Brad Pitt is still talking! To promote Tree of Life, he gave an interview to the Associated Press, and he talks about family and junk. There’s no talk of Jesus in this piece, sorry! But he does talk about The Other Jesus, Angelina, and whether or not they’ll work together again, etc. I don’t really know what to say because I think Brad sounds nice here and I don’t find his comments controversial in the least, but I thought that about his religion quotes too, so what do I know?
When it comes to family, bigger is better for Brad Pitt. Now 47, the actor didn’t have any kids several years ago; now he has six (three adopted, three biological) with love Angelina Jolie.
“I know it seems extreme from the outside, but I’ve always kind of operated this way,” Pitt told the Associated Press in an interview at the Cannes Film Festival, where he’s promoting his film Tree of Life. “When I know, I know, and why mess around?”
Although Pitt himself didn’t have a particularly large family growing up, he was inspired by a close pal. “I had a friend who had a big family when I was a kid,” he explained. “I just loved the chaos around the breakfast table and the fighting and the ribbing, and the mom making pancakes for everyone or the dad making pancakes,” added the father to Maddox, 8, Pax, 7, Zahara, 6, Shiloh, 4, and twins Knox and Vivienne, 2.
“I just decided then if I was ever going to do it — this left some indelible mark on me — if I was ever going to do it, that’s the way I was going to do it.”
Indeed, Pitt added that “breakfast is my specialty” in the household, and loves inspiring his own “chaos around the breakfast table.”
As he’s said in previous interviews, fatherhood has changed the way he selects his film roles.
“I think my focus before was more irreverence, by nature,” the Oscar nominee noted. “I’m a dad now. It’s more important to me that if I’m going to do the film, there’s something I can bring to it, it’s not generic. And most of all, I’m painfully aware that my kids are going to see these when they’re older, and I want them to understand something about their dad, and I want them to be proud of their dad.”
What about a future collaboration with love Jolie, 35, whom he famously met on the set of the 2005 flick Mr. and Mrs. Smith (while he was still married to Jennifer Aniston).
“We’re not ones to repeat ourselves, but we’d like to, because right now, we’re hopscotching with films so one can be with the kids and one’s free to work,” Pitt explained of reteaming with Jolie. “And why aren’t we doing them together? Why aren’t we doing everything together?”
[From Us Weekly]
I’m going to say something that will make people yell at me, but I don’t care: I think Brad has become a better actor in the years he’s spent with Angelina, and I think that in the same time frame, he’s made more interesting career choices than in the rest of his career. I do think Brad’s career priorities changed, as did his place in the industry, when he and Angelina got together and when he became a father. He’s got money now, he’s got stature, and he doesn’t sign on to a movie unless he likes the script or the director, and even then he wields quite a lot of power. My point? I think I’m saying that Brad is still going to be very relevant in Hollywood for many years to come. I could even see him winning an Oscar at some point. Shocking, I know.
And yeah, in those dumb glasses, he’s totally trying to look like Jack Nicholson.
Photos courtesy of WENN & Fame.
There is nothing SHOCKING about the idea of him winning an Oscar. ONLY to the blind.
the man has talent.. Babel, Jesse James, IB, Snatch, Fight Club, Burn After Reading, Ben Button, 12 Monkeys. Just to name a few.. and his last 5 movies have been wonderful. I dont’ get the Overrated comment about him. If anything he does not get enough credit for his total body of work. He has created some very Iconic and memorable characters. Not all actors can boast that.
I will agree that he has raised his game over the last 6 years. And no he does not do a movie every other month. He took almost 2 years off.
I would love for he and Angie to do another film together.. MY LOONIE LOINS would be aflame.
I’ve been watching the videos of them at Cannes. They really are in tune to each other. It is a fascinating thing to watch.
And I don’t understand why the posters that will come rag on his performances. If you don’t like him as an actor STOP SEEING HIS FILMS.
but they seem to see everything he is in.. STRANGE uh..
No matter what these two once were – weird, dark, creepy, masochistic, superficial – they’ve both grown into wonderful people who do more than most for others. And for their own. How can you fault that? I’m a fan.
I don’t like him as an actor. Seriously, I never did. I try to cut him some slack because there must be a reason why he’s chosen for so many roles (that I think should go to someone else) but I really can’t stand his mannerisms. I also used to think he is/was extremely vain but…maybe he’s grown up. *shrugs*
I think so too, he was remarkable in the assassination of Jesse James, good for him for enjoying his family.
