Oh, Twihard Dramz. Just the way to start a Monday… checking out what’s going on with The Great Twihard Meltdown of 2012. It feels like it’s been going on for weeks and weeks, but that’s only because there was so much happening in those first few days. Anyway, as we discussed yesterday, Rupert Sanders’ wife, Liberty Ross, has a brother and that brother went to a UK tabloid to basically say that everybody knows that Rupert and Kristen were fooling around for months and months. Considering those were direct quotes from Leopold Ross, I took the interview as “Liberty is looking to jettison her husband and start anew, and probably return to England.” But not so much according to The Telegraph’s gossip guy, Mandrake:
Robert Pattinson was so upset by what his girlfriend, Kristen Stewart, described as her “momentary indiscretion” with the film director Rupert Sanders that he has reportedly left the house that he shares with his fellow Twilight star in Los Angeles.
Mandrake hears that Sanders’s wife, the model Liberty Ross has, though, been more forgiving.
“She is prepared to give Rupert a second chance,” claims one of Ross’s friends. “She accepts that it was just one of those silly flirtations.”
Sanders, 41, was photographed with the American actress, 22, whom he had directed in the film Snow White and the Huntsman. He had cast her as Snow White and, somewhat tactlessly, Ross, 33, as her mother.
His father, Michael Sanders, 76, a retired surgeon, said of Stewart: “This girl’s a pretty young thing and if you’ve been gadding around for five months, or what have you, you’re bound to get a bit friendly. This kind of thing gets blown out of all proportion.”
Considering that, hours after Us Weekly’s photos proved to be the real deal, The Telegraph was still vociferously claiming that they were Photoshopped, I’m not sure how much stock I put in this “source.” Basically, I’m choosing to believe Liberty’s brother in a tabloid interview rather than an unnamed source to The Telegraph. But… stranger things have happened if Liberty actually does forgive him.
What I really think is going to happen is that Rupert and Kristen are going to stick with their initial (coordinated!) strategy of claiming that this really was a “momentary indiscretion” because, you know, they only got caught once so that’s all they’ll cop to. Kristen’s former Welcome to the Rileys director, Giovanni Agnelli, defended her honor and tried out the whole “it was just biscuit-munching, not sex” argument:
Kristen Stewart admitted to cheating on Robert Pattinson with her Snow White and the Huntsman director Rupert Sanders, but according to her Welcome to the Rileys director, Giovanni Agnelli, the two ‘did not have sex!’
Kristen, 22, has potentially destroyed her three-year relationship with 26-year-old Rob! While K-Stew has clearly upset her millions of fans, a former director of Kristen’s is leaping to her defense!
Giovanni tweeted, “I’ll say right now what the manipulative media isn’t saying… Kristen Stewart did not have any type of sex with Rupert Sanders.”
The director then goes on to take a swipe at the media saying, “You are completely entitled to your feelings and beliefs. But to resort to tearing people to pieces is so savage. Don’t lose your humanity.”
Yes, Kristen is viewed as the perpetrator in this scenario, but everyone could use a friend in their corner — even the guilty. And it seems like Kristen may have a friend in Giovanni.
Does anyone else now think that Kristen slept with him too? Because that’s what I think. And seriously, what’s with this “Kristen’s biscuit is only for the Sparkledong, so what she did isn’t really cheating because we don’t have photos of the p in the v!!!!” strategy? Because it’s an awful strategy.
But the strategy may be working. Here’s a fan-made video of very young women telling Kristen Stewart to “stay strong”. For the love of God!!!!!!
And here’s video of Rupert Sanders touching himself inappropriately while in a public restaurant with Kristen (and Charlize Theron). SO GROSS.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
What I feel for this woman is that it’s already bad enough knowing you’ve been cheated on…but to actually have photographic evidence of said cheating? It must be heartwrenching.
I don’t feel shit for this woman and she is as much of an asswipe as her creepy husband and brother who as an unsigned rock musician is looking or fame.
Come on. Your 41 year old husband cheats with a 22 year old of the 1st feature film he is helming. Therefore he had a heck if a lot to lose professionally and personally, yet he goes after her even through he know how high profile she is.
You find out and you blame the girl?
80% of the blame s on her husband. He risked his family and career. If one of them is to be dropped from SWATH2, he is the one going to be dropped. Kristen apologised 1st (a stupid idea from my point of view) then he gave a lame ass apology.
She then welcomes him home with open arm and calls Kristen not so pure? What the heck?
It’s her life falling apart and he gets off? Crazy orld we live in.
How about he and Kristen get dropped? both cheaters.
I don’t think she’s much of an asswipe as her husband — nobody is, not even Kristen Stewart is.
And you can’t tell she isn’t blaming her husband as well…that snarky comment isn’t evidence enough that she’s ONLY blaming Stewart, that’s what I’m saying.
Also, not feeling anything for her is one thing, but blaming her for being in that situation? Seriously?
Finally! Someone attacks the woman that was cheated on! Next talk about how maybe if she was as talented and beautiful as Kristen maybe her husband wouldn’t have cheated in the first place!
He cheats on her and SHE is the asswipe? You are right, it is a crazy old world we live in.
KStews fans have been jumping through so many hoops and twisting and turning so much to defend her that they should just enter the Olympics and be done with it.
Get over yourself Care, what makes you really think the wife is only blaming the girl. Ugh, the only reason people are talking about Kristen more than Rupert is because her and her fugly face is the more famous one of the duo, nobody knew who this Rupert dude is before this fiasco.
You crazy Kristen fans needed to be admitted to a mental institution, it’s obvious you are all living vicariously through her fantasying about Sparkles bwahaha.Come back to reality babes.
@Care:
Atticus Ross, who you call an “unsigned rock musician” is a pretty big deal. He won an Oscar for chrissakes.
The Rosses are not looking for fame or money here imo. I don’t think Liberty blames kStew, I think she blames her husband which is why her brother set the record straight with his public statement.
@Normandes – It’s Leopold not Atticus who gave the interview.
@Care – Liberty Ross’s family are not begging for money. Family wealth was made in the 60s. Certainly don’t need to work even though they do. Liberty Ross is a big time model with multiple DIOR, CHANEL and Burberry campaigns under her belt. Her siblings have worked on everything from Nine Inch Nails, Grace Jones, Korn to The Social Network, Girl with The Dragon Tattoo, Twilight [ironically], The book of Eli amongst many more.
@LAK: Oops. Oh well. Looks like Leopold is doing pretty well for himself anyway. Like you said the Rosses are a pretty accomplished bunch. They don’t need the fame or money from this scandal.
Good grief.
Look, I think someone’s entire life – personal and professional – going down the pan because she did something stupid, selfish and cruel at 22 is harsh, too. But please, to blame the biggest victim after the kids? I get that you want to be able to excuse Stewart, but all you’re doing here is making it harder for anyone else to, because her actions have made this kind of breathtakingly unfair attack on the woman she so badly wronged possible.
You are making Kristen Stewart look infinitely worse with this defence. You are also making what she did worse, because this was a forseeable repercussion from a minority of her fans. If you really do think you’re her fan, you may want to reconsider your strategy on this one.
Kstew fans now attacking the wife who was cheated on. Big surprise there with this bunch. Blame the innocent party to make excuses for their Kstew. Next up Rpatz wasn’t man enough so he deserved to be cheated on. What a bunch of winners Kstew fans are.
A few years ago I was friends with Leopold’s girlfriend. During this time he beat the shit out of her for kissing on some teenager one time. So I would not consider him a credible source with regards to the issue of infidelity.
No innocent parties here.
Wow, care.
You are seriously the worst kind of person.
It isn’t liberty’s fault, for one. Second, Kristin gets exactly 50% of the blame. She’s one of two people directly involved, and gets half of the blame ergo. He isn’t a rapist. It was very consensual looking.
While both Rupert and Kristen suck completely, he is the father of her two children. They’ve seen enough that they shouldn’t have to see; don’t need their mom ripping their dad apart as well.
It takes two, they are both equally guilty.
oh jezz, care… If you’re Kristen Stewart’s crazy fanwhore just shut up. You look dumb.
First, the Ross’ family doesn’t need fame or money. Liberty is a well known model in UK with work with Dior. Girl, you need to check again the name Atticus Ross… Not only he works with one of the most important bands at the 90s -NIN-, he won a freaking Oscar for scoring one of the most acclaimed films in this DECADE -Say what you want for TSN, but you can’t deny the impact and acclaim of the film-. With the average talent and dreadful personality from Stewart she would never close of that
Second, yes, he’s the big and pathetic liar, but he’s not the only guilty of this mess. Actually, I don’t trust Stewart right now, because not only she’s a hypocrite selling herself as a honest and mature young woman -A charade-. She lied even when she knew the wife and kids.
Third, these excuses -Her age, Pattinson’s “friends”, being seduced and involved in a unfair game of power- need to stop. Maybe it will be better if all of these crazy fans -As you understand that, cara- recognize her mistakes and maybe starting again
We don`t know what Rupert was telling Kristen. Maybe “we have an open marriage“ or “we are going to divorce after SWATH opens“. Horny older married men tell these lies to get sex. When i was younger, i had older married men after me constantly…didn`t act on anything because they all had children! Not defending KS, do not think this will hurt her career.
Affairs occur all the time in Hollywood and boring suburbia. RPatz should just be thankful to be rid of Kristen. Finally the world sees who KS really is…why does Rupert have his hand in his boxers..at the dinner table? I am disgusted with both of these vile creatures.
@care
I “get” what you’re saying but I don’t think the outcome is up for interpretation. I have seen situations where the wife may blame the mistress more than the husband for different reasons. Doesn’t make it right but it almost makes it seem like the wife is a bit delusional and isn’t realizing that both parties are at fault (in general, not for this particular situation).
Honestly this couple has history (along with kids) and they may end up working things out. It sucks because men like this usually don’t change, especially guys who are looking for young tail and have long-term affairs.
I feel a tiny bit bad for Kristen in this situation. She’s not going to be “Leann” and steal the husband, get married, and move on. Rupert is going to beg for his family and it looks like Kristen has lost her precious boyfriend. Sad for everyone involved but “you make your bed..now sleep in it.” I think Kristen and Rupert should just shack up together, stop lying to the press. Sad that they can lie to their spouses for so long and then run away from each other the minute they are caught.
Still think this is some sort of PR stunt but that’s just me.. :p
I agree. Many times men lie to women and say they are separated, but not quite divorced, staying together for hte kids but no longer really together, etc.
I also think it is a bit odd that people keep saying he was going downtown on KS in the MINI COOPER. Unless her vj is on her chest, I don’t think that is what the pictures were showing. That, and it would be impossible in a mini cooper with a man that tall!
So Miss Theron was there between them.
Yes and the only one talking really. You can actually see the eye f-ing going on though – Theron was either blissfully unaware or just too cool to care. I choose too cool to care although now they claim she is fuming so yah.
The vid is so telling. Charlize is busy yapping away while the other two are touching their mouths and crotch area. Total sexual tension.
He’s so gross! Getting his hands in his pants AT A DINNER TABLE!!
So gross! Did he actually have to go inside his underwear – at the dinner table! at a public place! the hygiene issues alone make me want to throw up.
Maybe the crabs were jumping around too much.
Yes, Charlize was there…while cheating husband adjusted his wayward boner in a restaurant. Classy. I’m sure his children will always treasure that moment, captured for eternity on the internet.
ass wipe? I’m pretty sure that’s not exactly what he was wiping in that footage?
I’m thinking they had sex. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. This whole dissection of the varying degrees of cheating is so middle school. It is proving to be totally ineffective as a defense and is just embarrassing to watch. But not so embarrassing that I’ll stop reading about it 😉
Remember this? LOL
“In personal conversations between director and actor, the male directors that I’ve worked with are just as emotional. Maybe it’s because I had to start having very intimate conversations with adult men at a very young age in order to get the work, but I’m real comfortable with dudes. I mean, we push boundaries in this business in terms of getting to know people. There are things that directors know about me that people shouldn’t know.”
— Kristen Stewart, Interview Magazine -June 2012
That’s disgusting. What the fuck is she implying? Just intimate talk with directors or casting couch?
To add to that:
How does a former director of Kristen, Giovanni Agnelli, “know” that Kristen did not have sex with Sanders. Why is he getting involved in a matter that is highly personal? Since when does a director make comments about an actor’s sex life? Seems suspect.
