BBC diversity chief says Idris Elba’s ‘Luther’ wasn’t ‘authentic’ in his Blackness

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I never got into Luther, the BBC series starring Idris Elba. I love Idris, I just found the accents incomprehensible, and I didn’t want to keep rewinding to figure out what the hell people were saying. But Luther is generally considered to be a great piece of television, and it won tons of awards and rave reviews for Idris, who starred as the title character John Luther, a police detective for what is basically a major crimes unit. It was a big step for Black representation on British airwaves that Idris Elba was playing the lead, and that he played a cop. The BBC is famously not all that great with diversity, which is why they had to hire a diversity chief at some point. And now that diversity chief is questioning whether John Luther is authentically Black because… he didn’t fit her stereotype of a Black man.

The BBC’s diversity chief Miranda Wayland says “Luther” — the broadcaster’s hit crime series starring Idris Elba — isn’t “authentic” when it comes to storytelling surrounding its Black lead. Elba’s DCI John Luther “doesn’t have any Black friends, he doesn’t eat any Caribbean food, this doesn’t feel authentic,” she says.

“It’s great having those big landmark shows with those key characters, but it’s about making sure everything around them, their environment, their culture, the set is absolutely reflective,” Wayland says, explaining the BBC’s diversity and inclusion strategy during the digital MIPTV conference. “It will be very much about how can we make sure that this program is authentic in terms of the storytelling.”

While “Luther” may not feel “authentic” in terms of storytelling for Wayland, a spokesperson for the BBC tells CNN the broadcaster is “tremendously proud” of the award-winning series, which ran for five seasons from 2010 to 2019. The BBC also points to Michaela Coel’s “I May Destroy You” and the Steve McQueen-directed “Small Axe” series of short films as examples of commitment to diversity.

Last year, the BBC committed to spending £112 million to support diverse productions over three years, as well as to have one-fifth of production staff from diverse backgrounds.

[From ET Canada]

There’s some well-deserved criticism of Wayland’s comments – there isn’t only one way to be Black and to suggest that every Black character has to fit in some narrow stereotype is actually pretty racist. That being said… I do think there’s some nuance to the larger point she’s making, which is that John Luther could have very easily been played by a white guy, and it would be nice to fill out the backstories and nuances of Black characters so it doesn’t feel like Black actors are parachuting in to play “white” characters written by white writers. Maybe I’m reaching!

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  1. Lauren says:

    For me, it’s the fact that she really said “he doesn’t eat any Caribbean food.” I’m sorry, but are all the black folks in the UK Afro-Caribbeans? Or are there also plenty Afro-British folks? To negate the blackness of one fictional character she negates the existence of a whole ethnic group. Could she be any more racist than that? This is because Idris dared to support Meghan.

    • AlpineWitch says:

      Majority of those I have met come from Nigeria or Ghana. Racism is ingrained in the institutions and fabric of the UK but we aren’t allowed to say that aloud, apparently it’s offensive to some 🤦‍♀️😣

    • Slobby says:

      These comments are really embarrassing. A quick google search would show Miranda Wayland is black herself.

      I think she’s a lot more qualified to speak to the Black British identity / experience or the authenticity of the black british characters than many of the commenters here.

      Shutting down a black womans very valid critique of how black characters are often stripped of their cultural identity on British TV is not a good look.

      • Sam the Pink says:

        Except she’s not. No person is a representative of an entire group – especially when the group is large and diverse. The fact that she is black does not mean she is not vulnerable to dumb opinions.

        The “not authentic” enough argument is used as a sledgehammer against POC all the time. I’m POC and I get it plenty – I have my nativeness questioned all the time due to various things, and guess what? It sucks. Luther is “authentically” black because he’s (wait for it) black. That’s it. She is essentially arguing that race is a not a function of genetics or ethnicity, but of behavior – and that’s bogus. It makes race (and to a less extent, ethnicity and nationality) performative, and therein lies the problem.

      • Lauren says:

        I know that Miranda Wayland is black. I knew it from before this article was published in Celebitchy. I repeat that my issue with her statement is that she is implying that the only way to be black in the UK is to be of Caribbean descent, ignoring the other black folks that are of African descent, and that itself is racist and problematic AF. And you can be black and racist. That is a thing.

      • Amy Bee says:

        @Slobby: She sounds like more a racial gatekeeper and it’s perhaps why she was able to get the job at the BBC in the first place. Black people can be white supremacists too.

