Gary Goldsmith: Kate is a ‘brilliant arbiter’ and, as always, a keen peacemaker

Gary Goldsmith

Every time Gary Goldsmith has opened his mouth in the past year, I can’t help but think that Middleton HQ must be in a blind panic. The Middletons are doing everything but stand on their heads to convince everyone that Kate is the keenest lynchpin jewel of the crown future queen revolutionary that ever was. Meanwhile, the Middletons are losing money hand over fist, William continues to be engorged with rage, and it truly looks like William and Kate aren’t even living together. The house of cards is slowly collapsing, which is why Carole Middleton’s brother Gary Goldsmith is suddenly giving interview after interview, embiggening his niece and smearing the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. It’s all a bit tacky and very obvious, and it makes the Middletons look as trashy as the White Markles. So, yeah, Uncle Gary chatted with Closer Mag:

Gary believes Kate is the key to fixing the fractured relationship between William & Harry. “I went from being happy [about Harry taking the decision to seek a more “private life”] to angry, to worried about him. Everyone is astonished. He wanted to step back and protect his wife, now he’s charging in. It’s an attack on the family – why do it? If you want an easy life, work it out privately and have a conversation respectfully. Don’t air it in public, it’s really hurtful. The harsh truth – in my opinion – is that if Harry doesn’t get a grip and stop this self-indulgent episode, there will soon be no common ground or relationship to rebuild. But if anyone can bring peace to the royals, Kate can. Kate is a brilliant arbiter and peacemaker. Every bone in her body is about making friends and doing the best she can… She’s trying to mediate.”

The royals won’t be “damaged” by Harry: “I’ve never been more proud of the royal family. They give us a sense of stability and they’ve kept their dignity. Everyone loves our Queen and I think, with everything going on in the world at the moment, the royals are as important today as ever for our nation. This won’t be damaging to them at all.”

Once again raising the specter of “everything would be better without Meghan”: “You could see at the funeral that Kate was there trying to make peace, bringing the brothers together. Harry and Kate were great friends, they were a trio with William and a strong unit. Family and relationships are everything to Kate – she’s very nurturing, she wouldn’t like that [rift] happening and she is trying to look after her husband and do what she can to make things right.”

[From Closer]

It occurred to me as I read this that Gary is sort of the Rudy Giuliani of the Middleton Syndicate. Gary is the loose cannon, the shill, the guy who will go out there and make an ass out of himself whenever you need him to. Which also makes me wonder… isn’t Gary supposed to be filthy rich? Did he piss it all away and now he’s trying to earn a living by giving interviews about his royal connections? Clearly, Gary is not doing much good for Team Keen, but the way he’s obsessing over the Sussexes leads me to believe that Middleton Manor has been abuzz with little else for the past two years. It genuinely feels like Harry and Meghan are living rent-free in the minds of everyone in the Middleton clan. Curious.


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  1. Oh_Hey says:

    Dodgy uncle Gary strikes again. I wonder what’s coming out and how big it is because the Middletons have had him working overtime the past few weeks/months.

    • Snuffles says:

      This. Some shit is going down behind the scenes and they’re desperate to either cover it up or “right the ship” before they lose everything the spent the last 20 years scheming for.

      • Becks1 says:

        So whenever we talk on here about divorce, we say all the time if Charles could divorce Diana, William can divorce Kate, who is not anywhere near as beloved as Diana.

        Looking at these stories through that lens – this feels like a push to embiggen Kate as much as possible so that she does become as beloved as Diana, or more so, so that it seems impossible for William to divorce her. they’re just going to keep insisting that Kate is the rock, the lynchpin, the great peacemaker, the best thing ever, until the public believes it and William is stuck.

        I think its falling flat, but I think that’s what’s going on and like you said, its only “going on” because its getting very messy behind the scenes and they’re desperate. If there’s no fear of divorce, then the Middletons wouldn’t be pushing this narrative so desperately.

      • Nic919 says:

        Problem is they can’t make Kate as beloved as Diana in a few weeks. That would take years and she wasted the first 10 by hiding away for most of it. She would also have to do something of value to help people and she’s done nothing yet. Early years is meaningless and even hold still is something that’s she simply tacked her name on last minute. It doesn’t actually help people.

      • Eurydice says:

        @Becks – Diana was beloved because she was lovable. No amount of PR can make up for lack of authenticity.

      • Becks1 says:

        @Eurydice – oh exactly. That’s part of the problem with this PR narrative. You can’t force people to love you. And like @Nic said – she hasn’t done anything of value. Diana was doing important work right up until her death, which was part of the reason she was loved. Kate doesn’t have that.

        But the Middletons are trying really hard right now to make Kate happen.

      • bamaborn says:

        As the great Bette Davis said in All about Eve, “Hold on to your seats, it’s going to be a bumpy ride.” Lol

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        IF Will divorces Kate they could also get some single dad goodwill. 3 kids to raise and the weight of being the future, future king could be spun to his benefit pretty easily. He could get out of more work and his love life prospects would be positive PR.
        Anything with Kate would be negative as that angle would “feed the beast” that is the BM and save William from bad coverage.

        I can see this happening soon. Especially with how the Midds seem desperate to highlight Kate and the BRF isn’t countering that. They might have a divorce in the works.

      • Jais says:

        @bamaborn- that all about eve quote by Bette Davis is one of my all time favorites. Love love it. Also there’s enough misogyny in the press that if William wants to divorce Kate he can. He will find something to pin on her to explain his reasons for cheating and then sic Wooton and others on her and her family.

      • Kalana says:

        If Kate becomes Princess of Wales and then the Cambridges divorce and William remarries, will there then be two women with just different versions of the same Princess of Wales title?

        I think the sticking point behind whether they will divorce is how much effort William wants to invest in hiding his private life and as @WigletWatcher pointed out, whether he’ll get a pr boost from being a single dad. It would kill the Rose story in the long-term. I could see them divorcing but maybe not before the platinum jubilee?

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        @Kalana – If he and Kate divorce she will keep her title for as long as he doesn’t remarry, when he does all Kate’s titles will go to the 2nd wife, they follow William. Kate will lose her HRH status on a divorce so she would just be Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge.

      • Kalana says:

        @Digital Unicorn. Thank you. Huh, so if William remarries, Kate is left with no title at all? The Middletons will not like that at all.

      • Sofia says:

        @Kalana: She’ll be “Catherine, *insert title she’s got*” even if William marries again. She won’t lose that. She’ll lose her HRH even if William never marries again.

        However if Kate remarries again, she’ll lose the title (unless she marries another man with the title)

      • Kalana says:

        Ah, thank you @Sofia. Unless she’s getting a better title, Kate will never remarry. Kate has always tried to position herself as Diana 2.0 but Kate is actually Fergie 2.0. A ride-or-die, status obsessed, royal hanger-on to the end.

      • windyriver says:

        @Wiglet Watcher – Agreed, he could make the single dad work. He doesn’t necessarily have to have someone in the wings to be ready to divorce Kate. I think too, Will will be getting more and more jealous of Harry, now that it’s clear he/Jason/the RF have failed to 1) get Harry to return; or 2) diminish Harry’s growing reputation, and ensure he’s unsuccessful; and 3) basically control what Harry does in any way. Will may hate Meghan, but his brother has a pretty wife who loves him, who has admirable skills when it comes to their work, and Harry’s becoming a player on the international level. I think Will’s more than ready for a new direction, we see some of that with his recent “statesman” PR. He’s turning 40, the succession is secured, he can barely tolerate his wife at public events, and her family is becoming increasingly embarrassing.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Like Fergie, she would keep the divorced version of the title without the HRH. If William divorces her before he’s Duke of Cornwall, she stays with the Cambridge title even as he moves on to a different one. Duke of Cornwall is automatic, Prince of Wales is not.

        That’s why I think William and Charles would work together on this divorce. Charles will hold off naming William POW, so William’s second wife will be the only one with a Wales title.

    • PEARL GREY says:

      —“ Harry and Kate were great friends, they were a trio with William and a strong unit. —“

      They were such great friends that Harry said he looked forward to getting to know Kate after the engagement, despite her being around for 8 years already. Such was their friendship, that Kate returned the favour and welcomed Harry’s fiancé Meghan with open ar- oh, wait, no. She joined forces with her momager and raging husband to smear her friend Harry’s wife out of the palace.

