We heard early last month that Halle Berry’s ex, Gabriel Aubry, had gone to court requesting a whopping $20,000 a month from Halle in child support. The former couple has one daughter, Nahla, four, and has been involved in a bitter ongoing custody battle. Halle has been working to cut Gabriel out of Nahla’s life, and is hoping to move to France with the girl. Gabriel has fought for his parental rights at every step of the way. Back when Gabriel first filed for child support, his request was postponed as he didn’t have the right paperwork in order. Well apparently he’s gotten all that sorted, because now he’s about to get paid the amount he was looking for. This is their first child support agreement. Here’s more:
Some of Halle Berry’s “New Year’s Eve” money will be going to baby daddy Gabriel Aubry, because a judge has just ordered the actress to shell out nearly a quarter of a million bucks a year in child support.
Lawyers for Halle and Gabriel were in court Monday, and sources connected with Gabriel tell TMZ … the family law judge ordered Halle to pay Nahla’s daddy $20,000 a month.
Although Nahla is 4, until Monday there was never a child support order issued by a judge, but now one is in place.
We’re told both sides are still at war, and they will soon be battling in court over whether Halle can take Nahla and move to Paris.
[From TMZ]
I watched TMZ live to get a better understanding of this, and there’s no word as to whether this is retroactive, meaning whether Halle would have to pay $20k a month from the time of the split. Halle’s net worth is estimated at $70 million while Gabriel’s is a relatively “meager” (by that comparison) $4.5 million.
A woman called in to TMZ live and kind of explained this whole thing well, including what it means for Halle’s plans. She said:
“I don’t think it matters. It’s going to be setting her up for when the judge orders that [Halle] can take the child to France, as is her end game. Then they’ll fight over who has to pay for the visitation… it’s fine that she has to pay, it’s a numbers game: time spent with the child and income.
“It’s going to make it so much easier for the judge to say ‘yes, you can move to France.’ Then they’ll argue about the flights… I just think it’s setting her up for the move.”
TMZ’s Harvey Levin agreed and that was it. He should know, he’s a lawyer and his team has been getting updates straight from Halle’s people. She’ll grumble and pay the money but she still expects to get her way.
Halle has got to pissed that she’s going to owe a ton of money in child support, but it’s not going to stop her. She’ll keep on going until she gets to France. And then her relationship with Olivier will probably fall apart. I’m just going on her past history with men, which isn’t good.
In these photos Halle is shown carrying a collage that Nahla made for school. The Daily Mail explains what it is:
“The actress carried a colourful collage called ‘All About Nahla’, on which the four-year-old wrote about how she wants a baby sister, a bunk bed and to be a ballerina. The watercolour collage poignantly featured a photo of Nahla’s father, Gabriel, pictured with Halle and their little girl before the couple’s split.” Sad, right?
Halle is shown out alone on 6-19-12. She’s shown with Nahla on 5-16-12. Gabriel is shown alone on 6-20-12 and with Nahla on 3-22-12. Credit: WENN.com
This worries me, it wasn’t what I had expected.
How is this setting up Halle to up her chances, and actually take Nahla permanently to France???
I think it means that Gabriel will have the money to relocate or pay for flights to visit. Sad either way you look at it since in the end that little girl will be the one to pay.
Obviously, TMZ’s assessment was pretty-much one sided. Hey Harvey, you lose a lot of credibility as a “lawyer” when you don’t equally cover both sides.
So Gabriel will have to relocate, he WILL STILL have 20k a month in Child support?
Sorry, but I am not very familiar with child support cases, and how American law, or in this case more accurately, California law, would be applied if indeed Halle moves to France and MARRIES a Frenchmen.
Wouldn’t she automatically then be allowed to apply for citizenship, for her AND her daughter? Thus affecting American-based child support agreements..??
Yep, this sounds like it will make it easier for Halle to move to France. Actually, at this point I kinda hope she does. I hope she relocates there, thinking she’ll find God-knows what amazing paradise on Earth, and then discover that all her problems are still there, that she doesn’t get along with Olivier, that Nhala misses her dad, that she still has an immense baggage to deal with.
Even better, I hope Aubry relocates to France, too. He’s a model, after all: Paris should be a good town for him.
Then Nhala would still have lots of possibilities to be with her dad while her crazy-mommy has her melt-downs and screaming-fights.
Rocket-I agree and she will also see that Gab won’t be abandoning his daughter just because she’s a country away. There is NOTHING she can do to keep him from his daughter-he won’t give her up so she can play house with someone else who will put up with her crazy ass.
I don’t believe for one second the move to France has anything to do with Nahla being safe from papps taking her picture. Halle isn’t that big of a star here. And her being photographed screaming at some photographer not long ago was much too conveniently timed to be believable.
There are others that are much more famous than she and they aren’t moving to France. It is a smoke screen to be with her boyfriend and make her ex’s life hell in the process.
This never even came up until Gabriel won in court on something, I don’t remember what it was there has been so many trips to the courthouse.
