You guys called it – Halle Berry is using her blowup at the paparazzi in a bid in her custody case to argue that she needs to move to France with her daughter, Nahla. We’ve heard about this before, but now there’s more news of how she intends to carry out her master plan. This would be of course against Nahla’s father’s wishes, and Gabriel Aubry has fought hard at every turn to retain custody and visitation right with his four year-old daughter. Never mind that Halle could move a county or two over and achieve the same objective. That’s not her goal here.
So as you may remember, Halle started yelling at the paparazzi outside her daughter Nahla’s school in early May. This is the first time I’ve seen a video of the incident, and Halle is screaming at the guy while he is sitting in his car. It’s unclear what he did to provoke her, although reports at the time claim that Halle was sick of being stalked outside her child’s school every day.
TMZ reports that Halle is going to call that particular pap to the stand in her custody case, in order to establish that he uses aggressive tactics to get photographs of celebrities. They explained on TMZ live that the paparazzo, a guy named Andrew Deetz, is likely to be subpoenaed in order to bring him on, hopefully as a hostile witness. Here’s more:
The aggressive paparazzo who incited Halle Berry at her daughter’s school is going to be called to the witness stand and grilled like a cheeseburger … in Halle’s bid to move her family to Paris.
Halle is getting ready to fight it out with baby daddy Gabriel Aubry in family court. She is asking the judge to allow her to move to Paris, where she claims the paparazzi respect the privacy of celebrities and their families much more than in the U.S.
Sources tell TMZ … her lawyer will call independent photog Andrew Deetz to the stand — he’s the photog who was lurking around Nahla’s school, causing Halle to explode in anger. We’re told Halle’s lawyer, Stephen Kolodny, will use Deetz as a human exhibit — getting him to expose his no-holds-barred tactics of shooting the children of celebs.
[From TMZ]
On TMZ Live, head Harvey Levin argued that this wasn’t a big setup by Halle to have some “evidence” for her custody case. (That segment is at 2:00 into this video and is well worth watching.) His argument was that this same paparazzo, Andrew Deetz, got in a fight with Britney Spears’ bodyguard back in 2007, in which Deetz accused Spears’ security of beating him up. Levin explained that the photographer has “a history, and he’s considered a very aggressive guy.” Another TMZ staffer asked, very convincingly, what would happen if Deetz argued on the stand that Halle is crazy, and that you can see in the video that she’s going off on him. Levin said this wouldn’t hurt Halle’s case because Deetz “has no ability to say she’s crazy, he’s not around her enough, but he’s the one that chose to go to Nahla’s school and that’s a big no-no. We don’t do that.”
The same TMZ staffer pressed the issue, with a point that many of you have made in the past: Gabriel should argue that Halle is crazy based on that video. Levin kept arguing Halle’s side, saying “it’s not an issue of who’s a better parent, the only real issue is, is it safe for Nahla to be in the United States. Is she better off in France?” Then they got into this whole argument, with two different guys saying Gabriel is very cool with the paparazzi and doesn’t have this issue, and Levin saying that Halle will argue that Gabe “parades this kid in front of the press.” We totally know who TMZ’s source is, and that Levin is protecting her. He’s not just playing devil’s advocate.
Halle is apparently going to call other witnesses to the stand who will argue that “The French culture is such that photographers generally respect families more.” Levin then explained that Halle gets stalked and followed more than any other celebrity he knows about. Another TMZ staffer suggested she move to Santa Barbara, which is where Oprah and other celebrities live. Again, problem solved, but that’s not Halle’s objective.
So let me get this right, Halle lost her cool and cursed out a photographer, who appeared to be sitting in his car and not bothering her at the time. We don’t know what preceded it, and it’s wrong and probably illegal for photographers to follow Halle and her daughter to school. It’s likely outrageous what she has to deal with, and I would probably go off on someone too. Still, Halle is going to use the fact that she got mad at someone and flipped out at them in order to argue that she should be able to move to France. This woman will stop at nothing.
Halle is shown on 5-9-12 getting mad at a photographer. Photo credit: Bruja/Juan Sharma, PacificCoastNews.com and FameFlynet. She’s also shown out with Olivier on 5-26-12 and with Nahla on 5-16-12. Credit: WENN.com
I used to be skeptical about her. Now I simply don’t believe anything she says, or that anything she does is genuine.
Cannot. Stand. Her.
agreed, that woman be crazy..
Like I tell my teenage boys..
Pretty doesn’t make up for crazy EVER!
This is about the best acting role I’ve seen Halle play in awhile. LOL. Fake azz B.
She is an actress for a reason. The should have all of her old boyfriends and husbands testify and I bet they will give sole custody to Gabriell. I am just saying
Set up, set up, set up. That woman is INSANE. I can’t stand her either.
I wonder… when her “romance” with Oliver will be over (couple of months? A year, tops?) what will she do? Come back to the US crying about how rude and unemotional and abusive the French man was to her? Why does she not care that she is ruining other people’s lives? Her own daughter’s, Aubry’s, her current “boyfriend”‘s, her child’s grandparents’, and so on and so forth…
I wonder… when her “romance” with Oliver will be over (couple of months? A year, tops?) what will she do? Come back to the US crying about how rude and unemotional and abusive the French man was to her?
You KNOW that that could very likely happen, right? Because what you’re describing is not a far-fetched scenario at all.
Why does she not care that she is ruining other people’s lives?
Because the most important person in Halle Berry’s life is clearly…Halle Berry herself.
@Eve
I know, right? It’s like being at the theatre to watch a poorly written movie, where you can perfectly guess the next move of the evil character.
She makes me so irritated and disappointed AND very sad for Aubry’s little girl.
