There were many comments and theories about the motivations behind the “secret peace summit” between representatives of King Charles and the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. My first instinct was that the meeting was purely about Charles, his health, and wanting to have some kind of tenuous peace with his younger son. Many people thought that the summit was more about optics, and specifically about Charles sending a “message” to Prince William. Both things can be true – Charles can have multiple reasons for wanting to reconcile with the Sussexes, up to and including “he doesn’t know how much longer he has” AND “Charles enjoys putting William in his place.” Keep in mind, this whole story was leaked to the Mail by Buckingham Palace, and at no point in the Mail’s exclusive did they mention William whatsoever. The Waleses didn’t have any “representation” at the summit, because it was (imo) mostly about Harry and Charles. Well, trust that all of the other royal reporters got furious, incandescent updates on the situation. Here’s the Mirror’s exclusive:
King Charles would welcome a Royal reunion with Prince Harry but only if he scales back his public attacks on the family and stops the “endless” interviews, sources say. It comes as it emerged the pair’s senior aides held a secret peace summit, said to be a “significant” step in reuniting the feuding father and son. Insiders now say the “rapprochement process” could heal years of broken relations within the Royal family, but only if Harry, 40, stops conducting “endless rounds of broadcast interviews as his only way of communication”.
However it’s feared that Harry’s fractured relationship with William is harder to repair, after his memoir Spare revealed the two had a physical fight over his relationship with Meghan.The Mail on Sunday today reported talks were held at a London private members’ club that champions international friendship, and whose patron is the King. It is seen as the strongest sign yet of the determination on both sides to resolve the bitter House of Windsor feud. A Royal source exclusively told the Mirror: “The King has consistently shown he loves both his sons and as he has done in the past is prepared to meet Harry when their diaries allow such an occasion. It’s not unusual for aides from different households to meet, especially when there is a new influx of staff starting their roles, but of course this is a significant moment.”
“Senior members of the family have in the past said to Harry that he must both stop his attacks on the family as well as giving endless rounds of broadcast interviews as his only way of communication. If there is a period of calm and reflection on the part of the Duke of Sussex, then there may be a way forward for him to begin along the road of repairing his relationship with his father. As for his relationship with his brother, that is a different matter entirely and one which he will find much harder to repair.”
Re: Harry “must both stop his attacks on the family as well as giving endless rounds of broadcast interviews.” Harry gave zero interviews about his father or his family for several years, and in those years, his father evicted him from Frogmore Cottage, stopped answering Harry’s calls and letters, and repeatedly refused to see Harry when he was in London. Now, just a few months after Harry spoke to the BBC at length about his family, suddenly Charles is willing to talk. Sounds like Harry should keep talking publicly, because that’s the only way to cajole his dogsh-t father into speaking to him in some way. I’m just saying, actions speak louder than words – Harry tried doing all of this privately for years, only to be briefed against, lied about, ignored and denigrated. Whenever he calls out his father publicly, that’s the only thing that gets Charles moving.
As for William trying to push himself into this narrative – it’s the royal version of “don’t forget about meeeeeee!” This is telling: “However it’s feared that Harry’s fractured relationship with William is harder to repair, after his memoir Spare revealed the two had a physical fight over his relationship with Meghan.” You mean Harry’s marriage to Meghan, who was pregnant with Archie at the time? The time that William barged his way into Harry’s home and assaulted him because Harry wouldn’t agree to divorce Meghan on William’s say-so?