Brad has always been talented his biggest problem has been his looks now that he’s no longer a ‘pretty boy’ he isn’t leaning on them and people are more likely to notice that he can actually act. I hate it when people say he’s just lucky the man has been famous for 20 years and his stature has only risen while most of his contemporaries simply don’t make films or have become punchlines. Even in circumstances where his personal life is shall we say overexposed he is still the most sought after actor around.
This isn’t really news and I didn’t see anything controversial. They’ve both said they’d like to work together again but haven’t found anything. It’s weird that eventhough Brad and Angelina say a lot of things in previous interviews it’s always reported as new or shocking. Brad is a good actor. I think people like to dismiss him because of his prettyboy, hearthrob image.
He also has other interests that seem just as important (if not more) as acting. He’s into architecture and renovation of their home, artwork, and charities. That and being a dad have really made him more grounded, imo.
Well truth to be told, he’s been always viewed as some kind of a pretty boy, but he’s always been immensely talented. You could also tie his interesting film roles to the fact that he’s aging and can no longer play the young women’s heart throb.
Go Brad, Rasputina loves yoooou! You look retarded in your shades and the slicked back hair, but a grey beard suits you and OH SCREW THIS I LOVE YOU, OLD MAN!
I agree Kaiser…Brad is a great actor I love his movies and he can do justice to any character he plays ie. Meet Joe Black, Benjamin Button, Fight Club (a fav), Troy, etc.
He even turned down a role in Appollo13 for the movie Se7en even his current choices are even more strategic, but his reinvented looks not so much. Brad is an well rounded individual, great dad and an excellent match with Angie. Love them both
He was always a very good actor tbh. His Oscar nom for 12 monkeys wasn’t an accident.
He is a good actor although I didn’t like Be Kind and Rewind, not because of his acting but because the movie sucked. Does he have a sprayed tan on?
He looks so young in that last picture,he sounds like a good father and husband,i wish them all the best
@ Maritza:
Be Kind Rewind is starred by Jack Black and Mos Def.
FTA: And I really respect him for his “When I know, I know, and why mess around?” approach. I’m the same and I hate the never ending drama that comes with people who can’t be honest with themselves about what they really want.
did anyone ever read the book that the bodyguard wrote? I had been asking, and asking and asking at my library…to no avail. And they seem to get Every new book out. I know it’ll be probably, a lot of juicy lies, but still. Mind fluff is mind fluff and who doesn’t LOVE Brangelina? So, any good reads on this fam? With behind scene 411 and private pics???
Brad you were so hot and handsome, what went wrong? Hate those glasses and the beard.
I don’t like him as an actor nor I consider him an handsome man: he has always reminded me of an orangutan with bleached blonde hair, and surely his relationship with AJ helped him A LOT into being considered an A-list actor (despite people convinced it’s the other way around). He got to do better films with many famous directors AND actors, but I don’t think he has never improved his craft (I often see his movies thinking: “Oh, to have a better actor in Pitt’s part..”).
However, I appreciate the fact that, like Clooney, he’s an hard worker who got famous late (in his 30’s), always tried to get considered not for his looks and started as soon as possible to be involved with charities.
He looks like a mix between Kurt Russell and Jeff Bridges.
Well in HW Julia Roberts and Gwyneth got the Oscar. It shows you don’t need talent to get that statue. He is mediocre at everything.
@Theuth you have the right to your opinion but you are wrong about him only starting to work with famous directors or being famous when he worked with Angie. He worked with Robert Redford ( he was actually hand picked for the role), Terry Gilliam (In a role that earned him an Oscar nod), David Fincher, and Steven Soderbergh just to name a few. He also had his fair share of blockbusters Legends of the Fall, Troy , the Oceans movies and probably had more commercial success before he was with her since now he does mostly independent films.
For all the people that are blaming his look for holding im back and making the industry not take him seriously, I have a question for you guys(this isn’t snarky, but an honest question): If being a prettyboy was really the problem, why didn’t Johnny Depp’s looks ever stop him from being considered a serious or good actor from pretty much the beginning of his film career? They are contemporaries and have both been considered attractive throughout their careers, yet you guys say that Brad was unfairly looked over because of his appearence.