      How sick and bizarre that the Middletons and Keen and Peen fans are so fixated on the “trio” days. Why would they want a grown adult man to have to third-wheel with his brother and sister-in-law for the rest of his life when he clearly wasn’t happy? Do they not realise how creepy they make themselves look? But by all means, I hope Gary the Gob keeps on talking. And I hope people take notice. And start digging.

      • Ginger says:

        And let’s not forget that Harry said the worst time in his life was when he was 28-32. That’s the time he was their third wheel. He hated it.

      • Zapp Brannigan says:

        —“ Harry and Kate were great friends, they were a trio with William and a strong unit. —“

        That wording is so weird, it reads as if Kate and Harry were the couple with William as the third wheel. WTF is going on in that marriage?

      • Mac says:

        @Zapp – I think it’s a nasty swipe at Meghan and perhaps suggests Harry isn’t too bright. Like they were a happy trio until mean old Meghan wooed away hapless Harry.

      • Kalana says:

        It sounds like Harry and Kate were there to serve William.

      • TheOriginalMia says:

        @Kalana, that’s exactly what the press & BRF expect of Harry & Kate. They are there to serve the FFK. Their happiness is secondary to his. That’s why everyone, including TOB are upset with Harry. He upset the apple cart.

      • Lizzie says:

        Oh she sure looked like a great friend at the commonwealth service didn’t she?

      • February-Pisces says:

        I think the middletons would have loved it if harry had been Kate’s secret lover. William doesn’t give af about Kate, but harry will defend and protect the women he cares about, but unfortunately for the middletons kate isn’t one of them.

        But it’s funny how keen stans are obsessed with Kate and harry being a thing. They are desperate for him to fancy her cos if gives them hope he might fancy them too. But I don’t think he’s ever liked her, but she always seems obsessed with him.

      • Christine says:

        It’s like they are completely unaware of how creepy it is that Uncle Gary is waxing poetic about the time poor Harry was alone, and tagging after Will and Kate. Seriously, who in their right mind thinks Harry is not living the best version of his life, and rolling out creepy Uncle Gary makes anything gross.

    • taris says:

      these “kate the peacemaker” stories are becoming nauseating. it’s like every 2 weeks now, my god

  2. Merricat says:

    Uncle Gary needs to stop sampling the product.

    • notasugarhere says:

      This. I wouldn’t say he pissed all the mone away, rather he snorted it all away.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @Merri and @Nota That’s a very real possibility. A former friend of mine broke up with his girlfriend and, when they sold the house they jointly owned, managed to put £175,000 either up his nose or behind whatever bar he stumbled into over one single year. He turned, like dear uncle Gazza, to drug dealing and was sent down for seven years.
        Oh, and “ If you want an easy life, work it out privately and have a conversation respectfully. Don’t air it in public, it’s really hurtful.” Did you remember your fine words, Gaz, when you offered to get sniff and hookers for a tabloid journo?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Underage ‘girls’ too. Duke of Slough with his own apartment at KP.

    • My Two Cents says:

      how are their heads not buried in shame each time this bozo opens his mouth? The royal family have Uncle Gary, Piers Morgan and Lady C talking for them? the shame! the utter shame!!

      • Agreatreckoning says:

        @My Two Cents, The Three Stooges! Wasn’t a fan of the original ones-didn’t find them funny or appreciate their retrograde attitudes towards women or POC. Apparently, the BRF does.

        Someone needs to come up with a pie chart showing all the reasons Uncle Gary isn’t the guy you want speaking on one’s behalf. He should be keen on pie charts. How can he call Kate an arbiter when she hasn’t settled anything with her “peacemaking”? Or any of the lot that keeps trying to title her as such?

    • The Hench says:

      Yes, that’s the thing that’s puzzling me. Why Uncle Gaz? I buy that there’s a need for an embiggening campaign but Carole has plenty of RR contacts to put out a stream of “Kate the Wonderful” stories ad nauseam and, if I were her, given Gaz’s dodgy past, I’d avoid using him as a mouthpiece if at all possible. Uncle Gary should be sitting by his pool in the sunshine, enjoying his millions. Why IS he trotting about chatting to Closer Mag, that pillar of the magazine world (not)?

      If it’s because he has blown his millions then that would explain a lot of the panic at Middleton Towers. Yesterday’s discussion around Party Pieces flagged that there’s no way that keeps them all afloat and William, whilst loose with his tongue is apparently tight with his money. If Gary’s well has also run dry then hoo boy….

      • Jay says:

        @hench, this is true – why him, why now, why here? Gary’s not exactly subtle, and his stories tend to focus more on himself than embiggening Kate, so they don’t exactly serve the intended purpose. Are Carole’s usual sources no longer taking her calls? Is she persona non grata if she can’t deliver any Harry and Meghan tidbits? Maybe they are as tired of writing the Kate the Great drivel as we are of reading it. Or maybe her influence has waned.

        After all, we know William can’t be happy with all of these stories about his wife being the key to the monarchy’s stability, a secret weapon, a diplomat making peace with Harry etc. W wants the stories to say what a great leader HE is! We know he can kill stories, surely he can also make sure that reporters let Carole’s calls go to voicemail.

      • BothSidesNow says:

        @ The Hench, I think you have solved the mystery regarding Pervy Gary! His fortune in drying up, the Midd’s are certainly strapped for cash, and he was relying on a big payday once Keen Doucheness was QC, hence the narrative of pushing Charles out to pasture. Pervy Gary gave a great deal of money to his sister and their accent into the big aristo circle, though the aristos hate Keen, and that loan has come due!! Pervy wants his pay and a cushy tittle to boot!! He may not see it for another 20 years, hence the constant dribble of lies. Baldimort certainly isn’t going to give him any money, but once he is POW he might. But I find that unlikely. Baldimort loves power and money but doesn’t want to work. I think the Midd’s are desperate, as W&K don’t even live in the same house anymore.
        As for his comments, he’s just pushing the Midd’s narrative, and his own underlying agenda, make no mistake about it. He has been silent for the better part of ten years until now.

    • Charlie says:

      Gary Goldsmith: I ‘lack sound judgement ’ and, as always, am a complete idiot.

  3. Becks1 says:

    Yeah, William and Kate really thought that Harry was going to go along as part of their “happy trio” for the rest of his life and they cannot wrap their heads around the fact that he didn’t want that.

    I def think Uncle Gary is the mouthpiece for the Middletons at this point – notice how he defends the queen, how he slams Harry for being “self-indulgent” but then talks about how Kate is the peacemaker, every bone in her body is about making friends, etc. This is definitely part of the “Kate is essential to the royals” narrative.

    • Jais says:

      “The every bone in her body is about making friends” This part just gets me. It’s so obviously not true that saying it aloud just draws more attention to how not true it is. Farcical levels.

      • Elizabeth Kerri Mahon says:

        If everyone bone in her body were about making friends, she would have made more of an effort with Meghan, not just showing up at Wimbledon but doing joint engagements, etc. And there would have been a statement from KP refuting the story about Meghan making Kate cry.

      • Cecilia says:

        @jais its also a stark difference from how kate was reported on while her and william were dating and a few years into her marriage. The narrative then was that she didn’t like any of harry’s girlfriends, she was fighting with Beatrice and Eugenie, and she was very competitive.

      • betsyh says:

        A friend doesn’t lead a smear campaign to drive her sister-in-law out of the family.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        If every bone in her body were about making friends, she’d HAVE friends.

      • Ginger says:

        It’s well known Kate doesn’t really have friends. She doesn’t like other women. She easily dumped the few she had when she started to date William.

      • Nic919 says:

        Uncle Gary is just making it more glaringly obvious that Kate is not a woman who has friends. The one thing we have seen with all the attacks on Meghan is that she has a lot of friends who are prepared to defend her character. They range from college friends of over 20 years ago, to former work colleagues. Kate doesn’t have anyone like that because her campaign to get William burned a lot of bridges along the way. The rota ends up defending her but only because it is in their financial interests to do so.

      • Andrew’s Nemesis says:

        @JT right? They’re living in Looking-Glass Land where up is Tuesday, White is Exceptional and Abuser is Knight-Errant.
        I’d be seriously embarrassed if someone like Gary came to bat for ME.

    • Eating Popcorn says:

      @Becks1 makes me think William & Kate thought Harry would run interference in their relationship, now that he’s gone, what’s left? That may be why Kate is trying to bring Harry back and Wills is enraged

      • notasugarhere says:

        He only saw them at work engagements, they weren’t close in private life.

      • Amy Too says:

        But as we saw in the Scottish tour, they really need interference even if it’s only at work.

