Another day, another story about Chris Brown doing his best to piss all over the inexplicable second, maybe third chance his industry is giving him to make millions of dollars singing and dancing despite the fact that he’s a well-documented abusive douche. Only now Rihanna may be willingly going down with him, perhaps literally if we read too much into the lyrics of this new song they jointly released.
For several days I’ve been hearing rumors that Rihanna and Chris brown were doing a song together called “Birthday Cake,” to coincide with Rihanna’s birthday. I thought that they might be working on something in the studio, but that there was no chance in hell that industry execs would taint Rihanna by letting any of their work together get out. Sadly I was wrong. They put out “Birthday Cake” together in which they sing about eating cake as a stupid sex metaphor, and Rihanna also sang vocals for a remix of Chris’ “Turn Up The Music.” Here’s more on that “Birthday Cake” song. This is from MTV’s blog:
It was only a matter of time. For the past few weeks the world has been at a stand still with rumors swirling of one time lovebirds Rihanna and Chris Brown working with each other again. Just in time for her 24th birthday C Breezy and Rihanna made their reunion official releasing the remix to Ri’s “Birthday Cake” track.
On the Internz/The-Dream produced record, Breezy adds his melodies to the song crooning about his fantasies to blow the candles out on Rihannas cake.
“Girl I wanna f–k you right now. Been a long time I been missing your body” Brown sings on the remix. “Lemme, lemme turn the lights down. When I, when I go down it’s a private party.”
During the 2012 Grammy Awards weekend word began to spread that Rihanna and Brown were spotted at the same event with some reports suggesting the two were seen holding hands. A day later “Cake” producers Da Internz hinted Rihanna was getting ready to release a “big” remix with a special guest that would “shock the world.”
“We got the Rihanna ‘Birthday Cake’ coming out in a week,” a bespectacled Kosine told MTV News on the red carpet of the Pepsi-sponsored ASCAP Rhythm and Soul Brunch, held over the Grammy weekend.
“It’s gonna be crazy,” his production partner, Tuo, said shaking his head.
“And the feature on there is gonna shock the world,” Kosine chimed.
[From MTV]
This really turns my stomach. Maybe it’s the link between cake and sex and imagining Chris Brown’s scary O face. D-Listed explains the disgust better than I can. These two are “professionally” collaborating and they’re also tweeting to each other. Chris sent Rihanna a happy birthday message yesterday and she tweeted back “thanks.”
Meanwhile Chris is still writing asinine sh*t on Twitter and then deleting it. WWE wrestler CMPunk Tweeted that he wanted to “curb stomp” Brown, and then Brown tweeted back that the guy must be impotent. “@CMpunk needs more followers. He’s such a leader! Not to mention the roids hes on has made it utterly impossible for him pleasure a women.” Chris later deleted that and just replaced it with a snotty message about how he would have his assistant send the guy an autographed photo.
Is Rihanna going to see fallout from this? People are saying that she looks like she’s having issues, and she does look burnt out lately. I hope she’s ok and that she can walk away from this. It looks like she’s getting played by her abuser again, and it’s sad.
Rihanna is shown out in London yesterday for her birthday on 2-21-12. She’s also shown out the day before. She’s wearing the same shorts and garters combo that we saw Miley Cyrus sporting recently except Rihanna tucked her long flannel shirt into her shorts and it’s hanging out the bottom. Chris is shown at the beach on 2-17-12. Credit: FameFlynet and WENN
Ok i’m done with Rihanna, never liked her but now she’s begging for some more.
and to all the people in the industry out there, always wanting to make more money no matter what or who you put on a stage, shame on you, hopefully you’ll spend all the money made that way in medecines.
I used to like Rihanna.
Have no respect for her whatsoever now. She’s just trying so hard to please the worst of her fanbase.
The ones who think she should shut up about the abuse and cater to her man.
What a stupid piece of trash she turned out to be.
She’s not had a thought about anybody else but herSELF. She couldn’t care less about her fans. She’s a complete moron.
Yup! I just threw mi Riri’s cd’s in the trash. I wish I hadn’t bought them in the first place. I used to really like her but she’s worked overtime on screwing up her image, from putting up with Brown to wearing garters in publc. I hope you grow up Riri, one of these days and that you learn to love and respect yourself.
First of all, do people actually still buy CDs ??? LOL. Second- unless you bought them on layaway, she has already profited from your purchases – I hope you recycled. I like that people are so enraged by this case of domestic violence that they are publicly condemning the VICTIM. “What a stupid bitch” Way to stand up for a good cause y’all. I’m enjoying watching the realization that it’s actually all of you who got played. LMFAO today.
The only one who got played is Rihanna. The man who beat her till she bled from her ears and passed out got her on his song basically announcing her as someone to bend over. Chris really can’t suffer anymore damage but Rihanna from her album sales to endorsement deals to public opinion will suffer. She has been made a victim twice.
I think the person will survive the loss of a few dollars compared to Riri’s lost millions.
Honestly, she is just as revolting at this point as he is. She is standing up in front of the pop world and showing the young impressionable youth of that world that it is OK to be an abuser (“Chris Brown can beat me anytime”) because the victim will “forgive” you, record a trashy song with you, and happily flaunt a relationship with you. All that of course came after the nation was outraged for her. It is sickening and I don’t have to listen to her music anymore if I don’t want to, and I won’t.
Ew.
I honestly believe too the more you say no to Rihanna the more she will do something just to spite everyone. At least that’s how this situation rubs me.
A stupid ploy at showing people just how different and bad ass she is. She’s unpredictable y’all.
In the end it does come across as a totally cheap ploy at gaining publicity. Boo on her.
Yes, I agree w/you. This is pretty much the way I feel about Rihanna.
The way Chris B. has been running his mouth on Twitter, it just confirms what trash he is. Unfortunately, due to his performances @ The Grammy’s & him winning one, he obviously feels emboldened. He hasn’t learned to be humble in the business he’s in, therefore we can look forward to more inappropriate behavior from him….but on a more positive note, we can also look forward to seeing him “mess up” yet again, because he obviously thinks he’s invincible.
You guys should see what is going on Twitter. It churns the stomach.
Some are flat out stating that the fact that Rihanna is back with Chris, proves that he is innocent, and had never beaten her up…
*Deep breath*
Rihanna is an idiot. Rihanna is a delusional self-absorbed idiot. But no matter what, she does NOT DESERVE TO BE BEATEN UP AGAIN. If CB would to lay a finger on her, this would simply mean that the judicial system failed to rehabilitate him, which clearly indicates that they failed to punish him accordingly.
Why do women of all ages, of all social backgrounds go back to their abusers? Why being abused so often equals being paid unwavering attention. Why abuse does equal unequivocal passion. Most of us women have slept with a d-ckhead, once in our lives. But most of us know where to draw the line.
I have been dickmatized once. I was hooked, he was under my skin, I could not get enough of him. He was 12 years older. And he got abusive. Verbally. But the moment he told me over the phone that if I was right in front of him, he would be smacking my mouth, for having such a big mouth, that was it.
Made it quite clear that if he ever dares, that the cops would be on his ass. Made it clear that if ever calls, I would be calling right back and abusing the shit out of him. That if I ever see him again, I will be pointing at him on the street, in front of everyone, and calling him a woman beater.
He never called again.
You must have the strength. You must love you first, and foremost.
Well said Maguita.
I think I also was dickmatized. I told my ex that the police would be on him in a minute if he followed through on his violent threats. That slowed his role but I shudder to think what would have happened if didn’t believed that I deserved better than that. I have often wondered how to get back at him if I ever saw or heard from him again. Thanks for the ideas.
Brigitte, I am sorry for your bad experience, and what I’m understanding, if correctly (?), is that you are still living in fear.
Understanding that it is exactly what a woman beater wants you to do, living in fear, is how he keeps his hold on you. Look, you should stop thinking of him, because in all honesty, there is a lot of truth of “you see it in your mind, you’ll hold it in your hand”. So the more you give him power over your thought process, the likely he’ll materialize back into your life.
And if ever, well, hold your head up high, look him in the eye, smile, wave a police car over, and point at him.
Watch him run away.