With a bit of luck she’ll get the “casting coach” every single time when she wants a part.
Subtle as a sledgehammer, isn’t she?
And @Vesper: totally agree. Why on earth would a former “colleague” weigh in publicly on a matter like this? Even if you cared deeply for one of the parties involved, why would you want to be dragged into the mire?
I am now left to assume that she shagged all her directors and they’re all in love with her, to the point that they would debase themselves by talking about the sex she definitely didn’t have with other directors.
With the exception, please Gahd, of Fincher, because she was only about 11 at the time and because I really want to keep liking him.
We’re thinking the same thing CTgirl. It’s like a time warp back to the teenage years.
I couldn’t watch the video, the screenshot was enough to set off my cringe radar. Twihards are creepy.
“There are things that directors know about me that people shouldn’t know….”
like the taste of my biscuits.
Yes, all those defending her as a 22 y/o who was completely taken advantage by an older married man! What makes me sick (beside the images of THAT man doing THAT to himself at THAT restraunt) is people that make her a some type of innocent victim. THEY WERE BOTH EQUALLY AT FAULT! Girl is not some innocent…just look at one of the tons of pictures of her giving the finger to paps or read her Interview.com article. Nuff said.
I honestly don’t know what ‘we believe in you’ means in this context.
The video was made by a Brazilian girl. The tagline (on Youtube) says: “Know that you can always count on us — Twilighters”.
I don’t know what “We believe in you” means either…it could be they believe she didn’t cheat on him (or that they’re buying her excuses) OR they believe that she’ll be able to get over this…*shrugs*
her fans have been tweeting pictures of themselves holding the sign or they are putting them on thumbrl or something.
anyway they are so young. It hurts your heart to look at them. Mainly because they don’t have a clue about the world.
Her fans have mobilised to hide all US Weekly they can find: http://operationhideusweekly.tumblr.com/
They are nuts.
so, if they hide enough US Weeklys then it didn’t happen? I don’t understand this line of thinking.. When is school back in so the kids will have something else to do? Please tell me these are school age kids and not adults, that would make it all so much sadder..
Oh, they’re adults. A lot of them. They’re also spreading that Sanders drugged Kristen and so she wasn’t even in her right mind when all that went down.
Just another proof how easy it is to spend money on crap when you didn’t earn it. Ahhh Tweens’ allowances and how little it teaches them about the real world.
ORLY, oh my god, how funny! Don’t they know that there’s the internet out there??
ORLY – Seems a little late in the game for that, don’t you agree? I mean, US dropped last Wednesday. Those silly fangirls!
Bella, Liv – If the hide the mags, it will mean none of it was real. HA. No one said logical was applied there.
ORLY, ah, it’s like toddlers who close their eyes and think you can’t see them. Got it! 😉
well…i hope that all these stupid girls siding with Kristen get cheated on by their loved ones. how can people be so dumb…siding with a homewrecker!
ORLY: they do have a gif on that website where Kristen is clearly ‘back off!” to him as he tries to touch her.
Might be that it started as a casting couch thing (what evolved from it nobody knows but the two cheaters).
Maybe it means “We believe (you had his p3nis) in you” ?
Good one, Bad Irene.
ah hahahahahaha, that video is silly.. what the hell is wrong with some of these fans?!? while I find them extrememly entertaining, I think these people need a new hobby..
Ew, Sanders is really sleazy.. Touching yourself next to your co-workers in a restaurant. Classy.
I am tired of all the excuses for Kristen .. Yes she is young but not braindead. I am 23 and I know what is right and wrong! She knew what she was doing!
+1
I’m 24 and I take it as an insult that people are say she should get a pass because of her age. Just because your young dosen’t mean your naive and don’t know the difference between right and wrong. I would never get with a married man let alone one thats dating someone eles.
Girl know what she was doing, she a innocent victimof age in this mess.
I totally agree, I hate the “young” argument. I’m 19 and still get chewed out by my mother for saying damn. Just because a person is young it doesn’t excuse them from anything. If that’s the case than how about we excuse all thieves who are in their 20s of their crimes. Since you know they’re too young to know better and it was a one time thing.
I don’t think people are saying she should get a pass. I just think they’re saying that a stupid, selfish and nasty mistake made when you’re that age should not then define your entire future, which does appear to be happening.
And for the record (not necessarily relevant here, as obviously I don’t know the people in question so can’t say) a lot of people do end up in affairs who wouldn’t normally have forgiven people if they’d heard of a similar situation prior, and have even been quite judgemental about it. No idea if Stewart is just a selfish ho-bag, or she was very naive and got embroiled in a situation she didn’t see coming. But the latter can happen (and even to the former, too).
Friend of mine ended up manipulated into an affair at this age by a creepy husband of a co-worker (the co-worker had put them in touch as he could help with her career, horrendously enough) and the *really* twisted thing was when he first started to make subtle moves on her, she firmly said, “No, I know your wife for God’s sake!” and he then managed to twist it round so as to get HER to apologise, because she had “totally misunderstood!” and he’d never meant anything of the kind. We had this conversation a few days afterwards in which she told me how mortifyingly embarrassing it had been, and how grovellingly apologetic she had been, and how he’d said he was partly hurt, partly flattered and partly amused, ha ha. I told her he was playing her, and her initial instinct had been totally right, but she was adamant he wasn’t. I can still remember sitting in this coffee shop just saying, “trust your initial instincts, if you thought he was making a pass then his behaviour was automatically over the line, he’s married…” Six months later they were having an affair. She genuinely was not the kind of person who ever had any patience with cheaters, before this. I’d gone to university with her and she was actually quite rigid in terms of her morals – I was the one who used to think things more ambiguous, generally. It was like watching a train wreck approaching and being completely unable to stop it. He was, incidentally, married to his 3rd or 4th wife, can’t recall which. Each had replaced their predecessor though, I do remember that. So yes, my friend was culpable and what she did was terrible, and ten years later she is the first to say as much. But frankly, she was not the one most to blame there. Not by a long shot.
The point isn’t that Stewart is young and therefore stupid and amoral. The point is that someone considerably older and with far more life experience should usually find manipulating the younger person a relative breeze. There is a power imbalance in terms of life experience. I also think it telling that he got together with his wife when he was in his late 20s and she was just 17. Now, perhaps all this is moot, and she knew exactly what she was doing and is just not someone who gives a stuff about anyone else. That’s certainly possible. But so is the alternative – nobody here knows.
I am NOT making excuses for Stewart, and when I was her age I wasn’t making those mistakes either. But I also think that life can be complicated and we don’t know how much of this was actively chosen by her, and denial of things you don’t want to acknowledge is dangerous at any age… but more especially so when you’ve not had much experience of life.
Of course, the problem in that scenario is that she’s alleged to have cheated on her ex when getting together with Pattinson, according to posts I’ve seen here. But still. The fact is, one bloody awful mistake in your personal life is usually not the end of your career. That does seem a stonkingly high price to pay.
KS isn’t a naive girl. She is a 22 year old woman who cut her teeth in the trash heap that is Hollywood. Either she is what she has presented; namely a tough, profane, honest, bitchy, strong rebel or she’s a lying, easily manipulated little girl with daddy issues. She can’t be both. She made the decision to get together with a married man. She made the unbelievable decision to get with this married man even though she knows his wife and family. They are both to blame and I don’t think that either of them is getting out of this with an intact career.
Of course she can be both! People don’t boil down to an easy label; most of us are a million, often very contradictory things. And the point isn’t that she needs to be naive, weak and with Daddy issues: the point is that there’s only so much life experience you can cram in before 22, and he was a lot older. That’s in no way incompatible with the traits you describe (which frankly could be manufactured by her publicist, for all we know. Though her bratty conduct as mentioned in some of the posts here do seem to make that less likely.) other than the “honest” one, which is kind of laughable in that industry anyway. It’s like a politician claiming to be honest: if they were, they’d be unemployable.
I also don’t see an acknowledgement of her age as “giving her a free pass”. She did something truly horrible. I’m just pointing out that it isn’t proportionate, her whole life going kerplunk over it. Most people who screw up in this way don’t lose absolutely everything through it – they can get past it and learn from it, and most of those they meet will never even know it happened. Look at Claire Danes, who did something considerably worse – Billy Crudup left his 7 months pregnant wife to be with her – but bounced back just fine. I doubt KS’ll have that opportunity.
Again, what she did was horrible. I’m not for one moment denying that. It’s just that it seems harsh to write someone’s life off over that, even though she does sound rather irritating, from all we’re hearing. It’s a punishment and crime mismatch IMO, that’s all.
CTgirl – Did you read Lainey today?
She said that the new strategy to rehabilitate Kristen’s image is to present her as naive and innocent. That is not going to work. Not with the KS we’ve seen now for YEARS.
The most important point in what Lainey said was in the last 2 sentance:
“Anything else will be interpreted as SELF-SERVING. That’s the last thing she needs to be accused of right now.”
that’s the problem and inside story. She used Robert to convice the producers and the wife that they have stopped the on set affair. if she did use Robert like that. and i don’t think his gay (maybe his BI, actors who knows…) and they had their problems, like any other normal reletionship.
Hope all truth will come out. Probebly not until after BD2. i think kirsten lost snow white, the studio will replace her.
oh, and i also think this is why Charlize is pissed. she was told better, she should know better. been loking at promo interviews of them together.
@orly – I read Lainey. Kristen as a doe-eyed innocent? Yeah, right. There are too many articles of her dropping the f-bomb and pictures of her flipping the bird to sell that BS. Her team is showing how amateur it is; she needs to hire an expert in crisis management STAT!
“Either she is what she has presented; namely a tough, profane, honest, bitchy, strong rebel or she’s a lying, easily manipulated little girl with daddy issues. She can’t be both.”
WHAT??????? According to whose rules? Do you see how complete BS your statement is? That isn’t life.
A person can very genuinely honest, rough, profane, and a bitchy rebel who was also manipulated. Becoming an adult means learning from your mistakes, and many times those mistakes are trusting the wrong people.
I don’t know what is true in KS’s case…but neither do you. And honestly who cares if she is an angel, a devil, or human like us all? The thing that we DO know with absolute certainty is that your “rules” are crap and mean nothing.
I wonder if Kristin just gave herself a lifetime of hurt as far as her career goes. Wives will always be suspicious and some directors may not want to work with her now; others may take advantage of the rep. She’s going to have a hard time career-wise. I feel for rob re: the upcoming promotional tours. Can you imagine?
it didn’t hurt Elizabeth Taylor or Hugh Grant or Jude Law. All scenerios where we had evidence as opposed to hearsay. i put Angelina in the hearsay category.
True, but they had/have talent. Kristen had a fan base. don’t have it now as much. i think the Studio’s will prefer some one who can sell a movie in interviews (print or in person). Kirstien can’t do that. all the media training in the world is not helping. Charlize did most of the heavy lifting or other co-stars in other movies.
KS doesn’t have the talent or beauty of Elizabeth Taylor (an Oscar winner) or the disarming English charm of Hugh Grant or Jude Law. The girl is pretty much a black hole for charm. So I’m thinking that KS won’t be getting a pass for the decision to get it on with a married man.
It really wasn’t about talent that saved the day for ET, HG or JL.
This is nothing compared to what ET faced. She had the Vatican denouncing her, the studio gossips who made or broke careers denouncing her, studios denounced her. Her career was all but finished. It was only near death episode that finally turned that ship around. Some say that although she was plagued with ill health, sometimes it was played or exaggerated to influence fans.
Both Hugh Grant and Jude Law issued apologies. Hugh did month long tour of talk shows in which he apologised over and over.
In retrospect, we can say that ET, HG and JL were talented/charming etc but really, it was their pr that saved their careers.
That’s why she aplogised publicly.
It is all pr tricks.
IIRC none of those people cheated with the very married director of one of their movies.
This situation is a bit more than just some PR smoothing over that needs to be done.
She’s likely now on the red flag radar of every male director’s wife, fiance, or girlfriend. None of those women are going to want her anywhere near their men after this situation. At least not for a very long time.
add “the internet” to everything that has been said. people leaving their opionions everywhere making it even worse. or funny pictures where they put the cuddling pics in order and it looks like he is banging her from behind. internet memes with snow white and so on.
in earlier times people where more upset when someone cheated but nowadays we are a lot closer to stars, every picture, every word is analyzied.
gossip magazines need to sell and gossip blogs need visitors, so even more stories and discussing.
