so upset that kate is being dragged into drama . Everyone knows that William couldn’t give a damn about kate reputation he just throw Kate under the bus last week . I’m so happy that people are finding seeing kate what she is a racist passives aggressive woman who had no problem helping bullying demonized another woman while she was pregnant. Kate didn’t stop the rumors because she was busy getting the best press she ever has she continues to get the best press ever at the expense of Meghan she never once correct the Meghan made her cry . When she did the Tatler article she went into furthering details that didn’t happen saying she trying to make sure Meghan knew about royal protocols not only is Kate a liar but she continues to spin this story knowing that it’s not true story . Kate would have continued this lie if Meghan didn’t tell the trueness story . Kate would continue to let people believe that Meghan made her cry . Kate is not a victim she a vicious bully who gladly went along with everyone in the royal family while they tormented a another human being just for breathing .
I notice when talking about Kate she doesn’t mention Meghan lol. They used to delight in listing how Meghan was mean to poor Kate. Not now though.
Like the Saudi jewels leak they are probably hoping we forget all about the “Meghan made Kate cry” leak too. Pathetic.
To me, it looks more like William is TRYING to place this on “poor Kate” to deflect away from himself. Meghan made it very clear in the interview that they made up and all was fine between them, afterwards. It’s obvious that Meghan and Harry hold no ill-will towards Kate, whatsoever…which points the finger ever harder at William, in my opinion.
This! He’s drawing attention to the Kate piece to distract from the damning parts of the interview that implicated him.
ALL they had to do was issue a statement that she didn’t make Kate cry. That’s it. Meghan never would have said another word about it.
Hope it was worth it.
Kate was probably doing the school run in that photo – English school kids went back to school yesterday after lockdown – and maybe had mask on because detective in car.
Absolutely no doubt Kate a b***h. I remember all the performing on the balcony, standing in front of people- she did it to Charles and Camilla as well as Meghan – and flouncing on and off the balcony behind the Queen, ahead of Charles and Camilla.
I am British but not from a big cosmopolitan area. I find the skin tone comments? Well, I cannot find the right word for what I feel.
I do not want to cause offence here but were they discussing the skin tone in a manner of interest as they would be speculating on colour of hair and who he would look like or was it a case of the darker he was the worse it would be? I haven’t seen the interview so would like opinions but I am asking this in a nice way.
Was this the famous school run that Kate cried she could no longer do because the selfish Sussex had left and she now had to work harder than any top ceo – per Tatler? Well it seems she was able to fit it in afterall.
Lizzie, I don’t know. I think she takes the kids when she can or she and William take turn about.
Carolind- To answer your last point, I can’t say how you may perceive it, but the way I read the question was how close to white passing is he going to be? Because a visibly biracial, or light complected black Prince is going to be an issue. Or, if you need a more visual answer will he look like Thandie Newton’s daughter Nico, or Victoria Rowell’s daughter Maya?
Meghan said there were “concerns” about how dark he was going to be. I dont think it was meant as a “is he going to look more like Meghan or more like Harry” casual kind of way.
William is devastated because HE WAS CAUGHT.. Why does the UK allow these unnamed allegedly Royal sources to speak for the BRF? You can’t believe a thing most of these tabloids say.
I get they follow the “no comment” rule but is there not a “cease and desist” option?
“Don’t forget she was very close with Harry, herself.”
Ah, so that’s why Harry labeled her “limpet.”
They keep repeating this myth–that Harry and Kate were close. Ah, no. Harry is a team-player, but that’s the extent of it. She is the opposite of his “type.”
Kate has got passive-aggressive down to a fine art.
‘Dragged into it’?????
I’ve never liked Kate, since Harry had ever heard of Meghan Markle. I felt sorry for her because the only time that she appeared to be having fun was when Harry was around but I didn’t think that it was much for Harry to be the official ‘keep Kate happy and distracted’ member of the royal family. My dislike turned into contempt when I saw her behaviour at Meghan and Harry’s wedding. She really showed her ass there and it wasn’t nicely padded like her sister’s.
I don’t hate people I don’t know so I don’t have words for what I think about Kate now, after hearing that she not only let Meghan take the fall for SOMETHING SHE DID, but that she gladly and eagerly reaped the benefit. She is vile to her core. I guess the worst thing I can say is that she and William deserve each other. I hope they stay married for ever and make each other as miserable as possible.