I get your fear. I’ve been stalked. I’ve felt that knot in my stomach, that glues me to the floor. That chokes the breath out of me. And like wolves. They know when their prey is getting weak. So find a way to snap out of it. And find logical, and legal ways, to keep him away, and feel safe again.
Wish you strength chica! Let’s hope Rihanna snaps out of it too. Although, not holding my breath for her to do so before another violent episode, sadly.
After these songs, I pretty much think her management will be announcing that they no longer represent her. She is no giving them much of a choice.
Oh, honey. There are so many layers to abuse.
It starts insidiously, sneakily, and hardly noticeable. Little insults; slight offences; playing on vulnerabilities and insecurities.
Then the physical abuse starts. Once you’ve been effectively isolated from family and friends, the physical abuse flows freely.
And being “dickmatised” has nothing to do with it. SURVIVAL does.
Trust me.
I’m so tired of hearing about Chris Brown. There are two camps regarding his past behavior and I feel like we just keep going in circles arguing the same old points. At the end of the day, who cares? Kids shouldn’t have pop stars for role models. That what parents, heroes in books, and clergy are for. I don’t care what Rhianna or Chris does in their personal life. I don’t even like their music all that much. Can we move on from this already? Rhianna is just a young woman like millions of others. They don’t always make the best decisions. Having fame and money doesn’t all of a sudden make you wise. Why should we expect them to be? Rhianna and her life perspective will be a lot more interesting 20 years from now.
Who cares? I do. It bothers me.
Your absolutely correct, kids shouldn’t have pop stars for role models. Having said that, it is very naive not to realize that at a certain age your parents don’t to pick who your role models are any longer. Children/teenagers are falling right in line with the rest of the world and looking up to those in the spotlight. After all, Hollywood spends an awful lot of money making sure that they appear as role models.
She is not a young woman. That title is reserved for those just barely of legal age. At her age I was married and had bought my first house. I would have been highly insulted had you attributed that same title to me as I had worked very hard to be seen and treated as an adult.
Having fame and money does not insure great choices, your right. However it does come with a laundry list of handlers and the finances to take care of yourself without relying on others. At 24, you are responsible for the choices you make, and if you are in front of millions of people asking them to buy your records then you should care how you look to them. The average person is not asking millions of people to support their lifestyle, they do it all on their own.
Bluebear, the problem today with kids having role models, is that their Disney “role models” cannot stay publicly clean, because of the internet.
Kids today are very much aware that their little girly Disney darling is snorting coke and having sex with a 40 year-old-on-set Director. Their little boy Disney cutie is having sex with a hot industry insider, who lets him drive his Ferrari around. That Hannah Montana had already a live-in bf at 16…
They have no role models, or rather, what they perceive as role models, are actually every parent’s nightmare!
And please, don’t get me started on the fact that when kids come back home from school, they are watching Jerry Springer, and Maury.
Do you now understand why young girls are asking CB to beat them, and that it is ok for Rihanna to go back to her abuser?
Maguita, I couldn’t have said it better myself.
Thanks Bluebear!
AND IT JUST GOT REALLY BAD for Chris Brown!
He was bad mouthing WWE champ CM Punk, CB told the world that CM Punk uses steroids, and needs our affection for his ED. And Punk just basically released a video telling Chris:
“Chris and I come from different worlds. I don’t have an assistant. I don’t have a body guard. I don’t have a manager or a PR person telling me to delete tweets like Chris does, and I don’t hit women. Period.”
“Chris has made the wrong accusations to the wrong person because I can defend myself.”
He also challenges Brown to a no-holds barred fight for charity
“I will choke you out and I will make you feel as weak and as powerless and scared and alone as any woman who has the misfortune of knowing a sad cowardly little boy such as yourself.”
I will pay with everything I have to watch this go down.
Team Punk!
She is an idiot, and everyone who’s too busy making money off her to get her some much needed therapy should be ashamed of themselves. Like I’ve said before, this chick has the resources to clean up her act, and she isn’t interested in doing it, no sympathy for her. She’s basically encouraging women everywhere to keep up a relationship with their abuser.
THIS!
I hope this ruins both of their careers. She is an idiot.
Ditto!! I’m sick of the whole story. I think the only reason she broke up with him in the first place was that she was scared it was going to hurt her career. Neither one of them can sing anyway without the help of a computer.
“Neither one of them can sing anyway without the help of a computer.”
YESSS!!!
The public needs to RAISE ITS STANDARDS!
The fact that theses 2 losers are considered “stars” is a TRAVESTY. (Also, an embarrassment to showbiz and humanity.)
Amen Sister!!! Maybe they will go away together into the sunset now. Get lost already. Go away and make each other sick. Go on, SCAT!!
Sadly, I think this will give CB a career boost.
However, I’m hoping she’ll suffer from poor album sales as a result of this stunt. Maybe if he hits her in the wallet, she’ll be less forgiving then when he hit her in her face 😔
Cosign. Let the idiots crash and burn together.
Second the motion.
I don’t get this. Jay-Z is Rihannas boss and he hates Chris Brown for what he did to his pupil and still this track and the collaboration are happening?
He’s not protecting her, not as an employee, as a person or as an investment. Bluntly speaking: if she gets beat up again and is out of the running for months it’ll cost him shitloads of cash. We all know Jay cares about money, that’s why I phrased it this way. Personally I hope no one ever gets hurt again by CB ever again. But I’m tired of posting about hope in these threads :/
Everyone on her team was against it. And his maybe also. So they did it anyway and released it for free since their labels and management wouldn’t do it.
thanks for explaining.
The disobedience of Rihanna and CB (altho I don’t expect any better from him, he’s a pusher who always wants his way) could really get them into trouble. They come of as unreliable.
WOW!!!! That makes it even WORSE!!
Actually, Jay-Z has been holding out on renewing his management contract with Rihanna for a while now.
He new that she had been seeing CB secretly for a while, and he is absolutely against it.
You see, if TMZ had not published Rihanna’s beaten up face, she was really going back to Chris. But because of the picture being published, and the world looking at her beaten up face, reading the details of how Chris Brown had beaten repeatedly her face with his closed fists, had bitten her repeatedly, had scratched her, broke her rib, Rihanna had no choice but to publicly dump Chris Brown. Even is she had just spent 3 days with him in Miami (he was pictured having fun on his Seadoo, she wasn’t. She was hiding her black and blue face). Their getting back together has been a long time coming. But like I’ve stated a few comments down, you cannot put all the blame on her.
You need to put the blame on the judicial system for, yet again, not properly rehabilitating, nor properly punishing, an abuser of women.
Why should Jay-z care?
He (and his wife) have trademarked their baby’s name and they’ll earn millions via baby clothes and toys and whatnot.
woops I messed up replying earlier, so I’ll copy my post
he refused to give CB an applause at that award show, so I assume that means he he cares
@Sisi, call me a pessimist but that could’ve all been for show.. you never know with celebs what their true intentions are…regardless, rihanna is a grown woman she should know better. frankly, she is implying that she doesn’t deserve any better, and maybe she really doesn’t? sad…
Rihanna’s label Def Jam/Roc Nation have reportedly taken a stand against the star.By refusing to put ‘Cake’ on Itunes.
https://twitter.com/#!/HalfMartian/status/171777068621766656
that makes me feel a bit better
Not sure if her label will continue to “take a stand against” her …
2 No-talents for the price of 1. What a bargain!
What a bad career move. The only winner here is him. If Rhianna takes him back and forgives him then in his tiny brain, we should too. Then in his non existent brain matter he is vindicated. I almost wonder if this is about
a career move and not about his feelings for her. Abusers don’t love, they own and possess. Love
doesn’t come in a fist package slammed in your face. So I highly doubt it’s about love on his side.
I can’t support her. I feel sad for her lack of self
worth but she is making a a very bad decision here. It will end badly and painfully.
So true. Already on Twitter some silly girls are stating that if Rihanna had forgiven Chris, it means that she wasn’t beaten up that badly, and we should forgive him too.
Chris had tweeted a few days ago, after his Grammy debacle: Music is FREEDOM, to which someone replied “Assault is FELONY”.
Brilliant, right? of course, it all got deleted! Chris is a WIMP.
Yes, Chris Brown is so obviously an insecure wuss.
That’s why he uses his fists and temper to express his emotions.
