Back in April, as the “Arab Spring” was in full effect after the successful protests in Egypt, Libyans decided that they wanted a piece of democracy too. Libya has been under the control of Moammar Gadhafi for decades, and in the protests/revolution/uprising/civil war that came next, thousands were left homeless, and thousands simply crossed over the Libyan border, hoping to find a better life. Angelina Jolie met with some of those refugees in April, on the Tunisian-Libyan border camps that had sprung up during the Arab Spring – go here for our coverage of that trip. Anyway, Jolie is back in Libya, but this time she’s not acting in her official capacity with the UNHCR. A UNHCR spokesperson says that she’s made the trip “in a personal capacity” – although she’s meeting with aid agencies and UN teams. Angelina gave an exclusive statement to Reuters while she was on the ground:
Actress and U.N. goodwill ambassador Angelina Jolie was in Libya on Tuesday for a visit to help agencies bringing aid to Libyans in Tripoli and Misrata, she said in a statement provided to Reuters.
“I have come to Libya for a variety of reasons, to see a country in transition at every level and to witness efforts to fully realise the promise of the Arab Spring,” Jolie said. “The country faces a host of challenges, including internally displaced people, refugees, rule of law, security, sanitation, education, health and other humanitarian needs. All of these pieces must be delivered and coordinated properly in an environment of reconciliation and justice.”
The two-day trip was Jolie’s first to Libya, but she previously visited Libyan refugees in Malta and on the Italian island of Lampedusa in June, and went to Tunisia in April to appeal for international support for people fleeing the revolution there.
Jolie is an ambassador for the United Nations refugee agency UNHCR and is expected to announce an expanded role soon.
On her Libya trip, she met representatives from UNHCR, Medecins Sans Frontieres and local non-governmental organisations delivering assistance to Libyans in Misrata and Tripoli.
“I will be meeting with officials from all sides but above all, listening to the local people in the street. I am here to express solidarity with them. It is the work of rebuilding and recovery that will determine Libya’s future.”
[From Reuters]
I wonder why the UNHCR doesn’t want their fingerprints on this trip? Maybe the situation is a political hot potato and they’re just letting Angelina get out in front of it? I don’t get the politics of it. You know what interests me? How did Angelina get into the country? Did she just fly commercial from Budapest or London, into Tripoli? Or did she hitch a ride on a UN plane? I know it’s not particularly deep, but I’m always amazed by Angelina’s low-key, no-drama traveling.
Oh, there are even more quotes here, in another Reuters article. Jolie praised the revolutionaries, saying:
“What’s extraordinary … is that a lot of the people who are part of the solution and are working in positions of even military, and you find that just before the revolution they had retired, or were running restaurants or were selling baby clothes and they’ve all quit their jobs and they are all working here now on behalf of their country. They have all lost family members … they’ve suffered casualties themselves, they’ve lost limbs themselves and yet they’re all really fighting for something they believe in, and for the future of the country for their children, so it’s quite moving.”
“I’m also here on behalf of the Libyan people to show them solidarity. I think this revolution on behalf of human rights, which is what I feel these people really have been doing and what they have pushed for, and to help them to implement these new laws and help them with the future of their country.”
Here are some photos of Angelina yesterday in Libya:
Photos courtesy of Fame and Reuters/Jason Tanner/Handout.
It’s so low key that she always has photos with injured people immdiately spread all over the internet. She’ll stop the Middle East conflict on her own.
Jolie for president!
I’m joking, but only just. She does have more international experience than many former candidates out there.
And she knows about economies, cultures and issues too, not just about fancy dinners and flower shows like many ambassadors.
She’s gorgeous!
All that is missing from that last pic is the “Lifetouch” branding on the bottom left hand side.
Yes, it’s amazing how the photographs are viral the moment she lands isn’t it?
eye roll.
I am yet to see her discuss the plight of asylum seekers, ie refugees, that are held in Australia in detention.
Some days I think that she is sent [by the UN] to places strategically. In other words, when it comes to human rights issues [relating to refugees detained in democratic countries] relating to American allies [ie Australia], she has no comment.
There are many things I find weird about her. Her youngest children are at a significant age and yet they probably spend more time with nannies because the moment some disaster happens, there is Angelina to smile and visit people and then leave after two days.
I absolutely disagree with her take on what’s going on in Lybia but I admire that she doesn’t let anything stand between her and what she deems the right thing to do.
Was wandering about “in personal capacity” too. Maybe they couldn’t garanty her safety and she wanted to go anyway, so this “personal capacity” makes UN not responsible if shit happens?
Hand to God, when it comes to humanitarian aide and compassion, my personal opinion of Ange and/or Brad doesn’t matter: I’m just grateful they’re doing something about it.
Awww this woman is my hero, among many. Angie is such a freaking rockstar.
@Auds. Wow, how strange she didn’t discuss that yet.
She has also never donated sand to any of the disappearing island nations nor publicly shown sympathy for those wearing kilts in the winter.
Nor have I ever seen her worry about lonely sea turtles and anteaters with small tongues.
It’s a disgrace she has not yet discussed every problem in the world by now.
At least, she is the only celeb to bring up the issue of refugee things and real world in desperate need on this planet, regularly. Not a low key? It’s just naive and childish react. And if she doesn’t move towards them, we don’t even think of the letter of R of refugee in the site like this. That’s the more important key.
Have you ever seen or heard of AJ’s words about her issues? She knows it. You know? She has tone of all around those issues.
Auds, the asylum seekers here (Australia) have access to running water, food, shelter, education, even computers, tvs, video games, air conditioning etc. Thats probably why neither Howard nor Rudd/Gillard have received reprimands. Despite all the arguing going on about us doing on-shore processing, the asylum seekers are better off even in places like Woomera or Baxter or Villawood than in war-torn countries. You cannot compare Australia with places like Lyba. Nice try at diversion and attacking Angelina though. Anything to denigrate Angeina’s work instead of supporting her. Rolls eyes.
Flan I hope you’re not being facetious about an issue that is significant – the detainment of asylum seekers/refugees in democratic countries. They are human being as well – not people wearing kilts. I find your comment offensive because you’re just belittling people. There are many children who are caught up on boats, and most recently – at least in Australia – there were situations where children have died and if they don’t die, the government seeks to organise a deal with Malaysia [a country that hasn’t signed the UN convention for refugees] to ship unaccompanied children out of Australia.
Are they supposed to be insignificant or something?
I’m just throwing the question out there. She is so vocal about refugees in places she goes, and is is – after all – a goodwill ambassador, so refugees are ‘her bag’.
As for the children, make up your mind haters. One minute whe drags them everywhere with her, the next she leaves them with nannies. I guarantee she spends more time with her children than past and present Prime Ministers, Ministers and Diplomats.
Or Presidents such as Obama and his children.
It takes more than few photo ops and sad faces to be a diplomate. But then again Americans almost elected Sarah Palin.
She was there in Hungary with Pitt when the weapons scandal erupted. Within hours she hops on her private plane and does an unscheduled ‘goodwill ambassador’ trip to Libya of all places?So, let me get this straight. She is not obligated to go to Libya right now as it isn’t part of a UN agreement. Why is she doing it then? Isn’t it her turn to watch the children? She can’t wait until sPitt is done gun smuggling..oops, I mean, filming?
Auds:
you must know for celebs it’s trendier to go to the 3rd world countries taking photos than showing the misery in the US or Australia.
Plenty of people do charity work but only this hypocrite has all the tabloids and gossip bloggers on her payroll to present her as the saviour.
