Kelsey Grammer, 57, and his new bride, Kayte Walsh, 32, have a three page photo spread in Hello! that’s worth picking up for sh*ts and giggles. It’s the issue with “Inside Kate’s court” on the cover (above), and you can get it on Zinio if you’re interested. There are no less than five huge photos of Kelsey and Kayte fawning over their tiny sleeping baby, Faith, born July 17, and the accompanying interview is just as priceless. Right out of the gate Kelsey starts trashing his ex wife, and he goes on to talk about how much better and more worldly Kayte is than any of his exes, since she’s British and used to work as a stewardess instead of being a stripper. He actually says this. He also says that Kayte is the first woman who told him she wanted kids with him. He has four other kids from three other women, but none of them counted before Kayte – she’s the greatest and all his other wives were just horrible, nasty people. He doesn’t actually say this, but given his latest Oprah interview and all his statements to date, we know that’s the subtext. Here’s more:
Kelsey, congratulations on becoming a father again. Faith is your fifth child. Does fatherhood this time around feel any different to before?
“Strangely enough, it does. Of course, it’s always a fantastic experience to become a father. But – and I’m trying to say this without hurting my other children – this is the first time that I’ve been with someone who actually wanted to have children with me. Obviously I’ve been married and had children before, but this is the first time that a marvelous young woman has come into my life and said, ‘I’d love to be your wife and have your children.’ So being in the marriage I’m not in, and being part of the family I’m now part of, is a uniquely loving experience for me. It’s wonderful.”So what makes this relationship so different?
“Kayte is very different from anyone I have ever been involved with, partly because she’s English, I mean British – I’m still learning how not to offend anyone here. The big thing that I found initially interesting about her was that there was a sort of wordliness that she had that I wasn’t accustomed to, having married only American girls before. These were American girls who’d had interesting jobs – one of them was a stripper – but Kayte used to be a flight attendant and through knowing her I’ve gained a lot of respect for people in her profession. She has flown all over the world and dealt with people from all sorts of different cultures, which has given her a kind of refinement and sophistication, which I enjoy immensely.“Plus, of course, she’s a very kind and loving person.”
[From Hello Magazine, print edition, September 3, 2012]
That’s incredible, right? He can’t talk about how happy he is without completely negating his ex wife, Camille, his ex wives before her, and in turn his children. This man has some serious problems. Plus he’s putting Kayte up on a pedestal. She came to him with the fairy tale notion of marriage and kids because she had dollar signs in her eyes. His other wives weren’t as direct. What happens when he inevitably tires of her, they have issues, and he keeps all his problems bottled up? I guess he’ll find someone else who’s wonderful and perfect for him and not as much of a harpy as Kayte turned into over the course of their relationship. They’ll probably stay together for another few years though, that seems to be his M.O. She’ll be young enough to get out with a nice chunk of Grammer’s fortune and he’ll move on to a younger model. Maybe she’ll speak another language and be even more “worldly.”
Kelsey is shown with his kids on 8-25-12 and with then-pregnant Kayte on 7-2-12. Credit: FameFlynet
Gross. I hope she breaks the cycle and dumps him for someone else.
So lemme translate that for ya Kelsey. This is the first. Time a gold digger was so open and honest with her gold digger ways! She’s clearly attracted to the kind husband and father u were. Wait no. Ur an ass (ie I’ll take one kid and u take the
other). Maybe it was ur looks. Nope for sure not. Congrats!! What an idiot.
not. Yep gold? Digger.
Last sentence got all messed up. I find gimme weird and strange and her too. He has always been a jerk so mucch so that I barely feltt bad for them on their lost baby. Mean of me I know. 🙂
His daughter (with Camille) says it all with her body language. She does not want to be there. Maybe she just doesn’t like the paps or maybe she feels uncomfortable/ overlooked by her dad on this “wonderful” access visit with his new family. Can’t tell but I feel bad for her – she’s just a kid.
be assured, the paps are hollering at them all, and theyre probably saying rude, stupid things. its how they get you to look at the camera, make a weird expression, or get mad & flip the bird, etc. its GROSS.
Oh man… The people I feel most sorry for here are his other kids. Even if they’re mostly grown (and I think a couple of them are still youngish, right?), it hurts like hell to hear your father basically say, “Hey, THIS time, being a dad is great!”. While watching as the gold-digging social-climbing stepmother play nice for others.
