Surprisingly enough, Chelsea Handler wasn’t just name-dropping and hating on Angelina Jolie during her appearance on Watch What Happens Live two nights ago. In between snarling about Angelina Jolie’s “demon” ways (eye-roll), Chelsea also analyzed the Taylor Swift situation. It’s gotten to the point where if Chelsea says black, I’ll say white. So obviously, I completely disagree with Chelsea’s assessment of the Swifty situation. Not only that, I think Chelsea’s assessment is insulting to women and it plays into Tay-Tay’s now-legitimate-seeming whines about sexism and the media.
It’s a tough week to be Taylor Swift. After Golden Globes co-hosts Tina Fey and Amy Poehler gently mocked the singer’s surprisingly serious reaction to their joke about her love life, Chelsea Handler added her two cents during a March 5 appearance on Bravo’s Watch What Happens Live.
In the April issue of Vanity Fair, 23-year-old Swift recited a quote Katie Couric once shared with her when asked how she deals with “mean girls” in Hollywood: “There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help other women.”
Handler, who is friends with Couric, addressed the controversy when Andy Cohen asked her to weigh in. “I think that was a bold statement, but I’m not on anyone’s side because I just don’t care enough,” the 38-year-old Chelsea Lately host said. “I like that she’s being that vociferous about something that she thinks they were out to get her. They were clearly making a joke just about her demeanor, which is embarrassing. I mean, she’s just dated so many men.”
Swift — whose famous exes include Conor Kennedy, Jake Gyllenhaal, John Mayer, Cory Monteith, Joe Jonas and Taylor Lautner — is currently single after splitting with One Direction’s Harry Styles in January. Handler speculated exactly why the country music superstar doesn’t have long-term relationships.
“My theory about Taylor Swift is that she’s a virgin, that everyone breaks up with her because they date her for two weeks and she’s like, ‘I’m not gonna do it.’ And they’re like, ‘Oh, well, forget it. Then I don’t want to date you,'” Handler imagined. “Every guy thinks they’re going to devirginize her, and they’re not. She’s never going to get devirginized, ever, ever, ever, ever.”
“They were clearly making a joke just about her demeanor, which is embarrassing. I mean, she’s just dated so many men.” The fact that Taylor has “dated” so many men is NOT what’s embarrassing. That is the kind of slut-shaming attitude which Taylor herself employs, in fact. What’s embarrassing is that Taylor projects (and profits from) an image of perpetual, innocent, glitter-soaked, untouched, lovelorn girlhood while being a completely normal 20-something young woman who dates around and has an active and completely healthy sex life. The only thing this proves to me is that Taylor and Chelsea think alike – sex is not an end unto itself. Sex (or the withholding of sex) is a means to an end. For Chelsea, sex (with her then-married boss) got her an E! show. For Taylor, the image of the perpetual virgin withholding sex is how she makes her money.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Ugh. Can’t stand either of them.
“…she’s just dated so many men.”
that’s the pot calling the kettle black.
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Exactly.
+1
Lest we forget, Chelsea got pregnant as a teenager…
And was in fact a complete h0eb@g and wrote a book basically bragging about being such.
Or if you believe the gossip: the beard calling the goatee hairy.
Joan Rivers took care of this BCH! Isn’t she besties with Charlize? 0-o
She makes me nauseous…and I’m no Swift fan.
The helping hand of women towards women was evident with Couric in that famous Sarah Palin interview.
Oh no, how dare a journalist ask another woman legitimate, fair questions. Oh the horror.
And, also in Palin and her supporters in not wanting to allow other women to legally retain the choice to decide major issues for their own lives, such as motherhood or birth control.
You don’t get to play that card, Sweetie, when referring to Sarah Palin–just sorry, but no.
I am a very ardent Palin supporter and I think that question was more than fair. I don’t particularly like Couric but she would have asked anyone that question. Palin fumbled it. The problem with that whole situation was how it was handled later. People treated it as a make or break when most liberal politicians would have been given a pass. ALL politicians fumble like this. I don’t think that it’s Couric’s fault that people ran wild with it.
And no, a woman can still support other women without advocating that women can kill their soon to be born children. We are more than just uteri/incubators. Women aren’t just a bundle of reproductive capability.