Another pitiful and lame attack by FFer Olivia. No comment on homewrecker Jen in her thread, Olivia? Lol, I know why.
Big hand for Angie and her refugee awareness campaign.
I wonder, though, if she gets killed on one of her many humanitarian missions, and everyone declares her a hero, a national treasure, and all the rest, will anyone point out that *just maybe* the mother of six very young children has a responsibility to those children not to put herself in such extremely dangerous situations? Nahhh. Dumb question. She is the world’s mother.
lol Olivia.
Everything aside, Angelina isn’t a dummy, but Brad. My goodness. I’m beginning to think that Brad is the trophy wife here.
Heygeniuses, what rubbish. If Angelina had the tabloids and gossip bloggers on her payroll, she wouldn’t be accused of anything and everything under the sun. And Aniston would be called out for her homewrecking. If there is one reason why Angelina’s fans are vocal in their defence, its because all of the tabloids and blogs are AGAINST her.
Boo, why don’t you ask that question of Obama? He has 2 small young daughters. By nature of his job, he is under increased threat of assassination. But you hypocrites don’t ask these questions of others. Do you?
@Heygeniuses, that’s true. Madonna is a prime example [especially with her supposed charity failing], but she got tired of it. I just expected – now that Angelina has taken her duties more seriously – that she’d be more vocal in general.
Look though, the positive thing about Angelina as an ambassador is that she has got her shit together. Years ago, she was all over the place. I just don’t get why she is with Brad.
OMG Shawna, and there I was thinking that this thread wouldn’t feature a ‘Jennifer’ reference.
That’s it. All commenters who raise the subject of Jennifer, without provocation are gonna have to go to rehab!
This is not the first time she has traveled somewhere without it being attached to the UN. She actually has some amazing contacts. I read once that someone said she has numbers that people in political higher offices don’t. So nothing new really.
I wonder if people like Olivia get an alert sent to them to post their silly comments. This I see is the new angle for her and her tribe. Funny how they follow Brad and Angie so closely. Now when this turns out to be nothing they will come up with something else.
Wow the silliness of some adults.. all because 2 people are sharing a life together.
So now Brad is suppose to be not smart. Whatever. Everyone that meets and talks to him says it different. I knew the attacks on Brad would be the focus once the fake reunions were proved to be just NOT TRUE. A dumb man can’t hold a strong woman, and a strong woman wouldn’t stay long with a man that does not challenge her.
They work because they are both smart and interesting people.
I get that the none fans have a hard time handling that fact.
Flan loved it, how funny. I know these simpletons think Angelina is the only one to save the entire world.
LOL@Angie’s haters. Crazy is not the word for some of them.
So proud of AJ
The sexism amongst women is overwhelming and shows that when it comes to the glass ceiling, WE are our own glass ceiling. Our own worst enemies. It isn’t an issue when a father of small children takes on a job as most powerful man in the world in this post Sept 11 era. No. Because its acceptable for a man. But woe betide any woman put herself in harms way. The blatant sexism and pettiness on here is disgusting and proves that women are dedicated to tearing each other down and destroying each other, rather than continuing women’s lib. I suppose in the 1940s sexist narrow mindset of some on here, Brad should be the humanitarian, the ‘man’. putting himself in harms way for the benefit of his country, whilst the little wife/partner Angelina stays at home in the kitchen with a twin on each hip. You people really make me ashamed to be a woman in 2011, when its that important to you to tear a woman down that you will devalue your own gender just to do it. Have a good look at yourselves.
Shawna, the President is an elected official. He travels with teams of security to maximize his safety, and his trips are part of actual national business. Angelina is an actress by profession, and she took this trip without any support from any UN or other agency (see the article? Note the phrase, “in a personal capacity.”) Hello–NOT THE SAME THING. AT ALL.
Auds, my comment on Jen was in direct reference to self-admitted Female First (an irony if ever there was one, since they exist solely to tear one of their own down) member and Aniston lover and by default Angelina hater. Please follow the bouncing ball, ok? Or learn the culture of this place. If you’re a newbie, I’ll let it slide since you perhaps didn’t know who this Olivia is and her purpose for posting here on Angelina threads.
Boo, Angelina still has bodyguards. And Presidents can, and do, get assassinated even with security. Or even assaulted (Bush, shoes). It is VERY MUCH the same thing. And you know it.
As for the “sexist” claim, another big NO. Any parent, male or female, who takes unnecessary, life-threatening risks (climbing Everest, for example, or trudging through a country in the midst of violent revolution where you have no business other than to get your picture taken) when there are small children at home are irresponsible people. Decide before you are having children if you are willing to sacrifice your own selfish desires to BE THERE for those children.
Shawna, do not ever think to tell me what I know. I can think through these ideas critically, without my Mad Angelina Love clouding my vision. Angelina is not a president…and this visit of hers is not the same even if you pretend that it is or say it is a thousand times.
I applaud her work with refugees, but in this case I wonder how much in the way of resources (security etc) were expended to support an actress’s personal mission to “express solidarity” with Libyan rebels. A little weird.
I agree Lisa, I think the haters have any posts on angie and brad on alerts so they can be the first to spew their hatred on them lol. They are most obsess with them that the fans are especially Olivia
Shawna I have no idea who Olivia is and I’d wager that a site like this, has many visitors, so it would be difficult to keep track. I was just trying to be humorous in regard to the recent film incident and Brad being a producer and all that. Don’t take it so seriously and relax on the anger.
As for your earlier comment about asylum seekers in Australia. They may get running water, but many are there for years, some don’t socialise with communities and then there are the psychological and psychiatric issues that communities have to deal with once they do get out – if they’re not shipped to another hellhole country by the government.
And it’s not an issue of ‘hate’ (re: Angelina). It’s just an average observation and comment and no, I don’t think it is smart to travel to Libya with minimal safety when you’re a parent. Sorry if that’s upsetting to ‘true believers’. Perhaps Angelina’s children will feel differently when they are older – it’s not as though this world looks like it’s going to be sorted any time soon.
I think her low-key travelling has to do with the fact that she doesn’t “pap” herself.
Boo, being a President is an unnecessary risk. So is signing up for the forces when you have a wife and a child/ren. But our men come back from war and often see their newborn for the first time. It wasn’t “necessary” for those men who are not single, to sign up and risk their lives. Define it how you want, almost any decision, male or female, to go to war, to accept a high profile position, possesses risks. If we are to take your stance to its logical conclusion, then only single men should enlist in the forces. And only single men should seek higher office. Also, your comment on climbing Mt Everest shows the level of non-critical thinking and rationale you employ. Many Members of Parliament in my country have climbed Mt Kilimenjaro (sp?). For a children’s charity that has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars. Many MPs have made the pilgrimage. Are you saying that because they are pollies, many with children (one I know of, our Shadow Treasurer Joe Hockey had 2 small children at home, and one on the way – buried his wife’s ultrasound there, because they wre told they couldn’t have any more children. It was cathartic for him to climb that mountain and bury that ultrasound), that they shouldn’t engage in charities like that? Or do the Kokoda trail, which is so important to our country? Your thinking is very shallow, very simplistic, and shows a lack of lateral forethought.
And Boo, I think it is your Mad Angelina hate that is clouding your vision and ability to rationalise.
Auds thanks for your fake concerns about Angelina’s kids because we all know that you don’t give a hoot about her kids. You just want to attack her so leave the kids out of it.
My first and last post to you cause I have a feeling that you came on here to cause trouble while looking for attention …just saying
Can anyone find a source originating from Hungary that can verify that the incident actually happened? Us Weekly is not a reliable. Only a person who doesn’t know anything about legitimate media would believe would what they report. Its ok to have speculation about a tabloid story and gossip. When people just throw their full belief into tabloid report it makes me queasy…they are gonna fall for alot of BS in life.