      • mel says:

        Ya, no. Black people don’t have representatives. No one speaks for me and my experience. I was raised in a primarily white neighbourhood so no, I did not grow up with many black friends. That doesn’t make my experience less valid. My dad is from the Caribbean and while we ate Caribbean food sometimes, we also ate food from my mom’s background. There is NOT one way to be black. There are as many ways as there are black people. The purpose of diversity is to show people of colour in various settings, including some that don’t focus on their black experience as the focal point of a character. There are MANY facets to me as a person, so for someone to only want to focus on my blackness is demeaning and short-sided.

      • Lemons says:

        I wish being Black would be so normal that we wouldn’t need to place stereotypes to have them become Black according to gatekeepers like Miranda.
        @SamthePink said it right: Luther is Black because he is Black. The show didn’t make any efforts to hide that.

        I understand Miranda’s comment if she is using Caribbean food as a placeholder for “prop to enhance the Black experience.” But that’s just it…Let’s stop using props. Let’s stop using slavery, Africa, the ghetto, etc. as a vector to tell Black stories. There’s more way to be Black (or any minority) in the media than the generalizations and stereotypes.

        And I LOVED Luther, so she really chose the wrong show to gripe about!

    • Miranda says:

      (Deleted; didn’t mean to post as a reply.)

    • TQ says:

      @Lauren Yeah, totally agree. She’s really stereotyping, which is very problematic. Very much lacking any nuance. The last UK census (2011) showed Afro-Caribbean population was around 1% of the entire UK population, and African around 1% of the entire UK population: (https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/culturalidentity/ethnicity/articles/2011censusanalysisethnicityandreligionofthenonukbornpopulationinenglandandwales/2015-06-18)

      She’s lumping all Black folks together and she’s stereotyping about what a Black experience looks like. SMH.

  2. Sam the Pink says:

    Yeah, no. There is no way to be “authentically” anything, I don’t believe. Whenever I hear about somebody complain about “authenticity” I am reminded of something Anthony Bourdain said – “authenticity” is crap because its in a constant state of flux – people move around, they immigrate, they share, they mix with other people, they have relationships and babies with people who are different then them, etc. What is “authentic” to one person might be foreign to another, and ultimately, “authenticity” is a gatekeeping term designed to promote one’s own worldview over that of others. It reminds me of my own kids, who are an absolute mishmash of races, cultures, languages, etc. What is “authentic” to them?

    AS to your point about Luther being interchangeable with a white man – well, is that a terrible thing? I thought part of greater representation would be that a person of color can just as easily fit into a role as a white person can? I am not a strong believer in creating “white” roles or “POC” roles specifically, because they can so easily fall into stereotyping like this – let’s have far more race-blind casting in general.

  3. AlpineWitch says:

    The level of denial about passive racism in UK is becoming worrying. You are right, she complains he didn’t fit the current stereotype of a British black man, what has Caribbean food had to do with the character anyway? It’d be like saying I am not Italian enough because I mainly eat British and put pineapple on pizza! Ridiculous!
    Poor Idris, he must feel insulted and disheartened that many of his white colleagues just don’t get it.

  4. Izzy says:

    They couldn’t even find a diversity czar who wasn’t a racist twunt, but the UK media are NOT racist.

  5. Lala11_7 says:

    I see BOTH sides as the cultural aspects of Black culture MSM is almost ALWAYS flattened or ghosted…it WOULD be nice to have Black culture presented ALONG with aspects outside our culture…

    Like me….R & B music is my birthright…British New Wave is my Soul Food…

    Also….this article was petty AF!

  6. Watson says:

    Not sure this woman knows the meaning of diversity even though it’s her job…

  7. Midge says:

    GTFOH.

  8. Slobby says:

    You guys do realise Miranda Wayman is black herself?

    As a black british person herself, she is absolutely correct in her assessment. Non-white characters are most often presented at two extremes – either completely stereotyped or completely sanitised of their non-white identity. The BBC is particularly guilty of this.

    • Tiffany says:

      As a Black, non British person, this reads like she is disappointed that there were no stereotypes in the character of John Luther and she expects all Black people to be a monolith and that is a problem and she is not fit for the job.

      • Bex says:

        Or that she sees the character as completely divorced from the community as a whole.

        The character is flattened to remove things that would make him even more unique in a sea of white-led cop shows. For example, in another cop show from the early 2000s, Inspector Lynley, never shied away from the fact that Lynley is an aristocrat. It’s constantly mentioned, especially in contrast to his partner, DC Havers, who is a woman and from a working class background. Plus, how his aristocratic background afforded him access to places that a working class background wouldn’t. So, I don’t understand how questioning why cultural and societal indicators are erased in Luther (which is what I THINK her point is) is viewed as just wanting a stereotypical character.