I mean, obviously I’m projecting my own experience too much, and maybe his kids are fine with Kayte + new baby + a father who can’t shut up about this time being the charm… But honestly, that has to be hard to hear. Even as an adult, it’s still painful when my dad starts talking about how his family 2.0 is so much happier and better and blah blah blah.
I think its weird he’s still having children when his daughter Spencer just had a baby recently.
Michael Douglas says the same thing over and over. No one takes it to mean that he doesn’t love his other kid. I see a mirror between the two of them. Kirk was just as absent in Michael’s life growing up, but they are fine so perhaps Kelsey’s kids will be just as fine.
hating the wives/baby mamas doesn’t translate into hating the kids. Only an immature jerk would do that as adult issues shouldn’t be visited on the kids.
Maybe he was too busy being a drunk, druggie mess, and working all the time to be present in the prior relationships which Michael Douglas has also said.
So perhaps now he is much older, hopefully wiser, and sober, he can appreciate someone wanting to have him and not his money, his kid and actually carry the kid. Consequently he can be a better father emotionally, if not physically.
Of course all this tainted by the fact that current wife may be a gold digger and that he can’t seem to stop trash talking his ex-wives.
Only time will tell.
I’m sorry but the man is 57. I realize that men can have and do have children at any age which pisses the sh*t out of me because we don’t have the same ability…but, maybe that’s for the best. My parents were older when they had me–Mom was 40 and Dad was 43. I had a totally different childhood than my sisters. They were more involved in their careers and their lives and while they loved me more than anything, I missed out on a more active childhood.
Secondly, the fact that he actually says this child is special will and should hurt his other children’s feelings. This man is a narcissistic a$$ and he deserves what he is going to get with this new Stepford wife. She’ll leave him and take him for as much as she can. Maybe, we’ll finally be rid of him when he’s left bankrupt by all his wives? He’s already bankrupt as far as his heart and emotions go!
@Me too – you realise that Micheal Douglas and CZJ have the same age difference and met & married & procreated at same age as kelsey and his current wife???
So far that situation seems to be working out despite the insensitive remarks that Michael has made about his previous family which are a wierd parallel with Kelsey.
Why should the other kids be hurt by these remarks unless he is acting them out in private? He has been photographed in public with his eldest daughter, and going by photo assumption, they appear to be ok. Ditto Michael with his older son and his previously non available father.
If Kelsey is immature enough to act out his words in private, then he deserves all the hate he gets.
I am sorry that you are disappointed by your childhood and upbringing but people can be lousy spouses and wonderful parents and vice versa.
And if older parents, who you acknowledge loved you, is the biggest complaint you have, then you need to review what a terrible parent is. There are people in the world, on this CB board, who have terrible parents who never loved them, who did terrible things to them.
Parenting is a lottery. There is no manual. Everyone simply does the best they can. Even the truly lousy ones.
“But – and I’m trying to say this without hurting my other children – this is the first time that I’ve been with someone who actually wanted to have children with me.”
You’re doing great!
+1. If that’s him NOT hurting his children, heaven help them when the microphone goes off.
*cue the South Park guys*
“Here he is…The Biggest Douche in the Un-i-verse!!!
Great J-o-b Dooouche!”
Awesome!
You know, I used to feel bad for Kelsey, given his personal history and obvious demons. But…that’s over. The guy’s a grade A assh**e. Dad of the f**king year.
Same here. I have given him every benefit of a doubt for years, but I’m done. That man is utterly without class. He can’t even manage to get through one interview about his new baby without trashing his ex-wives, his other children, and American women in general.
Oh, and Grammar – it’s “flight attendant,” not “stewardess.” It hasn’t been “stewardess” since before you had jowls.
I watched the Oprah interview and it was weird. First of all, Kayte was literally wearing a nightgown with no bra for her big tv debut. Did anyone else notice that? Also, Kelsey seemed very simpering and phony when discussing the new relationship. When O asked Kayte some questions Kelsey looked nervous about what Kayte would say. The way he was watching her seemed like he was just wincing in anticipation of her answers. She seems perfectly normal, but just didn’t have anything interesting to say. I didn’t see anything worldly or sophisticated about her.
She seems very much like a Polygamist’s wife, very deferential to The Man, very timid and unsure of herself. It’s quite creepy.
Yes and in, oh 13 yrs will we be hearing about how he thought the marriage was over before he started and he thought a kid would be a band-aid.
Or how Kayte was so torn up over their early miscarriage that he had a baby with her out of guilt but never loved her, blah blah blah. Because he’s a saint.