I think TS is just young and has made a mistake in making all of this info for public consumption (writing songs, etc.) Has she really dated “so many men”? That’s insane. Chelsea Handler is such a hypocrite.
Girl
I also don’t like couric, but she asked that to palin because palin opened that door and built a foundation on it. That’s why the fumble became such a huge thing. This is a can or worms issue and palin only gives it lip service to attract supporters. She’s a “don’t look behind the curtain” politicians and to be fair most are the same.
Why are people still talking about Sarah Palin? She’s sooo 2008. I was never a fan, but I couldn’t understand the hatred toward her, either.
Also, I am still trying to figure out how Palin or any other Republicans are trying to “stop” women from using birth control. Are members of the RNC standing in the aisles at CVS or Walgreens stopping you from buying condoms or something?
@ MST- The RNC attempts to stop women from having access to birth control by fighting to keep BC from continuing to be covered by insurance as a important part of women’s health. (even though adult women are already paying their premiums) Keep in mind, that BC is more than just contraception and many people can only use them. Birth control pills are expensive-about $100 out of pocket, so by attacking their affordability, they are attacking access. For the record, they aren’t big fans of condoms either.
In several states (eg Colorado) they have tried to pass measures banning all oral contraceptives.
The RNC has repeatedly said they are anti-choice and want to stop women from having access to birth control. Esp in poorer states/counties.
You actually like Palin and TELL people?
Can I be honest?
I just don’t understand why go after BC (by taking it off health insurance) AND that it costs so damn much.
When I was in the UK, BC was for free. I went back to the Middle East, and BC is either free under health insurance or you can buy it as prescription for $5 with no health insurance. Why on earth is it so damn expensive in the States? WHY!!!
Fine you don’t want to cover it, fair enough, but don’t inflate the price to $100 where you can get it in other countries WITHOUT insurance for as little as $5. Seriously.
I cannot stand Chelsea Handler. Her picture should be in the dictionary under c-u next Tuesday.
I’m surprised she didn’t shank her for picking up one of Aniston’s castoffs in John Mayer.
Ha. Didn’t even think of that. Chelsea must really want an invitation to JustJen’s wedding. What does it say about Aniston that: 1) she dated douchebag Mayer and 2) she is good friends with Handler??
OK, Swifty irritates me for much the same reason as she does you, Kaiser, but CH is poison refined, distilled and shaped to resemble a human being. She’s not remotely funny, she’s just vile.
+1
Yeah, I especially hate that Handler (and Joan Rivers, and I’m sure others as well) and her “jokes” are taking up valuable time that could be spent mocking Swifty for legit reasons: her borderline stalking behaviour, her utter humorless ness, her crazy fanbase, her terrible music….
So who is worse Chelsea or Taylor?
Chelsea, I think. Tay-Tay is just insulting, Chelsea is actually a disgusting human being.
I actually think Taylor is much worse. Chelsea does not hide the fact that she is a vile piece of excrement where Taylor does…Taylor has no problem ripping apart women if she feels they are intruding on her territory or boys who don’t play along with her PR games…..all while she hides behind this fake sweet virginal image.
Oh, please. We know damn well that Swifty ain’t no virgin. I did laugh at the “ever, ever, ever” thing though.
Yeah right?
A virgin who escaped John Mayer?
Maybe he scared her with the peen. Or he laughed at her being a virgin and broke her heart. It could be, because she was 19.
I honestly do think she might be. Her approach to love is very innocent and chaste. You have her music as proof. She’s a late bloomer.
If you want to use her music as proof she’s definitely not. She’s a ‘new notch’ in someone’s belt.
Yeah it could possibly be like that though i highly doubt that they used to spend their time just strumming each others guitar lol.
There was a blind item that he got her pregnant and she aborted right? Would have been at d.listed
Um, no. Apparently, part of the heartbreak was due to him knocking her up and leaving her. She had to terminate a pregnancy.
Folks believing Chelsea on this young woman being an ‘innocent’ or a virgin are naive.
Screw y’all for putting any images of Taylor sexing in my head.
Just. No.
I don’t buy that chelsea handler is 38. 48 would be a better call.