She is a lesbian, she will totally turn to the other side and that will be her reason she is just over men. when the truth will be she will be going through menopause, hormones will be raging and she will be impossible for any man to even want to deal with. Plus the fact that she was already crazy
She’s really creepy. Guess that’s her craziness. Totally out of control.
A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far far away when she claimed to be the abused woman who was slapped so hard she lost her hearing in one ear (remember that?)
I used to like her. She was smart, pretty or at least seemed like that in the interviews.
Alas, then came the internet and either she was lying even then or the abuse made her crazy and she should be put away for her own good – that is not a bitchy statement. She is not right in the head and if 1/2 of what she has said about the men in her life is true she needs to keep Nala away from anyone she dates.
Oh and whatever happened to little India Benet? The cute little girl she adopted when she was married to her dad Eric. India is probably a young woman now, I bet she has a few things to say.
Doesn’t “adopted” mean “keep in touch after a divorce?”
It is Halle’s treatment of India that caused me to dislike her. If Nahla rebels as she grows up – Halle may cut her out of her life.
This sounds harsh but I’ve thought it for years – I think the real reason Halle cut India out of her life is because the poor little girl was so homely. Yes, I think Halle is that shallow.
I used to really like Halle but she is one bitter bitch.
Sooo much to say on this! I agree – I used to like her; hell, I even felt bad for her.
Then the relationship with Eric Benet ends (it’s the same story) and so does her relationship with India.
On to her relationship with Gabriel. It’s all fine and glorious and wonderful for awhile; they have Nahla; then it ends; and it’s the SAME STORY AGAIN.
And now, despite all evidence to the contrary, HB expects to the court (and US!) that she is so deeply concerned for Nahla’s safety from the paps that she needs to MOVE TO FRANCE TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL?!? #rueffingkidding
Never mind that a loving, concerned parent with her means could hire security; move to a gated community or build a fence; send a body-guard to pick up her daughter to school; OH! and most importantly, encourage the loving relationship said daughter already has with her father and his side of the family.
This woman is so far beyond a bitter bitch that I don’t even know a word for it.
I don’t get it. So many celebrities get admired here for being manipulative, so many others get a pass for almost anything. Why the Halle Berry hate?
Why all the HB hate? Really? Whats to admire?
Her continued alienation of a perfectly great father to nahla for starters.
She is trying to kick the natural father to the curb and replace him with her boyfriend of the moment.
Throw in all of her lies and very overt manipulations……I used to LOVE her…….Now, after all of her stupidity Ill never watch another of her movies again….cant stand her.
Fake.
Oh yeah, photographer’s on the payroll, and I can’t stand Harvey Levin! He’s such a toady tool.
BTW Halle- that hairdo makes you look like you just escaped from the asylum.
Hee hee, I know! As if she needs anything to make her look more crazy!
Curly hair or not, that B is crazy!!! BTW why is Levin on Halle’s side.
The interesting thing about TMZ is that their whole business is based on paps? Maybe I missed something because how does TMZ get their videos, photos, etc?
I know right?
Normally I love loose, mid length Afros on women but on her it’s just wrong. Is it the old red highlights? Is it cut too round? It’s hideous.
Example of what the cut should look like: http://www.polyvore.com/midlength-afro_free_hair_style_gallery/thing?id=22932669
It was a setup. I hope they ask the pap who phones them to tell them where they can find Halle on an almost daily basis and how that is the only time she had an issue. Only an idiot would believe this isn’t going to happen in France. I think Halle would miss the attention too much. Not like she has anything else to do.
This CAN’T happen in France; their laws forbid it.
she is one manipulative, crazy b*tch.
i can’t imagine any man wanting to be in a relationship with her. OM has invited years of pain and suffering into his life. good luck with all THAT.
hopefully, he will be smart enough not to have any children with her.
Agreed, Olivier should watch his back with this beotch.
And she needs to watch his. He will cheat on her, I’d bet money on it.
Aren’t there rumours he already did??
Liv, I think you’re right. Like has a piece in France. Halle moving there could really curb his style. 🙂
😉
I cannot stand this scheming, manipulative cow! I’m looking forward to the day she turns all her hate/crazy on to Oliver (most likely when she discovers all his dicking around) – then maybe she’ll spend a lot less time and energy trying to remove Aubry from Nahla’s life.
if he does cheat, then i guess she can play the victim card once again.
I don’t know what is wrong with her but she sure knows how to pick aholes.
I have nothing against Gabriel. He thankfully seems to be the only sane man she has ever dated (so of course she f*cked that up royally).
But the others:
David Justice (ahole) Eric Benet (sex addict) Wesley Snips (ahole) Olivier Martinez (serial cheater) – I think there are more that I am not remembering.
Please give Nala back to Gabriel and keep her away from your usual type of man.
Wait a sec….. Her argument is that French paps are respectful? Does she not remember how Princess Diana died???
French paps can’t publish family photos in French newspaper. That’s a protection for French celebrity because what’s the point of taking photo you won’t be able to sale? But these laws are useless in HB case. On the contrary, French paps will be very happy to finally be able to take photo they can sale to the American press
Wow, that’s a great point. I hope Gabe’s team brings that up in court.
Thanks for the info about French pap rules, Dap.
So Nahla wouldn’t be any ‘safer.’
Wow, that is interesting. Halle probably knows this but is counting on Gabriel and the Judge NOT knowing this. Thanks!
Excellent point! I hadn’t even thought of that, so I’m willing to bet Legal Team Gabriel hasn’t.
Quick! If any CB’ers know him or someone who knows him, TELL. HIM.
VERY good point! Also, in every country are paparazzis. She is just pathetic and crazy.
Halle Berry is so bloody transparent it would be comical if it wasn’t so outrageous.
I remember that coming up the last time there was a Halle post. The paps are respectful because they have no idea who she is.
Exactly… the French paps respected Diana alright – to death.