        It always felt like the writers were happy to check the diversity box (with one black character), and then opt to sparsely populate Luther’s London with sprinklings of Black (and Asian) characters over subsequent seasons. The cast is overwhelmingly white, to the extent that his character would likely never interact with another person of color for most episodes. Not to mention when a Black woman is added, she’s either his corrupt antagonist or someone he goes out if his way to not respect. There is no in-between.

        So yeah, her delivery isn’t great, but since her comments are filtered through the Daily Mail, I take their manufactured outrage with a massive grain of salt.

      • Cate says:

        Bex, I totally agree. These seem like reasonable thoughts that were either reasonably worded or twisted by the Daily Mail for maximum outrageousness. Like, what she seems to be saying is “we could be doing better, the bar needs to be higher than this” which…is not a bad goal to have? Shouldn’t BBC be aiming to produce the best TV possible?

        A show that comes to mind that is maybe doing more of what Wayland is suggesting is Lupin–the lead character is black and it’s an integral part of his identity, even though the books that inspired the show actually have the character as white. Basically they took a very “white” book and rather than just plopping a black guy in a lead role that could have just as easily been filled by a white person and calling it a day, they reimagined the whole thing in a way that demanded a black lead.

    • Radioactive says:

      Slobby, being Black doesn’t have a one size fits all. And her saying this also highlights what the Black community tends to do to each other, which is trying to say who is and isn’t Black enough. There are nuances to everything and everyone.

  9. HeatherC says:

    One of my close friends is African American with roots in the Caribbean. Guess what? She hates the traditional cuisine. Instead of forcing herself to like Caribbean food she taught herself to make the most amazing home sushi rolls (and they are delish, we’ve been telling her to sell them). I guess I have to tell her today that she’s not authentically black (but not while she has the sushi knife in her hands, she may cut herself laughing so hard).

    • Lauren says:

      I’m afro-latina from the Dominican Republic. I love food from my country but I despise the music. A lot of Dominicans love saying that I’m not Dominican enough because I can’t dance bachata or merengue. There are different ways of having certain origins and living your culture and all are valid.

      • Lemons says:

        @Lauren, don’t do merengue like that!!! I’m joking, but I genuinely love some Dominican music and love the dances.

  10. Oy_Hey says:

    The food thing is atrocious, not all BAME folks are from the Caribbean, and most folks including BIPOC have friends that both look like them and don’t. But…Ooof Unpopular opinion that I’m ready to be killed on here for – I agree with SOME of comments around the casting of Luther’s friends.

    Luther really doesn’t have friends that are BIPOC. Almost all of the other BIPOC/BAME characters are either antagonists or get killed before they can be friend or foe (RIP Wunmi’s awesome character in season 5). Except for his wife, who is also not black, all of his succeeding love interests are white women. As a black woman that has loved and watched every season of the show that’s something I noticed. I kept loving and watching but I noticed.

    • Sam the Pink says:

      Well isn’t that isn’t like what happened with 24 here in the US? That show had basically the same issue with most of the POC characters being villains/terrorists. They could have certainly done better in that regard.

      But I watched Luther, and the whole thing about “friends” is sort of dumb if you know the show. Luther was a loner – he didn’t really create strong attachments to others. That was part of his character arc. He wasn’t friendly or sociable. I wonder if she’s actually watched the show and understood the character. His isolation was part of the whole package.

      • Oy_Hey says:

        Spot on on 24 – T’m too young to have watched the original and was too far gone to get into the revivals but I read those messy reviews.

        On Luther not having friends that’s debatable. Ian (before he looses it) is a friend. Justin is a friend. Mark, as strange as it is, is a sort of friend. He also takes in strays and makes them friends like Jenny. Alice starts as an adversary and before the middle of season one they were pulling capers together as friends. She then becomes his love interest off screen. As I said above I love the show but as a black person there is no reason one of these characters couldn’t have been BAME and I noticed. I didn’t turn on the show, but it took me out of it because I noticed.