I don’t know the law, but how could see using some of the $20 a month to pay for travel/accommodations to France for him be OK. That isn’t really spending the money on Nahla, even though would be using it to visit her.
I can see her taking him to court for using that money to pay his way to France.
I understand separated parents commonly move to different states with their children, but most of the time, for employment purposes… Or getting married…
Would Halle have to prove that she would be much more employable in France than in the US… But getting married, no one has ever to prove that, right?
In most cases, moving from one state to another far away, unless you have sole physical & legal custody (or are rich), isn’t the easiest thing to do if they other parents protests and fights you in court. There have been some issues with some states not honoring custody agreements from other states but none of those issues have been as troublesome as when a parent takes the child to another country that is unlikely to abide by a US custody agreement. We’ve seen this issue multiple times in recent history in which the new country will even acknowledge that a parent violated a US custody agreement and, essentially kidnapped the child, but still allows that parent to keep that child away from the other parent. Heck, how long did it take David Goldman to regain access to his son Sean even after the child’s mother died? Goldman had to fight the mother’s family and the mother’s new husband for years.
I hope to G-d that the judge acts in the best interest of Nahla and does not allow Berry to move her out of the country (unless she wants to move her to Canada to which Aubry might agree and where he would have a fighting chance in the courts).
^ +333
I don’t know though if Nahla has double nationality (Canadian/US).
Thanks for the explanation OlCranky! Basically, this means if the judge allows Berry to move away, Gabriel would be all shades of f-cked…
But! If Nahla has also Canadian Nationality, and seeing how France has strong ties with the Province of Québec (where from Gabriel hails), Gabriel would easily be able to get access to his daughter, or force Berry’s hand into going back to court, to get a new custody hearing…
Hmmm?
I thought support payments usually went to the parent with primary custody. At least that is what happened in my parents divorce.
That’s what I thought, too. I must not understand how things work because if it’s not a matter of primary custody I’m not sure how they sort these things out.
It’s bribe money. He went for her pocketbook perhaps thinking she might rethink things. As if. So now it’s basically money to shut him up against her taking the wee one to France. Yes, she might be able to get French citizenship if she married whatshisface, but she doesn’t necessarily have to give up her American citizenship.
I believe they have joint physical and legal custody which, theoretically, is equal. In that case, since there is a huge discrepancy in the financials and the courts expect that the child will have the same standard of living regardless of which parent they are with, the courts are making provision to ensure Nahla’s standard of living is maintained
that hairstyle is not helping her image of being crazy.
Hahaha! 😀
It is a bit “Sideshow Bob” isn’t it?
totes Kimble! muahahaha
That’s what I thought when I heard this yesterday; that he’s going to need that amount of money to fly back and forth internationally to see his daughter.
I just don’t see any judge letting Crazy as hell Berry take Nahla to France tbh.
As soon Halle moves to France she can kiss her career goodbye cause she will no longer will be dubbed an A-list actress, not even sure if she’s that now.
I still dont think this is a slam dunk for her moving to France. Stay tuned…
Is she even still A-List? She is A-List off the back of her Oscar, beauty and money but as far as the industry right now she hasn’t been in a decent major film for a good few years just budget crap.
Did living in France all those years ruin Johnny Depp’s appeal in Hollywood?
From what I understand, any actor or actress who wins an Oscar is permanaent A List….not that I agree when it comes to her. She played a messed up crazy ass mother for that Oscar….wasn’t much of a stretch for her.
@Emma, I think Johnny Depp works with the same director, Tim Burton, for many of his movies, whom he has had a special relationship with since Edward Scissorhands. I don’t think that is a good comparison.
CA judges are starf*ckers. He’ll let her do whatever the hell she wants. He’ll get a book deal, a show, some time on TV, he’ll be a big cheese for 15mins. Or she. I don’t know what sex the judge is.
This woman is beyond despicable, trying to keep her child away from her father, who wants to be in her life. She’s beyond stupid.
It’s the least he deserves after what she put him through. Dragging him through the courts, bad mouthing him to the press. I think it’s terrible and that poor little girl when she realises all of this when she’s older. That her Daddy fought hard to keep her in his life with NO help from her Mommy. I don’t think he would have asked for this if she hadn’t dragged him through the mud so much and tried to take his daughter from him.
i completely agree.
Yep. Halle is going to get a huge wake up call when her daughter grows up and turns on her. Halle better hope that Nahla hasn’t inherited her b*tch gene.
I agree. She probably threatened to bankrupt him somewhere along the line in order to “get her way” (and her 70 million is going to eventually outlast his 4.5 million, if she refuses to stop with the Court battle). This 20K a month will ensure that he can continue to fight for Nahla on a more even playing (fighting) field – or travel, if it comes to that, or provide whatever security etc. for Nahla that Halle requires. Whatever reasoning GA presented, THE COURT AGREED with him. I do not think this has a thing to do with Halle moving to France, nor do I think GA would accept a “bribe” of any type when it comes to Nahla’s custody and care. And I am so glad GA’s net worth was mentioned. Now all the nasty people saying “get a job!! – he only wants Halle’s money!!”‘ can STFU. Earning as much $ as he has, especially by age 34-ish, is very respectable for anyone. He is obviously not broke, leaching off of Halle, or NOT not working!
