Duchess Kate dusted off her big, shiny, gold Dolce & Gabbana buttons this week

Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visit 282 East Ham Squadron Air Training Corps

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge stepped out on Wednesday for a tour of the 282 East Ham Squadron Air Training Corps. The Duke of Edinburgh was the Honorary Air Commodore-in-Chief for decades before he handed the patronage off to Kate in 2015. I remember when that happened too! It happened just before Christmas that year, and the handing-off had the feel of the Queen and Philip trapping Kate at the palace and foisting the patronage upon her. It was pretty funny. What’s interesting is that this event was technically Kate’s alone, since she’s the patron of the Air Cadets. That means that William tagged along on one of her events yet again. He’s been doing that a lot! I think it speaks to how little William has going on, patronage-wise, and how the Keens are terrified of Kate being asked a difficult question.

As for the fashion, Kate did a repeat. This is a Dolce & Gabbana coat which she wore to the 2017 Remembrance Day royal event at the Cenotaph. She was pregnant when she wore it then, which might be why I’m getting preggo-vibes from her in these photos. Like, the coat was tailored originally to give her some room in the mid-section. That being said, her face seems… softer. Is she knocked up again? Pregnant… with shiny gold buttons. The buttons are her babies now.

As for William, he’s been super-focused on the football (soccer) drama in Europe this week. I can’t even really explain what’s going on, but I think it was a case where the richest teams/clubs wanted to create their own “super league” where they would just play each other and keep all of the money and not share with the clubs with less resources. Like, a special football-club oligarchy. Since football is one of the few things William is truly keen about, he did two personal tweets about it, one tweet when the super league thing was just being announced, and one tweet when the super league died a swift death. Does he think this makes him look blokey? It makes him look like a lightweight. He cares enough to do personal tweets about football, but not about… other stuff which is much more important.

Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visit 282 East Ham Squadron Air Training Corps

Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visit 282 East Ham Squadron Air Training Corps

Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visit 282 East Ham Squadron Air Training Corps

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  1. Andrew’s Nemesis says:

    If she’s knocked up again the people of the UK, millions of whom have lost their jobs during the pandemic, are going to go absolutely ballistic. ‘Britain’s Biggest Benefits Family strikes Again!’ etc. No amount of Meghan-squirrels will be able to save Wiglets from their wrath.

    • Cecilia says:

      I highly doubt people will get angry at kate for being pregnant. That being said. I don’t think she is. I don’t think her face looks any fuller to be honest. She just wore this dress because officially the RF is still in mourning

    • Me says:

      I’ll bet they’re looking to stir up speculation about a possible pregnancy. After all the narrative has to move forward and the tabs need fresh headlines. As Shonda says, “sometimes you have to lay track.” Maybe some fresh filler?

      • L84Tea says:

        That’s what I think. I don’t think she’s pregnant, but I would bet money that Kate and Carole want people to speculate that she is–as maybe a distraction from her bad press, or maybe even just to try and steal some of Meg’s thunder. Yes, I believe Kate is THAT petty.

      • JT says:

        After how thin she was looking just this weekend, I would be surprised if she was pregnant. Not only because of that, but Willy didn’t even want Louis, having a fourth night be too much for him.

      • (The OG) Jan90067 says:

        Let’s not forget how twig like thin she was in that coat dress at the funeral on Saturday. That was only 6 days ago. No way she is going to get pregnant and show in 6 days.

        I wonder if she and The Other Brother knew Meg was pregnant early on? At THAT point, if she knew, I wouldn’t put it past her to try and get pregnant to compete with Meghan to have another girl (gender selection, which I still think they did with Charlotte… just my feeling).

      • FC says:

        I’ve said this before. The only way for the Cambridges/BRF to really bounce back from the racism claims — or at least change the narrative — is for Kate to get pregnant and the queen to die (cuing weeks/months of favorable coverage).

      • I think her face looks wonky. Her jowls, dark circles, and heavy fillers are all showing in this one and her face looks heavier than it did at the funeral. This tells me her funeral photos taken by her friend were heavily photoshopped. I think she looks absolutely awful here. Put the full length here up against the full link funeral photo and she looks to —- all of a sudden —- have gained at least 30 pounds. Surely she didn’t become 6 months pregnant in just a few days!

      • Lorelei says:

        @Me ITA with this. It was definitely purposeful because so many of us had exactly the same thought as soon as we saw the photos, so mission accomplished, I guess, Kate.

        It’s what people accused Meghan of doing by wearing her coat half-unbuttoned to Eugenie’s wedding. At that point we didn’t know if she was or not, but the photos got people talking.
        Of course Meghan was ACTUALLY pregnant; Kate is just doing it for attention imo.

    • Virginia says:

      The woman in the back in the first picture is saying “but she looked different in the funeral! What happened?”

      • Robin says:

        You made me laugh. So I double checked, and you’re right about the look. Very funny!

    • Chartreuse says:

      I dislike speculating about her body but she looked reed thin the other day.. Her weight is her business, but I don’t think they’re having another

    • BayTampaBay says:

      “Britain’s Biggest Benefits Family strikes Again!’”

      I think think the slang term is “Benefit Scrounger”??? LOL!

      “Benefit scrounger” is a snarl word used mostly entirely by right-wing newspapers, such as The Daily Mail, and related talking heads, such as Piers Morgan, in the United Kingdom. The benefit scrounger, according to these sources, is an individual who makes a profession out of milking the welfare system for all it is worth, rather than entering gainful employment.

    • DuchessL says:

      That white doily coat the other day at the chapel said something to me and this coat, worn when she was pregnant is another hint. But I was thinking she is getting older and personally the more I think about it, the more I think that Kate has some sort of mental health issue because she was so painfully thin for so many years. So I think she is finally being treated for whatever it is, and that is why she might be gaining some weight, and that is why William might be accompanying her, as support or as a shield, because anxiety, too much stress, too much pressure, and also she cannot answer any questions with her own opinions because I think she has no clue what her opinion is, she lives in a disconnected bubble since 10 years. Hey, if meghan was depressed, suicidal after 2 years, I mean after 10 she’s clinging to a fine string here. It was the same with Diana.

    • Missskitttin says:

      Ballistic bad or ballistic good?
      If shes not pregnant she needs to get that thing re-altered. If she’s pregnant then its a girl cause she looks somewhat disheveled…

    • Demi says:

      Lol didn’t Philip say back in the day that overpopulation was a problem yet he had 4 of his own..Imagine kate gets pregnant now and the baby gets to be prince\princess people should be upset with this parasite family

      • Waitwhat says:

        Philip did have his kids in the 1950s and 1960s, when overpopulation wasn’t much of a worry (rather the opposite after the Second World War). He made his comments about it much later, in the 1980s. Still a bit hypocritical, but it *was* a different time.

        I don’t like getting all up in other women’s uteruses (uteri?) and that applies to Kate, too.

  2. Nomegusta says:

    I didn’t realize how photoshopped the funeral photos were until now…why Kate Karen Khloe Kardashian???? Why????

    • Victoria says:

      OMG, yes. Kate has a hard ass face that they try to soften. She’s not aging well and I attribute that to her and husband being a snake.

      • FC says:

        Also tanning. Those Middletons love their tanning.

      • My3cents says:

        Now that she’s without her mask (and photoshop) , yeah, she’s maturing rapidly.

      • It’sJustBlanche says:

        I don’t even dislike her and I often like her clothing (ducks) but she is aging horribly. I think it’s just a thing with her family. Pippa looks a good ten years older as well. Some people just get hard and Kate is one of them.

      • Jaded says:

        Over-tanning, smoking, stress over a philandering rage-monster of a husband and starving yourself does that to a face…not to mention seething jealousy of Meghan and Harry.

    • Lemon says:

      I honestly don’t think she was photoshopped much.

      If you go outside on a cloudy day and have your photo taken, all of the light is ambient light from the sky. It’s overhead, you get a cash shadow from your eyebrow ridge, and it accentuates dark circles and bags, it makes little shadows underneath your wrinkles. Cloudy day is a photographers worst nightmare because you know people are going to look bad.

      If you are in a car, the roof blocks out overhead light. You get soft light from the windows and if the car interior is a light color it acts as a reflector bouncing soft light all around. Basically, the most ideal perfect lighting situation, like the best Instagram filter ever. It smooths out all the lines, evens eye bags etc.