      • JT says:

        @Andrew’s Nemesis She certainly wouldn’t need Uncle Bang Bang to defend her if she did. Meg has Serena Williams. Kate has her wife beating uncle. So regal.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Meghan has Serena and a powerhouse of other A list celebs and tops in their fields. Oprah, Gayle, numerous wealthy business partners. Bad press is only effective when you become a social and professional pariah. That is a far reach to think the BM can u do the Sussex’s success with quotes from a underage sex trafficker and drug dealing wife beater.

  4. Woke says:

    I simply think Carole lost control of Gary. There was something that was keeping Gary in check and it’s no longer there. Either now has the upper hand or he has nothing to lose now.

    I don’t think it has anything to do with the Sussexes it’s just they are a convenient scapegoat.

    • swirlmamad says:

      I agree with this. Somehow I just can’t imagine that Carole, who by all accounts is ALLLL about carefully cultivating a very specific image, is completely fine with her shady-ass brother running his mouth all the time, and saying off color things about Charles to boot. She seems too controlling to just let him steer the ship rather be the mouthpiece herself, whether directly or through “sources”. Something is not right.

    • pottymouth pup says:

      the upper hand would have to be against William, wouldn’t it? Otherwise, if this is not what William wants Gary to be doing, wouldn’t the firm be trying to shut it down?

      • Woke says:

        I think the upper hand may be he found out about the true state of the cambridge’s marriage.

      • Mac says:

        Or he may have the under hand. If Carole’s pot farm is making serious money she doesn’t need Gary anymore and he may be acting out because he is angry or jealous that he is no longer the rich brother everyone relies on.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I think he’s acting under Carole’s command. She has done her own pro-Kate, anti-Meghan campaign for four years. It was blatant and obvious. By having Gary be the mouthpiece now? Carole can get her message across, while convincing some people she had nothing to do with it.

      • Nic919 says:

        I agree. Carole can get the media to stop talking to him or at least stop publishing the stories. She chooses not to stop this because she approves.

    • Amy Too says:

      That’s interesting. I wonder if Carole used to keep him quiet and in the background with her promise that she would manage everything to do with the Kate-William relationship and the PR aspect of it all, and now Gary is seeing that Carole has lost the plot and isn’t as effective anymore because William is on the verge of dumping Kate. So he’s going in now to try to keep everything together himself. I think just the fact that he’s obviously willing to talk so much and so often—and to say outrageous things about how the Queen should retire and Charles should be skipped, and some pretty blatant anti-Harry and Meghan stuff—might be his way of threatening William into keeping Kate around and/or being a better husband (move back in with her, look less like he hates her, make another baby, stop cheating, prop up party pieces, whatever it is that the Middletons want from him). Because uncle Gary knows a lot about William. Wasn’t he providing them with places to party, places to vacation, drugs, and money in the early years? Possibly other women for William? Maybe some “financial advising” for Will in the form of some shady investments/money laundering? I’m sure he knows plenty of unsavory things about William and everyone would like it much better if he just kept quiet. Or maybe he just knows that he’s such an unsavory relation for a FFK and knows that Will would probably much rather Gary stay in the background.

      I do wonder if Carole has completely lost control of everything and that’s why Gary is out here now chatting and doing his own thing. Kate and Carole still have a lot to lose and may have lost their leverage with Will: they still have their reputations, people still believe in Party Pieces, questions aren’t being asked about that mysterious pot farm, they’re desperate to be accepted and social climb, nobody wants to lose William and the FFQ position and I’m sure they don’t want to lose terribly moderately wealthy James either, plus they need money and William has it. But Gary doesn’t have much to lose, does he? He already doesn’t have a great reputation, he already has a criminal record, everyone knows he’s shady and gross and his secrets aren’t really secrets anymore, and he has all the money he could ever need. I’m sure he’d like to maintain his family’s connection to the RF so he’s out here working it trying to get through to William, but his entire life trajectory and personal fulfillment aren’t tied up in Kate being Queen so he can afford to be less subtle and more risky in his attempts to bully/shame/remind/poke William.

      • Snuffles says:


        Interesting thoughts. I can see over the years Uncle Gary hooking William up with hookers and blow. Kate happily looking the other way as long as she got that ring. I could also see the Middletons talking William into investing in some failed business ventures and giving them money to pay for their home. It’s quite possible that the Middletons leached all of William’s inheritance from Diana. It’s possible he’s personally broke and is 100% reliant on The Crown funds. Which would explain why he’s so keen to skip the line and get his hands on that Duchy money. The Middletons too.

        I’m sure the Middletons have a ton of dirt on him and they are trying to remind him of that. But any good PR guru could lay the blame on the Middletons by labeling them social climbing grifters who manipulated a vulnerable William who was still lost due to the death of his mother.

    • Maria says:

      No, I think this is with her involvement. Remember how many times she shaded Meghan herself. And remember how she tried to be super virtuous about “refraining from publicity” surrounding Philip’s death with her Good Housekeeping cover, outrightly criticizing the Sussexes.

      • Amy Too says:

        I always found Carole to be a bit more subtle with her criticism of Meghan though. Not necessarily calling her and Harry out by name. Just little digs here and there about how duchessing wasn’t all speech giving, things like that that were obviously meant to contrast Kate with Meghan but without blatantly coming out and saying, like Gary is, that there’s no way back for Harry and Meghan now that they’re whining in public and attacking the family. Gary is so much more blunt. He sounds like a tabloid reporter and he’s using his own name and face rather than whispering into an ear that “sources say….”

      • Maria says:

        Maybe Carole thinks this is valuable PR since she’s not aware we’re all onto how sketchy he is.
        I would not put it past her.

      • Nic919 says:

        Agree 100%. Carole explicitly shaded Meghan in her own interview, because she is worried how Meghan makes her daughter look like a lazy dolt. No other in law had done a direct interview like this until Carole decided to do one and she took time from that to go after Meghan. They don’t like Meghan and are worried about how that affects public sentiment toward Kate.

      • Harper says:

        Oprah was world-wide and CarolE can’t be everywhere. Uncle Gary might have offered to help with restoring Kate’s reputation as a lynchpin, Jewel in the Crown, rock of TOB, etc. across the planet.

    • Nic919 says:

      Carole can get her media friends to halt publication of any Gary interview. They managed to turf the nazi marshmallow story pretty quick or the pot farm story. That these interviews keep happening show that Carole approves of this.

      • Amy Too says:

        But this is apparently an American magazine. And wasn’t his last interview in Australia? Does Carole’s reach extend outside the UK? If she wanted him talking wouldn’t she set him up with her press contacts in England?

      • TabithaD says:

        Closer is a UK mag (at least this interview was published in the UK version first). The link in the article is to a UK website.

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Nic919, I keep thinking that CarolE and Co just aren’t thinking this through. Let’s say for arguments sake that Uncle G was hooking W up with drugs/hookers. That would have started when he was about 20(?)–well, talk about taking advantage of someone young and undoubtedly still traumatized by his Mother’s death. This will sink the Mids. If K was part of all of that–it will definitely sink her. I doubt it will make any difference what the Mids think they have on W since the brf can just lay it back to the Mids doors. Don’t they know this?

      • Harper says:

        Interesting. If Wills does have a nose problem, someone reliable has to be supplying it. Someone the family can trust. Isn’t that also used for weight control? Again, you’d want someone the family can trust.

  5. Nomegusta says:

    What the hell was he promised?

    Gary is a scumbag. Scumbags don’t do anything that doesn’t benefit them…

    • The Duchess says:

      His investment back? A title? Houses? Cars? Who really knows with these Middleton’s anymore. All I know is that something must really unsettle them for Gary to go awol like this. Maybe they’ve realised that Kate is easily expendable and their 20-year investment scheme has accounted for nothing. Karma works in beautiful ways.

    • Amy Too says:

      I kind of think titles but then not really bc the monarch doesn’t really just make people aristos anymore. Maybe it’s something like business opportunities, contracts, and contacts. Once William has control of Duchy funds, and then even more so when he’s the King, he’ll be able to help out his “friends” significantly. He can’t just give them cash, but we’ve seen so many examples of pay to play and pay for access with this family. Pitch at the palace? “Unofficial Russian ambassador”? There will be lots of money-making, power-accruing, and all-consequences-waived opportunities once Will moves up a rank and gets more power and control. And then even more once he’s king which might be why Gary is so insistent on skipping Charles and installing William ASAP. I’m sure he was promised all sorts of return on his investment opportunities and it’s been 20 years now, he doesn’t seem to have gotten back anything he’s put in, and he’s getting older. Yank-yank on the chain.