If he were strong and/or mature and if he had healthy self-esteem, he would NOT throw tantrums or beat people. He’s all ego. He is a typical bully, which is not the least bit cool or remarkable.
Chris Brown and Rihanna each need mental health care. They are textbook examples of unhealthy people.
They should do a cover version of Muse’s Stockholm Syndrome.
Pahahahaha YES!!!
The new Whitney and Bobby, without the talent.
All joking aside, its sad that she’s going back there. After taking a stand and going to court, which was absolutely the right thing to do, now she’s letting herself down.
I hope she’s safe.
we all knew this was coming. I’m not surprised nor am I amused. and @meg you stfu you sound like an idiot. we didn’t break them up. they broke up cuz he fucked up her face with his fists you stupid bird. and you saying you condone violence makes you ignorant. IN MY OWN OPINION.
Whoa, did someone actually write that? It must be gone by now, because I didn’t see anything written by any ‘meg’. That’s messed up. Totally agree with you saying it was only a matter of time. I don’t know how to explain it, but something always gave me the signal that they would be doing this dance again, in some form. So here we are. And I’m profoundly out of touch because I didn’t even know that they were dating, nor had I heard one of his songs until that horrible attack those years ago. Still haven’t heard one of his songs before, not looking to break the silence streak. Sad.
Career suicide.
Rihanna will face far more scorn than him. This isn’t a simple duet or publicly discussing you ‘forgiving him’ in an interview.
This is getting the guy who choked you till yu passed out on a sexual song. Disgusting. I imagine her career will take a very real hit from this, too many groups and media outlets began to discuss abuse and violence agInst women as a result of what happened to her. The 20/20 interview she did where she made all those claims…I’m beyond repulsed.
This seems like proof of a very warped mental state for her. …I just can’t understand the seeming desperation for her to need to publicly absolve brown of this. Oh well, I feel bad for her but I can not support this continuation of abuse. I will not be supporting her in any manner in the future.
Forget these idiots.
Agreed!
So, is this point where we stop looking at Rhianna as a victim and start looking at her as a participant? I hope so! No one ever EVER deserves to be hit! Just as no one should ever EVER hit anyone! It’s CLEARLY time to begin looking at this situation as a whole and stop compartmentalising everyone and their roles in this situation. Domestic violence is a complex issue and to call Rhianna a victim of anybody but herself is a Lie, and a hinderence to people trying to save themselves from similar situations.
Let’s just all pray they never have any kids!
A-freakin-MEN!
Amen!
I disagree. The cycle of abuse is extremely hard to break. She is the victim and she needs intense therapy. Yes she has resources, but she is clearly not utilizing them. Remember, she grew up watching abuse first hand. I think she is rebelling in her own way. The media made her into this anti domestic abuse persona…a position that she never wanted.
I agree Rose80 – Rhianna did not sign up to be the face of domestic violence, which the media has forced her to be. It’s interesting how championed she was in her early interviews after the incident but finding her own resolution and decisions on how to heal and move on has ended up in scorn. Her recent tweets and these songs are her sending a strong statement to the world and I don’t think it was meant to be very subtle.
I agree with Rose.
@Whatev, as women, we should stick by Rihanna’s side, even if we don’t agree with her behavior.
And please turn your attention on the legal system. If Chris Brown lays a finger again on her, or any other woman for that matter, the legal system would have failed yet another woman. The legal system would have failed to properly punish an abusive d-ck. The legal system would have, again, failed to rehabilitate an abusive a-hole. Even if they had the chance to rehabilitate him quite young, at 20 years old.
What a shame! Such a wasted effort to keep you from Chris. I hope u dont sign your death warrant by going back to him, riri i always root for you to get your shit together but not anymore. Its like someone going back to his/her puke……. yuck!
True. I hope she is not signing her death warrant. Chris is truly a spoiled, out of control, bully loser and she seems to feel she is the only one out there who is enough of a woman to control her man! She must not watch Forensic Files and see stories of men and women who were also “in love” at one time, who end up butchering one another or the wife suddenly disappears forever one day thanks to a psycho significant other.
She is like the “edgy” Michelle Dugar.
I feel bad for laughing, but I did 😔
Ahahahahahah! I don’t feel bad at all!
Brilliant satirical link. I like it!
Lol! Was thinking the same thing!
For fk’s sake it’s just a song a SONG and who the hell says they are back together last time I remember they are not. Just because they are doing a song doesn’t mean they are back together. So what if some of y’all are done with Rihanna do u think she freaking cares what you all think? Seriously who the hell are you to her NOBODY’S. If they want to record a song together then let them record a song together it’s there business and Rihanna is allowed to be friends with Chris Brown and forgives him if she freaking wants too again it’s there lives at the end of the day your comments or hatred or saying your done with these two young kids it doesn’t matter there are still living there lives and they still have people who love them. I am not defending Chris Brown either what he did was totally wrong and it is wrong to beat up a woman and secondly he does not have to ask for your forgiveness you don’t matter am just saying. I am not a big fan of Rihanna and what happened to her was really bad but I do love the remix of Birthday Cake. Either way this ain’t going to ruin Rihanna’s career.
You’re right, it doesn’t matter to them how we feel and don’t owe us anything. But I think it does matter to all the young girls out there that look up to Rihanna and idolize her. What is the message she’s sending to them? It’s ok to get beaten so badly that your teeth get knocked out and your eyes don’t open and then to forgive the person who nearly killed you. No excuse me, forgiveness is ok, it’s more the fact that she forgets everything he did to her that night and let’s him back into her life. That is basically acceptance of abuse. Tolerance of the abuse. It’s sending a piss poor message to those young girls that think she’s something special. This is my opinion of course.
I disagree with the “don’t owe us anything part”. Someone has to buy those albuns and finance their contracts. As long as the audience is the one doind so, they do owe a lot of us all they have. Too good I never bothered to do none. Still, they’re not there despite everyone. They’re there because of a lot of people, and as long and these people are excusing and aplauding their stupidity, they’ll keep on doing their sh*t just tlike this.
As for the rest, I’m with you all the way.
True, but I guess it’s our responsiblity as consumers now, to not buy their crap. I am hugely turned off from the both of them after this.
I am MORE than happy being a “NOBODY’S”. Especially if this level of intelligence is something to gauge (rock bottom). Go back to school and lern sumthin.
The world is messed up when people expect stars to bring up their kids. Role models should be one’s parents, teachers and good relations and friends.
@anonymous, despite your vehement denial, you’re obviously a Chris Brown fan. I can tell by your superior command of the English language.
Lol! I was wondering if it was Chris B himself, funny.
I liked her in the beginning, and felt terrible for her after CB. However, there is no excuse, on the planet, for her actively associating with him. No children, no divorce, nothing, nothing…nothing. She can’t possibly be that insecure and delusional (can she?!), to think that he has something to offer that about a million other real men could do better for her. Terrible example. And, even if her ‘boss’, Jay Z is on ‘her side’, alot of good that will do for her future considering who ‘his’ boss is….
haha this! anonymous probably hurt his case more than it helped
She’s not following the victim script & it really makes us mad.
for me, it isnt that shes not playing the perfect little victim. its her awful taste in men.
if this is the man she loves, then god, that doesnt say much about her character.
done singing along to her songs. its too bad cause i like em.
add that to madonna, lady gaga, katy perry, nicky minaj… theres not much left to listen to on the radio.
Yep, you got that right, “not much to listen to on the radio”! Along with my ballot, I vote with my money, and these so called ‘artists’ do not receive any of my cash.
It seems she is following the *perpetual* victim script perfectly. That’s what is making us mad.
It seems she is following the perpetual victim script perfectly. That’s what is making us mad.
Countdown to the implosion/explosion in 3…2…1…! Kaboom!!!
God I hope so!! They are both disgusting!
“Girl I wanna f–k you right now. Been a long time I been missing your body” Brown sings on the remix. “Lemme, lemme turn the lights down. When I, when I go down it’s a private party.”
My, what intelligent, insightful lyrics. So thoughtful, I wonder if it took hours to come up with, or if it was off-the-cuff because he is just that talented.
I can really see where people like this guy. He’s completely respectable, kind, and a master lyricist.
