Frances Bean Cobain’s open letter to Ali Lohan: Your idea of fame is infamy

Frances Bean Cobain, 17, the daughter of tragic rock icon Kurt Cobain and crazy trainwreck Courtney Love, has penned an “open letter” to Ali Lohan using a utility that lets you write long blog entries and then re-posts them in the right length segments to your Twitter account. It’s called Twerbose, and what is the point of that? Twitter is for status updates and brief musings. Write a blog entry on your Facebook account if you want all your friends to see it.

Frances has since deleted what is claimed to be her Twitter account, but her original very long tweet remains up on Twerbose. Frances’ entry makes much more sense than her mother’s Internet ramblings, but you can see that she sadly takes after her. She has this kind of pseudo-intellectual style riddled with grammatical errors and full of grand pronouncements about the nature of fame and artistic integrity.

Your not entitled to anything simply because your sister has a recognizable name. Your idea of fame isn’t fame. It’s infamy. You want to be famous? Work your ass off and make decisions that could potentially catapult your career into a lasting one. Notariety for who you are and notaritey for the work you produce are two completely differnt things. I understand that you have been brought up in an envirtoment where the idea of fame is easily achievable but, that’s not an excuse. You lack the talent, social understanding and credibility to be anything other then infamous. Your careere choices, thus far, will transcend a future career as someone who attempted to be famous, but never quite achieved it. And if you do, it will be the formality of fame that puts you on the covers of tabloids, while the public idly watches you plumit into the murky abyss shared with the likes of Spencer Pratt & Jon Gosslin who, i’m sure, will steal your money whilst there. Fortunately for the world, there are people who have and don’t have recognizable names, who have obtained artistic integrity and will one day, hopefully, bring that tangible artisticness into light again. Though, its hard to think thats achievable when people like You ali lohan are rendering the world of true talent by attempting to make your entitled ass noticed. How is this fair to the people who HAVE artistic integrity, or a mind? How is it fair to those who truly have something to offer the human race other then a dwindling last name and a few shitty films, both of which, solidified the idea that your just a celebrities sibling. I recognize that i might come across as harsh and no, i don’t personally know you, but its the actions that you take, that speak for you. You blatently don’t care how your recognized, its the objective to get famous and that is what makes you replaceable and a recycled idea .Well, im ashamed to have to be grouped into the same category of person as you. I would rather die a most painful death the be assoicated with the kind of careere your trying to make for your self. I hope i’m wrong because generally i’m not a very judgmental person, but in the case of you, that is MY entitlement.

[From Frances Bean Cobain's Twerbose account via Gossip Rocks, ONTD]

I would assume that Frances had some run-in with Ali that’s causing her to flip out, but she writes that she doesn’t “personally know you but its the actions that you take, that speak for you.” Frances and Ali are both in NY – I found photos of Frances and Ali out shopping in lower Manhattan on the same day, 8/19/09, so it’s possible that the paps were following Ali and Lindsay in that area and that’s how they honed in on Frances. She could be annoyed that they were following her due to Ali and Lindsay, but that was weeks ago.

What is Frances rallying against exactly, Ali Lohan or a culture that tries to pigeonhole her into a stereotypical type of fame? Don’t hate the player, hate the game. You would think these two would have something to bond over, what with both having erratic, publicly embarrassing family members addicted to prescription drugs. Frances was rumored to have been offered the role of Alice in the new Tim Burton Alice in Wonderland film, but is said to have passed in favor of going to college. She should take a few English classes, that’s for sure.

Frances is shown out in NY on 8/19/09 and 8/22/09. Ali is shown on 8/1, 8/19 and 9/6/09. Credit:

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  1. Heavenbound says:

    Frances looks as crazy as her Mum.

  2. Praise St. Angie! says:

    she was railing against Lohan, for the same reason I’ve mentioned in the past.

    Ali Lohan wants to be famous, she’s been quoted as such. she never says “I want to be an actress” or “I want to be a singer” or “I want to write movies” or anything like that. Her quote was basically “I want to be famous like my sister is”.

    “You blatently don’t care how your recognized” is spot on. Ali just wants people to look at her – she doesn’t seem to care why they look.

  3. ITS says:

    I actually agree w/ her Frances Bean —- I’m not sure why she picked Ali Lohan ~~~ her statements about entitlement and ‘false fame’ are spot on.

    and I don’t think she sounds ‘crazy like her mum’ — she’s actually well spoken for a teenager!!!

  4. Mel says:

    Bravo Frances Bean. Grammatical and spelling errors aside, beautifully written and bang on!!! Kurt would be proud of his little girl.

