I understand talking smack and creating beefs. I love that stuff and when it’s among professionals, all the better. Let’s have artists fight about who’s the best, let those beefs simmer and really have fun with it. With that said, I don’t understand why anyone even tries to come for Beyonce and Jay-Z. To come for Bey-Z, you better have all of your ducks in a row. You know who could *maybe* pull off trashing Beyonce? A singer who has done as much (if not more) than Bey. Someone like Mariah, or Janet or Shakira. But none of those ladies has ever dared, which should tell you something. Instead, we have Trick Daddy, a 46-year-old rapper who has declared bankruptcy three times. This is who is coming for Bey-Z. Y’all.
This Beyoncé bad-mouther is living proof that murder hornets have nothing on the #BeyHive. Stingers are being sharpened and a swarm of buzzing Queen Bey buffs is declaring digital war against musician-turned-“Love and Hip-Hop: Miami” star Trick Daddy Dollars for saying the 39-year-old “Single Ladies” songstress can’t sing.
“Beyoncé don’t write music and barely can sing her motherf–kin’ self,” Trick Daddy, 46, ranted to a panel in a Clubhouse audio recording which leaked Monday. The Florida native and his cohorts were apparently comparing the honey-voice Houstonian’s talents to those of another unnamed female vocalist.
“Beyoncé can’t sing,” Trick Daddy continued, underscoring his low estimation of the 28-time Grammy Award winner’s ability to powerfully pipe. “Man, I watched my godmama train Beyoncé, vocal lessons all her career,” he added while his Bey-bashing brigade chimed in with their equally hostile opinions of the “Halo” harmonizer.
Trick — who rose to urban pop culture fame in the late 1990s and early 2000s with hits like “Nann N—-a,” featuring Trina, and “I’m A Thug”— then turned his talons on Beyoncé’s husband Jay-Z, 51.
“I’mma give an unpopular opinion right now: Beyoncé is to R&B what Jay-Z is to New York. That’s why they together,” he said. “Jay-Z ain’t never won the greatest rapper alive. Whoever put him on a level like that?”
The “Let’s Go” lyricist went on to claim that the untimely murder of Brooklyn rapper Biggie Smalls in 1997 left a void in New York hip-hop; thus, the “99 Problems” performer was unanimously promoted to fill it. “New York lost [Biggie], they needed a hero because they wanted to be the Mecca of hip-hop,” he said, They just handed it over to Jay-Z.”
If I’m being completely honest, I don’t think his criticism of Jay-Z is that far off-base. I think Jay-Z is super-talented! But yeah, “greatest rapper alive” is, um, very subjective. As for what he says about Beyonce… she CAN sing. She has a nice voice. Is she the greatest vocalist ever? No. But she’s talented and she can sing. As for the idea of Beyonce not writing her songs… like, that’s a very insider-y music industry thing, who writes what and who gets credit for it. Beyonce “co-writes” a lot of her songs and there’s been lowkey speculation about just what she’s contributing to songs which carry her songwriting credit. That gossip has been around for years, it’s not like Trick Daddy was the first to say it. We won’t know until years from now, honestly.
The beehive coming for Trick Daddy: pic.twitter.com/DKGfJWf5gE
— Elephant_Heart (@HeartElephant) June 22, 2021
Restaurant owner and ‘rapper’ Trick Daddy shades Beyoncé, leading her fanbase to lower his restaurant rating to a 2.9 and counting. pic.twitter.com/Yep7sJSR06
— Pop Base (@PopBase) June 22, 2021
Trick Daddy was on Clubhouse saying Beyoncé can’t sing.
The Beyhive found his cell number 🐝 pic.twitter.com/1Atabgifmw
— chris evans (@chris_notcapn) June 22, 2021
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Who said Jay-Z was the greatest rapper alive ? … that’s nonsense.
I don’t care for Beyonce, but yeah, she can sing.
It’s a lyric in one of his songs and has carried for promotional purposes as that single line. Nothing more.
ahhh thank you!
Most pop artists don’t write their own songs, or if they do its alongside multiple other industry names and theirs is listed last, making their contributions dubious at best. Who expects these people to write their own songs? Seriously? Also, jay z isn’t that good and hasn’t been since the 90s. The only point I’ll dispute is that Beyonce DOES have a good voice, and can sing live which a lot of artists still do NOT.
It’s also very interesting to me how it’s routinely women who get critiqued and torn down for not writing their own music. Like somehow all credibility is lost if you don’t. But you neverrrrrr see these conversations around men who don’t write their own music.
Oh yes, I alway side eye a man who says a woman didn’t really do something.