/sarcasm/
this is insane. they are a disaster that already happened and is wanting to happen again. what is wrong with them? Is sex the draw? Chris must be great then. but really Riri….
her clip for “We found Love” is all kinds of ‘weird”… 🙁
i used looooooveeee her! tot she was badass… still do… but now it’s more of ‘badfoolery’…
I think sex has to be the draw. What else could it be? His personality (?!), and his looks are a 7 at best, imo. And that is what blows my mind the most, because I can not for the life of me believe he is all that “great”. First of all, he is a narcisist. Second, he is still very young, probably had ALOT of strange (and possibly drugged at times). Those things don’t normally add up to “great” and experienced in my book. I don’t get the audience he attracts, at all. I used to like Rhianna, but after this ridiculous stunt, I consider her an unteachable idiot, bent on believing the dark side is good.
he refused to give CB an applause at that award show, so I assume that means he he cares
She either doesn’t know or doesn’t care because she’s too messed up right now on drugs, IMO.
This is all a PR stunt and we are talking about it which is what they want. If beating her didn’t ruin his career, singing with him isn’t going to ruin hers. I have no respect for either one of them.
What did cake ever do to them that they have debased a sugary, chocolatey symbol of goodness and made it ugly? I may need time away from baked goods to get over this!
Amen 🙁
These two, both, clearly have so many mental issues that were never dealt with from that night. Rihanna seems to be addicted to being thisclose to abuse.
Uhhhhh….nice “song”. It makes me sad that so many people buy and listen to this manufactured garbage when there are so many artists out there making real music and struggling to get it out there. These two are crass and trashy. Yuck.
oh cmon you mean you don’t like dull monotone vocals and autotuned rap?
And we’re still not going to talk about Fassbender beating up his girlfriend twice…don’t worry, I’ll wait.
Whoa. Details?
Actually, the woman had withdrawn her complaint. And that same woman was his date, months after the fact, to all the after Golden Globe parties. They were photographed kissing and hugging.
I was all ready to hate on Fassbender, but I did my search first before judging.
HA! Don’t hold your breath, Omar. When it comes to celebs beating on women, unless they are talking about Chris Brown….. ……..*crickets*…….I think we all know why, but I won’t start that debate again.
word.
Omar it’s because we still don’t have any proof(no pictures,no witness).I think truhtella posted the link on the last FASSY thread.But i don’t want to believe it.
It’s not being discussed because that allegation was proven to be baseless and was subsequently withdrawn by the woman in question. Nor has any further allegations of abuse been put forward by any other woman in his past. Given Fassbender’s rise in fame, don’t you think if there was a history of abuse in his past we would be hearing about it?
Not every allegation has it’s basis in fact people!
The allegation was not “proven to be baseless” (i.e. it never went to trial, she never stated her claims were false, and no one has offered evidence that contradicts her version of events).
She asked the court to drop her petition for a restraining order & gave no reason why. The petition was dropped. Neither of them has said anything about it since. Neither of them has offered evidence proving or disproving her claim.
That’s all we know. Anyone who claims to know for sure that he is guilty or innocent is full of it.
You’re right ‘proven to be baseless’ is a wrong choice of words to use. You’re also right that I don’t really know if he’s guilty or innocent. What I do know is that it’s reported that the ex-girlfriend had previously falsely accused another ex of trying to kill her and that she did indeed withdraw her petition for a restraining order. An order that was petitioned for almost a year after the alleged abuse.
I think we can safely agree however, that with Chris & Rhianna we have plenty of evidence to support that it happened. The police report, that photograph of her injuries, his admission in court etc.
Fassbender on the only hand was only ever alleged to have beaten his girlfriend. I choose to believe he is innocent until he is proven to be an abuser. (I hope there never is as it would mean that another person had to suffer) And if he is, he will deserve the same amount of scorn and antipathy that I have for Chris Brown.
She has accused another boyfriend of assaulting her. Again, there is no evidence for stating that she falsely accused that person – she did not admit to doing so, no charges were filed against her for filing a false report, no evidence has come to light disproving her claims.
Sorry to be pedantic, but I am seriously aggravated by the way fans of famous men will subtly or blatantly smear women who accuse them of abuse. I understand wanting to defend someone you’re a fan of, but spreading rumors about his accuser, implying she’s crazy or a gold digger, etc. are classic methods of discrediting women who come forward with accusations against successful men (I don’t mean you are intentionally doing this – I assume you’re just repeating something you heard)
I think Fassbender’s a great actor & I hope he’s innocent (and I hope this woman is not one of those self-destructive people who repeatedly enters into abusive relationships), but I don’t know him any more than I know her.
It’s easy to for anti-Fassbender people to interpret some aspects of his behavior as incriminating him, just as it’s easy for Fassbender fans to interpret his ex-girlfriend’s behavior as suspicious. But that’s just confirmation bias, and it doesn’t amount to much at the end of the day.
Frankly, this makes it look like all of the domestic violence press she’s gotten over the last few years was just for publicity to sell albums and it’s disgusting. I’ve known women who were beaten by their boyfriends-they all wanted help, but none of them wanted to be the center of attention.
Sadly, this is probably not the end of either of their careers considering the recording industry saw fit to give him a Grammy and the legion of idiot teenage girls who want him to beat them up will now flock to her side as well.
Is she smoking too much weed? Girlfriend is nuts.
Weed does not make anybody as delusional as these two wastes of air. Never listened to em, damn sure never will.
I cant stand either of them. if this kills her career enough that I dont have to listen to her annoying voice on every other song on the radio than Im all for it.
See, I think people are looking for reasons to excuse her from the fact that she got beaten up to nearly death and, after some time, decided to go back to her agressor. Here there are, many commenters saying how bad CB is (and I more than agree) and how bad it would be for Rihanna to get anywhere close to him (also agree). Thing is: she’s a 24 years old woman, preaching independence and some sort of strong attitude for women around the world; not a child anymore. So, lets keep our hatred – or whatever is the bad feeling one has against – on CB on the fact he’s simply a douchebag, not because he’s hurting an adult woman in complete control of her actions, ’cause, let’s agree, Rihanna doesn’t give a damn to the fact he almost killed her.
If she wants it again, let her have her feast. Based on his behavior (which hasn’t changed if only for worst), it will happen again.
http://okayla.tumblr.com/post/17981890691/sad-day
This person says it all.
True, very well put.
It’s sad that Rhianna’s career will suffer more than his (probably). People will blame her for giving into the cycle of domestic violence while he will continue to remain unscathed. I continue to be sad for her, not angry. I can’t remember if it was CB or Kaiser who recently wrote that Rhianna shouldn’t have to be the poster child for domestic violence. I agree.
Those of you who keep yelling that Rihanna “has resources”, so it is inexcusable that she may reconcile with Chris Brown:
You do realize that in the U.S., most victims of domestic violence are not financially dependent on their abusers, right? That the reasons people get caught up in abusive relationships are a bit more complicated than how much $$$ they have in the bank?
Also, you know that, on average, dv victims reconcile with their abusers 4-5 times before they leave for good, right?
At the very least, I hope that if you ever meet a woman who is going through something like this in real life (and believe me, you have, even if you didn’t know it), you will refrain from calling them “disgusting trash” if they aren’t able to get out of their situation as quickly as you might like.
^THANK YOU!
I’m so saddened by everyone calling her trash. The psychological damage that victims of domestic abuse go through are often long-term. It’s the damage you can’t see. Both she and CB grew up around domestic abuse and that does a number on your psyche. It’s a vicious self-perpetuating cycle that will take years of therapy to overcome. If she ever does get the help she needs. Rihanna has nothing but my empathy.
LOVE this. I’ve read the average return to abuser is even higher – like 8x. Regardless, once is too high a number.
Very, very well said D.!
Do not forget the leniency of the judicial system, who continually fails to protect women, and who constantly fails to rehabilitate and punish adequately abusers.
Amen!!
It is about time these celebrities stop thinking they can do whatever they want w/o any consequences. Think about the message she is sending to her young fans. Mainly young girls. She is letting her abuser objectify her in a damn song. Let your voices be heard. Write to these magazines, shows and her endorsements to let them know you don’t won’t to see her face on anything. She is so arrogant and immature. And, she is pretty much sending an FU to anybody that was stupid enough to support her. Maybe this will get rid of the both of them.
Well said. I’m glad I’m not the only one who thinks it is completely inappropriate.