  5. Kris says:

    I am with Francis on this one.. I think what she is pissed about is the fact that she is being compared to Ali who is famous for what exactly? Can’t blame her it would piss me off too. Frances seems to avoid the spotlight while others her age actively seek it out and make themselves look like idiots.

  6. TRT says:

    Frances, YOU ARE SOOOO RIGHT!!!!!!
    Thank God someone finally said it out loud (actually put it in black and white).

  7. Meg says:

    While I can’t stand Ali…Why exactly is Francis famous? Oh yeah, because her parents had talent. Her statement is a little ironic since the only reason anyone paid attention to it is because she is exactly what she is complaining about.

  8. nAynAy says:

    Francis Bean is straight on. She hit the nail right on the head!

  9. GatsbyGal says:

    Francis Bean has a good head on her shoulders, unlike her dad.

  10. viper says:

    Im wondering of what choices skyrocket a career into the trivial concept that is fame. Im also wondering why she even cares about somebody elses aspirations. Okay you don’t agree to it – but aren’t you just providing the publicity to this individual by just mentioning them?

  11. TwinkleToes says:

    she’s upset because her mom is broke now and they have nowhere to live.

  12. Lori says:

    What are you saying people? Why the hell did she even have cause to write this in the first place? I don’t care one way or another about Ali, but is this serious?

    Someone give baby a bottle with some opiates in it, chill her the f out.

  13. Alexis says:

    I’d have to agree with Lori. Although Ali Lohan is annoying we all know she’s a famewhore, there’s no legitimate reason to write this.

    Didn’t Frances have a Rolling Stones internesip? I wonder how she got that, it certainly wasn’t her “artistic integrity”

    And I understand the “your” for “you’re” (okay, not really), but “careere”? come on.

    Pot meet kettle, she’s clearly already making her own rules, she has a tattoo and is smoking at 17.

  14. Popcorny says:

    I appreciate and respect Courtney Love all the more having read this letter from her daughter, Frances Bean Cobain, to a peer.
    Grand stuff, especially that it comes from one teen to another.

  15. BiggieShortie says:

    While I completely loath all things Blohan, and Ali is a sorry excuse for a “celebrity” who has made no bones about wanting to be “famous” more than anything in the world, at ANY cost….this seems kind of random and mean of Frances Bean. She ain’t any different. We only know who she is because of her parents. I agree, they should be bonding over that instead of one ankle biter attacking another. Geez.

  16. Nebraska says:

    It appears that Ali’s implants were done by the same surgeon who did Kelly
    Bensimon’s boob job.

  17. Jen says:

    Oh c’mon insignificant people write open letters to celebrities everyday in their blogs Frances is just doing the same.
    And lots of kids have a tattoo and smoke at 17 it’s not unheard of even in the best of families.
    All I can say is good for her for wanting to go to college!

  18. Michelle says:

    While I completely agree with Frances, she doesn’t have much room to talk. Were she not the offspring of Cobain and Love, she wouldn’t have been handed an internship at Rolling Stone at age 15, for example. Not trying to hate because I like the girl, but hypocrisy doesn’t look good on anyone.

    I also find it ironic considering that her own mother, Courtney, doesn’t do jack shit nowadays and is pretty much relegated to infamy herself.

  19. boo says:

    Whether she is right or wrong, that was rude, mean and bitchy. If she really cared about Ali she would have just called her or emailed her.

  20. oh my says:

    Add me to those who think Frances is right on target. I’m really glad she pointed out the difference between people who say they want to be a star and those who want to be artists known for their own talent (preferably real artistic talent and not just self-perceived talents a la Speidi)

    I’m not so sure I agree this is a kettle and pot situation as some have implied. While there are occasional stories about Frances, she doesn’t appear to be going out of the way to obtain coverage or become a star based on her parents’ respective celebrity.

  21. Lem says:

    my hypocrisy knows no bounds. my hypocrisy only goes so far.

    She’s right. It’s tainted.

    For one one today’s teens, for a twt/txt/blog it’s well written. Typo’s are easy enough.(So is spellcheck.)@least no plz U R 2 h8r 4 sho

    @Corny:”I appreciate and respect Courtney Love” ??? seriously?

  22. mila says:

    I agree with Lori, boo and Alexis. She’s personally attacking someone (without any obvious reason)-that is never classy, intelligent or a good thing to do. For me, she comes off as a snotty,entitled, conceited person.

  23. Linda says:

    Really – pot calling kettle black here. Francis is only famous because of her parents.

