The royal rota assembled like the Avengers this week, if the Avengers were stenographers to a wilting and culturally irrelevant institution. There’s panic seeping into every part of the coverage of the Sussex family’s return to the UK, and that panic is coming directly from the Windsors themselves. It’s worth noting, as always, that Prince William has a particularly nasty habit of forging his father’s signature in the press – quotes, thoughts and feelings ascribed to King Charles are all too often coming straight from William’s camp. Keep that in mind while reading through these highlights of Becky English’s big briefing in the Daily Mail:
Gritted teeth: And for all the honeyed words overnight about the King naturally welcoming the opportunity to see more of the Sussex family in a private and personal capacity, there is no doubt the news is being greeted by many in royal circles with an element of gritted teeth. It’s one thing for the King to quietly patch up their relationship from the opposite side of the Atlantic. But it’s quite another to have the entire family suddenly pitch up with a loud ‘howdy Grandpa!’ in your own back yard – particularly when wider family relations are still so delicate.
King Charles wasn’t working with the Sussexes! [There has been] a wave of online vitriol about His Majesty’s (supposed) role in enabling his younger son’s return, to the detriment of his heir. He has been variously described as weak and manipulated but also, inexplicably, as working hand-in-glove with the Sussexes. It has sparked distasteful speculation about King Charles’s health and whether Harry has taken a decision to ‘shore up’ his position before it is too late.
Ah, guess who chatted up Becky: Sources have scoffed at renewed claims that the King’s right-hand man, Sir Clive Alderton, is leaving as private secretary to the King and Queen because of his opposition to any reunion – calling it ‘another mad conspiracy theory’. Indeed, I can reveal that Sir Clive was actually integral to last month’s meeting between Harry and his father, despite being the victim of so much of the prince’s ire in recent years.
Harry never mentioned this plan at Highgrove last month: And yet it seems quite remarkable, does it not, that Harry brought his family to meet with his father for the first time in four years at Highgrove in early July and never thought even to mention that this plan was even on his radar? But that, my sources insist, is the truth of it. Not once was the issue raised or discussed, they say. And the move has now been presented to the sovereign as a fait accompli.
Meghan visited schools in the Cotswolds: It seems even stranger if what another source has told me is true: that Meghan privately visited two potential schools in the Cotswolds region for Archie and Lilibet during their visit here – and they had already earmarked a potential home belonging to a celebrity (for the record, I have not been able to independently verify either of these claims).
Royal reactions to the Reverse Sussexit: Reactions range from the amused (downright hilarity at the claim that Harry and Meghan have just proved their ‘half in/ half out’ model of monarchy can work… ‘surely their return is proof that it hasn’t!’), to the fearful. Buckingham Palace declined to comment on the Sussexes’ announcement, and there was an equally deafening silence from Kensington Palace. Indeed, sources have long made clear the Waleses have no interest in engaging with anything Harry and Meghan do or say.
Harry & Meghan cannot do “royal duties”: Meanwhile, there is a concern that back in the UK and in such close proximity to working members of the Royal Family, every move by the Sussexes will be dissected for the slightest hint of a return to official roles and provide a constant distraction to the real working royals’ public labours. For the avoidance of doubt, sources insist, the couple will not be undertaking any royal duties. The King, they say, is absolutely adamant on this. His only interest is protecting and prioritising what’s right for the monarchy and, particularly, what is right for his relationship with the Prince of Wales, says a friend. The Waleses are working royals and future monarchs. Harry and Meghan are not. And William’s feelings must and will be respected, I am told.
William still hates his brother & fears that there’s more to come: Needless to say, the Prince of Wales – currently holidaying with his family and the King at Balmoral – has no desire whatsoever to reconcile will his brother, as it stands. And few can blame him….There are others in royal circles with personal experience of dealing with the Sussexes who say they just can’t shake the feeling ‘there is more to this than we know’. ‘There always is with them,’ one sighed. There is also concern among some over the couple setting up some sort of ‘rival court’ to Buckingham and Kensington Palaces.
I’m going back and forth about whether I really believe that Charles had no idea about the Reverse Sussexit before last Sunday. On one side, it could be true because the Sussexes know Camilla and Charles would have loved to leak that information. On the other side, it seems completely bonkers that Charles wasn’t “in” on this at some level. As for the insistence on “no royal duties,” as we’ve seen for years, William considers ANY form of work from Harry to be “royal work.” Whenever Harry visits one of his British-based charities or does any kind of private event, William hysterically sobs about how Harry is encroaching on his working-royal turf. That issue is about to explode in the coming year. As for Clive Alderton… boy, I do not know. I also feel like “there is more to this than we know” but much like William and Kate, we’re being kept in the dark.