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- LONDON, ENGLAND – SEPTEMBER 14: King Charles III, Anne, Princess Royal, Camilla, Queen Consort, Vice Admiral Sir Timothy Laurence, Prince William, Prince of Wales, Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, Sophie, Countess of Wessex, Catherine, Princess of Wales, Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, Prince Edward, Duke of Kent and Prince Michael of Kent pay their respects inside the Palace of Westminster for the Lying-in State of Queen Elizabeth II on September 14, 2022 in London, England. Queen Elizabeth II’s coffin is taken in procession on a Gun Carriage of The King’s Troop Royal Horse Artillery from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Hall where she will lay in state until the early morning of her funeral. Queen Elizabeth II died at Balmoral Castle in Scotland on September 8, 2022, and is succeeded by her eldest son, King Charles III.,Image: 722674734, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: , Model Release: no, Credit line: David Ramos / Avalon
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- The Prince of Wales (right) and the Duke of Sussex before holding a vigil beside the coffin of their grandmother, Queen Elizabeth II, as it lies in state on the catafalque in Westminster Hall, at the Palace of Westminster, London.,Image: 724023537, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Aaron Chown / Avalon
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- Prince Harry, King Charles III, Camilla Queen Consort, and Princess Anne The State Funeral of Her Majesty The Queen, Gun Carriage Procession, Wellington Roundabout, London, UK – 19 Sep 2022,Image: 724224245, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, *** NO UK USE FOR 48 HRS ***, Model Release: no, Credit line: Anthony Harvey/Shutterstock / Avalon
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- (left to right) The Duke of Sussex, King Charles III and the Princess Royal follow the State Hearse carrying the coffin of Queen Elizabeth II, draped in the Royal Standard with the Imperial State Crown and the Sovereign’s Orb and Sceptre, as it arrives at the Committal Service held at St George’s Chapel in Windsor Castle, Berkshire.,Image: 724270306, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: Kirsty O’Connor / Avalon
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- (front row, left to right) The Duchess of Sussex, the Duke of Sussex, Princess Charlotte, and the Princess of Wales during the Committal Service for Queen Elizabeth, at St George’s Chapel in Windsor Castle, Berkshire.,Image: 724425806, License: Rights-managed, Restrictions: -, Model Release: no, Credit line: Victoria Jones / Avalon
What endless round of interviews? He gave an interview after an unsatisfying outcome of a five year long court case. He gave a series of interviews over a three week period two and a half years ago when releasing his memoir, he did an interview with Oprah 4 years ago, and he did a documentary about his own personal experience almost 3 years ago.
So in five and a half years give or take 10 to maybe 15 interviews? Even though if you added together the amount of times him and his wife appeared in articles in the Sun, Express, Mail, Mirror, and GB News in the same time frame I’m sure the count would be in the literal hundreds of thousands? I guess any interview that has him on the record looking directly into the camera saying something it’s worth 50,000 articles.
And William is no different than someone claiming they’ll never get back with an ex that isn’t interested in them. He has to keep telling us he’ll never forgive Harry, that he’ll never meet with Harry, he’ll never forgive Meghan, that Archie and Lili will never be working royals when he’s king, because he knows that they don’t want any of that.
Whatever multitude of psychological issues form that man’s personality, he can’t not be the one in control. And his father plays into it, his wife absolutely does, and to some extent so does his extended family probably just because it’s easier. Harry is the only person that has consistently throughout his life told him to take a hike and he just cannot get over it. Losing full control over him in a way that I really imagine he salivated over while the Queen was alive whenever Harry did something or was allowed to do something that he didn’t agree with, is his undoing.
You’re right. It’s funny how everything he briefs to me the media is about you can’t have this Harold. And it’s stuff that Harry doesn’t even want or care about. But William’s really wants Harry to care about it. And Harry mostly just doesn’t.
Why are these palace idiots riding this thing?
More significant to me is the precise wording “after his memoir Spare revealed the two had a physical fight over his relationship with Meghan,” Not alleged. Not Harry claimed. Not brothers horsing around or other nonsense. Just the facts: they had a physical fight as grown adults. Progress!
Also, in many years of observing the Firm, it seems to me that sibling relationships are ruled as being problems among siblings and the duty of the monarch to deal with sibling to sibling (not an heir). Examples: it was Elizabeth’s problem to deal with Margaret. It was Charles’ problem to deal with Andrew, or Edward (cough dukedom of Edinburgh cough). Now it will be William’s problem after Charles dies to deal with his fractured relationship with Harry, or not. Charles will sort out his relationship with Harry, father to son no matter what the actual motivation, but after he dies, it’s up to William, and no one else in the BRF will get involved.
But they *didn’t* have “a physical fight”, according to Spare. William assaulted Harry.
I believe every word from Harry but I’m just pointing out that media coverage, even now so long after “Spare” was published, went with the weasel wording of “Harry claimed” as if it didn’t happen at all, and if it did it was just Boys and/or Brothers Horsing Around! Like they were six years old.
To acknowledge in print that it was an actual physical fight between adults (which is horrifying) is progress, and it meets with Harry’s actions as a mature adult to give witness and tell the truth. Laying the blame on William properly will never happen IMO
Harry will never reconcile with Willy. They were never close and Willy has showed his true colors daily through the rota since 2016. Willy has been pathologically jealous of his brother his entire life and his deliberate cruelty towards Harry started young. The rota spin that makes Harry the bad guy for speaking the truth while the rota have smeared him and Meghan for nearly a decade at Windsor insistence makes my head spin. Willy may run completely amok when he becomes King (not invite Harry to his con-a-nation, threaten/remove titles), but the only story will be that Harry isn’t there regardless of the rota rats embiggening spin. And. Just like that Charles knocked Keener dragging her lazy ass to Wimbledon twice in 2 weeks off the top of the rota headlines with just a faint glimmer of hope that he will reconcile with Harry before leaving this mortal coil. No matter how much leverage Keen thinks she has, she better be weary of the Windsor rota machine, especially with Camilla pulling the strings.