Yeah, Claire Danes is Emmy nominated. What she did was worse, and totally acknowledged.
I think, though, that the various people who did survive this kind of thing didn’t have careers built off the back of the relationship in question. It does look rather as if fans were fans of what they imagined the relationship to be, rather than her, for the most part. I do think that’s a factor here that may be the killer. I’m not sure she has the necessary traction to rebuild her fanbase.
@pleaseICU – don’t know how old you are but based upon your response to my comment I can only say quite young and naïve enough to think this stuff is new.
Who do you think first made the paps realise what a lucrative business they could have?? ET, is who. She was caught out on a boat in broad daylight kissing and sunbathing with her very married with kids co-star. She was the biggest Star at this point. Politicians, religious leaders, studios fans etc had something to say about her career. It was PR that rescued her career as it will Kirsten. Star’s images were more rigidly controlled and rigidly important then. The internet has made us closer so get the information faster or are able to prick the sugar coated bubble easier but it has also made us more forgiving because we see the human flaws. Stars in the old days lived or died by their image. A construct was built around them that sugar coated the reality. Whether or not Kirsten’s relationship is real, it doesn’t matter. What matters is that the fans believe it and continue to go see the next twihard. So she apologises is a way and with words that play into the pr image of the relationship. ET was just coming off recently bad publicity of running off with her BFF’s husband and playing the devoted wife as her new pr image. To then be caught cheating with ANOTHER married person was beyond scandalous. In an age where we can celebrate gay actors as opposed to the days where they had ‘wives’ this is a storm in a tea cup. Kirsten’s new films are edgy dark films that don’t require a sugar image. Depending on how she handles this, she’ll be fine.
Similarly, Hugh Grant was caught red handed with a prostitute on hollywood Boulevard when he was on his 2nd big hollywood picture when he was all but married to Elizabeth Hurley. His very public apology tour was considered unprecedented and was the only thing that saved his career. Ditto Jude Law.
Sure it’s was a different time, but it was a much more moral time. These days, being caught cheating isn’t that big a deal except for the participants.
If Kirsten didn’t have a big film release soon or worked on low key films or TV, I can bet she wouldn’t have apologised publicly. Ditto the director who wants to keep his job and keep in with kirsten. Her power in the hollywood eco system is greater than his, so if she makes a public apology, so does he otherwise she can have him black listed.
Kate – i agree.
but she can do small movies for now. i think she will have to sit outside the big budget movie for some years. no studio will give her a lead after this.
1. PR nightmare to promote. fandom needs to grow a bit.
2. unreliable, she shouldn’t have been so careless.
i think this will be good for her. depends if her ego accept it. she seems to like the big premiers.
Lak – my point was more that she cheated with a director. Not a rep a starlet wants. Everyone else you named cheated with actors or no names.
“IIRC none of those people cheated with the very married director of one of their movies”
Ummmm….Elizabeth Taylor broke up the marriage of Eddie Fisher to Debbie Reynolds. 3 1/3 HOURS after he divorced Debbie he married Liz.
Fisher was still not her director. That’s the point she made, that it will cause her harm because of the director-actress working relationship.
As for Liz Taylor, apart from the cheating thing, she was very charming and also genuinely kind to many. She took up AIDS as a cause when nobody wanted to be associated with it.
It’s for a large part thanks to her that it’s now seen as a horrible disease instead of as a curse that only came to people who deserved it somehow.
Kristen, with all her whining about teachers not catering to her entitled self? Not charming or kind at all.
I don’t see her moving on from this. The only way she can is if she has a serious attitude adjustment. Like no more flipping the bird and the terrible attitude that’s like a bratty 15 year old girl PMsing needs to go.
I have to agree with you. She will weather the storm a bit BECAUSE of the Twilight franchise and its cultish fan following, however, the “cheater” card will be attached to her forever. It may not be pulled all the time, but the minute she “missteps” somehow, it will be thrown down by the celeb media.
To this point in her career (and life) she has clearly shown she is arrogant (boning married man, all her pap finger flipping, her snide comments in Interview magazine 2 months ago, etc) so to me 1. She doesn’t have it in her to be contrite and be sincere about it and 2. Girl has been brought up in Hollywood since she entered this world from the womb and may not have ever had a moral compass to begin with and the cesspool certainly isn’t anyplace that one tends to pick up any morals…only loose them.
I don’t think her career will be too hurt, but it does make PR for the last Twilight film more difficult.
I totally agree. We live in a world where famous people (moms of toddlers) who are caught taking cocaine actually see their value explode ( yes, I am talking to you, Kate Moss-The-Toss) . KStew will make more movies and people will forget about it. Unfortunately moral standards are usually irrelevant these days. The only reason this is a bigger deal than som is because the Twihards are so young.
Chris Brown is making more money than ever and Roman Polanski is a happy camper.
I bet this time around they’ll split up the cast for premieres and comicons even if one of them backs out.
Kristen always seemed so miserable with Robert Pattinson, always complaining about her Twilight fame and whatnot, it wasn’t going to last anyways
Maybe it depends on the person. I mean, Posh took DB back and it turns out well and their relationship seems stronger now. BUT if it’s me in the same position, I just couldn’t bring myself to take him back. Trust and loyalty are very important for me.
I always think that a relationship that seems stronger after an affair isn’t really, it’s just that the cheater is better at covering his/her tracks now.
Yep; this.
Becks got caught out because they were living in different countries at the time and it was a full-blown affair. I seriously doubt he’s faithful, just considerably more discreet.
I can tell you for a fact that a marriage can be better after an affair.
I think that can be true if the cheating was an event instead of a pattern, if that makes any sense. And to be fair we don’t know which this was, nor how much responsibility he’s taking for it all/how honest he’s being when talking with her. But the fact also is that affairs vary in severity. KS knowing the wife and kids ups the ante, in my view. And I have no clue why I say this, but I just don’t buy that the guy in question is usually Mr Fidelity. I might be being totally unfair there, I know, but he is pinging my jerkdar, as someone here once put it.
+1. I’ve always thought of a relationship where a cheater got caught, as a mug that gets dropped on the floor and a piece or pieces break off. You can glue them back on/in, you can even use Gorilla Glue, but the cracks remain, and the structure will always be weaker for it.
And I can tell you for a fact that cheaters get better at covering their tracks and wives get better at acceptance and selective blindness.
This assumes that the husband is the cheater. Wives cheat almost as often as husbands; the reasons are myriad, and the terms of reconciliation are incredibly varied.
The reasons people cheat are far more important than the fact that they cheated. Someone who is a serial cheater? Yeah, that’s gonna end badly. Someone who cheated for an identifiable reason that is removed from the relationship by mutual work and respect? That has much better odds.
In this case, I don’t know any of the people involved, and I would never blame the spouse who was cheated on for the adultery. People jumping to blame Liberty in this are being ridiculous. We don’t know anything about the state of that marriage, and blaming Liberty is just cold. That said, I don’t blame the unmarried 22 year-old, either, for anything other than callousness and stupidity. The married man with kids, however, whose career will likely benefit rather than suffer from this (because who knew this guy’s name before he schtupped KStew?) is the bad guy here. This 22 year-old vapid and insecure actress is never going to live this down…and that is so incredibly unfair. I truly feel sorry for her. She didn’t cheat on someone she made vows to, and the only reason I frown on what she did at all is that it’s indecent to make oneself the agent of destroying a child’s home for an orgasm.
As to the blanket statements being made about ALL cheaters? Well, I have always believed the “once a cheater; always a cheater” level of non-tolerance is a cop-out used by neglectful and/or emotionally abusive husbands and wives who don’t want to take any part of their responsibility in the breakdown of the relationship that took place BEFORE the cheating. It doesn’t matter how verbally abusive or emotionally neglectful the faithful spouse was or for how long because once the other spouse cheated, somehow they get canonized as some kind of saint.
Sure, there are jerks out there who cheat on their spouses because they have no concept of loyalty or responsibility to the vows they took, but I’ve seen a lot of both sides to the cheating issue (sometimes, I was friends with someone who cheated; and sometimes, I was friends with someone who got cheated on), and it was NEVER that cut and dried. In one case, a friend of mine cheated after being physically shut out for five years. This friend was in a clinically “sexless” marriage for five years and made a mistake and felt terrible guilt. They worked out their problems and that marriage is much happier now–both of them are obviously happier and more relaxed and more in love–and everyone who knows them can see it.
So…yeah. It’s not that simple, and sex is not the worst sin a spouse can commit against the other spouse.
She’s a model and (let me see if I can phrase this, fairly) it seems to me that that life choice would lead one to be a bit on the superficial side in measuring one’s self worth. I think this may be too much of a blow to her pride. I have been racking my brain to think if there have ever been high profile models that have faced cheating scandals and tried to make it work. They seem to move on fairly quickly. Plus, this is a pretty public humiliation. My point is that its different from us regular folks trying to deal with our very real and complicated lives: their egos are on the line.
(Oh, and I think Posh is a very pathetic woman with very low self-esteem.)
I get what you are saying. Cindy Crawford comes to mind, but she is definitely the exception to the rule. Her situation was all speculation anyway.
I agree that it would be much easier to consider reconciliation if they were private citizens. The media firestorm, and clear photographic evidence laid out for the world to see, would likely make it hard for anyone to stay. The humiliation would be too intense, especially with everyone waiting for the announcement that she has left him.
Ewww, I really hope they didn’t share any finger foods. Sweaty ball fingers & all, just gross :X
The fan video has nothing to do with the strategy. Kristen fan don’t believe that she cheated at all nor do they believe the statment she made that it was her. It’s called denial and that’s what most of her fans seem to be in a state of.
They don’t believe it? Seriously – even after she admitted it and so did he?
Blimey. That’s insane.
1. Biscuit munching is definitely cheating, so who cares if they biscuit munched or actually had sex? Same difference really.
and…
2. This quote from Rupert’s dad:
“His father, Michael Sanders, 76, a retired surgeon, said of Stewart: “This girl’s a pretty young thing and if you’ve been gadding around for five months, or what have you, you’re bound to get a bit friendly. This kind of thing gets blown out of all proportion.”
Bound to get a BIT FRIENDLY?! A bit friendly is maybe going out for dinner, hanging out together, seeing a film, whatever. A “bit friendly”, Mr Michael Sanders, is not biscuit munching. Well, maybe it is in your book, but not in mine.
Jeez…
ahah you’re so right. Isn’t it a bit revealing if his father says stuff like that? It makes it even more credible that Rupert Sanders is an a**hole when his own father says that kind of stuff.
And why is Giovanni giving his two cents to the story? How can he know if she had sex with him or not? Was he hiding on the front seat?
Translated: she offered it on a plate, and it’s a perk of the job. His wife should just accept that and move on.
What a gentleman he sounds.
Even if it was only biscuit munching and no P in her V, her biscuits played a part in ruining someone’s marriage
I urge both parties involved to forgive each other. Maybe this will help them(kristen & Rupert) realise what a good thing they had going in the first place.
Forgive each other? What? What does Liberty Ross need to be forgiven for? And how do you know “what a good thing KS and RP had”, either? They could have had an awful relationship for all we know. It could have been hell on co-dependent, miserable wheels. It might even have been a PR invention. Nobody knows.
Saying you want Liberty Ross’ choices about her life and her kids’ lives to be ones you feel might benefit Kristen Stewart is all kinds of inappropriate. Liberty Ross and her kids are real people, not the supporting cast in the epic love story you think Robsten represent (personally, my epic love stories don’t involve cheating, but whatever).
I guess it would have been better if I said Robert & Liberty need to kick their respective partners to the curb & have done with it? Cheating doesn’t have to be the death sentence for a relationship. Repeated cheating yes. But they have kids & sometimes you have to make sacrifices for your kids. Not saying you have to sacrifice personal happiness for the sake of your kids but you have to consider things long term. I’ve seen relationships crash after cheating & others grow stronger. That’s the point I was trying to make but I guess you were in such a rush to make assumptions you didn’t bother to actually understand what I meant
Your first comment hopes Sanders and Ross “forgive one another” in order that Stewart and Pattinson “realise what a good thing they had going”. The second is a lecture on marital complexity and the best interests of the children. The two comments are quite wholly unrelated. I can’t see how any “assumptions” of mine alter that fact, but I note your own assumptions on my position on what Ross should do. (Those assumptions, incidentally, are wholly misplaced.)