Beyoncé sounds amazing live and on top of all of the dancing she does. He could make an argument about her writing, but come on, to say she can’t sing? Really?
And then Swift catches all kinds of shit because she DOES write her own music. Can’t win! Can’t imagine why…
Yes, and it’s so convenient for a man to try to take women down. It’s usually a case of a man with major issues, his ego mostly, that enjoys trying to destroy strong and independent women.
I don’t know who he is, and I don’t care, but he seriously needs to STFU and sit down.
I see somebody needs some attention.
I’m sorry, but as much as I love Janet, she’s no stunning vocalist. Shakira sings like a goat. But they do their thing and have catchy tunes.
It’s not like Trick Daddy is writing anything profound. I know your discography, sir.
Clout chasing is weird.
Hah! Exactly, let’s take a look at his music and see what profound lyrics he’s putting out.
Shakira is better in Spanish and writes all her own music, in multiple languages. Saying she sounds like a goat because you’re not a fan is just mean.
She sounds like a goat in Spanish as well. I loved Shakira growing up because I’m a fellow Latina who loves rock music, but she’s never had a good voice.
@Asiyah I don’t agree and it’s mean to say she sounds like a goat. She has a beautiful voice, sorry you can’t appreciate it.
she totally sounds like a goat. she’s a great songwriter, though, and i respect her craft i prefer her spanish music to her “american pop.”
I don’t care for Jay-z as a rapper, give me Kendrick or Migos all day, but duuuuude you are really going after Bey?! That’s some nerve there. I hope you are ready for the Beehive.
Beyonce doesn’t write her own songs. She changes a word here and there and gets credited. Her voice is ok. Not like mariah or adele. And jayz isn’t the best rapper ever. They are both great performers though. But I’m just not really a fan of either.
+ 1
Mariah has an amazing voice but unpopular opinion, Adele’s isn’t the end all be all. She can clearly sing, but I don’t believe she is incredible.
I agree with you, JT. Adele’s voice isn’t great.
Adele is so overrated. Every one of her songs sounds the same to me.
I also don’t think she takes care of her voice. Between her smoking, and drinking and her singing technique, she’s done a number on her vocal chords. I think she’s had one or two surgeries to fix things. In contrast, Beyoncé never smoked, doesn’t drink much, and still takes singing lessons so she can sing properly without damaging her voice. I personally think on a technical level Beyoncé is better than Adele. Also, as you age, your voice changes so your technique should reflect that. Beyoncé at 39 sings differently than at 20.
Adele’s voice grates, and not only when she’s doing the “emotional” bits. Yes, it was an overrated voice to begin with and now it’s damaged.
you speaking the truth
Welp, people can have opinions, even if their opinions are wrong!
On a separate-but-related note, these insane fandoms are terrifying. Like the frothing-at-the-mouth defense of someone you don’t know AT ALL, who has been basically created by a marketing machine, attacking someone you don’t know AT ALL, it’s just weird! Like… tracking down cell numbers, writing reviews for a restaurant you’ve never been to… Who has the time or the f*cks to give???? And obviously not exclusive to the Beyhive whatsoever. I just don’t get it!
I was just thinking the same thing about the fandoms. Like first, Beyonce and Jay-Z will be JUST FINE no matter what this dude says, they don’t need you (the fandom) “protecting” them or getting revenge for these slights.
I don’t know if I would ever come to a celebrity’s defense in such a strong way. I might rant and rave in my head but in real life I’m just going on about my day.
And! Even if someone was just discovering Bey and Jay for the first time it’s not like they will go “oh Trick Daddy says they are terrible i need to stay away.”
Funny how comments about “crazy fandoms” always show up in articles like this one, but never when it’s time to criticise white fandom and random fangirls of bland white men that clutch pearls if anyone says their white fave isn’t the absolute best.
Don’t get me wrong, I think the beehive is Extra and don’t mess with them. But I just find it funny how nobody comes this hard for white celebrities’ fandoms.
Don’t forget the sports fandoms, consisting of men throwing bottles at each other.
Very valid point. When we see the rabid and toxic nature of primarily white fanbase, it’s always excused. The voices calling for Beyoncé to basically “take responsibility” for her fans and to put out a statement to “reign them in” is always SO LOUD but the you never see the same for insert-any-white-artist-or-celeb here during similar moments. And as I said, def not exclusive to the Beyhive but I should be mindful of where I’m putting that energy!!!!!!!!!!!
Didn’t he recently go on a rant insulting black women? Trick been trash for awhile.
You have to go on Twitter to see her reply it was brutal.
I think Beyonce is a great performer, and what makes her the high profile artist that she is, is the incredible team she works with and that indeed, write her music.