Wonder how much she had to pay the pap? Obviously the whole thing was staged. What a devious, vicious woman.
Why doesn’t Halle also call this other pap who took these photos to testify? Why isn’t she yelling at the OTHER paps taking her picture, who are also right there at Nahla’s school?
I do think it’s because she called them to come record a confrontation she was planning, with this bad-reputation, ‘aggressive’ pap who she knew would be there.
I mean, why is she walking right past this other pap, instead of chiding him too, if she’s so scared of paps at Nahla’s school? It makes no sense.
Yep, I absolutely believe she tracked down and hired the pap “that gave Britney a hard time”. Hopefully GA’s attorneys can get the pap to admit it in open Court and expose her plan. GA ought to subpoena her bank records just to see if she was lazy enough to leave a paper trail to pay the pap off.
“Levin then explained that Halle gets stalked and followed more than any other celebrity he knows about.”
Really? I don’t by that for a second. I don’t even consider her an A list actress anymore…she’s barely B list. I honestly think that she is just a self centered person and I feel really bad for Gabriel and most of all their little girl. How selfish of her to want to take her to another country and away from her father. I would put money on it that she set this whole thing up and I hope it blows up in her face.
And with that, Levin’s observation is met with a big ole WHATEVER!!!!
Because, correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t this heffa b!tched about the paps invading her backyard for a pic of Nahla, then proceeded to have an impromptu news conference/screaming match with the paps, with Nahla in hand, at some public place, resulting in Nahla being plastered on all of the tabloids, the very thing she claimed that she did not want for Nahla?
“Levin then explained that Halle gets stalked and followed more than any other celebrity he knows about.”
the big question is WHY is she stalked more than other celebrities?
That is a good question. After all, she hasn’t made any movie of note in years. Her rep with the opposite sex isn’t great and given that she has now expanded her wrath to White men too… well, Halle’s beautiful, but I think most dudes will think twice about putting their d!ck in if she’s going to turn into a hell demon!
Of course, stalkers aren’t exactly right in the head, so there you are.
A-listers aren’t stalked as much as they used to be. They have been saved by the Reality Whores. Paps need to be paid and if an easy picture of KimKarTRASHian gets them the same as a hard to get photo of Charlize or Sandra or KStew for the younger set – why do the extra work.
Halle is not A-List or D-List so no, she is not really on their radar other than when she goes nuts. Then the tabloids and blogs need photos to go with the stories.
Did he say that with a straight face? (I haven’t watched the video.) Because I’m calling bullchunks on that one!
The only reason she is “stalked” by the paps is because she arranges it, to once again shout “VICTIM!”
The issues this chick has could fill whole volumes of encyclopedias.
That hair is truly awful. Awful!
I agree. Why did she do that to her hair? It is not a good look. I hope it’s just for a movie role because if it’s not..she needs to get a new look. It takes away from her beauty. You can’t even tell how gorgeous she is because of that horrible hair.
Well she couldn’t get the racism accusation to stick, also the battery charges against the nanny didn’t make a difference regarding Gabriel’s visitation, and didn’t she accuse him of neglect when Nahla had some injury or something in that vein – I think she called family services on him(?)
Anyway, my point is, I hope the Judge can see through her manipulation.
edit; I have to add, and I hate the word and apologise in advance but this poor excuse of a woman is a complete Cee U Next Tuesday.
I agree with you. She couldn’t get the attempts at character assassination against Gabe to stick so now she has to use plan B, which is Nahla and her “safety”. She needs to be stopped. Hope the judge and CPS and whomever else is involved in the decision making sees this.
I am not sure how she could live with herself for separating a daugher and Father…especially one that seems as doting and hands on as Gabriel.
She should be ashamed of herself. A young girl needs a strong, stable Father figure in her life..Oliver may be a good, decent man…but he isn’t her real Dad. Stepfathers can be wonderful..especially when a little girl doesn’t have her real Dad..but this isn’t the case here. If she is able to move to France..the judge should insist Gabriel go as well and that Halle should pay for his expenses. oooh..wouldn’t that just be the icing on the cake Halle!
IA- if she wants to live in France so badly she should have to pay for Gabriel!
Wonder what it will be like for an American residing in France- now that there is a socialist president.
Will she be subject to taxes there too? Or is she planning to give up US citizenship?
After all of crazy girl’s failed attempts to take away Nahla I hope the judge sees her for what she is- interesting how suddenly she has “proof”
of stalking at this juncture.
Wish Gab gets proof of her tipping paps for pics!
She will have to pay both American taxes and local taxes. All Americans abroad do – I am one of them.
Harvey Levin says that Halle is stalked more than any other celebrity? Really? More than Brangelina? More than Madonna? More than David Letterman (myabe not now, but in the past)? REALLY Harvey?
Harvey is on Halle’s side, for whatever reason(s). He is not outlining the facts of her case, he is arguing it from HER point of view, only, as if her facts are true. There is a whole set of facts from GA’s point of view that he neglects to mention.
More than Blohan? Rimes? Bieber?
Halle calls the paps. How else would they know she, OM, and Nahla are having lovely family time at the beach at that time? She’s playing both ends against the middle, and I hope the middle busts her ass.
I think Rimes and Blohan call them too. Not sure about Beiber. Does anyone over 12 care about him. I never click on his stories and worse he lives by me – him, Shia and Charlie Sheen. So they come up in the local “Patch” news letter.
With you on Bieber, ZB. I don’t think I’ve ever listened to one of his songs, unless I didn’t know I was listening to it. I also think he’s a little shit, but that’s another story.
Wow, ZB, the douche trifecta of neighbours.
GA should go for full custody. Did HB ever bother to attend the parenting classes she was ordered to?