After all they have been through the ‘song’ they choose to put out is about sex…??!!!
What a missed chance to do something more.
But no, all he wants from her is sex. He’s missed ‘her body’ for so long.
And she is just as happy to be an object to f**k and beat and f**k again, depending what HE wants.
I’m not a fan of either, so if really makes no difference to me, but I have 2 daughters growing up in a world where women are objectified, not only by men, but by themselves.
I love how all the Chris Brown fans think they’ve “won” because Rihanna and Chris are back together. He is still a poor excuse for a human and she is one of the millions of victims who finds a way back to their abusers. Rihanna is not the one who makes the decision if CB is a good or bad person (hint: he’s a bad person).
It actually makes me hate CB more. Sadly, it looks to me like they are approaching Whitney/Bobby territory. Very sad…
I think Robyn, got to the point where she no longer cares about the public opinion. Obviously she no longer cares about her life and safety either. But these are two adults, let them eat cake! But I will take no part in going back to your abuser.
did he say i wanna f–k you… blush lol
Yes, how bloody original and intelligent 🙄
21 seconds in the song and I was out. Utter crap.
I feel as every day, they’re getting closer and closer to do The Announcement. Preparing the public for the inevitable.
What in the heck is she wearing in those last pictures????? Outfit is hideous.
i dont care what anyone says, complain all you like but chris was definitely a beneficial add-on to birthday cake, which originally was just an interlude on the talk that talk album
the song will mostly like top the charts if they release it as an official single.
the song is f**king awesome
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People really need to stop talking about her like she is a victim-nobody is forcing her to be with Chris Brown at this point. I get it, I worry about her too, but come on, nobody is putting a gun to her head, she knows what she is doing and as somebody pointed out in the comments, she has more than enough money to go to therapy and try to work through her problems. What annoys me is, that she could have chosen anybody to be a part of the remix of her song (which sucks really bad btw), from Ne-yo to Drake, but no, she chose Chris, because she knew it would gather publicity and we would be talking about it. I guess I am just bothered by the fact that she willingly participates in the exploitation of the abuse she suffered a few years ago. I hoped she would be above all that.
This is crazy. Listen, we all understand the psychology behind the cycle of violence but it’s too bad Rihanna is weak enough to go back to this jerk considering her resources and exposure. She could be setting a great example for women stuck in that cycle of domestic violence, clearly- she thinks she’s way more cool than she is. She looks stupid.
She needs to hang up the tough girl act as of right now. No woman with an ounce of self respect would do a duet with the man who beat the hell out of her. She’s dumber than I thought and her folks obviously only care about how much money she brings in.
All that’s left to make this the perfect picture is for her to get knocked up. I’ll start the betting pool on the baby birthday at 11/01/2012.
I’ll take that bet, and raise you a maury style paternity suit.
They are just that classy.
… and a little Fantasia Barrino-style drama, taking a couple of Tylenol and tweeting “goodbye, cruel world, I’m upstairs dying now”, … more babies, and … ghetto.
LOL!!!
I think people are angry towards her in this because they felt so bad for her suffering and proud of her for getting out. Now they feel played and frustrated. It is extremely frustrating to watch a friend go back to bad relationship even when it’s beyond obvious that the situation is toxic.
I had a close friend who kept taking back a serial cheater even after he gave her an STD.
Which meant he cared so little that he wouldn’t even take her life into consideration while he slept around.
Back she went. Finally I stopped accepting her 3 AM tearful phone calls about him. It was exhausting emotionally. It took her years to recover from that relationship and I was supportive of her healing. But I couldn’t watch or be part of her dysfunction.
I think some of the public feels that way. They don’t want any part of this. It’s like watching a junkie plunge a needle into their arm on their way home from rehab.
Good for your healthy attitude and not enabling her, Cerulean. You are very wise. Battered women are a breed unto themselves. Some want to stay stuck because it’s all they know. And some just like taking a dare for a cheap thrill, as in the instant case.
Few actually physically cannot get away, being locked up like Elizabeth Smart, and those I feel the worst for.
ITA!! its hard to watch.. you want to see her move on especially since she’s already broken up with him. I’ve seen a friend go through the same thing as well. You want to be supportive but when does that turn into enabling?
Thanks.
It was hard to do because she is such a fabulous person who has such a sparkling personality. She started having a haunted sad look in her eyes and lost too much weight. She started doing crazy things. She paid a high price for that STD. She lost her dream of having children.
I think being a true friend is not helping someone hurt themselves but being there to help pick up the pieces.
Been there, Cerulean. Unfortunately, my friend married her fool, and we were young, too. She did it in secret so none of her friends or parents would know and had a girl with whom she’d been hanging out at SUMMER SCHOOL act as witness. I didn’t really have any contact with her until after she left. Sadly, he got to stay in the country (Ohhhhhhh…, yes we brought it up). Luckily, that’s ancient history, now.
Their relationship is between them. If she forgives him, fine. But to hook up with him for collaboration with such disgusting lyrics considering what he did to her is tacky and disturbing. It puts neither of them in a good light. Some different lyrics by them would have been stomached better by many, probably, something with kindness, regret, anything but the garbage they put down. The woman he beat severely he misses f’cking. Ah, how sweet. It warms the heart, such emotional lyrics. No wonder Rhianna couldn’t wait to put them on her song. Classy, Rhianna.
She’s no victim right now. She is putting trashy lyrics by him about her on her song. It says a lot about her.
I totally agree – R is condoning violence and making a stance that it’s perfectly okay to kill your girlfriend. Thanks for setting us all back a couple hundred years, people.
i don’t care what anyone says, complain all you like but chris was definitely a beneficial add-on to birthday cake, which originally was just an interlude on the talk that talk album. the song will mostly like top the charts if they release it as an official single.
the song is awesome and they stand to make a killing because of the publicity. at this point they don’t have to promote the song because the media outlets will use it as a way to get on their soapboxes and preach about what negative aspects they think it will have on the rest of the world
its just music people, lighten up.
there are plenty of hollywood men that have been convicted of domestic abuse and haven’t suffered any negative backlash. Prime example: Charlie Sheen. People are just on Chris Brown because of his skin color.
Sheen is seen as a douche too as far as I can tell. There are some older white guys who got away with it more than Chris Brown, but Sheen isn’t a good example.
Daisy — you are basically proclaiming with that that you’re just as stupid and intentionally obtuse as Rihanna is.
It’s NOT “just music”. It’s about a woman almost getting killed. If you can think of that as a light subject you can support, again, you have just as few braincells as these two morons.
NOBODY WINS. Not “white guys”, NOBODY.
@daisy, Your first paragraph is, verbatim, what @kirksy said up thread. If you’re posting under two different names, that’s borderline trollish. Especially considering your stance on this issue. Frankly, I’m happy that so many people are up in arms about a black woman being abused. Crimes against blacks and Latinos are grossly under reported in the media, but whenever a white girl goes missing it headlines the 6 o’clock news. Furthermore, wife beaters like Terrence Howard and deviants like R Kelly are welcome back into the fold. So your arguement, about CB being ostracized because he is back, is moot.
It would be incredibly easy to say to ourselves ‘Rihanna has gotten over it. She’s forgiven him. She’s moved on. We should do the same.’ A lot of people have been saying this exact thing for the past three years. That misses the point entirely.
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It’s bigger than Chris Brown because he didn’t invent domestic violence. It’s bigger than Chris Brown because he isn’t responsible for hitting every woman that has ever been a victim of domestic violence. It’s bigger than Chris Brown because he won’t be the one to punch your sister, niece, aunt, mother, grandmother, or daughter.
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No, this isn’t about Chris Brown at all. This is about how at every turn we have failed to have a real conversation about how to prevent this from happening again. We gloss over Brown’s troubles because of his celebrity or talents or relative youth, then dismiss the influence he has over the culture, young girls specifically, because, as we have shown time and again the past three years, we are not prepared to have a dialogue about how to protect little brown girls from violence. But we need to, now more than ever.
Mychal Denzel Smith over at TheGrio.com
And i agree.
“Little Brown girls”??? OMG…You have got to be kidding!!! But I’ll bet you’d be all up in the air if someone said “little white girls.” What’s up with all of these RACIAL insinuations on Celebitchy all of a sudden? It’s every day and getting rather tiresome.