It’s no accident that he ‘fell in love’ with a woman serving him drinks and handing him damp towels, 5 minutes after Camille started getting some attention (such as it was) in her own right.
I forecast that his next wife will be a worldly waitress from the International House of Pancakes. He like them servile and available.
Clearly, he did a great acting job on Frasier, cause he is an insensitive, mentally-challenged throwback in real life.
For me, Kelsey Grammer is like Alec Baldwin. They are brilliant on screen (at least in certain roles), but just completely miserable people in real life.
I was just about to suggest that they would probably realy enjoy a double date. Kelsey and Alec could bitch about their previous wives and Hilaria and Kayte could swap gold digging tips.
I totally agree.
That’s a really good comparison, Pink Giraffe. For some reason I hate Alec Baldwin slightly less.
@ Kitten: lol, ringing endorsement!
Spot on!
I used to feel bad for him because he did have a lot of tragedy in his early life, but he really is a narcissistic dick imo.
He strikes me as the kind of person who has to gush about the person he’s with now and how they are the best ever and has to run down his previous wives without a thought to how that might make his children feel. You know, it’s possible to simply say you’re very happy in your new marriage without running down your previous ones! I’m not a fan of his ex-wife either, but think of your children and try to act like a grownup. The stuff he says is so highschool! Like only THIS relationship can be praised or can be said to be love.
His kids look so unhappy in the photos above and he looks so totally full of himself. Like …he has a new family now and it’s perfect and the kids from the old relationships? Well let’s just say that I wouldn’t be surprised if they start seeing him less and less and are made to feel like old news. Based on some of the stuff I read about him missing events in their lives and then him even suggesting that maybe they should split the kids and each take one custody-wise…it’s clear he doesn’t really care about anyone but himself.
This girl is probably overwhelmed by the glamour and excitement of a rich lifestyle after working as a regular person, and he’s obviously still in his honeymoon phase. Wait honey, when the glow wears off he’ll treat you like crap too. He doesn’t seem to know what real love is and clearly doesn’t consider anyone’s feelings but his own. He strikes me as extremely selfish.
Yeah the fact that he suggested that he and his ex-wife each “get” one kid speaks volumes. He sees them as possessions. What a monster. His older (obselete) kids are better off without him.
I hate to quote Dr. Phil here (in my defense, I stopped watching years ago), but he did make a good point when he said that:
…when you insult your child’s other parent, you’re tearing down half of your child.
He is so gross in every way
All i can think now is about that pubes grazing Tatt he got
Wow. Talk about being narcissistic. Way to slam your children through dissing their mothers. And this idea that she’s so sophisticated because she was a flying waitress who happened to travel internationally?! I love how he says one of his ex wives (the stripper) had an “interesting job”. He also comes across as a dim bulb as well as being totally insensitive.
Um…please stop perpetuating that misconception that flight attendants are “flying waitress.” This is not true, OK? Serving drinks and food is just a fraction of what FAs do. Plane travel would not be safe if it were not for FAs’ expertise. The majority of a FA’s duties are safety related. Prior to each flight, FAs attend a safety briefing with the pilots and purser. During this briefing, they go over safety and emergency checklists, the locations and amounts of emergency equipment, and other features specific to that aircraft type. Boarding particulars are verified, such as special-needs passengers, small children travelling as unaccompanied minors or VIPs. Weather conditions are discussed, including anticipated turbulence. Prior to each flight, a safety check is conducted to ensure all equipment such as lifevests, flashlights and firefighting equipment are on board, in the right quantity, and in proper condition. Any unserviceable or missing items must be reported and rectified prior to takeoff. They must monitor the cabin for any unusual smells or situations and maintain certain precautions such as keeping doors disarmed or open during fueling on the ground. They assist with the loading of carry-on baggage, checking for weight, size and dangerous goods. They then must do a safety demonstration or monitor passengers as they watch a safety video demonstrating the safety features of the aircraft. They then must do a “crosscheck” ensuring tray tables are stowed, seats are in their upright positions, armrests down and carry-ons stowed correctly and seatbelts fastened prior to takeoff.