Agree +1
LOL
Exactly what I thought when I read the article. After that, I couldn’t pay attention to anything else because, well, “I just don’t care enough.”
Nup, I am 50 and been in the sun my entire life – she is older than me.
Chelsea f*cked her way into getting her own show. She’s so disgusting.
If Swift and Handler are the examples it’s a tough week for girl’s girls.
+1 to all the above comments; I couldn’t agree more
What does a virgin do with newly installed bolt-ons?
Exactly.
Well, I’d never leave the house. Then again, I’m a guy.
Wow she went there. Seriously, many people have thought about this before but have never said anything publicly. She went too far. It’s just none of her business AT ALL. And even if she doesn’t feel ready to do it or wants to wait for the right guy, it’s her own damn right. IMO, girls these days just don’t even consider waiting because they’re peer pressured so much, or shamed if they’re virgins after a certain age. In the end you are the one who enjoys and has to live with your own sexual experiences, so giving explanations to people or doing what you’re told to do is pointless.
And a woman her age should know better. I feel like there’s just not a woman she approves of. Women like her even criticize her own friends behind their backs.
+1! Virginity is not a crime or something to be ashamed of. And if a woman does not want to be “devirginized”, she had the right to say no.
I doubt if any of this applies to Taylor Swift, but this whole culture that has made sexual experience the be all and end all of what women are is insulting to all women.
I can not stand this woman. She is a drunk, druggie, and bully.
She claims she is all about being a girl’s girl, but all she ever does is throw insults at women.
She stopped being funny a long time ago. Being BFF with Jennifer Aniston is the only reason she gets any attention or when she bashes Angelina Jolie.
She actually does Jennifer Aniston a disservice by constantly bashing Angelina. It makes it seem like she is doing Jen’s dirty work for her. Jen seems very happy now so why make things worse for your friend?
Also, remember how she got her start to begin with and how she got her show.
On her back!
I don’t understand why we put so much value on how much sex a woman is or isn’t having. Taylor is a huge pain in the ass weather or not she is doing those guys she dates and defames. And Chelsea handler is probably the worst person on tv. I can’t stand her.
I’d be embarrassed to be 38 (cough) and shaming some 20 year old girl for basically saying she didn’t have a permenant boyfriend because she didn’t put out in two weeks. What a lovely message.
I used to really like Chelsea Handler – when I was in college her show was actually really funny. She ripped on everyone in Hollywood equally, had no qualms about saying outright that pretty much everything about show business is stupid, including her own show, and was actually quick and witty with her guests and other comics on the round table(the best was when the regulars would be on and they would just riff back and forth and play off of each other, hysterical).
Now she’s a fucking monster with no redeeming qualities- she’s not even genuinely funny anymore, she just says terrible things about the same people to get headlines. Gross.
I can’t stand CH. Her behavior shows how she’s a straight bitch and makes me realize why I don’t hang out with a bunch of women and prefer to be a loner.
Ugh, who cares how many people Swift may or may not have dated or slept with? The issue, which Handler as usual misses, is that Swift is whining about people commenting on her personal life when she puts those relationships (or “relationships”) out there as a career move.
Umm maybe I read a different article but Taylor was not whining about people commenting about her personal life. She was talking about the liberties they take when doing so by lying or exaggerating things going on in her personal life.
I’m actually a Taylor fan and the same age has her but she has been a PR disaster lately and I’m actually becoming very tired of her and her persona, she needs to go away for a while because there has been a big backlash against her in the past few months.
On another note, I saw Taylor in concert in Dublin two years ago and couldn’t get over how provocative and sexualised her performance was. It was the first time that I really realised that she puts on such a childish act when she isn’t one at all and I would have more respect for her if she acted her own age and owned her grownup self instead of acting like she’s still sixteen and dating a Jonas.
I was thinking the same thing yesterday about her needing new PR, as well as about her needing to fade quietly into the background for a while.
Either her PR sucks, or she is uncontrollable. No matter how upset that joke might have made her, she should have pretended it didn’t bother her at all and laughed it off. Now she’s just made herself look even worse and is going to ruin her career (if she hasn’t already).
Step-back Taylor. Let us forget about you for a while. Get some new PR people. Then come back in a year or so with a revamped image and some more maturity.