She needs to go back to her short sassy haircut, those curls do not look good on her. I’m surprised these two have lasted this long.
hmmm….paps aren’t supposed to be outside of schools and she had every right to curse him out about it. But just because shes asking the judge to move to France doesn’t mean Gabe will lose his visitation rights, they would be altered not lost, correct? Any CA family law doctors in here? I know he’s Canadian, maybe he can get a place with Halle’s money in CA so he can see Nahla more often since I would think it would be easier for her to fly to Canada instead of CA. I dont think he’ll lose all rights, but have it adjusted. They were actually very amicable with one another when they first separated, its a shame for their daughter they behave the way they do. Neither one is wrapped to tight in my opinion.
If the pap was trespassing, then she should have called the police and then had a restraining order on this ONE pap that seems to be agressive – like Nicole Richie did. She should NOT have acted like a psychopath. And if she moves to France with Nahla, I don’t think the US will have much jurisdiction telling them what to do. Then it will end up in courts in France and Halle probably thinks she will have the advantage to get sole custody and cut Gabriel out of Nahla’s life completely.
True about Nicole Richie, but she was on tape cursing/telling off paps on a few occasions as well. Plus it took her a very long time to do so after numerous altercations with Paps at the school. On that note, I’m in agreement with HB for cursing them out. They deserved it and it’s gross behavior.
Now onto her wanting to move, she would have to claim total French citizenship correct? Which she can’t do for X amount of months. Which would be a hassle since she works in Hollywood. This has me thinking that she will try claim dual citizenship which would make her susceptible to CA laws since that’s her home state. If Gabe was smart, he would take up a residence in Canada, have her pay for it, and get his time with his daughter. He’s Canadian after all so I’m sure it wouldn’t be too difficult for him to do this.
Just going by those pictures she looks like a mad woman having a rant in the street. Definitely overreacting a wee bit.
Gabriel should sue for full custody. If cray cray wants to move to France with Olivier, go. She has the means to fly back and forth to Nahla and vice versa, though I wouldn’t put it past her to keep the kid if she got her out of the US.
Wow, this woman is just gross now. It’s a shame how much she’s chosen to destroy the relationship between a Father and her Daughter for the sake of getting what she wants.
God only knows what she whispers into poor Nahla’s ears when Gabriel isn’t around.
Am I the only one who noticed that Halle is so much more present in press than GA? She’s been in the press many times these last months with many silly news, and later with the paps thing. When was the last time Gabriel was spotted with Nahla? Why isn’t he followed all the time as Halle is? Very suspicious, isn’t it?
I was going to say that, but I was thinking GA might be purposely staying on the DL for now, to prove a point to the Court — that it can be done, and Halle is causing this problem ONLY to further her custody cause.
+1, think you are absolutely right, and also it prooves that who doesn’t want to be in the papers, can do it.
I understand that paps shouldn’t be outside any schools, but it really pisses me off when I see these pap shots that she CLEARLY arranged (shopping in the drugstore.) How can she complain about them one minute and then arrange to have photos taken the next? How can she plan to say that GA “parades” Nahla in front of the paps when she does the same thing?? I really hope the judge sees through her BS.
ETA: yeah, what Kat said above too.
Seriously, is anyone surprised that Harvey Levin is Team Halle when he did give Gabriel’s ex-piece(s) a forum to accuse him of making racial slurs, conveniently, around the time Halle made those accusations?
I can’t stand this woman anymore! First, if Gabriel did this, he would be made to go to anger mgt. classes again. Second, if it’s true that Halle gets stalked by paps more than any celeb, it’s b/c they are just waiting for her to explode so they can get the pic. She has no self control and she is narcissistic. I hope the judge is not star struck and can see that this woman is a horrible parent to her daughter. Nahla always looks happy with Gabriel and he doesn’t have these issues w/ paps. Maybe Halle should move to France and leave Nahla with her father with sole custody.
Dont trust this woman. Would not be at all suprised if this was a setup. She is sly, cunning and devious. All of her relationships have ended badly and its never down to her. She takes no blame what so ever. I get the feeling behind closed doors she is a nightmare to have a relationship with and uses her status to control her partners. She never talked badly about gab, always praised him until the day they separated then she quickly started her smear campaign. Her true colors came to light after she had her child. I feel sorry for her daughter because any father figure will be ripped away when Halle has had enough of them. Creating a complex that will surface in her daughter when she is older. Relationships with much older men, seeking approval from men. Not healthy and with halle having an absent father you’d think she”d do right by her child. Wrong she is selfish.
Yep. I was feeling sorry for myself not too long ago, getting all whiny and everything, and finally said, you know? The only common denominator in all of this is ME.
Halle needs to do the same.
I just don’t get why paps would care about her…how much value could she have anymore? It’s bizarre.
Set-up set-up set-up. She must call the press. And they go, because while she is a lousy actress on film, she can really wind it up in front of the paps. And that makes for good copy for them, and ammo for her agenda. Her plan is so obvious that any judge worth their robe will see through it. Hopefully.
It’s horrible what people do to their children in the name of “love.”
I swear, I think some people should be mandatorily neutered and prohibited from adoption.
Hmm is it just coincidnece that Halle lives next door to Harvey Levin from TMZ and their stories are usually pro Berry?
I’ve seen pics of Jennifer Garner’s kids at school- Violet (I think?)
all the time.
I fail to see how school is any different than let’s say the beach, where Halle parades that kid around while wearing her bikini.
But that’s not intrusive, right?
Personally, I think this video makes the case for Gabe saying she is unstable.
I think the reason schools are big no no is due to the privacy rights of the other students.
