Royal sources: There’s no ‘Balmoral Summit, they’re barely talking about the Sussexes

Less than a day after the news broke about the Reverse Sussexit, the Prince and Princess of Wales arrived at Balmoral with their children. The Wales family is known for putting in an appearance at Balmoral, nothing more and nothing less. They arrived last Thursday, and I would bet that the family will be out of Scotland by the end of business on Tuesday, if not earlier. Given the gigantic news about the Sussex family returning to the UK in a matter of days, the obvious headlines wrote themselves: “The Balmoral Summit,” where Prince William thrashes around, screaming his head off, all while Camilla and King Charles beat a hasty retreat to Birkhall. There’s probably some grouse shooting too. Well, “royal sources” told the Telegraph that gossip about a Balmoral Summit is false. The left-behinds are barely even aware of Harry and Meghan, you see.

Whatever you do, don’t call it a summit. Or a crisis. The Royal family, locked away at Balmoral, as is tradition at this time of year, are there for their summer holiday. The King arrived on Tuesday, just in time for news that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are moving back to Britain. The Wales, Edinburgh, Phillips and Tindall families have joined him there, with the Princess Royal and Sir Timothy Laurence completing the register. Whatever will they have to talk about? Photographs of working and non-working royals driving to the castle seem to show a harried set of senior royals dashing to discuss Prince Harry’s homecoming.

“There is no summit,” insisted multiple palace sources. “It’s their holiday.”

While it is true that there has been “no change of plans”, as one source put it, in light of the Sussexes’ news, it has necessarily changed the atmosphere.

“There has been a relatively short period of calm after years of drama and then serious illness,” another source said. “Balmoral is sort of sacred time for the family, especially because it is so associated with their memories of the late Queen and Prince Philip. They are together; it’s just a happy time. The fact that the world now seems to be watching for signs of drama … they understand why, but it’s not ideal.”

The car photos, in fact, showed the family driving to and from a shoot in Corgarff, near Balmoral. The Prince of Wales was seen driving his wife, while the King, the Princess Royal, Mike Tindall and the 18-year-old Earl of Wessex drove other cars. They will probably go to church together on Sunday, where some of the family will be photographed again.

Inside Balmoral, there is a packed programme of barbecues, walks, formal meals and dances. This week and weekend, there will be time for the family, including the King’s grandchildren, great-nieces and nephews, to let their hair down in the Scottish Highlands.

One source said that the topic of the Sussexes’ return had been discussed “of course”, but less as a strategic master plan and more as family gossip.

“It’s the topic you finally open up after killing as much time as you can to avoid it,” another claimed. “It’s hardly a summit, it’s Balmoral barbecue.”

There will be time, inevitably, for the King and Prince of Wales to talk properly. They are aligned on maintaining the status quo for the Sussexes: no working roles and no half-in, half-out. They are facing pressure to consider a “Sandringham Summit II”, to remind the Duke and Duchess of the terms “they signed up to”, as one former royal source puts it, in 2020.

Other advisers are more sanguine, believing it would be pointless. The palace has no jurisdiction over the Sussexes, as non-working royals, other than the conventions of family loyalty and decency the system relies on. Moreover, there is a reluctance to treat a transatlantic move as a crisis.

“This isn’t 2020,” cautioned one source. “It’s nowhere near as big [an issue] as people stepping back from all royal duty to make money.”

The King is said to have given assurances to his elder son and heir that he will prioritise the Royal family. There is an awareness, on the part of the King and future king, about how to protect the remaining working royals, whose daily duties are less lucrative and more arduous than those who have now left. There is a “collective feeling”, it is said, that the late Queen’s wishes – no half-in, half-out – should be followed.

“There was also a model for being a non-working royal, set by Zara, which the Sussexes didn’t want to follow,” said a source. “This is all new territory for everyone.”

[From The Telegraph]

It’s incredibly funny that the courtiers are in the rota WhatsApp, trying to say that of course the Sussexes have been discussed, but everyone feels very sanguine about everything. Please. That being said, my interpretation is more nuanced – I don’t think it’s a summit either, but not for lack of trying in William’s case. William would love nothing more than to have a summit so he can rage-shriek at his father and order the king to punish Harry and Meghan for daring to step foot on British soil. What I’m getting from this story is that Charles isn’t playing along with William’s melodramatic theatrics. Charles probably IS going back to Birkhall and forcing the rest of the family to handle Bill’s little baby tantrums. And yeah, everyone at Balmoral is talking about it. What a funny thing to lie about.

