The NY Daily News had this little piece of gossip up over the weekend that I thought was interesting. Apparently, Miley Cyrus doesn’t tip when she goes out to eat. Or, at least, she didn’t tip one time recently at an Outback Steakhouse. Sources tell the NYDN that Miley and her sister Brandi got $70 worth of steak and mac-and-cheese, but didn’t leave anything for the server:
Hey, Miley Cyrus, you made $25 million last year – toss a dollar in the tip cup. The “Hannah Montana” star got $70 worth of steak and mac and cheese for herself and sister Brandi at the Outback Steakhouse in Burbank last Sunday. Our spy says she pulled an envelope of Benjamins out of her purse and handed one over, “but she kept all the change.” Cyrus’ spokeswoman tells us, “She didn’t know she was supposed to tip unless she was eating inside.”
[From the New York Daily News]
I’m going to go out on a limb and defend Miley, because I could easily see how a tipping miscommunication could happen. First of all, at many of these chain restaurants, gratuity is automatically added to the check if it’s over a certain dollar amount. Unfortunately for Miley, I don’t even think that was her reasoning – it sounds like she was just picking up the food rather than dining in, and didn’t think she had to tip. I tip less when I’m picking up, but I still tip. Oh well – lesson learned, Miley. Always tip!
In other Miley-related news, last week CB informed us that Miley had quit her Twitter at the request of her hottie boyfriend Liam Hemsworth. This story would seem to indicate that Miley might be developing something close to a sense of “privacy”. Interesting concept, eh? Of course the closing of Miley’s Twitter account was a cause for concern for Miley’s whackadoodle father, Billy Ray. The Mullet tweeted: “Miley. You are light in a world of darkness. You were born ‘Destiny Hope Cyrus’ for a reason.You can’t leave everyone now. We r countin on u….“it is true one bad apple spoils the bunch”. But listen to the words of your songs ‘Stand… for what ya believe in’…Remember?” After that The Mullet added: “Words can hurt worse than bullets True. All the more reason to take this tool and tweet ‘I’m comin to Chicago and askin kids to stop killin kids.'” Must. Stop. The. Mullet.
So, in response to her father’s tweet-whines and her fans’ complaints, Miley released a You Tube video of a rap that she wrote – all about leaving Twitter. Since I don’t even want to watch the damn thing, I’m just going to take Us Weekly’s word for what the song was about:
It’s a rap for Miley Cyrus! The singer, 16, stands by her decision to quit Twitter by posting a YouTube video in which she raps her reasons for signing off the micro-blogging site.
In the choreographed video, the Hannah Montana star sings that “the rumors are true” that she deleted her account. “I had to say goodbye, and this little rap is to tell my fans why,” she says.
On Thursday, she posted one of her final Twitter messages, saying that her new beau, Last Song costar Liam Hemsworth, disapproved of the site.
“Liam doesn’t have a Twitter and he wants me to delete mine with good reason,” she Twittered.
Still, Cyrus asserts in the video that he wasn’t the catalyst.
“It wasn’t because my friend told me to,” she says. “I stopped living for moments and started living for people… I want my private life private. I’m living for me.”
[From Us Weekly]
As I’ve said before, I have mixed feeling about Miley. While I think she totally has her bratty, ignorant, entitled moments, I also think she’s trying to become a better person. She strikes me as a young woman who is incredibly self-aware and driven, and who has an idea of the kind of long-term career she wants to achieve outside of Disney. Raps about Twitter don’t help her cause, but hopefully she’ll seek out a different kind of quality of fame in the future.
I wouldnt tip either if I were picking food up. there is no server involved. I never tip if I am picking food up to go because there is NO waiter involved besides the person handing you the food. this was stupid to try and out her for not tipping-some disgruntled ass probably felt entitled to a huge tip just because she is rich even though she did not dine in. never thought i would see the day, but im on mileys side on this one.
Is it wrong that she makes me want to slap her?
That said, carry-out’s can be tipped, but it isn’t mandatory. When I was a hostess years ago, I also handled carry-outs and sometimes people tipped, more often than not, they didn’t. I wasn’t all bent out of shape over it. She’s a teenager, so I give her a pass.
Yeah, I never tip for that either.
That child seriously bugs me.