Read Mortician’s comment. I think the poster above is saying that it is by sheer virtue of the celebrity status of the people that it’s getting more attention and more attention is what is not typically given to people who look like Chris and Rhianna who aren’t named Chris and Rhianna. That doesn’t even tap into the portrait of the angry black man and woman of the ghettoes stories that relegate this kind of behaviour to ‘in the family’ status and not the miscarriage of morality or violence stemming from the failure at some higher point of authority to keep people from going down this road. Sometimes, the way that minorities are generally villified can result in kneejerk rallying around the accused, where guilt or innocence stops being the point because the struggle to protect from another round of cannon firing causes people to switch into a survivor mode. Celebrities (pretty much always for the worse) don’t live by the same codes or face the same scrutiny, so when something like this happens, it can seem like an opportunity to open up cultural and racial dialogues pertaining to domestic violence, because when celebrities do it, their recognizability makes it harder to summarily dismiss, so why not address things for that second when you’ve got everybody’s ear? No one’s saying that minorities should be addressed to the exclusion of white girls and women who have endured abuse, it’s just that this unfortunate situation prompts up to remember that those individuals of colour who don’t have the cache that these two have are more likely to suffer ignored, and to remember that celebrity blackness doesn’t give you carte blanche–as it were–to behave miserably and demand support from your ‘community’ and inversely, to demand of ourselves than to blindly follow the follies of minority celebrities solely because he’s likely to receive an extra-heavy drubbing from ‘mainstream’ types.
At any rate, true racism, in those situations when it is overt or quietly greasing its invisible gears is far more distateful than scrolling past some comments one may find distasteful.
Forgiveness is one thing, but this may be a career-killer for her. The message behind this is a strong one and I hope she changes her mind.
I feel like Rihanna felt bad about what went down that night during the ‘incident’. Rihanna and Chris got into a fight- she probably hit him too and just happened to lose the fight because her opponent is obviously physically stronger. She knows she was not a totally innocent party in the altercation and that’s part of why she has never been able to let go of Chris. Chris has never been 100% remorseful because he knows she was not totally innocent. She regrets the fact that the media found out because that’s the ONLY reason they broke up. This reconciliation and the remixes are just a way for her to ease her soul about the whole matter as well as to coax the world into forgiving Chris too. I’m not saying I condone Chris’ hitting of Rihanna, I’m just speculating on what’s going on behind closed doors. Either way I don’t think this is good for her career.
i’m with you on this- always thought that too; that she had a bigger role in it (not that it’s right to get beat over it). she is far from innocent; i’m very sure she was hitting him too throughout the relationship…
Except —— no matter how hard she tries, she could never, ever f**k him up as much as he did her. Therefore your argument insinuating it’s okay since they were both (you assume) hitting each other, is moot.
“It looks like she’s getting played by her abuser again…”
no no- she sought him out. she’s a narcissist (so is he) and they are each others’ supply. sorry, but just look at her- she likes to be punched cause she punches back. (not that it’s right) it’s what she wants and likes. done.
Ri will suffer career backlash. I just wonder if/how much she’ll suffer from Jay’s backlash. He’s been her mentor, and made no bones about how he feels about Chris.
NO ONE “deserves” to be abused. But I must say this time, she’s going into it eyes-wide-open. There’s no question about what he did to her before; the only question is when it will happen again. Because it will. That’s how it works.
Not sure how true it all is but I was reading on another site that apparently Jay’s not involved in managing her anymore. He’s walked away and is done with her. They’ve supposedly parted ways because of her renewing any personal or professional connection with CB. Jay’s been against it and him for a long time now. This supposedly’s been brewing for awhile, at least since she went to court and had the restraining order she had in place against CB lifted. Apparently she’s still with Roc Management but someone else is doing the managing now.
As for backlash from Jay, I’m sure he’s not pleased about it at all. I would also imagine no one on her professional team (agent, manager, publicist, producers, label execs) is very happy with her today either. Pretty sure they didn’t want this. IIRC when rumors dropped that CB was going to be on her album, her team or the producers of her album went out of their way to say that CB wasn’t on the album. No way do I believe that this collaboration was approved by her label or team.
Heck, CB and Rihanna didn’t even go through any official channels to “leak” these songs. They released the songs themselves free of charge on a file sharing site and posted the song links on their personal twitter pages.
I’m sure CB’s team loves this though. This only helps him PR-wise and gives him even more of a free pass for his attempted murder of Rihanna than he had before.
Thank you! That was one of my first thoughts (I posted it on an earlier thread) and no one else said a word. I figured Jay would wash his hands of her.
I will have respect for Jay if he did drop her.
@bells, love the Lohan drinking game idea! We have to do it! Maybe @celebitchy will give us an open thread and we can play along and post as the train wreck takes place!
I figured he would if she took dude back.
Thanks! I asked CB too, if we could pretty please have an open post for the SNL debacle!
God. The lyrics alone make me want to puke. What a vile, classless piece of gutter trash that so-called song is. Does Rihanna have any clue how disgusting she looks allowing this man–or any man for that matter–write lyrics like that about her? Does she think that it makes her look valued? Cared for? Sizzling hot? This industry is a putrid river of self-indulgent, self-entitled sewage and they’re all drowning in it. And I’m a freakin leftie, Godless liberal saying this. Unhh.
A-MEN SISTA!
Every one said it for me…The people have spoken!!! plenty of talent out there…home they have enough cash…
‘HEADLINES” RIANNA BEATEN TO DEATH .
This is the worst song I have ever heard -just awful.
I think they should have said “cake” a few more times. These are lyrics? I know i’m getting up there, but come on. How did even the bloated and narcissistic music industry get to this place?
Rihanna has now pissed off the fan base that matters the most, the ones who actually PAY for her records instead of download them illegally online. Such a stupid decision, I have no respect for her now either. Gross.
Whatever, I’m so sick of hearing about chris brown. Rhianna’s album hasn’t been doing well, so this collaboration was probably just a way to garner attention, and it seems to be working.
Rihanna is literally digging her own grave. Such a shame. It’s just a matter of WHEN, not if he hits her again. And when he does, people are going to say, sadly, we told you so.
I always figured he’d piss off the wrong person and get what’s coming to him. If he’s starting to be snotty towards roided up wrestlers, that day may be coming sooner rather than later!
She’s a fool. She had the means and opportunity to stay far away and have a life without him, someone so many abused people don’t, and she’s crawling back? It’s sad. Both of them need serious professional help.
Yeah, I’m pretty much done with her. Won’t be buying any more of her music. There are plenty of other options if I want to get my light, fun, dancey pop on.
I don’t really care for either of them. That said, Chris Bs treatment of Rihanna was disgusting. On one hand I agree with others that their relationship is for them – if they want to move on then that’s their business. They’ve heard all the arguments, followed the courts advise, and hopefully done the necessary counselling. Yes it will hurt Rihannas image, but not as bad as people think.
I’ve said it before but what I still don’t get is how other celebrities seem to get forgiven. People like Sean Penn (beat Madonna), Charlie Sheen (drugs/hookers/closets/strangling the mother of his children), Burt Reynolds (allegedly beat Loni), Mike Tyson (rape/assault), Polanski.
Yes they got some grief from the public, and definitely some (like Mel Gibson) have done irreparable damage to their careers, but in some cases it seemed their crimes were easily forgotten about. Is it because in some instances they were not charged? Is it because they handled the fall out better or genuinely made amends?
Why the double standard for some celebrity crimes? I don’t know. I don’t support Chris Brown at all. But I don’t get how we seem to forgive and forget others so quickly.
They’ve picked their paths. The best form of public punishment for those who care is simple: don’t support them, don’t buy their music, don’t write or read about them.
She may have forgiven Chris but abused women often forgive their abusers over and over and over.
She just ended her career collaberating with him.
I think she thinks it will be shocking and garner attention and it will but not in the way she wants. It will not sell records. It will do just the opposite & people will purposely turn on her & not buy her album. This song sucks so combined with it being with Chris Brown- GAME OVER!
She will lose at least 85% of her fan base. Career over.