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I reckon chuck was told at highgrove, and warned that if it leaked to the press, it wouldn’t happen, ie- if you want us to come back to England, prove you won’t inform on us.
Chuck probably kept it to himself, neither cowmilla or peg can be trusted, nor any of his staffers.
I don’t believe that happened, that Harry gave his dad a warning, because I truly believe Charles would rather they stay in the U.S. He barely gave them two hours of his time. He certainly didn’t bend over backwards to fix the Buckingham Palace stay. The opposite. He isn’t begging his son to move back.
And while I don’t believe Charles knew specifics or that it would ever happen this fast, I do believe at points Harry has mentioned his desire to bring his family back. So, no, it wasn’t some complete surprise to Charles.
I think his staff was also aware or at least someone on staff. I commented below, but the fact that the People exclusive has a statement about the King’s “reaction” in the original story means it has to have come from someone within his circle, it’s not King Charles who told People how he feels. I do think Charles has known for a while and kept it very tight, but some staff had to have also have known to have that line ready to go. “King Charles welcomes the opportunity to see more of the Sussex family in a private and personal capacity.” That’s a prepared media response.
Yeah, I was skeptical that Charles had no idea about this – until this particular article. For some reason, this take on it made me wonder: maybe the whole family visit this summer was actually one of the factors for deciding – like, both Harry and Meghan might have wanted to see how that reunion went before committing to moving back.
If so, it makes sense that they would want to de-brief with each other after the meeting, and come to their final decision, before sharing the news with Harry’s dad.
They need to all face it: having Harry there and visible and visiting charities and shaking hands with people and hugging babies is the ONLY thing that will get Wills and Kate to DO THEIR JOBS.
Which is why I think Charles is happy with this arrangement. He’s known since the Highgrove meeting at least. I really do think the relationship between Harry and Charles has been solid for some time. I think it’s been William, Camilla, and Mr. Wasp that made it difficult.
There is absolutely no way that the Palace would have come up with such a well said statement that “King Charles welcomes the opportunity to see more of the Sussex family in a private and personal capacity” (taken directly from People exclusive) if he had just found out. Absolutely no way would that have been the response, they just aren’t capable of arriving at such a normal and appropriate comment that quickly. It’s also not possible that the King would only have been informed days earlier and it WASN’T leaked immediately by the Palace. The fact that there was no leaking from Sunday until Tuesday (?) evening strongly suggests that the King and his minions had waaaaaay more time to digest this information.
The people around King Charles are simply not capable of not having immediate freak-out, hysterical reactions, even when later they attempt to reel it back in and not sound insane. Here, we’ve seen none of that. Not a peep. Actual Palace discipline seems to be in place. All of which says to me that this was known well in advance and the King is in agreement with Harry and Meghan’s plans.
I’m glad you’re here being a voice of reason this week, lol. I agree completely. The response from the palace was too measured, too…..disciplined, like you said. the reaction from KP and from the tabloids is the opposite, which is how we know they didn’t know this was happening. Now I believe that someone knew this was on the table – I said in another post that we have heard about Project Thaw from Eden, etc – but maybe not quite in this way and certainly not at this moment. Its clear the press and William were caught off guard and Charles was not.
Haha, why thank you, @Becks1! I’ve actually been traveling overseas for work and have been away from Celebitchy for a while. Nice to see familiar names are still around!
I honestly do not know what is going on, but if I leave aside the “institutional” sort of dehumanizing way of talking about these people and particularly thinking about what Harry has consistently said, I think this is all very positive for Harry and Meghan.
Harry has always been super clear he wants his *family* back, that he wants to reconcile with his dad as a dad, and that he loves his dad a lot. I very much believe that Harry does really want to just have his family (minus Will) close to him. If Harry thought so poorly of his dad that he would surprise him with this as a “fait accompli” then he never would have moved back to the UK in the first place. Defeats the whole purpose in my view. The only way, from a personal perspective, that this makes sense for Harry and Meghan is if Charles and Harry (and Meghan) have found space to talk and make up and are working on rebuilding a relationship.