        Yes Luther is cast color-blindly but as someone else here noted for some POC folks the colorblindness fails when:
        1) everyone around the character is white or non-BIPOC or BAME
        2) all the other BIPOC folks are villains (like in Bridgerton)
        3) there’s something jarring like the bonnet comment someone her brought up (not in Luther but in lots of places like Shondaland shows)

  11. Sunday says:

    I think her words were poorly chosen, but I think her larger point was that for Luther to be truly representative, it takes more than simply casting a Black man in a role that could’ve been played by anyone. It’s not saying that every Black character needs a stereotypical back story or surrounding characters or has to listen to rap and eat jollof, it’s saying that inserting one “diverse” character into an otherwise archetypal show isn’t really representation. It brings to mind the analogy of a melting pot for diversity which isn’t actually diversity at all, it’s conformity versus a stew where each item is distinct and remains true to itself in creation of a better whole.

    It’s like casting a non-white actor and then not updating the character name from Bill O’Brien. Sure, ethnic people can have any name under the sun, but this is the one POC character on the show so maybe it’d be nice to give some representation to another cultural name. Of course that doesn’t mean that they have to lean in to every cultural stereotype, but it’s making those choices that creates (or flattens) the nuance instead of just ignoring it. It’s why I think colorblind casting is actually a bad idea, because then you get some cringeworthy outcomes like Bridgerton where the biggest villain on the show also happens to be the Duke’s Black father, so a show that is supposed to be progressive and have this diverse cast actually ends up leaning in to the very harmful stereotypes it’s supposedly railing against.

    • Ronja says:

      Agreed, representation needs to go further and entertainment needed to be more inclusive both sides of the camera. A lot of tv writers, crew, casting directors are white and so shows will be written and created from a white experience. I think Aisha Dee (The Bold Type) shared an excellent and on point post about this issue some months ago.

  12. Miss b says:

    This is silly.
    Also, subtitles are a thing. Turn em on and get to watching! The show is GREAT!

  13. CJ says:

    I am between the two. We do want to see minority characters able to fill the casting call same as non minorities. If casting is being inclusive do we want to dictate the story the writer already planned on telling?
    But at the same time as a minority part of seeing myself means seeing some of those cultural specifics. No not all black people are the same but they’re can be done acknowledgement of shared experiences. “Caribbean food” is definitely a stereotype. But seeing a black leaf without any black friends, SO etc, is kind of hurtful. Media in general needs to make the effort to change the narrative on black relationships as much as they need to move away from black stories being based in trauma only. There is some good stuff on TV now heading in that direction.

    • Anners says:

      This is where I fell in, too. I think we need more racially diverse leads, and I’m loving the current trend of casting people of colour in previously imagined whites only roles (like in Hamilton), but it would also be lovely to have more diversity in shows where culture also plays a role (like To All The Boys I’ve Loved Before or Never Have I Ever). Honestly, the more diversity we see in film and TV, the less stereotypical people can be. I’m not sure if I’m articulating this well, but I like how on Brooklyn 99 (not a perfect show, but a fun one), there are 2 black male officers, 2 white male officers, and 2 Latina female officers and each one is completely different from the others and gets to be an individual person instead of a collection of stereotypes.

      TL;DR we need more diversity in acting roles as well as writing roles so that everyone can see themselves reflected somewhere in good shows.

    • Ronja says:

      I think the story can be told as planned but cultural elements, relationships and other details can be adapted. This is what Shonda Rhimes says they do on her shows – add in conversations about hair, challenges in every day life etc.

  14. KJA says:

    I think the ‘colourblind’ casting used for character like Luther and in Shondaland shows for example was a good first step for increasing representation but I get the point being made. It’s like watching a show and seeing a black woman go to bed without wrapping her hair or putting a bonnet on. Does every black woman do that? Of course not. But sometimes there are little nuances that are missed when a character is written in a very colourblind way. People aren’t a monolith but there are shared experiences a lot of people within a group would recognise, and notice when they’re absent.

    I can’t remember Luthers background in the show, but within the UK a lot of us who are black are first/second generation. So if a show is set in the UK, is a character Nigerian, Ghanaian, Jamaican, Somali..? Because that would have an impact. Maybe clumsily phrased but I get the point of actually fleshing out these characters a bit.

    • Anners says:

      Yes, this KJA- you articulated it so much more clearly than I did, thanks! Add depth and nuance to characters – hire a more diverse writing crew!

  15. Tiffany says:

    She didn’t get the point of John Luther’s character.

    He was a loner with serious anger issues whose kindred spirit was a psychopath who successfully got away with murdering her family. And the police department saw his as expendable because of this and as a Black man, he did not have the same support as if he were white.

    There was no space for him to have a well rounded relationship let alone knowing his meal preferences.

    • Kristen says:

      I can only think of one episode where we saw ANY character eat a meal. Luther is a great show with complex characters, and it is very dark – it just wasn’t the kind of show where people are sitting around having meals together.