      • Becks1 says:

        This is what I was just thinking – the Middletons aren’t automatically going to have access to money just bc William is Duke of Cornwall or even king. What they are going to have is just plain access. We’ve seen how even someone like Peter Phillips can leverage his status to make millions. That’s the end game for Uncle Gary, and I think he’s realized he’s in danger of losing it.

      • Elizabeth says:

        The monarch does still give life peerages I think, with minor titles like Baron of This or That, usually to titans of industry or major players in the arts. Like PD James, the mystery writer. She’s Baroness James of Holland Park. Maybe Uncle Gary really wants a minor title.

        Or Uncle Gary is just an arrogant blowhard who likes the sound of his own voice. Who knows . . . what a crummy guy.

    • Agreatreckoning says:

      @nomegusta, the Goldsmith Wing at the palace? It’s a DM link – interesting that William hasn’t really cut ties with the fantastically monikered by a CBer Uncle Hookers & Blow.

  6. Sofia says:

    Okay I checked the CB archives and this is his 5th time speaking over a span of 7 months or so. Before that he was relatively quiet and the last time he spoke in this frequency was in 2013. So from the years 2013-2020, somebody, somewhere knew how to shut Gary up. So I do have to wonder if either a) said method isn’t working anymore or b) said someone purposely told him to start speaking again.

    I do lean towards b) because if he’s shut up for most of a decade, I’m sure he could still stay quiet. Or KP could have shut him down now because again, somebody somewhere knew how to shut him up for literal years.

    Note that I only checked the CB archives. So if Gary spoke after 2013, I don’t know about it and I can’t be bothered to care/google Gary.

    • Cecilia says:

      Or he wants to elevate his profile and is doing it by jumping on the sussex hate train. Because god knows that just being kate’s uncle couldn’t get him to the top.

      • Sofia says:

        But the Midds/KP could still get him to shut up if they wanted to. They literally did for years. The fact that they haven’t or won’t means what previously got him to shut up has stopped working or someone’s purposely let him off his leash to go into attack mode

    • betsyh says:

      I agree, it’s b. KP wants to raise Kate’s profile and to shut down their (in their view) competitors.

    • Amy Too says:

      Maybe KP was able to get him to shut up before but Will and Kate aren’t really working together as a united front with united goals out of KP anymore. Maybe William was getting KP to shut Gary up somehow so he wouldn’t embarrass Kate, or so that people wouldn’t connect Gary with the couple. But maybe now William doesn’t care is Kate is embarrassed and he feels like he might be able to use these exact type of interviews from this exact type of shady Middleton relative as an excuse to get rid of Kate. Or maybe Kate and Carole were shutting Gary up bc they were handling everything but now it’s not being handled so well anymore so, even if William wants Gary to shut up and go away so as not be an embarrassment to him, Kate is refusing to relay that message to Gary because she’s pissed at Will and trying to scare him back to her.

    • Ginger says:

      I believe he is being told to speak out. He started speaking out after the Oprah interview when it was revealed that Kate made Meghan cry and refused to tell the truth. They are probably scrambling because people are seeing Kate for what she is. She always tried to come off as shy and sweet when she is in fact a bully and a nasty mean girl. Kate’s whole public image is going down in smoke.

      • Nic919 says:

        Kate doing bitch face at the commonwealth service was pretty bad on its own and knowing that she acted like that while letting a false story attacking Meghan remain out there really makes Kate look awful.

    • Tara says:

      This is so interesting – 2013 was the year George was born. It might have been an arrangement considering the kids or bounding over family?

    • Beach Dreams says:

      Truly bizarre. All of these interviews he’s doing have a distinct note of desperation. I do think Carole’s giving him the go-ahead to speak too. Whatever’s happening in House Cambridge has the Middletons seriously freaked out.

  7. MsIam says:

    Uncle Dude, Harry has moved on. He’s not going to be the royal doormat anymore. These folks keep holding on to the fantasy that Harry will be beating on the castle door someday trying to get back in. Not gonna happen folks.

  8. Bunny says:

    Why does it look like William and Kate aren’t living together? What did I miss?

    As for Uncle Gary, my guess is that he and Carole are close to overplaying their hand disastrously. They can embiggen Kate till the cows come home, but spotlighting Kate over William and Charles won’t stand forever.

    There is absolutely no way that the RF will allow an outsider to become the lynchpin of whatever popularity and acceptance they have.

    • lanne says:

      He supposedly has an office at Sandringham house, where he “works.” Why William needs a separate office when they live in a 10 bedroom mansion next door at Anmer Hall beggars belief, especially during a pandemic. Reading between the lines, they must be living apart, at least when they are in Norfolk. This gives Kate plausible deniability about any “work visitors” that William needs to see for late night “meetings”. There’s a media blackout about Williams extracurricular activities, but how long will that hold? What leverage exists to keep it? Maybe uncle Gary’s interviews are a warning shot to William.

      • Nic919 says:

        With covid restrictions preventing them from openly travelling so much, William needed a separate space and the news about “working” out of Sandringham was not much after Philip was moved to Windsor Castle, freeing up Wood Farm, which is where Philip was living prior to then.

    • notasugarhere says:

      All of what lanne wrote, plus the fact William had COVID, a bad case, but Kate and the kids tested negative. Easy to do when you live in separate homes. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was living in the old Gloucester Apartment 1 when they’re forced to be in London. Just one connecting door separate from Apartment 1A.

      • Becks1 says:

        Also remember william’s weird comment in late 2019 that implied he didnt get to see his kids that often – weird because he doesn’t really work and he presumably lives with his kids, so why doesnt he see them?

      • Cecilia says:

        @becks1 didn’t kate make a similar comment after george was born? Something about “william is barely around” or something like that. I can’t remember the exact phrase.

      • notasugarhere says:

        At an event for military families on the AU/NZ tour, she remarked that William hadn’t been around much the first 5-6 months of PGTips’ life. It was meant to be sympathetic towards spouses who have to care for little kids while the other one is deployed, but it backfired. But William wasn’t deployed, he was barely working at SAR, wasn’t working his royal job. So where was he if he wasn’t with Kate and PGTips? Comment was quickly covered up by the RRs.

        She lied about this later on, in the HeadsTogether video. Talking about William having to go back to work, so she packed up the baby and they all went back. Except that didn’t happen. We got the weird story at the time. Kate and Carole packing up the baby, surprising William at the 4-bed luxury farmhouse in Wales. Saw a rat and ran home to Berkshire for months. Was it a rat or another woman in William’s bed? Or was William even there to be surprised?

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        I remember that story and the “rats”, but thought it was at their cottage. There were pics of Carole helping Kate pack and leave their newlywed home in a hurry because of rats.

        End of the day there’s a mountain of stories with evidence Kate and William spend very little time together that isn’t work related.

      • notasugarhere says:

        It was the Welsh ‘cottage’, which turned out to be a 4 bedroom luxury farmhouse with four full-time staff. Located on the private estate of a wealthy royal-lover. It wasn’t until they moved out and the house went up for lease that the luxury nature of the place was revealed.

    • bamaborn says:

      There’s a photo I remember where Bill walks into the room and the older kids looked around as if they were surprised to see him. Remember thinking it was obvious he didn’t eat breakfast with them that morning.

  9. lanne says:

    Closer magazine is an old folks magazine in the US that has cover stories about stars from back in the day. I think I saw Mary Tyler Moore on the cover—I was at the grocery store yesterday and it’s the magazine that’s displayed on the outside aisle. This tells me that Uncle Gary is talking to anyone who will listen to him. It’s absolutely Markle-esque. Why is he talking to every rag and tabloid he can in the US, UK and Australia? How on earth is the palace allowing this, when they are supposed to be something something dignity, always dignity?

    The media bayed for Meghans blood when her father went on his tabloidathon, as if his trashiness was her fault, and that she, though his behavior, was tarnishing the royal family.

    With Uncle Gary, it’s crickets. Something is being covered up with the Cambridges. Either Uncle Gary is going rogue because he wants something, or his sister Carole is deploying him to speak. Once again, I have to ask: who is running the show? Why can’t these folks get their acts together and their stories straight? What’s going on in that wretched hive of scum and villainy?