I was totally prepared to be completely annoyed by Miley in this article and video but I’m not at all. And that’s shocking to me, lol.
A. I don’t think it’s at ALL manadatory to tip for take out (and I’m a big believer in tipping generally). If it was, then people would be tipping at McDonald’s, et al. I’ll occasionally tip if the order is a little complicated or something, but even then just a small percentage.
B. the video I was prepared to wretch over was actually really cute and I support her decision completely. I also happen to loathe Twitter because I think it gives a very unwarranted stage to too many boring narcissists. But her reasonings are all very sound and mature. She sounds light years more mature than her own father who’s begging her to come back to it.
I saw the rap and it was horrid…horrid i tell you!!!
i don’t get how she previously twittered that she deleted the account because of the boyfriend and then said she made the rap to set it straight that she didn’t do it because of him. Such a contradiction. But she is a teenager and i don’t expect her to be the brightest bulb in the room – although i do give her credit for some of her career choices and i agree that she does have a good head on her shoulders when it comes to that…mostly.
Well at least she has the sense to finally realise that she should keep her private life private after she has been blogging and tweeting about everything she does for the past – how long?
Finally, less Miley overload.
By the way i am so sure Billy Ray does not like this new boyfriend. lol. Let the teenage fall outs with her parents begin.
I never had takeout at chain restaurant so I don’t know if anything is different but I wouldn’t have left a tip either. I’m assuming your order is just given to you by an employee. I don’t see how that’s any different from going to McDonalds. I’m sure most people don’t tip for takeout. I think it was a slow celebrity news day and somebody is trying to make her look bad.
When I pick up food that comes straight from the kitchen without a server, I don’t tip either.
I have to give the girl credit for making a grown up decision despite the fact HER OWN FATHER – the real grown up in this situation, is pushing her to keep texting about her private life to the world.
A girl I used to know was a to-go girl at a chain restaurant and she claimed they only made what waiters/waitresses make, so they needed the tips.
But then another girl who works as a to-go person at a different chain restaurant was begging for tips because she “only makes minimum wage.” Um yeah, I only made minimum wage for a while and no one tipped me!
So, I generally don’t tip when I pick up an order. Especially if I actually have to go inside to get the order. I had one girl seriously look at me like “no tip?” No ma’am, you do not get a tip for handing me my dang receipt and a bag of food that someone else cooked.
If there was a tip “jar” present, she should have taken the clue to tip. That said, there may not be a server but someone packaged the food up and then bagged it making sure all of the sides and “tools” were there so a tip (not 15%) is appreciated.
This is just another clue that she’s just a 16 year old hillbilly who will not be relevant in a few years.
I RARELY tip on to-go orders. Unless my take out is a big one, or it’s a complicated order without things and added something in it’s place, I wouldn’t tip. I’ve worked in restaurants before and the people that usually work the to-go counter or handing you the food are either the host/ess or someone specifically for the take-out side. Either way they make much more than servers do because it isn’t considered a tipped position. Besides, I ignore tip jars that look like an employee created it in general- they look tacky. Also, some restaurants charge extra for take out. I went some place that charged $4, why would I also tip you then?
I can’t believe someone at Outback would ever complain they didn’t get tipped. If it were any other person they wouldn’t care but since they figure she’s famous and has a ton of money they were obligated to tip when not everyone else is pisses me off.
I really like Miley, I could do without her short cut off shorts she’s been pictured in lately, but I like her in general and think she’s very talented. I feel bad that someone’s trying to make her out to be a bad guy.
When will people stop giving this girl a pass for her behavior based on her age? Geez. I got my first job when I was 13 years old in a Tex mex restaurant(under the table) as a hostess/cashier/busser/waiter and I knew from early on you tip. And generally its more than 20%. But then I was really young and cute and people liked giving me money even if I forgot the silverware or salsa! And I was always tipped for carryout.
And by the way, I had Outback yesterday and my server was a twat. I think she was new or nor generally a server cause I asked my burger mid-rare and she proceeded to tell me how unhealthy it was and tried to get me to order well done! I couldn’t believe it! I would have never argued with a customer like that! But we still tipped, just not as much as usual.