      It feels very weird to me that their new diversity officer would focus criticism on one of their most diverse shows, as compared to… all of their other programming.

  16. Just Visiting says:

    While I recognize this was a Black woman making these comments, it leaves me wondering if she is in fact qualified for her position. Think of it this way; who are Olivia Benson’s friends outside of work? How often do we notice Detective Goren eat takeout for dinner? We know Deputy Chief Brenda Leigh Johnson is from Atlanta, how often does she seek out Southern comfort food while working in Los Angeles? The fact is… nobody cares. Television is not designed to share every experience a character can have. Most of the time, if a character is offscreen its as if they cease to exist.

    The joy of watching Idris play DCI John Luther was how he existed in London and navigated the criminal underworld all while demonstrating his brilliance at solving crimes. By design, he has no friends. Again, this is worrying from an individual who should know better. And for those of you who claim it cannot be racist because she is Black, please consider who she came to have these garbage assumptions. I am surprised she didn’t wonder aloud why John Luther wasn’t simply some other stereotype that would seem more palatable to White viewers. BBC has a lot of work to do in the near future.

  17. wals says:

    I will say that in the UK, we like all other countries have not been as diverse as we should have been with our media over the last 30+ years. However, one thing that I have liked is that POC in our shows, haven’t necessarily been defined by their blackness, being Indian, being asian etc. i.e they’re not specifically defined as POC first and foremost, there isn’t always a ‘struggle’, although there is exposure to the culture if it fits the storyline.

    Anyway, my take on Luther is he is police officer, that’s his character that’s his life. He had no friends, we didn’t see him eating. He is the job. It seems to me that the diversity chief is being a bit too ‘woke’ here to the point that it’s gone the other way.

    There is no one black experience, POC aren’t a monolith.

    I’m not black, but I am a POC – are we not enough for you if we don’t fit the stereotypes of what you want us to be?

  18. bonobochick says:

    Luther is a lone wolf and he didn’t really have any friends at all. His lone wolf status plays a huge part in the show.

    I grew up Black in California. I have a multicultural group of friends. My Black friendsand I didn’t grow up eating Caribbean food (tho I did grow up eating a lot of Mexican, Southern comfort, and some Ethiopian food). Doesn’t make us any less Black.

    Being Black isn’t a monolith of the same experiences that allows objective judgement for what is and isn’t “authentic.” I get what she’s criticizing but at the same time she’s applying her own stereotypes to do it and to a generally anti-social character. There’s no one way nor “right” way to be Black.

  19. Veronica S. says:

    I think what she was saying there is that there’s a hard line you have to walk where you don’t want to portray an ethnic minority as a stereotype, but if you want to be honest in your writing, you have to acknowledge that some stereotypes are rooted in some very real cultural divisions that exist because minorities are isolated and sometimes forcibly disengaged from mainstream society. It’s one of the reasons not having diverse voices in the writing room becomes an issue because people who populate the majority demographic can’t always come down one way or another with a firm idea of whether they’re crossing a line or straddling it properly.

    I’ve never seen Luther, so I can’t comment one way or another about the veracity of her critique, but that’s mostly what I gathered was her intent. Whether it’s fair or even possible to always fully commit to in storytelling is another issue altogether.

  20. Mimi says:

    I think her comments may have been understood. As a black British Londoner I’ve noticed some shows with POC leads (Luther, Lupin e.g.) tend to be the only ethnic in “village”.
    Black characters do not need to be walking stereotypes but most black people have other black friends, love interests and colleagues so TV shows/movies should reflect that.

    • Lemons says:

      I can understand this point. Luther doesn’t have to represent everyone in the community, but his environment should be more representative. That being said…he seemed to be a loner, so I don’t know why this was the show that she chose. If she can’t think of any others, she’s not doing her job.

  21. Amy Bee says:

    The main problem with the BBC is there are not enough black people behind and in front of the camera.

  22. Ohreally says:

    I think her words fell flat, but the meaning is clear…he would have a different experience in life as a Black character, and a Black writer would know that. A Black writer with a background in policing would know even more. This reminds me of the writer they chose for the Andrew character on Insecure. He was Asian with a black partner so his perspective would be different than just any writer. There’s a way to add bits of nuance to make a character a bit more relatable. There’s no monolith, but there’s commonalities, and I don’t think it’s racist to call that out. It’s interesting someone brought up Olivia Benson. Imagine just having a man write her character and leaving out things that women commonly do? The police show with the Irish American family still needs to know Irish American common traits. It’s just good story telling (see This Is Us).