I think some celebs do the humanitarian thing for the wrong reasons.They see how popular Angie has become and want the same level of fame.
The difference is that Angie truley does this with the motive to help, she wants to make the lives of people in need somewhat better.THAT is her passion, not Hollywood.
How can I not admire this woman.She is just amazing. So concerned about others and always trying to help.And she is such a brave woman.I just wish that she would be careful.As a fan I always worry about her when she goes to these places.And I always pray for her safety.
I don’t hate Angelina, madly or otherwise. I like some of her movies, in fact. I thought “A Mighty Heart” was moving and well done. Believe it or not, anyone who comments on her behavior is not a “hater.” Lighten up with the drama.
And signing up for “the forces” is a way to FEED one’s children. It is a necessary job, unlike traipsing all over war-torn countries to make statements. How shameful that you would put Angelina’s publicity stunts in the same category as our military.
islandgirl, seriously, some of you need to chill.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Angelina is a saint. She is a human being with flaws like everyone else. But the haters on here are so obsessed with their hatred of her that they look for any, ANY, reason to attack her no matter how petty and spiteful. She does not deserve to be sainted, but nor does she deserve the majority of these attacks on here either. She has shown, through doing this for a decade and a half, a third of her life, well before the Brad thing, that this is a passion of hers. Its not to ‘make amends’ for any ‘perceived’ slight the haters make it out to be. To be involved in this for a third of your life, no matter what you think of her personally, shows she is deeply committed to her UN work. Say what you want about her as an actress (I am not fond of her style of movies) but for people to claim this woman who is lauded by the likes of Mandela, was elected to the Foreign Council (seperate from the UN) and who goes to these places on the ground, spends time with these people and listens to their stories is ‘only doing it for publicity’ is absolutely disgusting. She is Angelina beeping Jolie. She doesn’t need the publicity. She could have all that publicity without going to these places. My issue is with those that seek to denigrate her reason for doing these things. Hate on her all you want for her movies or her personal life. But insinuating, as many of the haters do, that she is only doing it for publicity, is very sick and depraved. No one goes to THAT level if all they want is publicity. She can gain much better publicity just being her than going to that length. A decade and a half is a long time for a ‘charade’. She is not a saint, but she is not a bad person either.
Boo, one does NOT *NEED* to sign up with the forces to feed their children. They can get a job in an office, in construction, in any industry. They CHOSE the army as a CAREER. Its a lifestyle choice and career. How utterly shameful and disgraceful that you would call what Angelina has done, for a decade and a half, ‘publicity stunts’. That just shows you don’t have the maturity to discuss this. If you truly think someone who is that committed and does this for a third of the time they’ve been alive, is doing this ‘just for a publicity stunt’, that is very sick and you should very ashamed of yourself. That is just not rational.
How shameful Boo, that you would conflate her humanitarian work (10 years plus) with a publicity stunt.
ghaad. this angelina jolie needs to get over herself. her messianic complex is off-putting and annoying. pillow-lips is not a qualification for world affairs, dear.
Angie doin’ her thing. 😎
Lol @ people pretending to care about her safety. Maybe if brad wasn’t the little woman in the relationship he would be going on these ~dangerous~ humanitarian visits. Nah, he’s a wimp. Go Angie !
Exactly Rose. Its disgusting that Boo and her ilk would suggest the UN who see thousands of celebs and polies many times over, and Nelson Mandela, can’t see a fake when they see it. That a woman who has done this for a decade and a half, is doing this as a ‘publicity stunt’. It is sick and displays an immature and spiteful ignorance. A person like Angelina does not do this on such a highly committed level, for a decade and a half, for just some cheap and passing ‘publicity’. Heck, other celebs like Aniston get more glowing publicity for doing nothing but sunbaking, dating and shopping. Who would bother with the indepth level of security and listening to the people’s stories, on the ground, when better publicity can be had just shopping and visiting solariums? To say that someone invests a decade and a half of going to these places and spending time listening to these people’s stories, even writing a book, and even getting her essays published in quarterlys, does all that for a bit of cheap fleeting publicity is ignorant and simplistic thinking.
I’m no big fan of Jolie, Pitt or Aniston, but I have to speak out on this refugee issue.
I was a refugee in Austria in Treiskirchen after we escaped from Eastern Europe.
Yes, the condition where good, much better than I what I
@ Auds
Some days I think that she is sent [by the UN] to places strategically.
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Finally! someone with some good observation skills.
She is a member of the CFR. Of course she is sent by her handlers to these places on purpose and to fit there agenda.
Just wondering how you support the people when a good majority do not want the uprising. Egypt is actually worse since the uprising there. Where are the rebels getting their money and guns to fight? Who is supporting the rebels? Are they really any better then who was in before? The problems is that these people fight then get in a worse situation then try to come to Europe. Europe is going broke as it is they cannot take anymore people at this time. Very sad situation that I don’t think Angie has really thought through. Who exactly is she supporting? And what exactly will her visit accomplish? And please don’t say to bring awareness to the country. Everyone in North America is very aware of this situation.
I can assure you this trip was not a “spur of the moment” thing. It probably took months to organize. None of her trips are spur of the moment.
She may not be there in an “official” UNHCR capacity but the UNHCR still spoke for her and announced her trip and she still conferenced with UNHCR officials while she was there.
Flan, you are hilarious and spot on. Why isn’t she working on that disappearing sand? Bad Angie.
Auds, Flan isn’t belittling people. She is belittling your inability to grasp the significant difference in the situations of asylum seekers. And your rather lame attempt to use this to attack Angelina’s admirable work.
Enough of this nonsense about Angelina not spending time with her children. It should be abundantly clear by now that she and Brad spend a great deal of time with their children and that any nannies they employ are ancillary help to them. The lies spread about the nannies and her mothering are some of the most blatant attempts to denigrate her as a mother and are most offensive. You see this type of attack a lot by other mothers who feel guilt about their own parenting skills or history.
As a woman I am deeply offended to see women attacking other women when they have nothing to go on but tabloids and grossly speculative gossip forums. We shant mention the absurdity of using photos to decipher parenting skills.
Paps? Someone thinks these are pap photos? I seem to remember a whole host of news reporters and photographers covering the revolution in Libya. Angelina is NEWS. Pure and simple. Of course, almost everywhere she goes there will be photos. This isn’t some cloak and dagger secret mission.
And, of course, her visits are often strategic. It was her friend, Richard Holbrooke, who suggested she go to Pakistan after the floods and the fact that she went so far north into a very dangerous area suggested to me her visit served a very important diplomatic purpose. It may have just been her presence that sent a message but I remember her saying in an interview that she was asked to go and she knew enough not to ask why. When the reporter asked if her visit helped, she replied she was told it did though Angelina didn’t ask specifically why it helped.
It’s fun to speculate but these are things we are not privy to.
I am a Jen fan – (its gotten so bad with the 2 different camps that we now have to identify ourselves) but come on how can you not admire this woman for her work like this. 10 years is a long time to be doing work like this for publicity. Especially since those women saying it are also saying she’s only an actress – so publicity comes with the territory anyway!
And those saying she’s a mother and shouldn’t do it well here’s a newsflash for ya – MOST mothers who work and are not with their kids all day feel guilt.
But we still do what we gotta do and eventually the kids grow up and maybe respect that fact that we lived our lives the way we saw fit.
i think she’s gaining weight, looks good!