I honestly think that he hasn’t been taken seriously becasue he sold himself as a hearthrob. He took the part of Tristan in Legends of the Fall (which Johnny turned down as well as the part of Lestat in Interview with the Vampire) which I think made his image that of a romantic figure. I believe that in the beginning of his career he was trying to do interesting roles (Johnny Suede, Kalifornia, etc.), but made he wanted to be to the golden, boy superstar, and decided to start doing movies that would make him an A-lister. I think his desire to be famous made him not follow his true calling of doing the small, character-actor parts, that I feel he is much better at.
@Eve – Sorry, I meant Burn After Reading! That movie sucked also.
Maybe it’s pms, but I’m a little worried about them lately. He’s been especially mooshy – almost clingy. And in the pictures I’m seeing, Angelina is not making eye contact and she’s kind of pulling away in body language. It’s almost like lately, she seems crowded by his affection. I’m not tryin to stir up stuff… I’m just sayin’
@ Maritza:
It’s ok.
But I have to say I liked both films. Burn After Reading I enjoyed DESPITE Pitt’s very annoying character and Be Kind Rewind is soooo cute, I love Michel Gondry’s films and videos.
@jinni Johnny depp hardly have big box office success outside kid loving films.
I wasn’t talking about success of the movies, I’m taking about respect from the industry and critics for the quality of one’s work. If you go by success or how much money one’s movies makes as being the markers for talent, than a lot of great actors: Cate Blanchett, Kate Winslet, Johnny Depp, Colin Firth, Paul Giamatti, etc. would be over looked because they typically choose roles in movies that aren’t going to be mega blockbuster.
I believe that because he has set himself up to be a heartthrob and his most well known roles involve him being “sexy” or the romantic interest, he’s not been taken seriously throughout his career.
Johnny Depp has no Oscar, either- Hollywood doesn’t seem to give Oscars to “pretty” boys easily, even if deserved (Redford, Newman, etc. got theirs late and some pretty boys like Peter O’Toole are still waiting). Don’t worry- Pitt has ALWAYS been clingy with Jolie- there are many, many pictures over the years if him grabbing, nuzzling, sniffing her- & the friends/family in these same photos (the kids, Paul Allen, Brad’s architect friends, NOLA friends, Clooney, Damon, Cheedle) act like this is an everyday occurrence- which it probably is!
Oscars seem to go to people for either: political reasons, the actor campaigned really well for it, or because the Oscar committee wants to give to the actor for their overall career since they were overlooked for years. I don’t hold much stock in Oscar wins, especially after Paltrow won for “Shakespeare in Love” when anyone with any taste knew it should have gone to Cate Blanchette for “Elizabeth”.
@lisa you said everything I could ever say and man I chuckled hard at loonie loins on fire! hahaha I watch mr and mrs smith at least once a month simply because well WHY NOT!? haha <3
Jinni – I agree with you about Osacars being political, but you asked why Johnny gets more respect than Brad, even though they are both pretty. Based on both NOT having Oscars, I would say Hollywood gives them the same amount of respect. I like them both, but Brad definitely has picked the more diverse/challenging roles overall. I LOVE Capt Jack, but 4 times- repeating roles like that is not a way to gain Hollywood respect, but it will get you your own island- go Johnny! I thought he did a great job in The Tourist, too, so maybe I’m a little bit of a Depp fangirl!
What does Brad Pitt have in common with Valentino, Donatella and Xtina?
SELF TANNER.
I’m usually indifferent about Brad Pitt.
He happens to be Angie’s man and by all accounts a good dad and partner to Angie.
Just doesn’t seem to be a very facinating person.
But @Eve & @Maritza, Brad and John Malkovich (hottest actor of all time)
were the BEST part of a rather boring Burn after Reading.No?
I wish he would clean up, he looks like he STINKS! Angie get whips out!
I always liked him in movies. I was totally in love with him after Legends of the Fall. He has a nice voice to go with it too ( Int. with a vampire/Sinbad). When he was younger, he was still searching for a purpose.. Now that he’s older you can def see that he is content with his life.
@min76: to each their own, like you said.