It’s called karma , she has done everything to try and keep Nahla away from Her own father , push him out of her life and it’s just down right nasty.Far as I’m concerned Money talks. And no one would be up in arms if this was a man paying a woman.
The last pic is tugging at my heart.
Oh I agree! It’s so obvious how much he loves his little girl, Halle is just a bitch! Any other woman would love to have the dad that interested in staying/being that involved in their children’s lives, no matter how toxic their relationship with each other was in the end.
Me too! You can’t just judge because of photos, but with Gabriel Nahla always looks comfortable and happy, with Halle not so much…like I said, that doesn’t mean she has a bad relationship with Halle, but it’s pretty conspicuous.
I am not remotely convinced that Halle is going to get her way.
I realize that TMZ has been three feet up Halle’s butt this whole time. But there is something that seems off to me with Halle’s argument.
It has been proven many times. If you want to avoid the paparazzi in LA, it can be done.
Halle manage to not have Nahla photograph for nearly a year after she was born. Then she set up the family friendly photo op at the Zoo. Those were the first legit photo’s of Nahla.
Yet, now she can’t avoid them? I am going to have to call bullsh*t on that argument.
AGREE!
Hautie…Halle’s antics, in public anyway, have shown her to be bat shit crazy! I feel for Nahla, or any other child that a grown up uses for there own selfish devices.
I will say though, that every single picture I have seen with Nahla and either Halle or Gabriel that little girl looks happy and content to be with them.
I agree. I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as Gabriel now has the ability to fly to France. The issue still is the unnecessary separation of father and child.
Halle could make changes to her own life in LA to ensure Nahla’s safety. She doesn’t have to flee to France. Move to an exclusive subdivision with a private beach. Hire a body guard to accompany her & Nahla when they are out. She won’t do any of those things. If my kid was in as much danger as Halle alleges & I had the means to provide protection, I would in a heartbeat.
So Crazy girl has to shell out $20,000 grand a month to Gabriel- ?
Anyone know how much Hal shells out each month on Oliver?
hahahahahaha & haha!
O Mia – I said basically the same thing on one of these previous threads.
If she has $70M at her disposal, there are certainly less dramatic and more financially feasible ways to “protect” her daughter than by ripping her away from her beloved father and moving her to a foreign county!
If you read the italicised quote on top of the first photo about a collage Nahla made for school, the photos of Halle picking her up that day are on another website, and of course Halle had the collage visible so the paps could see it. For someone who claims she wants her privacy, I thought that was a very odd move.
Co-sign!
No no need to ponder “buying” anything Halle says or does. Halle just wants HER WAY, but tries to baffle everyone with all kinds of BS. The bottom line is, she wants Nahla all to herself, give her a new daddy (at the moment) and wants GA to bug off. But Halle miscalculated GA. No way in Hell is GA going to give up on, or abandon his daughter. Too bad Halle can’t calm down and think, and just share custody. Next, she might want to pat herself on the back, and be thrilled that she (accidentally) picked such a great human being as the father of her only child! Maybe she could also concede that if Halle’s dad was as bad as she says he was (which I seriously doubt now) that does not mean ALL men are.
If she’s doing all of this to keep Nahla from Gabriel, it will backfire one way or another. What happens when her relationship with Olivier implodes?
Exactly! She never expressed interest in protecting her child from the paps before. She just wants to be with Olivier. She’ll come running back when he dumps her, then drag Gabriel back to court to stop the support checks.
Embrassing… for a father to be paid to take care of his own child.
That’s ridiculous…no more shameful than a mother needing “child support”….stop with the stereotypes!
He will need the money to fly back and forth to France to see his little girl and stay in her life…much to the chagrin of Halle! ahhahahahahaha
Okay, before we start crucifying people it’s only fair to acknowledge that we’re used to seeing the primary custodian receive the support and we’re brought up to believe that the mother is the default, right or wrong. It’s not necessarily fair, but there you go.
Housing expenses strikes me as the main contributor to the dollar amount, but I don’t know.
If this was a female who made less money… you would be all for “getting that cash!”….. but as a man he deserves nothing? Interesting.
I have wonder if getting the child support payment, was a back door way to prove he has rights to the daughter in the courts eyes.
Since Halle made sure to not place his name on Nahla’s birth certificate.
True
How did she make sure he didn’t sign the birth certificate? I’m genuinely asking. Was he not present for the birth? And why didn’t he file the proper paperwork to be placed on the certificate during the 2-3 yrs they were together?
@lena80 – The relationship was for 5 years. Nahla was born in the final 18months of it. It appears that all their arrangements prior to the separation and immediately after it were gentleman’s agreement made in good faith. Per your suggestion, GA went to court to put his name on the certificate and to formalise his parental rights. That was when hell AKA Halle was unleashed. She’s fought him every step of the way and dragged him to court to try and strip him of any rights he may have. That’s why we are not on board with this move to France. It’s another tactic on her part.