      I have a photo I took of my best friend at her wedding. She was waiting inside the limo. She loves that picture and it’s one of her best. And I think it’s just because of the light in the car!

      I think they just caught kate looking out the window in the car and it turned out to be a very nice photo of her.

      • Lorelei says:

        @Lemon this is so interesting! I didn’t know any of that and will try to take more photos in cars now, lol. But seriously, thank you for the info.

      • Christine says:

        I agree! Thank you, maybe I can take a successful pic of tween now.

    • BarbN says:

      Just an aside note – I recently looked at a slideshow online that offered images of what historical figures would look like in our modern era, done with 3-D scanning and photoshop. Anne Boleyn’s “modernized” face looked just like Kate’s – it was eerie.

  3. Snuffles says:

    It looks like her Botox wore off again.

  4. Aurora says:

    If Kate is preggers again I hope UK taxpayers revolt.

    Don’t Britons lose financial support for any child after the second?

    • FC says:

      It will be kind of funny to watch taxpayers react to a Kate pregnancy. They’ve been trashing H&M for so long about having to pay for this and that, all while praising the “regal” Cambs and turning a blind eye to their spending/wealth.

    • L4frimaire says:

      Remember those weird stories that came out that the Cambridge’s announced to the Queen they were going for a forth child? Maybe something there but at the same time, she dresses very deliberately and people will remember when she last wore this outfit, so it will lead to speculation.

  5. Seraphina says:

    She looks unkept. Her hair needs to be trimmed and give it some body. And her face looks, TIRED. She looks like she had a rough night, rolled out of bed and put on that coat. She has “matured” and she looks way older than she is.
    And why no masks????? Ahhhh, because for this royal duo masks are for when we want to shield our faces from the world so our expressions can not be analyzed.

    • Becks1 says:

      It shows how photoshopped those funeral pictures were. Here her hair looks like a completely different color (unless she got it dyed earlier in the week?) and she looks really tired.

      (They did wear masks when they went indoors but to me it seems more unsanitary to keep taking it off and putting it on, just wear it the whole time.)

    • Sunday says:

      Yes, I hate to speculate on women’s looks but the contrast between her appearance at the funeral and here is actually shocking. I agree it looks like she had a very rough night, and to me it looks like she had to get ready herself versus having any help with her hair because I can’t see anyone else just letting her show up like that. I don’t think she’s pregnant but she’s definitely going through something.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Kate’s heavy history of photoshop really got exposed with her portrait unveiling years ago.
        The artist has hand picked by her for their realistic touches. And the photograph used by the artist was hand picked by Kate as well.
        What everyone saw was Kate as she is and no one understood the 2 kates. One had no wrinkles and a glow. The other had jowls and a scowl with angry eyes.

        These are the 2 kates. Smoke and mirrors or aging harshly from that family, sun, smoking and poor diet/hydration.

        There were even articles that used less touched up Kate photos to say she was overworked and tired. But days earlier those same even photos touched her up and made her look radiant.

      • Sunday says:

        I agree about the photoshop and it’s been very evident based on contrast between photos and live appearances for quite some time, but what stands out here to me is the general untidiness of her hair and the frumpiness of the coat/styling. Those would (typically, one would think) fall outside the purview of photoshop retouching, so to me they are more indicative that something is off. They might brighten up her hair color but they wouldn’t photoshop an entire hairstyle (lol, imagine?). It’s beyond digitally smoothing out wrinkles or aging, it just seems almost shockingly out of character for her to show up literally looking (as some have mentioned) like she’s hungover and rolled out of bed. Skintight jeggings, sure, but not morning-after-the-office-holiday-party disheveled.

      • My Two Cents says:

        omg Wiglet Watcher – The other had jowls and a scowl with angry eyes. ha ha ha ha ha

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        The reference I made about Kate looking tired in some photos and revitalized in others that came from the same event… they photoshopped her hair in those! Those blended out her grey roots! So, we know it’s been done.

        Kate’s hair here falls like it did without a extensions and wiglets. And it’s a huge blow to all those defenders claiming her hair was naturally too thick and always looked like a blow out.

      • Lorelei says:

        @WigletWatcher ITA. As soon as I saw the photos I was like, “welp, we know she spent yesterday at the salon.”

        I actually think her natural hair is beautiful and don’t understand why she messes with it at all (with the exception of covering grays). I dislike a lot of things about Kate but she does have great hair! Even on a bad hair day for her, I’d rather have hers than mine. Mine is a similar length and color (when hers was darker), but I don’t have someone doing it for me every day and coming to my house to give me a blowout whenever I want. That’s the *dream*

      • Lyds says:

        @Wigletwatcher Gosh that official portrait was trolling at the highest artistic level!! At the time everyone said it aged her 100%.

        But I’m now convinced that it was some prescient, Dorian Gray situation…the artist accurately depicted her inner being and she 100% mirrors that “mean-eyed, hanging jowls, heavy-bags, and dark circles” image to the tee now.

    • Myra says:

      She looks a lot like her mother here. With shorter hair, she could have easily passed for her. Maybe this is what they meant when they said she has matured. Perhaps doing her own engagement would show some of that maturity. They look so awkward together it feels more like a handler situation, as opposed to a loving and mutually respectful partnership.

      • ShazBot says:

        YES. I can’t get over how much she looks like Carole here. I started noticing it last summer (the event with the pink pants and white tee) how much she’s starting to look more and more like Carole, I guess as she gets older.

      • Zebz says:

        I agree. William comes off as creepy here and the way he cut her off was rude af too.

    • Mgbaru mmiri says:

      You are right , she looks tired and worn out

      • MerlinsMom1018 says:

        @Mgbaru mmiri
        If I were in that family I would look tired and worn out too and that would be on a GOOD day

      • Chicken Tetrazzini! says:

        I look tired and worn out and I surround myself with cats and good people. I can’t imagine the exhaustion living in a vipers nest and being a viper

      • Lorelei says:

        Honestly, this is the most relatable that Kate has ever been. When everything isn’t absolutely perfect, not a hair out of place, etc.
        I can actually cut her some slack because she genuinely looks like a person who’s had a rough & stressful few days, instead of trying to cover it all up and look flawless because god forbid she comes across as an actual human being.

      • Kelly says:

        It was a windy day from what I saw on the video.

    • Nicole says:

      Wow, even I noticed her face today. She looks puffy and tired. If I see it, it’s definitely noticeable. My first thought was she had been crying, her eyes are unusually puffy.

      • That’s also what came first to my mind— that she cried her eyes out the night before. I don’t want to be in her place where you always have to put up with William and shut up. She had a choice but she chose this. She didn’t choose to ship out. At least not yet. When she does, that’s going to be the Royal Family’s biggest scandal and a turning point for the monarchy. IMHO.

    • april says:

      Seraphina – the word is unkempt and not unkept.

    • iconoclast59 says:

      Long, same-length hair usually isn’t that flattering once you reach a certain age. It really drags your face down. Kate would look much better in a shoulder-length cut with some light layering around her face.

    • Waitwhat says:

      If that’s your definition of “unkept” (unkempt?) you have some super-high standards!

      She looks like she usually does: neatly and appropriately dressed, matching accessories. It’s so interesting to me how different people see different things because over on Tomandlorenzo they described her outfit as “a lovely coat and a tasteful but stylish way to maintain mourning attire with a bit of the military undertone she likes to work when she’s visiting service members”. They didn’t like that it was Dolce e Gabbana, though.

    • Kelly says:

      I saw a video of this event, and to be fair, it was a windy day. Kate stepped out with her hair in place and the wind did the rest.

  6. Cecilia says:

    They way the keens have to do the bare minimum to get praised. So many people praised william for that tweet. And it was just yesterday that kate got praised for wearing an appropriate dress and jewelry to philips funeral.

    • Mac says:

      I’m giving William a pass on the super league. It was a huge deal in Europe and a real threat to the future of small clubs.

      • The Hench says:

        One of the articles I read said that it was when “even Prince William” waded in that the various chairmen/owners finally realised that the brown stuff was really hitting the whirly thing.