@Shawna. ITA! you’re awesome! Sometimes though, I believe some of the poeple that bash Angie are sorta unconsciously genuinely concerned about her. B’cos they are too self-concerned to do risky stuff themselves… and say it’s b’cos they need to stay alive for their kids and family…
Look, ‘skeptics’. Shit happens all the time… If your number’s up, you go. I DON’T WANT ANYTHING to happen to Angie but…we can all see: she’s maximizing the quality of her life, her few years on this Earth. If this stuff fulfills her, then she’s got to do it and becos it’s highly beneficial to those that matter.
These people aren’t comfortable enough to sit behind computers in air-conditioned houses and offices with Internet access to bash her…
Plus, which current EXTREMELY famous A-list HW actress would ever do stuff like this, stuff of this particular RISK, stuff that even your detractors are always taken aback about, if Angie were to quit? NONE. Not GP, not SB, not Julia,not Drew Barrymore, Not Halle Berry, Not Cat Zeta-Jones, not K-Stew… None. NONE AT ALL.
Go Angie! LOVE her!
@Auds. My comment was belittling your surprise that she has not spend time yet on your particular issue and nobody else.
If they’re close to your heart, I hope you are doing something for them and not just mention them when you want to feel indignant.
And thanks, Katherine and Teri, you got it exactly right.
@Heavenbound; Gosh!~ Just come out and say what you really mean… Conspiracy theories abound in my country about that kinda sh*t. The CFR are Satanists and the UN wants to establish a NEW WORLD ORDER and Obama is the Anti-christ and Jay-Z is Illuminati and that kinda sh*t…! so there should be no help while thousands are in turmoil.
Why dontcha be the ‘lone voice of reason’ Heavenbound? Go ahead…
Boy, this site is(or, more correctly, some commenters are) walking a fine line with the politics!
And yet there is resounding silence concerning Hilary Swank’s attendance for cash at Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov’s 35th birthday party. She denied that she was going to go, but there she was, lauding him (not sure whether it was for his Taliban-like actions with respect to women’s rights or for his diversion of the country’s treasury into his own pockets).
Say what you will about Jolie, she is politically asture, and will never be caught in this sort of $ham (like Beyonce, Nelly Furtado and countless others) – no way will she go to Australia, a signatory nation to the UNHCR refugee convention, and criticize them for detaining asylum seekers.
Go Flan! lol’ed at your post to Auds upthread, lol!
@ Sakiyuki #58
Agh! Let the crazy begin…..
Thanks Sakyiwaa.
Oh and glad to see more people calling those out who complain she should be with her kids.
That’s for both parents to arrange, not just the woman. Don’t be a drag on women trying to make a difference in this world and see the positive effect this will have on her children too.
@Heavenbound: ROFL @ you! You don’t even know what the CFR is, do you? The Council on Foreign Relations is an independent organization that has nothing whatever to do with the UN or any other organization. You really need to do your homework before you come on here posting one silly statement after the next. You do that a lot.
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@Auds: Your bogus concern about the welfare of Angie’s children is soooo touching.
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@ Cheyenne
I know exactly what the Council of Foreign Relations is and what they represent. I’m sorry but you are not the authority here of thinking you know it all. I am well educated on the subject. So back off bully.
@ 8 Flan – LOL! Spot on!
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I came to this link just to see if the JenHens were complaining yet this early in the day.
@Heavenbound: You knew what the CFR is after you looked it up and couldn’t retract your original post, otherwise you would never have posted it. This blog isn’t Female First. If you come on here making silly comments, expect to be called out on them. Oh, and learn to spell people’s names correctly, would you? It’s a courtesy to them and it really isn’t all that difficult.
Maybe she can find out where Gaddafi is hiding
@ Cheyenne
I spelled it that way because I felt like it! DA.
And please take all your vitrol and hatred to someone else’s door step, you are not welcome in mine.
@Brangeloonies Guys, you really should chill out a bit. Disagreeing with her politics or questioning UN motivations does not equal Angie-hate. I’m a fan but I disagree with her take on this particular crisis very strongly and Heavenbound’s take is much closer to my own.
The same goes to “invisible” refugees. She’s supposed to care for all of them, no? Why is it she never, not even once in 10 years went somewhere closer to home politically speaking? It’s not a crime on her part, of course, I’m not sure how much say she has in where she goes in fact if she has any. Still this issue is real and does not exist only in hater’s mind.
Just like Arab Spring doesn’t look to be doing lots of good to Arab world at the moment – lots of unrest, lots of people dead or injured, millions forced out of their homes, countries in ruins and almost no hope for any real change in political regimes.
She is amazing. A rock star. Needs to be down on Wall St in Manhattan tho, to support her fellow countrymen and women who are fighting to transform her own homeland–
It seems to me that Jolie is sincere in regards to the issue of refugees.
10 years is a long time to “pretend ” to care about anything.
The last thing Jolie needs is publicity.
She is also donating money to what she believes in.
She is walking the walk, not just talking the talk!
None of us really know what happened between brad and Angelina during his marriage to Jen, although in my opinion emotional cheating is most likely.
She still deserves credit for the good things she does in the world. Humans have many faults.
To me this is all kinds of wrong.
Wish I had more time to read this thread, SHAWNA, you ROCK!
@Heavenbound: You “felt like” calling Sakyiwaa “Sakiyuki”? To what purpose, if I may ask? There are only two reasons to deliberately spell someone’s name wrong: 1) to show disrespect for that person, or 2) pure laziness.
Neither one makes you look good.
@N.D.: I think too much was expected of the “Arab Spring” to begin with. Everybody was delighted to get Mubarak out of Egypt but not many people gave much thought to what was going to replace him. The same goes for Libya, Yemen and every other country currently experiencing turmoil. Kicking the dictators out is a first step but it won’t solve the problem if what replaces them is a lot worse.
I think Arab Spring is like many revolutions uncertain, difficult, bloody and their is no guarantee that the outcome will be better for the people.
Is there a guarantee for anythting in life?
It’s their choice and they have every right in the world to fight for a change that they want to see in their countries.
I certainly won’t be critical of a movement that so many are willing to die for from my comfy couch.
I hope that they have a better life and more freedom in the future, especially women.
It’s about time that Middle East joined the free world.
Good for Angelina for carring.
@Cheyenne. Lol! I’m in stitches here! I’m surprised at her timorousness…
Instead of substantiating her allegations with the required facts, she decided to spell my name wrong… I’m amazed!
And here I thought she was gonna be bold enough to expatiate on her theories on the CFR.
Gosh, the hypocrisy… such a Homo Sapien, is nothing, if not, Hellbound…
@ Cheyenne
Of all people you ask such a question? You are the number on aggressor in this site. If you don’t like what I post simply skip it. You love to stir trouble. My original post was not directed at you, actually non of them are. I don’t like interacting with you. So back off.
Go Jolie!! Do your thing!! Following her heart,to help others in need.
Sakyiwaa** IMO you have the prettiest name on the board!!!
can I comment yet?
Bottom line: EVERYBODY has a cause or “thing” that tugs their heartstrings and makes them want to help/change it. (And if they don’t, what does that say about them as a fellow human being?)
So leave her alone. At least she’s DOING SOMETHING!
I Love her. I admit to not knowing enough about the situation in Libya to comment on the revolution there but I am guessing she went with the explicit permission(if not by official request) of the UN. I think people have the right to be critical about the political situation there and in lending her support to the ‘Arab Spring’ she is going beyond her usual role and delving into making a political statement. People have the right to disagree with that statement I still admire the work she does. I believe her main objective is still to visit the sick and the displaced as she has done over and over again across the world for a decade.