I think everyone knows that Beyonce is not just a person but a team.
Jay z however is a great rapper. He is very innovative and genuinely talented.
Definitely one of the greatest out there.
Have we learned NOTHING from the last couple of years? If you want attention and media coverage, say something controversial, preferably negative and BOOM people know your name when they previously didn’t. Example: this person I have never heard of. (though obv I know Beyoncé and Jay Z)
On Twitter a woman dragged trick daddy, apparently he had a beef with her, it was brutal, she said his face makeup makes him coffin ready and he don’t own the restaurant, so the business is taking a hit.
Coffin ready!!! OMG I am dead!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’m not a Beyonce fan at all but there are way more people in the industry that are marginal singers than her, why come for her. Maybe this was leaked because he thought it would boost his career but I think he will regret it this real quick. Start the apology tour in 3,2,1…..
Same…I am not Bey’s demographic at all, but having said that I can respect the talent and the drive just because I don’t download all of the music. I have a few songs on rotation though which is a testament to the talent and who doesn’t have their own inner Sasha Fierce?
I mean he didn’t really lie. When Black folks say you can’t sing, we aren’t saying you can’t hold a tune. We’re saying you aren’t a great vocalist. And Bey isn’t. She’s better than Alicia and that’s all imma say about that.
We already knew Jay wasn’t a great rapper. That’s not news either.
Nas ethered him and he recycled a lot of Biggie’s lines back in the day. I really loved Jay’s older albums. I rock Reasonable Doubt and the Blueprint heavy. But he’s only a G.O.A.T. primarily due to his longevity and popularity. You can make the same case for LL Cool J who wasn’t one of the best rappers, but he had a long career that started in the 80’s and went into the aughts. His last album was 2013 but it got crickets lol.
I feel like both Bey and Jay’s popularity would have already faded if they never hooked up and they were judged separately. Bey has perfect pitch and can hold a note, but she’s definitely not on peak Whitney, Mariah and Celine, levels. Deborah Cox, Anita Baker, Teena Marie as well. Plus I feel like she doesn’t really convey emotion when she sings. Say what you want about Mary J Blige, but when she sings you can hear her pour her heart and soul and all the emotion in her music. Jazmine Sullivan is another one who’s voice gives me chills.
Beyoncé doesn’t need to be Mariah, Whitney, or Teena Marie, she’s Beyoncé and I don’t think she tried to be anyone else. She has her own flair and style and that’s ok. But to say that she can’t even sing? Beyoncé can do operatic style vocals. Her singing is crisp, even live, and she clearly is talented.
@JT
I never said she can’t sing or said she was trying to be the other artists.
I mentioned them because their vocal talents are far superior to Beyonce’s and especially as of late to where her register seems to have lowered and she doesn’t seem to sing in higher keys anymore. Nothing I have heard Beyonce sing is difficult to master in terms of vocal skills for a more experienced singer. She is a decent singer, she is a talented multi-hyphenate, but she’s not anywhere near the level of some of the best singers of all time. Is she better than the current crop of singers like Swift, Selena Gomez, Rihanna, Billie and Olivia Culpo? Absolutely by miles. But they are also much weaker singers in general.
Oh I didn’t think your were saying the she couldn’t sing at all. I agree that she is no Whitney, however she is a skilled singer, which I don’t think people give her credit for. She doesn’t need to be Mariah in order to be considered skilled. And yes, her voice has changed and that can be attributed to age; your voice changes over time. Beyoncé’s has gotten deeper with time and you can actually tell the difference. Even SHE knows the difference, which is because she sings differently than she used to. She still takes singing lessons to make up for the changes.
Tell it.
I’ve seen Beyoncé live 3 times and she can SING. And while I’m in no way qualified to judge the greatest rapper of all time, I’ve also seen JayZ perform and the man is a talent to behold. But okay, my dude.
Beyoncé might not have the best voice but she is damn good on live performances and putting on a show! I don’t like or listen to a lot of her music but I’ll watch her live performances on Youtube ! It’s freaking good
I left at least 10 bee emojis on his page after he made this comment 😌 Aside from that, I’ve never seen Trick Daddy mentioned here before? Surprised you’re covering this. He’s awful and disrespectful so his comments aren’t surprising.
It’s because he’s talking about the Carters. They usually generate some umm interesting commentary whenever they are discussed. I thought theses comments would be much worse…but it’s early yet.
Very true… I need to read through and see how many people agree with him lol.