People here always yell at me when I say that I think Charles loves Harry, but I don’t care, I do think that! I think that, separate from King, Charles as dad loves Harry and misses Harry. If I take the counter narrative of Harry surprising his already angry father by publicly announcing his return with no heads up, it just makes no sense at all. Why would Harry do that? It’s very counter-productive. Harry wants his children to get to know their grandpa. I can’t imagine that he and Meghan would do something so drastic as making an international move unless they were completely sure that is what Charles wants and what will happen.
I come from a family where there are multiple estrangements in my extended family. It’s complicated as heck, but I and a core group of my family do make a consistent effort to find space for both warring sides to still know they are family, are loved, and are going to be included. Sometimes that does mean one shows up and the other doesn’t, sometimes it means me putting my foot down and giving a lecture about getting the f over yourself and come to this baptism I don’t care if your sister is there lol. I don’t have any idea on all this regent, William is unfit, warring houses, etc. stuff. I think it’s just messy family stuff and I am very happy for Harry and Meghan that it seems to have worked out the way they were hoping.
I 10000% believe Charles knew and kept it a secret. I can easily believe Camilla and others found out on Sunday or when it was announced but Charles knew and approved. Not that Harry needed it.
That’s my take on it. If Camilla had known earlier, it would have leaked.
Same. And all this article proves is that good ol Becky has no clue about anything and no sources other than KP, aka Sunny Bullets and Clive.
It also proves that every RR dashed to Celebitchy for their hot takes because everything I’ve read comes from what we’ve all been discussing since the news broke!
Not. One. Iota. Of. New. Information. Only spin
This idea of a rival court is pie in the sky. Made up as an excuse to accuse the Sussexes of wicked conspiracy.
The only person who should have a royal court is Charles.
This whole thing is a circus and all the calamity around it only serves to make me feel more like: ABOLISH THE MONARCHY – ‘cause when does a whole ass king stay in the paper because of the mess he’s creating (over his own son!!!) rather than the good he’s doing? We don’t even need to get into “The Good Son” because by the time he’s king the firm will be just another reality show. (It already is.)
The Abolish the Monarchy is what worries me the most about The Sussexes being in the country. Because while I do think Charles has 3-5 years left in him and he can eek out the time as King, I do not believe the monarchy will survive William.
My hope is this is just a thing where a referendum is called before William is cornonated and then William is exiled to forest lodge with a severence and they’re all forced to live off private wealth. But the chances of violent opposition is not zero percent, especially if the economy in the UK gets worse. I don’t want the Sussexes anywhere near that.
I’d never thought of that! Do you think William really wants to be king or does he feel like he HAS to be king so he’ll make everyone miserable while he suffers through?
Extended Stay.
They are “moving” the same way international businesses assign executives to different countries for a year or two.
(Of course, if it turns out to be a Hallmark movie, the temporary move to help out an elderly relative or family business could last longer if they fall in love with the new situation.)
If the King wants to see them, he will have a window of time to do it.
Both Charles and the Home Office need Harry back. The Home Office needs Harry for soft power diplomacy and foreign visits. Charles needs him to prop up the failing monarchy. William isn’t capable of either so here we are. Charles has to keep his mouth shut because the Home Office has demanded it. Camilla is completely out of the loop and Charles has removed leakers like Clive from his staff. More news about William or Andrew’s misdeeds are just waiting to be revealed which is another reason they need Harry to shore up support for when they do.
I truly believe this is the case. There is something going on and I feel there’s a scandal waiting for William that’s got to be pretty bad if the Home Office completely circumvented the Prince of Wales on this.
I’m sorry but you can tell from these “briefings” how in the dark the Wales are about any of this. They know as much as we do which is nothing. And I’m finding that hilarious. Meghan and Harry have clearly been planning this for a while and they kept those cards close to their chest.
It’s interesting, and very telling, that William has been kept out of the loop on all of this.
No one is telling the heir to the throne anything. That’s a choice. A very unusual one. And I don’t think it’s merely because he would leak to the press (I’m more convinced that’s why certain courtiers, and at times, Camilla, were kept out of the loop also tbh).
I think Charles and his government are preparing for a Regency if he should be incapacitated during the last days of his reign. And given the way Team Rageball has been carrying on this past year, I do not think the Regent that Charles chooses will be William.
If I am right, buckle up, buttercups because if you think the KP & Rota crash outs are hilarious now…
This is an interesting thought which hadn’t occurred to me – that if Charles’ health worsened a regent for him might be necessary. Given the current ages of the Wales children, next in line after Will would be Harry, who will now meet the requirement of being resident in the UK.