  7. Lauren says:

    That coat is ok, pretty much in theme with the racist spirit of the RF. But that neckline needs the hair to be in an updo otherwise it just gets lost in the hair. If Keen Guevara is pregnant again that means that she will be out of sight, with some rare sightings here and there, pretty much for the next year and a half at least, and with the current conditions of the RF (down to very few visible members), I don’t know if they can afford that.

    • Saucy&Sassy says:

      Lauren, Because the coat is double breasted and has those very shiny buttons, it adds weight. Take a look at her neck (what you can see) and I think you’ll agree she hasn’t gained weight. Also I think there is something going on with her cheeks. I don’t know if she’s done one procedure too many or what. Wearing a mask really hides a lot. I think she simply didn’t spend as much time on her makeup, certainly not as much time as she spent for the funeral. Sunlight can be harsh and that’s what’s going on here.

      It’s interesting to me that sometimes she hides the shadows under her eyes and sometimes she doesn’t. I think she does things like this deliberately.

  8. Cecilia says:

    I find it extremely weird that william is tagging along to all of her engagements all of a sudden

    • L84Tea says:

      I think he’s knee deep in paranoia since the interview and is being a total control freak right now. Like Kaiser said, I think he’s worried about someone asking Kate questions.

    • swirlmamad says:

      Clearly she can’t be trusted to not blurt (or more likely, mumble) something that will cause the whole house of cards to come tumbling down!

      • Cecilia says:

        Or it could be to show a “united front”. You know? Remember their video for st patricks day? I saw a bunch of comments about the state of their marriage and it wasn’t good. So maybe thats why?

      • swirlmamad says:

        @cecilia, I’m sure that’s part of it as well. It’s all smoke and mirrors with these two.

  9. Belli says:

    This new thing of The Other Brother tagging along to Kate’s events is… so weird.

    He really doesn’t trust her to say a single word, does he. The silent, meek, obedient duchess who knows her place. (Can you hear me retching?)

    • Cecilia says:

      I thought it weird too. Especially since it seems like he hates being there.

    • Lemons says:

      Kate, you in danger, girl!

      But in this case, she really could have seen this coming.

    • Heat says:

      I have been taking it like
      “See? I’m a doting husband, just like Harry! Look at me-look at us-look at MEEEE! I’m not a lying cheating philanderer. I’m Mr Keen!”

    • Gabby says:

      I wonder if he is tagging along to (a) control her; and (b) pad his number of engagements for the annual tally.

      Not letting her go out on her own and not letting her speak for herself drifts nto psychological abuse territory. The funeral being an outlier, her confidence appears to have atrophied.

  10. Tiffany says:




    Those two are not even living together let alone can pretend to be hot for one another to conceive.

  11. Zebz says:

    What is those weird lumps around Williams mouth.

  12. Harper says:

    Kate is probably feeling really smug right now. She chased off Meghan and Harry and was voted by the tabs as being Most Popular at the Funeral. There’s a video of this event and Will’s facial expressions are just so unpleasant. I can just imagine the negative energy he gives off.

  13. Kyliegirl says:

    They are so awkward together. The video of her getting into the simulator is hilarious. Will “guides” her but doesn’t touch her and she does a hold my purse move without looking back.

    • Belli says:

      And then he jokes, “this should be interesting” as she gets in.

      Every time we hear about Willy “joking” it’s with an edge of meanness to it.

      • Gail Hirst says:

        @Belli So it was with the love of my life. He called it sarcasm.
        He was also a drunk who chose the bottle over family
        So be it….

    • equality says:

      The entire video is awkward. The normal thing would have been to help her into the simulator but he stood back and seemed to be smirking (such as you can tell with a mask) while she awkwardly got in. She also isn’t doing her usual giant grin. Is that because of Will being with her, too much botox, Harry being gone or thinking it wouldn’t be appropriate after Phil’s death? (Although she did look happier at some moments during the funeral than here). She and Will mostly look like two people forced to stand together and pose. There is one weird shot of their hands clasped together in front of them, so basically a groin shot. Were their expressions so weird at that point that a groin shot seemed like a good idea?

    • Harper says:

      Her skirt is hiked up and her upper thigh is totally showing when she got into that simulator. She even jokes that she wasn’t dressed for it and tried to pull the skirt down. The poor man standing at her side probably got an eyeful of HRH again.

  14. Becks1 says:

    I don’t think she’s pregnant based on how she looked at the funeral – she looked the thinnest there that I think we’ve ever seen her. But here her face does look a bit fuller, so who knows? I doubt she’s pregnant though.

    It is interesting how she looks here compared to the funeral – much less “overdone.” I wonder why she didn’t just wear this coat for the funeral? Was she worried the gold buttons were too much so decided to sub in a pearl and diamond choker?

    • Seraphina says:

      Maybe she put on her best because she knew Harry would be at the funeral and at this event it was only Willy.
      Or maybe because she knew how heavily televised the funeral would be as opposed to this.
      Take your pick, either way she comes out looking bad.

      • anotherlily says:

        She had that evening-dress style coat specially made for the funeral. This re-worn coat was originally for early pregnancy so wearing it now disguises her thinness. The car close-up en-route to the funeral was posed and photoshopped by her own photographer (husband of one of her staff). At the funeral she had a mask and the church lighting was softer. Outdoors there were no unmasked close-ups.

        She has numerous black coats and didn’t need to get a new one made for the funeral. She is probably aware of the negative comments about her appearance at the funeral and speculation about her weight.

    • Ginger says:

      I agree. She looked very thin on Saturday. I think she was photoshopped and this is how she actually looks.

      • Becks1 says:

        She was definitely photoshopped on Saturday, but I think she’s wearing this coat to disguise how thin she is. She has a ton of black dresses/coats at this point and this is probably her least form-fitting, since she was pregnant when she wore it the first time, so I think she is wearing it more as a disguise.

      • Cessily says:

        I have been a professional photographer, the funeral shots were very professional.. the lighting and editing were done very well. With good lighting, can do wonders.. so it really makes me think whoever shot her photos knew where she should stand, angle her head and look. Especially compared to how photos of the others were not nearly as flattering, it seems truly cold to focus on ones look at a funeral but I guess that is important for popularity.

      • Cessily says:

        Isn’t she prone to severe morning sickness? My sister has that and always lost weight the first 6 months of her pregnancies. Like her or not it makes for a miserable hard pregnancy. I can not imagine going through it once let alone four times.
        Maybe they are appearing together to “be a team” like the Sussex’s? It’s a thought.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Cessily – yes, but she never loses weight, she steadily gains throughout a pregnancy. And because of the HG, they announce her pregnancies immediately and she stops working. so if she was pregnant, my guess is we would already know.

      • ShazBot says:

        My (maybe mean) conspiracy theory is that she doesn’t get HG, but just regular, run of the mill morning sickness, which also sucks. But it gives her an out from working, which we all know she hates. If she is pregnant now, I don’t think even they’d be dumb enough to try and usurp Philip’s death with a pregnancy announcement, so she’s just toughing it out for a little bit.

        That said, I don’t think baby #4 is a great idea for them (W’s environmentalism and previous comments on large families, royal family needs working members, more kids = more taxpayers money, etc.), but seeing as their only PR is pictures of their kids…that might outweigh the negatives for them.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        The HG claims were never true and KP haphazardly made a claim Of HG To explain why she drove hours by herself to a hospital where her favorite pap was waiting To shame William home from his trip with friends where she was not invited. They later said no such confirmation for HG.

        Kate has morning sickness with George for a few weeks and after was seen eating out, sledding, and gaining weight steadily. It was never an issue with Charlotte and lou. She may have cancelled work claiming sickness, but would be caught catching a flight for a vacation immediately after.

        Kate has healthy pregnancies. The facts have never disputed this.

    • Chrissy (The Original) says:

      She was forced to buy something new for he funeral, dontchaknow? She had to get something new to go with borrowed jewelry. We don’t want to insult the Queen by teaming them with a repeat. So thoughtful to think of HM’s feelings /s. (gag!)

      • Dee says:

        Even though the bow on the dress, the necklace, the dangling earrings, the netting on the hat, etc. were all way too much.

    • Lorelei says:

      @Becks no way she would have worn a repeat for that funeral — for her it was basically all one big (televised worldwide) photo op and she was READY. She went big with the bow and the jewelry, and due to the amount of praise she’s getting from her fans for how she looked that day, I guess she succeeded. She knew that people would be looking at these photos for years because of the Harry situation so she went *all out*

      ETA: Wiglet Watcher, there are photos of her driving herself to the hospital? For some reason I do not remember this at all. Do you happen to have a link? I’m curious now!