FAs must conduct cabin checks every 20-30 minutes, especially during night flights to check on the passengers, and listen for any unusual noises or situations. Checks must also be done on the lavatory to ensure the smoke detector hasn’t been deactivated, there are no issues with the equipment, nobody having trouble in there or smoking, and to restock supplies as needed. Regular cockpit checks must be done to ensure the pilot’s health and safety. On long-haul flights, water is offered every 20-30 minutes to maintain proper hydration, important for extended periods in the dry atmosphere of the cabin at high altitudes. They must respond immediately to call lights dealing with special requests and smaller emergencies including a wide variety of inflight emergencies that do happen from time to time and special requests. During turbulence crosschecks must be conducted and during severe turbulence all service equipment must also be stowed. Prior to landing all loose items, trays and garbage must be collected and secured along with service and galley equipment. All hot liquids must be disposed of. A final crosscheck must then be completed prior to landing. They must remain aware as the majority of mechanical emergencies occur during takeoff and landing. Upon landing FAs must remain stationed at exits and monitor the airplane and cabin as passengers deplane. Assisting any special needs passengers and small children off the airplane, escorting the children and following the proper paperwork and ID process to escort them to the designated person picking them up. FAs are highly trained for a wide variety of emergencies and how to respond. More frequent situations may include a bleeding nose, illness, small injuries, intoxicated passengers, aggressive and anxiety stricken passengers. Emergency training includes rejected takeoffs, emergency landings, cardiac and inflight medical situations, smoke in the cabin, fires, depressurization, onboard births and deaths, dangerous goods and spills in the cabin as well as land and water landings including the preparation of passengers and the cabin, the evacuation with slides or rafts and then the followup survival skills which include environments as open water, jungle, water, tropical and arctic climates, along with a variety of emergency equipment. Many regions mandate the presence of flight attendants on commercial aircraft, based on the passenger capacity of the aircraft and other factors. This mandate generally relates only to their function as safety technicians.
Sorry – that was long…but people’s ignorance and arrogance toward FAs gets to me.
they’re also getting more rude to the passengers they serve w/ each passing minute. speaking as one who HAS waitressed before, i’ve about had it w/ dismissive, snotty flight attendants. it’s a palpable trend. it needs to stop.
Your flying waitresses with security and emergency training you will rarely IF EVER use. And you act like aholes. Period.
True, but none of the above makes her worldly.
Hi endlesscircles- I didnt even read this due to its length.
Paragraphs are your friend – if you use them it makes it much easier to read.
I don’t know who the people around here are flying with but all of my FAs have been great. First time I was on a plane (about 5 years ago, I didn’t have much need to travel outside of state and drove everywhere) the guy was awesome to me, checked on me, brought me water and stuff to settle my stomach even though I never asked.
My job makes me fly now and I have to about every 2-3 weeks and I’ve never had a rude one. One that was tired, sure, but you treat them like people like anyone else in the service industry, they treat you like people back.
GMAB my sister is a FA.She is not worldly.She hasn’t read a book in years.She does have a pleasant demeanor and is very friendly, though.
omg. Get over yourself already. No need to post your entire job description, which is basically a check-off list.
I’m not gonna knock flight attendants, one of my parents is one. I will definitely say that my parent’s sensitivity to cultural differences has increased through interactions with many different types of people, but its nothing beyond surface differences. It’s not freaking world history or anything. And it takes a lot of hard work, that passengers don’t see. And it requires a ton of training. So I have mad respect for them. They are much more than flying waitresses, though, sure, there are bad apples in the bunch, like any profession.
There’s a lot more to it than people think. But it in no way automatically makes you worldly. Sure, some flight attendants might use their free flying benefits to travel the world and learn other cultures. But, his statement implies that flight attendants automatically learn about other cultures, through what? osmosis or something, just by being on a plane with them. Yeah, it doesn’t work that way. Just like having a British accent doesn’t make you “worldly.” Really, that whole statement of his was just idiotic. He’s just a try hard. He gets off on denigrating women, in this case, his exes, so this is his little dig at Camille. It’s not worth taking seriously, he’s just an asshole.
FA’s don’t get the respect they deserve. Sure, this post could have been more succinct, but there was a good point to be made. FA’s are worldly, especially ones who fly internationally. People usually become FA’s because they love travel and want to see different places.
FA’s are responsible for upholding airline safety policies. They are there to make sure everyone is safe and comfortable. They don’t just serve meals.
My good friend has been a FA for 20 years. She has seen people pass out, have heart attacks, throw up, everything you can imagine!
A lot of problems stem from passengers who think rules simply don’t apply to them (ahem, Alec Baldwin, I’m looking at you). Rules are there for safety! Passengers just don’t want to follow them. I was on a flight that was experiencing turbulence. The pilot lit the fasten seatbelt sign, and the FA announced that absolutely no one could get out of their seats until the plane stabilized. Pretty simple instructions. Well, I would say not less than 15 people got up to go to the loo immediately after that announcement! People don’t listen, period.