If anything makes me pity Kristen Stewart, it’s her fans.
Most people cheat because they’re unsatisfied, from what I’ve experienced. It involves willingness and opportunity. It doesn’t fall into your lap out of no where. Even if you regret it, it’s a symptom of a problem. Kids would rather their parents divorced than be unhappy together, from what I’ve seen as well. The ‘think if the children’ argument is an irrelevant argument created from good place (keeping a family unit together) that doesn’t really pan out well emotionally for anyone involved.
@cupidityrox!
In your first comment you said you ‘urged them to forgive each other’ not ‘urge them to see what can ben done’.
Don’t blame her for misunderstanding you if you said something totally different.
And as a matter of fact, it does indeed seem better for Liberty to kick him out. She gave up her career for him, and he totally and absolutely disregarded not just her love, but also did so publicly enough that he could get snapped. She’s now famous as being the wife who was cheated on, what a jerk.
@Merryhappy. You are wrong. The research for some time has shown that unless the marriage is very high conflict (they are screaming & hitting each other) children prefer their parents to stay together. Also children of intact families statistically are more likely to have good outcomes. Children do not care if their parents feel “fulfilled” or ” emotionally satisfied”. This is a lie adults told themselves in the 70s to justify their selfish pursuit of their on desires over their children’s well being.
Homework well done!
I’ve read similar statistics.There is a book I still haven’t read called “The patchwork lie” about how great, liberating and so on a patchwork family (divorsed parents)can be.
Statistically a complete BS.
Well, I don’t discuse the statement, but I have this story with a close friend who was married with a child. Both are living unhappily and it seems they only were together for the child. One time, my friend and I were talking and then, this child, in a serious tone, was asking about the happyness for my friend and the most surprising thing, because he’s 5 years old cute child, said these words: “Mom, you can choose your happyness without my dad”…
Again, it was surprising, but he’s really mature for his age -Right now, he’s 7- and it seems he’s fine even when his parents are divorced.
Exacty, Anna. I am also speaking from experience. My sister and her ex happily co-parent a ten year old daughter who prefers them happy over an unhappy family unit. My own family was not violent, but i always felt my mothers quiet resignation and resentment about being with my father. They should have divorced. I wanted them too. I didn’t feel more secure with them together. I could tell neither of them were happy. Always consider the rhetoric, by the way. Yours could be as flawed as mine. Who funded that research?
I think Sanders wife is gonna take him to the cleaners. She let her brother release a public statement so everyone will know how long this has been going on. See you in court Rupert!
If you go to http://blindgossip.com/?p=14273
You will learn that Rob’s and KS’s relationship has be a “faux”. Arranged by the studio to make the series as successful as it has been. If you go to Kristen’s CB post from yesterday, it is also there as one of the last comments.
I really feel sorry for you that you believe blind gossip. Their fun to read and to guess but I dont think anyone really takes them seriously.
Um. If it was “faux” to sell movies, wouldn’t they have been more public about it? Walking down the street holding hands, kissing in the coffee shop, etc.( Example: Reece & Jake) These two hid out, practically dove into dumpsters to avoid the paps, never talked about their relationship etc. Any pap photos of them with PDAs were grainy, taken from far away with high powered lenses. If they would have agreed to a PR relationship, they’d have agreed to sell it accordingly.
Actually, i disagree. Not that i believe bg, but it’s more titillating for people if they think Kristen Stewart and Robert Patinwhatever were in some forbidden, clandestine love affair. It paints a more romantic picture.
A little off topic but why do people keep saying because he’s older he’s the seducer? I know PLENTY of girls 20-25 who have been the seducers with men over 35. He has more to lose which leaves me a little inclined to believe that she may have been the one to initiate everything. He’s obv guilty as she is, but if you think about it, younger girls ALWAYS have some form effect on older men. Speaking from experience.
Me too! Once I went out with my ex-boyfriend and some friends of his friends and the 21-year-old-girl knew he was my boyfriend and she kept flirting with him until I interrupted her disrespectful nonsense and my ex- was pale. She knew what she was doing. I will never forget that, hahaha.
Last year I was in a Conference and the 20-year-old girl in our table was flirting with a guy around 32-35 years of age. When he found out she was that young, he cut the flirting and she was so disappointed.
These girls in their 20s can be beyond agressive and huge seducers.
His wife gave an interview a month or two ago talking about how hard marriage was. He was gone all the time and she was basically a single mother feeling isolated. She said she missed many times her exciting life as a model, but loved being a mom. So she basically sacrifices for his career, to support him, even though she is alone a lot, and this is the way he repays her.
Yup. And for years SHE was the famous one while he was a big nobody. She supported him, believed in him, moved the family for his career so he could have his time. He gets his first big chance and can’t keep his weenie in his pants. If it wasn’t with Kristen, it would have happened with some other chick. LEAVE HIM LIBERTY!!!
+1
+2
She’s young, beautiful and rich. Nobody should tolerate this, but in her case she’s a complete catch for any guy. No reason whatsoever she can’t meet someone else who will treat her well.
This.
Be very careful to give up your twenties for a guy. The rewards of your hard work is often a second wife for him.
This is why I don’t believe the article stating the brother and everyone knew all along. Wouldn’t they have said something? Would she have given this interview? Not a chance. I think she was blindsided. Her tweets the day before support that she just found out.
I think the wife hired a private dectective and got some REAL juicy pics of her louse putting a stake in the trampire. She’s using this as leverage to bring the heel to heel and get him back. But first, she wants her public pound of flesh out of K-Sidepiece. She may have been responsible for the US pictures.
I agree. but i think she did it for quick divorce and full custody. and to avoid Leanne Rimes 2.
This also explain (i think), Kirsten baffling public apology, I think she admitted to Love, Love Robert to mask something else.
Incase this kind of accusations comes up.
I like your theory aquarius64. Brother said it was going on for a while so wife must have known something was up.
But I like what V4gossip says, that the pics were for proof in court…not to get him back.
I thought California is a no-fault divorce state? Plus offers shared custody as the norm? So how would this help at all, I mean, an affair doesn’t legally affect either money or child residence, and you don’t divorce on those grounds either? Is that wrong?
Kate, Cali is a no-fault state, for both divorce and car insurance. (Ah, the sanctity of marriage.) These pix wouldn’t help her case in CA. (I have no idea about divorce in the UK; maybe one of our friends across the pond could weigh in on that?)
My Family Law Paralegal mother told me that basically, nothing short of him banging someone while snorting crack off of another’s ass in front of the children will get him supervised visitation or his rights terminated. And oftentimes, not even then. (see: Charlie Sheen/Brooke Mueller)
if she did hire PI she has more. and Kirsten do drugs, just look at red carpet (sometimes). it could be, that she also wanted to break them up so the children wont be used. this is why i think she “forgives” him. also, from how she spoke about him in interviews, he doesn’t really help with the children. all she needs to do is get a divorece and go across the pond. she just make sure the stink doesnt follow. and i don’t think it’s about the money. she has money, she just wants quite. this is what i undrstand from the last interview she did or at least that’s what she wanted, with or without him.
Thanks, bellaluna. That was my understanding from stuff you’d posted on the Cruise split and the Brand/Perry one.
I’m English, actually, and you can divorce on adultery or unreasonable behaviour (though that’s allowed to be subjective, so pretty much anything can be cited and there’s no possibility of a judge refusing it – it doesn’t at all mean the “unreasonable” person actually did anything wrong) immediately here, or you can file after 2 years of separation with mutual consent, or 5 without. But there are no financial or custody advantages to the grounds used. Money, and behaviour is ignored unless the poorer person actually tried to kill the richer, or something equally outrageous, and child residence and the only question is what would be best for the kids, which is almost always their primary carer. So these pics wouldn’t help her in the least because an affair isn’t relevant to money or custody. And the humiliation for the kids at school would, I imagine, deter most mothers from this as a strategy when choosing grounds for the divorce paperwork. I mean, schoolmates will be able to google these in perpetuity.
She’s a bigger person than I am if she takes him back. Cheating is a deal breaker for me. And I’m sorry, a silly flirtation is giggling and making googly eyes at each other-this was an affair, however brief. And what a pathetic stereotype it was. They’re both assholes for doing it.
The entertainment value of this has been the rabid reaction of the Twi-hards. The warring conspiracy of which relationship is a hoax.I’m also curious to see how the PR/ marketing teams handle this during the promotion for the next TwiHard movie.
All that being said I’m really not interested in hearing about Liberty or her kids. They deserve privacy and respect. Especially since some of the rabid Kristen fans have already tried to villify her. If she speaks to the media that’s one thing until then she’s off limits in my book.
What disgusts me is the use of the kids pictures on a lot of sites. I hope CB continues to take the high road and not post pictures of those poor children.
Agreed!
Ofcourse, his wife will forgive him. She knows Rupert will eventually come back to her after this public humiliation. She will forgive him for the sake of her kids.
Ok, this is funny! What Sanders Senior said. “if you’ve been gadding around for five months, or what have you, you’re bound to get a bit friendly.” *rolls eyes* THIS is what you call friendly? We all are pretty women and our idea of getting friendly is NOT dry humping our friends.
And Giovanni says, “It was just biscuit munching and not s3x.” Give me a break! Whatever you call it trying to make it look innocent, but they did was just WRONG. I would like to see his reaction when his wife goes biscuit munching with some other dude. :p
I agree with Kaiser, may be Kristen has slept with Giovanni too.
I read in one of her interviews where she says as a kid/teen actor, she tried to be in the company of adult directors so that she could get work. SWATH 2 is going on floors very soon. I guess Kristen was trying to get work by offering her to these directors. (I want to puke now)
Uhh! Seriously, how could you sleep with this douche when you got a hot guy as your boyfriend? *barf*
Please. Seems like women usually take back cheating men.
Sad but true. Me I would NEVER TAKE HIM BACK. Nope, wouldn’t do it. I have too much self respect and too much respect for my children to allow said adulterer back in my home as hubby. The kids will have every-other-weekend Daddy, or some such arrangement, and they’ll survive just fine.
So Liberty my dear fellow woman/wife/mother…onward and upward from backseat biscuit eating boy previously known as your husband.
I think its much easier to say you’ll never take back a cheater than it is to actually do so. Also, implying anyone who does take back a cheater doesn’t respect themselves or their children is very rude.
Katren…if my opinion is rude to you so be it. My Dad cheated on my Mom with his 8 year younger secretary. I was 5 and my brother was 9. My Dad was a good father, but obviously a lousy husband.
Marriage is never easy from either side (says this woman who has been married for almost 28 years) and each put up with a lot to make it work. But as I stated in my position, I have enough self worth to not tolerate cheating by my spouse because NOBODY deserves to be treated with that much disrespect.
How many directors has she boned? She was really working the chemistry on set…great actress!
Not only will Liberty take him back but I’ll bet good cash money that a) he’s done it before and b) in a few months, she’ll do a ‘how I got over my heartbreak’ glossy shoot, maybe even with him & kids (dry heaves). She is totally the type. But I do stand in my v lonely corner that it wasn’t a one off OR long term, not least cos of her shoddy acting skills, & Sparkles ain’t that thick IMO.
Clearly, no one knows anything so I’m intrigued by what happens next – if any more pics, will there be an ‘It’s over’ People cover, will it burn out with lack of any info & conflicting stories – Gah!
He’s so gross.
+1
All this talk of biscuits is giving me the munchies for literal biscuits. I need to find a tall glass of milk and some oreos. The popcorn is becoming a bit too gross.
Why is that grown-ass dude director giving his unfortunately ill-timed and completely unnecessary but totally harming two scents? Does it really matter if tab A went into slot B? Is it less cheating if all they did is suck on each others parts? All his statement does is make me wonder if maybe she totally didn’t have sex with him as well. As someone said in a past post, I’m sure a lot of directors who have worked with Stew must be having some pretty awkward conversations with their SO.
And I can’t with the prejudiced ignorant people who use her age as an excuse for the massive circus she got herself in. 22 is not an age when one can be called a “girl”. You’re already an adult, or you should be.