Is Beyonce the best singer? Nope, but she can put on a SHOW! I honestly don’t believe that she writes her own music but getting a credit on songs puts more money in her pocket than just being the artist and I ain’t mad at her for using her power to put more coins in her pocket. A LOT of artists do this so, no biggie.
In Beyonce’s case, she doesn’t write almost all see any of these songs , but she still gets writing credit for every song she sings because it’s like what she works. It’s different from a singer like Whitney Houston or Aaliyah who were just performers and they weren’t trying to pretend to be other things.
Throughout her career, Beyonce claimed to have written songs when she had only made minor adjustments.
By the way, her most famous litigation was in 2008, when she said she wrote “Irreplaceable” so everyone in the industry knew that Ne-Yo wrote that song. The same thing with Keri Hilson and recently in the album Black is king with the title my power by Yemi alade. Between that and all the plagiarism of visuals and choreography, Beyonce is an artist who can and must be critical for that but to say that she does not know how to sing, when she is literally not surrounded by singers who fight against singing (Rihanna, Selena Gomez, Katy Perry etc …… it’s a joke.
In Jay-z’s case I don’t consider him to be the best rapper ever, alive or dead. For me Tupac, Nas, Rakim, Kendrick Lamar are better storytellers, and Biggie, was a much better lyricist.
Wait, I’ve never heard about this, what happened with My Power?
Quite a few industry insiders don’t speak kindly of bey or Jay privately. They’re a protected couple to the point when things do come out against them the stories get squashed faster than a royal affair.
They are hard workers, great performers, top investors and have perfect branding.
Trick Daddy was good for his time, but he has been vile towards Black women for a while now. So even though I have a fondness for his old music as a respected artist, he can kick rocks. Jay Z is a great rapper, but lyrically he has gotten lazy the last 5 or so years. His last great commercial album was American Gangster, and his last great content album was 4:44. Beyonce can hit Opera runs, so people saying she can’t carry a tune or sing are probably thinking about her old work. She’s evolved, and her voice has evolved with her. She can sing her own backgrounds and layers, that’s actual vocal talent, and that’s more than a lot of people out now. As for her songwriting, I don’t think she’s a real songwriter in the sense of a Taylor Swift, but I think she contributes o the songs, so she deserves credit for that. Trick Daddy deserves this drag, and I’m off to Twitter to snicker.
You said what I was trying to say but more concise. She grows and evolves her singing with her age and she improves. Today Beyoncé can crush her Destiny’s Child vocals in a second. She can SING and that becomes more apparent when seeing her live. Most singers can barely belt out note just walking on the stage, while Beyoncé does whole ass routines and you can hardly hear her breathe. I’m just tired of people saying that Beyoncé has no talent and can’t sing.
“Most singers can barely belt out note just walking on the stage, while Beyoncé does whole ass routines and you can hardly hear her breathe.”
You realize that she’s doing that to a pre-recorded backing track, right? It’s pretty standard now when touring and doing live shows. The artists mics are still on so they can ad-lib here and there for the appearance that its all live so that they can save their breath and energy for the choreo heavy routines. So they half lip sync and half sing. Singing from ones diaphragm, monitoring your breathing between notes while also doing some of these high-impact routines for an entire 5 minutes non-stop per song is extremely difficult to do for anyone. Even MJ used backing tracks.
I agree. The whole Beyonce can’t sing thing is annoying. Look about 10-12 years ago I was a causal fan who didn’t like the Beyonce machine. But I grudgingly had to give her her due as the years progressed and now I am just amazed. Beyonce puts that work in and her craft is better for it. You know who can’t carry a tune, bless her heart, Rihanna– can’t even perform with a backup track live. She sounds terrible. She’s not a song writer and she hasn’t tried to improve her vocal styling at all, but she’s great at creating a mood. No one piles on her or tries go drag her for it. Beyonce took the time to become classically trained and yet people still dog her. Listen to that superior background vocals on Flawless. She can do that without backup or voice doubling.
@Regina Beyoncé does have a backing track, they all do, but she does sing live for extended periods of time without it and well. This is known. In fact, she is known for singing live and dancing, while still sounding very good, which is why she is touted as one of the greatest performers. Those same singers who only rely on their tracks are out of breath for the few minutes that they do sing live. Like Rihanna . Mariah Carey is mostly just backup track nowadays even though she only stands there most of the time. Beyoncé would never.
Imara
Beyoncé’s voice is not Operatic. She hasn’t the ability which is not to say she doesn’t have a powerful and wide ranging voice.
For opera singers their voice is an instrument. And that is not the same as a singer.
The lines in the sand on this have been well established. She can grow her abilities and not yet reach what very few have.