We saw how Kate benefited directly from the smear campaign against Meghan, and how M was denigrated in that nasty Kate the Great Tatler issue. Kates mother was definitely leaking to the press and saw how she ignored Meghan and Archie at that polo match. The fact is this goes way beyond Kate and while she is convenient and a snob, this is a complete mess of the royals own making. Racism is a helluva drug and these guys were were deep in it.
I think Harry’s comment about William and Charles being “trapped” meant that they were both physically and mentally “trapped”. Physically trapped because they are the direct heirs to throne and their futures are predetermined. Mentally and emotionally trapped due to their upbringing and the institution. They are trapped and unable to open their minds and understanding to view the world through someone else’s lens. Harry has been able to see the world through Megan’s eyes and his mind has been opened.
Meghan said that Kate is a good person. She has seen what marrying into that family does to your soul. I think Kate does what she’s told and follows the party line. If she ever rebels, and she might, the shit will hit the fan.
Kate has shown again and again that she is not a “good” person.
A good person would have greeted them at the commonwealth ceremony, not sat with her nose in the air.
Where are all the RRs shouting “Kate made Meghan cry!” Oh the have gone quiet. People are literally showing their racism right there.
Also remember when the Tatler article brought this up, and it didn’t land as expected cos of ‘exhaustedgate’ got backlash. I think it was the tights angle they tried to push. When it fell flat. They than ran to Richard kay to take another stab at the sorry, only I think he changed it from tights to shoes or whatever. Then I think it was Sarah vine at the DM again who wrote an unconvincing piece about how everyone was appalled at the wedding when they say the bridesmaids bare legs and leather shoes. Just last week Camilla Tominey brought it up again with the bullying accusations.
They really tried to push ‘Meghan made kate cry’ multiple times in different ways, to cause maximum harm to meghans reputation.
Seriously, you can tell that Kate simply does not interact with other human beings on a regular basis. Like, to the point where she honestly doesn’t know how to use her face around them.
Watching her try to communicate in direct, person-to-person conversations in what should be casual situations is both fascinating and so, so embarrassing. It’s like watching an alien grasshopper attempting to emulate human emotions through facial expressions they’ve seen solely on diaper commercials.
LOLOLOLOL – this is an excellent description of Kate the Great trying to communi-cate. Hahahaha – I love it!
I ALWAYS thought Kate was a bully. Remember when she totally blatantly just started to dress like Meghan?? Because Meghan came in super classy and fashionable and Kate was like “nuh-uh, Imma get all the attention around here….” Just sayin… She was making those calls to the media….
She got dragged in when she let the lie stand AND obviously sent her mom to Camilla Tominey to leak the story. “Penny for Carole’s thoughts” is what Camilla tweeted when the Sussexes announced they were stepping back.
Cameltoe is still defending her report on UK TV, despite what Meghan said out of her own mouth.
Prince William could care less that Kate was dragged into this. He threw her under the bus last weekend. If William cares about anything, it’s that his smear campaign is being derailed. I’m sure he never thought Harry & Meghan would say a word about what happened to them, especially not the racism. I mean…no one thought the BRF was going to do a paper bag test on Archie for admittance to the royal family. Back to the drawing board, William.
This article reeks of Carole, trying to make Kate more invaluable and beloved than she is. Kate mean girled Meghan from the very beginning. She thrived in the toxic misogyny and racism that engulfed Meghan. People said she never looked better, more confident in the Meghan years. She reveled in Meghan’s misery, occasionally assisting her husband in demeaning and abusing Meghan & Harry. So no, I don’t care if Kate is feeling the heat. It’s about time all of them faced some consequences for their actions.
exactly. who is this embiggening and inviting sympathy for? Kate. does it smell like Carole in here or is that just me
It’s not just you. Carole has her fingerprints all over this. Kate was all too willing to keep her mouth shut and let mummy (and her asshole cheating husband) handle the slagging of Meghan through the RR’s.
(*this does not exclude in any way her own passive-aggressive moves against her sister-in-law)
For me, the only surprising/shocking thing I heard in the interview was that Kate had made Meghan cry before Meghan’s wedding, had actually made amends, but then the exact reverse had been reported in the news — an outright lie, really.