I’ve never found him to be this incredible actor everyone said: I know he had worked with talented people in Hollywood long before he met AJ (hell, he’s pratically one of the actors Fincher has weaned with Seven and Fight Club), but I think it was – like I said – because he’s an hard worker who earned his place on the top. I like most of the movies he’s done “despite” him being here (hell, I love Interview with the Vampire!), but I always felt like there was a better actor who could have been wonderful in his shoes.
I’m saying that, at the time he met Jolie, he was mostly famous for the Ocean series and other big movies like Troy (at least, in my country), not exactly a showcase for talent, and him being in an high profile relationship with an actress who, despite her “crazy” reputation, had already won several awards, gave him the opportunity to work in better projects and be respected a lot more. It helped him throwing away the label of “pretty boy” and be considered more for his works AND his charities AND his interests.
Same for Jolie, in minor part, because she got to work in more mainstream movies I don’t think she would have been able to get (like for Clint Eastwood).
I don’t know…they look like a solid couple with a big, loving family, a large group of friends and loads of things on their plate. Good for them!
I agree Brad’s become a better actor since being with Angelina. I’ve always liked Brad, and I fell in love with him when he made Legends of the Fall. But, I’ve never thought of him as being a really good actor until recently. I thought he was fantastic in the Curious Case of Benjamin Button. And he was also great in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford. He’s obviously much more careful about the projects he’s choosing, and there’s a greater depth to his acting. His relationship with Angelina and their children seems to have brought a new meaning to his life and work.
I think he’s pretty talented too, Kaiser. I think he’ll get his Oscar someday.
His statement about their kids and having so many seems to echo Angelina. When they knew they were in love, it was full speed ahead on building their family. When you know, you know!
I think he’s a mediocre actor but he chooses good directors and good movies. He always has good co stars that are usually better than he is. His acting in some movies is terrible. Troy, meet Joe black, the devils own for example.
cara: did anyone ever read the book that the bodyguard wrote? I had been asking, and asking and asking at my library…to no avail.
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You can keep asking till the cows come home. That “tell-all book” by the bodyguard was a figment of some tabloid writer’s overheated imagination. They’ll say anything to sell magazines.
@ Addie:
I LOVE John Malkovich in Burn After Reading. Or anywhere else, for that matter. He’s a fantastic actor!
Richard Jenkins and Tilda Swinton were also amazing in that film, but Frances McDormand (who I usually love) and Brad Pitt were really annoying. Maybe that was what the Cohen brothers were aiming for — I understood his character was over the top and silly, but it just didn’t come out naturally or even believable (in my opinion). A friend of mine watched the film with me and she said he (Pitt) was perfect because she happened to know a guy who behaved exactly like his character. Go figure…
He will get an Oscar for boning ANGIE.
Brad Pitt is a damn good actor and i like the way he puts is all into whatever role he plays. If you had to compare, he is a far better actor than Johnny Depp even though I like Johnny look at the crappy characters, Johnny plays, he could not perform in a regular role like the Tourist if anyone cared to notice, he performs better in roles where he is costumed and clothed to death, Alice In Wonder Land, Pirates and so many more like it. Brad and Angie looked so damn good on the red carper in Cannes, it was just amazing to see them together. Jolie was picture perfect.
@CHEYENNE, I thank you for responding!! Sucks there’s not a book though. It would of been a juicy, lay on the beach, mind fluff, read.
@ B:
I mean no offense to those who liked Troy. I want to clarify that this is my personal opinion before anyone takes this brief review personally, ok? But I have to say that I laughed out loud while watching that film. Mostly because of its unsuccessful attempt at doing a “historically precise” film based on a story that is full of metaphors and paraboles. It failed at showing both the history part, and the fascinating fantasy from Homer’s poem. But also because the acting is terrible! Pitt’s Achilles — who looks more like a thug than a hero — is not the only one. Bana’s acting is awful too — his scenes with Orlando Bloom were so bad that they ended up being involuntarily funny (actually, all the scenes featuring Bloom were hilarious). Saffron Burrows froze her face in one single expression of grief — I know she feels/knows her husband is going to die, but really…couldn’t she have shown at least one more facial expression?
Even actors I love (like Brian Cox) hammed it up to the max.
P.S.: Bana (his acting aside) is delicious in it though. That hair was perfect for him (it hid his satellite dish ears). The beard, the body…everything: delicious.
I like Brad Pitt as an actor. I think he’s actually quite talented.