Of course she set this up, of course she did. I think she has always had a bit of crazy in her but this goes over the line. Willing to hurt your child’s relationship with her father, a very good father at that is simply selfish and mean spirited. The judge should tell her that when Nahla is 18 she can move wherever she wants, until that time however, she must co-parent with Gabe. And if she doesn’t like it, that is just too damn bad. This is about her daughter, not Halle. What a shame that she would put herself and her man of the moment in front of what is best for her child.
Gabriel needs to hurry up and find a good mate to settle down with, and present the picture of stability and family life. Some things can’t be hurried, I know, but I wish him a loving divorced mom who’s not in the entertainment business and can’t be bought with a reality show.
where can I apply?… 😉
Me too!
I’m of the opinion that it is Halle Berry that is a piece of $hit. No matter how hard she tries to convince all of us otherwise.
Wow. She’s manipulative and blatant, with the latter compromising the former.
Why do I even bother on this thread designed to call the hate? But here goes.
A couple of years back Julia Roberts did the same thing … went off on a Pap who followed her to the twins’ school. They video tapped her getting out of her car, slamming the car door, and marching back to the Pap’s car where she very animatedly put her finger in his face and cursed him out in a loud and angry manner. The video was shown repeatedly on TV gossip shows, but I don’t once remember anyone saying that the scene was ‘fake’ and ‘set up’ on Julia’s behalf. Or that she was crazy for going off on the Pap. Julia even defended her behavior and condemned the Pap in question in several interviews after the fact.
Halle isn’t asking for full custody, she’s asking for the right to move her daughter to France. And why all the ‘boo wooing’ over ‘poor’ Gabriel … who does seem to parade Nahla in front of the press … does anyone here not recall all the photos of Nahla in his arms looking scared to death as he smiled his way through the Paps???
Gabriel makes $250,000 a year as a model, and who knows what other endorsement deals he has? How could he ‘not’ afford to visit his daughter in France? And has Halle actually said that she wouldn’t allow him to bring her to the States for a visit?
I do understand that Halle is a favorite hate magnet here and more power to you guys on that, everyone’s opinion being okay and all. But how many on this thread really wouldn’t have acted actually like Halle in the same situation in front of your child’s school?
I like Halle AND Gabriel … I just don’t see why Halle always has to be the bad guy in this situation.
What about jurisdiction over Nahla’s custody? Suppose California loses jurisdiction and Halle has an unimpeded shot at getting full custody in France? And how long is $250K going to last (and when is GA supposed to work) if he is forced to fly back and forth to France every other week to maintain a relationship with his daughter?
How would CA lose jurisdiction? HB is American and her home state is CA. Unless she is going to move to France and claim citizenship there after X amount of months (which probably wont happen since she works here), CA will not lose jurisdiction. She’s asking for permission to move, not to strip him of his rights. Gabe is a Canadian resident. If she wants to move with her French Fiance she can, BUT Gabe should make Halle purchase a residence in Canada to make it easier for him to retain his rights with Nahla. He more than likely has dual citizenship, and it shouldn’t be too hard to set up. She wants it give it to her…but she should buy him a home in Canada, or really anywhere on the upper east coast and maintain it for him and Nahla. Isn’t there a school in France that has the same school in the US in NY that uses the exact same curriculum? Gabe needs to lay it all there. Make Halle purchase home on the east coast, enroll her in that school that has same curriculum around the world, and maintain all of his visitation rights.
@Lena – california can claim jurisdiction and demand Nahla’s return as much as it wants but the French courts do not have to capitulate. There have been quite a few high profile cases of foreign courts/foreign law enforcement completing disregarding American custody agreements.
Yeah, Ol Cranky. That is what I was thinking too. Halle is no dummy. She probably figures if she can get Nahla to France, she could make it impossible for GA to ever get his hands on her again. And she’s probably right. Did you see that story about the Dad that unlawfully took his very young daughter to Greece and the nightmare, private investigators, trips to Greece, covert ops, the mom went thru? By the time she caught up with her daughter, she’d been pretty much brain-washed that Mom was the bad guy, was fully on the Dad’s side, and stayed in Greece. Heartbreaking.
Julia wasn’t fighting for custody or toove. She didn’t have any obvious ulterior motives.
Halle did not put Gabriel’s name on Nahla’s birth certificate. This all started when Gabriel went to court to get his name added so he had legal rights in terms of being her father.
Halle didn’t like that.
I am not arguing with you; I have always wondered about that though. Nahla’s last name is Aubry. How could that be if GA is not listed as her father on the birth certificate?
A BC surname doesn’t have to ‘match’ any listed parent. I know a couple who used a grandmother’s last name for their kid, and a few gay couples who adopted kids, and the whole family took a new, made-up surname.
The Nahla’s legal surname gives GA no rights—but being named as ‘father’ on the official BC does.
Ok, but is he absolutely not listed as the dad on her BC? Has anyone ever seen it? With all this acrimony, why hasn’t Halle simply started calling her daughter Nahla Berry? I sure think he would have objected not being named as dad on the BC, since he (and Halle ) knew he was the dad, and if Halle had made some reason up that he wasn’t named as dad on the certificate. Besides, here in CA, I do not think you are allowed to simply put “not stated” anymore. Were Halle’s “wheels” turning way back then?
MW, I personally have not seen Nahla’s birth certificate. But I can tell you that this all started when Gabriel went to court to put his name on it. My guess (and it’s just a guess) is that Halle started to act like she was going to cut him out, and if his name is not on Nahla’s birth certificate as her father he has no say in her care at all.
I was thinking actually why he first went to court was to get his rights, custody and visitation sorted out legally, since there was no divorce where those issues normally would’ve been decided. Not cuz his name wasn’t on the BC. (The press doesn’t care about “minor details, like the actual truth). Halle went ballistic at that point when she suddenly realized GA had (gasp!) rights and privileges when it came to their daughter, that Halle had no control over.