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        There are reports of Kate driving herself from KP (which was in shambles at the time) Middleton approved narrative and from the pap Tanna. He always had the inside scoop and the royal rota took cues from him at the time. He waited by the side of a side entrance and caught her arrival and entrance. She passed a few hospitals to reach this one and apparently drove the whole way without needing stops.
        I’m not on any platforms, but if you went back on his twitter to this time I’m sure stuff is still up.

  15. Jay says:

    It does seem like they don’t trust her on her own. Huh, and I heard yesterday that she was just starting to mature in her role after only a decade.

    Has she visited this patronage regularly? I only saw the Xmas announcement and one visit in baby blue since. It seems like someone is trying to remind us that they are picking up where Phillip left off, carrying on. A bit obvious, but not the worst they could do.

    William apparently considers himself a PR genius, so maybe he is afraid somebody will ask whether their family is racist and he’ll have to prompt her with the correct response: “Very much NOT racist. The NOT is important!”

  16. fishface says:

    What??? No big flashy, trashy jewellery today?

    • BayTampaBay says:

      fishface, I think we both agree the pearl and diamond choker worn by Kate to Edinburgh’s funeral was not appropriate. However, in no way is that choker trashy.

      I am also sure we agree that Kate does not know how to wear jewelry and has no competent guidance when it comes to styling a look.

  17. Eleonor says:

    ” I think it speaks to how little William has going on, patronage-wise, and how the Keens are terrified of Kate being asked a difficult question.”
    OR Willnot is scared his wife can steal all “his” spotlight.

  18. S808 says:

    Crying at him escorting her to all her engagements now, they’re so scared of her getting asked a hard question lmaoo

    • JT says:

      Does she get asked questions though? I thought there was a rule where the RRs aren’t allowed to do that? Maybe I’m wrong, but regardless it is weird. Does he not have anything going on?

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Kate has absolutely said the wrong thing aka the truth before.
        She told us William isn’t really around his kids a lot and they don’t see him often.
        She told us when she moved in with her parents for 6 months after George was born that William was not present.
        She has made comments here and there that smash open the narrative that he’s an attentive father.

  19. Unionsnack says:

    I don’t really think she’s pregnant. She might just wanted to give some rumours to talk – the fourth child means that William lies in her bed. But I think they won’t have fourth due to hundreds of reasons and the main one is William. Even one was enough for him.

    Btw this is the second *preggo vibes* coat, the first one was at Westminster abbey. But there was no bump at the funeral. My guess is that she just tries to warm up the crowd with *uh, she must be pregnant, William loves her, what a nice family*.

  20. Woke says:

    Something is going on with her face.
    William think he did something with those 2 tweets ? The outcome would’ve been the same without it.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      The expression on her face is that of a very unhappy woman being pulled in at least two opposite directions.

      • Jais says:

        The hints of unhappiness remind of princess Charlene’s expressions around the time of her marriage to Albert. Not sure it’s the same but gives me similar vibes.

  21. Cessily says:

    I guess I’m confused, so they are still in an official mourning but doing Royal duties? When does the official mourning end?
    Also I truly hate to be picky but she truly could benefit with a scary or collar that neckline of the coat does her no favors. I read “she honored the queen by wearing her borrowed earrings”. I don’t know why I found that so amusing.. family borrowing my jewelry isn’t to honor me, since I usually have to track it down to get it back… I get that it is very different but chalk it up to a 4am wake up..
    I hope they both continue to uphold the patronage’s they hold, the charities they represent deserve an effort and attention.
    Is PW getting credit for saving football from the super league now? Just wondered if this was going to be spun as his success.

  22. carryrose says:

    Lol she is not pregnant. She looks she drank so much last night. Her face looks like alcohol cheeks than food cheeks. Look at her pregnant before. Also this is Kate without chris jackson photoshopped. If she is pregnant she will announce soon so she will be excused from work. If she is pregnant I think courtiers in bp will go ballistic. Already with Sussex down and Philip death they are pushing chuck and cam , will and cathy for more work. Queen is old and they are giving her some space from work. If cathy gets knocked up few younger brits who likes her will go ballistic because in Britain after two children the government will cut attendances. Remember cathy fans are most right winger american or middle eastern who wont pay for her. This clearly shows she dress up for her brother in law which is sick.

    • Alexandria says:

      Eh right wingers can’t think. American right-wingers have no problem paying for Trump adult children. Why would it be any different in the UK? They would celebrate the 4th child parallel with the Queen (top symbol of white supremacy) and that it delegates woke Harry to 7th.

    • Basi says:

      Carryrose— is it true the rumor is they are both heavy drinkers?

      • carryrose says:

        I dont know abt cathy drinking but she is heavy smoker. Will has drinking problem though. I dont know he smokes . His skin looks way better than Kate even though he doesnt have any skincare. Kate on other hand is very much into looks her skin has spoiled because of smoking and tanning. I know many people smoke to stay thin which explains her thinnest. Or maybe her cheek filler got dissolved. Her cheeks looks like tbbt kaley cuco sister with fake cheeks filler. This clearly shows she has done so much to her face over the years. I love her mediocre stans says it’s because stress. I mean I have seen doctors who works stressful job looks way better than her. She has everything in her feet and she looks like this ??

      • Lemons says:

        @carryrose, This is so true. These people do not live truly stressful lives. But they don’t live healthy lives, so it makes sense if their vices are smoking and drinking. Her cheek fillers are dissolving, that’s all we’re seeing here.

      • Lolo says:

        I’ve heard the rumour. It has been going around the non-English speaking tabloids and someone mentioned it on Twitter.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        During the waity years she was a well know party girl – clubbing most weekends and countless pap shots of her falling drunk out of clubs/bars and into cabs. She was said to have been able to drink William under the table.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Kate has been caught with cigarettes in hand or in her purse for years. William has been caught smoking many times. They both have drank, but Kate may have dropped it for calorie reasons. The rumors late could drink William under the table were just that. Rumors. Just because Kate drank and was drunk a lot doesn’t mean she can hold her liquor.

        Some of the pics from the chateau and flight there showed late smoking, but were swiftly removed preemptive to the lawsuit.

      • Ann says:

        To me she looks like a smoker. It’s hard to stay that thin if you drink. But she might be an occasional binger, so a hangover isn’t out of the question. Unlike others I think her hair looks fine, but her face looks really tired. And no, I don’t think she’s pregnant.

      • Monica says:

        OMG, I knew it! I thought the other day that she looks like she smokes. She’s at the age where habits start to show in one’s face.

  23. Onerous says:

    Wait – is the pandemic over in England? Not a mask in sight!

  24. Sue Denim says:

    can we talk about his shoes…? ugh…maybe w jeans but not w this… also, does he get credit when he goes to her events? maybe it’s that…

    • BayTampaBay says:

      Sue Denim, I will give Kate a pass on the shoes as she is standing in grass. Grass and great killer shoes really do not like each other.

      • Sue Denim says:

        But his shoes — brown suede slip-ons, w a navy suit? is this a thing?

      • Lorelei says:

        @Sue Denim his brown shoes with the navy suit are hideous. I don’t even usually notice things like that since the men’s clothes are typically so boring, but that looked really bad.

  25. Liz version 700 says:

    They both look hungover and rumpled.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      BPwBt and KKKate look to me as if they spent the previous evening fighting late into the night.

      • JT says:

        Maybe over her behavior at the funeral? I finally took a look at the footage and home girl was posing up a storm in there. Nobody else has the shots that Kate has. I could see William being irritated over it. He certainly seemed to be ignoring her during the funeral. It could give credence to The Lone Ranger Funeral Truther ( love this phrase).

        Or it could be all of those stories over the past few days embiggening Kate. If they are ridiculous to us, they have to seem down right absurd to the royals. Can you imagine Charles or Anne reading those stories? It’s gotta be straight up embarrassing. William doesn’t seem to hold Kate in any great esteem as it is.

      • Jais says:

        Maybe he was upset about the posing but also the way she strait up slowed down to wait on Harry as he was talking to the archbishop. William wanted the story to be that he iced out Harry while Kate wanted to be peacemaker. If she had matched her husband’s pace and not blatantly slowed down, then her and Will could’ve walked ahead and Harry could have perhaps walked with Anne and her husband.