I didn’t say was an Opera singer but she is documented as having trained and studied Operatic style because she wanted to strengthen her voice and craft. So she’s able to do more than your average pop singer when performing live. So anywhoodle I give her props over it because that shows respect and determination with her craft. Kudos to her.
Jazz singers’ voices are very much also instruments. Ella, Sarah Vaughn, Betty Carter, Cassandra Wilson.
I have a PhD in poetry and Jay-Z is a master lyricist. He is really really good. I say this as someone who has studied tons of poetry for decades. Others are also good.
All art criticism is subjective. There is no greatest–just folks who are excellent in different ways. For example, I adore Sade Adu, Marc Anthony, Sarah Vaughn, Erykah Badu, Natalie Maines, and India Arie. They are all very different, and to me, all sublime.
Im pretty sure Solange came for Jay Z in that elevator…..
Beyonce is a fantastic singer. You can criticize a lot of things if you want but that ain’t one of them. I’m not a huge Jay-Z fan but he IS one of the great rappers of my generation. Trick Daddy should have just sat there and ate his food. His a$$ can’t even rap anymore without getting out of breath. Someone on Twitter said it best: Trick Daddy looks like the melted brownie in a kid’s cuisine meal.
She can definitley sing but her voice isn’t beautiful.
I like and respect Beyonce as an overall artist but I never understood why people think she’s the second coming of christ.
I’m not saying I agree with this man far from it, she cand sing, dance, again she’s a great artist and I respect her for all she has accomplished but is she really THE goat?
For me she is one of the goats but to be constantly venerated as a saint or the best think to happened to the world isn’t that to much?
Sorry if I offended some of you, but sometimes I wonder if this is more of a “american” type of mentality, because I honestly never notice that kind of workship in europe.
(english is not my main language sorry for the errors)
I don’t know much about Jay Z, but didn’t he “inherit” other artist’s material and has been releasing some of that stuff as his own?
As for Beyonce, she is a great performer. Again, I’m not her biggest fan but listen to some of her music, have watched her shows here and there and they are amazing. She hires truly talented people and lets them shine, which is not very common. Her vocals suffer from so much dancing, but isn’t that what pop music shows are meant to be? The performer chooses dancing or singing, never both.
She can sing but it doesn’t mean that she is an artist or that she has talent. It’s just a skill. I’m biased though because I don’t think highly of performers in general.
Eh Jay-Z is maybe in the top 10.
There are so so so many great rappers and it depends on what criteria you are judging in. Word use and speed is Eminem followed up by Busta, but there are so many criteria to judge such a wide and varied field of artists on.
Also no one need to talk smack about Bey- she is a national treasure.
People are entitled to their opinions. Relax!
I hope he has a case of Epi Pens for all those stings he’s about to get.
😂 This made my day.
Personally I don’t like most of her songs. The only song I really like is “ Freedom” with Kendrick Lamar. It was very well known back in the day that Beyoncé had a team of ghost writers and she always was included in the writing credits.
P.S the song “ Single ladies” makes me want to stab my eyes out
I’m not attacking Beyonce here, but I do wonder. She is so secretive and there are no leaks in her world. If things were shady or scandalous we wouldn’t find out for some time if ever. There have always been squashed stories of assistance in vocals and dancing.
And not a lot of people realize almost all singers have a professional singer record the song first. Then the star listens to it to know what notes to hit and how to make it sound. I personally knew the singer that did this for Christina Aguilera. And Beyoncé has these people.
Ohhh…The BeyHive is going to lose its mind.
Everyone knows Jay-Z ain’t the greatest rapper. He is a great artist, though. Kind of like how Madonna isn’t a great singer, but she’s a great artist. As for the best rapper, I actually give that honor to Eminem. He can flow like for real on cue at any moment.
Bey is a beautiful singer. Again, another great artist and singer. No, she is not a songwriter, but she still make hits.
It’s fine if he doesn’t like Beyonce or her music, but to say she can’t sing is just dumb. Is she as talented as Whitney or Mariah were before they ruined their voices? No. But Beyonce can hold her own and she’s a great entertainer. We all know she doesn’t write much of her own music, but most singers don’t anymore (unfortunately). I think she does have a clear vision with each album and a particular sound that she’s aiming for, so she’s very involved in that way.
Jay Z is considered one of the greats by many, but it’s all subjective. I like a few of his older songs, but I don’t think he’s done anything note worthy in years.
Beyonce is not my cup of tea. I don’t like the tone of her voice or the music she sings. (I’m more of an indie girl.) That said, objectively speaking she can carry a tune and is a consummate showman. Beyonce is a well-crafted brand, and she works her ass off as the ambassador. So, kudos to her.