Whatever, it is NOT standard to tip on go orders. It is nice if someone does, but it is not standard practice. As others have said, if tipping on go orders was standard, then we would be giving tips at McDonalds, Taco Bell and any other place that prepared and bagged our food with condiments and plastic ware.
I normally don’t like her and agree that her father is a wackadoo, but she’s young and sheltered (never had to flip burgers or wait tables herself) and I don’t think she did anything wrong.
But if I made $25 million a year, I’d always tip, and tip generously, even if it’s not expected.
And if I was famous and people commented on every little thing I did, I’d always tip.
On to go orders, sometimes I tip, sometimes I don’t. If it’s one where they bring it out to your car and it involves running in and out a few times (and the person is nice, not rude) I’ll add in a buck or two. I never know if those people make minimum wage or servers wages.
You know, I can’t standstand Miley. She’s an ignorant little twat with a crazy-fame-obsessed father, who both need to disappear.
That being said. I also worked in foods since I was 17 and worked as a bartender/waitress through college and it’s stupid to tip for to-go orders. Maybe a dollar for getting the package together, but really, it’s silly to tip more (if you want to, more power to you! but it’s definitely not mandatory or a bad call on Miley’s part)
It’s like those self-serve frozen yogurt places with tip jars (which is ridiculous!!!!) You get your set hourly rate. If someone tips, great! How nice of them. But definitely. Not. Required.
You tip for service, not for “existing” and doing what you’re already supposed to be doing and what they give you an hourly rate for.
i do tip for takeout, but just a couple of bucks. then again, i don’t make millions of dollars a year. on another note: $70 worth of steak mac & cheese? for some reason that strikes me as funny…gross, but funny.
I waited tables for more years than I care to recount. In most restaurants a server is taxed on the assumption they have earned 15% of their sales. Therefore when someone doesn’t tip – you actually are paying taxes on income you never made, which sucks to say the least. Most waiters do not make much money. If you order to go from a sit down restaurant you should always leave a small tip. It is just common courtesy to the person who took your order and prepared it for takeout. If you don’t want to tip – don’t order from full service establishments.
But guys, you’re forgetting the fact that Outback offers a to go service, as opposed to the other sit downs that don’t.
They have funds allotted strictly for that and it’s called like curbside or something.
Though I will concur that waiters get taxed an automatic 15%. But if it’s like any other standard chain restaurant that offers “curbside”, the people who are scheduled for that probably don’t clock in as servers and are therefore not required to declare tips. That’s assuming they use the standard like posi-touch type system.
I used to be a waitress at Outback. While I was working there, the take-out staff went from being paid minimum wage to $2.13 an hour plus tips. So, I don’t fault her for neglecting to tip, but I’m glad that the awareness is out there now. Now, whenever I get take-out food, I usually tip 10%, not the 20-25 I do when I sit down to eat with a server.
Based on responses nobody is excusing Miley or thinks she’s dumb for not tipping. It’s obvious the norm is to not tip for takeout orders. I see tip jars at fastfood restaurants all of the time. I still don’t tip. The story doesn’t say if it was curbside or if they walked into the restaurant. I would tip for car service but not walk-in. It would be interesting if people called those chain restaurants to find out about tipping takeout. Also if Miley tipped everybody she came into contact with the story would be she’s throwing money around like she’s a bigshot.
Her mouth is in the same position her dad used to get her a record deal in the first place.
” First of all, at many of these chain restaurants, gratuity is automatically added to the check if it’s over a certain dollar amount”
As a server, this is NOT TRUE. gratuity is added after a certain amount of PEOPLE not dollar amount.
For everyone here that says they don’t tip for to-go orders, just be aware what a slap in the face that is to the person who packaged and prepared your order. Most times a server is neglecting their tables in order to help your non-tipping ass. You don’t have tip 20% or 10% just toss them 2-5 dollars, or don’t, but just be aware; you look like a huge douchebag walking out the door.
Oh, and Firestarter; Fast food chains are FAST FOOD. Can you not distinguish whether a tip is appropriate on a 70$ to go order from a steak house or for your 3$ cheeseburger from McDonalds? If so, then you should just stick to fast food.
Oh, and Kikker……..
Calm the hell down! I worked in a restaurant you hot headed fool, so you need not educate me on proper tipping practices!
Pick on some other people who said the same thing as I did! Read all the posts next time before jumping all over ONE poster!