    • notasugarhere says:

      I agree, Carole is deploying him. Her attacks on Meghan for the past four years were too obivous. Now she’s sending Gary out, a known rogue element, so she can claim innocence about what he says.

    • Jaded says:

      Ma Machiavelli is stage managing Uncle Snorty for sure. His baseless hatred of the Sussexes and lavish praise for Kate’s seemingly boundless talents, intelligence, compassion, yadda yadda yadda, seem like a desperate last ditch attempt by CarolE to keep the dam from bursting, but burst it will. If this is about the poor state of the Cambridges’ marriage and the fear of Will bailing, their financial house of cards will collapse. I’m sure Kate would be well looked after in a divorce, and between her and Pippa’s sort of wealthy husband, plus Gary’s money if he hasn’t snorted it all up his nose, the Midds will survive but not anywhere near the level they anticipated.

    • Dee Kay says:

      upvoting @Ianne’s Star Wars reference. The RF really is a “wretched hive of scum and villainy” at the moment. They are the Mos Eisley of our universe, except without the fun cantina with the live band (maybe Camilla could provided a little bit of cantina fun, though).

  10. Wiglet Watcher says:

    They are truly afraid of Meghan. Wow. At first I though it was just because she appeared better than Kate. A strong, kind, intelligent, hard working, self made woman. The opposite of Kate. Now I think because She saw enough they’re afraid some of their secrets will be spilled. Or that Kate will be thrown under the bus to save William or the monarchy from any bad press.

    Will and Kate have been living apart almost their whole marriage at least on and off. This is confirmed by Kate and the media. But now that here are separate residences and so much talk of mistresses with Will unable to put on a happy couple front, I’m betting the end is near. The Midds are just trying to cash out.

    • Snuffles says:

      “ Or that Kate will be thrown under the bus to save William or the monarchy from any bad press.”

      I’m going with this. But throw in the entire Middleton clan .

      • Digital Unicorn says:

        Yeah am with this – the Middletons are about to get thrown under the bus and am betting this is coming from Chuck with Cain’s blessing.

    • betsyh says:

      I really don’t think their marriage will end. In the royal family, it seems like it’s been the norm for the spouses to live separate lives. And William needs the family man image while he continues to cheat, and Kate is too willing to turn a blind eye.

      • Maria says:

        If they’re living separate lives and William still can’t stand her to the point where he can’t even do an engagement with her without looking like a sulky teenager who was forced to spend time with a random cousin he hates, then that does not bode well for the retention of the family man image.

      • betsyh says:

        Maria, he doesn’t have to look happy, he just needs to stay married. William doesn’t strike me as someone who wants to rock the boat, and why should he if he has the best of both worlds (side pieces and a partner who will endure them so that she can be queen).

      • Becks1 says:

        It’s the norm in the royal family but not for the average, normal couple. My guess is the press knows they are living separate lives and are keeping a lid on it – for now. But if the story blows open, then so does their image of the perfect happy family and William as the perfect family man and it will be interesting to see how the public reacts.

      • JT says:

        @Maria Exactly. The only point in maintaining a family man image, is if you can maintain the family man image. William can barely stomach Kate. He puts in no effort around Kate, he hardly even looks at her anymore, and half the time he fists are so clenched they’re white. Kate gave a speech last week and he was literally looking at clouds. The fact that he can’t even pretend anymore is a problem. Aren’t one of the signs of a bad marriage is putting in zero effort? It means he doesn’t care anymore and he doesn’t respect Kate enough to pretend to, while she’s manically smiling like a mad man.

      • Maria says:

        I’m sorry but if William is allowing Gary to go out there and say Charles should be skipped in the succession (and if William wanted Gary to stop talking he would not allow him to do three interviews on the same topic) not to mention his campaign against Meghan, that shows that he will rock the boat if he wants to.
        Gary is not some random person in the family. William even visited his drug/sex trafficking villa on vacation with Kate.
        William has been told all his life he is the golden child. He will do what he wants.
        That’s what it comes down to. Whether he wants to divorce or not. Normally I’d say they wouldn’t. But the excess of Kate fluff, their behavior together, the PR of her family, and how William cannot stand her and those rumors are growing – nobody can say for sure.
        I am absolutely sure if they do split up they will blame the “increased pressure and attention” because of the Sussexes leaving as the reason. He will still come out smelling like a rose that way, to the Daily Fail losers and their ilk.

      • Amy Too says:

        Becks, I wonder if Will is doing some calculus in his head about if it would make more sense for him to divorce Kate BEFORE news of his cheating and their sham marriage comes out (and how long does he have before any of that does come out?) OR if he can manage to keep the press quiet on his cheating and then just stay married but separated and miserable? And if so, is the price of keeping the press quiet worth it? There’s a lot of various factors here and “what if’s” that he has to weigh and consider. And then he doesn’t have complete control over all the various factors. The press could go rogue and decide to spill at any time while he’s still mulling what to do. The Middletons could continue to get louder and louder and build Kate up so high that even if he wants to divorce her, she may have gained too much popularity and goodwill with the public that it might be hard for him to spin her as the bad one. And the longer he waits, the more she’s embiggened, but if he waits long enough will she maybe fall off her pedestal? Will the press turn on her? What if it never comes out and he can’t find a new wife and he made a big divorce mess for no reason? And then you have Harry and Meghan and all that they know to think about. They could drop truth bombs, they could correct whatever blatant lies or spin he tries to use, especially if tries to pin their leaving on Kate. He has no good choices and everything could blow up at any time and it’s all his fault.

      • betsyh says:

        Maria, you’re right, nobody can say for sure. But I think William and Kate don’t have so much a marriage but a business relationship. He cheated with Rose. Kate agreed to appear in public with her to squash the rumors. Cheating allegations could pop up again, and Kate will agree to shield him again. That could be all he wants from his marriage.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Three of the Queen’s four children are divorced. Her nephew Linley/Snowdon is divorced. Her grandson Peter is divorcing. Her cousin, Duke of Kent, has been separated for decades because she denied them a divorce. Another cousin, Lady Davinia Windsor/Lewis is divorced.

        Plenty of divorces in the Windsor family, even among working royals.

      • betsyh says:

        Also, I am not sure why William would divorce Kate. So he can marry the woman he loves? He wasn’t able to do that before he married Kate. What sane woman would want to marry into that family after seeing how Meghan was treated? Who wants that kind of horrible attention?

      • Maria says:

        Kate tried to freeze out Rose and William and the aristocracy made it clear that wasn’t going to happen. Kate only complied when she understood this.
        But the Queen won’t keep giving out Royal Orders for her silence forever. Charles definitely won’t.
        And Kate basically got Louis in exchange for his infidelity. Now that he absolutely won’t give her a fourth child because he’s that far gone in their separate lives arrangement…
        And- well, IF there is a second wife, she won’t be the one to run the gauntlet of the “newlywed” PR, and she won’t have to do the newborn Lindo wing presentations. She would get far less scrutiny. So I can see a woman being willing for that role.
        As it is, the scrutiny on Kate isn’t very bad. She was allowed to let her lawyers threaten Tatler etc. Everyone hates Meghan so that’s the comparison that will always be drawn.

      • Wiglet Watcher says:

        Diana wanted to stay married to Charles. He did not. It was encouraged he stay married by the whole family. And that was then. Now, anyone in the BRF can divorce and they absolutely do.
        The days of sticking it out and living separate isn’t required or all that encourages anymore. Even for an heir.

      • MsIam says:

        @betsyh members of the royal family are divorcing left and right. And I don’t think William “needs” the family man image at all. None of his puff pieces talk up how good a dad and husband he is, only what a “statesman” he is *eye roll*. Its Kate’s puff pieces that talk up how indispensable she is to William and how much he needs her, she pushes the whole “family” image.

      • betsyh says:

        Well, I can see my opinion is going against the flow here. We will just have to wait to see what happens. But I am willing to take bets on whether William will divorce Kate, and I plan on making a pile of money, lol.

      • Becks1 says:

        @betsyh lol. I do sort of see your point, and I can see Will and Kate just living separate lives for the next 50 years. But I think its hard to keep something a secret that long and if it comes out, then what’s the point in staying married? the whole “he’s a family man” image (which I agree, thats pretty much all he has going for him) is destroyed.

        I don’t know. I just feel like there is an increasingly desperate edge to some of these stories lately that I don’t think there would be if the Midds knew that William would never divorce Kate.