But I am so sick at how every piece of follow-up reporting out in the world right now has re-centered the ~feelings~ of the British Royal Family. I really don’t care how they’re feeling!
I’m sorry-why wasn’t there or isn’t there more sympathy for what Kate went through. (Megan said she was a good person, after all)
She didn’t protect Megan enough? And what is enough?
Did we forget that on Kate’s honeymoon or a vacation soon after, a photographer used a long range lenses to take pictures of her topless. And then sold them to a magazine.
Isn’t that considered a sex crime? The taking of stealing nude photos without consent for profit or revenge.
But your right-too many buttons and Diana cosplay
Kate has proven on multiple occasions that she is a mean person and her snotty behaviour at last year’s commonwealth service toward Harry and Meghan was just one example.
As for the kates topless pics in France, when she and William lied and said they were preparing for their upcoming tour so they skipped the Paralympics after having enjoyed the Olympics in London, Meghan even got dragged into that when the tabloids tried to say Meghan had sexy photos in her acting days and somehow she was to blame for Kate’s photos.
@Dalia – Please stop your nonsense.
William is beginning to look like Prince Phillip.
I think Meghan was generous in her comments re: Kate because she’s a feminist, and as she told Oprah, she doesn’t want to play into the “Catfight!” trope of women unable to be anything but rivals. Meghan believes that admitting she and Kate don’t get along, even if true, is a no-win proposition and diminishes both of them. Unfortunately, Kate and William are still all too eager to continue playing these games.
I’m still convinced Kate doesn’t even know what day it is half of the time.
I think the most telling thing is that there has not been a single peep or appearance from The Cambridges since the interview other than the normal canned responses. Even Charles came out and made it a point to go to THAT specific jab site yesterday (emphasis on THAT because I don’t know how to describe a POC PR friendly location without sounding like I’m from Europe…which I am). That to me says that William got slapped by his Granny and it wasn’t a gentle slap either. He is scared and been made scared.
Sorry I was getting my appearances mixed up. I meant going to a Black Gospel Church not the jab site in the clearly Black Briton part of London.
To give Charles the most charitable reading of his visit: it will help take up of the vaccine in the older BAME community, where it is not trusted. Hopefully seeing Charles happy to have the vaccine will encourage others to see it as safe
“ There are times certainly when William has struggled with his birthright, but to suggest that he’s trapped in the institution, I don’t think it’s true and I don’t think it’s probably Harry’s place to say in any case.”
… but it is Katie Nicholls’ place?
You know. Everybody thinks Meghan being “nice” about Kate, means Kate is not a “bad guy.” I think the opposite. Meghan is being strategic concerning Kate because no matter what, Kate is going to receive the benefit of the doubt. If Meghan had spoken negatively about Kate, i.e. how kate truly is, the UK coverage would have gone more negative against Meghan. This is a set up for somebody in that family. The Queen isn’t innocent, but overall, she seems to have more affection for Harry & some of the other members are very jealous of it. You guys at Celebitchy are right, I think William is going to divorce Kate sometime in the future (him being “trapped”). Kate’s purpose was just to birth the next heirs & like some others have stated, the House of Windsor don’t like the Middletons at all. It’s going to be interesting to see what happens next.
Carole Middleton is to blame for Kate’s laziness. She enabled her daughter. They are both social climbers. They think they are genuine aristocrats by mere association to the royal family.
Carole hates Meghan because when Meghan came into the scene all the Middletons have been obfuscated and were deemed passé. Carole who? Pippa who ? James who ?
I’m wondering if Meghan reads here? The reason I wonder is that we always call her Kate Middleton and Duchess Kate here but the family/ U.K. press call her Catherine.
Meghan called her Kate throughout the interview. Maybe she is a reader here!
I took a look at DM and they are reeally doubling down on everything they have done its absurd. Their whole page is filled with artcicles about all of this an in the comments with like 17 000 comments(??) People are spewing unfiltered hate, is that really legal?
I mean really now it is surreal.
And do DM think this is a good look for them? They have lots of internatiobal readers who I bet is quite shocked at the comments! I am one of them. Also who are these people and what are they thinking? I mean fine they dont lune Mefhan okay I get it people can lune ir dislike whomever they want, but the reasonable thing is to just walk away then. Dont engage maybe make some points the you disagree fine! But threatening awful language where they just spew all bad words they can come up with.