      • Liz version 700 says:

        Yes, I could absolutely believe that. They look miserable. I bet there is some terrible fighting in Norfolk

      • Beach Dreams says:

        They do kind of give off that “just came off of a long, bitter argument” vibe, especially in the video of this event. For someone who puts so much stock into her appearance, she looks very disheveled. She’s looked more put-together for her casual outdoorsy engagements.

      • The Hench says:

        I suspect that one of the reasons Carole and Kate can get away with these ridiculous PR fluff pieces is because the rest of the Royals despise the press and therefore don’t deign to read the papers. They probably see it as beneath them and in that space Carole can frolic whilst we all scratch our heads and wonder how Charles and William don’t do anything about the Monarchy apparently is only surviving thanks to Kate the Rock.

      • Amy Too says:

        Maybe they fought and she was up late screaming and crying and that’s why she looks all bloated and puffy and they both looked pissed off, and then maybe she tried to get out of this engagement and refused to get ready for it, but William won out in the end and dragged her to it, and that’s why she looks so ruffled and unkempt with bad hair and the ugly coat. She was likely throwing a fit and wanted to blow it off because she seems to do this thing where she refuses to work and hides out for weeks when she’s getting bad press or is mad at William, but he decided that they HAD to be seen to be working for whatever reason: less royals to do work, wanting to specifically go to this one since it was a Philip patronage, too many rumors about their marriage lately, needing to distract from the Oprah interview still, he’s mad about her preening and photoshopped glamour shots at the funeral and wants to distract from that, he wants to distract from the Kate is a peacemaker stories because he wants to go with “William is still icing Harry out,” whatever. Maybe that’s why he’s always going with her lately, she won’t go unless he forces her to go and drives her there himself and goes in with her. He’s been at most of her engagements since the Oprah interview. The Oprah interview uncovering her mean-girling is exactly the sort of thing she would have hidden out from, refusing to work unless she was given something in exchange like a new order from the Queen, a fancy vacation, new clothes and jewelry, or even a new baby.

      • Dl says:

        @JT. I didn’t watch the funeral but watched CBS coverage on YouTube. Skipped to the end. Willnot said something to Cannot and then you suddenly see Beatrice Eugenie their hubbies even Andrew for a bit just walking. But if you look, Andrew,Edo, several others glance back like checking on something. Then Sophie and co are next to Harry and Willnot with Kate like in the center of Sophie little group. Then Kate with Sophie little group are behind Willnot with Cannot wiping her eyes. Didn’t look like either brother turned around at all

    • Robin says:

      They probably got drunk together, but I don’t think they rumpled together!

  26. Blanca says:

    Sorry but she looks so old.

  27. GuestWho says:

    Could he not find the shoes that went with that suit?

    She is looking a little rough around the edges here. Clearly being the rock of the monarchy is wearing on the poor sausage.

  28. Gendaphool says:

    I just noticed the W&C Kensington Palace logo. Looks messy. Isn’t this blatant copying of the H&M Sussex logo? Is this a new development?

    • JT says:

      I don’t know if they always had this logo or if this is a recent change, but it does look like H&M’s.

    • Becks1 says:

      No that’s been their logo all along I think, but they just started using it (a month ago? two months ago?) on their IG and Twitter.

      • Lorelei says:

        I think maybe it’s just being used here as a placeholder, temporarily, after they changed it for Philip’s death? They probably didn’t want to go back to a smiley, “happy” family photo too soon after the funeral. Which is ironic because Kate has used this death/funeral for her own PR purposes in literally every other way.

      • Harper says:

        All the Royals changed their Insta profile photos to the letters logo when Philip died. I’m sure when it comes down it’ll be replaced by the glamour shot of Kate in the car on the way to his funeral.

    • Nic919 says:

      They had designed a joint monogram along with a separate one with C and another with W around the time of the wedding. It did not seem to be used much in social media until now though. Charles and Camilla have a joint one as well but C and C looks better than this one which seems like a messy mashup.

  29. Kitty says:

    I thought de camera zooming in on them both clutching hands tightly when photographed was interesting !

  30. swirlmamad says:

    I think this coat is a visual accompaniment to the US Weekly “4th Baby?!?!?????>!!” article from a month or so ago. I would be shocked if she’s actually pregnant — as someone said above, this is to give the illusion that yes, she and William still sleep in the same bed (yeah right) and do the things that would make a fourth child possible.

    Edited to add: I try not to comment on her body size one way or another, because I do feel there’s something icky about that. BUT — perhaps this coat is a way to cover up after she got a lot of commentary on how skinny she is from the funeral outfit of doom.

  31. Shawna says:

    Stoking pregnancy rumors for sympathy/distraction

  32. Eenie Googles says:

    This is very old lady looking.

  33. Basi says:

    No longer a Kate fan after all the years of disappointment waiting for her to show her worth but mostly since Meghan came along and highlighted the lazy mean girl she is.

    That said can somebody please explain to me what’s meant by she was photo shopped at the funeral? Making her look thinner? Or to give her more perfect skin?

    • equality says:

      The photo was altered to make her skin look smoother in her forehead and neck area. Her eyes also looked larger and less baggy than in these photos. I think she had a professional makeup job for the funeral also.

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Yeah you can always tell the difference when she does her make up herself or has a pro do it – the panda eyes give away that she’s done it. When a pro does it she looks soo much better.

    • Becks1 says:

      Her face was definitely touched up – she had no lines or bags around her eyes, her forehead was smooth – it’s really obvious when you compare it to pictures like this. It was good photoshopping, it wasn’t like what People mag does to her sometimes on their covers where she looks unrecognizable, but it was definitely photoshop.

    • Nic919 says:

      The face in the Chris Jackson photo did not have any of the under eye darkness or the lines that are in her face today. It’s was blended to hell and so seeing what she really looks like is a bit jarring.

      • Jais says:

        Am 40 now and have similar bags under my eyes to Kate. Sleep and diet can affect but it’s also hereditary as my mom also has. When I first saw that car pic I was like whoa how did she do that? I actually wanted to know cuz if it really was a miracle cream, I would’ve tried it lol. But then when everyone here pointed out the photoshopping it was like oh yeah that makes sense. Photoshopping for funeral pics is kind of undignified.

  34. Digital Unicorn says:

    She’s still too thin to be with baby no. 4 – the puffy face is I think the recent botox settling. She looks rough AF, even under all that makeup – seems that the press hasn’t bothered to photoshop her to within an inch of her life for this event. The Sarah Everard virgil photos she looked like this as well.

    Plus she is becoming her mother – they look soooo alike in these photo’s.

  35. Over it says:

    I think she is definitely pregnant, although I should not be looking. Now I read

  36. Amy Bee says:

    I don’t know why they’re afraid of Kate going on an engagement alone. The press are not going to ask her any questions. KP set up that Q&A with William the last time. Plus, the royal rota does everything to protect her from criticism. Btw, I don’t think she’s pregnant.

  37. IRMAVEP says:

    ‘Hands up those Air Cadets who look pleased to see their ‘patron’ Katey Brass-Buttons and her dour minder Willy-in-a-suit arriving for an ‘inspection’ visit? ‘Anyone’? ‘Anyone?’ Seriously, has there ever been a more dour group of people assembled to greet a celeb/member of the RF? Girl on the left of the pics in camouflage gear, for example, looks hostile. And check out the dial on Wills in the main pic. It’s a ‘Now swallow your medicine, it’s good for you’, face – only bettered by Kate’s over-done expressions’ of ‘interest.’ Everyone there looks like they’d prefer to be somewhere else. Imagine had it been Harry as patron. He’d have had that group laughing and engaging and eager to tell him what they’ve been doing, etc. [I’m leaving Meghan out of this gig, as she wasn’t a member of the RF in 2015, and she’s pregnant and in CA now]

  38. TQ says:

    Keen Guevara with the military cosplay coat for the cadets. Sigh.

    And would not be surprised if she’s pregnant again. The rage monster would welcome the media distraction and favorable coverage. No more tricky racism questions!

    And if she is pregnant, would explain the lack of freshness in her look as no new botox, etc.