I don’t get why people always go after Jolie.
What did she do to anyone?
what I don’t understand is why people think she should go there undercover and without letting anyone know! the whole point is to publicise the war zones, the traumatised areas and so on. that’s her job. bring publicity to otherwise ignored problems all over the world. bloody hell, how thick can people be!
@Hannah: ITA and it’s not all that hard to spell either.
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@lily: You are absolutely correct. There are no guarantees and they have every right to fight for the changes THEY want.
As long as they and everybody else recognize that sometimes the changes you wanted are not the changes you get. But that’s the risk you have to take.
Sakyiwaa: Instead of substantiating her allegations with the required facts, she decided to spell my name wrong… I’m amazed!
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Typical passive-aggressive behavior. It’s about par for the course. 😉
@85 Ann – Since all of us here know Angie went to Libya, I guess her trip was publicized…
It doesn’t have to be publicized during the trip. After the trip is just fine too. Remember that there is a frantic war going on and some idiots might do something stupid if they knew she was there.
@Imelda (like you I am a Jen fan, nothing personal it’s just that she makes the kind of movies I like more). However, I do admire Angelina for her humanitarian work, the fact that she is prepared to give of her time when asked, is admirable.
I don’t think much of Brad Pitt though (and to be frank when the marriage ended my only thought was good riddance to bad rubbish), my poor opinion of him is not new. It began shortly after his marriage to Jennifer when gossip sites started heaping insults at her over her looks, with Perez Hilton dubbing he Maniston, and I felt that as her partner he should have defended her more (just my opinion).
I don’t see much growth in him in this area, even in his relationship with Angelina, where he has done little to defend her from the barrage of insults she has also faced as a result of being with him. His Parade interview for me was a vast improvement in this area, he actually said some nice things about her.
I also thought that it was nice of him to finally admit to Jennifer that their relationship was not what she had thought at the end, and that he had only been pretending.
However, I still found him to be a selfish, self centered individual. This opinion was informed by the fact that after espousing on the fact that his kids were the most important thing in his life. He still went on to say that although they had been asking him to marry their mother, he was still bent on making some stupid political statement (at least for the near future).
I have no opinion on the rights and wrongs of being married either way, I have friends in both situations; and I say go with what works for you best. I have no children of my own either, but many Nephews, Nieces and God Children, and I have learnt from them, that when they start asking you for something like this, it means that it bothers them you are not. And if truly his children are the most important thing in his life, their needs should take precedence over everything else, and on this point I just don’t see that level of commitment from him.
By the way I don’t think a person can be stolen away from their partner, they are either committed to the relationship or not. So on that basis I have no problem with Angelina, Leanne or Jennifer (who to me seem to have been singled out for excessive vilification on this issue).
Phew! I will get off my soapbox now, and add that the above is just my opinion (from the little I have observed). Not knowing any of them personally, I concede that I could be completely wrong.
@Horsepoor Hanna, awwwww! Thanks! You’re so sweet! I happen to think your name ROCKS too! I love, love seeing it on the boards on CB. and your comments always, always crack me up even if I’m only ‘lurking’ and don’t say anything :D.
@Cheyenne; I’m gonna think you’re awesome for life even though, we only owe our acquaintance to cyberspace and great taste in a PHENOMENAL lady… 🙂 Please, don’t waste your breath on our resident ‘Artful Dodger’ of the actual issue. I’m good and frankly, ‘it’ ain’t worthy of your superior intellect and timely camaraderie :).
@willow. LMAO! Please, please, feel free… 🙂
N.D.:
Disagreeing with her politics or questioning UN motivations does not equal Angie-hate.
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I think the problem is that people dont like conspiracy theories, such as UN is gonna take over the world, illuminati etc
The same goes to “invisible” refugees. She’s supposed to care for all of them, no? Why is it she never, not even once in 10 years went somewhere closer to home politically speaking?
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Im not sure what you mean by “invisible”
refugees (eng is my 2 language) but i know she donated money to kids who are alone, seeking refuge/visas in the US
(The US didnt pay for their lawyers)
And if you google youll find many interviews/articles where she discuss alot of different problems. Yoll find alot of info on UNs website
Just like Arab Spring doesn’t look to be doing lots of good to Arab world at the moment – lots of unrest, lots of people dead or injured, millions forced out of their homes, countries in ruins and almost no hope for any real change in political regimes.
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So what are the world suppose to do, i think the last decades has shown that “waiting it out” doesnt work. You have to support people if they try to make things better for them self, and of course give them the help they need.
Angie is an ambassador which means she has to be diplomatic.
@ Cheyenne :
Yes, I agree, life is full of changes and often things don’t turn out the way we humans would like, but that is how it goes.
Sometimes risks don’t turn out the rewards.
I respect Jolie for going to these dangerous countries, she must have strong convictions to travel to such places.
I think it’s great she’s hung in there for ten years as a goodwill ambassador. Win win for her and the UN. But this trip is just plain weird to me.
Her point of view on basically every topic is exactly the one of the UN (that is often sugar coating or flat out lying, and only ever deals with few strategic cases). She does not have actual opinions on situations, it appears, so she just goes to places and softly talks the good talk.
Reality is completely different from what the UN wants to portray. In Lybia there actually is an extremely high probability of political victory for the extremist party. That would mean very reduced (if present at all) personal freedom and the Islamic law will probably be reinstated soon, too.
“Arab spring” is international code for “please, do NOT install missile bases pointing at our asses!”
Also, great concern is diffusing about these countries acquiring nuclear bombing technology from fellow Islamic country, Iran (very likely scenario, too).
Talk about that, Angie, and stop associating yourself with the UN.
Rosina, I feel almost exactly the same way, I feel both women have been unfairly castigated, yet Brad Pitt is allowed float about on rarefied air. I like Jolie, admire her humanitarian work, wish Jen happiness, but Pitt I can take or leave. Preferably, leave.
The problem with Arab Spring as I see it is that it actually turned out exactly as was expected by many experts and the worst isn’t there yet. The other problem is the extreme hypocrisy with which those issues and events are treated by western media and politicians. As a fan I’m not happy Angelina is endorsing any of it. But I can accept she has her own ideas and beliefs and trust that she’s still sincere in her attempts to make our world better.
This trip does seem odd in lieu of the fact that she isn’t there in any official capacity.
Why go if it isn’t an official trip and you are just an actress? She isn’t a political official-she hasn’t been elected to any position. She has no reason to be there aside from garnering attention to the cause but everyone knows what is going on there.
So why, really, go there?
I think she’s sticking her toes into deeper water than necessary.
Just go on your official trips, Angelina. Look beautifully concerned, make your canned speeches and go home.
Go, Angelina! Keep doing what you’re doing. While there is nothing intrinsically wrong with having fame and/or fortune, it’s nice to see a celebrity using their fame and their fortune to give back and to help those that are hurting.
If only the refugees could get a dollar for every Angelina comment…. and who cares of she’s doing it for PR or she’s genuinely concerned. The point is she’s getting a lot of publicity and let a lot of people know about what’s going on in war torn countries and the displaced people. After reading an article about her visiting a refugee camp, I looked into it more and started donating. I have been ever since. So either you quit hating on her and actually do something to help others or just shut your mouth.
I think Jolie is very sincere, kind and good hearted in her efforts.
I don’t believe that all she does volunteering wise is for publicity.
Nobody would adopt three children, not just one, for getting good press.
I have a good feeling about her intentions.
She inspires me to volunteer more.
Thank you for that, Angelina.