The whole Rihanna/Chris BRown thing happened 3 years ago and obviously she’s forgiven him, which is her prerogative…umm also Eminem openly admitted to beating his ex-wife for years and even wrote a song about it and he wasn’t crucified like Chris Brown was (and still is) I don’t get it…
Just googled Eminem. I see no Domestic Violence accusations from his wife. Only that she attempted suicide after seeing him pummel a “Kim” blowup doll. In fact, he even adopted his ex-wife’s sisters daughter, and his ex-wife’s daughter from another relationship, along with his younger brother. I don’t think he can be compared to Brown in any way, shape or form. Total apples and oranges.
umm what do you think the song ‘Love the way you lie’ by Eminem is about? Just because there are no public accusations by Kim against Eminem doesn’t mean abuse didn’t happen. In most cases women don’t report abuse, and that’s why it continues to go on. And again Eminem co-wrote ‘Love the way you lie’ which happened to be on his latest album recovery which is about him owning up to his past mistakes and taking responsibility for them….
Oh and adopting his ex-wife’s daughters and his younger brother is irrelevant to the specific matter of spousal abuse. Eminem had a rough childhood (the song ‘cleaning out my closet’ explains that)Eminem took it upon himself to give his adopted children and younger brother a more caring and loving environment because he didn’t want them to suffer as he did. Which I think shows he’s a good person regardless of his abuse towards Kim, who knows maybe Chris Brown is a good person too.
Oh and here’s a line from ‘Love the way you lie’: “I laid hands on her. I’ll never stoop so low again/ I guess I don’t know my own strength”
I think it speaks for itself…
@chinny, who says the song is autobiographical? He also wrote a song about killing his mother and she’s still alive. I think you’re really reaching when you interpret all of his lyrics in such a way. Also, you say his adopting those kids has nothing to do with domestic violence,then in the same breath say you think he’s a good person regardless of what he did to Kim. Those two statements are quite contrary.
She played the victim but who’s to say she didn’t initiate the fight we don’t know so how can we judge these people? I say let their music speak for the person they are. The lyrics to Birthday Cake she says “Im gunna make you my b*tch” hah I dont think shes much of a victim she more than likely played a part
Can’t rehabilitate someone who doesn’t think they did anything wrong and feels no impetus to change. Frankly, I think he deserved a lot more punishment than he got. That Rhianna is going back to him after what he did to her makes me sick. He BIT her. Who in their right mind who want to be with a man who would do something like that to them? Add to that the fists and the broken ribs and smashing her face and head into the car dash… she’s an idiot if she thinks he won’t do it again.
Maybe she thinks she’s being badass being attracted to a “bad boy” but this goes beyond “bad boy” and into immature a$$hole who is a narcisstic jerk who can’t even string a proper sentence together. Is that really the best she can do? Is that what she really wants in a man? Pathetic!
Cerulean, I think you are right. People are disappointed and it is like watching an addict go back to shoving a needle in their arm and oh well if they overdose.
The really disgusting thing is that she has sooooo many resources and avenues for support that most women in such situations don’t have. She can fly off anywhere in the world and be pampered; surround herself with interesting people and travel to fascinating places. She has money to access the very best health care, including mental health care and counselling. Clearly she doesn’t care about herself. She almost seems to be on a self-destructive path lately. Her dress is getting sluttier and it’s almost like she’s giving everyone who was outraged on her behalf and supported her when she was beaten the finger. And we all know CB is for sure. It makes me ill that someone like him was awarded a Grammy. I have completely lost all respect for the Grammys after seeing them not only give him an award but allow him to perform. Why the industry keeps giving that pig chance after chance is beyond me. It’s hardly like he’s the only guy with talent around.
I don’t think Rihanna has been quite right since that night that he beat her. I think part of it is that she was embarrassed that the world was watching, so she put out this false bad-a$$ attitude so people wouldn’t see her as a victim. The other part is that she didn’t get the counseling that she needed. I think most abuse victims stay until they get to a point where they are strong enough to walk away, and they get help to get away from their abusers (professionals, friends, family). I don’t think she was ready to walk away from him even after he left her for dead and probably felt forced to leave him by the public. Now’s she going back, like so many abuse victims do and he is taking advantage of it. Right now, the abuse is just emotional…he is using her to boost his career and stringing her along, all the while still has a girlfriend who he doesn’t intend to leave. This won’t end well for Rihanna, I’m sorry to say.
I think you may be on to something here. (And thus I wonder if you’ve been there yourself – I have.)
It takes a l-o-n-g time and lots of work to get this kind of head-trip untangled. If she hasn’t had the support she NEEDS (NOT the support she WANTS), she’s still a tangled mess; no recovery has occurred.
This blog post summed up perfectly why a lot of Rihanna fans are mad: http://fuck-paris.tumblr.com/post/18035577445/rihanna-chris-brown-remixes#notes
What is wrong wit those victims of abusers who run back to their abusers? There are ordinary women that have no place to run from their abusers. But Rihanna has money, fame, respect, protection. And here she is. So stupid. And you know it’s only a matter of time before he will hit her again. Brown is monster. And he will never change. I hope that Rihanna will receive backlash from public.
There’s a level of emotional abuse at play that you (we) are not seeing.
The emotional/psychological abuse takes place long before the actual physical abuse starts.
It’s only when one has been emotionally battered into submission that the physical abuse will start.
I don’t think she “deserves” to be abused if she gets back with him, but she IS going in “eyes wide open” IMO.
Shy, no, they willingly go back because the abuser screws so hard with their mind, and makes their victim think they must love them more than anybody (because, of course, they SAY so, AFTER every time they beat them), so they willingly stay. They don’t really want to leave, until of course that one time when it goes so over the top that they are forced to, OR if they seek counseling and see the abuser for what they are: a lying abuser.
This post has brought some of the most insightful and thought-provoking comments I have seen. I’ve changed my mind about the Chris Brown/RiRi situation about five or six times just reading them.
Keep them coming.
Why do i feel that she’s doing all of this just to get to Chris Brown’s gf?
A part of me feels that too.
She just comes off as immature, too try-hard (we get it you are so ‘bad’ and rebellious’).
I agree that Rihanna is trying to get to Chris’s girlfriend, Karreuche Tran, or however you spell it! I first got that vibe when she dyed her hair blonde with brown roots, like a week after Chris’s girlfriend did. Very single white female of her… 😐
YES! I think that is her primary impetus. She’s got a goal in mind – to piss off the girlfriend and make her leave. Beyond that, I’m sure she hasn’t had a single thought.
I am sorry but Rihanna was never talented to begin with. She just happens to have the perfect skintone and light eyes at a time when they launched a Baby Beyonce.
I remembered that Jay Z launched both Rihanna and tiny Teara Mari and Teaira Marri was always the better singer, the most beautiful one, the most articulate one with the better body, better voice and is the best dancer too. She just didn’t fit the physical type they were looking at the time with her tininess and caramel skin, yet she could sings circles and dance better than Rihanna.
If she had been given the right material with a team pushing her, she would be right there.
Rihanna was just lucky with that ‘Pon, the Replay’ was a hit and that ‘Umbrella’ catapulted her internationally.
She now lives on her laurels betting on her past hit to sell her stupid products but there will be a time, around 30 where her mediocrity will stand up more especially if another, younger more talented light skin starlet comes in.
Brown and her are both trash in my book musically speaking and she has no morals if she rather team up with him after what he did. She sends the wrong signals to all the beaten women out there. She is a major idiot and a mediocre singer.
Umm….yes.
Ugh, I understand what it’s like being d-ckmatized all to well, so I can’t hate on Rih-Rih. I will however hate on her outfit with the tights. Tragic.
Okay what in the hell is wrong with this girl?? Chris Brown is a vile, unattractive, anger-monging little moppet of a man – I see him and all I think is yech! Not to mention he’s the same bitchboy who smashed her face in 2 years ago. Now she’s “collaborating” with him? Rihanna, get your head out of your ass – this does not bode well for you.
I do not see this ending well for Rihanna personally or professionally. This is straight up ignorance and arrogance on their part that the public will “embrace” this in any way, shape or form. It is crass and self serving for both career wise, and with the backlash that has already ensued over the abuse, why oh why would either one of them want to put themselves through this turmoil all over again?? Shock value? Please, we are not THAT shockable. I am more than stunned. To go back to him is one thing, to publish that song is a whole different wrong.