Thank you MonicaQ. I also fly at least every two weeks for work (sometimes more) and no rudeness at all. The FAs on my flights are professional, helpful and patient – often with people who don’t return the favor.
What’s up with insulting regular women and men doing a difficult service job? Let’s stick to celeb-bitching.
Judging by the sweeping nasty generalizations in this thread, I think those of you who get bad service from FAs are probably rude to them in the first place. I fly moderately frequently (5 or 6 times a year) and have almost always received above-average service. Just sayin’.
Dear Bitter Party Of One,
Do you FLY the friggin plane? No, therefore dispensable. Sorry! Yesterday’s flight attendant and today’s flying waitress have zero in common.
Right.. TLDR!
I’ve never experienced anything but professionalism, charm and kindness from FAs, myself. Despite what is, at times, extreme provocation from some of their customers.
The hostility toward cabin crew from some contributors is so uncalled for. I don’t have hostility toward drivers because someone overtook me on a blind bend. Everyone has an off day sometimes, even the Dalai Lama (or maybe not!)
Flying for a living involves Long hours, constant delays, continually changing shift patterns, jetlag, fatigue, eating airline/airport food far too regularly, in pressurised cabin environment with mediocre oxygen supply at 37,000 feet. Anonymous hotel rooms and having to wear flesh coloured tights winter and summer. And more.
It’s impossible to be the perfect cabin crew all the time.
Your sorry that was long? Most of us have jobs with long lists of responsibilities. Should we make an outline for you of every class we took in college and every detail of our professions? You could have summed that up in 3 or 4 sentences.
Re : “flying waitress” remark
A few years ago, an Air France 747 did a crash landing at Toronto International Airport, skidding on its belly across the runway and into a field where it burst into flames a few short minutes later. Those flying waitresses as you call them cleared a f**king 747 of all passengers in just under 2 minutes! Everyone survived. The in-flight crew got some grief as training standards required them to evacuate all passengers in 90 seconds or less. With regards to the +30 seconds over, I can just say that some bitches are just hard to please!
Also some of the passengers later complained that the flight attendants had been rude because they yelled at them as the evacuation (all 120 seconds of it) was going on!
I’m with you. I look at FAs as much more than just attendants there to serve soda and packets of pretzels. Heck, if that’s all they were good for, airlines probably would have dispensed with them since they barely serve anything on flights now.
And while I don’t fly all the time, I’ve flown quite a bit and have had relatively few rude FAs. Most have been pleasant enough.
I take these comments with a grain of salt because I actually heard someone refer to pilots as glorified bus drivers. Yeah, OK then.
Don’t get too comfy Kayte, he has an M.O.
As a person he is a creep; as an actor, he is excellent.
Feel sorry for his other children and his ex wives.
He is turning into the male Halle Berry. When he is first with someone they are the most amazing person ever and then when it’s over it’s all the womans fault.
You hit the nail on the head. Can you imagine those two together?… I think its just so disgusting how he cuts down his exs’ at every opportunity. I guarantee the “stripper” meet more cultured people in her adventures than his flight attendant wife.i appreciate FAs, but their duties don’t exactly include reading Tolstoy, drinking rare Chinese teas with pinkies up, learning the the temperamental nature of macaron pastries or studying ancient Egyptian texts whilst on a Goopy-approved hike in the Nepal mountains. Goodness!
You hit the nail on the head. Can you imagine those two together?… I think its just so disgusting how he cuts down his exs’ at every opportunity. I guarantee the “st-ipper” meet more cultured people in her adventures than his flight attendant wife.i appreciate FAs, but their duties don’t exactly include reading Tolstoy, drinking rare Chinese teas with pinkies up, learning the the temperamental nature of macaron pastries or studying ancient Egyptian texts whilst on a Goopy-approved hike in the Nepal mountains. Goodness!
You hit the nail on the head. Can you imagine those two together?… I think its just so disgusting how he cuts down his exs’ at every opportunity. I guarantee the “dancer” met more cultured people in her adventures than his flight attendant wife.i appreciate FAs, but their duties don’t exactly include reading Tolstoy, drinking rare Chinese teas with pinkies up, learning the the temperamental nature of macaron pastries or studying ancient Egyptian texts whilst on a Goopy-approved hike in the Nepal mountains. Goodness!
If someone speaks in exactly the same terms about every new partner (love of their life, couldn’t let this one get away, most kind and loving person ever… same words) when they’ve overlapped the old and the new, then IMO they are incapable of a genuinely reciprocal relationship. They just want a companion for their illusions.