Jolie is heavily involved in international humanitarian efforts apart form her UNHCR work. It makes perfect sense that a hands on humanitarian would want to check out troiuble spots where her nmoney has gone or will be going. For all we know, while this may not be an “official” UNHCR visit, she is obviously doing refugee work while there.
She met with reps of UNHCR, she met with Doctors Without Borders (a huge recipient of Jolie Pitt Foundation money and Jolie’s personal money) touring their facilities and she met with leaders of the various factions in this struggle.
Why is this so hard to understand? Anyone who still thinks she is just an entertainer dabbling and getting photo ops has seriously not been paying any attention to her work for the last 10 years. She moved on from being merely a friendly Goodwill Ambassador long ago.
It seems to stick in some people’s craws that Angelina can be more than an empty headed actress and is taken seriously in diplomatic and high governmental circles. They also seem to resent that she knows this issue extremely well and may have valuable contributions to make in seeking solutions and persuading governments to act.
Heine: So why, really, go there?
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Now that’s a good question. Really, why? Why go there when she could lay on the beach with her ass in the air all day long, fry herself under a tanning bed, blow-dry her hair three times a day, hang out with a bunch of vapid women exchanging vapid inanities, etc. Why try to do anything constructive?
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What Jess #100 said.
Cheyenne: What is constructive about her being there?
Instead of not answering the question by being obnoxious and talking about what other people are doing who are completely unrelated to this story, how about actually saying something constructive.
So really, what is constructive about her visit? Everyone knows about the Libyan situation. How is her mere presence doing anything? She’s “meeting with officials from all sides” who will likely nod and smile while she talks, pat her on the head and send her on her way.
Jess: Those are the only two options? How about being able to criticize people’s actions and still having the capacity to help others?
Just because I do not agree with her actions does not mean I don’t help others. Stop being so hyperbolic.
Celebitchy, could you please let me know why some comments in your view are spam, but they have no racist, bigoted or mean remarks and they lack any swear words??
I see several posts above with a lot worse language.
Thank you!
She really is a true hero. I wish I had her life, she seems to have everything one needs to be happy: talent, compassion, love, beauty, intelligence, family and a lot of heart.
@ Heine : Jolie made me donate when I most likely wouldn’t have.
I also don’t always watch the news, because it seems so negative lately with the European Economic crisis, wars and all other troubles in the world.
But she made me look and consider things in the world that I wouldn’t have otherwise.
She is doing something right, because I’m paying more attention.
Heine: What she is doing constructive is bring the problems in these areas to the attention of people who might otherwise ignore them from other sources. But when it comes from her, they listen. You may not like it, but that’s how it is.
She’s been doing this for ten years now and it’s something she deeply cares about. Her commitment goes way beyond “looking beautifully concerned” and “making canned statements”. And whether or not you want to admit it, it counts for a lot more than laying around the beach doing nothing.
BTW Jess never mentioned you in her comment. But if you took it personally, I’m sure you have your reasons.
I think that AJ does a lot of good representing the plight of innocent people caught up in horrible situations such as war or famine. If she becomes political a la Sean Penn she will lose her credibility in the eyes of many.
Heine, why in the world would you expect to know the ins and outs of her visit? She doesn’t report to you and you are not the intended recipient of any reports, confidences or discussions she may be having. Not that I am aware of at least.
Why is this beyond your understanding that many things go on in the world that you are not privy to? If you feel you MUST know the answers to these questions then direct them to Jolie’s representatives or to the people and organizations she’s working with. Maybe they will share your belief that it is imperative that you, Heine from Celebitchy, be thoroughly briefed on the situation and all of Ms. Jolie’s activities in Libya. Good luck.
Angelina will be harshly criticized by haters if she goes to her UN trips or if she sunbathes and does nothing. She just does not care aboout haters.
She will propably continue with her commitment with the UNCHR regardless of what hens cluck. Good for her.
@ Katherine :
Thank you very much!
Very well said.
I wish people would stop going after Jolie.
She is just trying to help.
She is not obligated to report every little thing to everybody every time.
@ Heine :
When you spend the amount of time, money and other resources volunteering like Jolie does than you can analyze her every little step, I will promise not to complain!
Katherine: Where did I say I should be reported to? Where did I say I expect to know the ins and outs of her visit? Where did I say I MUST know the answers to my questions?
It is beyond my understanding that you can’t criticize this woman without people jumping down your throat with obnoxious, sarcastic, hyperbolic remarks.
Some people wonder what her purpose is in Libya right now. That’s all there is to it. I can comment on the story even if it is a criticism.
petal: That is frankly disappointing. I didn’t realize that people really did just follow the celebrity lead. Watch the news. Read a newspaper. Read news websites. I implore you.
Cheyenne: Jess mentioned that anyone who was criticizing (hating on) her should shut up and do something to help others. I had criticized her, thus I was included in her comment. Logical reasoning, yes?
Anyway, like I said, other than bringing awareness, what is constructive about her visit?
I think her fans over-inflate her influence and capacity to really make political change happen over there.
Like it or not, she’s just an American actress who does goodwill missions. To leaders of a country that is being torn apart and is in ruins, she’s a busybody nobody sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong. They won’t take her seriously and she isn’t going to affect peace or political stability in Libya, I’m sorry.
Oh, and I take no issue with her doing her looking concerned photos and talking to refugees and bringing awareness to their plight. I’m apparently far more informed than some people but I won’t get mad at her Goodwill work because I can see how that can bring money and attention to stuff that really needs it.
@heine
I’m a bit confused. How is she suppose to look when someone is sharing their personal experience with her. I see her smiling with children and embracing people. But I guess having a concerned look when talking to someone is a big no.
Perhaps you could let us know exactly what expression she should have. I would be interested in reading it.
She is not the leader of a nation. Her job is not to solve the problems, and obviously that is not the job of any of the UN workers because yes the problems persist. Just like the problems we have in this country. her job is to bring awareness and to LEARN; so that when she speaks of this she will do so with some knowledge base.
This story is on a gossip blog. And it is on others as well. NOW if this was not Angelina or another celebrity it would not have been here.
If the coverage of her visit upsets you then you should talk to CB/Kaiser. they posted it here. NOT the people commenting on it.
@Flan – LOLOLOLOL! “Nor have I ever seen her worry about lonely sea turtles and anteaters with small tongues.” Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh! 😀 But now I’m thinking that I *do* want her to take up the plight of lonely sea turtles…
I have no comment other than that I saw the word ilk used on this thread!
Out of curiosity, can someone remind me what our American actress has done for her country (without Brad)or community? I forget.
Jolie cracks me up. Everything to do with her is about self-promotion. Let’s remember that just some years ago she was filmed sitting in a drug den (it’s on youtube) talking nonsense. Now she expects the public to treat her as a diplomat of sorts.
She’s completely uneducated and ignorant and is grossly unqualified to do anything substantial or constructive in those areas of the world that have caught her fancy. While she does donate a lot of money, she doesn’t actually understand what has to be done… you only have to see what happens when a serious journalist tries to draw her into a conversation on those subjects she’s so ‘passionate’ about… she’s only good for sentimental soundbites. Fortunately her American fans eat it right up.. and insist that were it not for Jolie, people wouldn’t even know Libya existed! Yes, maybe those individuals whose reading habits don’t extend beyond US Weekly,etc.
Jolie is not a serious contender on the international stage as far as humanitarian work is concerned.. it takes more than big paychecks to make a difference.
@Zee: It’s interesting you find Jolie to be “completely uneducated and ignorant” when the Council on Foreign Relations added her to their membership — and membership in the CFR is by invitation only.