Well, Harry hasn’t said he wants to reconcile with William, has he?
As the mother of two boys, my younger will always want the love and approval of his older brother— there is nothing the older one could do to him that would be unforgivable! I got the sense from Harry’s book that he desperately wants his dad and bro to see things from his perspective and respect his choices (the way most people who can rationally see the reasons for his choices do!) and treat him like a cherished family member again.
Harry is “over” William. He doesn’t want to reconcile with him. He has said MANY times that yes, he wants to speak to his Dad because, it’s the only parent he has. He said with William he wants “space”. They were never close and William has always been “extra” around his brother.
So Harry should accept the demands of Charles if he wants a relationship. That’s what the rota will be selling. I’m sure Harry has a couple of demands of his own. If they want Harry to stop telling the truth about them, they should stop smearing Meghan and treat her with respect as a member of the royal family and mother of two children who are in line to the throne.
Also after Camilla outlives Charles, she will be a nightmare for William. She will have the press feeding out of her hands while she enjoys her life free of public duties. She will be the supreme palace source.
William doesn’t want to reconcile with Harry and honestly, I dont think Harry is that pressed about it. Reading spare and in his interviews, its clear the relationship (or lack thereof) with his father hurts him. But there’s not that same feeling when it comes to william. Harry has known who william is his entire life.
Charles should be careful that William doesn’t do to him what Edward VIII did to his own father: hasten him to the hereafter.
Harry isn’t the one doing public attacks that’s Chuckles Horsilla and Peg. When he does an interview (and they have been few and far between) he speaks the truth straight from his mouth! He doesnt leak anything. Harry is no fool he won’t settle for bullshit.
💯. I’ve said it before, but I’m so sick of this narrative that Harry and Meghan owe BP an apology. The Wales have been leaking lies to the tabloids for years, physically assaulting Harry (William), lunging at Meghan (Kate) and being generally racist about their mixed-race nephew (Kate).
As you say, Harry speaks the truth out loud, and they can’t stand it. Harry has merely put on the record what William and Charles don’t want the world to know about the Wales’ and Charles’ behavior.
I suspect the best the Sussexes can expect from the Leftovers (both of them) will be a frosty tolerance when mutual appearances are absolutely unavoidable. I don’t see Harry and Meghan grovelling for William’s approval. Harry has grown during his years as a husband, father and activist, in ways that may surprise his blood family.
Sounds like the British media and family want Harry to stop the interviews and correcting the lies they write about him. They can’t write or report their false narratives like they used to if they know he has freedom to correct them and sue at anytime. If I were Harry, I wouldn’t agree to any of it.
If I barge into your house. Attack you, push you down onto. Dog bowl which breaks and leaves me with bruises and you also break me necklace in the process. It’s not called a fight, it’s called N assault because i didn’t lift a finger against you . And can I say if this was anyone else other than William the thug. Their ass would have been arrested and charged with assault. These people really need to stop minimizing what William did and how violent the unhinged man child really is . And I don’t know what the f Harry has to apologize for. These people been leaking and lying and briefing about him to their media lap dogs for years but heaven forbid Harry set the record straight by telling the truth about these lunatics in the Windsor household. Remind me again why Harry is even bothering to try to repair anything with his dog sh father , because I fail to see the appeal
Harry needs to apologise for telling the truth, how dare he tell the truth.
How about William apologize to Meghan for putting his stank azz finger in her face , Kate for stepping to her at the queen funeral outings , Kate for making Meghan and harry wedding all about herself . . The list of the shit the Windsors Have done to Meghan and Harry are endless. Camilla should also apologize for being cowmilla and Chuck for taking away their house and security and for being a dog s father who cheated on harry mother and put harry and his family life in danger . The nerve of these people.
William has done himself no favors by declaring war on Harry. He comes off as deranged and foaming at the mouth. Is this the only diplomacy he has to offer Great Britain? Mad dogs and Englishmen? William cannot control himself with his furies and rages, knocking Harry to the floor in one of his fits. Who would want this? Thank G-d he’ll have no power, unlike our deranged, orange leader.