One of the first things Cali family courts do is ask after the paternity of the child, whether the father’s name is on the birth certificate or not.
If it’s subject to debate, a paternity test is ordered. (If the father is established as the genetic father, he has to pay for the test.)
p.s. Emma, Julia lives in New Mexico, not LA County.
You are missing the whole point. You have to look at the entire history of Halle’s behaviour towards Gabriel and then you want to look at the entire history of her behavior in the past because something is not right. She is devious to the extreme. She has spent the last few years trying to eliminate Gabriel from Nahla’s life and this France thing is just another way of doing that. If this does not work, trust me she will come up with an even bolder scheme. It may still involve moving to France but she will have something even more dire happen to her or Nahla or some crazy stuff. Just watch if you don’t believe me and you think all of us hate Halle for no reason.
Emma – take a deep breath.
Halle is no Julia. Halle has a long, well documented series of events in her life that do not show her as an emotionally stable person…this is just ANOTHER example. Julia, in context of “Hollywood/Celeb” life has been quiet and non-confrontational throughout her career…benign really in Hollywood life of the star status she once had.
Of course none of us knows what goes on behind anybody’s closed doors, but Halle has let this play out in public for everybody to judge and jury and most of us don’t like what we see…what I believe is that everything I have seen or have read about these two is that he is the more mentally stable of the two. She wanted to wage “open” war on him…then deal with the battle scars Halle dear.
You don’t move a child to a different country from his or her parent! So she has to fly to see her dad- if Halle even allows it- instead of see him on a weekly basis? How reasonable of you! And how long will he be a successful model? He’s not getting any younger. And he should spend all his money flying to see his kid instead of living near her and/or having her half the time as he wants to and has a right to?? So many deadbeat dads in this country, people like Pinault who can’t even remember his son’s birthday, and you’re vilifying a man who just wants to be his daughter’s dad?
No I don’t remember pics of Nahla looking scared, she always seemed happy with her father. Don’t tell me you wouldn’t mind if your child lived thousands of miles away bc you could afford to “visit” them.
Why has the judge not ordered a psychological evaluation on this narcissist? She clearly has narcisistic personality disorder. I mean all of us knew exactly what she was up to why can the judge not see this? And whoever brought up the point about french paps being able to sell photos to the american press, that is very clever of you to think of that. Hope the judge knows and somebody’s email and phone records need to be subpoenaed. I mean it is obvious she has all of this prearranged so should’t it be easy to track down the truth.
I really don’t think it is a stretch to worry for Gabriel’s life, if not now, than sometime in the future, depending on how the rulings go. I mean if someone is so devious that they are willing to plot and plan all kinds of shenanigans to wrest the child away from the father wouldn’t stop at murder to get what they want. Of course said person wouldn’t do the dirty work themselves.
TG, I have said the same thing on here. And the scary thing is, every time Halle pulls one of her stunts and everyone has their suspicions and calls her out on it, it always turns out to actually be exactly what we thought — another convoluted attempt by Halle to restrict or permanently keep GA out of Nahla’s life. I hope this “prediction”, about his life possibly being in danger, doesn’t come true. I hope Halle has SOME scruples, but I would NOT bet on it. 🙁
Murder? Come on, now, that’s just too far and sounds less like speculation than wish fulfullment.
I might be speculating, but it is certainly not wish fulfillment on my part. Have you ever seen “Scorned” and some of those other shows on ID TV? People can be driven to a point, n their minds at least, where they make some really bad decisions. These groundless accusations and ping-ponging back and forth — just makes me uncomfortable.
They went into cvs to take her pic?
And do any of you ever wander around CVS with a big smile on your face?
Not unless they’ve got a big sale on hair products.
Only when I worked there, and it was required. 😉
There are ample examples of celebrities living within the United States with their children away from the spotlight or managing it better.
Demi Moore was at least as relevant and in our faces at the time she took her kids off to Idaho. The Jolie-Pitt crew seem to be able to manage. Yet Halle Berry is having soooo much trouble. There’s a reason for that and it has very little to do with her daughter.
But her fiance is a French citizen. Seriously, am I missing something. She’s requesting to move, but I haven’t heard her say anything about stripping his rights for visitation. I’ve said it three times, Gabe should make her buy him a place in maybe Canada or NY, enroll Nahla in that French school that has the same curriculum around the world, which is in NY if I’m not mistaken, and he would maintain all of his rights. I haven’t heard she’s trying to file for full French citizenship, strip him of his rights or anything like that. She wants permission to move, she thinks it’s safer (and technically it is pap wise) and her fiance lives there. Gabe should make her pay for everything. He keeps his place in CA and she pays for his place on the east coast for him and Nahla when she visits. She would most like travel with a nanny. Halle can afford it and I think she should do that for Gabe and Nahla.
This thread is very confusing. Everyone saying she’s crazy, but it’s not mentioned in the article she’s trying to strip him of visitation. Does anyone know for sure if that’s case?
I just don’t follow your reasoning. So everything should be about Halle? So the next relationship, if it is in say, Australia, then she should be able to move there with her precious Nahla, and of course provide a home for Gabriel? I don’t think so. What if he wants to move back to Canada? Shouldn’t he be able to take Nahla with him? And force Halle to fly back and forth? Why does everything revolve around Halle? You also are only seeing what you want because it is clearly documented that she has been making up lies and excuses to cut Gabriel out of Nahla’s life. This “engagement” is just a ruse. It is purely business as she told him herself, and us smart people on her knew anyway. If her first shenanigans had worked there would be no engagement and she would be sitting pretty in LA with Gabriel either completely cut out or severly restricted.