  39. Over it says:

    In that last pic, the one with the cadet closet to waity is thinking. I see you Karen keen. Yes I see you

  40. Anne K says:

    The contrast between pictures and seeing her on video is jarring. She looks nothing like her pictures.

  41. IRMAVEP says:

    Why, oh why, could she not have arrived alone in the back of a long black Bentley, wearing her lithesome dominatrix funeral attire? I see her posed like a femme-fatale, leaning against the wing of an old warplane, gazing up through her black veil and a haze of smoke to the lowering sky, where Wills’s bi-plane can just be glimpsed flying westward to CA, where he intends to beg forgiveness from his wronged brother and his wife. Then, taking a long last drag on her cigarette, she lowers her black mask back into position and walks away slowly, into the mist…… Alas, only in a Weimar Republic film..

  42. Maria says:

    Either their marriage is collapsing or her face is.

    The coat looks boxy to me. She may be pregnant but I would doubt William will ever want another. I feel like if they were going to have a fourth they’d have done it by now. Plus, we wouldn’t be seeing her.

    • BayTampaBay says:

      How many CBitches believe that Louis was the price Baldy paid for his Rose gardening hobby?

      How many CBitches believe Wills’ Rose gardening hobby started during KKKeen’s pregnancy with Louis?

      • Sofia says:

        I thought Louis was for the dad dancing in Switzerland and the Victorian Order (whatever she got) that Kate got was for being silent and accepting the affair. Publicly at least.

        Just what I think

      • Becks1 says:

        I go back and forth. I don’t think we would have gotten the “rural rivals” story if the affair was well and truly over by that point in time. So that was March 2019. TheHench has said that she has heard that the affair lasted for 3 years (may still be ongoing, we don’t know.) So let’s say it ended spring 2019, maybe spring 2020 (I have seen on twitter that it was “hot and heavy” until lockdown, but that’s just twitter, not a reliable source, ha.) so that puts it starting around spring 2016 or 2017 at the latest. That would make sense with Louis being the makeup baby. I wouldn’t want to have unprotected sex if my husband was actively having an affair, but these people are different.

        We heard from Meghan that Kate was going through some things leading up to the wedding – she could have just said “Kate was really pregnant and emotional” but she didn’t. so that also makes me think the affair was going strong during the pregnancy – maybe Kate found out about it at that point?

        I think my ultimate theory is that Louis is the makeup baby, and that Kate really thought that the affair was over (remember how happy she looked after Louis was born? Not just in pictures with him, but in general?) and then she started looking very drawn and worn out at appearances and that was when her weight started to dip even more (remember her in the green dress at Wimbledon with Meghan?) so that makes me think that the affair was not over and Kate just thought it was, then we had the church walk with rose in January 2020 – I think that was sending a signal to Kate, that this was how it was going to be.

      • JT says:

        I believe it. It was said he only wanted 2 children, which seems to be the norm amongst the royals. The queen is the outlier with four kids. Their marriage probably hasn’t been the strongest before Louis but her pregnancy with him is most definitely tied to Rose. The timeline fits. The fact that they are barely able to fake liking each other is probably due to William not being able to garden anymore. Can you imagine if Will pulled a Peter Philips and had a COVID booty call?

        Even one of those People articles said this is the most time they’ve spent together in a while.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        I’m torn. On the one hand, like @Sofia I always assumed that the infamous ski trip was the trigger for Kate getting to have Louis. But then as @Becks1 said, the recent comments from The Hench might point to Rose being the real motive for the 3rd pregnancy. It would actually make a lot of sense regarding Kate’s weird, unhappy expressions at the state dinner in 2017, which Rose also attended.

      • Becks1 says:

        @BeachDreams – was that the event where she was in that ugly lace dress with that huge necklace that didnt really work with the dress and she really did look unhappy the whole time, I remember one reporter said it was because she was “thinking about Diana and contemplating the life of her late MIL” (she was wearing the lovers knot tiara) and I laughed.

      • Jaded says:

        @BTB I believe you’re right. William getting papped dad-dancing in a bar with some hot blondes is one thing but carrying on a 3-year affair under the radar with someone she considered a friend is vile and no make-up baby is going to save that marriage. What you see on her unphotoshopped face is misery and stress.

      • The Hench says:

        Ooh – good question. So – things I know:
        1. July 2017 – the Mirror ran at the time innocuous but now looks like a siren going off weird Rose Hanbury story. She sat next to Harry at his first state banquet and, ostensibly the story was about him but it actually went on and on about “firm friend” of the Cambridges, Rose Hanbury. Looking back at it with hindsight, it was basically saying that Rose was having special cuddles with Wills all the way back in 2017.
        2. That the affair was a long term three year deal – but we don’t know when it actually started – could have been as far back as 2016 – but the Mirror story tells us it was happening 2017.
        3. Louis born 23rd April 2018.
        4. May 2018 CryGate
        5. Late 2018 was when the smear campaign seemed to kick into gear on Meghan.
        6. March 2019 the Rural Rival story breaks – which was Kate trying to ‘freeze out’ Rose.
        7. Jan 6th 2020 – the Sandringham pap walk with Rose and husband in tow and they’re all friends again story.

        Now – things I am just randomly guessing at from the above:
        There was a weird story in 2017 that Kate couldn’t have sex whilst pregnant with Louis – obvs sex during pregnancy IS possible AND Kate would not have been pregnant with Louis (quite) when the Mirror ran their weird July 2017 article about Rose but it’s odd that such a weird, intimate detail should be out there. Nothing of the sort appeared during her previous pregnancies so I’m going to go with the affair started early 2017 and Wills cheated on pregnant Kate all the way through.

        I agree with Becks1 about how happy Kate looked just after Louis was born in April 2018 so I’m going with Kate believing for whatever reason that the affair was over – probably because she was told it was by William. She probably saw/sees Rose as a real threat so thinking that they were done was probably much more of a relief that with previous sidepieces.

        That he had cheated on her during the pregnancy may have been what she was dealing with when cry gate happened with Meghan – hence Meghan’s kindness around the situation and “going through some things” remark and then Wills promised Kate it was over mid 2018 – cue radiant Kate for a few months.
        Late 2018 – Kate finds out it’s back on or never stopped – probably via the media getting wind of it and Meghan stories start appearing from KP to keep the BM beast quiet. Kate starts looking scarily skinny and drawn.
        March 2019 – the Rural Rivals thing hits the headlines – looks like Kate tried to ice out Rose after finding the affair was still on. As we know, this backfires spectacularly.
        Rest of 2019 – Meghan fed to the media wolves by KP in exchange for keeping the affair quiet.
        December 2019 – shrug gate. Kate clearly FURIOUS with Will for whatever reason.
        Jan 2020 – church pap walk – did Carole and Kate decide to behave like the aristocracy and accept the affair? But even if they did, marriage clearly in trouble and remains so.
        2020 – pandemic hits and affair is curtailed as a result. I say ‘curtailed’ rather than finished as the rash of Kate PR suggests all not well.

        Phew. I did not mean that to be so long. Apologies.

      • swirlmamad says:

        I think the Rose dabbling started while she was pregnant with Louis….or actually, I think that was when Kate found out about it. More probable that it started before then, and maybe it got more intense while Kate was pregnant (I already think Will is awful, but this would make him despicable, as much as I dislike Kate). This would make sense when you think back to the interview and Meghan alluded to Kate “going through something” which caused her to act a fool over the damn tights/crying saga. She was dealing with mega postpartum emotions and upset over the cheating coming to light — not that that gives her a pass in the slightest for taking her problems out on Meghan.

        ETA – @The Hench you said it all much better than I did! ITA with everything you said (and very interesting tea).

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        William has been caught with other women before. And he’s lived apart from his family for some time. Even go back to the RAF cottage days when Carole and Kate randomly packed up her things and she lived with her parents. Quick PR said there were rats and Kate was gifted KP apartment. Which she declined and chose the apt that had a charity holding a lease… but I digress. They’ve lived separate lives for years and he’s enjoyed female company for years and Kate has expected big payouts to keep up appearances for years.

        Rose was never the first or most significant or threatening affair.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        @Becks1: Yep, that’s the one. She was wearing that pink Marchesa monstrosity and looking pretty ill-humored at the table.