Appointing a regent requires approval of three out of five people in specific positions (one of whom is Camilla, as the spouse of the monarch). From the quick reading I’ve done however, who the regent is, isn’t necessarily up to Charles, and he’s not one of the five who can approve a regency. There’s been past modifications to the Regency Act – such as the stipulation that Philip would be regent if QEII passed when the children were still under 18. So in theory, if the government feels Will isn’t fit, they could choose to move on to Harry.
I don’t know how likely this is (and for Harry’s sake, I hope, not very). But as I’m one of those who believes Charles acted as a shadow regent in the last years of QEII’s life, it’s something he definitely would have thought about in his own circumstances.
Harry being domiciled in the UK again also pushes the Andrew issue further away. If there was a regency decision to be made right now it is William , Harry, Andrew , Beatrice and Camilla as the spouse. If Harry isn’t considered domiciled then Andrew and his 2 daughters have the majority.
The Queen was ill. But she did not get a regent to “take over.” Charles did much of the work but he was never named Regent. William would have to be forced from taking the throne kicking and screaming. No way would he bow out.
I think we’re about to find out that they might be back for Meghan’s work. If that’s true, that’s wonderful. I’d love this to be the reason. But whatever the reason is, I love the fact that they are living life on their terms! Bravo to them!
wouldn’t it be a hoot if M&H were renting Ellen and Portia’s place in the Costwolds?? LOL
I think it’s highly likely.
The only thing I’ll believe Alderton was instrumental to, is the failed attempt to put Harry in jeopardy at BP last month.
Charles made changes to Operation Menai Bridge, as was announced in June 2025 by the Telegraph, and covered here June 29, 2025 by Kaiser. They spoke of reconciliation.
In the last year we’ve heard whispers of a “war of the courtiers”, with factions coalescing behind Clive Alderton and Theo Rycroft.
Palace intrigues don’t happen in a vacuum, however. The government has a rightful say. And the government, who spent the best part of a decade attempting to kick the can down the road, now have a pivotal choice to make.
My thoughts: Charles not only finds his heir rude and unmanageable, he and his government together, question his heir’s fundamental fitness to rule. The next in line, George, is too young for the responsibility yet. So what is a King in rapidly failing health to do?
Negotiate with his Spare, and train his Spare to be Regent over Georgie, assisting the lad and teaching him the duties of state until he’s old enough to take the reign.
Interesting to note: if Prince Henry is named Regent, he will be the first person in the top role to have actually served his country on a battlefield since George II during the War of the Austrian Succession.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dettingen
Harry and Meghan have their family to consider. I doubt Harry will be asked to be regent to George or want to do so. No way is Scooter going to let anyone keep him away from the throne.
Just like they did with Edward VIII in 1936, the government has its ways of forcing an abdication. The government could resign and restrict William’s ability to rally public support. This would lead to a constitutional meltdown of epic proportions but one that would likely leave the UK with a functioning government but no monarch in the end.
Some people at the Palace are having a meltdown about Harry and Meghan returning to the UK.
Remember when we were told not so long ago that if Harry or Meghan said one word about what was discussed at the meeting between them and Camilla they would be hell to pay , yet here is Becky spilling the beans about what was not discussed. Now how would Becky know this unless cams or Charles told her because you can be sure Harry and Meghan are not talking to that slimy snake . However Harry and Meghan should have leaned by now that the Windsors can’t be trusted so I don’t even know why they try.
Charles not knowing or being involved in my opinion would be a good thing. That means there is no deal, no control given to the firm/ Charles. This is Harry and Meghan on their own saying we can go where we please. If he knew beforehand I hope it’s just hey we are doing this we’ll let you know when it’s happening.
I believe Charles was told last minute with no detail. Story got out in the Sun with king’s go to Matt Wilkinson from the Sun with mostly tabloids style info while Sussex go to Ward at the Telegraph was more precise. This highly suggest palace leaked info.
I also wonder why Megan will visit schools when they are closed during summer vacation.
I believe the king is aware that he was trapped leaking.
They say Harry will not be doing any royal work but what’s going to happen when William refuses to go somewhere or turn up in lieu of the King? The fact that Harry is *right there* is going to be so tempting yet they know it’ll be somewhere between inappropriate and impossible to ask him. It’s going to be an interesting ‘extended’ time.
Charles not knowing is false. He was told Sunday, that the news would break. I think Charles is more afraid of Cain. They’re been stories about this. But now the frail king can’t protect himself against Cain. This is where Harry comes in.
Lol, of course it was presented as a “fait accompli,” as if there was any other way to deal with the BRF nest of vipers.