This is just a horrible combination of willful stupidity and ridiculously fortunate opportunities which exploded in Stewart’s face. Had she been a nobody we wouldn’t even care enough to say “who?”. Had she had even a lick of sense.. well, there’s no use trying to imagine the impossible.
I’m not going to blame either of the wronged parties (Liberty or Rob) if they choose to forgive and reconcile.
As we have seen both with celebrity couples and I’m sure we’ve seen in our own lives, sometimes couples can get past infidelity and actually come out strong and happy on the other side (the Beckhams, Goopy and Chris Martin).
Liberty has been with Rupert since she was a teenager- she has two children with him. Leaving him doesn’t just change her life, it changes their lives. So no judgment whatever she decides (unless she decides to forgive him and publicly blames Kristen, which is “just against the rules of feminism!” [no situation can’t be improved with a Mean Girls quote]).
It’s a crap situation for both of them. I feel for Robert, since he’s going to have to go through with a huge promotion for the last film with Kristen.
It’s call oral SEX. Geez. Also kristen always seemed asexual to me.
Stay Strong KRISTEN STEWART!
Abby you are so right, KS should stay strong! Keep a strong hold on your panties around married men KS! Flex those panty holding muscles.
Eyes rolling right out of my head
She made a sh*t decision. I don’t condone it but i don’t think the amount of slag she’s getting is- right.
But i guess that’s what happens when your a woman.
So i hope she stays strong.
People are not just giving her a hard time because she is a woman, its because she comes across as a brat who is ungrateful for all the good fortune in her life, she positioned herself as being above Hollywood and then had an affair with a man who she worked with, knew was married with kids, also worked alongside his wife and its reported that she brought his daughter out for ice-cream just 8 weeks ago.
A more cynical person would come to the conclusion that she pursued him and worked her way into his family by befriending his wife and children and maybe just hoped that they would be caught in the affair to force his hand- to either be with her romantically or hurt his family by revealing this affair.
Edit to add that I still think that Sanders is the scum that makes amoeba feel queasy
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Isn’t this mess what she wanted? She ASKED for it when she gave this interview where she said her life would be too easy. Stay strong? What a joke.
Shoud read: stay strong Liberty, the kids, and Robert
“Does anyone else now think that Kristen slept with him too? Because that’s what I think.”
Yup she MUST have slept with all her directors (male and female) because why else would someone defend her. Right….
I thought Agnelli was the producer, not director, but whatever.
Regardless, he should have kept his mouth shut and just spoken to Kristen privately if he wanted to support her. He did delete the tweet shortly after.
Agnelli seems to like being in the drama, he was one of those saying that the pics were photoshopped (referring to missing ear and shit) when the first one hit.
Of course people will speculate, that’s what gossips do. Right or wrong.
I totally thought the same! This Agnelli guy must be crazy – he defended her before and praised her pretty high.
By the way why does he know she didn’t have sex with Sanders? Was he with them?
Whatever he does producer, director he still has the right to an opinion. I just find it funny that because he supports her (or did) then they must have slept together.
Nah, I just thought his quotes about Kristen at the time when they did their film together was a bit too much – like I was suspicious what’s going on there, but couldn’t point it out.
This defending now is pretty weird – I mean are they besties or why does he know they didn’t sleep together??
He has the right to an opinion, sure. People also have the right to judge his ass, then.
If he takes his support and opinion public, then the public will react.
He can’t know for sure what went on between Rupert and Kristen, so to emphatically state that there was no sex is just daft.
She might have slept with others too. I don’t doubt it.
There are some fansites of her where they have her pictures unfiltered, every day walking down the ally pics. and she has a whole different persona there. There are her full body hugs with directors, old man. pics of her fighting with directors in street and pics of her looking inside her pants while another old man watch. Hilarious.
the way this Giovanni is defending her reminds me of the days when sparkle would fawn all over her. like she can do no wrong. In over all picture I think she does uses casting couch. She is as shrewed as they come.
I dont think Rob or Kristen are going to release any further statements or talk about anymore. Which means the tabloids are (already) making up stories of there own. The latest one is that Rob is talking to random woman at hotels about his feelings cause he doesnt have anyone else to talk to. Then theres another rumor that hes in London with his family. I think its goin to get ugly and it sounds like they are going to make Rob look bad too. I really hope that Rupert does an interivew with Matt Laur or somebody explaining what happened.
Stewart’s fans are already saying it’s Pattinson’s fault she cheated on him. Go figure.
Blaming the “victim” never works in the long run…but desperate idiots try it over and over and over again as a defense.
What the hell is this other director dude doing chiming in. Unless he was there directing the biscuit munching he has no idea if there was penetration.
Oh Mort lmao…you know it’s KLewd’s PR team doing damage control (ha-ha). I mean it is ludicrous isn’t it? This saga is now adding a daily dose of douche bags to the smut pile…first Sanders antiquated father and now this Giovanni whatever guy, whose claim to fame is a producer of a movie Lewdy was in whose synopsis is “On a business trip to New Orleans, a damaged man seeks salvation by caring for a wayward young woman.” Yeah, he’s credible huh?
The director guy (Gio) is friends with both Rob and Kristen and I dont think he has ever slept with Kristen. He descrided her as his little sister and when this story broke he tweeted something about waking up in the morning about missing his ear. When this story first broke her fans where saying in was photoshopped because it looked like she didnt have an ear on the pic thats on the cover. Im thinking he was just as shocked as everyone else.
Homeboy had an itch to scratch! He couldn’t help himself! Lol, I’m so sorry. I couldn’t help myself…
That’s what he said! Ahh! Oh man. Any tagline you add to that video of him with his hands down his pants automatically works with his affair too! We should have a competition!
One time or not, I always use the “if you wouldn’t do it in front of your partner, then it’s not appropriate” rule.
I still think this is a PR move. I think Dudes marriage was on rocks and almost over. I think they planned It to destroy the gay rumors for Kristen, although after looking at the Nikki Reed pics and her in Lesbian Chic and the tell tale Lesbian butterfly on the face i.e. Red nose, glowing red cheeks, I think this is a deflection. Im not a Twi hard, but any PR is good Pr as you get people talking. She is a very awkward girl, and even some of the photos are awkward. We dont know her, she may have pursued him, knew the marriage kaputs, freed her from Rob, garner publicity for the movie and squashed gay rumors. Many ways to go here with this as we see pics but do we actually see him in her muff. It still seems bizarre to me, and the public apology. In any event, a new PR team stat.
+1
Word!
So this was the easiest route for her to disengage from Rob? Please. That would have been easy and clean. All they had to do was just stop showing up in public together. Done. People would catch on over time, start speculating. The “are they still together or not” question would engage the fans, not repel them, leading into BD2 promo. No harm to the franchise. Now, there is evidence that BD2 sales may be affected, as there is likely to be a lot less repeat business from disappointed (and disgusted) fans.
You really think this guy agreed to drag his kids through the mud, even “if” (a big if) his marriage was over? I can never buy that. And that Liberty agreed to look like a humiliated, cheated on wife? For what? And how would it help him? Mark my words, he is OUT as the Snow White sequel director. OUT. He brought negative attention to a new franchise and tainted it with scandal. Not smart. It doesn’t help it in any way. Trust me, Universal is pissed.
Conspiracy theories abound. But this one makes no sense if you think about it rationally, and with your business hat on.
LOL.
So another director is saying that she didn’t have sex with Rupert. How does he know? This is just hilarious.
Yeah, anyway I bet she slept with him too. You’re such a badass Kristen *eye roll*
I don’t think I would either.I hope I would never take a cheater back.I would be very disappointed in myself.
I find it hilarious that some director she worked with years ago is issuing a statement like he was there all the time and has any idea of what happened. Puh-lease. I like the theories above that he’s projecting their own experience onto this!
The comment from Sanders father is very telling, if that’s how blithely he views someone cheating on their spouse and destroying their family, I can see where Rupert gets his attitude about it.
Desperation is awful to watch. What message does this send their kids? “Hey kids it’s okay to be a married lying,backstabbing piece of filth as long as you have money.”
Both sides are guilty: the man and the woman. It’s takes two to tango. Both were too spineless to talk with their partners about their problems so this is what happens.
The women that condone/forgive cheating are ALWAYS emotional or physical cheaters, or wannabe cheaters, themselves. There is usually one “cheater forgiving” female friend in every pack. There is always one that has “emotional” relationships or “friendships” with mostly men, then starts “FWB’ing” them, married or not.
Those are the ones you keep away from your bfs/husbands. You’ll know because the husbands will either make it a point to stay away from them(that will be your hint) or he will publicly curse their backstabbing behinds out.
Seriously? A woman who is cheated on, and isn’t willing to throw away decades of marriage and her children’s stability and home and live-in relationship with their father, is ALWAYS a wannabe cheater?! That’s complete rubbish! What sort of one-dimensional emotional landscape is that? It’s on a par with thinking you can analyse a human being solely via horoscope. Any kind of woman can be cheated on, and only someone utterly shallow would walk on a marriage with kids without extremely careful reflection. I wouldn’t presume to judge someone in that situation, let alone think it made them as bad as the cheater. And you seriously think a woman who forgives a cheating husband will be after yours? Why on earth? Just bizarre.
Personally I think women who are cheated on often stay the first time because they don’t want to lose all the good aspects of their relationship. If it happens again, they’ve often not got the self-esteem to leave. And in my opinion serial cheating is a form of emotional abuse. To blame the victim in that situation is pretty horrible, in my opinion.
What about the trust aspect though? One which, IMO, is absolutely crucial in a relationship. Say the wife takes him back after he cheated; how can she ever trust him again? Wouldn’t she always wonder, even a little bit in the back of her mind, if is indeed where he says he is? How long do you think she’d manage to endure that amount of uncertainty and doubt?
I’d say pretty soon there’d be nothing left to the relationship except the very practical or selfless aspects you mentioned. And let me tell you, kids pick up on these things like you wouldn’t believe and very soon even the “stability” of a home would seem like not worth it.
Personally, I could never weather it out in that type of relationship circumstances.
@original almond I don’t disagree with you. What I disagree with is a blanket statement that all women who forgive cheaters “are wannabe cheaters” themselves, whose female friends should never trust them. That just seems completely insane to me, and the most bizarre effort to blame Liberty Ross for what Kristen Stewart has done yet – and the competition was already pretty strong!
What I find most disturbing is this man Sanders predilection for young women. If you take into consideration how young Liberty was when he pursued her in relation to his age, he “waited” until she was 18 and he is 8 years older than her, yet probably would have taken her younger if allowed! You can see why he has an attraction to Stewart. He may be perpetually trying to recapture the romanticism of young love, when he fell for Ross so many years ago. And Stewart may be 22 now, but she was younger, even if by a year, when they were filming. Take off the make up and costumes and Stewart loses a good few years on her as well. She looks like a teenager in that video clip, hardly a sexy woman like Theron! I do think Sanders may have exploited Stewart’s youth, a woman like Charlize would have put him in his place if he had propositioned her! He probably knows how vulnerable and naive younger women can be.
Even if Ross takes him back, he will stray again, especially as she gets older and he most likely stays attracted to young women. I wonder if she recognizes it in him???
I also wanted to add that none of the photos that have been published of him and Stewart make me think she was that into it. I only saw one photo of their lips touching, and tons of them pawing each other, which looked awkward at best, not at all passionate. He may have been horny, but she looked like she was tolerating the attention more than she was enjoying it.
I still do not understand this whole scandal. Of all the men in all the world, she chooses Sanders or perhaps accepts his advances, and gets caught in such an obvious way. We will never get the whole story, but what it does prove is that no one knows the human heart…
I think you have a point.
On one of those pro-Kristen sites that was linked her, there was a clear gif of her signaling for him to back off as he tried to touch her.
Unless they photoshopped it of course :p
AT the dinner table?!?!?!?!? SERIOUSLY?
And not at home, amongst family, but at a nice restaurant, during dinner with co-workers?
Bad form!
At the dinner table, WHAT? I agree with Theresa. For all of those who never liked Kristen in the first place,this has been an excellent venue to vent their hatred.
She is not the first who gets involved with a married man and I am sure she will not be the last.
As a grandmother, I STAND BY HER AND I AM PRAYING THAT SHE FINDS PEACE. EVERY ONE CAN MAKE A WRONG DECISION. NONE OF US ARE PERFECT!