Yes, yes…it’s clear that everything that goes “wrong” with Brad Pitt must be Angelina Jolie’s fault because he can’t possibly have a mind of his own. The woman is a monster!
I think he’s OK – not bad, but not anything extraordinary. I’m not a fan of him personally, but he’s had a couple of good films, and I agree he’s worked with some good directors and costars.
For me though, his personal life and fame has long overshadowed his work, even going back to his Gwenyth days. With a few exceptions, I seem to prefer more low key actors – sort an actor vs. movie star thing, if that makes any sense.
From the comments it’s become clear that many only know of Johnny’s more popular roles and not the many tiny, interesting roles he has played throughout his career. He has done many roles other than the ones in Tim Burton movies, so I will not continue trying to use him as an example of someone who unlike Pitt has never let his looks get in the way of his talent.
As for Troy, I think such an epic would be better as a mini-series because it’s too textured, complex, and nuanced of a poem for just two hours. Plus without the gods the story just falls apart and loses so much meaning and interest.
I don’t think Angie’s pulling away. She’s still doing her possessive poses with Brad (hand on his belly or chest). And I would pay big money to have Brad Pitt make my breakfast. You don’t even have to stay over, Brad!!
I loved 12 Monkeys, and seVen is one of my favorite all time movies, even with Goopy in it.
But I just saw a photo of Jason Lee at Cannes this morning, and he’s wearing those glasses. He looks like the love child of Pitt and Guy Pearce if they ever got together!
Lastly, I wasn’t comparing Johnny to Brad in order to say that one was better than the other, only to compare how two conventional attractive actors, that came up at around the same time have been precieved by critics, industry people, and the media.
I totally agree with Eve.
Being a golden boy has never prevented him from being a talented actor.
There are many golden boys in HW, to name a few Leonardo Di Caprio – IMO one of the best of his generation – Johnny Depp, and even George Clooney whom is not an excellent actor but he is believable and can do good in most of his roles.
And what about Tom Cruise? A man who is totally talented and quite considered from the best directors despite the fact that his personal weird life has always overshadowed his career.
No, being beautiful is not an obstacle to talent. Most times we see the contrary: beautiful people who become renowed and considered talented (sic!) and respected just for their looks.
As for the Oscar nominations, Oscars aren’t serious, they are given for political reasons, or who knows for what, but talent isn’t the criterion behind the choice of who deserves the prize and who doesn’t.
i wish they’d release a sex tape.
@cara: Everybody who works for Brad and Angie has to sign an iron-clad confidentiality agreement. Any former employee who spills any beans will be hauled into court and sued out the wazoo.
(P.S. A word to the wise: discount 99.9% of tabloid stories about these two.)
For me Brad’s a hit and miss actor. Sometimes I’m almost embarrassed for him as his acting is so pathetic. I thought he was amazing in Babel and Benjamin Button.
Something is going on with Angelina. Girl does not look happy even when she’s smiling. She has the saddest eyes. The pressure she’s under trying to live up to everyone’s expectations must be immense. Just guessing.
Benjamin Button is one of my favorite movies of all time and he is so very good in it. I totally agree with you, Kaiser, that he has chosen better roles and has become a stronger actor since he has been with Angelina. To win an Oscar, though, I think he is going to have to have to grow closer to his old friend, Julia Roberts. Really, she has the most pull with the Academy and if he is ever going to win, or at the very least, have another one of his movies recognized for a nomination, it will only be with Julia’s loud mouth, gusto, and praise for the work he is doing.
Lucy2 I feel the same way. Brad and Angelina’s private life overshadows their work completely and therefore it is difficult to see them mold into a character because all I see is Angelina Jolie, acting…They are way too open about their private lives and their family, there is no mystery. My humble opinion is they need to keep more private, stop selling their kids pictures to mags and talking non stop about stuff that should be kept private. Indeed they are more movie stars than they are actors at this point.
i think hes a great actor, 12 monkeys and fight club are fantastic performances. He was pretty good in burn after reading too.
@eve: I remember when I got to see Troy in theater, that during the last siege all the audience went wild and started SCREAMING because of the biggest hoax in the movie (Achilles alive in the Horse). Everybody knew the Iliad story from and that was basically the end of every chance to reboot the pepluum/mythologic genre by Hollywood.
And yeah, most of the women lust behind Eric Bana. Orlando Bloom was rejected because without pointed ears he was useless.