        @The Hench: Great post and timeline, and reading it reminded me of Will and Kate’s Poland & Germany trip, which happened pretty soon after the banquet. That trip sticks out because of the obvious tension between them (those infamous pictures of her scowling in that white dress) and Kate’s little quip of “we’ll have to have more babies” at one of the events. I also don’t think she was pregnant in July 2017 (she drank at multiple engagements on tour), but perhaps Rose was already enough of an issue for her to press William for another child.

      • carryrose says:

        I agree with all the theories. But I think Kate got Louis because William was publicly shamed by press for dad dancing and Middleton ran poor Kate pr . Up to that point William doesnt want third kid. Only kate wants and she got louis for dad dancing. She must really thought Louis will bring William to his sense.but in the end louis is too much for William that’s what it drove william to cheating. I dont excuse cheating but sometimes men do to get back at their wife. I mean child is not the dress. If the partner doesn’t child you should have respect their wish. I also remember charles started cheating after harry born because chuck wanted a girl.

        There are many examples when comes to children if men dont want child you should not force on them because if it was normal family the guy like this would leave their wives because three child is too much for them to handle.

        Louis birth caused more damage than good to their marraige. William is not even devoted to charlotte. From picture and everything he prefers George and Kate prefers louis. Poor charlotte all alone.

        I dont think the affair ended. I think that’s where William got covid. I think for william you want Louis so be it and dont except me to end the affair.

      • Becks1 says:

        @TheHench @BeachDreams et al.

        Okay so its falling into place now. Affair started in 2017, Kate knew about it by that summer, she was probably told at various points that it had stopped, she finds out each time that it hasn’t, and then by late 2018 the press knows about it and they are starting to ask (maybe that’s how Kate found out it never stopped after Louis was born), she thinks “crap they can’t find out about the dress fitting” so feeds them the false story, and the smear campaign is off and running. But we all noted that it seemed to kick up a notch in the spring, with the exile them to Africa stories etc – and so that ties in with the Rural Rivals story, Kate was trying to punish rose because she couldn’t get William to stop the affair. Rose was like, nah, that’s not how this game is played, and then the Cambridges had to feed the Sussexes to the wolves to cover up the story.

        This really makes me think that Rose leaked the “rural rivals” story as a power move over Kate.

      • The Hench says:

        @Beach Dreams – good point on Poland – I’d forgotten about that. @swirlmamad – thank you!

        OK – my final theory/question for today – do we think Kate deliberately got pregnant with Louis without Will’s consent/knowledge as the one thing she could pull over Rose? Beach Dreams referenced the “have to have more babies” remark so it was on her mind. Maybe she thought this might be the one thing to pull him back?

      • Becks1 says:

        @TheHench – ooh, interesting theory. It wasn’t so much about being a “makeup baby” as much as it was a “you can’t leave me baby” to tie him to the marriage even more. (kind of like what the mom does at the end of the Nanny Diaries.) Hmm.

        Now someone today or yesterday raised a good point about the EACH gala at Houghton Hall – there must be a lot of those events in the area, and that’s the only one they’ve attended. Granted it was for EACH and Kate couldn’t really avoid going, but still. Maybe the affair was already going on as early as then? (that was summer 2016). so maybe it did start a lot earlier than we are thinking and was over by spring 2019 and thats why Kate felt she could then cut Rose out, because the affair was over?

      • Lorelei says:

        @TheHench, this is something I always wonder about when the topic comes up and someone reminds us that William doesn’t want any more children. Unless he’s had a vasectomy, it’s really under Kate’s control. Obviously it would be an awful thing to do, but she could easily just claim she had been taking her BC pills and “oops she has no idea how this happened!”

        It’s a terrible thing to do to everyone involved, especially the poor child who wasn’t wanted by his/her father, but if she gets desperate enough…? If she thinks her position is in jeopardy? I don’t know.

        Right now her PR is all over the place and a pregnancy and baby would buy her a ton of goodwill (not from everyone, but for a lot of royalists, people who love the pomp & ceremony, etc.) because finally, some happy news from that family, and an excuse to not work for two more years. It’s not out of the realm of possibility, and haven’t people said she wanted to emulate the Queen by having four?

        Who knows. Her life is a hot mess and all of this speculation confirms that I wouldn’t give up my privacy for all of the tiaras in the world.

        ETA: if it is in fact true that she gets this genuinely upset about William’s infidelity, which would explain crygate, it says to me that it’s not just about the title and the status— she really loves him. If all she cared about was bagging the prince and becoming a princess, she already won and she wouldn’t care what he did or with who.

      • Becks1 says:

        @ Lorelei – there’s a difference between your husband having affairs and having a three year (or longer) affair with a neighbor that you thought was your friend. My guess is Kate is okay with the former, not the latter.

        I also assume they aren’t sleeping together anymore, so there’s little chance of a fourth pregnancy.

        Watch, they’ll announce her pregnancy tomorrow lol

      • Amy Too says:

        Kate being told she can’t have sex with Will while pregnant with Louis could be because she knew he was cheating then, her doctor knew, and she didn’t want to risk contracting any STIs while pregnant since some of them can affect or be transferred to the baby and some of them can’t be treated while you’re pregnant. That just seems like such a weird and very private/personal tidbit to get out: Kate couldn’t have sex during her pregnancy, so I’m wondering if it was some very subtle hint about the affair/way to yank everyone’s chain into getting more info on the Sussexes or pics of the kids in exchange for silence.

      • A says:

        @The Hench, you have a keen eye. I also distinctly remember when the Marchioness of Cholmondeley showed up to that banquet, where she sat next to Harry, wearing that tiara. Everyone was looking at her, and asking about who she was. The explanation at the time for why she was there was that her husband was the Great Lord Chamberlain, and I remember at the time that people were really intrigued by how she was seated next to Harry, whether they were an item, etc. Until they found out that she was married, ofc.

        But that was the first I’d ever heard of her. Imagine my surprise when she wound up being the infamous rural rival, LMAO. I remember reading the article at the time and being like–wait, that’s her?!? The lady sitting beside Prince Harry at that one banquet??!!

        Yeah. It was intriguing af how she got in those shots. It was also the first state banquet that Harry ever attended, so it was inevitable that the cameras would be on him at the time. And she just so happened to be sitting beside him? Wearing that eye-catching tiara? At a state banquet that Will and Kate were both attending as well?

        Yeah. Interesting pieces of business all around.

  43. bamaborn says:

    Looks more like the Botox is settling in giving the face a more “buttery” look.

  44. Aaliyah says:

    I don’t like to speculate but if she was pregnant, she wouldn’t be ” working. ” That’s all I have to say :/

  45. Emily says:

    Ooooof they do not look happy. My jaw hurts just looking at all that clenching.

  46. Likeyoucare says:

    She deserves her face.
    Stress, guilty conscience, afraid of the backlash and waiting for the other shoe to drop (for willie divorcing her) are showing on her face.
    She needs to get help.

  47. TigerMcQueen says:

    Watching the video, all I can say is that Bill and Cathy look like they’re two people who hardly know each other but forced to stand together.

    She definitely looks different here than she did at the funeral. Photoshop is a hell of a thing.

  48. Plums says:

    well she doesn’t look so worryingly thin here, so it’s either the cut of the coat or the funeral photos were ‘shopped.

    She’s looking more like her mother every day, tbh.

  49. MerlinsMom1018 says:

    Here in Texas the expression is ” she looks like she got rode hard and put up wet”

    • bamaborn says:

      Oh, my! That phrase came to mind, but resisted saying it. Lol

    • So_LacVert says:

      My Mother, from Northern Ireland, used to say “looks like she was ridden hard and put away wet.” I had not heard this phrase spoken outside of her family. I thought it was an Irish thing. Small world!

      • MerlinsMom1018 says:

        And here I thought it was a southern thing only!!!!! So cool that others know it too!!!!!!

    • Melissa says:

      That would imply that they had a wild night between the sheets….

  50. bamaborn says:

    TRUTH hurts, doesn’t it?

  51. My3cents says:


  52. Beach Dreams says:

    I agree with the other posters saying she might’ve worn this coat to deflect from her frail appearance. You can tell how baggy and loose this coat is on her when she gets into the simulator in the video of this visit. I think the photos are just giving off an optical illusion.