To her true and loyal fans, pray for Kristen, she needs our prayers!
Oh sally, don’t be silly.
We were venting our ‘hatred’ long before Kristen f-cked a married man. Nothing’s changed for us. 😀
Sally, your commentary is actually very sad to me. Since clearly you have put this 22 y/o on some type of pedestal that she doesn’t belong and that fact that you seem to condone women who “do it with married men” with an obvious shrug of the shoulder. Sad that someone who is a grandmother wouldn’t KICK THEIR GRANDAUGHTER’S ASS for getting involved with married man. I know I would if one of my kids (17, 21, and 24) hook up’s was married.
If I am going to pray for anything, it’s going to be more people to have personal responsibility then the pathetic lack of it as has been shown here repeatedly.
As a grandmother????
Oh Please. You’re probably one of those Kristen fans that lies about her age so that no one insults you. I’ve read your comments, you can’t be over 15.
Kristen don’t need no damn prayers. Sit down. God saw her getting her minge eaten out in broad daylight in her mom’s mini-cooper, wearing her boyfriend’s hat. He ain’t got time for this.
What you so called ‘true fans’ need to do is admit that your girl Kristen dun goofed and get over yourselves. Some of you K-Stew fans are doing the most and making straight fools of yourselves.
I may not be perfect but I don’t f*ck married men boo. And it seems that Kristen fans aren’t f*cking ANYBODY tbh. Maybe that’s why their so damn crazy.
Oh my god, like Scientology – lol!
@ Crystal, So it did happen in a Mini Cooper?! That’s so funny to me. They should try it in a Karmann Ghia! 😉
LOL. IKR. That must have been hella uncomfortable. Next time her ass should try it in a hotel room so she doesn’t get caught.
I feel bad for everyone involved in this situation. I’m sure Kristen and Rupert now realize what complete idiots they were to go down this road with each other. I don’t know too many people who haven’t done completely idiotic things in their life (including me!) The problem for them is that this is so public. They not only cheated, they humiliated their partners, their families, their co-workers. They flaunted their selfishness and showed contempt for everyone else by being so irresponsible. I know that Hollywood folks seem to thing they are “above the law,” but I hope the backlash for them is pretty strong simply because I hope that they learn the lesson that you cannot treat others with such disregard and not have consequences. I don’t think Rob will take Kristen back — he may be a sensitive soul but he also seems to have a strong sense of self. And finally, I think the strong sentiment against Kristen at this point is that she presented her self as the anti-Hollywood cliche. And then, is it possible she turned out to be the biggest cliche of them all?
He is a douchebag in every sense of the word. So is his father. And his wife? She is a fool. That is all.
I’m sad for Liberty Ross if she folds into prostituting her family for the sake of her husband’s career and for the economic windfall of being involved in a movie with the Hollywood property that is this unappealing boy-girl Kristin Stewart. Patterson can do much better than this girl. The whole damage control strategy is obviously studio-run when some director out of left field compromises himself for that twit.
The wife may be considering an attempt at reconciliation. Since they’ve been together since she was 18 and he’s the father of her children, it’s going to be devastating for her to walk away.
A lot of women when they find out they have been cheated on are in shock, and the husband will use the fact that the women is disoriented (wouldn’t you be if your world fell aaprt?) to charm and manipulate her into agreeing to a reconciliation. Doesn’t mean it will stick.
It just means that this person whose life just got turned upside down has a long, long way to go before things are okay again.
She should take the kids and go back to Britain. That’s where her extended family are, and as a single mother of two she’s going to need them.
I couldn’t care less about any of them, but holy crap, who does that in a restaurant???
So…she totally slept with Giovanni Agnelli too? That was the stripper movie. She practiced her stripper moves on him! hahaha Seriously, anybody wanting to defend them needs to not talk because it won’t work. Like Rupert’s father needed keep quiet, there is no defense for either of them.
That video, ugh, TMI! Did they need to zoom in?
him groping his balls has nothing to do with the affair but its just gross and downright rude in a restaurant. even if he was with a group of guys.
but looking at kristen and sparkles hygiene maybe she likes it gross. (leo di caprio is her next guy or johnny >no toothbrush< depp, mark my words!)
micheal sanders sounds like an asshole excusing his son for running around on his wife with a woman 20 years younger then himself just because they were working together. maybe he got his disrespectul and entitled attitude from his father.
People only see what you want to see. Firstly, his hand is in his hip area (as he is facing the opposite direction) so he is not fondling his boner. Secondly, if you look at the supposed sexual tension shot being paraded around town, Stewart is actually gazing at Theron! Who is hidden by Sanders, who is looking down at the table. Its more likely that Stewart was sleeping with Theron judging by the tension in all the pics of those two during the production. LOLs.
So just because he didn’t have his dick in his hand it’s ok that he was digging for treasure in his underwear? In a restaurant, where he was dinning with his coworkers? Who does that and who thinks it’s ok?
Um, did we just watch the same video? And Charlize wasn’t the one in the mini.
A serial cheat who’s a proven pig.. take him while he’s rich, retire and live nicely.. get the checks too.. and watch him slowly melt from money and fame power to unknown from rabid hatred of fans of Kristen, Rob and his own society of entertainment industry… He is such a worthy fool.
Ugh! That video really shocked me. It looked like he was wearing Pull-Ups or Depends. So nasty! Also, did they do the deed in a Mini Cooper?
Twihards are seriously crazy. Like more fervent than scientologists or Chris brown fans. The ones that were talking about their suicides being murder by Us weekly over this. Seriously. It scared the shit out of me. It’s like an army of blind 13 year old warriors flocking to her. I honestly would have seen it go another way. The ‘oh em gees she broke sparkle’s heart! Kill her with fire’ way. But instead it’s all victim shaming, irrational arguments online, and complete denial.
I said this before. Some of these girls are so young. and they are overly emotional. I remember being that way. And I said that I was afraid one of them may do something to harm themselves. Especially if something else damaging comes out.
Now we are all taking here and speculating. BUT the vast majority of us are not teens or children. But can any of us imagine what would happen if one of these girls hurt herself over this. I get scared every time I click on a story on some sites because I’m sure come Wednesday there will be way more covers and stories about this. The other rags have not had their chance to weigh in on this. I actually think that it would be better if these children were in school and not on summer break.
This is not going away any time soon.
I know. I was only half joking when i told a friend i thought that they would go on a rampage beating people with cardboard cutouts from twilight, or severely injure/kill themselves while laying on them. They’re very impassioned, confused, and young. I don’t want anyone getting hurt over this, but it feels like it could happen. Hiding magazines, making videos, tweeting about being suicidal and crying over this…. It’s genuinely worrying.
I know very little about these people by choice. This doesn’t seem to be the case, but it disturbed me slightly that there is a bit of power imbalance and age difference that in some cases could lead to a sexual harassment sort of situation.
The director’s father’s comment of boys will be boys was quite charming. I’m sure his daughter-in-law just loves him.
I know I’m going to catch some heat for this, but I really don’t understand why people feel the need to judge other women for taking a cheater back. I understand that for some people it’s a total deal beaker, and I respect that. But, maybe for some people it’s not.
If Liberty wants to take him back, I can understand that. They’ve been together since she was a teenager, and he’s the father of her children. I would consider taking him back under those circumstances too. Honestly, I feel bad that she both has to deal with this situation in the first place, and that she has to deal with everyone acting as if they know what she should do about it on top of that.
If she leaves him, the blogs and tabloids will love her. She’ll be the new, higher profile, Brandi Glanville. But, maybe she’ll be throwing something away that she’ll later regret tossing aside. If she stays with him, she’ll be torn to shreds by all the gossip hounds out there who will claim she has no self respect, or that she’s in it for a pay day.
I just hope she’s either totally ready to leave her husband and move on with life, or prepared for the undeserved amount of vitriol she’ll surely have to deal with if she sticks around.
As for K-Stew and the dong grabber (ew… In a restaurant? Gross), no sympathy there. They get whatever they get from this mess.
I SO totally agree with you. I used to say cheating was a deal-breaker…PERIOD. Until I got married and had kids. Neither of us cheated, but I can honestly say I don’t know what I would decided if it had happened. It would depend on a lot of factors.
She needs to do what she feels is the best choice for her. I can say IF she does stay that it will be a very hard road for her internally. If he continues to be a director, he will be spending a lot of time away, away with actresses and that will be a hard pill to swallow after an affair.
This is MY opinion of why not to take a cheater back. Simple … trust.
When raising kids and keeping a marriage going there are so many daily forces to work through…you trust each other to be there for one another on an emotional level (regardless of career) and work through and work out the obstacles that surely happen. Cheating on a spouse is pure selfishness…the whole wanting your cake and eat it too adage … especially how this particular adulterous escapade seems to have gone!
Now, the wife or the husband who has taken the cheater back in order to rebuild their marriage and family life, where clearly “trust” has been broken, is putting on their own shoulders an added burden of mentally getting past the hurt/shame/embarrassment etc. of the cheaters actions. Is there honestly a human being who could take back a cheater and not live the rest of their days wondering if they will or have done it again? How mentally and emotionally exhausting to put yourself through that because of your spouse’s selfishness in breaking trust not to mention the basic marriage vows of “love, honor, protect (insert feelings here). Hell of a way to live if you ask me.
Depends on the situation, but when children are involved, it’s a total different decision in my opinion – unless the guy/woman is a total asshole one should really think about breaking up twice.
But Chatcat, you have a point. Tough decision.
With all the desperate dumb moves by her PR team to save Stewart’s bacon, I was wondering about her contracts. Specifically, the Balenciaga perfume deal and the Breaking Dawn 2 deal. (BD2 is $12.5 plus a percentage of the box office take.) What if one or both of those contracts have a morals clause in them, which states any public behavior (defined as immoral or criminal)that negatively impact revenues (perfumes sales and box office receipts)and profit margins for the companies, the offender (Stewarts)is dropped as a representative and/or forfeits all monies earned and any future revenues (a cut of DVD sales). Pro atheletes in the US have been known to ink such deals. This is the only reason I can see this desperate PR strategy. Thoughts?
Bingo. This is why I laugh at the theories that this was planned PR. She has business deals that are negatively affected by this. Balenciaga, back-end movie profits, and more. She often covers magazines, and likely would have had a cover coming up in the fall. You won’t see that now. And in the short term, some movie roles may be affected. For example: people would not buy her as a Snow White type character now. She’ll be typecast as the bad girl for awhile.
I’m not saying she can’t rebound. With time, and the right steps, she can. Look at RDJ. But she needs to stay low, stay quiet, and start rehabbing her image. I seriously wonder if there are mental health issues involved, this smacks of a manic episode of a bipolar person (the brazen, out in the open setting), or some other kind of mental breakdown. If so, she needs to get treatment now. Before the problem gets worse.
Robert Pattinson and Taylor Lautner have the same deal for BD2. If the box office takes a hit, she’s messed with THEIR money too. I would not blame them for being angry at her for this.
As for movie roles – On The Road is going to be a mess. She’s butt naked in the middle of a sex sandwich with two guys….IN A CAR. Nice publicity for the film.
Secretly Giddy!
That last picture of Rupert Sanders and KS looks like he is thinking that this is the picture he will look back on later and life and secretly know that he had been with her.
I think Sanders has feeling towards Kristen. That why his wife is putting all the blame on her.
I agree 100%. He likes her alot!
How on earth do you have enough information to make a claim like that that his wife is “putting all the blame on her”? Nobody knows what Liberty Ross is thinking, let alone whom she blames and how much. This is so weird sometimes, it’s like people are writing their own scripts for other people’s lives. And Kristen Stewart’s fans are casting her as Zuleika Dobson, to boot.
this story is really getting so dumb, what Kristen did was bad, a terrible decision on her part, but can we please stop trying to destroy a life of a 22 year old, she has plety of time to grow from this and become a better person, why people want to see her die or with a career on the ground is beyond me, she didn’t kill anybody, stop with the crucifixion of this girl.
Sanders is a pig, and if his wife takes him back he is a lucky bastard, he is literally free from all blame, with not a single scratch on him, he is not the one that has to do tv apperances and face the consequences, ohh no thats all on Kristen, she is the one that’s going to pay for it.