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  1. Chenni says:

    If nothing billy is getting drunk, cathy is cyber stalking meghan for fashion and rest of family stockpiling food and resources from that palace. So far only prince Edward and princes anne free loading family in Scotland along with billy.

  2. JillinIL says:

    This here is the key line to me:

    “The palace has no jurisdiction over the Sussexes, as non-working royals, other than the conventions of family loyalty and decency the system relies on.”

    No kidding! How hilarious would it be for them to “demand” a Sandringham Summit II only for H&M to say “yeah, no thanks” and go about their business? Also, just wondering…do the “conventions of family loyalty and decency” include letting the tabloids abuse your son/brother and his wife? And….what part of “decency” does continuing to support and protect Andrew fall under? Questions, questions…..

    • Magdalena says:

      Charles and William and their aides can’t have any Part II Sandringham Summit because they would have to admit that it was the leftover royals’ cutting off security and funding shortly after the start of the 1-year review period which they insisted on, and leaking the Sussexes’ location in Canada (and again at Tyler Perry’s house in the US) which actually violated the agreement and rendered anything that Prince Harry agreed to (and it was not much) null and void. In doing so, they well and truly set Harry and Meghan free, and I love this for them.

      Good to see them finally admitting that they have zero control over anything H+M do, despite all their pretence to the contrary.

    • cws says:

      What’s weird about “no jurisdiction over non-working royals” is that it reveals that working royals are under “jurisdiction” which is under control.
      So a working royal has no control over their own lives. That isn’t a job, that isn’t a family, that’s slavery.

      • bisynaptic says:

        Maureen gave the game away, when he said that Charles should demand the Sussexes give up their moneymaking, at the threat of losing their titles.

    • StillDouchesOfCambridge says:

      They have no jurisdiction over them but want to remind the Duke and Duchess of the terms “they signed up to”. You mean, you have no jurisdiction and they cancelled you 😂.

      This year’s balmoral non-sussex summit BBQ is going to be the worst!!!

  3. tamra says:

    Who do, who do you thiink you’re fooling, or lie, lie,lie, deny, deny, deny! LOL

    • Lorelei says:

      Honestly!

      Raise your hand if you think they’ve all been talking about literally *anything else* at Balmoral since the news broke

      😶

      • Where'sMyTiara says:

        I think Fred and Gladys are at Birkhall and that the relationship between them and the Waleses is S P A C E.

        Charles is probably dedicated to protecting his and Seabiscuit’s peace, doing some garden pottering, or shooting at things in the hills.

        If Charles really is trying to reconcile with the Sussexes, I wonder if he’ll finally invite them to Balmoral after the WanKs have left? If he really is trying to convince Harry to help with a Regency, he should be doing his damnedest to make it up to the woman he previously excluded and refused to treat as a member of the family.

      • convict says:

        C can’t stop W becoming K by installing H as regent in the event of his ill health meaning he can’t continue until death. This is constitutional law.

  4. sunniside up says:

    Even if they hadn’t been bullying Meghan , Harry would have had to step away to earn a living before his father died. If Harry were still in the family when William took over William would have ensured that Harry would get nothing. The system doesn’t allow for anyone other than the next King to get it all, Death duties.

  5. Elizabeth says:

    That phrase ‘locked away’ sounds less like a fun, summer holiday at the family estate and more like they are in prison. Such a poor choice of words!

    • Visa Diva says:

      The “let down their hair” at formal dinners and dances doesn’t sound relaxing at all.

      • Harla says:

        The late queen and her family would dance Scottish reels in gowns and tiaras, lol. Apparently they family really enjoyed it but it sounds like too much for me.

      • Lorelei says:

        Somehow I didn’t know about these traditions until right now, and this does *not* seem like a relaxing summer break at all!

        I’ve always known that they have a super formal Christmas that seems to suck all of the joy and fun out of the day, but this is really a bit much for August. (And formal dances, for just the family who’s gathered there? Weird)

  6. fwiw says:

    A Sandringham Summit II to remind the Sussexes of what they agreed to? Maybe Harry could remind Charles & Will of their shenanigans instead. Perhaps Charles could reimburse Harry for the rest of the first year of security Charles had agreed to pay.

    • Lorelei says:

      Perhaps Charles could also reimburse Harry and Meghan for all of the money they put into renovating Frogmore before he freaking evicted them (sorry, I’ll just never stop being bitter about this!).