I 1000% agree with you . I thought he was a Model or something .
according to male model Grandy- the male models do not make as much money as female models.
Although $4mil a year is nothing to b!t@h about!
Grandy was recently complaining of the unequal treatment & pay for male models- boo hoo I am not crying for you!
Welcome to the real world where women are paid 23cents less per dollar to a man’s pay regardless of comparable education & skills.
Modelling is the only industry where men make waaaay less than men. even if they are top of their game. The only male model to make serious money was Marcus Schenkenberg primarily because he was the preffered model for Herb Ritts.
http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Marcus+Schenkenberg/9th+Annual+Dressed+Kilt+Charity+Fashion+Show/FUIY6Evye6i
RIDICULOUS. Child support is exactly that and if the situation were reversed you would say exactly the same? That a mother shouldn’t be paid to take care of her own child?
Of course you wouldn’t, because your point is totally sexist.
There is nothing ridiculous about HIS request. Halle wants to move and he needs to be able to keep up with Nahla’s lifestyle that she would have in France. This lets us know that Gabe probably wasn’t too upset her move, he was upset about the expenses that came along with it. He wouldn’t have submitted a child support request otherwise and I think it’s fair for her to pay him. He will probably get a place on the East Coast somewhere and will need cost of living, traveling expenses, etc.
If the couple is unmarried, the father has to sign off on being the father named on the birth certificate.
He would never be allowed to do that without either Halle’s permission or thru the courts after a paternity test.
California is a 50/50 state so whoever earns the most is the one that pays child support. The courts ruled that a child is entitled to an equal standard of living in both parent’s homes. If the father had the higher earnings he would pay the muther.
This law has been in effect for over 20 years with many female celebs paying child support to exes, difference is that the public did not hear about it.
Thank you OXO. Besides, we do not know what standard of living requirements Halle demands of GA when Nahla is living with her dad. And Halle could be causing GA to incur over-the-top expenses on Nahala’s behalf, just to cause HIM some financial grief. GA is obviously not broke, but he is not on the same level as Halle, financially. The bottom line is though, it must have been a reasonable request, as the Judge AGREED. AND, the Judge is not speculating, like we are. HE KNOWS ALL THE FACTS.
I soooo agree. he is a whiny bitch and a contentious a..hole if you ask me.
That collage story is heartbreaking. All she wants is a baby sister and her mom and dad.
Is it true that he was given more than he asked?
Not unless the order was made retroactive. He asked for, and was granted, $20K per month.
It’s not setting her up for the move. Her only reason to move to France is the paps. There’s plenty of places to live other than LA in California. She acts like she has no other choices in America. The judge isn’t an idiot. He isn’t going to let her take the child so far away from the father for a see-through reason like she’s giving.
You would think. But then again look at all of the rulings of the non-idiot judges in Lilio’s cases….
As a woman that has brothers with children. I don’t get women. They whine and complain when the father is not in the lives of their children. Then when you get a man that wants to be in the child’s life and actually help you in raising her then the woman fights to take the child out of his life.
There are men that don’t do squat. Some of them are married and living in the home and they don’t help with their children.. and here is GA.
SMDH..Shaking my damn head..
Because despite the blather women like that spew about it being all about the kids, it’s really not, it’s all about what the woman wants. (That of course only applies to the type of woman you were talking about, not decent parents. But not every mom is a saint.)
I hope she isn’t allowed to move the kid halfway around the world. If she is, I hope Gabriel takes that $20K/month and finds a nice little apartment right down the street from her. It’s gross that Halle is trying to keep their daughter from him. If she wanted a kid all to herself, she should have had one by other means or adopted – she chose to have a child with Gabriel, he’s there for 18 years.
I bet Halle wishes she would have just gone with a sperm donor right about now.
Anyone else think she’s baking a little frenchie in the oven? Loose tops and Nahla’s drawing of a little sister??
That is so not going to end well.
I highly doubt that Halle is pregnant. She has diabetes, and she’s 45 years old. It’s possible, but its not advisable. I don’t think she would risk it. She’s focused on Nahla (for better or worse).
I read that somewhere. TMZ probably.
Well the money should go to the upkeep(caring) for her child so in theory that good. Off subject a little ,Gabriel is so F-ing Hot but a little Crazy on his own .
I’m still confused at why so many people HATE Halle so much . I really like her . I think she is a wonderful lady and a wonderful role model . Just because she has man trouble is not a reason to hate her , what girl hasn’t .
Role model??? For what? How to NOT handle a custody battle… Since when is publicly smearing your baby-daddy with libelous and racist accusations and trying to destroy your daughter’s relationship with her father a sign of a “good role model” – the woman is unhinged. She’s also got a history of violent behavior.
I don’t want my daughters to turn out like her.
I used to be a fan until the blatant custody tactics and smearing of the father of her child.