I think she needs to lay low for a little bit, but also keep doing her job,she has always been proffessional, and always has done her job accordingly, stop with the bs that she has slept with directors, she didn’t need to do that, now or before.
she definetely needs to GROW up, and not have an attitude, or finger flipping, she needs to humble herself, and I think she will, and most importantly give hersef time and find herself a good guy, someone that she really loves and just keep going with her life
She had a good guy, but decided to cheat on him. Think she will cheat on the next good guy too?
I had an entire large pizza last night. Felt bad about it, but probably gonna do it again tonight, right? /sigh
The difference is that the pizza hurts nobody but yourself.
Cheating first hurts someone else.
Whatever! You talk about the young fans, who are you to be passing judgement on the young fans and on me. I have a right to my upinion, my opinion is different than yours. KS is a victim of the “dirty old man” and of the nastiest comments that have been said about anyone. I happen to like Kristen, the kid is a simple, naive kid trying to fend away the old guy. He is into very young girls, the first one was his wife. Now, most of you are passing judgement just because it’s Kristen. When the old man is scrathing his balls, Kristen is on the other side of Theron. How is KS responsible for that. I am not a 13 yr. old fan, but I am blessed with seeing the “good and positive’ in any human being. I have always been a leader, I don’t go with the flow.
I will continue to pray for Kristen and Pattinson,
they are victims of the dirty old man. Most say that she is 22 and should have known better, but you
don’t always see clearly when you are dealing with
a very experienced preditor, they are smooth operators. They seek the young and vulnerable.
LOL. Got to bed now.
That’s enough bullsh-t for one day.
Kristen is NOT a naive young girl.
We’re not talking about 15 yr olds and 40 yr olds here.
They are both adults. Both at fault.
Sure he’s 19 years her senior, which is just gross, but she was a willing participant.
She was no victim.
Whatever you’re selling, we’re not buying.
This reminds me of the Oprah interview when they were working on Kristen’s image, they were selling the extremely shy innocent girl. Then shortly after, she went to Australia and behaved like the prat she is. Ruined that attempted image makeover.
Rewind and try again, Sally.
Well Sally you have me doing a first. Recycling a previous post…
Why can’t she have been the predatory one? What no 22 year olds girls go out on the prowl and come-on to guys? It always has to be the man coming on first?
I think he is a total asswipe, and then some, for banging ANY AGE woman while being married (not separated) but honey; I see enough chicks/chickwannabe’s out and about stalking men only blaming the man when a hookup happens is naive to the point of absurdity.
And honestly, the only “simple, naive” person here has to be you. Your opinions as a woman, mother and grandmother are rather frightening. To think it can only be the man because “you like” her? OMG please, it is sickening.
“I have always been a leader, I don’t go with the flow.”
Uh huh.
To go along with with Chatcat wrote, 22 year olds most certainly can be the aggressor, and know exactly what they’re doing. One of my dorm mates in college, 21 years old, decided what she wanted was her late 30’s married with toddler biology professor. So she went after him. And got him.
Was the professor an idiot? Certainly, but my dorm mate was the aggressor.
I feel for you Sally, boy they’re raking you through the coals for having an opinion… sad.
I think what you’re saying and what you agreed to in my post is that she could very well have been taken advantage of by an older man in a power position, heady stuff for a young woman, and one who I think has lived a sheltered and pampered existence in showbiz.
Perhaps if you saw it from other’s point of view that Kristen needs to take as much responsibility for the transgression as the guy, as well as hope for the best for her, people would be a little more even tempered (?).
It’s difficult to come here and try and have an open discussion, especially on some of the hottest topics. I try and sometimes get burnt too, but in the end I really do enjoy reading everyone’s point of view here. I just do not like some of the jump-down-your-throat reactionaries. However, the internet is rife with them.
Chin up!
“they’re raking you through the coals for having an opinion”
No.
She’s being mocked for being so overly dramatic she’s almost in parody troll territory.
seriously? this website is full of drama. And the fact that you dismiss an opinion, as not being an opinion so that you can justify rude comments in response is exasperating. It IS an opinion, whether you think it’s overly dramatic or not. That I feel bad for her is none of your business. Sheesh… Exactly what I was saying in the first place, it is so difficult to have open discourse here if you slightly stray from the majority opinion.
cr, i get your point, actually after re-reading my comment to yours I know you’re not arguing whether or not it’s a valid opinion, damn sometimes I hate how heated things can get on this silly site.
However, I feel empathy for Sally, and doubt the mocking is taken lightly. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, without responses being laced with profanity and in-your-face rudeness, especially if she is a grandmother on here with a reason we might not know of to feel sympathy for someone like Stewart.
I have had enough for now, don’t want to pick a fight.
Thanks for listening.
I did mispeak in my earlier post. I said Sally’s opinion, when clearly she was offering an attitude on the sexes. I don’t dismiss or discount anybody’s opinion, if or when they are different then mine. I may wholeheartly disagree, but dismiss an opinion. NO.
Now Sally wasn’t offering an opinion, she was offering an attitude. The attitude being that because she liked KStew and that she was only 22 it had to be the older man being a predator…her attitude is very sexist…there is a huge difference between someone’s opinions and their attitudes.
Seriously.
There’s drama and then there’s DRAMA, sally’s headed waaay past the DRAMA stage.She’s hardly the only one here who’s sympathetic towards KStew, but she is one of the more dramatic ones.
I’m not saying what’s she writing isn’t an opinion (please point out where that was written). I’m saying that since she’s quite dramatic and ,um, heartfelt, about it, that does influence whether I’m actually going to take her opinion seriously. I’m not preventing her from having one or denying what’s she’s written is one.
Yuck. I didn’t enjoy this article 🙁 Despite being a bitch.
As a dude, I maintain that if present company doesn’t notice (paparazzi should not be and were not a consideration), re-adjusting your junk in public is sometimes necessary. Un-classy, but hey. Sh*t gets tangled up. Have the ladies not dealt with bra situations?
Also, the whole ‘an acquaintance or friend defends her – misguidedly or not – so clearly she must have fucked him too!’ is such a gross, awful assumption. I don’t know whether or not she did, but what a base accusation. She cheated once (that we know of and YEAH YEAH maybe repeatedly) aged 22, so all of a sudden she’s just some succubus who has gotten off every male acquaintance who thinks highly of her? That’s some bullsh*t, minivan, ANGIE IS THE DEVIL business. Come on.
hopefully not, I dont think Rob was a bad guy, but obviously there wa something missing for her to go after someone else, if everything was perfect with her and Rob she wouldn’t have cheated.
Hopefully she’ll find someone who she completely loves and of course stay faithful to the guy, I don’t think she’ll do that mistake again
I think she was bored but there are definitely classier ways to handle a break up. She’s a bratty bitch.
It’s not so much what she did as how she did it.
Couldn’t get into the Twilight books/movies….tried cause my fifth grade students were soooo into it. But, I just couldn’t. I can understand tweens getting the vapors over the drama….I’ve taught through the various “Bieber fevers” of the last ten years. What I don’t get is the adult women (single/married, with children/no children) who have completely lost their s*** over this. Grow up and get a life.
Oh puhlease!
You won’t shame us for enjoying and participating in an entertainment story or an entertainment gossip blog.
Get over yourself.
😉
Ummm…..if you read my comment coherently, I never said I don’t like snark. That’s why I’m here…I LOVE snark. I’m talking about the Twihard crazies who are freaking out. I’m surprised by adult women acting like tweens. Calm down.
Hi bb *waves*
Don’t you just love when stranger b*tches show up from nowhere and tell people to get a life ??? How are you gonna try and act self righteous on a gossip website???
Seriously. Logic, what is it?
I don’t think she means Celebitchy people. She’s talking about the Twilight fans, was my interpretation.
Yes, I interpreted this comment differently. I don’t think she is referring to celebitches. I think she is referring to the twi-moms and all the crazies on twitter and tumblr who are identifying waaaay too closely with this girl.
I don’t see anyone (or at least most of us) here “losing their sh*t” over this story. I see a bunch of intelligent women (and some guys) enjoying the discussion of a juicy story.
Metry – If that’s truly how you meant it, then I apologise.
Those of us who are regular posters on here; Crystal, Another Nina, OriginalAlmond etc, have been brow beaten for the past 1.5 yrs when it comes to our opinions about Kristen Stewart. It is why we take a defensive stance when a seemingly new person make comments like “get a life”.
Yes, Metry – we are regular scapegoats. And we don’t mean harm!!! Welcome to the forum!
Thank you, ORLY. I understand the defensivness; when you’ve been lashed out upon, it’s easy to view lots of harmless things as personal attacks. No worries, I’m incredibly thick-skinned, no harm done. I’m delurking as I recover from surgery, thus my sudden appearance. Carry on, dears!
‘Grow up and get a life.’
LOL. Ok. Makes sense to say this on a gossip website.
Such pearl clutching, dears. Indeed I was referring to the crazy Twihards. No need for such blind, rabid defensiveness.
I know you were referring to the Twihards. Here’s the deal: They read a book about eternal love and substituted the actors for the characters. They wanted to make fiction come true. They got it into their heads that Stewart and Pattinson were the great romance of the century. Now that reality has blown their fantasy to smithereenies, they can’t deal with it.
You’d think it was bad enough to see teenagers acting like that, but some of these Twihards are on the wrong side of 40.
Exactly…and now some of them have moved onto 50 Shades of Gray. No need to go so overboard.
Couldn’t get into the Twilight books/movies….tried cause my fifth grade students were soooo into it. But, I just couldn’t. I can understand tweens getting the vapors over the drama….I’ve taught through the various “Bieber fevers” of the last ten years. What I don’t get is the adult women (single/married, with children/no children) who have completely lost their s*** over this.
Boy this whole business gets goofier by the moment, doesn’t it?
I think its pretty common for a married couple with children to attempt to work these things out, following an “event” of this nature. Whether its wise, or the odds are in their favor, is something entirely different. In my experience, when people try to stay together after something like this, it leads to a loveless arrangement where the couple is anything but happy. It eventually fails, whether in reality or in spirit.
However they have kids, and they must give it a try.
Personally, I think she’s a nice looking woman, she had an interesting career and life of her own, and I think she’d be much better off leaving this man right here and now. He seems like a slimebucket; based on the quotes du jour,apparently he’s also the son of a slimebucket.
As for Stewart and Pattinson, much different situation. They should run from it on full cylinders, and while they can. I have little doubt their PR machine will place them together for a few months, there may even be some absurd story about ‘a bond even closer’ following all of this. But if that happens, as soon as the last Twilight movie fades, so will Stewart & R-Patz. Guaranteed.
I think R-Patz winds up walking away from this a bit besotten, but ultimately with his stink smelling like roses. As far as anyone knows, he held up his end of the bargain, so why hold anything against him? He’s a relatively harmless actor, and probably would have faded into obscurity in another year or two anyway. That’s ok. He’s a marginal talent who walks away very rich from being in the right movie at the right time.
Stewart, well, I think her story ends a bit differently. Big money doesn’t like it very much when you interfere with their big money 🙂 That seems to be what Stewart has done here. Comparisons that I read of on this thread, like Claire Danes for example, don’t really take that into account. What Danes did was lousy, awful, and left her with a great big X on her forehead for years. But Danes didn’t screw with other peoples millions, she just screwed Crudup. There’s a world of difference.
I think what Stewart has done won’t be forgotten so easily. She’ll be made to peter out like so many other actors and actresses that were once big and whose names you can barely even remember. I think she walks away very, very rich, and probably won’t really care that much anyway. She’ll justify that by having always said she was put upon by fame in the first place. Throughout her stardom she seems to have been her own worst enemy — that’s how it began, and that’s how it probably winds up ending. Ten, fifteen years from now they’ll do a re-make of the Twilight series; it will briefly rejuvenate the careers of K-Stew and R-Patz after which the two of them will fade into complete and utter obscurity.
The End.
Another flawless comment from you…
BOW.
that’s so kind of you Crystal. Thank you so very much!
EDIT: Just as I put this comment in I saw Shannon1972’s comment. Thank you as well 🙂
Renata…I just love your thoughtful and intelligent comments. Cheers!
*raises wine glass*
Renata…your summary of this situation was excellent. I agree with everything BUT because of kids they have to try.
Stay for the kids is never a good strategy. My parents separated, it was sad, I missed my Daddy, but I didn’t miss the tension you could cut with a knife, while my parents tried their hardest to “make it work”. Of course, they got back together, life went back to being miserable but this time Mom realized how unhappy and stressful it was for us kids and made the final break.