    Also…I wonder if something happened before this engagement. She looks like she had to be dragged out to do this event, like she tried to do one of her last-minute cancellations and was told ‘no’. I say this because she looks unusually unkempt and sullen, even with the smiling. I doubt Philip has anything to do with it since she turned his funeral into her own sideshow.

    • Nic919 says:

      I agree and I wonder if that’s why William went with her. It is almost like he is monitoring her.

    • swirlmamad says:

      Perhaps it’s a repeat of that time not too long ago when she canceled — remember it was an evening engagement, and she didn’t show up last minute and they said it had something to do with the kids, but that they weren’t sick (seemed like a sloppily put together excuse at the time). Some drama may have gone down and she might’ve tried to pull the same with this engagement and said she wasn’t going, and Will was like, the hell you aren’t — you WILL go and I’m going with you to make sure you stay in line. It sounds so icky and dysfunctional and abusive even writing it out, but it IS completely plausible that this is how these two interact and operate. The negativity is just leaping out of these photos. Just a mess.

      • Becks1 says:

        I could kind of see that happening; the whole reason for this visit is because it was Philip’s…not patronage, I can’t think of the right word, but he had Kate’s position for decades I think before she got it in 2015 – so this was a lot about honoring Philip and his work, and I can see if she tried to bail at the last minute William being like “NOPE!”

  53. CrystalBall says:

    Possibly she is quite unhappy that she isn’t wearing anything new to this event. No new jewelry, no new clothes. So there was nothing in it for her. Not how she likes things done!

    • MerlinsMom1018 says:

      Or she could just be unhappy with the excessive amount of time she has had to spend with william lately

  54. Watson says:

    Wow. Im shocked that this is a coat from her pregnancy days because it’s still very small. Beautiful classic coat, and i like the gold buttons.

    I am also shocked at how different she looks when not photoshopped. I am starting to feel bad for the woman despite how unlikeable she is.

  55. swirlmamad says:

    The more I look, especially at the first photo, the more I feel like that coat is too big and swallowing her up. That’s why it doesn’t look like it fits right and is kind of voluminous, giving the “hiding a bump” vibes. If you click on the link back to the event where she first wore it and she WAS pregnant, it even fit her better then — there’s definition to the waist area. Now it just seems like it’s hanging on her. As several others have said, there’s no way she can go from rail-thin last weekend to a pregnancy bump not even a week later. And she wouldn’t have worn such a form-fitting outfit to the funeral if she was pregnant. I still think this is in response to the surprise at the way she looked and was dressed last weekend.

  56. KG says:

    She looks exhausted. Who knows what else is going on behind the scenes.

  57. Robin says:

    As I predicted, she looks far worse than ever. The car photo was a complete sham. She has emerged from lockdown looking awful. I don’t know whether she is full-on depressed; ill through not eating (she looks very thin) and her face is falling in tone; or whether she’s early stages pregnant and feeling dreadful. This may be a personal glue baby for her and William, or it may be a glue baby for the whole of the damn monarchy. Either way, no wonder she looks utterly worn out. The magic dust of the funeral soon blew away.

  58. Amelia says:

    Wearing D&G when they are being criticised for their anti Asian racism and bigotry is not a good look. You claim you aren’t racist but then you turn around and do this? Wearing their clothes of also silent complicity to their actions.

    • Lottie says:

      Agreed – a tone-deaf choice when surely she has plenty of black coats to choose from.

  59. Carolind says:

    In Britain, people do not usually wear masks except when in indoor public places.

    I always thought the plan was for Kate to have 3 kids. She copies her mother and also she kept three tiers of their wedding cake.

  60. Gabby says:

    I don’t think she’s preggo (immaculate conception anyone?).

    The most likely scenario is that she has 2 of all her coats, one in the regular size and one in the maternity size.

  61. Topaz says:

    Wow not having been photo shopped Kate starting to remind me of Droopy the cartoon

  62. Robin says:

    I’ve just watched the video, with the sounds off as per usual because I can’t bear her voice. It just looks so dull, the whole thing. I think the glum faces are because it’s hit William and Kate that this is their life now. For decades. Lots of outings for brief meets and greets and then home. Photographers and camera crews picking up on every gesture and word. These events take ages to plan. All the protocol that surrounds them must take hours, including security and travel. And then they get there, spend five minutes, do a bit of waving and go. An old friend of mine was responsible for hosting an event for the Queen during the Golden Jubilee tour of the country to significant UK towns and cities. Part of the day was the Queen having a cup of tea at the council offices. It took months of planning and rehearsals. They were briefed that the Queen would come into the foyer for a cup of tea. This was to be presented to her by a member of council staff. The Queen would take seven sips. Then the cup was to be taken from her after the seventh sip. They were sent a letter about how it had to be done. Imagine planning a tour of the country that included this dullness and effort. This is how silly royal life is. And that’s what I see in their faces. They have been left behind when they could have been part of four, sharing the burden and making it more modern and fulfilling. More fool them.

    • @ Robin. You’re right. “ I think the glum faces are because it’s hit William and Kate that this is their life now. For decades. Lots of outings for brief meets and greets and then home.” No more Meghan and Harry to act as scapegoats for whatever scandal they want to conceal. No more hope of Harry going back home.

  63. Rnot says:

    Did William really wear a navy suit with a black tie and brown shoes??

    Kate’s coat seems to be an attempt to avoid commentary on how alarmingly underweight she’s become. It does partially disguise the upper arm and waist area. The problem is that shoulder seam and the bust and hip darts show that she’s not filling it out, it’s hanging on her.

    The visual presentation of both Cambridges is seriously subpar here. For a normal couple I’d assume that they’d had to get ready in a hurry, maybe had a rough night with the kids. For these two I’m assuming a massive argument. They both look thoroughly miserable. It’s not quite as bad as Chuck and Di at the end but it’s certainly getting there.

  64. A says:

    She’s not knocked up. She looks very tired and haggard, which is surprising considering her money shot from the funeral was the complete opposite of that. Her skin in that photo looked great. My guess is that she hasn’t been in for her regular filler/botox appointment, although if she got it a week ago, can it wear off in a week? Or was the funeral money shot just a combo of good lighting, make up and retouching?

    • A says:

      Coming back to add–I wonder if maybe she wore the coat because she might have body dysmorphia? She came out decked to the nines for the funeral, and she looked incredibly thin in the pictures. But for people with body dysmorphia, they’re incapable of seeing their body as it really is, so maybe she saw the pictures and it sent her into a spiral, which is why she came out for this with her maternity coat and looking so unkempt. It might explain why William came with her–it’s been bugging me why she looks like how she does, and it might be that she’s really just not doing great, mental health-wise.

      • The Hench says:

        I watched the video of their visit last night (yes I really am that sad). What struck me as *really* weird was not Kate’s outfit but Wills’. He was wearing a pair of black jeans with loafer type shoes on his bottom half and then a black suit jacket and tie on his top half. I do not believe that the 2nd in line to the throne doesn’t have a full matching black suit at his disposal so that suggests that he wasn’t ready or planning to go on this visit and then had to at the last minute and they chucked a jacket and tie on him because mourning for PP. Very odd.

  65. Jules says:

    If someone could enlighten me I’d appreciate it. Why does Kate wear so many coat dresses no matter what the weather is like? The queen does, but she was in her prime in the ‘50s when coat dresses were popular so she’s accustomed to the look. I see royal families from other countries and the women wear dresses or separates for most outings. Diana didn’t wear them all that often, she wore dresses or blazers and skirts which were the fashion in the late ‘80s and early ‘90s.

    Is Kate trying to imitate the queen? Is she asked to or is this her choice?

    • Greywacke says:

      I am always cold, so I would. And she has no fat on her. She is probably always cold.

  66. MangoAngelesque says:

    My money is on her and Carol-with-an-e reading all the write-ups on how dramatically skinny she looked in her funeral garb, so she reached for something that would round things out a bit. She’s nothing if not defined by gossip.

    • BarbN says:

      I think you’re spot on with this comment, MA. Even her gushing fans at Daily Mail were mentioning how painfully thin she looked at the funeral.
      This rather unflattering coat dress is being worn for cover.

  67. Cass says:

    Is she an equivalent to Ivanka Trump in the US? I’m wondering why American sites cover her at all, given that she isn’t a US celeb

  68. Christine says:

    “The buttons are her babies now.”