I agree Stacie. I still really like her too.
She has two hit and runs to her credit in addition to all of the crazy narcissistic manipulations regarding her daughter’s relationship with her father.
Some role model…
…Wow. What?!! Role model??! For what??
How about you aim a little higher.
I think it’s pretty despicable to take a child thousands of miles away from the father, when by all accounts the father has been loving, 100% hands-on, and very much present in the child’s life. it’s one thing if the dad is a deadbeat who doesn’t care about seeing the child or making an effort. But I think that parents should be required to live within a certain distance of each other (barring any really substantial issues like military deployment or a career move that cannot be changed no matter what).
I called this on the last post. Halle is going to be allowed to move to France and Gabe will get child support to be able to keep a place possibly on the East coast so the flights are shorter etc. Don’t these to have joint custody currently? Seems to me that Gabe putting in a request for child support means he isn’t overly upset about her move to France, he was upset because he didn’t want to OR couldn’t keep up with the expenses that come along with her request and Halle was trying to fight him on his child support request and other demands. Now she has to pay him so he is able to care for Nahla properly which she should, $20,000 with her salary, endorsements, etc. is a drop in the bucket for her.
“I think she is a wonderful lady and a wonderful role model.” Yep, for those that belong to the People with Narcissistic Personality Disorder society.
I somehow doubt her remaining eggs will manifest another baby….getting a bit long in the tooth there Halle….. a few more years and no one is going to be bothering you any longer…trust me, this too shall pass. be a good person and do the BEST for your daugher, NOT for your own selfish needs. A dad who loves his daughter ?. and she wants to separate them?.. she is certifiable…..
I don’t understand the hatred; it’s her child and she is free to move where she wants to live. If she has to pay for the father to fly back and forth, so what? It is clear from all of the photos that I have seen, that they are both devoted to the little girl. BTW, Halle explained that the hairdo is for a role, not by choice.
She’s not filming anything at the moment. She liked the wig enough to wear it again when she stopped filming.
Nahla’s his child too. It’s not like he’s been fighting to rip Nahla out of her settled little life to move her back to his native Canada, now is it?
Actually, it is THEIR child, & she cannot just up & move THEIR child wherever she wants, hence why they are in court.
If she only wanted a child that was solely her’s, then she should have hit up a sperm bank or a dirt bag that could give 2 craps.
You know, flying back and forth from LA to France is not like a 2 hrs drive. Why should he have to spend 2 days worth of travel time to see HIS daughter? Is it reasonable to expect him to make that trip every other weekend to see her?
Wow… thank you! I’ve been reading these posts, amazed that people keep saying he can use that ‘support money’ to travel to France for visits… what??
First of all, I don’t think that the support money has ANYTHING to do with Halle being granted permission to move.
Second, even if that were what the money was for, do people really think as long as he has the money to travel that it would make it okay? Given they have EQUAL custody, can anyone imagine the time it would take for travel alone, to be able to see his daughter as often as he should be able to? NOT OKAY. He would have time for nothing else… travel… see daughter, travel, repeat. No reason he should have to move to France either… especially given the fact that the custody agreement may not even be honored there!
I do no think the 20K has anything to do with France either. GA earns $30,000 a DAY modeling. He probably has to decline all kinds of jobs to be there for Nahla’s visitation times and you can bet Halle isn’t going to give him a break, or an overnight visit with Nahla to make his life any easier. (And for the people who think he does not work at all, he is part of the past, present and future Hugo Boss campaigns, at the very least, right now). This money from Halle is actually less than a day’s pay that he is missing out on, which he could be spending on his daughter if he wasn’t so confined as far as work, by Halle’s demands. He deserves it.
Do you think Halle speaks French? Olivier and the French people do. Gabriel does, I’m sure. He probably taught Nahla. Halle will think everyone around her is talking about her. Someone should put that bug in her ear. *grins*
If Halle is allowed to move Nahla to France, my biggest problem with that (second to her ripping Nahla away from her Daddy and everything she’s ever known) is that WE KNOW this Olivier thing isn’t going to work out.
So Halle will get there with Nahla; there will be no wedding; she’ll bring out The Crazy; and in a year or two Olivier will be out of the picture.
Then what? Will she decide she wants to come “back home” and rip Nahla out of her new life, just as she’s getting settled into it? Or stay in France for spite?
The evil bitch in me hopes Gabe moves to France, and then if Halle decides to move “back home,” he and Nahla decide to stay in France.
Plus how long was Oliver with Kylie Minoque, like forever…engaged and then POP they broke up. This is going to end horribly bad for Halle. That is not to say I feel sorry for her, cuz I don’t. But there is something to be said about her background with her father allegedly being absent in her formative year. Plus all the drama from her past husbands. Who knows what happened when she was growing up with her mother…I am sure it was drenched in drama, for sure. Its clear that girlfriend doesn’t need a lover, husband whatever…she needs a really good therapist and work out her damn issues
I don’t get it. If everyone stopped coupling because the prospective partner broke up with someone in the past there’s be nothing on this planet but moss and mould.