As it turned out, Dad never ditched “the other woman”, Mom remarried gave me two more brothers, Dad married the other woman, who wound up being a great stepmom and we all lived more contently with two households then we ever did in the one “gotta do it for the kids” household.
Moral of the story…don’t stay just because there are kids. They are not oblivious and the misery takes a bigger toll day in and day out then it does with two peaceful households.
Oh, I absolutely agree with you Chatcat. That’s why I said it leads to a “loveless arrangement”.
The thing is everyone always feels they have to give it a go, wise or not, when there’s children in the picture. It’s probably very rare for it to actually work out, but most people (just as in your family) wind up trying. And that’s probably o.k. People attempting to live up to their responsibility towards kids they’ve brought into the world — who can really argue with that?
Failing while trying to do something good for something or someone that you love is a lot different from just plain failing. Sounds like your parents cared enough about you to at least try to put on a show. I understand your having resentments though, given the brief glimpse into your own story. Sometimes there are no great answers; life and life with a family is sometimes much harder and more painful than we deserve. I had a very tough upbringing myself — much abuse. I understand and feel for you, I do.
“Ten, fifteen years from now they’ll do a re-make of the Twilight series”
Nooooooooo!!!
Excellent comment, otherwise. 🙂
I think stew will end up as a director, and I hope she will get bachelors and masters. She is a very advanced and accomplished professional but otherwise she seems clueless, embarrassingly so. She always wanted to attend University of Sydney, well, I hope she’ll find a way to go there. She is boring and a poseur and I don’t like her. But she seems a kind person, and she is very young, so I hope she’ll find her way.
Pattz is a smart and charismatic guy. If he manages to get his anxieties under control then he might drink his way into being a decent theatrical actor in London but he needs TONs of training. Otherwise, I think he would be a good writer plus he could prepare a TV program every once in awhile – he interesting to listen to.
See, surprisingly, I think that I actually feel bad for Sanders. Yes, yes, I’m well aware there is a wife and kids and scandal, etc. But I’m sure that every wife in HW is aware that most of directors do sleep with their actresses. See, it’s an industry culture. It might seems to creepy to us, outsiders but it does not change a reality. It was his FIRST movie, his wife told that he worked so hard to get there, and he screwed his chance. I doubt he’ll have a second one. It’s very difficult to start your life over in your 40s. Yes, I know all this – “he should have thought earlier”, and “he should pay for a mistake.” I know and I agree. And I still feel bad for him.
P.S. Sorry for gazillion of mistakes — didn’t get a chance to re-read my post.
Yuk, cannot stand Kristen Stewart, she knew damn well what she was doing. Wouldn’t even be surprised if she leaked this purposefully because she’s bored of ‘how perfect’ her life is and wanted to jazz it up with some drama. What an insufferable brat. Saunders isn’t any better, gross man.
Ann, don’t forget that any publicity is good publicity. Kate Moss has got more jobs now I reckon since that whole cocaine scandal nonsense. She’s everywhere.
I tend to go with the statements made by Liberty’s brother. I do hope she leaves him, goes back to England and back to her modeling career. She will always have to live with the feeling that he will cheat again, but maybe she doesn’t mind that so much. As she said, they have had their issues in the past to deal with, so perhaps they aren’t such a great match anyway. She did say ‘good things end so other things can take their place,’ or something like that, which I tend to take as their marriage will end so that she can move on to something more positive for herself. After all, if the two had not been caught, they would still be cheating, ugg.
I don’t think they had an affair at all. This is all a publicity stunt just to get the fans roused up to see their next movie. Why on earth would they knowing there are paparazzi all over the place kiss and embrace in a car or outside when they could just do it in private in a hotel somewhere?
Why? Because, at least in terms of emotions, humans can be very, very, very stupid? Sometimes it’s not a conspiracy, sometimes it’s just stupidity.
If this is a “publicity stunt” then all of them need to fire there publicist! Some twihards are saying they are not going to go see BD2 and are canceling their orders for SWATH on DVD. Kristen is now getting nicknames like “ho white and Kscrew” who would want that? Believe it or not, it is possible for two people to actually fall for each other in real life and just happend to play onscreen lovers as well.
Why would anyone agree to participate in a publicity stunt that leaves them looking absolutely despicable and their reputations in shreds?
I don’t know why people persist in saying this is a PR stunt. WHY IN THE WORLD would the studio, Kristen, Rob, Liberty, Rupert and all the dozens of other people who would have to be working together to plan on ruining careers, marriages and the lives of two young children. Not to mention risking millions upon millions of dollars.
I think too many people buy into all this PR stuff because they like to be detectives and want to see some kind of conspiracy in every thing celebrities do. Sometimes things in life are just as simple as they seem People making dumb mistakes.
I don’t know if Liberty has forgiven Rupert. She and he are in a completely different situation then Kristen and Robert. They are married with 2 small children. Years of marriage. Struggles, happiness, memories. Plans for the future. That weights a lot more then two people living together sometimes with a dog and a “possible future”. Kristen is 22. Just like when everyone heard that Miley was getting married. People said too young, you don’t know enough. The future is unknown and maybe because Rupert is not as well known he and his wife have a much better chance of surviving this. They don’t have a fanbase watching their every move. They won’t be watched and followed the way Kristen and Rob will. They won’t have fans watching them when they film another movie and asking if she is too close to the guy. did she kiss him on the mouth. Did she let him put his arms around her too long. Why is she laughing with him, Why is she wearing that short dress in front of all these men. and on and on and on. That would be Rob and Kristen if they stay together.
Different.. not the same. so Rupert may take a break and not work go away with his family and “work on his marriage”. Kristen can’t really do that. The fans won’t let that happen. Nor the media.
Kick him out like Brandi did. Trust is lost. Photos are creepy.
JUNE: Sanders describes his relationship with his wife to The Guardian: “I just knew I was going to marry her,” he says of meeting Ross when she was only 17 (he’s seven years older). “It took a while. I didn’t propose to her for seven years because I felt that she was too young and she’d resent me if she hadn’t lived. But it was good because I was off making commercials and she was modeling, so we had quite a free—not sexually free, we weren’t swinging or having other relationships…I hope!—but we both lived very independent lives, then we’d meet up. It kept the fire burning. She’s been very supportive and she’s been a strong single mother for the last year and a half, because I haven’t been around
THE GUY IS A CREEPY PREDATOR HE LIKE THEM YOUNG HE COULD TALK ABOUT KRISTEN THE SAME WAY
I just saw the photos and I am sorry but this is much to do about nothing. I get more action riding the bus to work each morning than are in these pictures. I think the media is hyping this to make money. And this seems to be a pattern because I have seen pictures where Rob Pattinson could be sitting beside a girl and people say that he is screwing her.
Wow…you get oral on the bus each morning? Lucky!
IKR. I need to get rid of my car and start taking kay’s bus.
There is no oral. JUst more BS made up by the media.
Have you even seen the photos?? Good grief, twi-hards are twisting themselves in pretzels to defend these people. There is a photo of the director’s head between her thighs. How did the media make that up?
*shakes head in disbelief*
THIS GUY IS REPULSIVE!!
U do realise he thinks Libery will never leave him. He will do it again. In fact he’s probably getting it on as we speak ( sanders and another 12 year old).
EWWWWW
A 12 year old? So now you’re labeling Rupert Sanders a paedophile, that’s a bit extreme, don’t you think?
first time to post,but have been reading cb for a long time. Anyway, just posting to say this:
To All you Twihards defending kstew here. One day soon you will all grow up. By the time you reach 33 or whatever age you find yourself married and with kinds, let’s all pray that you dont get yourself a douche of a husband who will screw a ‘naive, manipulated’ 22 y old. And also, if that unfortunate thing ever happens, i’ll be waiting here at cb to read how easily you can forgive the 22 yold because she’s ‘naive.’ im sure everyone of us will need that ‘lesson.’
I totally thought those pics of them together at that bridge looked staged. The shots were too perfect and there looked like zero chemistry/passion between them. I call shenanigans in terms of their’s being a genuine affair.
Are there any shots of them kissing on the mouth? Clothes coming off? Hands groping privates under the clothes? Were there any direct clear visible pics of the actual biscuit munching? If not, that all looked like a really PG platonic lovers’ secret rendez vouz.
Have you not seen the photos at all?
One of the photos of them in her car shows them kissing on the mouth. And whatever it was he was doing with his head down while she looked at him…I doubt it was as innocent as him just tying her shoelaces for her or helping her put her shoes back on.
And I don’t agree that it was platonic. Kristen was rubbing herself on him and sticking out her arse to him while they were on that bridge. They looked like they were, and excuse me for being crude here, dry-humping. He was also kissing her neck and shoulders.
They looked too comfortable for it not to be a full-blown affair that has been going on for months. If they only started, they’d do everything they can to hide it. They got greedy and reckless because they got overconfident that they wouldn’t be caught.
Okay yeah they were mouth kissing in the car- but these pics still look pretty non sexual un arousing to me. Also that did not look like dry humping on the bridge to me- it looked like what awkward teens who don’t know each other well do. Also, who dresses like a 15 year old skater boy and doesn’t do their hair for a tryst with their older married lover?
dry humping or nonsexual, it doesnt matter. It is STILL CHEATING. And dressing up for a lover?! GET REAL!!! Clearly you are a 13y old girl who havent lived in the real world. Havent you heard of sex even in the workplace? Oh thats right you havent, because you havent lived yet. Get over twilight! It isnt real!
XOxoXO – Who cares if they were truly having sex in her car or if what they were doing were not arousing to you? They were kissing and touching each other intimately, it’s obvious the car photos and the bridge photos weren’t the first time they were being intimate with each other.
That is called cheating, since they were involved with other people at the time of the affair.
And really, you think Kristen thrusting her arse towards Rupert is what “awkward teenagers who don’t know each other well” do? Oh, dear. The only times teens do that is when they’re horny and signaling they’re ready for some sort of intimacy.
Who dresses like a “skater boy” for a lover? People will have sex if they want to have sex, damn the surroundings and their appearance.
Kristen just came from the gym. Did you expect her to show up looking like she was going to the Oscars?
You sound like you’re in extreme denial over this. Cheating can take on many forms, it doesn’t just mean “having sex”.
It shouldn’t take a sex tape between Kristen and Rupert Sanders to convince you that they were having an affair. Open your eyes and accept it. They were cheating on their partners, and they were having an affair.
“Also, who dresses like a 15 year old skater boy and doesn’t do their hair for a tryst with their older married lover?”
At a guess, someone who’s been shagging them for several months.
Hysterical.
This is indeed a PR stunt. The interest in Twilight was well & truly dying before this. None of this will hurt Stewart, RPattz or Sanders’ reputations..he and Liberty will stay together.
Question is how Summit will play it to coincide with BD2’s release to maximum benefit.
Yes, you are so much smarter than the rest of us. It is clearly a pr stunt that benefits NO ONE, will probably hurt Breaking Dawn box office, and may prevent a SWATH 2. Throw in some little kids, it’s the perfect plan!
Interest in the last Twilight was not waning, it’s the last of the series, and was pretty much guaranteed to make LOTS of money. Your comment was “hysterical”.
“None of this will hurt Stewart, RPattz or Sanders’ reputations”
It already has, with Sanders losing the most. No SWATH 2 and doubtful he will get other hwood opportunities anytime soon. Plus his family, friends etc. That’s a huge risk for nothing.
KStew looks like a homewrecker. Rob looks like a whipped blindsided loser. Rob can redeem himself, I don’t know if kStew can. And definately not Sanders.
Rob can redeem himelf when he breaks up with her.
A few said Kristen’s career won’t be hurt, that she actually will get more offers – but at least she lost many fans. Her image is a different one now. I guess she was hard to sell for her PR team, cause she’s so edgy – this whole cheating thing won’t make it easier for them.
I don’t believe the twilight conspiracy pr theory but I do believe that Tom Cruise is dancing with joy that this knocked him off the front page…
I noticed that this lil chick’s fans refuse to beleive that she screwed that man, LOL
they screwed and they are both ugly w/tore up teeth–yuck
i don’t care about any of these people, but i like the lipstick liberty is wearing in that top photo. i wonder what it is?