Halle is in a class all her own. He’s a typical man with a lot of money who marries a lot.
I really like his daughter Spencer, I watched her series Greek. It must be so awkward to have step moms your own age.
Totally agree with all that see the pattern, it’s typical of many people (men and women) who leap from partner to partner, always looking for a certain feeling or to recapture the novelty of first love and passion. That so many children are involved is the saddest part. I WOULD NEVER NEGATE any previous relationships that involved children in this way. I think he is totally dissing the mothers or the ex-wives, but in such a strange and hurtful way. He could have said his exes didn’t want to be with him, used him, etc. but leave the kids out of it.
He has no filter or perspective except tunnel, and this current relationship will no doubt end as poorly as all the others.
My father walked out on my mom on Christmas Day, leaving her (a stay at home mom) with no job and three toddlers. Life was a daily struggle to get by for almost all of my childhood but she never once trashed my father to us. She didn’t want us to hate him because then we would have to hate a part of ourselves. And she didn’t need to trash him–his actions spoke louder than her words. Whenever I see celebs trashing their exes, I get totally disgusted. Grammer is only trashing this kids when he disrespects their mother.
+1
Excellent to hear about your mom, and to see that you recognize the effort it took to put you first!
I know how difficult it is to take the high road for the sake of the well-being of the child(ren). My best friend has/had a very similar situation and she went through Herculean efforts to protect and make-up for years of neglect by her ex-husband, all the while never bashing him to their daughter. Over 10 years later her daughter is wonderful, she has a great relationship with her step-father, and her ex-husband, who will never thank her for efforts, enjoys an amazing relationship with his daughter (when it suits him).
Actions do speak louder than words, but in the end, the children just want to be loved by their parents. And in the absence of one’s efforts, if the other makes up for it then the payoff is huge. Parents like your mom and my friend just do not get enough credit.
Isn’t that the same dress Tori Spelling was wearing?
I was wondering the same thing!
He is so full of sh-t it is beyond belief!!
wow, what a mean person, trying to come across differently; seems he can’t help but be an ass.
What’s wrong with this guy? Is he just so cruel and vicious that he would say those things regarding his other children? Do they just not matter now that he has another child? It’s heartbreaking for his other children. If you ask me his other wives are better off.
He’s an a**. A terrible, disgusting excuse for a human being.
Oh Kelsey, so stupid. If you didn’t have $$$$ Kayte would not look twice. She’ll tell you anything to avoid a prenup.
he’s no real-life “Frasier”, thats for sure. he should have hired a writer or two before these interviews…..
His latest wife is a smart cookie. She goes straight to his weak points (his unsatisfiable need for romantic attention) and reeled him in. The baby was just the icing on the cake because what is more loving and lasting than creating life together? This young fertile woman wanted to have his babies, voluntaringly! Not that it would have taken her much trouble but this girl can hussle.
*eyeroll* Some men will never learn! He’s never going to change thus never going to find real satisfaction in love let alone in himself! He’s had so much personal trauma and instead of trying to find some peace and appreciate what he has, all he does is finding new women and suck the love out of them and their energy and then move on to his next victim all under the guise of “trying to find hapiness in his shit life”. Such a manipulative douche. Who can deal with a man like that? Pity the fool.
He even throws his poor children under the bus.
Hope that check in the end is worth it Kayte because you will be standing in a long line of “women who scorned the Grammer!” soon.
OMG – the wanting a baby VOLUNTARILY…..this alone deserves a huge paycheck and special award at the annual gold digger conference.
His previous wife had them by surrogacy so he was probably hugely flatterred that this one didn’t just want them, but was willing to carry them OMG..
*standing ovation here*
This is SUCH a weird guy. 🙁
He is such a mess. His poor kids.
This guy is a full-on nutjob – I’m just glad he’s not my dad. Though his kids are loaded with money, their dad is a douchebag which is sad.
Wow! What a horrible father! Unforgivable! Think it, your thoughts are private. Don’t flippin’ say it, and certainly don’t flippin’ say it during an interview. Douche!
Kayte is wearing the same maternity dress in these pictures as Tori Speling in your previous post. Coincidence? *g*
I can’t with this… guy. Sorry, just don’t feel right calling him a man.
I **might** get what he meant about it being different having kids with Kayte since Camille had a surrogate with their two children. But weren’t his first two kids born (for lack of a better word) naturally to his first and second wives?