      • Jaded says:

        @betsyh – William doesn’t have a “family man” image anymore, he’s managed to ruin that too along with his marriage. The gutter press are sitting on a shit-ton of salacious info on him and that simmering pot may be about to boil over. The Midds are doing as much damage control as possible by elevating Kate to savior status and letting Uncle Snorty fulminate in every publication possible about Meghan and Harry, but it’s not working. Charles, meanwhile, is just sitting back like a big grinning buddha waiting for the Midds to self-destruct publicly, at which point William and Kate will divorce. It’s like a big, real-life chess game.

      • TigerMcQueen says:

        I could see them not divorcing.

        The only thing Elegant Bill has going for him is that he’s a ‘normal, family man’. And much of that is directly related to him mother and father, and how unhappy they were. If it comes out that he’s actually not happily married, that they’re living separate lives, it’s going to do real damage the little good will he has among commonwealth citizens barely clinging to royalist feelings because of nostalgia and TQ. That’s why they’ll try to keep hiding the affairs and stay married (he keeps his image, Keen Guevara gets to be queen consort).

        But I can see them getting divorced if the affairs all come out. I mean, why bother if everyone knows they’re living separate lives? He can barely pretend to like being around her lately, everyone knowing gives him an out. And if his image is dinged, he might as well get divorced and try the long game image rehab his dad tried.

        The Ma Middle and the klan do seem worried, though.

      • Lizzie says:

        Maybe it’s the norm in the rf, but so is divorce. Margaret, Charles, Anne, Andrew, Peter P.

        I have no feeling one way or another if they are living apart. But one lesson from his parents is divorce before the POW titles. Next wife can be POW without taking anything from keen.

      • Nic919 says:

        A divorce happens if William has a better option. Kate will never have so much goodwill that he wouldn’t divorce her if there was someone else he wanted instead. And who wanted William back. Kate is irrelevant to that calculation.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Maria, Baby #3 wasn’t in exchange for his infidelity with Rose. It was because he was caught publicly drunk, partying with pretty young blonds on a ski holiday while Kate was also out of the country skiing (in a different country, Pippa’s hen weekend). That’s why I’m not sure they’re done with kids yet, or if she’ll manage to extract Baby #4 for Rose. Or he said no on that, which is part of why QEII handed her the yellow ribbon for keeping her mouth shut about the affair(s).

      • Maria says:

        @nota: Yes, I agree that Louis was in exchange for his Switzerland so that’s just why I said infidelity, not Rose 😁😁 I’m sure it went beyond dad dancing of
        I think they are done with kids. Simply because I think if they were going to have a fourth it would have happened by now. That PR would have been invaluable during Sussexit. Of course I can’t tell for sure…but I think that ship has sailed and he’s finished with it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        He was finished with two, she still got three out of him. And she was walking around telling crowds she was ‘feeling broody’ when Archie was born, rather than talking about Archie proper.

    • Nikki says:

      “ Or that Kate will be thrown under the bus to save William or the monarchy from any bad press.”

      You nailed it. Her family is doing this to protect Kate because they know what’s coming.

      • GRUEY says:

        I really have nothing to add other than this is absolutely fascinating and where else am I still gonna be reading 100 comments deep lol.

        There is so much weird shit swirling around the Cambridges. It’s fascinating. Compare to Charles and Camilla. No swirl. No puzzling allusions to offices in separate homes. Videos where they both look the *same* level of confused and bemused. Actually just getting on with it. There is just so much damn NOISE about the Cambridge’s, it really really makes you ask why. Is it just raging insecurity around the Sussexes? I think not. *SOMETHING* is weird here.

    • The Hench says:

      The comment about the Middletons being afraid of Meghan makes perfect sense. Meghan said “Kate was going through some things” in the Oprah interview. Clearly she knows the inside deal and, given how much Meghan and Harry are revealing about the inner machinations of the palaces, the Middletons are probably terrified that a reveal on Kate is next. I don’t think Meghan would do that to Kate but the Midds would definitely do it to Meghan if the shoe were on the other foot so, judging M by their standards, they’re terrified. Hence the “how awful it is to keep on talking about the family to the media” line Uncle Gary follows – as he talks about the family to the media.

      • Jais says:

        @the hench- yeah, meghan saying that “Kate was going through some things” probably petrified Kate. That line has not been super focused on by the press and could probably be explained as post pregnancy feelings, but one day if more ever comes out, that line could be really interesting.

      • Nic919 says:

        Meghan basically confirmed that Kate found out about the rose affair in the time before the wedding, which matches what other articles have said. So Meghan understood why Kate was being difficult about the tights.

    • Liz version 700 says:

      Am I a terrible person to be filled with irony that the family that tried for 4 years to destroy H&M’s marriage is now watching their “golden ticket” marriage implode. Couldn’t happen to a nicer lot. I just hope Nanny Maria is keeping the kids far away from this mess.

  11. heygingersnaps says:

    “Kate is a brilliant arbiter and peacemaker. Every bone in her body is about making friends and doing the best she can” ugh, what friends has she got?!
    Dodgy gary seems to need funding again or wants his roi.

  12. Jay says:

    He’s definitely the creepy uncle. I find the way he talks about Kate very odd. He always mentions her looks in some way, whether it’s “every bone in her body is about making friends and doing the best she can” or the truly squicky “she’s as beautiful on the inside as she is on the outside” from a previous interview. It’s very Trumpy, and maybe it shows us a little bit of what it would be like to grow up in the Middleton clan, with your looks being everybody’s meal ticket.

    • Lizzie Bathory says:

      I totally agree. Especially considering what we know about Gary’s past, it’s super creepy. Who talks about their niece that way? And Carole clearly allows it. It’s gross.

    • Nic919 says:

      Uncle Gary was reported as commenting on the size of Kate’s breasts in that they were small, and the size William liked. So he’s crossed these lines before.

      • notasugarhere says:

        He’s also talked about her sexual prowess and how lucky William is to be bedding her. That was back in the dating years, Maison de bang bang, and the shady yacht parties.

  13. Haylie says:

    Kate can’t mend any relationships. That keen peacemaker story fell apart in less than 24 hours.

    Not to mention, Kate was very much a part of the pre-Oprah interview bullying smears that Harry specifically mentioned in The Me You Can’t See.

    He doesn’t trust that thirsty, unsatisfied, jowly bag.

  14. The Duchess says:

    William & Kate must be really going through it behind the scenes for Gary to sing so loudly like this. I have to scream! The Middleton’s have had him singing like a canary for the past few months now and it gets more cringe every time he opens his mouth.

  15. Digital Unicorn says:

    Hmm, interesting that he can’t shut up about Kate and slagging the Sussex’s off. The more he speaks the more I think a Cambridge divorce is imminent – its been obvious for years that they lead separate lives. Given the discussions yesterday around PP and the Mid personal financies, they NEED cash and need it now.

    Am not sure he’s bankrolling his sister and her family any more, I’ve always thought he was a bit of a Thomas Markle character who WANTS a public profile off the back of Kate. Am beginning to think Carole has lost control of her brother and he is out there milking it for all its worth. If Carole can’t make him shut up then he’s talking in the hopes that either William or the RF will do him a favour to keep him quiet.

  16. Peanut says:

    I just can’t imagine that H has a lot of respect or affection for K anymore. Maybe he’s more upset with his brother but he has to know that the two of them were doing all this together. These people that think K is some sort of peacemaker don’t realize that H blames her just as much.

    • MsIam says:

      I can’t imagine he is too happy about her letting that crying story twist in the wind for years. I think Harry and Meghan have been more than kind to Kate and William, with Harry going out of his way to say he loves his brother (though no kind words for his “sister” Kate, lol) but I think they have got to be reaching their limit with them. Charles has already been tossed, I think William and Kate may be next if this keeps up.

    • Ginger says:

      Harry is clearly very protective of Meghan. This story really bothered Meghan. She had asked numerous times for it to be denied and the palace wouldn’t budge. Then Kate had the Tatler article changed but left the crying story in. One of the first things Oprah asked Meghan was the crying story and I am sure Meghan was relieved to get the correct story out there. I am sure whatever little respect Harry had towards Kate is gone. He will be cordial for appearances sake but that’s it. Kate had been awful towards Meghan. She never reached out to her when she was struggling.
      That’s pretty awful.

  17. Kfg says:

    I think there is a huge story about to drop about Wills and he is going to use it to demonize kate and her family. The royals don’t like the midds and it’s going to be bad. I bet right around the beginning of July. That’ll be over a year since the tabs have had a real story about M&H and they’re going broke. Fiscal year numbers will be out.