    I’m quite tired of some people with a (one) Black friend using this point in a discussion that they should sit out of. Personally, I don’t care for Caribbean food, but I promise you I still know and appreciate the little things. It makes the default character more interesting because there’s layers to everyone. Sandra Oh’s character in her current show could have been played by any ethnicity, but they still brought her cultural points in and not only was it respectful, but a nice appreciated touch. People want to pretend they don’t understand what the BBC Diversity woman meant (not going to Google or scroll up for her name), but five seconds of empathy should cure that. If not much more. Your empathy, your dosage.

  23. Mich says:

    I’ve only seen a couple of episodes but Luther didn’t seem like the social type to me.

    Also, what she is insinuating is really regressive. Black actors have been fighting against being confined to stereotypes for decades. Should the entire crux of the character have be rewritten to be “authentically black” or should a black man not have been cast in the role? Because those of the only two options based on her thesis.

    • Sam the Pink says:

      I contrast this against the recent stories about Ray Fisher in Justice League talking about how the studio executives who wanted his character to act “more black” and Fisher trying to explain to them how he found that objectionable. So the (white) studio executives were in the wrong for wanting Fisher to act more stereotypically but this black woman is correct for wanting Luther to do the same thing? I don’t buy it – both can be wrong in this case.

      • Mich says:

        I agree. They are both wrong.

        Also, the Justice League people wanted to use blackness as a punchline, which is just gross.

  24. AMJ says:

    Her comments are racist af. You know, if you looked at my life, you’d say I’m not authentic in my Polishness – I don’t eat kielbasa, don’t go to church, can’t stand polka or disco polo music.
    How disparaging is to stereotype people like that?
    White people eat what they want, Black people need Caribbean food to keep their Blackness? That’s offensive idea and I’m not easily offended.

  25. Kkat says:

    I think she should focus on the 99% of shows on BBC that are only white, not the 1% show that she has deemed not black enough

  26. Ginger says:

    What I’m getting out of various reader comments is THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE BLACK CHARACTERS / STORIES TO REFLECT ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF BLACK PEOPLE. More, please.

  27. HK9 says:

    Fire her. If she doesn’t know that 1. Not all black people are Caribbean and 2.Luther never had friends outside his workplace (I don’t remember anything other than the wife) she didn’t watch the show either.

  28. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    My God, did I just read that? She should be fired for this bullshit.

    Love Idris. LOVED Luther. I found absolutely nothing wrong about the show until now. Until some racist f@ckface decided to hurl absurdities.

    • Linda says:

      She is a black woman and even though she didn’t articulate her point well, as a fellow black woman I understand the point she was trying to make.

  29. Liz version 700 says:

    Somewhere out there one of the sexiest men in the world is laughing his bleep off at this stupid person.

  30. PixiePaperdoll says:

    Give the show another chance. It’s included with Amazon Prime and it’s got subtitles which I need for all British shows. (Although Paul Hollywood is better when you can’t understand him.)

  31. Brincalhona says:

    If you haven’t watched the Small Axe anthology or I may destroy you mentioned above, please do so. Highly recommend

  32. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    (In response to Linda above….) What if a white person had said the exact same thing word for word? I could never understand the full scope of being black in different communities and countries and all the macro and micro layers within that scope. BUT, I would definitely like to see a litany of black characterisations to consider across many film projects rather than pick apart a single piece of work which was brilliantly portrayed by a very talented black actor. It seems desperate instead of intuitive and progressive.

    Oh, sorry for my tone. I re-read it, and I certainly spewed lol. That’s how much I love Idris as Luther…don’t mess with Luther!

  33. Emily_C says:

    Idris Elba took the role because Luther’s a full character, not a stereotype in any way.

    Britain is really beclowning itself lately.

  34. CoffeChamp says:

    Awful take by Miranda Wayland, a Black woman. You’ve all said it already (stereotyping etc…) but I’ll add, she sounds like an idiot and is unqualified for her job.

  35. Juju says:

    I kind of get what she’s saying but it also sounds super strange. People are only really black if they have black friends and eat Carribean food? That’s just super cliché.

  36. FF says:

    I don’t know what she’s saying here because firstly, Luther pretty much has no friends outside of his work – that’s one of his issues – and there are plenty of Black people that don’t eat their cultures food. Black people aren’t a monolith, there’s no one way to be Black.

    Pretty sure Netflix will snap Luther up and give it a bigger budget, lol.