    Francis – you might want to look in the mirror and take your own advice – while you at it – take a couple of classes in English – writing and spelling.

    For everyone hailing Francis…really what has she done in her life to even comment on Ali!!!

  24. gg says:

    Open Letter to Frances: This is the world we all live in. Get used to it. Railing at somebody who hasn’t done anything to you is not any cleverer than what you rail against. Showing your ass like this is why your mother is infamous.

    If you don’t like certain people for whatever reason, don’t air your personal ego crap. We’re not interested. Ignore it.

    Please learn from this embarrassing mistake of yours and don’t repeat it.

  25. princess pea says:

    Did you know Kurt Cobain, “tragic rock icon,” had atrocious spelling? I am a grammar nazi, and I am willing to give a seventeen year old a pass on misspelling.

    A Rolling Stone internship is not the same as say, an album. (Or in Ali’s case, a movie role) It’s actually work, in an actual office environment, where many people make real careers. Frankly, Frances is two years older than Ali, and I have seem about 500x LESS pictures of her in and out of clubs, in skanky clothes, etc. She isn’t courting fame, as far as I can tell … or do you say the same for every person on twitter? What is twitter (or blogs, for that matter) for if not to blather on about whatever you’re thinking? Should ONLY the famous have them??

    Also, she is seventeen. Most kids that age talk as if they know everything. They tend to think they do. Teens can be really self-righteous and quick to dismiss things (or people) they find distasteful. I think she’ll level out alright in her twenties, like most of us do. Frankly, I’m impressed that she’s as put together and intelligent as she is; growing up with her mom she must’ve had to be the parent in that house sometimes.

  26. Tia C says:

    I totally agree with her, Ali is a ridiculous person, but still – this rant is weird, random and mean. I wonder if she really wrote it…

  27. KateNonymous says:

    I’m not saying she’s wrong, but…is Frances Bean famous for anything other than being the child of two famous (indeed, infamous–heh) parents? How is that different from being the sister of someone famous?

  28. Popcorny says:

    @Linda … I probably overstated with the “more” part.
    I’m just surprised that Courtney (with all her publicized stupor) raised such bright kid.

  29. mamasnail says:

    Francie landed an internship at Rolling Stone at the tender age of 15 and yet she can’t spell, and she has the gall to call out someone else without talent. Spoiled brat nincompoop.

  30. Dingles says:

    “I would rather die a most painful death the be assoicated with the kind of careere your trying to make for your self.”

    Her father said much of the same thing before killing himself, i.e. he’d rather die than become part of the machine he hated so much. The parallels are kind of creepy.

  31. Moore says:

    I have to agree with Lori, mila and the rest of you who are calling Francis out. At the very least she’s 17 walking around with bad grammar and thats sad enough.
    Also, what supposedly started her stupid letter/rant was that she saw some video Ali did like 2 years ago.

    Big deal, Francis. If you weren’t famous for your name, your letter would not be here on a celebrity site. Pot, kettle and that whole thing.

  32. Cinderella says:

    Gee, that open letter could easily apply to her mother.

  33. Shelly Shellz says:

    Who cares if she misspelled a few words????? They could just be TYPOS ppl!! Get over it & stop picking everything to death! U sound like a bunch of catty teen queens calling her out on her grammar and spelling, so childish.

  34. JaundiceMachine says:

    . . . Says the girl who has a Rolling Stone internship based solely on her last name.

    Kurt would be mortified.

    Soul-killing irony aside, she does seem more put together than the majority of her peers, famous or not. I do appreciate her self-drive and motivation, and I really like the fact that she wants to go to school and make something of herself.

    Famous or not, most of us were self-righteous blowhards at 17.
    (And at 25, I’m still a self-righteous blowhard – but at least now I use spellcheck.)

  35. Moore says:

    Shelly Shellz, of course you would say that when you use letters for words. U, ppl? Right. Spellcheck is on the computer for a reason. Maybe she has typos but she doesn’t have excuses.

  36. omondieu says:

    I’m Team Frances on this one. While some may argue that it’s a random, mean-spirited rant, we don’t KNOW for sure what incited this. I’m sure that FranBean had some reason (whether a good one or not–she IS 17, after all) to write this.

    I too would not call this a pot-kettle situation. Frances has no control of her parentage. She, unlike Ali Lohan, is NOT trying desperately to be a star because of her famous relatives. She got an internship at Rolling Stone because of her parents, sure. But she’s not out all over the place with a celebrity relative entitlement card. Networking isn’t reserved exclusively for famous people. How many of us have gotten jobs through family members, or friends of friends?

