In news that will come as no real surprise to anyone who watched the systematic Dita-fication of Evan Rachel Wood, Marilyn Manson has never quite been able to get over his ex-wife. And it’s not just the longing that has stayed strong over the year since their divorce, there are still some pretty strong feelings about who got custody of the dog, too.
Marilyn Manson “still pines” for Dita Von Teese.
The goth rocker hasn’t recovered from the 2006 breakdown of his marriage to the burlesque performer, despite subsequently dating 21-year-old actress Evan Rachel Wood.
Manson – who is now said to be romancing 24-year-old model and photographer Isani Griffith – was overheard speaking about Dita at his first solo art exhibition, which includes a watercolour painting of his ex-wife.
One guest at the Art Basel Miami Beach exhibition revealed to the New York Daily News newspaper: “Marilyn was saying he ‘still pines for Dita’ but is ‘extremely angry that she took the dog’.”
[From Female First]
The exhibit also included three watercolors of his current “special lady friend”, as Manson referred to Isani Griffith. Not surprisingly, Griffith has pale skin, dark hair, and blood red lipstick. She could have passed for Manson’s little sister that night, truth be told.
Manson didn’t refer to Isani as his new girlfriend, per se, instead saying, “I really don’t want to start the next chapter of my life by burdening someone with being the solution to my problems.”
I’m betting Evan Rachel Wood wishes he would have had that kind of deep insight and regard for others before dragging her into the last chapter of his life. Besides only being 24, Isani isn’t Dita, and therefore isn’t going to be the solution to any problems Manson has. Dita herself couldn’t even solve those issues.
Manson is shown in the header on 5/23/07 and with Von Teese below on 5/21/06. Credit: WENN
How does he get ANY woman interested in him? He is ugly. He is untalented. He is clearly a weirdo. There is nothing appealing about him on any level whatsoever.
It disgusts me to think that any woman would spend 5 minutes with him, much less … do anything else with him.
He looks like the corpse of an eccentric tall old lady, about a year on.
Which painting is of Dita – the body sliced in half with two extra carved orifices? yiccccchhhhhh?
I know this is against the general opinion, but I think he really was in love with Evan Rachen, even if he had some issues about his marriage to solve. But whatever had really happened, Evan Rachel has a brillant future in front of her without him, and I see her like the “winner” of this story. She is young, intelligent, talented and has lots of class. And, sorry, but in comparison Dita is boring, I’ve never heard anything interesant coming from her lips, it’s all about the lipstick.
OK. Dita von Teese is getting a little annoying now. She has a nice body. So what?
What has she done recently?
Oh, and Manson’s dating a model now? What a f-ing shocker. God forbid see him dating someone who wasn’t a clone, you know, like he bitches about all the time.
But you know, he’s so deep.
He ain’t the only one, buddy.
Brian’s actually bright, her’s been on talk shows like Politically Incorrect talking about censorship and was very informed. He’s also passionate about his music and is the first to admit that all these trappings are for show. MM the persona has pretty much consumed Brian’s life, however.
I like Manson … ofc im a “goth” and let me say, in our own little Sub-culture, we all look like that, so if your mind, there are thousands of Dita clones. Just because we dont fake bake, spend millions on plastic surgery and give a fuck what people think doesnt mean we’re clones of someone. We dress and act how we want, not how Vogue tells us we should.
He is a very illegent individual guys. I think thats whats in his favor.
I’m not sure I’ve ever heard an entire Marilyn Manson song, but I like the guy, partly because of the interviews you mentioned, dante.
Lauri… you do realize that it’s all just makeup and a contact, right? Like, it comes off. He takes it off before he goes to sleep and such?
“I like Manson … ofc im a “goth” and let me say, in our own little Sub-culture, we all look like that, so if your mind, there are thousands of Dita clones. Just because we dont fake bake, spend millions on plastic surgery and give a fuck what people think doesnt mean we’re clones of someone. We dress and act how we want, not how Vogue tells us we should.”
But, if as you say “we all look like that”, isn’t that kind of the same thing as being fake-baked and nipped/tucked because Vogue says everyone else is doing it? Being a “clone” is the same thing regardless of WHO tells you to dress/act a certain way.
That isn’t a rail against Goth subculture, by the way. I’m part of my own subculture (new burlesque) and frankly I don’t give a damn HOW people dress– I may think a certain look is unflattering, but I’m not going to rip people’s wigs off because of it. Everyone has the right to look how they want, period, and that even goes for the fake-baked. That subculture is no less valid than Goth, burlesque, rockabilly, or 1000 other cultures that are out there.
Agree, V. Though I’m not personally attracted to Manson, I would rather date someone smart, weird and interesting than some frat boy douche that looks like Paul Walker.
Um, how does being “goth” make you more of an individual than other people when you all dress and look alike?
Actually, people mention Dita clones but if you see pictures of Manson’s girlfriend Missy before he was big you definitely see what his type is/where it comes from. She was very pretty, black hair, dark lips. You can see a pic of her or two in his book ‘The Long Hard Road Out of Hell’ – it’s a fun read too.
Abby: Um, how does being “goth” make you more of an individual than other people when you all dress and look alike?
That’s odd, I feel the same way walking around the mall on any given shopping day, especially around the American Eagle Outlet. Speaking of which, are there any black people working in those stores? Ever?