    • Cecilia says:

      I highly doubt it. They’ve been running these stories for a long time now and nothing has dropped. Tho i do agree that there’s something that is being covered up. But judging from the comments of a few editors on twitter that is about william, not kate nor the middletons

      • Saucy&Sassy says:

        Cecilia, I’m sure the brf is more than capable of throwing whatever it is back onto the Mids. There’s already lots f fertile ground there, so It won’t be hard to do a spin.

        I just can’t see an up side to this marriage continuing. If K was actually a working royal who had a good track record, yes that would be a huge consideration. The problem is that K hasn’t really worked, and when she has she’s really not good at it. W just shows contempt when she speaks. W shows how completely he resents having to do engagements with her. This can only hurt the brf and W. So, wouldn’t it be a better situation if they divorced and W would do his engagements alone. He could also take along one of his cousins? I do know that I really want a divorce for the children’s sake. This has got to be horrible for them.

  18. Unionsnack says:

    Midds are completely out of track if they let Gary talk. I wonder when Charles will be full and put them at their place.

    There’s something wrong with midds. This desperate pr is obvious why do they continue?

  19. Amy Bee says:

    Harry leaving the Royal Family has really rattled William and Kate. Everything that was written in that Tatler piece was true.

  20. Jan says:

    Someone forgot to let Harry know, he was suppose to be happy being in the lamebridges presence.

  21. Alexandria says:

    These nonsense from sad uncle, camel et al are really getting repetitive. I’ve decided to comment less because everyone has analysed these rubbish brilliantly and have nothing much to add. Same with KKKatie’s fashion. Girl isn’t going to change nor care.

    But I do wish to plead please don’t click on these stories and give the rats income. You can read about them here and they get the click from Celebitchy writers (bless them for wading through these).

  22. Lowrider says:

    Why is her uncle giving so many interviews?

  23. MangoAngelesque says:

    Kate probably can’t even pronounce the word “arbiter” with that ridiculously affected accent she puts on.

  24. Linney says:

    Instead of various sources/uncles/royal correspondents writing and talking about how amazing Kate is, why can’t she SHOW us this by her own actions? If someone has to be continually “embiggened,” there’s a definite problem. I don’t understand why “Team Kate” doesn’t understand how much worse they make her look.

    • swirlmamad says:

      Yup. All they’re doing is underscoring how lazy and useless she actually is — we do have eyes and ears, in case they weren’t aware. It’s quite clear that everything they say she is, the opposite is shown to be true.

  25. Esme says:

    I’m puzzled by the Uncle Gary Media Offensive:
    – is it to add a bona fide “voice of the working class” to the Sussex Bashing? (don’t tell me he has money, he’s working class. Look at that waistcoat, it probably gave Charles a minor stroke)
    – is it to keep the Midds into the narrative without over exposing Carole?
    – is Micheal tired of PR games, so Carole is sending out her brother?
    – is UG being positioned as the working class alternative to Earl Spencer as a royal commentator?
    – UG is careful to stress “Kate is great, and William was always polite to me, so he’s not a snob” (unlike the turnip toffs freezing out Kate, he means), so I guess a lot of this is still about Rose/Tatler

  26. AVEA says:

    Oh god, are we going to be getting interviews about how amazing and keen™ Kate is from this random man weekly now?

  27. Zapp Brannigan says:

    *They give us a sense of stability and they’ve kept their dignity*

    Dude is smoking too much of that stuff Carole grows in her garden. Doing the same stuff over and over again, even though it’s not working, is not “stability”. “Dignity” now means hiding a sexual predator among their ranks, does it? Give it a rest Uncle Wife Beater.

  28. KS says:

    Maybe talking about family problems is a cultural issue? Like…they think that talking is bad and if he’s talking it’s because he’s trying to take down the monarchy? Like…maybe…maybe he’s talking about it so others feel comfortable seeking help and all he can share authentically is his story…maybe he’s not trying to take anyone down at all.

  29. Lilian says:

    I just imagine this.
    Phone rings in KP
    Hello! Ah Kween Kate, it’s your uncle Gary how are things going ? How was your trip to Scotland?
    Hello! Hi Uncle Gary between sobs, things aren’t going well, after all I’ve done bending over backwards laughing my head off trying to bring the peace, he still isn’t happy
    Now now dear don’t cry leave it to me, I’ll tell the whole world what a rock and arbiter you are he’ll come around.
    Thanks Uncle Gary bye

  30. aquarius64 says:

    I believe the Middleton/Boleyns are about to go down. Kate was named in the Oprah interview and I think the Midds led point on the smear campaign and the BRF let them run wild. The family is on the way out.

  31. Mabs A'Mabbin says:

    He looks like Mr. Monopoly.

  32. nicegirl says:

    I’m keen to know the strain G is smoking.

  33. kelleybelle says:

    There is not and never has been anything brilliant about Kate, ever. This coming from a drunken, wife-beating azzhole? Your niece, Gary, perpetuated a lie for years. She’s not even a good person. Nor is her husband for that matter. Sod off, will you. You’re ridiculous.

  34. Kitty says:

    Thing is, good old Gazz was not allowed to de press via de Middleton’s for years because Carole didn’t want to upset Master William or Charles. They always wanted to be respected within those circles thus sending out Gazz would never do, but alas never happened as they are far too common to be associated with, but now a different story, Gazz ie Carole are all over de media, so what has changed ???

  35. intheknow says:

    This behaviour from Gary’s interviews, to the top CEO stories and Kate being the saviour of the monarchy is what psychologists call an “extinction spiral’..especially these Gary interviews.

    They want a reaction and something, (I am guessing from William). These interviews and behaviours are just going to get worse until they (the middlescams) get what they want or they get silenced and thrown out for good. Keep watch.

    Look at William..he’s aged 15 yrs especially in the last 12 months. He loaths to be around Kate. What ever is going down, he looks like he just wants out of the Middlescam grasps.

    He’s not so slowly morphing into Validimort right before our eyes. The jaw clench, the incandescent fist clench…his back molars must hurt like a bugger given that jaw clench. He’s about to have a stroke if he keeps this up for another 6 months. So his options are, get out, get out now or continue looking like Valdimort in which case..whose gonna want to marry him next looking like that?

    I ALMOST feel sorry for him. Pity he’s such an entitled mean spirited racist idiot.

    • Nyro says:

      All of this! Carole’s deployment of Uncle Gary alone ought to tell folks that something is up. And yes, William has aged a lot very quickly. He’s looking like he’s around Prince Edward’s age. That man is not happy.

  36. Julia K says:

    If there is a divorce, and that’s a big if, the question of custody will come up. Shady, dodgey Uncle Gary will be used as a bad influence on the Cambridge children. To protect them from a drug abusing, wife abusing miscreant, the Crown could deny Kate custody. Uncle Gary needs to hush.

  37. aquarius64 says:

    I think KATE is the one that made the skin color comment on Archie. That would be so damaging to the Crown and the monarchy. The FFK (and the future head of the Commonwealth) has a consort who has such attitudes is a REALLY bad look. It wouldn’t matter if the Midds can prove Bill keeps a harem in a wing at Amner Hall; Charles is proof that a sidepiece doesn’t cost you the throne. This has more far reaching repercussions. The Midds resent Meghan ever since Pippa’s wedding because they know Meghan shows what a lightweight Kate is. They are probably afraid Meghan will eventually name Kate.

    • Curious says:

      i wonder if Catherine was sickly jealous, for a long time she was the most beautiful royal among the living royals. Meghan enter and Harry love for Meghan was on fire. Catherine never had a love like that . Meghan is beautiful,educated,and worked for yrs. she is very smart. Meghan was never scared of working. i think even before Meghan started to do events ,Catherine was already jealous of Harry/Meghan relationship.

    • swirlmamad says:

      If it was Kate, Meghan would NEVER have said she was a good person in the Oprah interview, of that I am certain. Wasn’t her. William or Charles.

      • Beach Dreams says:

        Exactly. People need to go back to that interview and listen for the ONE name that didn’t come out of Meghan’s mouth for that whole interview. She didn’t mention Charles by name but at least she referred to him as “Harry’s dad” when talking about the lack of titles for Archie. But there’s one person who did not get ONE mention from her…and that was William.