    Frances stays below the radar, and unlike most celebrity spawn, actually wants to pursue higher education. Good for her, I say!

    I’m a huge spelling/grammar Nazi, but I can forgive those little typos. I think that she just wanted to get her point across–she wasn’t writing a graduate thesis, here. In spite of the errors, she seems like quite an articulate young woman, and I wish her the best.

  37. Shelly Shellz says:


    Thank you for being the one to point that out. You don’t seem childish or petty at all.

  38. twitterwitter says:

    I’d have played Alice. Just saying.

  39. barneslr says:

    What a self important little twit.

  40. Kerri says:

    This is no different to any of us writing about someone else on a blog site or commenting about people and their lives on a site like this.

    The typos are forgivable and her point is valid.

    To those who say that she is only famous for her name, it is not her fault that her parents are or were famous and like some of the other commentators rightly said, she is not out there trying to be in the spotlight and take advantage of the fact that she is famous because her parents are famous. Also while she may get opportunities because of who she is you don’t (I stand corrected) see her out there pimping herself out to every TV station or tabloiod etc. just to be heard or seen or be someone who is trying to be relevant because they are associated with someone who is famous.

    Pot calling Kettle black has absolutely no relevance here and is totally out of context. She like Ali are both associated with persons who are famous but what they are doing with their lives shows that Frances is at least trying to make something of herself not just be famous like her mother or father.

    Furthermore, the only reason Frances is famous at all is because tabloids report on her, that has nothing to do with her.

  41. shelby says:

    Frances is ugly and should mind her own business

  42. shelby says:

    …oh and Frances

    shampoo + water = clean hair

    get the hint grubby girl?

  43. Lori says:

    LOL shelby!

    And her father was over rated. Ya I said it!

  44. The Voice of Reason says:

    omindeu….may I remind you that you have several grammatical errors in your type as well?

  45. RubyKaur says:

    Well, that sure was deep. The best part was when she said “Well, im ashamed to have to be grouped into the same category of person as you.”

    Wow, I never knew she was “a blue blooded aristocrat”….lol. She comes from a family of white trash drug addicts…she sure is delusional.

  46. Trillion says:

    Did Courtney, in a lucid moment, write this letter to herself and then post it as a letter from her daughter to Ali?

  47. oh my says:

    @shelby: if Frances should mind her own business, shouldn’t you?

  48. Moore says:

    Shelly Shellz, do you even remember your first comment? Very mature on that one.

  49. Mary Stevens says:

    Such a tragic, twisted genealogy. Francis Bean’s 86 year old great grandmother, Paula Fox, lives in New York City and is a noted author of fiction for both adults and children. Paula was given up for adoption by parents who didn’t want a child, and in turn she also gave up the child of a teenage pregnancy. This woman, Linda Carroll, is the mother of Courtney Love. In this case, the ‘sins’ of the Mothers have been visited on the children. Sad, very sad.

  50. la chica says:

    it feels like there’s a back story to this that we’re not privy to. something must have triggered this lengthy (and accurate) rant.

  51. Annabelle says:

    WHile I agree with Frances, I don’t understand why she singled out Ali… seems a little harsh because I have never seen Ali do anything other than accompany Lindsay places… like an assistant. If she wants to be famous, she isn’t doing a lot to make it happen?

  52. Jaclyn says:

    Why did she bother to type up a letter containing facts everyone already knows? Ridiculous!

  53. TwinkleToes says:

    Frances is probably pissed because Lohan has a Dad, not much of a Dad, but still- a Dad. Think about it, Frances.

    Both their mothers suck. Just a case of hating in others what you see in yourself but an uneducated 17 year old doesn’t know of this form of projection, yet. They teach it in Psych 101, freshman year.

  54. C-DUB says:

    I wouldn’t be pissed at all for not having a father like that Lohan dude.

    For all the crap that Frances has had to go thru, she sounds like a pretty smart kid (as far as smart teenagers go). I rarely see pics of her and the only out of control stories are usually about her mom. The whole Lohan family needs to move into Dr.Phil’s house or something.

    As far as the typos, I’m sure she sent that whole thing from her Blackberry.

    I like her and I’m glad she’s not doing the whole Hollywood teenager, act a complete ass, thing.

    I don’t blame Ali, I blame her mother.

  55. Butch says:

    God. I can’t believe she’s smoking. For fuck sakes Frances Cobain stop smoking!

  56. McSkurgle says:

    That fat jizzbag is only famous because of her parents.

    Deluded minger.

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