Google their website sometime and check out their members. I’d hazard a guess that the least intelligent of their members is far more intelligent than you.
@zee the drug den video was taken in her early 20s not a couple of years ago more like 11 or 12. You know the last three American presidents have admitted drug use right? So why should an actress be held to a higher standard than the president of the US???
Sloppy commenting, Zee. If you’re going to accuse her of hanging out in a drug den at least get your time frame right. She’s a long way past her early twenties. Now let’s see what your credentials are for calling her uneducated and ignorant. You’ve got a Ph.D. in international relations, right? And you’ve traveled all over the world, right? And you’ve visited refugee camps where she’s been and seen the conditions for yourself, right?
I didn’t think so.
You can’t even make a comment without being trolled by other commenters (ie Flan and Cheyenne).
Why is it that there is no civil reponse? There has to be targeted sarcasm and general bitchiness, which is plain and simple bullying if you ask me.
To be frank, Cheyenne and Flan, your sarcasm and bullying isn’t going to change my view.
As for your brainwashed babble – because I’ve noticed that you exist to hate on commenters and be nasty – unfortunately celebrities – who aren’t the brightest [they never finish school ] – are chosen by these social ‘awareness’ groups because they distract the ‘mob’, so their use is to focus attention on an issue. It’s so obvious. What are you going to say next? Just because a council offers an exclusive invitation, it doesn’t mean that it is about her intellect, it’s about an ‘in-group’ and the myth of exclusivity. A standard social device. Basic social psychology 101.
I’d like to see what qualifications you have Cheyenne. A PhD in Angelina folklore?
petal: I don’t have her time, her money or her resources. Chances are, I’ll never have them. But I do my best with what I have. Complain all you want about me wondering why she’s in Libya but I’m still gonna wonder why she’s in Libya.
lisa: I have no issues with her concerned face. Her concerned face is appropriate.
You’re right, she’s not a leader of a nation and her job isn’t to solve problems. Why on earth then is she, in her own words, “meeting with officials from all sides”? Why does she think she can, in her own words, “help them to implement these new laws”?
What political clout does she have to do this? What international influence does she have to help implement laws in Libya?
Even Kaiser, who wrote this story, wondered why the UNHCR wasn’t behind her on this.
Lastly, I have no problems with this story being on Celebitchy. I neither wrote that nor did I insinuate as such.
The coverage does not upset me. Where did you read that?
@Ducky La Rue. That’s the cause I’m most pissed off about too, why can’t she tell us about their pain? 😉
We don’t know why she is there since she has not told us.
How on Earth can you judge what you don’t know?
She obviously has something in mind to do or say, so just WAIT and see.
The UNHCR tried to explain it as “IN A PERSONAL CAPACITY”. The key word being Personal as in “HER” business. She rolls that way sometimes.
So personally she can still get in these countries and have a look see. WOW, to the folks saying she is not important and the pat on the head nonsense.
This trip HAD to be long in the planning, since the men are escorting her and she has armed guards. They slide her out of Hungary and into Libya. That’s some stealth planning.
In due time we will find out why. Does not make her a saint, but it does make her wise. Her kids will always benefit from a wise mother. Brad will too.
Oh, the weapons mess is weak too, otherwise little comments would not be the only reminder. Or did you forget that no one seems to care about this non issue. Again it’s all wait and see.
Go Angie. Do you.
“her job is to bring awareness and to LEARN;” A few questions – Who is she bringing awareness to? The rebels? One rebel was with her and wearing a new t-shirt “I love Angelina Jolie”. Did she bring the t-shirts or did they make them in Libya? Do they make new t-shirts for movie stars while a war is going on? Does she support the rebels? Do we know who they are or their stand on where the country should go? What other country is supporting them? The US with weapons etc? China?
Bringing awareness is not enough. I am so tired of this game played by hollywood. George Clooney, etc. all bring awareness. But what they do changes nothing. It only costs someone a lot of money to fly them around. Angie being in Libya will change nothing. If her being there brings awareness to the rebels – then does she want people to give money to the rebels?
The other problem is that she goes somewhere frequently now. Since she goes without Brad (I am sure he has no interest in going)she does not get as much attention. To really bring the attentention they need to be together. Sad but true. Every time she goes she gets less and less press. No one really cares about her pictures with injured or sarving individuals. SHe is bringing very little awareness anymore.
I personally have no problem with her going to “bring awareness” and I think that she means well. But, her going from place to place helps no one Just like George Clooney making his visits makes no difference.
Oh for pity’s sake it wasn’t a “drug den.” It was a friend’s apartment in the Chelsea Hotel. The dramatics some people resort to in attacking Jolie are ridiculous.
I guess we can tell what kind of sheltered lives some people have lived who never lived through a time in their youth where drugs were in abundance at parties. Hell, many moons ago there was hardly a place or party I could go to that didn’t have on offer all sorts of goodies for the taking. I’m not going to mention names but these were parties by very respected and highly influential entities – people and “institutions.” We all live and learn. But few of us have it shoved in our face forever after. Give it up.
I agree with #94. Angie stop associating yourself with the UN and tell the truth that these rebels caused thousands of displaced people. I hope that is her read-between-the-lines message to the world.
so proud of angelina, i happen to admire brad also, he has a cool nature, he seems to support his partner in her endeavors, that is so, so important, more than anything, she could not do this with some one who don’t feel the same way, brad has a Hugh heart also, angelina is so caring, so is brad, they compliment each other.
As someone who went to an international school and befriended people whose parents were diplomats and UN personnels I can assure you there is nothing strange about what Angie is doing. She gets alot of slack for her children which I think is unfair because she actually spends a lot of time with them, what she goes off to another country to help out the disadvantage twice every month? alot of UN personnels often go for weeks on end to those places leaving their children behind. And you know what? They don’t mind, because they get to spend more time with them afterwards than your average 9-5 family.
As for the photos, it is only natural there will be photos, let’s not forget there are many newsagents stationed there because of the conflict and there are many photographers as well. You think that if they found our Angie was coming they won’t take photos? (and they will find out, all good journalists and photographers do)
Lastly I think what Angelina is doing is wonderful, helping the libyans transitioning into a country not under ghaddaffi. As for someone who said the rebels have caused the displacement of the people, well gaddafi has stolen more than a billion dollars from the Libyan government, has jailed over 10 000 people in underground jails, has one of the worse human rights abuses and torture, a secret police. All libyans I have spoke to hate him, and tbh all Arab regimes need to fall.
Why shouldn’t she go there in the first place ?
People always ask what’s the point of going there ? But what’s the point for her NOT going there ? Did she used your money to go there ? Nope. Her visit is not counterproductive to the cause of the refugees in the least, so why question its validity in the first place ?
You don’t question people going tanning in Mexico when they could do it in a salon at home or going shopping to Melrose Drive when they can ship the whole collection at home, don’t you ?
She is a 36 years old woman, she can go anywhere she wants even if it’s in a chaotic country that is still undergoing some political changes. After all, if her visa was issued in due time, if she had access to the people mentioned on the thread, then her government gave formal agreement, then the UN gave formal agreement, then the lybian government gave formal agreement, then everything on the ground was prepared and in place for her visit. Apparently they all thought her initiative was a good idea, ,if not they wouldn’t have gave her a visa, prepared her visit, tipped respectable agency that report international affairs like Reuter, ect.
I’ll take their expertise over some people over the internet who want to monitore how a 36 years old actress and UN goodwill ambassador with ten years of experience under her sleeves should spend her spare time, which (philantropic) activities she should do, in what way and in what form.