Not that I’d have a problem with that.
i hate halle i think she have problem
because she only want her way but if you live with some one and think money can buy everything you wrong some day that french man will finish with her olivier it single man he have date with lot of beautiful girl so i don,t think he love her
Halle believes her child is in danger so imho it makes sense for the father of the child to be able to provide the same kind of security and safety as Halle does for her child. If the child is at risk with Halle, then she is doubly at risk with a father who does not have the same means of protection, therefore Halle has to pay so that Gabe can provide the same amount of protection for his daughter.
Gabriel it good man and good papa also he don,t care about halle money that why she so angry with him when they finish but she have to think if she want hurt him she hurt her baby more
OK, one more time: Nahla is entitled to live with BOTH custodial parents (they have 50/50 custody) in the manner to which she’s been accustomed. So if she’s been raised in an expensive home and is used to eating caviar for breakfast and jet-setting off on exotic vacations, Nahla is entitled to continue that existence, NO MATTER WHICH PARENT HAS CUSTODY AT THE TIME. (See, it’s designed that way to level the playing field, as it were. If you lived in a mansion and got to take lots of vacations, would you really be chomping at the bit to go hang-out in Dad’s 2 bedroom 1 bath apartment in the Valley? NO. Didn’t think so.)
Thus, the high amount of support. It’s NOT spousal or palimony, it’s CHILD SUPPORT. Gabe is NOT “being paid to take care of his own child.” That money is for him to maintain Nahla’s lifestyle, no matter how ridiculous anyone may think that is.
p.s. – It’s called “DISSO Master.” It’s a computer thing into which all the financial info of both parties is fed, and it comes up with a number; family law attorneys have them. You don’t really think a judge just pulled a number out his butt, do you?
Don’t get mad… Get GLAD… 😉
I know, I know, cut the fromage M.
No, M, I know. It just gets so TIRING repeating the same thing…do people not read others’ comments? 😉
How you doing’ today chiquita banana?
Mag, I have a summer cold-type thing going on – I can feel my pulse in my face. But other than that, I’m good! You, Hornita Maguita? 🙂
Not today dear, I have a headache.
Take care of that cold, it is more miserable during blistering heat!
I may just cut & paste your comment & post it to other boards where I see “he’s nothing but a gold digger”. So irritating to see ridiculous talk like that.
O Mia – Please, feel free! 😀 Yesterday everyone was all #getthatmoneygurl about Vanessa when talking about her possible settlement from Johnny, but Gabriel’s getting soundly trashed, and I think it’s bullshit.
Keep repeating your info. It is spot on. Actually, Dissomaster is the name of a computer program used to calculate child support. IN CALIFORNIA, CHILD SUPPORT IS DETERMINED BY A MATHEMATICAL FORMULA. End of story. The figures input reflect earnings and percentage time of custody/visitation among other things. It is relatively straightforward.
Thanks, HannahF. It just gets SO. EXHAUSTING. It seems to me that people who are all “Yeah, SHE put up with his shit; get that money!” should apply the same theory here.
I mean, it’s not like their income is even CLOSE to comparable. Liken it to a woman who works a part-time low-paying job who has to provide her child(ren) the lifestyle of, say, her executive-level soon-to-be ex-husband: it’s a no-brainer. I think what puts off the regular Joes and Janes is the sheer amount of money involved. Most every-day people (except the 1% and those who’ve been around them) don’t realise the level of expenses surrounding these people and their lifestyles.
(Do people read this stuff or just gloss over what doesn’t fit with their opinion? Because I’m getting weary. It’s like posting on the abuse threads for those too thick-headed to understand.)
You always have a way of bringing these matters into such clear, sharp focus, thanks bella. I, for one, am very happy to know Halle has to pay this money to Aubry – it’s only fair, and hope it’s retro too.
Sympathies on the cold and Maguita on the headache – I’ve got one bitch of a chest/sinus cold myself blech. Hope life is treating you okay bella… I’m thinking of you girl.
Thanks, skuddles, for EVERYTHING you said. (I’m okay.) Mum’s been in family law in SoCali all my life, and I’ve learned a thing or two from her (DissoMaster included), as well as from my own experiences in the family law court system.
Bottom line: NAHLA DESERVES IT!! Halle initiated this mess; she can pay for it.
I’m glad to hear you’re doing okay bella – I know your strength and your smarts will see you through. That’s great, by the way, about your Mom having an extensive background in family law!
I’m always here, planted firmly in your court ♥
Aaah, Skuddles, you’re always full of Skittles sweetness!
My headache is gone, but for the Hornita Maguita… I’m just not that in the mood today.
Could see Joe Big Pasta’s linguine, and go, eh. No.
Bella, the private big bad… Hope it’s getting better?
It seems like all her movies tank, whether they’re big budget or not. But she has endorsements and her own shoe line, so she’ll never be poor.
I’ve always heard that she is conservative with her money. So unlike some stars who get millions of dollars and lose it, she invests, she has endorsements and she leads a good but not overly extravagant lifestyle.