    • Curious says:

      don’t know if its Catherine. but Harry did say family members. and this family don’t drop by for cake and tea like normal families do . so all i can think about is it must have happened when they all had to be present at the same place. and that is when they spend some time with the queen for summer vacation. or christmas.. this is not a normal family. i mean Harry had to make an appointment to see his grandmother, so its not like they can drop by Princess Anne house and say hello.

  38. Curious says:

    they must be so sorry they drove Harry /Meghan away . Catherine/William can’t seem to work without Harry/Meghan. Gary still talking negative about Harry/Meghan to make Catherine look good, is not working ,its making Gary look like a desperate man. they have nothing new to insult Harry/Meghan with .so its rinse and repeat old fake stuff. their Scotland tour failed. nearly every time Harry/Meghan do something , the royals get busy putting on a show of events . thank god no one knows when Meghan/Harry 2nd child will be born. i am sure if the royals knew the date , they will line up many events to take that spotlight from Meghan.. with Harry/Meghan gone, its the first time i am noticing how lazy and not engaged William is at events. i read some said william has his office, i am thinking what does he need and office for, i doubt he uses it,, he is too lazy to be reading or writing anything in his office.

    • Lizzie says:

      I’m pretty sure the Cambridge kids will be trotted out just as soon as Meghan announces she delivered. They are probably being taught to do cartwheels as we speak to be sure they grab the spotlight.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kind of surprised we didn’t see them out with Zara at the Houghton Horse Trials. They’ve used that as a pap parade in other years.

    • Haylie says:

      I don’t think Meghan would mind having the spotlight taken off her around the birth of their baby girl, considering how awful the press and the family were to her during her pregnancy and the birth of Archie.

      I think the reason the Royals and The Firm don’t know about her due date us because they’d leak that info and use it to hound and attack her. The press would be stalking her and camped outside the hospital.

      I hope she’s able to give birth and take the baby back home without anyone knowing or photographing, like they did with Archie.

  39. A Guest says:

    If there is a divorce, it won’t happen until the Queen passes away.

    Supposedly, the newspaper owners have all agreed that whatever stories they have won’t come out until then out of respect for her.

    After that…

    • Curious says:

      hmm don’t know , i can’t see another woman willingly going through what Camilla did . they have 3 children together, so he seems to have sex with his wife. Catherine will be at a lost if she gets a divorce. she have no working skills. she is not Diana that married at 19 and a virgin and had a cheating husband.. Catherine will not be able to make a living . people are not interested in her. William will never find another woman to love him for him, he seems like an angry man, far from handsome, and all those strict rules and such , nope . william have aged like 10 yrs after harry left. he looks very unhappy. and Catherine balance it with always laughing,well showing a happy face in public.

      • Maria says:

        William’s second wife, if he ever has one, won’t go through what Camilla did. People adored Diana, so that was why Camilla was dragged through the mud.
        If they divorce I’m sure she’ll be handsomely provided for. But her entire life’s work trying to get the crown will have been for nothing.

      • Tessa says:

        Diana and Charles had two children together. But he apparently moved on after that.

      • Curious says:

        I don’t know how it works. but it will be weird if William remarry and his wife will be given what title? his children are still small. Catherine is the mother to the heir. what about her life, can she remarry while her son is the future king? will William be allowed to remarry while his 1st wife and mother to the future king is still alive? william will soon be 40 yrs old, so will he marry a divorce woman with children, or find a single woman with no children close to his age .? Royals have all kind of rules. .Camilla was never a step mother to Diana children.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kate doesn’t love William for himself, she loves the titles, access, wealthy life. She and her family wouldn’t have ruthlessly pursued him through a decade a cheating, and put up with a decade of cheating after the wedding, for Joe Bloggs.

        Kate would maintain the divorced version of the Cambridge title, if they divorce before William is Duke of Cornwall or Prince of Wales. Like Fergie. She’d be Duchess of Cambridge. No HRH and no The in front of it.

        If they divorce after William becomes Duke of Cornwall, she might have a blended title like he might.

        That’s why I think William and Charles would work together on this. Duke of Cornwall is automatic, Prince of Wales title could be awarded years later. That would mean Kate wanders around with the Cambridge title, while William, kids, Wife #2 would use the Wales title.

        If William did pay for most of the Middletons new home with his Diana inheritance? That could be seen as a post nup. Kate wouldn’t be destitute, but she wouldn’t be given a huge settlement or real estate. A grace and favour property, but no real estate in her name. Likely she’d be moved somewhere like Wood Farm, he’d stay at Anmer, kids shared between. If she remarries, she loses access to Wood Farm.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Can always tell a Kate fan by the use of ‘Catherine’.

      • Curious says:

        Thank you @notasugarhere for the makes sense.

  40. HeatherC says:

    What do the Middletons know about Charles’s health that the world doesn’t know? That’s what I always wonder whenever he opens his mouth on how Kate is ready to be queen right now. As in RIGHTNOW!

    • Curious says:

      that is so insulting to the Queen, she made a vow to be Queen till her death bed.. so far she looks healthy .Gary wishing the Queen gave up her Vow,or die .Disrespecting Charles who is to be king after his mother the Queen. Gary is a very rude nasty man, saying the queen and Charles should just roll over and hand it all to William today ..Thankfully the queen hardly meet Catherine family,except for the babies christening. they not invited to tea and such . Gary is desperate to get his hands on some money fast .guess William is not going to use his inheritance to help out Catherine family. and Catherine have no money ,she never had a job to save any money .

    • notasugarhere says:

      Charles is plenty healthy, with a lifetime of the best organic food, health care, easy life, and regular hard exercise with all his wicker fence building. Rosacea and arthritis aren’t going to kill him; he’ll be king for 25 years or so.

  41. Noor says:

    Kate as a Peacemaker? Rewriting history again.

    Kate’s mean girl streak was on full display in the 2020 Commonwealth event. Who can forgot the way Kate cold shouldered Prince Harry and Meghan and the scowl she put on that day.

    Another embiggening article from Camilla Tominey and Uncle Gary.

    • Tessa says:

      Kate also let Meghan take the heat from the media for the ‘crying story’.

  42. Tessa says:

    This man does not know enough to keep quiet. He actually abused his wife and knocked her unconscious on a street. Cannot stand looking at him. He seems to be bucking for a title.

  43. Curious says:

    someone should tell Gary that Catherine is no peace maker. She never came clean about making Meghan cry and let that run for yrs making people hate Meghan. Harry will not forgive her for not clearing Meghan name. she can’t be a peace maker when she is in charge of part of the hell Meghan went through. during Prince Phillip funeral all i could think of when she got close to Harry, that harry was thinking , just step back and don’t talk to me , you caused a lot of damage to my wife.

  44. Liz version 700 says:

    Kate can’t even win a fight with her skirt and the wind… I cannot imagine she will do great at being the great arbiter

    • Noor says:

      Exactly. There were too many incidents of Kate’s dress being blown up by the wind and revealing her bum in Canada, Australia and New Zealand and yet she never learned

      Imagine if she had been Meghan, the tabloids would have torn her to pieces over it. Again double standards.

      To her credit Meghan had never put a foot wrong during her time as a royal and yet the tabloids castigated her at every opportunity.

  45. The Recluse says:

    You know those vindictive courtiers must loathe it when Uncle Gary starts pontificating about Kate and the royal family. How long before they start slapping all of the Middletons down?

  46. February-Pisces says:

    I don’t know what’s going on with the middletons but they are definitely in crisis mode. It doesn’t make sense why uncle Gary is going on record now.

    My guess is Ma must have sanctioned this, cos there’s no way she would let him talk without saying it’s ok. She needs to keep uncle Gary happy after she failed to give back her return on investment. But the middletons are showing their desperation and using harry and Meghan as a reason to voice how threatened they are. The reality is Meghan and harry are no real threat to Kate’s position in the royal family, William is and he’s the real problem, but they can’t say that.

    I mean Kate’s own family is saying the queen and Charles need to step aside for her, and yet that’s ok? Nah it’s the beginning of the end for Kate.

  47. Over it says:

    The midds are broke, have been for a long time. Uncle coke -coke is also in the whole, Willy is bored with his marriage, he however can’t or won’t leave,, they keep pushing Karen the keen because the midds need the money desperately from firm petty. I think pippa husband is tired of financially carrying them and I bet his dad is not happy about him doing it either. So

  48. Mina_Esq says:

    If family meant so much to Kate, she would have embraced her sister-in-law and her shady uncle wouldn’t be lamenting the loss of the “trio”, as if Harry’s son and wife didn’t exist. He is trash, and Kate is in the bin right next to him.