Have a special day!
I think you should tip when you’re at a full service establishment. The people commenting saying “I don’t tip when it’s take out…that’s stupid…” It still takes time to prepare that order and get it situated for you, just like when come in and eat. People who don’t tip on takeouts or put at least a little change in the jar are CHEAP! you have obviously never worked for tips, so you don’t know how hard it is to make a living on two bucks an hour. If you don’t like to tip, then make your own damn food.
I have NEVER tipped for pick up…no way I would either. I paid for the food and cost to prepare. Im not paying for the gratuity when a server isnt involved for an hour waiting on me. When I do eat in and tip…Im a 20 to 30% all the way.
whoa @ Hieronyus Grex…
I don’t think it’s mandatory to tip for a pickup unless some extra added service is given. I tip when I go a place that allows me to sit in my car and someone brings the food to me. I tip at a local restaurant near me because I call so often that the employees that answere the phone remembers who I am and knows what I usually order. I tip when I pick up a meal at a bar and the bar tender offers me a drink off the bill while I wait.
If restaurant staff are hurting from not getting tips on to-go orders then that’s a bigger problem than just 1 person giving them a $5 tip. It sounds like the owners are taking advantage of their staff and trying to pass the buck to customers.
Absolutely correct Shay – about the owners taking advantage of staff. Outback is a great example of it. A previous post said that taxes are taken out based on the assumption servers are making 15% tips. The other thing is that servers have to tip share with the bartenders, bussers, and hostesses. Everyone makes $2.13 an hour. So if your dinner bill is $100 and you don’t tip at all, the server has to immediately take $3 out of their pocket to pay for the other staff. It’s 3% of your sales for tipshare automatically. It really is like stealing. Not only have you not tipped and cost the server the $3 but you have kept him or her from having another table there who might tip. Believe me, $2.13 an hour minus tax for a full time server job is not much of anything after 2 weeks.
why would anyone tip if they are just picking up food? There’s no one waiting on you… Jeez, this American custom of tipping is getting a tad annoying… it’s not like we’re made of money and can just tip willy nilly all over the place… “well, you said hello to me, here’s a 20″… wtf? STOP THE MADNESS!!!
I get my nails routinely and the workers there are just atrocious when it comes to tipping. they don’t speak a lick of english but someonehow they let you KNOW when you’re a bad tipper… it’s a little ridiculous… I’m sort of shamed into tipping $15 at these places and I really don’t make much money :/
I always make it a point to tip for anything food or alcohol related. Pick-up may warrant less than delivery, but I’d still slip them a buck or two – just for saving me time and making my life a little easier. Local or small businesses get an extra buck or two on top of 20% for a sit-down.
Then again, I’m a barista. And I’m continuously amazed at how stingy some of the more high maintenance customers are. And it isn’t necessarily the level of skill, it’s the time it takes for me to process an order.
Multiple orders of fancy lattes, blended ice drinks, extra-dry capps – take time and consideration to make. Time that could be spent pumping out coffee or serving wine/beer, netting the store (and me) more profit in the process. (It doesn’t help it when someone stares for 3 minutes trying to figure out what to order – I lose business while you’re debating over a 2-shot latte or 3.)
I guess they feel that since they’re supporting a local business, they don’t need to tip for my time?
Im not faulting for Miley on this because of the unknowingness of the situation, but for those who are being ignorant, I am an Outback Employee and we have curbise SERVICE. There is actually a lot more than people realize that go into takeaway. Among other things we bring your food to your car. I wouldnt expect 15 -20% but a few bucks would be appreciated.
I have to be honest, I do not tip on pick ups or to go orders (never heard that term before), and I do not mean to upset anyone, but why would I tip? I am not trying to get a rise from anyone, I am just asking.
I am paying the restaurant to make my food and package it, and I am coming to get it, so why should I tip? If I come inside the restaurant, and the waiter/waitress have to deal with me, then I tip, or if I call for a delivery, and someone has to deliver the food then yes I tip them, but I am sorry I do not understand why I have to tip when I come and pick it up.
Someone said above that they have to take time to put the food in containers, but that is part of what the restaurant is paying it’s employees for, after the cook is done, it has to go on to something or it would just stay in the kitchen, and another person said the employee has to take time to ring up the purchase, but that is also what they are paid to do, otherwise the restaurant will close.