She has a world tour starting in a week or something. In some world I think her PR team thinks this is helping promote that.
Oh good grief. If they really think that, they are totally off-base. She is making herself look worse and worse.
Whats up with the procovative performance? Tell me more..
@ Danielle, I loved your comment because it sounds fair. I like Taylor and I wish that she changed her act so we can all love her again.
Chelsea is disgusting!! Not only that, she is playing right into Taylor’s hand. Now Taylor’s fans can point to this as a legitimate example of how the media and Hollywood are ganging up on their girl. There would be nothing wrong if Taylor were still a virgin, but come on! Does anyone who isn’t an idiot believe Taylor isn’t sexually active? It’s ridiculous and stupid of Chelsea to even insinuate that the reason why these guys break up with her after a few weeks is because she won’t give it up. It’s really insulting, actually. Chelsea probably thinks she’s on the same level of comedic genius as Tina and Amy, but she has sunk lower than I could have imagined. I’m not a Taylor fan and was enjoying Tina and Amy’s response to the Vanity Fair interview until Chelsea had to open her big mouth. Also, absolutely agree that both Chelsea and Taylor have used sex to build their careers in entertainment. They are both setting women back with their behavior and comments.
Lol who hasn’t used sex? Taylor, Chelsea, Rihanna, beyonce, Katy perry, Miley Cyrus, Selena, etc, tc, etc they all use sex to build heir careers. Taylor’s just the most annoying about it. Adele may be the only one who hasn’t.
Okay, forget KStew/TSwift, THIS is the celebrity death match I want to see.
Money’s on Chelsea, despite not knowing what the bunny-boiler is capable of.
What’s this about women not supporting women? Is this how it is now? If I don’t share your opinions, it’s not because you’re a woman or man. Anyway, both are insufferable but I’ll take Swift as the lesser evil thank you. Is it true the E boss was married when Chelsea slept with him? Well, then I dunno what she’s doing calling AJ names.
I was with her for ““I like that she’s being that vociferous about something that she thinks they were out to get her. They were clearly making a joke just about her demeanor, which is embarrassing.”
And then she started slut shaming. Sigh. The problem isn’t that Taylor dates alot of guys. The problem is she has no sense of humor.
Meh..
Their respective takes on this little Taylor firestorm sum up why Tina Fey and Amy Poehler are awesome, well regarded, versatile comedic talents and Chelsea Handler is not.
I agree. I’m more than what’s between my legs (sorry if I sound vulgar).
My daughter is getting married in June and she and her fiance have decided to wait. They aren’t weirdos or maladjusted or anything; both are devout Christians (more devout than I am, I’m afraid). Why is the choice to wait to be sexually active seen as abnormal in our society? I don’t understand.
I think it has to do with the fact that it is a generalization that you are super religious (any religion) if you do wait before marriage. Also add in that a lot of abstinent people (again religious) are really judgemental and holier than thou about it.
I don’t know. I’m eighteen and a virgin (which is rare where I live), mainly because I don’t want to sleep with a BOY who has no clue what he’s doing, and I don’t feel good enough about myself to let someone else see me naked. But that’s just me. I’m also not really all that interested in sex or having a boyfriend…maybe that’ll change when I get into my twenties.
But I think the main reason people act like it’s a horrible thing because of hypocrisy of people on both sides. Especially for girls. You can’t play the field (not even date around, let alone let them lay a finger on you) without being called a slut by some hyper conservative, and vice versa. Same with boys. They get told that they don’t need to make babies, yet are teased if they are still virgins at 16. This happened to my twin brother. He was a virgin at 16 and my older cousins were laughing at him, telling him that he needed to go get laid. Yet they turn around and tell me not to mess around with little boys…..sigh.
I know they want the best for me, but it gets a little tiring. I think they’re harder on me because except for two of my female cousins, all the rest of my female cousins have had babies when they were legally old enough to get pregnant (and a few before), only two of them have gotten married to/or are still with the father of their child. Same thing with some of my male cousins.
It’s not really the norm of our society, but I know people who have waited, too. Also, anyone notice how Chelsea has morphed into Jen Anitston? She has a square jaw just like her buddy.