It isn’t as simple as buying him a house in Canada. If she moves to France, then whether he lives in Canada or California (I think he is living in LA to be close to Nahla), he would not be physically close to her. Nahla is far too young to be constantly on a long flight from France to California or Canada to see her. I believe he has the right to see her fairly frequently (at least weekly or more if I remember correctly. Are young going to have Nahla fly back and forth every week? And have child that young in two different schools, even if they have the same curriculums, is very disruptive for the child. The bottom line is that the child should be first the priority and part of that priority is that she be raised by both parents. There is no way her father can be present in her life if she is on one continent and he another. Your proposal benefits Halle only and not her child or her child’s father.
@Lena80- this is the latest in a long list of things Halle has done to try and remove GA from NAhla’s life.
She fired her last lawyer speculatively because he wasn’t able to make any of her previous attempts work. There was a report leaked a few months ago that she hired this particular lawyer because he will stop at nothing to get the result he wants ergo what she wants.
She went from describing GA as the best father a girl could have to a racist who puts their child in danger.
Every time an little incident has occurred, she’s gone to court and asked that his rights be restricted. The judge in each case has reviewed, social services have investigated and the verdict has always come out in GA’s favour.
It’s amazing that we all jokingly predicted that she would want to move to France as a tactic and lo and behold, here we are.
If none of the above had happened, and she decided to move to France, i am pretty sure we would all take your view.
Finally, all this started because GA went to court to have his parental rights officially recognised because she left him off the birth certificate.
Overall, she keeps dragging him to court and tried smearing his name whilst he is mostly defending his name and reputation, as well as trying to maintain the relationship with his daughter.
The tragedy in all of this is the child. May be GA is better at hiding his monster, but from outside looking into this very public battle, she seems to be the one who is less able to set her issues aside for the child.
Lena: I don’t think she’s trying to strip him of visitation in a legal sense, but moving to France certainly would affect it in a practical sense!
Th,
never said it should be about HB. everyone is saying she’s trying to strip him of his rights, BUT, it hads’t been mentioned. she wants to move, not strip Gabe of visitation. I’m not saying she’s perfect, they both are shady in my opinion, but I haven’t read she requested less rights for him as a father. besides that, HB isn’t leaving Hollywood anytime soon so I doubt she is filing for full citzenship. she would still be required to follow laws of CA, I think. That’s what I’m trying to figure out, people are saying she’s trying to when it hasn’t been reported as such.
She’s already tried to strip him of his rights.
Of course she is not going to say she is trying to strip him of his parental rights so that she can have absolute control and custody of Nahla, but her demands, actions, and accusations, and making GA jump thru hoops from their breakup till now, are an obvious attempt to do just that. Again, I hope the Judge is paying attention. But, I would not be surprised at all, if Halle filed a Motion to Recuse the Judge, if things don’t ultimately go her way.
Halle better think long and hard about the game she is playing. Nahla will not be a child for long, and when she comes to find out the truth she will to a certain degree resent her mother, thats a winning bet. Halle is thinking in short term and not the long term effects. I hope Oliver does not marry this selfish woman or even think about having a child with her, it would be biggest mistake of his life to have to deal with this woman for 18 yrs for the sake of your child, as G.A is now finding out. She needs intensive therapy before she engages in any kind of relationship. Issues doesnt even come close to describing this woman.
This woman brings crazy to a new level. You could not pay me to see one of her movies.
Very interesting. Just reading the comments and not one person says anything good about Hallie. Not one. That speaks volumes.
What a rabid cow. And lousy actress. Her oscar “win” shall forever remain a mystery. She was the worst actor in the movie.
hahhaa…rabid cow. I’m going to have to shoehorn that into a conversation this weekend 😀
Halle is demonically possessed. That’s the only explanation left.
IF she gets her way, I dont think she’ll stay away from the US long…
So Halle wants to move to France, so Nahla can feel safe.
But Olivier’s next movie will be shot in Morocco…
I wonder if she will put up with not seeing him for months on end, or if Nahla will stay with a nanny in France, or if Gabe will be called in again, like when Halle filmed with/met Olivier in… South Africa, I think.
God. Move to Kentucky. Or Oregon. Or NYC for f-ck sake
Total ass hat. Halle, that is.
This is all very transparent…and in the process she has lost a huge fan base due to her selfish behavior…I hope in the long run its all worth the damage she is doing. I don’t think I will ever be able to watch another one of her movies.
If you based your opinion on someone’s career on their selfish behaviour it would be hard to go to a movie, listen to music, watch TV or generally leave the house for any reason with all the crap people do to each other on a daily basis. You might as well bolt the door and and pull the covers over your head!
Gabriel got with Halle knowing full well she was high maintenance and he did it anyway. That said, Halle picked Gabriel as her baby daddy so she’s got to grow herself up and deal with him so that they can coparent in a way that makes sense for everyone.(with the kind of money they have, you have options-lots of them)
It would be nice if Halle remembered that she chose her daughters father and that her job as a parent is to make sure nahala’s relationship with her father is a good one. If you have a father who wants to be involved-let him be involved.
If you based your opinion of someone’s career on their selfish behaviour it would be hard to go to a movie, listen to music, watch TV or generally leave the house for any reason with all the crap people do to each other on a daily basis. You might as well bolt the door and and pull the covers over your head!
Gabriel got with Halle knowing full well she was high maintenance and he did it anyway. That said, Halle picked Gabriel as her baby daddy so she’s got to grow herself up and deal with him so that they can coparent in a way that makes sense for everyone.(with the kind of money they have, you have options-lots of them)
It would be nice if Halle remembered that she chose her daughters father and that her job as a parent is to make sure nahala’s relationship with her father is a good one. If you have a father who wants to be involved-let him be involved.
Sorry didn’t mean to post twice-I’m having issues with my phone ugh
That’s OK; it was a good post!