Sad and scary, watching Rihanna get sucked back into the vile vortex of Chris Brown. Here’s to hoping that she gets out unscathed this time.
I have some things that I want to say:
1) Please stop saying, “Rihanna used the abuse for publicity.” I am paraphrasing, but someone basically said that. Rihanna has said repeatedly she is not the poster child for abuse victims in so many words and that pretty much the only reason she left Chris was because she was pressured by the public and those around her. She wanted to stay with Chris. She is still well in the cycle and she doesn’t want to get out yet. It’s sad but that’s how it is for many people. She has never asked to be the poster child for DV. We made her that.
2) That being said, while I empathize with her, I have never had sympathy for her, not because I think she deserves it for staying as I believe she is woman who is still a scared little girl inside . I have no sympathy for her because she doesn’t care about her young fans. She does’t care that she’s in the spotlight and enabling this idiot to go out and do this to another woman. And he will. Because he totally has a God complex. He thinks he is untouchable.
3)Instead of getting mad at RiRi though and calling her all kinds of this and that for staying, we need to focus our bile on the American unjustice system. They always treat a lot of these DV cases as nothing serious until it’s too late.
4) They could have collaborated to make a song about forgiveness and positive rehabilitation, but in true fashion these ignorant fools made a song, and a shitty one at that, about fucking with the worst euphamism ever. And she totally came at Kakookie’s neck with that Rice Cake line. So trife.
Late to the table, but: You can’t FORCE someone to think or behave a certain way, no matter how much you know they’re doing the wrong thing and how much you know you’re right. Unless you take to the point of brainwashing. So that’s not going to happen and so getting upset at R and C is a waste of energy.
And they will make a true change for the better when/if they’re ready to do so. The unfortunate part is that it won’t happen over night and more s*** may go down before then, but that’s what happens.
It’s all very well to say R’s got resources, but the number one resource she has is herself, and her own mind and heart. And until she gets to a point where she’s growing up and learning and moving on, we’re going to keep getting this kind of stuff happening. Same with Chris Brown.
The best anyone – parents/family and teachers in particular – can do at this point is use it as a “teaching moment,” as the teaching community likes to say. And that means, talking about all this, and away from the “blame” approach and more using a critical thinking approach.
As in, asking our kids, “so x celebrity says they’re strong and they do xyz…what does “strong” and “independent” mean to you?” And so forth.
It’s sad that both R and C (imo, b/c I dn’t really know) haven’t had that kind of upbringing.
I really dislike their behaviour, and actions do speak louder than words, and their actions aren’t speaking very well for them. But like I said earlier, the best you can do is try to teach your young’uns good from bad, to think critically, to learn about your options and resources and how to behave, and what’s a good respectful way to be treated, how to respect yourself, and so on.
It’s like somone said earlier, you don’t want to enable this thing, but you can figure out how to be there to help pick up the pieces, you can show more positive ways of living and behaving, you can make available to someone like them all the resources taht they may use, you can help them help themselves, but after a certain point, it’s up to them to make those choices and decisions.
Castigating them in public, hurling abuse at them, and all that only backs them into a corner. it doesn’t help them and it doesn’t help other people who might be in abusive situations.
And my opinion is mostly based on experience from dealing with friends in abusive situations and no matter what I said or did, those friends didn’t remove themselves from their situations until THEY were ready to. Was it on MY schedule, when I thought they should? No. Did they suffer years of abuse even after people pointed out to them that what was happening was wrong and they dserved better? Yes. All I can think is that it’s just one of those horrible situations that if you’re a friend of someone in a situation like that is provide what help you can without damaging your own life, and then make sure you’re there for them when they’re ready to take that helping hand. I just dn’t know what else people can do, really.
I believe a certain woman named Tina Turner needs to have a talk with Rihanna before that girl gets herself into more deep sh-t. Get advice from the one who’s been through it before.
This was posted Rhymes With Snitch:
how do we know that maybe JUST maybe this is riri trying to get out from under jayz?? Someone in another post commented on her body chain and noticed a cross **although pagan idol** most christians or Messiah believers naively symbolize the cross for Him….rihanna has been tweeting ALOT about the Almighty Father and qouting scriptures…I get a weird but positve feeling that robyn is seeking our Heavenly Father and her rebellion is her way of breaking free. She’s also allegedly working on a 7th album which makes me think she’s fulfilling her contractual agreement and giving roc their due albums so she can walk away owing nothing. Idk I just see little signs that rihanna might be coming to her senses and choosing her love and happiness over money and jayzs power which would be a giant step!! Jmho to I could be mistaken! **shrug**
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I usually try to look at things from all angles and this is one I missed, mostly because I don’t follow Twitter or RiRi that much aside from the CB thing. But now I am starting to wonder. Jay-Z is evil. Maybe she is trying to rebel. Maybe.
Please let this be the end of both of their careers. Please. Ah beggin’.
I don’t know if this has already been posted, but CM Punk made a video reply to CB and it’s awesome.
Check it out here, it’s the first one on the page:
http://cmpunk.com/
What an idiot. At least it was clear to the world that he’s a no good, entitled, angry little prick. But now she joins the club and makes everyone who stood behind her after she was humiliated look like idiots. I am truly disappointed. It will happen again.
What feckin’ eejits! Words can’t describe. It seems to think that it’s beyond or above it all. Silly cows. It doesn’t realize that this is so not its call. I truly hope that both of their acting and singing careers crash and burn. Neither is deserving.
Umm, yeah, I’m done with her too.
Geez, I thought it couldnt be any more difficult to listen to Rihannas nasty voice, but she proved me wrong!
Anyone listen to the lyrics of Love The Way You Lie Part 2 on her album a while back? Didn’t realize it was autobiographical. 🙁 It’s her life, but I feel sad for her, and it also makes me lose respect for her. Others may feel her image, music, etc. didn’t deserve respect, but this isn’t about her talent. This is about her. I don’t know her personally, but I know enough who’ve been in abusive relationships to know this isn’t healthy. It’s not even the getting back together part as much as the classic denial and the secrecy to avoid the scrutiny of those in her life that do care.
First off, even regardless of who is involved in this song … the song is awful. How anyone could listen to this crap and think it’s a good song is beyond me.
With that said, I think Rihanna’s involvement in this will hurt her image somewhat. I’m sure it will help Chris Brown’s image, but it will bring Rihanna down to his level in the process. This chick has always struck me as having somewhat of a masochistic streak, to be honest, and I think that’s why she is having trouble making a 100% break from this douchebag.
“Love the Way You Lie” pretty much sums up Rihanna’s mental/emotional issues to me. Girlfriend can do whatever she wants with her life, she’s an adult, but I have a feeling it will come back to bite her later. It’s certainly not healthy.
I don’t even want to listen to that song. Is it true that Rihanna referred to Chris Brown’s half Asian girlfriend Karrueche Tran as “a rice cake” (I’m sweeter than that rice cake)in the song? She probably gets away with that racism…
Just because someone on here suggested that doesn’t make it true. I’m just sayin’.
Just goes to show what kind of people they both are.
Young and dumb.
We heard yesterday that they were back together on the news. I have officially cut Rhianna out of my playlists and I change the channel on the radio. Not to make a point per se, just because she makes me sick for doing this. What example is she setting for other girls/women? I know she said she does not want to be a role model but she is and a lot of women do not want to get beat but they do.
Hmm, why post a link to the song if you don’t like it? The more hits and attention they can get is what they are obviously striving for. Kinda enabling like the rest of them ain’t it?
So if you have cut off Rihanna out of your playlist and that you have changed the channel. Do you think Rihanna cares LOOOOOL seriously she don’t care LOOOL
Most people are going absolutely ape shit about this and it’s hilarious to see that you guys care so much like this girl is your best friend or something. I think the only reason people are so pissed about this is because they painted her out as a victim and she played that role—for a while. And now that she’s done two songs with Chris, she’s made a lot of people feel like a fool. I don’t know why all of you care. She’s never wanted to be a role model or claimed to be one, for that matter. That’s something all her sappy ass fans and rah-rah cheerleaders have done. If you all care so much about domestic violence, start volunteering for a battered women’s shelter instead of letting shit that happened three years ago piss you off this much and pout about it online. If she doesn’t give a fuck and has moved on, so can you.