Go Angelina, keep on doing what you do, you do it just fine.
@#115
some years ago.. Try 15 years ago. Angie is almost 40 years old. Is she not allowed to mature? That’s why I admire her so much. She openly discussed her past as a teen and early 20’s..and moved on to become an incredible woman.
Pat, yes they can make T Shirts in Libya. Did you think all activities in the country, including something as simple as making a TShirt, ended?
Your little rant of how unpopular Jolie is seems so perverse in the face of reality. If she weren’t popular no one would report this visit. The fact they report it even when it’s a serious issue says a lot about the power of Jolie. Do you think if you repeat this alternate reality of yours and your fellow travelers enough times it will become true?
I kind of thought that if a country is in a major war making t-shirts with celebrities names on it would be the last thing on their mind. Obviously not. The rebels obviously have time on their hands.
I did not say that Jolie was “not popular”. I said that without Brad that there is not as much interest. The news reports on Geroge and Sean and Demi (when she went to Haiti) had stories. Jolie gets about the same interest now as the people above. Brad and Angie’s visit when they first got together following the earthquake had over 2,000 stories reported. Everyone knew about it. Her last visit hardly was reported on. Her impact is decreasing. That does not mean she is not popular. It just means that people are less interested in her “trips for awareness”. Especially if Brad is not with her. Yes some people know (especially those who frequent this site) however the vast majority have no clue that she went anywhere this week. Just the same as when George goes “to create awareness”. Like I said there is nothing wrong with either of them doing these things. And I think that they do it because they think they are helping. However I think that these trips are pointless. If you can tell me two things that will change after Jolies visit well then maybe there is some good. But no one on this board can do that. A lot of money that could feed a lot of people is used to fly these stars around and nothing changes.
@Heine :
Be disappointed as much as you like, but
please at least read my comment properly before you attack.
I never said that I didn’t read a newspaper or watch the news.
I said : “Jolie made me donate when I most likely wouldn’t have.
I also don’t ALWAYS watch the news, because it seems so negative lately with the European Economic crisis, wars and all other troubles in the world.
But she made me look and consider things in the world that I wouldn’t have otherwise.
She is doing something right, because I’m paying more attention. ”
Being kind and considerate is a good thing!
Wow, so much hate, so much criticism for someone who is trying to spend some of her time and resources doing good for the world.
I truly believe that ” women are their own worst enemies “.
We don’t need men for it.
We can rip each other to tiny pieces without a snipet of guilt.
Because of catty, jealous, petty and stupid behaviour!
Go girls!!!
Heine: Why on earth then is she, in her own words, “meeting with officials from all sides”?
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If those officials didn’t think it was worth their time to meet with her, they wouldn’t. Ever think of that?
And you can wonder all you want why she’s going to Libya, but alas, your curiosity will continue to go unsatisfied, since she doesn’t answer to you. She pays her own way and goes on her own dime, so what’s it to you?
Its a positive thing she is doing.Whatever her motivation,its still a good deed that she dosnt have to do.
Jolie seems to me more decent, compassionate and caring than most politicians in the world.
I wish her well for the good work she is doing!
Would it be great if some other well known people did something for other less fortunate instead of throwing a huge wedding for themselves -Kardashian?
Such a money and headline grabbing family!
Cheyenne: It’s also possible they want to meet with her so that they look like humanitarians by association, seeing as the rebels aren’t winning any humanitarian awards. Ever think of that?
You all can’t answer why she’s there other than to deflect by mentioning other people doing other things or by saying “well she doesn’t have to tell you; she doesn’t answer to you”.
Aside from raising awareness, she needs to not overestimate her influence and political clout. She’s still mentioned in news articles as an actress first.
I feel like she’s overstepping by mentioning that she’s meeting with officials and is going to help them implement new laws. She’s saying she can affect social change in Libya.
Does anyone think she really has the ability to do this? Can any American celebrity really affect social change in a foreign country? Do we really believe our celebrities are that influential with the international political community?
petal: Being kind and considerate is a great thing. It’s a shame that it took a celebrity to get you to pay more attention.
@Heine: I think Jolie herself over-inflates her importance. It’s a political hotbed in Libya right now and she thinks she’s going to influence their future??
Cheyenne is a nasty piece of work. She’s been taken to task several times because of her bullying but it doesn’t seem to sink in. I can only feel embarrassment for her.
@Heine :
It’s horrible that Jolie made me care a bit more about refugees that have nothing, not even a country.
Isn’t it the POINT that people pay more attention to a cause when well known people get involved?
Jolie and myself should be ashamed, you are so right! NOT!
@Heine: For whatever reason, you seem to resent all the attention she is getting. I can’t begin to imagine why. I mean, what’s it to you? She is trying to do something positive and all you see fit to do is snark on her to no discernible purpose. But hey, whatever floats your empty boat…
Angie made a humanitarian visit to let a group of people know they are not forgotten The people she visited and talked to enjoyed it and appreciated it. If that is the ONLY outcome then she did great.
I wonder how some of these people feel about the people that go to hospitals and nursing homes to visit the residences there. NO there presences does not change the circumstances but it does give them comfort. I guess giving comfort is not good enough.
Well at least she is not showing up for Hotel openings, birthday parties and such for millions of dollars. I’m sure if she was that kind of person the same bitter people would be applauding. I notice that they don’t visit the thread of the superficial. Just Angie.. because these negative comments are all because it is Angie. Let this have been anyone else then they would either not bother to post or be praising that person.
They have bee up their butts about this woman and that is the only reason. Because how could helping someone generate such nastiness
” I think that these trips are pointless. If you can tell me two things that will change after Jolies visit well then maybe there is some good. But no one on this board can do that”
Really? Because we at Celebitchy do not know, then it cannot be?
Oh, it can be.
But, please. You must stop stroking my ego this way. You’re making me blush.
Smuggled Libyan weapons flood into Egypt
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/smuggled-libyan-weapons-flood-into-egypt/2011/10/12/gIQA2YQufL_print.html
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IsIamists already rising to positions of prominence in new Libya
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/15/world/africa/in-libya-islamists-growing-sway-raises-questions.html?_r=2&hpw=&pagewanted=all
I’m very proud as a fan of miss Jolie. A great person and humanitarian.Still doing it for more than a decade is the real deal and she’s visited Misratah were I worked for almost 2 years but had to leave coz the war broke.
Way to go Angelina JOLIE!
Zee, if Angelina is “not a serious contender” in her UN work, then WHY did the UN give her an award recently? Huh? Answer THAT one if you’re so smart. She is lauded by people like Nelson Mandela. Are you saying YOU know more than *him*? Huh? This is a woman who IS so smart, that she graduated school a year ahead of her peers. She has written a book, written essays and OpEds for Quarterlys. This is a woman so respected in her field not by armchair critics driven by jealousy, but by her *peers* in the field, that she was elected *by her Diplomatic peers* to the Council on Foreign Relations. So, please explain to the readers if she is so unintelligent why her own peers in the field who know far more than you ever will, laud, honour and respect her.
No matter how you desperately *want* to believe she lacks intelligence and isn’t a serious contender, her PEERS say otherwise. You lying doesn’t change the fact that you are way out of depth on this issue and clearly are ignorant of Angelina’s professionalism, commitment and how high she is held by *those in the know*.
Heine,
Libya had Gaddafi, enough said. If that man whose obviously batshit crazy managed to run a country for 30 years, then why wouldn’t an american actress have some influence lol?
As for american actors in general, let’s not forget there have been transitions from holywood into politics. It is not at all strange.
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