He basically just said that to his kids: your mothers didn’t want you. They didn’t ‘want’ to have kids with me. That’s about as evil as you can get. I really don’t see how Camille using a surrogate because of medical issues means she wanted her kids any less. He’s just a jackass. Plain and simple.
One thing that I have to give him credit forbid that he doesn’t make these dolls sign a prenup. And he’s generous to the exes and the kids when he moves on to his next Mrs. I can’t say much more that’s nice
Its not that he is generous to the exes and kids, he HAS to hand over a crap load of money because a judge tells him he has to…if it was up to him they would probably be living in their car…this guy has no soul or heart…
Why do I have the impression he’ll end up getting all Mel Gibson on Kayte? Watch this end up as Mel Gibson/Oksana Part II.
I think none of us were involved in his marriages, so none of us know that whole story. If he’s happy, that’s great…and, that can make for being a better father and grandfather.
Delusional fool. That’s all.
He’s such a douche. My husband & I have known him since the beginning of Frasier and socialized a little with him and Camille when they were dating. He thought she was a goddess back then and spoke much the way about her as he does now about Kayte. I remember once in a restaurant how he was gazing adoringly at Camille and urging her to eat dessert, telling her she was perfect & wouldn’t gain an ounce, then later in the ladies room she told me that he always treated her much better in front of other people. I think he’s bi-polar and he is hugely, hugely into himself. Not anyone I would ever consider raising a family with.
Well, that doesn’t surprise me considering the pattern he has continued with his subsequent marriage. Doesn’t really speak well for Camille’s intentions though. You mentioned they were only dating when you had this conversation with her? So she decided to marry him anyway? You had the wherewithal to recognize he wasn’t father material, but she didn’t. Sounds like the call of celebrity and wealth was stronger than commonsense.
Definitely!
“Obviously I’ve been married and had children before, but this is the first time that a marvelous young woman has come into my life and said, ‘I’d love to be your wife and have your children.’”
There’s no fool like an old fool. His latest gold digger merely used a more direct approach than her predessors, and he falls for it hook, line and sinker.
He’s such a crappy father — remember when he only wanted custody of the son he fathered with Camille but not the daughter? — that he should’ve gotten a vasectomy years ago.
I hope this is the last woman he knocks up, but I doubt it.
Agree with your sentiment in general but just wanted to point out that both kids were carried by surrogate.
sex may not have happened between these 2 to create those kids.
We are truly in the future these days.
What a total asshat. Doesn’t he realize that his kids will read/see/hear this crap that he said? They’ll tell him to take a hike, then KG will be all “poor me, my kids have been alienated from me by my ex, blah blah…”
Then we can all tweet, post on FB, etc., the reminder of his idiotic interview as Exhibit #1 in the case of Kelsey’s kids hating his guts with good reason.
So, all these previous wives were supposed to be thrilled to have children with him when he was in and out of rehab? Yeah, cuz that’s what I look for in a father!
Every time Kelsey opens his mouth, something really stupid comes out. He’s just so hellbent on dissing his ex (or in this case, ex’s)… what an immature tool.
She’s gross. He’s even more gross.
Is he so narcissistic he makes his partner get plastic surgery to look like him? Or is there some crazy morphing super-sh*t going on??? Every time I see a picture of her she looks more and more like him. Weird.
Ha! Yes, she was a flight attendant, by looking at her behavior with Kelsey, makes me wonder how many other men she screwed that she met on flights. He is SUCH a douche bag.
Hi Camille.
Come on now. Camille has a freaking surrogate because she has IBS. I’ve seen comments from women who say IBS doesn’t stop a pregnancy. She didn’t want her body ruined so I believe she didn’t want kids with him. And I think his other kids were oops kids. He married the moms because he got them knocked up. They weren’t thrilled but got use to it because baby was coming.
I’m not saying Kelsey isn’t a big old slug. He is but I love me some Dr. Crane so I remember that. But I believe that Camille didn’t want those kids. She just wanted his money and to have work done.
His first child was born in early October, the year following his first marriage. That would indicate she was not pregnant at the time of marriage.
He fathered his second child with a women whom he never married.
Maybe you are right that many women with IBS have successful pregnancies. Maybe some do not.
Regardless of their circumstances, they agreed to have two children together via surrogate. The why and how are really none of your business.
I thought those days of accusing women who have never given birth of only caring about their figures were long gone.
i am speculating of course, but i have also watched RHOBH which i know is edited BUT based upon what we saw of Camille before the publicists were called in….i can believe that Vanity was a huge factor in the decision to use surrogates.