The problem is, from her actions, I don’t think Halle is capable of compromise or considering anyone else’s point of view, rights or thoughts. It’s about control, and it’s her way or the highway. Hey, she’s beautiful, rich, a star, and everyone gave her a pass, or sided with her, for the car accidents and the “horrible, abusive men” problems. So why wouldn’t she assume she’ll prevail this time, too?
Maybe I missed something, but if that pap was so over the line, why didn’t she file charges or something against him? Or did she? Because that’s a question I can see a lawyer asking. And, if the paps are so bad what are all the precautions have you taken? Wouldn’t it be incumbent upon her to PROVE that she’s done all she can? I would think that show with the pap wouldn’t be enough int he court of law.
And I wonder what a lawyer would make of Harvey Levin’s relationship with Halle, in terms of source, proximity, etc. If she’s courting favour, wouldnt’ that work against her arguement?
I can’t stand TMZ. Harvey and Mike are the worst.
Now I believe you can buy tmz & Harvey for the right money
I read in another website how tmz is fake in a way and this article proofs it to me.
This is quite possibly the most cold blooded and selfish woman I’ve ever seen. She would deprive her child of the father just so she doesn’t have to deal with him? And this set up? Does she really believe everyone will believe her or does she just know she can buy judges off?
It’s funny how people are so quick to blast Halle for manipulating the press to her advantage when their beloved Angelina Jolie is a master at that. Even setting up photo ops with her children whenever something comes out about her that isn’t good for her image.
Gimme a break…
People aren’t flogging Halle because she’s manipulating the press; people are ticked off because she’s using the paps as just another implement in the service of removing Nahla’s father from the picture.
Since Angelina isn’t trying to get rid of Brad Pitt so she can have all of the kids to herself, I think that bringing up Angelina is a desperate diversion tactic.
NO what’s funny is how you pull Angelina and her children into a topic that has nothing to do with them. And for the record Angie and Brad’s kids are probably more sought after and yet photographed less than most other children. Seriously So if Angie and Brad go out and get a picture taken they are pimping their kids. So according to you they are not allowed to go any where or do anything in public because you don’t like it.
YOUR hate just shows how people like you need to get some help.
Stick to the topic. And Angie is not the topic. And wow you really reached to bring her into this.
Well stated, pwal and lisa.
I don’t get the statement by Levin that Halle gets papped more than any other celeb. What are they doing with those pictures. We don’t see Halle on the cover of tabloids every week. And I highly doubt a photo of her or her daughter is going to garner the pap a lot of money.
I completely understand her being upset that they were at Nahla’s school. It is disgusting that grown ass men are stalking children. But her reaction was over the top. All the profanity at the school around other children and parents who were there picking up their children too.
There are celebs that are stalked way more than Halle. Celebs that pictures of them and their children would bring huge sums of money. Yet you never see them acting this way. So I think she should handle this better. Making an agreement where she gets 3 months with Nahla and Gabe gets 3 or 6 months each.. something because this whole thing crossed a line a long time ago.
Navy blue, Halle is manipulating the media so she can erase GA from her daughters life, that’s where peoples anger come in. She gushed to Oprah about their relationship and how when she first told gab when she was expecting, and how he was happy an how he made her feel. Then the relationship ends and he is this, this and this. She and her nanny conjured stories to taint his character as a good father. You want to compare Halle likeness to someone, here’s a name LEANN RIMES. Narcissistic, manipulative, controlling , cold, calculating and needs mental help. When Eddie leaves that horse, after her public breakdown if she is not behind bars for abducting him, or worse, if she eventually moves on with someone else and if her and Eddie had a child together she will pull a major Halle, erase the fathers rights and go for full custody. Psycho style.
It’s amazing to me that of all the gorgeous women he’s bedded, Olivier Martinez wants to settle down with this nutjob.
The way she’s treating her ex should give him pause, at the very least.
Perhaps a last ditch effort to jumpstart his non-existent Hollywood career with years of celebrity-couple media coverage? What with her Oscar, Halle Berry is still pretty A-list.
when I first heard about this issue with the paps…I figured she was trying to set up some way to use it for custody reasons.
she’s completely nuts!!!! gabriel should try for full custody. halle will probably end up abusing the child anyway – just on the basis that she resembles her father. the court should make an example of her!!
LA County courts are not the best at “making examples” of the famous (notorious, whatever), in case you hadn’t noticed.
Oh, how I wish things were different! Because that child definitely needs her own advocate. Her mother is nucking futz.
Hey, o. bellaluna, don’t be too disheartened. I know I’m going out on a limb here, but after watching quite a bit of the Spector and Murray Trials on TV, I really felt the Courtrooms were in capable hands (way better than I’d expected, considering past catastrophes and incidents in other states). I hope the rest of the Judges in LA County are of that caliber and decide this to the benefit of Nahla. And if need be, that Halle can stick to a decision that’s possibly not to her liking. JMHO.
@MW – Your point about HB sticking to a judge’s order is key because it was reported that she changed lawyers to one who goes to extreme lengths to get his clients wishes fulfilled – legally of course. Her new lawyer was appointed after judge removed all restrictions on GA. So a staged pap rage isn’t too far fetched if the guy’s reputation is true.
MW – Oh how I hope that’s true. I just hope the judge (and CFS) see through her BS. I wouldn’t put it past her to not follow a judge’s orders and do what she feels serves her best.
Yay to us who saw right through her right from the ‘one drop theory’ statement and the racism allegation and recently d allegations that he is violent,Nahla is scared of him and he hit the nanny.
Needless to say,by d time she was yelling at d paps we had ceased to be taken in by her shenanigans.And now she plays true to our predictions.
Come on people what does she have to do next for those still supporting her to accept she’s crazy and vindictive.Read my lips SHE-WILL-STOP-AT-NOTHING.NOTHING I tell u.
If dis doesn’t pan out expect another try.