She should have to pay him just for putting up with psycho ass for so long.
Interesting to see how this story plays out on ‘urban’ blogs–verrrrry different interpretations and loyalties.
O.J. The Simpson, Part The Second. This is getting really ugly, but it’s hard not to look.
I’m Soooo glad she must pay Gabriel $20K in child support :- )) Now about moving to France. I think she could divide her time between both places if she wishes. I would really hate to see the child kept away from her father permanently, with the exception of seasonal holidays, etc. I question whether Halle is really in fear of her life, more likely she wants to take her child away from the father. If she is allowed to remove the child to another country, there would be no need for the $20K monthly child support, right? I think the child should only be moved if the father agrees to it; otherwise, Halle must maintain her residence here, or split her time going back and forth from France to the U.S.
I hope she won’t be allowed to take Nahla with her to France! Halle is just nasty, who does she think she is? It doesn’t matter how your relationship with your ex looks like, he is Nahla’s father you bats*** crazy woman.
I’m going through something similar, and this is what the court did with us:
1. courts are stressing ‘equal parenting’, with equal time.
2. In the event one parent relocates further than 60 miles away, the parent that remains, in majority of the cases, wins full custody of the child (in terms of child support).
The relocating parent still has equal custody for the year.
So in effect, if Gabriel fights for this, He would win custody (and child support) for the school year in the US, and Hallee would have custody for school vacations and summer vacations.
3. Holidays would be split up equally through a court-appointed GAL (if they cannot agree). Any disputes would be monitored by GAL, who sends report to the court.
4. Moving out of the country is tough, as Gabriel has 50% rights no to sign his minor’s passport. Meaning Hallee cannot take the child out of the country without his permission. Nor can she apply for french citizenship fir Nahla without the fathers consent.
This all assumes no parent is guilty of abuse, drugs, criminal record, etc.
Of course, Hollywood is different, and the fact that Halle is rich bends things in her favor (US courts are known to cater to the rich).
Also, the dirty little secret of the US court system is that while everyone, judges, lawyers, GALs, etc screams ‘equal parenting’, almost always the courts will factor on the mother’s side in heavily disputed cases. eg. Gabriel would get the child during the school year, and lose her every weekend/vacation/etc, something pro-hallee for sure.
jojo – Stay strong, sister.
I agree. If one parent decides to uproot a child’s life by moving to another country, the parent that remains behind in the child’s usual place of residence should be the one to get primary custody. The parent who wanted to move away so badly should be the one to have to commute back to see the child.
Halle honestly disgusts me
I can’t imagine wanting to take my child away from her father. Gabriel seems like a decent guy who truly loves his daughter and has been there since day one.
SHe could avoid the press by moving to a suburb and laying low. Not moving to France, jesus.
Firmly team Gabriel. I would do anything to keep my child in the country. Poor Nahla for possibly losing her dad’s involvement.
I think Halle sees this as HER child and Gabriel doesn’t matter cause Nahla has her
Spare me. 250,000 a year for six months of child-rearing. I read his papers on why he needed that much, even visiting his parents in Canada with her. Twenty thousand dollars a month for two weeks with him a month? I’m sorry, work, get out and hussle. Does he even work anymore? He seems lazy. The child doesn’t have to live the exact same lifestyle as with Halle. Madonna’s child with Carlos didn’t (though he had a nice place and I’m sure got some money from Madonna), and I have a feeling it was good for Lola and respect Carlos for it.
Before the haters hits, I think Halle is a loser for her antics, too. I actually don’t like either one these days and BOTH, yes BOTH, have their issues in different ways.
Does he deserve some child support? Yes. Ten thousand a month would be reasonable and that’s 120,000 a year for six months of the year averaged out with his child. Couple that with his income (well, if he works), and that is a nice lifestyle. I just have an issue with him and Kfed, now that Kfed doesn’t have his children fulltime, not getting out and making a living.
Again, I am speaking on the assumption they both still live in the same town.
@Jayna: You don’t seem to understand how child support works, and what it’s really for. The parent receiving support doesn’t get more because they’re lazy or not working. From my own experience, the amount of child support is mainly based on the income of the parent PAYING, not receiving. The court also considers other criteria, such as who/how much is being spent on daycare, school, health insurance, etc. As someone mentioned upthread, support is mainly used to more equally balance the standard of living between the two parents’ households. While Aubry makes pretty good money, he simply can’t afford to maintain the same household and lifestyle that Berry can. And child support doesn’t just go toward material objects–it’s for rent, utility bills, food, school, daycare, insurance, etc. As the other poster mentioned, how likely is it that a child is going to want to spend time at Daddy’s small apartment when she lives in a mcmansion and gets her every whim with rich mommy? I am a divorced mom myself who receives a teeny fraction of the support that Aubry will receive, and every dime goes toward bills and daycare.
Thank you Scarlet for offering the educated reasoning behind child support AGAIN. In most cases, the higher earning parent pays the lesser earning parent child support to create equality in both parents “home” for the child(ren) care.