@jinni: you may love the 1968 Italian version of Odissey (another poem, but still incredible), it’s probably the best – gorgeous colours, very good acting and faithful for the most part.
@jinni I get what you are saying and actually I’ve crushed on Johnny since 21 Jump St…but Johnny is a quirky guy who has many a times played himself in movies (lovably so) and though in his youth he stuck to the independent films in his later years he’s ‘sold out’ so I don’t think he’s any more or less respected than Brad.
And I loved him in Burn After Reading I honestly think his ‘Chad’ was a great lampoon of his airhead/perfect blonde guy image.
Brad Pitt is a great actor. I will forever love Fight Club and he was excellent in 12 Monkeys. And Legend of the Falls. And Benjamin Button. I agree that his choices have been far more interesting since he began his relationship with Jolie and he seems to be going from strength to strength in the industry. Not bad for a pretty boy.
@Quest – I’m so glad somebody mentioned “Meet Joe Black”. I always loved that movie!
I always wondered why he haven’t won an Oscar. I believe he is talented, and has made awesome movies. I don’t get it.. Is he too pretty? Or was?
@ Theuth:
Not only that, but everybody is straight in that film! In Troy Patroclus is Achilles’s cousin or something. He was supposed to be older and his partner/lover (though some historians insist there was no sexual relationship between them).
Even some technical aspects made me giggle: when the Greek battle ships are shown they are a way too perfectly distanced from each other. It looked like the ships were outright copied and pasted into frame!
Brad has become increasingly ugly since being with Angelina.
My Mom rented Cool World almost two decades ago and she noticed him. Said she thought he would blow up cause of his distinctive demeanor and classic good looks. I always thought Pitt chose quality roles, except his really really early work when he was like a 20yr old kid. They do not give men Oscars at two young of an age cause they want to keep them working for a longer time. Women get them a little earlier if not really early cause they toss women out of the industry by the time they start heading to forty. He will get an Oscar, but I believe it will be sometime in his early fifties. Getting them to the show is money for the Oscar organization and they wont go if no one is being nominated. I give it five years and it will be something that is really out of the box. I think Brad looks really good.
Brad has become increasingly ugly since being with Angelina.
That’s because she drinks his blood on a regular basis. She also removes all and every little fat cell from his body and injects it into her face. See those lips? Fat from Pitt’s ass.
His fingernails are too long. Ewww.
I love the top photo, it’s quintessential Cannes.
#1, agree completely! brad is completely UNDERRATED as an actor.
I will always love him, Angie is a very lucky Woman 😉
@Eve: See those lips? Fat from Pitt’s ass.
Hilarious 🙂 You rock 🙂
Yep he is a great actor. I loved Fight Club so much that I named my first son Tyler.
I agree with both @lisa #1 and Kaiser on this one.
I won’t add any more as I don’t want to get yelled at either 😆 .
@Eve: LOL! Girl you are hilarious 😀 .
i think brad is an underrated actor, when he was younger, i was not that impressed with him, really,great actor, but too pretty, within the last 10? years, he’s been on my radar as a human being (his choices in life) and (as an actor,)interesting roles, he is still a very good looking man, more so IMHO, as i said before, he came into his own, even before jolie, but she sure help.
personally i found nothing objectionable about his Jesus quotes… religion is just *not* for everyone and he is entitled to believe religion to be pure crap… as i do, as do many of the kids i went to church with throughout the years… as do some adults i know that i have had time to really think about the whole thing years later into their lives… sometimes “have faith” is not enough of an answer to keep people invested
I would love to see these two together again on a movie, maybe we’ll get some insight as how they are behind closed doors 😉
I think when he said, “why don’t we do everything together?” he was being ironic and making fun of the press that is so obsessed with his girlfriend.
What about Brad Pitt working making a movie with his ex-wife Jennifer Aniston? That would be a movie the whole world would go to see,just to see if old wood can still make fire. People in Hollywood don’t know how to make money.
I just find Brad and Angelina a mismatch. Both are good actors but Angelina has chosen to portray herself as a savior to poor children (which is admirable) and Brad always said he wanted seven kids…One more to go-which country will this one come from?? They seem more concerned about their image and goals than each other. Can’t see this lasting-if so, they would be married by now-true?? What is the holdup-waiting for better prospects? Noone should be surprised by an eventual breakup.