Shut up. Have you watched Real Housewives? Camille is very vain. That she didn’t want to lose her figure isn’t a difficult assumption.
He looks like the grandfather of tbe baby in those pictures.
I remember something about someone in his family committing suicide and maybe in an interview he said he had suffered from depression? Does anyone know anything about that. Someone mentioned something about problems he had in the past. What were they?
His parents divorced when he was very young. His father was shot and killed when Kelsey was in his early teens. His sister was abducted, raped and murdered. His twin half-brothers died in a scuba diving accident.
Yes, he has had a lot of tragedies for one person to bear. No excuse to inflict so much pain on those who loved him but, as they say, hurt people hurt people.
I’m surprised he was able to survive and function at all after all of that.
Damn his daughter looks pissed in that picture.Ugh he is such a d-bag.
He has four other children and none of their mothers wanted to have them with him? What?
Kelsey is a narcissist and petty, but so is Camille. She only came back on THOBH the second season to rehabilitate her image. She basically rarely talked. The true Camille was on season one and what a pretentious pile of …. she is. Coming on to any man, married or not, within arm’s length just for attention. Saying all women have always been jealous of her and that’s why she has only male friends. Bragging about having four nannies for two school-age children. ON and on. Don’t get me wrong. I like Camille fine, but I have a feeling she was a piece of work in the marriage.
She told Howard Stern they relationship was never about passion or sex and she stayed with him because she respected him. In other words, she was an MTV dancer going no where and she liked the life he offered. Nothing wrong with that if that’s what is important to her, but she wasn’t a long suffering wife all those years. She also told Howard two years before the breakup they discussed dating other people as a way to stay married for the kids. She said it just never happened, though. I do think what he finds refreshing with Kayte is she’s unpretentious.
I think the reasons Kelsey is so vicious is because Camille on the show and on Howard Stern has belittled his manhood in many ways. You know how men are. So now he hates her. No matter he humiliated her also. I guess that doesn’t count to him. But this was a broken marriage, anyway. She is coming out ridicuously wealthy and while she won’t have the cachet she had being with an A-lister, she can find a great man (maybe that one last season is the one.) And I think the show as she said was humbling, seeing how she appears to others. So maybe she has grown from everything.
The worst with Camille was when her mom with late stage cancer was with her and Camille makes it all about herself even still. I think viewing herself will make her a better person. Kelsey won’t change, though.
don’t forget the belittling of every one else’s spouses on the grounds that SHE was married to a FAMOUS ACTOR. Boy did she keep saying that…….
He is disgusting.
Awwwwww, he looks like such a proud grampy.
He’s awful and an idiot. Who the hell would be offended at him calling an English person English? Personally I find lumping us all together as British more offensive than saying which country we actually come from.
He has issues. I saw an episode of “Frasier” taped, and it was shocking how very needy Grammer is off-camera. His girlfriend at the time, Tammi Baliszewski, was right in front of us. At one point, he absolutely wailed her name…”TAAAAAMMMIIII.” It was just bizarre…he was like a big needy toddler. She ran over to him, and he calmed down. That’s always stuck with me because it was such an odd moment.
I don’t know him or any of his wives but I do know him as a brilliant comedic actor in Frasier and a brilliant straight actor in Boss. I’d go to see anything he was in.
Doubtless he has issues with his lovelife and harbours a lot of anger. Doubtless too he’s self absorbed as is every actor i’ve ever known.
I wish him every happiness with his new family and hope the happiness mellows his anger. I think it’s mean to suggest he’s just going to move onto a younger model in a few years time. I see no reason why he should.
I wouldn’t want to marry him but I wouldn’t want to marry anyone in showbiz. It is not known as a career that attracts the selfless and stable.
Good luck to you, Kelsey.
Oh no. The baby his his head.
Wow Kelsey. Just, WOW. Well, in honor of your new and exciting British family, let me just say this: you’re a complete wanker. You can ask your wordly wife what that means.
Wow! Let me translate this for you thick headed chicks…Kelsey feels like everyone before his presnet wife only wanted the fame and fortune of Kelsey not the actual Kelsey person.
And from what we saw on “Housewives” Camille purchased her babies so she wouldn’t have to actually experience motherhood. Cheesey? Pretty much. Camilles calls out,”Poolboy, oh poolboy!”
I really like him and I bet she’s as great as he says she is. I’m married to a Brit and know lots of them – they’re more interesting than NAmericans are. Kelsey’s not the first NAmerican to notice that.