  7. Amy Bee says:

    The drama that the Palace, press and royalists complain about was self- inflicted. If they had just left Harry and Meghan alone, had some discipline and weren’t racist, there would be no so-called drama.

    • Hypocrisy says:

      Absolutely this is the monster that the leftovers created themselves…. Willy has been living with a maximum amount of incandescent rage directed at the Sussex’s for so long it actually shocks me he hasn’t had a stroke or heart attack by now, his BP has to be in the danger zone at this point.

  8. Henny Penny says:

    The thing that really stands out to me in all of this is how truly weak and powerless William is at this point. Charles has been signaling for quite some time that he doesn’t respect William, but it’s obvious to me that nobody else does either.

    Over the past six years, William had his chance to show them world what he’s made of, and now everybody knows that it ain’t much. I think whatever is up with William behind the scenes is really, really bad, so bad even Bulletproof Sunshine couldn’t fix it. So, I’m predicting a Regency is in the works, and Willie needs to be more careful about his helicopter habit.

    • Eliza says:

      Nailed it. Regent Harry.

      • Lady Digby says:

        I agree @ Henny Penny Prince William has had decades to prepare, develop relevant skills and experience. His shield went in 2020 and then the actual Queen died in 2022 having been failing for the previous two years. Will has had SIX years centre stage to prove himself worthy as heir when he was NEEDED. Crisis points were 2020 and then 2022 and crucially in 2024 when he SHOULD have finally stepped up. He didn’t. Instead he has been in various stages of retreat: doing less, saying no to foreign office trips, missing Anzac and VJ events and retreating to Forrest Lodge. James O’Brien during Friday ‘s LBC radio show compared Will to Starmer and Harry to Burnham! It’s NOT feasible for Will to work as little as he does when King. The RF and Firm want monarchy to continue: they are ruthless and won’t let William drag them all down. He can be replaced.

      • convict says:

        All true about William – he is pathetic at this point. But why does the British media pump him up? I don’t get it. He doesn’t give them much.

        W will never let H become regent for George. It ain’t happening. That’s a very high bar, unless W himself removes himself from the LoS.

    • MaisiesMom says:

      William being a hot mess is very believable to me but I have so much trouble imagining a Regency! How hard is it to prop up a Monarch? They don’t have to actually run the country?

  9. Tessa says:

    Nobody can let down their hair at balmoral. Its all infighting. Charles even invited andrew

  10. Becks1 says:

    I’m sure it’s the only topic of conversation and I’m sure William is raging out. The one source saying that it’s a topic of gossip but not a “summit” is taking the right approach but the rest of the article kills that approach LOL.

    • Lorelei says:

      100% it’s been the only topic of conversation! And what I would give to have been a fly on the wall when this news broke…I can imagine Kate glitching out and needing to be reset.

  11. Andrea says:

    Based on the google analytics someone in Scotland is searching like crazy “Meghan media reception in the US” and “Harry and Meghan media reception in the US” lol

  12. Harla says:

    Ahhh, so now they are admitting that there is a “non-working royal” model, Zara apparently. She works and makes money off her connection to the royal family and is still invited to Christmas, Easter and balcony appearances, before William lost his mind. To say that it wasn’t what the Sussex’s wanted is nuts, it seems to be exactly what they wanted and they even mentioned it several times that others were allowed the “half-in/half-out” model.

    • Mairzy Doats says:

      Not sure if I recall correctly, but wasn’t one of Harry’s earlier proposals was simply for them to be allowed to take a 5-6 month sabbatical/rest to go somewhere, anywhere for a respite from the madness, while everyone sorted out what a future role could look like? They were both stressed and exhausted and raising an infant — it would have been a kind thing to do. Denying them “family leave” after denying Meghan mental health resources shows their determination to shake her loose from Harry. Family businesses suck.

  13. Penelope Cowell Doe says:

    The Sussexes refused to grift like the Tindalls because they have standards.

  14. Alex says:

    Charles and Camilla have been in Birkhall since early August; they don’t live at Balmoral Castle. I suspect WK hasn’t even talk with C&C. William and Kate will leave Scotland after today.

    • Mairzy Doats says:

      Apparently C and W only communicate via aides, and rarely directly to one another. I wonder if Charles spends any time with his grandson who is in line to be king someday, as Elizabeth did with William.

      • Alex says:

        I’ve never thought Charles was the type to enjoy spending a lot of time with children, and based on their schedules, I don’t think he has much time to see his grandchildren. He and Camilla spend most of their weekends in Scotland, Sandringham, and very little time at Windsor Castle. W and K spend most of their time in Windsor.