Many have posted similar explanations but some people only “hear” what they want too and it has become very exhausting to explain how this works over and over and over again because some people don’t want it to be so. Whew.
“How likely is it that a child is going to want to spend time at Daddy’s small apartment when she lives in a mcmansion and gets her every whim with rich mommy?”
So is it about spending quality psycho-social-emotional time with daddy or about brie and the McMansion?
You all need to stop making Gabriel out of some type of martyr. Get over it. People with children break-up and/or divorce everyday AND parents move on to other partners–EVEN in different cities and places around the world. ALL INVOLVED ADJUST. It’s called life.
Dena – READ my previous posts. PLEASE.
IT’S NOT ABOUT BRIE AND MCMANSIONS. It’s about leveling the playing field, as it were, so THE CHILD IS ABLE TO LIVE IN THE MANNER TO WHICH SHE’S BEEN ACCUSTOMED.
DON’T BITCH AT ME, BECAUSE I DIDN’T CREATE THE LAW.
DEAL with it!
that’s sounds like the days of the studio system when stars couldn’t live more than 60 miles outside Los Angeles without studio premission
Gabriel should just get a job in France working as a model. He can be close to his daughter and it will drive Halle crazy. Halle will not be able to run to the courts at that point. There is nothing to stop Gab from moving to France, especially now that he is being paid for child support. He has his own money to afford living there and the means to get work there. He even speaks French. He will be more comfortable living there than Halle will.
Halle will not be able to get staged photos taken of her and her daughter, so her PR promo as the perfect mom will disappear overnight (careful what you wish for Halle). No one will come calling her for work since she can’t carry a movie and no one cares about her anymore.
Olivier will be stuck with Halle without any of the media attention she got for him in the States. She will take her anger out on him since she won’t be able to run to the California courts anymore (since both she and Gab will both be living in France now) and the French will see her as the crazy B she is. Olivier will have Halle’s undivided attention 24/7 since she is in a foreign land with nothing to do but cling to her cheating fiance. He will dump her within months when she shortens his leash so much he can’t visit all his other women. It will be over within 3-6 months.
Check mate, Halle.
Furthermore, when Halle’s relationship implodes and she returns to LA to “re-start” her career, Gabe should STAY in France with Nahla.
Sauce for the goose and all that…yes, my inner evil bitch is showing.
I am with you on this one…wouldn’t that be the best! Oh and love when “inner evil bitch” is showing. I’ve been doing it all day! 🙂
Okay, and what happens when he makes the move to France to be with his daughter… and Halle decides not to honor the US custody agreement?? No, Halle won’t be running to the courts… Gabriel will, and what are the chances that French courts don’t honor the agreement either, or at the very least, it all turns into a clusterf***??
Might sound like a great idea, but I wouldn’t trust Halle for a minute and once things move to another country, all bets are off. Even if it eventually gets resolved, who knows how long it might take. If I were him, I would fight this with everything he has.
Boy, you just know Hally Scary is all kinds of mad about this, hehe. Team Gabe!
Poor Nahla, if it’s true she is going to miss her father. I wonder if Halle even cares.
She doesn’t care. If she did, she never would have bad-mouthed Gabe with all her false accusations and put Nahla through this.
She wants what she wants, period.
it’s easy to make assumption but really what do any of us know? nothing but what we are told be it lies or truth.
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the road to hell is paved with good intentions
Wouldn’t it be amazing, even after this child support settlement she has to pay, she still would not get her way?
Yes. Yes it would. And it would serve her right! (Apparently, my inner evil bitch is still hanging around.)
I guess,so is mine too, 🙂
The only reason the paps are taking Helle’s pic is because of this custody battle. Once that is over she’s going to find they leave her alone. I hope a judge can see that too. It is not at all fair for her to be able to move her to another country on her whim. Travel is very difficult these days and Nahla should not be deprived of seeing her father more often than weekends.
how could this girl be more beautiful? she is perfect, gosh i wish her the best, may everything turn out right for her.
I despise this man-hating, manipulative, hack of an actress. Poor kid has zero chance of not ending up equally horrible. Sad.
Soooooooo Delighted about the support settlement!!! Firmly Team Gabe!!!!!
Olivier is a little rat where women are concerned, he always goes for the attractive, slightly older,wealthy ones, they fall head over heels for a couple of years and then the split comes, usually when he wants a bigger helping from the gravy boat and the light bulb finally goes on for these delusional women.
I used to like Halle Berry until she started acting like a bitch to her ex in this child custody case. WTF is her problem?
Nahla is adorable. She looks JUST like her daddy (who is fine as Hell!)
why would a judge order a 20k child support if he is going to let that crazy woman go to france????????????
He deserves every penny of it, she has put Gabriel through hell. The only way Gabriel can spend time with Nahla properly (if she’s allowed to move to France with Oliver that is) by moving to France as commuting would not allow him to spend enough time with his little girl. I hope whatever is decided is in the best interest of Nahla!