I am not tying to be mean or anything, and no I have never worked in that type of environment, I just need someone to explain why I should tip on take out orders, and please understand I do sympathize that staff survives on tips, BUT I need a reason why I should part with my money other than just pity.
whatever, with all these waitresses whining, i’m seriously going to stop tipping altogether… I analyze and study the deepests secrets of the universe and I get paid squat as a post doc… I don’t whine about how people should tip me or for wasting my time or for taking the time to help out and teach the undergrads/grads… or having to answer mundane questions when I could be doing something useful… cuz guess what… THAT’S MY JOB…
waitresses are the whiniest people on this planet… if you hate it so much CHANGE YOUR JOB!!!
im with shadow. im a bartender so i know what its like to be stiffed out of tips, but that is how i make my money. Take out registers are there for us to get our own damn food. Tips are not needed in that situation.
Puhlease. you do not earn a tip by doing your job. That’s your job, and you are paid for it. Don’t like what they pay you? Get a different job.
When I order delivery, I tip like crazy. When I’m in a restaurant, unless my server was actually providing bad service, I tip over-generously. But when I call the greek place on the corner or the pizza place down the street and then I go in for to pick-up my food you’re damn right I don’t tip. (Unless i requested something WAY out of the normal menu options) The total I pay when I pick up my stuff IS paying for it being made, packaged and handed to me. Seriously, when I buy a sweater at a clothing store… Should I be handing over an extra 5 bucks because the chicks who work there had to hang it up?
Tipping for to-gos is a nice thing to do; waitresses aren’t expecting huge tips, even just a buck or two.
In the restaurant I used to work at, the waitresses have to tip out to the cooks. They tip out 4% of food sold, not 4% of tips made.
Therefore, quite often on slow days, I would be giving away tips that I hadn’t made, out of my own pocket.
Outback pays takeout servers lower wages. I am surprised that people do not want to leave a tip, even a few dollars is appreciated. Thank God most people do tip, we depend on it. We split the tips between 3 people. There is more then putting it in the bag. 1st answering phones, calls come in at once, people ask about prices, menu,add-on etc, they keep you on the phone deciding what they want(family wants etc). Sometimes it is hard to understand(cell phones cut out.) It’s very important that we get the order and time right or else we get yelled at. People will call and even complain about different time and place. 2nd person works in kitchen, (they prep condiments, sides,bake bread,get drinks) 3rd person delivers to car(in rain,etc)running back to register to run cc, get change, running back out to car. Be compassionate, put yourself in other people shoes. I don’t think people realize how much we have to pay even if we don’t make it. As a server I have to tip out bar,host,bussers based on sales. If I lose a cc slip or $ we pay it, I have to pay for childcare even if I don’t make tips, if I’m sick I don’t make money(no paid sick days). Working as a server is physically demanding and the hours are crazy. In this economy, people spend less so we make less. I agree that I need to find another job. I also wish restaurants would pay enough that we could get a paycheck, instead of needing to depend on the kindness of people tipping us.
@fizXgirl314 if you hate waiters so much I suggest you stop going to restaurants before someone spits in your food. Your post was completely insulting to people who are just trying to make a decent living doing a difficult job. Not everyone has the luxury of going to school to study the deepest secrets of the universe.
alright i’ll just put a tip jar on my desk so that if anyone has a question they can feel free to depart from their money… otherwise i’ll just spit in their face :/
even prostitutes don’t get tipped and they’re undertaking a great inconvenience…
wa wa wa :/
Tip-outs are not consistent from one restaurant to another. My sister works in a kitchen where they don’t tip out at all. My brother works in a kitchen where tip-outs come from a collective pot (i.e. all the servers, not just one) and only monthly. As a customer, should I be asking about the policy in advance? No, wait, then you’d tell me that it was adding to your workload, right Donna?
Waitresses, you are making yourself look bad here. If you wanted to make a shocking story about not tipping, make it one where the person actually sat in a restaurant. (and good luck spitting in fizXgirl314’s food… I’m pretty sure she’s not wearing a nametag with her commenting handle on it. I’m not, anyway.)
At Outback, to-go people make $2.15 an hour.