    • BeanieBean says:

      And I understand K&W are at their own little place on the estate, so they’re not in the big house either. I bet you anything they never see Charles except for the big planned events, like the ‘formal dinners’.

  15. Jayna says:

    I really hope Charles has many more years as monarch, so William doesn’t gain all the power.

  16. kelleybelle says:

    Bull. They are totally consumed by the Sussexes and have been for a full decade now.

    • Lorelei says:

      Their complete obsession with the Sussexes turned this situation into the mess it currently is in the first place!

  17. Tessa says:

    Didn’t the keens spend more vacation time on expensive resorts than balmoral

    • Alex says:

      William and Kate only spend about three to four days in Balmoral each summer. Charles and Camilla stay from early August to October. In September, C&C return to England for some events during the week, but still spend their weekends in Balmoral. In early September, they participate in traditional Scottish Highland sports. William and Kate never attend; their dislike of Scotland is obvious.

    • Alex says:

      William and Kate only spend about three to four days in Balmoral each summer. Charles and Camilla stay from early August to October. In September, C&C return to England for some events during the week, but still spend their weekends in Balmoral. In early September, they participate in traditional Scottish Highland sports. William and Kate never attend; their dislike of Scotland is obvious.

  18. Nic919 says:

    Grouse shooting is not real hunting because these birds are raised specifically for this and no serious environmentalist would take part in it.

    And they brought out the kids today for church along with Kate showing off her super tanned face again.

    • convict says:

      Why is Kate looking super pleased with herself lately? She looks healthy too – or is that photoshop?

      I suppose uniting against a common enemy – Meghan – can be the glue that bonds a fractious marriage.

  19. TurbanMa says:

    I hope they go to Africa next just live a life of leisure a year at a time. Anywhere they go they will do something good for the local people and economy. They are a blessing. I want to hear William crying the UK is miiiine Harold.

  20. Eurydice says:

    William’s not talking about it. He’s rocking in a corner, alternately sucking his thumb and gibbering, “harry..hate..hate…harry…hate…”

  21. Lady Digby says:

    James O’Brien did an hour long segment on his Friday radio show about how media attempted to brainwash us to hate Meghan for reasons known to right wing press. I don’t buy the Daily Outrage and I don’t buy their opinions but a fellow passenger on my village bus on Friday lambasted me through the journey because I refused to listen to her repeating to me hateful crap about Meg that she’d just read from that rag! I politely told her that I disagreed and wished to change the subject but she insisted that she had every right to vent. I attach the link to the radio show and the responses James O’Brien gets from listeners proves not everyone has been brainwashed.
    Britain was told to hate Megha…–James O’Brien Daily – Apple Podcasts https://share.google/WoW5CnANifx0ler46

  22. QuiteContrary says:

    Grouse hunting (gross) and grousing about H&M are definitely on the agenda at Balmoral.

    Sounds like so much fun compared to say, a vacation in Portugal!

  23. Jais says:

    I’m sure William is raging out. And while I think there will be resentment from both Kate and William for having to do more…not a lot more but at least more than they’ve gotten used to. But you know what? This might light a fire under Kate. She is very competitive and somewhat thrives off competition so it will be interesting to see. And how long it can be maintained. The clothes she must currently be ordering…😂

  24. tamsin says:

    I think the picture of the “family” in their convoy of range rovers driving to or from a grouse hunt is certainly trying to make a statement. It just made me laugh! Nah, Nah, you’re not invited!

  25. martha says:

    Were they really offered a deal like Zara’s?

  26. BeanieBean says:

    Ah, the sacred vacation, with the sacred barbecue, sacred walks, and sacred mass shooting of birds. 🙄

  27. convict says:

    Fair dinkum, how many lengthy holidays do these freeloaders have in any given year? They are really just taking the … working hard? None of them know what work is, let alone hard work! They never miss an opportunity for a holiday – ever.

  28. Mrs.Krabapple says:

    So who are they going to blame for these leaks about what was/was not discussed? Harry and Meghan aren’t there, so the leak is from someone else . . .

  29. Tessa says:

    Stepford keen grinning from the car.

  30. bisynaptic says:

    “There is an awareness, on the part of the King and future king, about how to protect the remaining working royals, whose daily duties are less lucrative and more arduous than those who have now left.“
    —I’m sorry, what?? “Lucrative”??