Sorry MST but only an idiot would marry someone before sleeping with them. Sex is very important in a marriage,in a healthy marriage anyway, and if your new son in law likes to do things that she doesn’tlike to do they should find out BEFORE THE WEDDING.Super religious people are just nuts.
I agree, but I’m wondering if the daughter is being honest with mommy about this. I don’t care if anyone does or doesn’t do it, but how does this come up in conversation with your adult kid?
I agree,I mean it’s just odd,I’ve only had sex with my husband but we were together for 4 years before the wedding so of course we did not wait.
I don’t really see how you have the right to judge these people and call them idiots. Considering most people have sex before marriage and the divorce rate is 50% I don’t think sex before marriage is the magic glue that holds people together. It’s complicated and none of us have the right answer. Since they aren’t forcing you to wait no need to be rude and call them stupid.
Coming from a religious society (to my dismay), I’ve found that sex is important to a marriage. People who haven’t slept with their spouses before marriage are more likely than not dissatisfied later on. Again you have to reconsider that religious folks are not necessarily going to go get a divorce soon as possible, and certainly not on ‘I’m not satisfied with our sex life’.
Anyway, I for one don’t necessarily care about a woman’s virginity or not. But living in a patriarchal society unfortunately means you have to stay hushed about your sex life or pretend to be a virgin. Heavens forbid you are known to be a non-virgin. Ironic because most girls I know are not virgins but definitely pretend to be.
I guess you can say I don’t have a lot of sympathy for girls who feel ‘persecuted’ for being virgins. I think it is either to feel bad about being a virgin than not.
But I will say this, for me, if I’m planning to marry someone, on a physical level we have to be a match. I don’t think I can be with someone if I don’t feel natural sexually and intimately with them.
Well Taylor’s vanity fair quote really would pertain to women like Chelsea Handler wouldn’t it. There is a place in hell for women like her. She’s vile, offensive and disgusting.
This from a woman who wrote a book about all them she has slept with herself- and there were a LOT.
I suspect the joke, at Taylor’s expense, probably would not hurt her so bad. Had Taylor not lost that Golden Globe to Adele at the same time.
Image you are sitting in that room, thinking you are going home with that best song from a movie award. And lost. With a camera in your face.
Taylor is use to winning. And everyone has seen that gif her of face when she lost. It was not pretty.
Then to add to her butt hurt of losing to Adele. She is then publicly shamed for “dating” too many men. On live TV.
Add to it Michael J. Fox takes a hit at her too. Whose own son is the same age of Taylor.
So our pretty princess took three bad hits, in a short time period.
And it looks as if she did a interview for Vanity Fair… right as all this happen.
Taylor ran her mouth. When she should have just whined to her Mother about it. And then let it go.
So I agree. It is time for Taylor to stop talking. Take a vacation. And let the media pick a new girl to shame for their amusement.
Does she even have any parents around?
I like that Handler laughs at herself. She’s no hypocrit. And she is funny a lot of the time. Stylish she is not, but I don’t get why she’s so hated by so many. She can be gruff at times, but so can we all –– judging from these comments. She just doesn’t play the demure wholesome kitten that society expects her to play. Get over it.
Chelsea is the biggest hypocrite around talking about being a girl’s girl AMD going around calling AJ names just because she is now bff with Jennifer Aniston and had to sleep with her boss to get her position at E. She only stopped attacking Anion because she shares a publicist with her and they like to gety drunk together on expensive vacations. She can have several seats.
ITA Lucy.
I have no major issue with Chelsea. She does the same things male comedians get away with all the time, but god forbid a woman go there.
I think she’s a hypocrite, but she openly admits to being a hypocrite, so whatever. I’m not some huge Angelina hater either, nor do I hate Jen. I actually like all 3 and think they are oddly compatible…
+1 lucy I can’t believe that I am defending Chealsea I am not even a fan,But I love that she gets to say what alot of us are thinking.Frankly I have thought Taylor Swift to be a major c -tease and that is why she can’t keep a man more than 5 weeks.They all want to touch her new fake bolt ons and she won’t let them.And from the comments I read on this site alot of people hate Taylor so what is the big deal.
Spot the f*ck on Kaiser to everything you said in your article above.