Abby and Dante, you left out too that they all dance the same. Like they’re sweeping the floor with their sleeves, Exibit A: Temple of Love by Sisters of Mercy. It’s as though they’re all doing upside-down Tai-Chi. Well, whatever floats your boat across the river Styx I suppose…
Again Baholicious, I feel the same way about the way they dance at the ‘normal’ dance club scene, they are either f*ck*ng with their clothes on while standing up, picking up invisible loose change off the floor, or having a seizure.
What really annoys me are the new drinkers on a dance floor, and that’s at ANY club. You can always pick them out because they can’t be bothered to set their drinks down to dance. Anyone who’s been clipped by a beer bottles in some 21 newbs hand can understand my grievance.
Loose change! LOL. Right on. For the bus fare home to the ‘burbs…
Agree with kaiser. I can’t really say I enjoy his look, but he’s smart and interesting. I’m not really a fan of his music (not my fave genre)but I would love to spend a day talking politics and life with him!
While I have not seen any interviews with him, and I do not doubt what some of you guys have said about him being intelligent…I still have hard time thinking it possible that anyone who chooses to look the way he does as intelligent. I mean, come on…going out of your way to look as hideously ugly as possible is just stupid, IMHO.
dita is gorgeous…love her.
New burlesque? Jesus, I’m so out of touch. When I was young enough to care about belonging to a “subculture” we only had four choices: stoners, jocks, nerds, and toward the end of my senior year when Phish caught on in the burbs: faux hippies. Granted, there were variations of each group (goths fell under the stoner category, for example), but it was still fairly simple.
Lauri, Brian doesn’t ‘exist’ anymore realistically, he’s become Manson 24/7. Without the persona, he’s nobody.
lauri – have you seen his mugshot? the makeup’s an improvement.
look, no one’s saying mainstream culture isn’t clonish. but when there’s a very definite aesthetic to any scene it’s the same way. i feel out of place at a goth club even though there are a lot of things i like about the scene because i don’t look the part. and seven – there’s a difference between liking goth chicks and liking goth chicks with EXACTLY the same hair, and makeup, and quirky unusual taste in clothes. that’s not liking pale girls, it’s failing to get over your ex.
MM is certainly no looker, but I think anyone with a contemplative mentality would be attracted to him. I’d love to sit down with him and pick his brain – he is far more intelligent than people give him credit for, largely because of how he choses to express himself (which was revolutionary ten years ago, but admittedly a bit cliched today).
It’s really fascinating how pervasive the Hollywood Schema/”Beautiful is Best” mentality is when reading some of these posts. If you don’t look a certain way, you’re obviously lacking as a human being and therefore unworthy of being loved. MM may have his own trust/relationship issues, but I highly doubt they manifest themselves in his pancake makeup and eyeliner.
I just think MM is a weenie. I did, however, LOVE his remake of Tainetd Love and the video he did for it… THAT was GREAT. I just can’t be attracted to a guy who wears more make up than I do… and also i could totally kick MM’s ass with both hands tied behind my back. Not that the douchebag-frat-boy type does anything for me, either. It’s hard for me to imagine having any FUN with MM… he seems like he’d be all whiny and broody and emo.
I would miss her, too. Dita is absolutely stunning in person. The photos don’t do her justice. And it’s not all the lighting, etc. Face to face, she’s sweet and thoughtful. She was reading “The Case Against God” (or something) when I met her.
Would you like to wake up in the morning, roll over and see THAT?
The man has a pathetic need for attention. Good for Dita. She has everything going for her. He is a loser.
All goth people look the same and look scary and people look at them and judge them so harshly. They are hardly the type you want to take home to mom. But Dita does not look like them, she is gorgeous and classy and hot. I see why he pines over her. She probably didn’t even realize what she was doing with him, she should get a regular person
to vdantev
yes actually the american eagle at my mall has a few black people working at it, and i live in white surburbia..so go figure. just thought i would let you know. =]
If you are an individual, then you are an individual. It does not matter how you dress or what make up you put on or what fashion mags you read. Dressing like a goth does not make you more individual and if you think it does, you are wrong! If you really were individual you would just buy the clothes that YOU like, regardless of their color or if they are featured in vogue or not! Perhaps in the olden days the very first goth was being an individual but nowadays there are so many goths that it is no longer original!
Anyway, manson is ugly. Not because he is a goth just cos he is! Look at his face!! His nose!! Eww. But I agree that he is intelligent.
There is a certain beauty to the film-noir-like starkly contrasted glamour that Dita embodies. Life would be so dull if we were all the same 😕
Anna, I’ll have you know, that I dress pretty goth…and I don’t look like Dita von Teese/Evan Rachel Wood. While I may not look like a Burlesque dancer, and shallow goth boys wouldn’t touch me with a ten foot pole, I take a lot of pride in my personal style. Diversity rules.
Just because I commented on the monotony of the women Manson only chooses to sleep with doesn’t mean that I look like a stereotypical generic girl. Just because I harbor a strong dislike of Manson doesn’t mean that I’m a stuck up “prep”, and trust me, next to the musicians I listen to, Manson is Fall Out Boy.
Also: Last time I checked, Dita von Teese starves herself just to look good in a corset, so apparently she does feel the need to conform to a standard, and therefore DOES give a f-k what people think.
If you’re going to be vain, that’s cool. I mean, I put a lot of time and effort into my own appearance as well, and I find nothing wrong with that since it’s my own business…but to praise a woman who openly doesn’t eat days at a time for the sake of vanity and then turn around and criticize other women for it just because they’re not placing that effort on the same standard is pretty hypocritical, in my opinion.
In any social culture, the wrong message is “be yourself, as long as it looks good”.